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     1. 08:50 AM - Re: Zenith701801-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 06/10/13 (Bruce Cruikshank)
     2. 08:50 AM - Re: Zenith701801-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 06/10/13 (Bruce Cruikshank)
     3. 09:26 AM - Re: Re: Zenith701801-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 06/10/13 (rayj)
 
 
 


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    Time: 08:50:42 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Zenith701801-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 06/10/13
    From: Bruce Cruikshank <n5959z@gmail.com>
    I used a 6" mill file, but rounded the edges of the file with a ScotchBrite wheel to avoid scratching in the sheet around the holes. Very fast, and does not remove valuable bearing area in the holes in thin sheet. Bruce CH750 On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 12:00 AM, Zenith701801-List Digest Server < zenith701801-list@matronics.com> wrote: > * > > ================================================= > Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive > ================================================= > > Today's complete Zenith701801-List Digest can also be found in either of > the > two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted > in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes > and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version > of the Zenith701801-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text > editor > such as Notepad or with a web browser. > > HTML Version: > > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 13-06-10&Archive=Zenith701801 > > Text Version: > > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 13-06-10&Archive=Zenith701801 > > > =============================================== > EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive > =============================================== > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Zenith701801-List Digest Archive > --- > Total Messages Posted Mon 06/10/13: 1 > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > Today's Message Index: > ---------------------- > > 1. 03:46 AM - Re: Deburring ribs, spar, channels and wing skins RW > (MacDonald Doug) > > > ________________________________ Message 1 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 03:46:52 AM PST US > From: MacDonald Doug <dougsnash@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: Zenith701801-List: Deburring ribs, spar, channels and wing > skins RW > > Perry, burrs are a sharp edge and provide a point which could become a stre > ss riser and potentially lead to a crack.=C2- In other words, get rid of > them all.=C2- I am a bit obsessive about eliminating burrs and sharp edge > s=C2-on my projects.=C2- Fortunately, the 6061T6 which Zenith planes ar > e made from is fairly easy to eliminate burrs.=C2- Rather than using the > time consuming method of going over every hole with a larger drill bit or w > ith a de-burring tool, you can easily de-burr using a file.=C2- I found a > nice little vixen file at Princess Auto in their autobody department.=C2 > -=C2-The file=C2-is about a one inch square of file blade attached to > a small wooden block.=C2- The file's intent is for removing small lumps > in automotive body filler but is works great on aluminum.=C2- I also used > a six inch fairly fine file to clean up the edges of the parts.=C2- Basi > cally, when the part is de-burred acceptably, you should be able to run you > r bare hand over any portion of the part > and not get cut.=0A=C2-=0AHope this helps=0A=C2-=0ADoug MacDonald=0ACH > -701 from scratch=0ANW Ontario, Canada=0A=C2- =0A=0A_____________________ > ___________=0A From: Perry Delano <pdelano@telus.net>=0ATo: > zenith701801-li > st@matronics.com =0ASent: Sunday, June 9, 2013 11:54:00 PM=0ASubject: > Zenit > h701801-List: Deburring ribs, spar, channels and wing skins RW=0A =0A=0A > =0AHi all,=0A=C2-=0AIs there a rule of thumb for deburring on a CH-701. I > s a vixen file the best, flat file or should one go lightly with a counters > ink bit or large drill bit. Is it enough to do under the factory head and b > etween mating surfaces or does one have to remove the burrs from every side > , even where the shop head of the rivet will contact. The building standard > s say to ensure not to counter sink holes and a flat file may pull material > into the hole but I don=99t believe it describes how best to do this > work. I have done all the drilling on the upper and lower wing skins for t > he right wing and started deburring when I thought, I=99d better see > what others on the list have done.=0A=C2-=0ARegards,=0A=C2-=0APerry =0A > ================ > >


