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1. 09:54 AM - 701sp project for sale (mike soucy)
2. 04:18 PM - 701 TIPS ONTO TAIL (JobeCreek)
3. 04:35 PM - Re: 701 TIPS ONTO TAIL (Tommy Walker)
4. 04:42 PM - Re: 701 TIPS ONTO TAIL (MacDonald Doug)
5. 05:14 PM - Re: 701 TIPS ONTO TAIL (nyterminat@aol.com)
6. 11:26 PM - Re: 701 TIPS ONTO TAIL (John Marzulli)
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| Subject: | 701sp project for sale |
Looks like i will be selling my 701sp project. Have most of the aluminum pa
rts except some wing skins and few parts made from 90. rear fuselage, tail,
wing skeletons, firewall, -flaperons. wings and fuselage are fit and deb
urred but not riveted so I think you could haul it with a mini van easily b
y rolling sheets and putting spars/ longerons on roof. Asking $3000207-240-
3446=0A=0Amike
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| Subject: | 701 TIPS ONTO TAIL |
I have a 701ch with a 914 rotax. When parked, with full fuel, the aircraft will,
on the slightest provocation (i.e. with the elevator down and a slight tailwind),
sit on its tail with the nosewheel in the air. Even with the stick tied
back, I will still find the aircraft tipped up.
Anyone else have this problem? Ideas? Solutions.
Also, I find that as I slow the aircraft to about 60 mph I start to get a lot of
oilcanning and the aircraft shakes although nowhere near a stall. Ideas?
Thanks.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=381110#381110
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| Subject: | Re: 701 TIPS ONTO TAIL |
Suggest you perform a weight and balance function to determine the CG. I built
two 701s and that is not normal The oil canning is built in. Some builders
put cross bracing between the longerons but I think it would be difficult after
built.....
Tommy walker
Sent from my iPad
On Aug 17, 2012, at 6:17 PM, "JobeCreek" <AnIdleKing@att.net> wrote:
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> I have a 701ch with a 914 rotax. When parked, with full fuel, the aircraft will,
on the slightest provocation (i.e. with the elevator down and a slight tailwind),
sit on its tail with the nosewheel in the air. Even with the stick tied
back, I will still find the aircraft tipped up.
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=381110#381110
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| Subject: | Re: 701 TIPS ONTO TAIL |
Sounds like you might have a tail heavy situation.=C2- My scratch build 7
01/912UL plane has no issues with tipping on its tail.=C2- Is it possible
you have slack in the main landing gear mouting?=C2- That could allow yo
u main gear to shift forward at the bottom and essentially shift your CofG
back with relation to the gear.=C2- If not, you must be tail heavy for so
me reason.=C2- Is your battery mounted far back in the tail?=C2- =0A=C2
-=0AAs for the oil canning, I haven't noticed my plane rattle too much ar
ound 60.=C2- If I get down well below 50 It rattles a bit.=C2- Did you
put diagnal "L"s in the tail section when you built it?=C2- Those large f
lat panels make great drums if you don't have the extra "L"s in place.=C2
- They were never on the plans but just about everybody installs them.=0A
=C2-=0ADoug M=0ACH-701 from scratch=0ANW Ontario, Canada=0A=0AFrom: JobeC
reek <AnIdleKing@att.net>=0ATo: zenith701801-list@matronics.com =0ASent: Fr
iday, August 17, 2012 6:17:39 PM=0ASubject: Zenith701801-List: 701 TIPS ONT
g@att.net>=0A=0AI have a 701ch with a 914 rotax.=C2- When parked, with fu
ll fuel, the aircraft will, on the slightest provocation (i.e. with the ele
vator down and a slight tailwind), sit on it=C3=A2=82=AC=84=A2s tail
with the nosewheel in the air.=C2- Even with the stick tied back, I will
still find the aircraft tipped up.=C2- =0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AAnyone else have
this problem?=C2- Ideas?=C2- Solutions.=0A=0A=0A=0AAlso, I find that a
s I slow the aircraft to about 60 mph I start to get a lot of oilcanning an
d the aircraft shakes although nowhere near a stall.=C2- Ideas?=0A=0A=0A
=0AThanks.=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic online here:=0A=0Ahttp://forums.ma
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| Subject: | Re: 701 TIPS ONTO TAIL |
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| Subject: | Re: 701 TIPS ONTO TAIL |
I had this kinda happen once. The plane was nearly empty EXCEPT for about 8
gallons of water and soda pushed into the back of the baggage compartment
and I was puling on the tail.
John Marzulli
http://MarzulliPhoto.net/
http://701Builder.blogspot.com/
On Fri, Aug 17, 2012 at 5:13 PM, nyterminat@aol.com <nyterminat@aol.com>wro
te:
> What are your weights on each wheel? I have not had this problem. You
> shouldn't especially with a 914. Bob Spudis
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> *Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE DROID*
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> JobeCreek <AnIdleKing@att.net> wrote:
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>
> I have a 701ch with a 914 rotax. When parked, with full fuel, the
> aircraft will, on the slightest provocation (i.e. with the elevator down
> and a slight tailwind), sit on it=99s tail with the nosewheel in th
e air.
> Even with the stick tied back, I will still find the aircraft tipped up.
>
>
> Anyone else have this problem? Ideas? Solutions.
>
>
> Also, I find that as I slow the aircraft to about 60 mph I start to get a
> lot of oilcanning and the aircraft shakes although nowhere near a stall.
> Ideas?
>
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=381110#381110
>
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