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| Subject: | Re: new 701 pilot |
Frank: This may make it easier (although I admit to having a little too
much right rudder on final)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aehqzChzJ4c
John Marzulli
http://MarzulliPhoto.net/
http://701Builder.blogspot.com/
On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 9:25 AM, MacDonald Doug <dougsnash@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> Frank, congrats on getting into the air.
>
> Each plane is going to be a bit different and you will have to develop a
> "works for you" approach to flying yours. For me I use 55 mph indicated
> for approach and slow to 45-50 on ery short final. I maintain about 3000
> to 3500 rpm on short final as the 701 drops like a stone if you aren't
> careful. For flaps, don't use them for takeoff. They are essentially barn
> doors and generally slow takeoff performance more than help it. It is
> probably a good idea to try them out at altitude before you try landing
> with them but short final is where you will run into issues if you are
> going to have any. Try landing with the flaps carrying "too much" power in
> the roundout at first; try 4000 to 4300 rpm. Once you are comfortable with
> their effect then decrease the round-out RPM gradually until you find your
> sweet spot. Be careful about "dropping it in", the gear is pretty tough
> for a light plane but it only takes one or two drops to permanantly splay
> the wheels.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Doug M
> CH-701from scratch
> NW Ontario, Canada
> ------------------------------
> *From:* frank goodnight <frank.goodnight@att.net>
> *To:* zenith701801-list@matronics.com
> *Sent:* Monday, December 24, 2012 9:32:57 AM
> *Subject:* Zenith701801-List: new 701 pilot
>
> Hi All,
> Just finished my 701 and am starting to fly off my
> phase 1. I have a couple of questions that I'm sure
> some of you that fly a 701 can answer. What seems to be the most common
> airspeed for final and short final? Not
> for a short field, just a normal runway paved or grass, I have been using
> 60 mph --works-- but would like to know what most of you use. Also for 1st
> time use of flaps, would you prefer to do it on takeoff , or up a couple
> thousand feet while doing slow flight and stalls ? Thanks for any help you
> can give me.
> Frank Goodnight
> Fayetteville , AR
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: new 701 pilot |
I've never flown anything but Cessna 152s and 172's until I started on my 701 Phase
I so the transition has taken some time and is still very much ongoing.
I've been using 55 KIAS on base and final with no flaps, mainly because there's
usually other faster traffic in the Class D that I don't want to hold up.
45-50 works, but its not very polite for the Citation who's hot on my butt...
I'm also gradually flying narrower patterns as I get more familiar with it.
If I fly the standard "Cessna" pattern, (1/2 mile base and final) I end up having
to drag it in with a lot of power. The higher airspeed over the numbers
always makes it easier to grease it on and save the tires.
On short and soft fields I expect my norm will be full flaps and 40 KIAS or so,
but I haven't played with it enough yet to know. I definitely agree that its
best to get comfortable with the flaps at altitude first as they really add a
lot of drag, and it already can drop out on you even without flaps if you take
too much power out too fast.
Check out John Marzulli's videos on You-tube and Roger at Zenith has a good one
on there too. I mounted a video camera in the cockpit kind of on the same order
as John's and plugged the mic into the intercom. That really helped a lot
during Phase I testing, especially if you only get a chance to fly every few
weeks.
Enjoy the ride. If you go into it with the same attitude as building, the flight
testing is every bit as fun.
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