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1. 06:07 AM - Re: Old kit new problems (Ben)
2. 06:36 AM - Re: Old kit new problems (John Marzulli)
3. 06:39 AM - Re: Old kit new problems (Vance Simons)
4. 06:39 AM - Re: Old kit new problems (MacDonald Doug)
5. 10:51 AM - Re: Old kit new problems (rvsimons)
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| Subject: | Re: Old kit new problems |
Personally I would say yes.....
do not archive
Ben Haas
N801BH
www.haaspowerair.com
---------- Original Message ----------
From: "rvsimons" <vancesimons@gmail.com>
Subject: Zenith701801-List: Old kit new problems
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I bought a older 701 kit last year which the previous owner bought most
of the SP upgrades to turn it from a 950 gross weight to an 1100 gross w
eight plane. I have been upgrading the wing spars by installing the heav
ier plate where the struts mount and installed the doubler at the spar r
oots. The plans called for a heavier wing attachment bracket (1/8 to 3/1
6). I bought the material only to find that my old cabin receiver will n
ot except the 3/16 metal thickness. The old cabin was made with slots to
take 1/8 only. My question is can make my wing attachment brackets out
of 1/8 4130 instead of using the old 1/8 6061. I feel this will strength
en the wing attachment without having to rebuild the slots in the cabin.
Thoughts?
Thank you
Vance Simons
Post Falls ID.
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Post Falls, Idaho
Zenith 701
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| Subject: | Re: Old kit new problems |
Have you called Zenith about it? They must have supported retro fits when
they upgraded to the SP airframe.
John Marzulli
http://MarzulliPhoto.net/
http://701Builder.blogspot.com/
On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 6:04 AM, Ben <n801bh@netzero.com> wrote:
> Personally I would say yes.....
>
> do not archive
>
>
> Ben Haas
> N801BH
> www.haaspowerair.com
>
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> ---------- Original Message ----------
> From: "rvsimons" <vancesimons@gmail.com>
> To: zenith701801-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Zenith701801-List: Old kit new problems
> Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 21:43:04 -0700
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> >
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> I bought a older 701 kit last year which the previous owner bought most of
> the SP upgrades to turn it from a 950 gross weight to an 1100 gross weight
> plane. I have been upgrading the wing spars by installing the heavier plate
> where the struts mount and installed the doubler at the spar roots. The
> plans called for a heavier wing attachment bracket (1/8 to 3/16). I bought
> the material only to find that my old cabin receiver will not except the
> 3/16 metal thickness. The old cabin was made with slots to take 1/8 only.
> My question is can make my wing attachment brackets out of 1/8 4130 instead
> of using the old 1/8 6061. I feel this will strengthen the wing attachment
> without having to rebuild the slots in the cabin. Thoughts?
>
> Thank you
> Vance Simons
> Post Falls ID.
>
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> Vance Simons
> Post Falls, Idaho
> Zenith 701
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| Subject: | Re: Old kit new problems |
I'm calling them this morning.
On Jun 20, 2013 6:37 AM, "John Marzulli" <john.marzulli@gmail.com> wrote:
> Have you called Zenith about it? They must have supported retro fits when
> they upgraded to the SP airframe.
>
>
> John Marzulli
>
> http://MarzulliPhoto.net/
> http://701Builder.blogspot.com/
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 20, 2013 at 6:04 AM, Ben <n801bh@netzero.com> wrote:
>
>> Personally I would say yes.....
>>
>> do not archive
>>
>>
>> Ben Haas
>> N801BH
>> www.haaspowerair.com
>>
>>
>> ---------- Original Message ----------
>> From: "rvsimons" <vancesimons@gmail.com>
>> To: zenith701801-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Zenith701801-List: Old kit new problems
>> Date: Wed, 19 Jun 2013 21:43:04 -0700
>>
>> vancesimons@gmail.com>
>>
>> I bought a older 701 kit last year which the previous owner bought most
>> of the SP upgrades to turn it from a 950 gross weight to an 1100 gross
>> weight plane. I have been upgrading the wing spars by installing the
>> heavier plate where the struts mount and installed the doubler at the spar
>> roots. The plans called for a heavier wing attachment bracket (1/8 to
>> 3/16). I bought the material only to find that my old cabin receiver will
>> not except the 3/16 metal thickness. The old cabin was made with slots to
>> take 1/8 only. My question is can make my wing attachment brackets out of
>> 1/8 4130 instead of using the old 1/8 6061. I feel this will strengthen the
>> wing attachment without having to rebuild the slots in the cabin. Thoughts?
>>
>> Thank you
>> Vance Simons
>> Post Falls ID.
>>
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>> Vance Simons
>> Post Falls, Idaho
>> Zenith 701
>>
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| Subject: | Re: Old kit new problems |
I tend to agree with Ben but would suggest a call to Zenith to get Caleb's
opinion.- =0A=0ADoug M=0ACH-701 from scratch=0ANW Ontario, Canada=0A=0A
=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A From: Ben <n801bh@netzero.com>
=0ATo: zenith701801-list@matronics.com =0ASent: Thursday, June 20, 2013 8:0
4:42 AM=0ASubject: Re: Zenith701801-List: Old kit new problems=0A =0A=0A=0A
Personally I would say yes.....=0Ado not archive=0A=0A=0ABen Haas=0AN801BH
=0Awww.haaspowerair.com=0A=0A---------- Original Message ----------=0AFrom:
"rvsimons" <vancesimons@gmail.com>=0ATo: zenith701801-list@matronics.com
=0ASubject: Zenith701801-List: Old kit new problems=0ADate: Wed, 19 Jun 201
vancesimons@gmail.com>=0A=0AI bought a older 701 kit last year which the pr
evious owner bought most of the SP upgrades to turn it from a 950 gross wei
ght to an 1100 gross weight plane. I have been upgrading the wing spars by
installing the heavier plate where the struts mount and installed the doubl
er at the spar roots. The plans called for a heavier wing attachment bracke
t (1/8 to 3/16). I bought the material only to find that my old cabin recei
ver will not except the 3/16 metal thickness. The old cabin was made with s
lots to take 1/8 only. My question is can make my wing attachment brackets
out of 1/8 4130 instead of using the old 1/8 6061. I feel this will strengt
hen the wing attachment without having to rebuild the slots in the cabin. T
houghts?=0A=0AThank you=0AVance Simons=0APost Falls ID.
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| Subject: | Re: Old kit new problems |
Update. So I called and spoke with Caleb this morning. He said my cabin was made
out of mild steel and since 2000 they were made of 4130. I told him I thought
it was made out of 4130. When I asked about changing the spar attachment to
1/8th 4130 instead of using the 6061 1/8th inch so I would not have to cut up
my cabin he said he didn't have an answer for me and honestly was to busy to get
one but if I would email him the question again he could look into it in two
weeks... :? After talking to him I ran home and looked at my cabin. Sure enough
it was made out of 4130 as it was printed right on the tubing. So my plan
now is to talk to my EAA advisor and make the new attachments out of 1/8th 4130.
4130 has a tensile strength of 97 psi where 6061 is rated at 45 psi. I strongly
believe using the 1/8th 4130 verses the 6061 will more than compensate for
the strength difference between the 1/8th and the 3/16th 6061 material thickness
change. A little discouraged but pressing on.
Vance Simons
Post Falls, ID.
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Vance Simons
Post Falls, Idaho
Zenith 701
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