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1. 04:54 AM - Re: engine mount for 701 (frank goodnight)
2. 06:11 AM - Re: Engine Mount for 701 (Tommy Walker)
3. 09:59 AM - Re: engine mount for 701 (Mark S.)
4. 10:36 AM - Re: engine mount for 701 (Craig Payne)
5. 11:20 AM - Re: Re: Engine Mount for 701 (MacDonald Doug)
6. 12:10 PM - Re: engine mount for 701 (MacDonald Doug)
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| Subject: | Re: engine mount for 701 |
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From: John Marzulli <john.marzulli@gmail.com>
Sent: Mon, July 9, 2012 12:32:52 AM
Subject: Re: Zenith701801-List: engine mount for 701
Is there any reason it has to be the "bed type"? The new Zenith mounts are
designed to be compatible with the old mounts.
I would highly suggest the retrofit. Having flown both types, the ring mount is
far superior.
Good luck,
John Marzulli
Hi John,
I am building a 701 ,and am about ready to hang the engine, a 912 ULS. That I
bought with a Titan
Tornado So I don't believe I will need most of the parts that come
in Zeniths (firewall forward package) Hopefully, just the mount and cowling. I'm
new to the 701
so don't really know what to do . I thought the bed mount would be cheaper , and
the 701 has been flying
for 20 years with them so I figured --try that--. Any advice form you or anyone
that has been there
would be greatly appreciated.
Frank Goodnight
Fayetteville , ARK
http://MarzulliPhoto.net/
http://701Builder.blogspot.com/
On Sun, Jul 8, 2012 at 7:47 PM, frank goodnight <frank.goodnight@att.net> wrote:
>Hi,
>I need a engine mount --bed type-- to mate a 912 to a 701.
>If you have one for sale, call Frank @ 956-371-5924.
>Thanks, Frank Goodnight
>
>
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| Subject: | RE: Engine Mount for 701 |
I agree with John. I built two 701s. The first had the old bed mount and
the second I used the new ring mount. Much, much smoother operation. but,
I'm sure it costs more. There is an aftermarket company in CA that
produces a ring that is a few hundred dollars cheaper than the Rotax ring.
Good luck.
'
Tommy Walker in Alabama
N7462M
N8701
N8701T
N25A (building Kitfox SuperSport)
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| Subject: | Re: engine mount for 701 |
Frank.
I don't know if the engine you have has the Rotax air intake or not. For the
912uls it is recommended by Rotax, to get the 100hp out of the engine, and i
t also gives you carb heat. The air box clears the ring mount but not the m
ount that goes between the ring and firewall.
Zenith just tells you to toss out that thousand dollar part and put on a cou
ple of K&N filters. But that is like running with the carb heat on all the t
ime.
The bed mount will clear the Rotax supplied air box. Giving you cold air for
flying and carb heat if you need it.
Sent from Mark's iPad
On Jul 8, 2012, at 7:47 PM, frank goodnight <frank.goodnight@att.net> wrote:
>
> <--static--liam_heartbubbles_bottomleft.jpg>
> Hi,
> I need a engine mount --bed type-- to mate a 912 to a 701.
> If you have one for sale, call Frank @ 956-371-5924.
> Thanks, Frank Goodnight
>
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| Subject: | engine mount for 701 |
I have the old Skyshop 701 Rotax FWF which uses the bed mount and the
Rotax airbox. But their plans show that you have to modify the airbox to
make it fit. The photos they provide show the center section being
sliced out and rotated about 15-20 degrees such that the two intake
tubes are at 90 degrees relative to the carb outlets. Pictures
(Matronics willing) attached.
FWIW: I asked Michael Heintz about the (new at the time) ring mount. He
had flown both and did not see a world of difference. Also I am not sure
if the new mount is compatible with a cowl intended for the bed mount.
-- Craig
From: owner-zenith701801-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith701801-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark
S.
Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 9:59 AM
Subject: Re: Zenith701801-List: engine mount for 701
Frank.
I don't know if the engine you have has the Rotax air intake or not. For
the 912uls it is recommended by Rotax, to get the 100hp out of the
engine, and it also gives you carb heat. The air box clears the ring
mount but not the mount that goes between the ring and firewall.
Zenith just tells you to toss out that thousand dollar part and put on a
couple of K&N filters. But that is like running with the carb heat on
all the time.
