---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith701801-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Wed 08/22/12: 4 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 06:55 AM - Re: Parts Needed! () 2. 12:58 PM - Re: 701 Mounting Matco Tubless Tires to rims (rayj) 3. 07:29 PM - Re: 701 Mounting Matco Tubless Tires to rims (Larry) 4. 09:14 PM - Re: 701 Mounting Matco Tubless Tires to rims (rayj) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 06:55:39 AM PST US From: Subject: Re: Zenith701801-List: Parts Needed! Cliff, I have a spare set of 701 nose fork to foot pedals control tubes. Chuck D. N701TX Burnet ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 12:58:10 PM PST US From: rayj Subject: Re: Zenith701801-List: 701 Mounting Matco Tubless Tires to rims Thanks to all who replied. As was stated there are merits to both sides. Am I understanding correctly that the tubes and tires move on the rim and cause stem problems and that the tubeless still move but don't cause problems because they don't loose their seal? Do the tubeless go out of balance from the tire moving after while? I will be using 8" rims with tubes on my 750 mains and the 6" on my nose. Just trying to figure out if I want a tube in my nose gear. Raymond Julian Kettle River, MN. "And you know that I could have me a million more friends, and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine On 08/19/2012 07:55 PM, rayj wrote: > > Greetings, > > Aside from weight, what are the merits of tubeless vs. tubes. If this > is an old topic, just send me to the archives. > > Thanks, > Raymond Julian > Kettle River, MN. > > "And you know that I could have me a million more friends, > and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine > > On 08/19/2012 05:55 PM, Tommy Walker wrote: >> Bought tubes for the second 701 and used the o-rings for the first. >> Putting the o-rings in was a two man job for us. >> >> >> Tommy >> Sent from my iPad >> >> On Aug 19, 2012, at 3:46 PM, JohnDRead@aol.com >> wrote: >> >>> I gave up and bought tubes for mine. >>> Regards, John >>> >>> CH701 - Colorado - Jabiru 3300 >>> >>> Cell: 719-494-4567 >>> Home: 303-648-3261 >>> In a message dated 8/18/2012 12:37:57 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, >>> ch701builder@yahoo.com writes: >>> >>> >>> All, >>> Any easy way to prevent the o-ring seal from sliding down the rim >>> while mating the other half of the rim? The directions on page >>> -15- do not exactly work real well. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Keith >>> >>> * >>> >>> ist >>> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith701801-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith701801-List >>> >>> s.matronics.com/ >>> ">http://forums.matronics.com >>> >>> p://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >>> >>> >>> * >>> >>> * >>> >>> >>> * >> * >> >> >> * >> > > ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:29:09 PM PST US From: Larry Subject: Re: Zenith701801-List: 701 Mounting Matco Tubless Tires to rims I don't believe you will have a problem with the tubes if you buy industrial tubes, with steel stems. Don't buy the ones for lawn tractors. If the tire manufacturer had meant for it to be tubeless then they won't have printed "For use with tubes only" on the tires. At least that's what mine say. The newer ones may be different. Larry On 8/22/2012 2:57 PM, rayj wrote: > > Thanks to all who replied. As was stated there are merits to both > sides. Am I understanding correctly that the tubes and tires move on > the rim and cause stem problems and that the tubeless still move but > don't cause problems because they don't loose their seal? Do the > tubeless go out of balance from the tire moving after while? > > I will be using 8" rims with tubes on my 750 mains and the 6" on my > nose. Just trying to figure out if I want a tube in my nose gear. > > Raymond Julian > Kettle River, MN. > > "And you know that I could have me a million more friends, > and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine > > On 08/19/2012 07:55 PM, rayj wrote: >> >> Greetings, >> >> Aside from weight, what are the merits of tubeless vs. tubes. If this >> is an old topic, just send me to the archives. >> >> Thanks, >> Raymond Julian >> Kettle River, MN. >> >> "And you know that I could have me a million more friends, >> and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine >> >> On 08/19/2012 05:55 PM, Tommy Walker wrote: >>> Bought tubes for the second 701 and used the o-rings for the first. >>> Putting the o-rings in was a two man job for us. >>> >>> >>> Tommy >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>> On Aug 19, 2012, at 3:46 PM, JohnDRead@aol.com >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I gave up and bought tubes for mine. >>>> Regards, John >>>> >>>> CH701 - Colorado - Jabiru 3300 >>>> >>>> Cell: 719-494-4567 >>>> Home: 303-648-3261 >>>> In a message dated 8/18/2012 12:37:57 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, >>>> ch701builder@yahoo.com writes: >>>> >>>> >>>> All, >>>> Any easy way to prevent the o-ring seal from sliding down the rim >>>> while mating the other half of the rim? The directions on page >>>> -15- do not exactly work real well. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Keith >>>> >>>> * >>>> >>>> ist >>>> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith701801-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith701801-List >>>> >>>> >>>> s.matronics.com/ >>>> ">http://forums.matronics.com >>>> >>>> p://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> * >>>> >>>> * >>>> >>>> >>>> * >>> * >>> >>> >>> * >>> >> >> >> >> >> > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 09:14:22 PM PST US From: rayj Subject: Re: Zenith701801-List: 701 Mounting Matco Tubless Tires to rims Thanks for the suggestion. I have the tubes that Z provides with their kit, but if I have problems I'll definitely look into that. Raymond Julian Kettle River, MN. "And you know that I could have me a million more friends, and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine On 08/22/2012 09:28 PM, Larry wrote: > > I don't believe you will have a problem with the tubes if you buy > industrial tubes, with steel stems. Don't buy the ones for lawn > tractors. If the tire manufacturer had meant for it to be tubeless then > they won't have printed "For use with tubes only" on the tires. At > least that's what mine say. The newer ones may be different. Larry > > On 8/22/2012 2:57 PM, rayj wrote: >> >> Thanks to all who replied. As was stated there are merits to both >> sides. Am I understanding correctly that the tubes and tires move on >> the rim and cause stem problems and that the tubeless still move but >> don't cause problems because they don't loose their seal? Do the >> tubeless go out of balance from the tire moving after while? >> >> I will be using 8" rims with tubes on my 750 mains and the 6" on my >> nose. Just trying to figure out if I want a tube in my nose gear. >> >> Raymond Julian >> Kettle River, MN. >> >> "And you know that I could have me a million more friends, >> and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine >> >> On 08/19/2012 07:55 PM, rayj wrote: >>> >>> Greetings, >>> >>> Aside from weight, what are the merits of tubeless vs. tubes. If this >>> is an old topic, just send me to the archives. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Raymond Julian >>> Kettle River, MN. >>> >>> "And you know that I could have me a million more friends, >>> and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine >>> >>> On 08/19/2012 05:55 PM, Tommy Walker wrote: >>>> Bought tubes for the second 701 and used the o-rings for the first. >>>> Putting the o-rings in was a two man job for us. >>>> >>>> >>>> Tommy >>>> Sent from my iPad >>>> >>>> On Aug 19, 2012, at 3:46 PM, JohnDRead@aol.com >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I gave up and bought tubes for mine. >>>>> Regards, John >>>>> >>>>> CH701 - Colorado - Jabiru 3300 >>>>> >>>>> Cell: 719-494-4567 >>>>> Home: 303-648-3261 >>>>> In a message dated 8/18/2012 12:37:57 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, >>>>> ch701builder@yahoo.com writes: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> All, >>>>> Any easy way to prevent the o-ring seal from sliding down the rim >>>>> while mating the other half of the rim? The directions on page >>>>> -15- do not exactly work real well. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> >>>>> Keith >>>>> >>>>> * >>>>> >>>>> ist >>>>> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith701801-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith701801-List >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> s.matronics.com/ >>>>> ">http://forums.matronics.com >>>>> >>>>> p://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> * >>>>> >>>>> * >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> * >>>> * >>>> >>>> >>>> * >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message zenith701801-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Zenith701801-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/zenith701801-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/zenith701801-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.