---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith701801-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 12/24/12: 3 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 07:33 AM - new 701 pilot (frank goodnight) 2. 09:26 AM - Re: new 701 pilot (MacDonald Doug) 3. 10:54 AM - Re: new 701 pilot (John Marzulli) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 07:33:27 AM PST US From: frank goodnight Subject: Zenith701801-List: new 701 pilot Hi All, Just finished my 701 and am starting to fly off my phase 1. I have a couple of questions that I'm sure some of you that fly a 701 can answer. What seems to be the most common airspeed for final and short final? Not for a short field, just a normal runway paved or grass, I have been using 60 mph --works-- but would like to know what most of you use. Also for 1st time use of flaps, would you prefer to do it on takeoff , or up a couple thousand feet while doing slow flight and stalls ? Thanks for any help you can give me. Frank Goodnight Fayetteville , AR ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 09:26:32 AM PST US From: MacDonald Doug Subject: Re: Zenith701801-List: new 701 pilot =0A=0AFrank, congrats on getting into the air.- =0A-=0AEach plane is go ing to be a bit different and you will have to develop a "works for you" ap proach to flying yours.- For me I use 55 mph indicated for approach and s low to 45-50 on ery short final.- I maintain about 3000 to 3500 rpm on sh ort final as the 701 drops like a stone if you aren't careful.- For flaps , don't use them for takeoff.- They are essentially barn doors and genera lly slow takeoff performance more than help it.- It is probably a good id ea to try them out at altitude before you try landing with them but short f inal is where you will run into issues if you are going to have any.- Try -landing with the flaps carrying-"too much" power in the roundout at fi rst; try 4000 to 4300 rpm.- Once you are comfortable with their effect th en decrease the round-out RPM gradually until you find your sweet spot.- Be careful about "dropping it in", the gear is pretty tough for a light pla ne but it only takes one or two drops to permanantly splay the wheels.=0A-=0AHope this helps.=0A-=0ADoug M=0ACH-701from scratch=0ANW Ontario, Canada=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: frank goodnig ht =0ATo: zenith701801-list@matronics.com =0ASent: Monday, December 24, 2012 9:32:57 AM=0ASubject: Zenith701801-List: new 701 pilot=0A=0A=0A =0AHi All,=0AJust finished my 701 and am starting to fly o ff my=0Aphase 1. I have a couple of questions that I'm sure=0Asome of you t hat fly a 701 can answer. What seems to be the most common airspeed for fin al and short final? Not-=0Afor a short field, just a normal runway paved or grass, I have been using 60 mph --works-- but -would like to know what most of you use. Also for 1st time use of flaps, would you prefer to do it on takeoff , or up a couple thousand feet while doing slow flight and stal ls ? -Thanks for any help you can give me.=0AFrank Goodnight=0AFayettevil le , AR- ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 10:54:11 AM PST US Subject: Re: Zenith701801-List: new 701 pilot From: John Marzulli I second Doug's thoughts. Use the flaps first during slow flight and at a safe altitude. If you have the factory default flap handle be prepared to use a lot of force to get them down. Some slow flight testing with the factory setup was more than enough to convince me to buy the Kube Kontrol. Here are my tips for landing the 701 1) 55MPH on final is normally what I use. If I am doing really short landings then I slow up to 35-40, but to do that you have to get behind on the power curve which requires tons of right rudder and decent experience with the plane. It can be uncomfortable at first. 2) Use power to control your descent rate. 3) Do not use flaps at all during your first ten hours for take off or landing. 4) Get the Kube Control if you do not already have it. 5) Keep your feet on the rudders. 6) A single notch of flaps will get you off the ground a little sooner, but will decrease your climb rate. Good luck! -John John Marzulli http://MarzulliPhoto.net/ http://701Builder.blogspot.com/ On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 9:25 AM, MacDonald Doug wrote: > > Frank, congrats on getting into the air. > > Each plane is going to be a bit different and you will have to develop a > "works for you" approach to flying yours. For me I use 55 mph indicated > for approach and slow to 45-50 on ery short final. I maintain about 3000 > to 3500 rpm on short final as the 701 drops like a stone if you aren't > careful. For flaps, don't use them for takeoff. They are essentially barn > doors and generally slow takeoff performance more than help it. It is > probably a good idea to try them out at altitude before you try landing > with them but short final is where you will run into issues if you are > going to have any. Try landing with the flaps carrying "too much" power in > the roundout at first; try 4000 to 4300 rpm. Once you are comfortable with > their effect then decrease the round-out RPM gradually until you find your > sweet spot. Be careful about "dropping it in", the gear is pretty tough > for a light plane but it only takes one or two drops to permanantly splay > the wheels. > > Hope this helps. > > Doug M > CH-701from scratch > NW Ontario, Canada > ------------------------------ > *From:* frank goodnight > *To:* zenith701801-list@matronics.com > *Sent:* Monday, December 24, 2012 9:32:57 AM > *Subject:* Zenith701801-List: new 701 pilot > > Hi All, > Just finished my 701 and am starting to fly off my > phase 1. I have a couple of questions that I'm sure > some of you that fly a 701 can answer. What seems to be the most common > airspeed for final and short final? Not > for a short field, just a normal runway paved or grass, I have been using > 60 mph --works-- but would like to know what most of you use. Also for 1st > time use of flaps, would you prefer to do it on takeoff , or up a couple > thousand feet while doing slow flight and stalls ? Thanks for any help you > can give me. > Frank Goodnight > Fayetteville , AR > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message zenith701801-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Zenith701801-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/zenith701801-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/zenith701801-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.