The bed mount will clear the Rotax supplied air box. Giving you cold air
for flying and carb heat if you need it.
Sent from Mark's iPad
On Jul 8, 2012, at 7:47 PM, frank goodnight <frank.goodnight@att.net>
wrote:
<--static--liam_heartbubbles_bottomleft.jpg>
Hi,
I need a engine mount --bed type-- to mate a 912 to a 701.
If you have one for sale, call Frank @ 956-371-5924.
Thanks, Frank Goodnight
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| Subject: | Re: RE: Engine Mount for 701 |
Bullyhawk sells an aftermarket Rotax style ring mount.=0A=0AThe newer firew
all forward kit was developed to stop the tail mount cracking resulting fro
m the 100hp engine.- If you are using the 912ULS, go with ring mount.=0A
=0AI am currently flying the bed mount with my 80hp engine but will be upda
ting to the ring mount next year.=0A=0ADoug M=0ACH-701 from scratch=0A=0ANW
Ontario, Canada=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A From: Tommy Wa
lker <twalker@cableone.net>=0ATo: zenith701801-list@matronics.com =0ASent:
Monday, July 9, 2012 8:09:46 AM=0ASubject: Zenith701801-List: RE: Engine Mo
unt for 701=0A =0A=0AI agree with John. -I built two 701s. -The first h
ad the old bed mount and the second I used the new ring mount. -Much, muc
h smoother operation. -but, I'm sure it costs more. -There is an afterm
arket company in CA that produces a ring that is a few hundred dollars chea
per than the Rotax ring.=0A=0AGood luck.=0A'=0ATommy Walker in Alabama=0AN7
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| Subject: | Re: engine mount for 701 |
Craig, and Frank.- According to Roger (when I asked a few years ago) the
bed mount/ring mount cowls are mutually exclusive.- Both are still availa
ble from Zenith.=0A=0ADoug MacDonald=0A=0A=0A=0A___________________________
_____=0A From: Craig Payne <craig@craigandjean.com>=0ATo: zenith701801-list
@matronics.com =0ASent: Monday, July 9, 2012 12:36:06 PM=0ASubject: RE: Zen
ith701801-List: engine mount for 701=0A =0A=0AI have the old Skyshop 701 Ro
tax FWF which uses the bed mount and the Rotax airbox. But their plans show
that you have to modify the airbox to make it fit. The photos they provide
show the center section being sliced out and rotated about 15-20 degrees s
uch that the two intake tubes are at 90 degrees relative to the carb outlet
s. Pictures (Matronics willing) attached.=0A-=0AFWIW: I asked Michael Hei
ntz about the (new at the time) ring mount. He had flown both and did not s
ee a world of difference. Also I am not sure if the new mount is compatible
with a cowl intended for the bed mount.=0A-=0A-- Craig=0A-=0AFrom:owne
r-zenith701801-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith701801-list-se
rver@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark S.=0ASent: Monday, July 09, 2012 9:59
AM=0ATo: zenith701801-list@matronics.com=0ASubject: Re: Zenith701801-List:
engine mount for 701=0A-=0AFrank.=0A-=0AI don't know if the engine you
have has the Rotax air intake or not. For the 912uls it is recommended by
Rotax, to get the 100hp out of the engine, and it also gives you carb heat.
-The air box clears the ring mount but not the mount that goes between t
he ring and firewall.-=0A-=0AZenith just tells you to toss out that tho
usand dollar part and put on a couple of K&N filters. But that is like runn
ing with the carb heat on all the time. -=0A-=0AThe bed mount will clea
r the Rotax supplied air box. Giving you cold air for flying and carb heat
if you need it.-=0A=0ASent from Mark's-iPad=0A=0AOn Jul 8, 2012, at 7:4
7 PM, frank goodnight <frank.goodnight@att.net> wrote:=0A<--static--liam_he
artbubbles_bottomleft.jpg> =0A>Hi,=0A>I need a engine mount --bed type-- t
o mate a 912 to a 701.=0A>If you have one for sale, call Frank @ 956-371-59
24.-=0A>Thanks, -Frank Goodnight =0A-=0A-=0Ahttp://www.matronic
s.com/Navigator?Zenith701801-List=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com=0Ahttp://ww
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