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    Time: 08:50:42 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Zenith701801-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 06/10/13
    From: Bruce Cruikshank <n5959z@gmail.com>
    I used a 6" mill file, but rounded the edges of the file with a ScotchBrite wheel to avoid scratching in the sheet around the holes. Very fast, and does not remove valuable bearing area in the holes in thin sheet. Bruce CH750 On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 12:00 AM, Zenith701801-List Digest Server < zenith701801-list@matronics.com> wrote: > * > > ================================================= > Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive > ================================================= > > Today's complete Zenith701801-List Digest can also be found in either of > the > two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted > in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes > and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version > of the Zenith701801-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text > editor > such as Notepad or with a web browser. > > HTML Version: > > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 13-06-10&Archive=Zenith701801 > > Text Version: > > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 13-06-10&Archive=Zenith701801 > > > =============================================== > EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive > =============================================== > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Zenith701801-List Digest Archive > --- > Total Messages Posted Mon 06/10/13: 1 > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > Today's Message Index: > ---------------------- > > 1. 03:46 AM - Re: Deburring ribs, spar, channels and wing skins RW > (MacDonald Doug) > > > ________________________________ Message 1 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 03:46:52 AM PST US > From: MacDonald Doug <dougsnash@yahoo.com> > Subject: Re: Zenith701801-List: Deburring ribs, spar, channels and wing > skins RW > > Perry, burrs are a sharp edge and provide a point which could become a stre > ss riser and potentially lead to a crack.=C2- In other words, get rid of > them all.=C2- I am a bit obsessive about eliminating burrs and sharp edge > s=C2-on my projects.=C2- Fortunately, the 6061T6 which Zenith planes ar > e made from is fairly easy to eliminate burrs.=C2- Rather than using the > time consuming method of going over every hole with a larger drill bit or w > ith a de-burring tool, you can easily de-burr using a file.=C2- I found a > nice little vixen file at Princess Auto in their autobody department.=C2 > -=C2-The file=C2-is about a one inch square of file blade attached to > a small wooden block.=C2- The file's intent is for removing small lumps > in automotive body filler but is works great on aluminum.=C2- I also used > a six inch fairly fine file to clean up the edges of the parts.=C2- Basi > cally, when the part is de-burred acceptably, you should be able to run you > r bare hand over any portion of the part > and not get cut.=0A=C2-=0AHope this helps=0A=C2-=0ADoug MacDonald=0ACH > -701 from scratch=0ANW Ontario, Canada=0A=C2- =0A=0A_____________________ > ___________=0A From: Perry Delano <pdelano@telus.net>=0ATo: > zenith701801-li > st@matronics.com =0ASent: Sunday, June 9, 2013 11:54:00 PM=0ASubject: > Zenit > h701801-List: Deburring ribs, spar, channels and wing skins RW=0A =0A=0A > =0AHi all,=0A=C2-=0AIs there a rule of thumb for deburring on a CH-701. I > s a vixen file the best, flat file or should one go lightly with a counters > ink bit or large drill bit. Is it enough to do under the factory head and b > etween mating surfaces or does one have to remove the burrs from every side > , even where the shop head of the rivet will contact. The building standard > s say to ensure not to counter sink holes and a flat file may pull material > into the hole but I don=99t believe it describes how best to do this > work. I have done all the drilling on the upper and lower wing skins for t > he right wing and started deburring when I thought, I=99d better see > what others on the list have done.=0A=C2-=0ARegards,=0A=C2-=0APerry =0A > ================ > >


