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1. 07:03 AM - Elevator Rib, holes in crimps (Perry Delano)
2. 08:03 AM - Re: Elevator Rib, holes in crimps (Carlos Sa)
3. 08:37 AM - Re: Elevator Rib, holes in crimps (Tommy Walker)
4. 09:04 AM - Re: Elevator Rib, holes in crimps (pdelano@telus.net)
5. 09:08 AM - Re: Elevator Rib, holes in crimps (JohnDRead@aol.com)
6. 09:44 AM - Re: Elevator Rib, holes in crimps (JohnDRead@aol.com)
7. 12:10 PM - Re: Elevator Rib, holes in crimps (pdelano@telus.net)
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| Subject: | Elevator Rib, holes in crimps |
Hi All,
When drilling for the elevator skin along the spar I forgot to mark that
there was a crimp in line with the spar and continued to drill right out to
the middle of the flange on the Elevator Tip Ribs, 7h1-5. On the top and
bottom I have holes on the edge or into this crimp, see attached photos
(these were the worst of the 4 holes and are on the bottom). I email Caleb
and hope to get an answer from him. Has anyone else done this? If so, did
you order new tip ribs or just move away from the crimp and put a new hole
respecting edge distance minimums. Is there a minimum distance from a crimp?
Regards,
Perry
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| Subject: | Re: Elevator Rib, holes in crimps |
Perry, I suspect you will have to replace the part.
I don't remember whether that happened to me, but if it did, since I am
building from plans, I just made another part and threw the old one away.
You might want to consider making new parts to replace damaged ones,
instead of ordering them. For one thing, it's much cheaper, and there are
no mail delays...
Good luck
Carlos
(CH601-HD, plans)
On 26 April 2012 10:01, Perry Delano <pdelano@telus.net> wrote:
> Hi All,****
>
> ** **
>
> When drilling for the elevator skin along the spar I forgot to mark that
> there was a crimp in line with the spar and continued to drill right out to
> the middle of the flange on the Elevator Tip Ribs, 7h1-5. On the top and
> bottom I have holes on the edge or into this crimp, see attached photos
> (these were the worst of the 4 holes and are on the bottom). I email Caleb
> and hope to get an answer from him. Has anyone else done this? If so, did
> you order new tip ribs or just move away from the crimp and put a new hole
> respecting edge distance minimums. Is there a minimum distance from a crimp?
> ****
>
> ** **
>
> Regards,****
>
> ** **
>
> Perry****
>
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| Subject: | Re: Elevator Rib, holes in crimps |
I would remove the crimp and put another crimp just to the side. I've
never heard of edge distance from a crimp.
Tommy Walker
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 9:01 AM, Perry Delano <pdelano@telus.net> wrote:
> Hi All,****
>
> ** **
>
> When drilling for the elevator skin along the spar I forgot to mark that
> there was a crimp in line with the spar and continued to drill right out to
> the middle of the flange on the Elevator Tip Ribs, 7h1-5. On the top and
> bottom I have holes on the edge or into this crimp, see attached photos
> (these were the worst of the 4 holes and are on the bottom). I email Caleb
> and hope to get an answer from him. Has anyone else done this? If so, did
> you order new tip ribs or just move away from the crimp and put a new hole
> respecting edge distance minimums. Is there a minimum distance from a crimp?
> ****
>
> ** **
>
> Regards,****
>
> ** **
>
> Perry****
>
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| Subject: | Re: Elevator Rib, holes in crimps |
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| Subject: | Re: Elevator Rib, holes in crimps |
Hi Perry,
The construction standards that you should have on the
Zenith disk that you should have is specific that surfaces MUST contact fully
at all rivet locations or words to that effect. I expect that Caleb will
tell you to re drill the holes that overlap the crimps 10mm away from the
offending hole. Caleb may have a good solution as to how to fill the offending
holes too
Regards, John
CH701 - Colorado - Jabiru 3300
Cell: 719-494-4567
Home: 303-648-3261
In a message dated 4/26/2012 8:29:56 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
pdelano@telus.net writes:
Hi All,
When drilling for the elevator skin along the spar I forgot to mark that
there was a crimp in line with the spar and continued to drill right out to
the middle of the flange on the Elevator Tip Ribs, 7h1-5. On the top and
bottom I have holes on the edge or into this crimp, see attached photos
(these were the worst of the 4 holes and are on the bottom). I email Caleb and
hope to get an answer from him. Has anyone else done this? If so, did you
order new tip ribs or just move away from the crimp and put a new hole
respecting edge distance minimums. Is there a minimum distance from a crimp?
Regards,
Perry
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| Subject: | Re: Elevator Rib, holes in crimps |
Good solution, just make sure that the mating surface contact fully.
Regards, John
CH701 - Colorado - Jabiru 3300
Cell: 719-494-4567
Home: 303-648-3261
In a message dated 4/26/2012 10:40:14 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time,
twalker@cableone.net writes:
I would remove the crimp and put another crimp just to the side. I've
never heard of edge distance from a crimp.
Tommy Walker
On Thu, Apr 26, 2012 at 9:01 AM, Perry Delano <_pdelano@telus.net_
(mailto:pdelano@telus.net) > wrote:
Hi All,
When drilling for the elevator skin along the spar I forgot to mark that
there was a crimp in line with the spar and continued to drill right out to
the middle of the flange on the Elevator Tip Ribs, 7h1-5. On the top and
bottom I have holes on the edge or into this crimp, see attached photos
(these were the worst of the 4 holes and are on the bottom). I email Caleb and
hope to get an answer from him. Has anyone else done this? If so, did you
order new tip ribs or just move away from the crimp and put a new hole
respecting edge distance minimums. Is there a minimum distance from a crimp?
Regards,
Perry
(http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith701801-List)
(http://www.matronics.com/contribution)
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