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    Time: 09:26:22 AM PST US
    From: rayj <raymondj@frontiernet.net>
    Subject: Re: Zenith701801-List Digest: 1 Msgs - 06/10/13
    I did the same thing witha vixen file. Broke off a pieceabout 3" long and ground off all thecorners. As I recall, that's what was used in the rudder workshop. Raymond Julian Kettle River, MN. "And you know that I could have me a million more friends, and all I'd have to lose is my point of view." - John Prine On 06/11/2013 10:50 AM, Bruce Cruikshank wrote: > I used a 6" mill file, but rounded the edges of the file with a > ScotchBrite wheel to avoid scratching in the sheet around the holes. > Very fast, and does not remove valuable bearing area in the holes in > thin sheet. > > Bruce CH750 > > > On Tue, Jun 11, 2013 at 12:00 AM, Zenith701801-List Digest Server > <zenith701801-list@matronics.com > <mailto:zenith701801-list@matronics.com>> wrote: > > * > > ======================== > Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive > ======================== > > Today's complete Zenith701801-List Digest can also be found in > either of the > two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest > formatted > in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked > Indexes > and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII > version > of the Zenith701801-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic > text editor > such as Notepad or with a web browser. > > HTML Version: > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 13-06-10&Archive=Zenith701801 > > Text Version: > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 13-06-10&Archive=Zenith701801 > > > =============================================== > EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive > =============================================== > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Zenith701801-List Digest Archive > --- > Total Messages Posted Mon 06/10/13: 1 > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > Today's Message Index: > ---------------------- > > 1. 03:46 AM - Re: Deburring ribs, spar, channels and wing > skins RW (MacDonald Doug) > > > ________________________________ Message 1 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 03:46:52 AM PST US > From: MacDonald Doug <dougsnash@yahoo.com > <mailto:dougsnash@yahoo.com>> > Subject: Re: Zenith701801-List: Deburring ribs, spar, channels and > wing skins RW > > Perry, burrs are a sharp edge and provide a point which could > become a stre > ss riser and potentially lead to a crack.=C2- In other words, get > rid of > them all.=C2- I am a bit obsessive about eliminating burrs and > sharp edge > s=C2-on my projects.=C2- Fortunately, the 6061T6 which Zenith > planes ar > e made from is fairly easy to eliminate burrs.=C2- Rather than > using the > time consuming method of going over every hole with a larger drill > bit or w > ith a de-burring tool, you can easily de-burr using a file.=C2- I > found a > nice little vixen file at Princess Auto in their autobody > department.=C2 > -=C2-The file=C2-is about a one inch square of file blade attached to > a small wooden block.=C2- The file's intent is for removing small > lumps > in automotive body filler but is works great on aluminum.=C2- I > also used > a six inch fairly fine file to clean up the edges of the > parts.=C2- Basi > cally, when the part is de-burred acceptably, you should be able > to run you > r bare hand over any portion of the part > and not get cut.=0A=C2-=0AHope this helps=0A=C2-=0ADoug > MacDonald=0ACH > -701 from scratch=0ANW Ontario, Canada=0A=C2- > =0A=0A_____________________ > ___________=0A From: Perry Delano <pdelano@telus.net > <mailto:pdelano@telus.net>>=0ATo: zenith701801-li > st@matronics.com <mailto:st@matronics.com> =0ASent: Sunday, June > 9, 2013 11:54:00 PM=0ASubject: Zenit > h701801-List: Deburring ribs, spar, channels and wing skins RW=0A > =0A=0A > =0AHi all,=0A=C2-=0AIs there a rule of thumb for deburring on a > CH-701. I > s a vixen file the best, flat file or should one go lightly with a > counters > ink bit or large drill bit. Is it enough to do under the factory > head and b > etween mating surfaces or does one have to remove the burrs from > every side > , even where the shop head of the rivet will contact. The building > standard > s say to ensure not to counter sink holes and a flat file may pull > material > into the hole but I don=99t believe it describes how best to do this > work. I have done all the drilling on the upper and lower wing > skins for t > he right wing and started deburring when I thought, I=99d better see > what others on the list have > done.=0A=C2-=0ARegards,=0A=C2-=0APerry =0A > ================ > > > ========== > -List" > target="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Zenith701801-List > ========== > http://forums.matronics.com > ========== > le, List Admin. > ="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution > ========== > > > * > > > *




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