---------------------------------------------------------- Zenith701801-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 01/20/14: 7 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:21 PM - Flat tire on landing (Dan Wilde) 2. 02:36 PM - Re: Flat tire on landing (Randall Hebert) 3. 02:37 PM - Re: Flat tire on landing (Frank) 4. 02:47 PM - Re: Flat tire on landing (Dan Wilde) 5. 02:49 PM - Re: Flat tire on landing (Frank) 6. 03:32 PM - Re: Flat tire on landing (MacDonald Doug) 7. 03:37 PM - Re: Flat tire on landing (Frank) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:21:19 PM PST US From: Dan Wilde Subject: Zenith701801-List: Flat tire on landing Yesterday I went for a pleasant flight and landed at two airports before heading home to my dirt/grass strip. I landed fine and continued taxiing to my shop. The longer I taxied the more power I needed. I knew right away that the tire must have gone flat but since it was only a few feet to my shop I finished moving it before stopping. The tire was totally flat but I think that if I had needed to, I could have taken off and landed safely on the flat tire. Has anyone had to do this? Because I have had trouble in the past removing the tire from the wheel, I went to Harbor Fright and purchased a bead breaker for $49.99. This was one of the best investments I have ever made. The tire was off the rim if less than 5 minutes. In the past using just hand tools, I had struggled for 3 hours to get the tire off the rim. Typically the quality of tools from there is marginal but since I will only use this once in a great while, it should last and at this price I could not resist. Dan ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 02:36:47 PM PST US From: "Randall Hebert" Subject: RE: Zenith701801-List: Flat tire on landing Dan I too bought the bead breaker from HF. It came in very handy since my local repair shop charged $25 to fix the first flat. I did the second one and it is working fine. I haven't tried to T.O. or land with the flat. Do you have tubes or tubeless? I had two flats with the tubes that came with the wheels from Zenith. My shop ordered two new tubes for me and they seem to be much better. The next time I get a flat I will convert to tubeless though. Randall J. Hebert N7701P -----Original Message----- From: owner-zenith701801-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith701801-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan Wilde Sent: Monday, January 20, 2014 4:21 PM Subject: Zenith701801-List: Flat tire on landing --> Yesterday I went for a pleasant flight and landed at two airports before heading home to my dirt/grass strip. I landed fine and continued taxiing to my shop. The longer I taxied the more power I needed. I knew right away that the tire must have gone flat but since it was only a few feet to my shop I finished moving it before stopping. The tire was totally flat but I think that if I had needed to, I could have taken off and landed safely on the flat tire. Has anyone had to do this? Because I have had trouble in the past removing the tire from the wheel, I went to Harbor Fright and purchased a bead breaker for $49.99. This was one of the best investments I have ever made. The tire was off the rim if less than 5 minutes. In the past using just hand tools, I had struggled for 3 hours to get the tire off the rim. Typically the quality of tools from there is marginal but since I will only use this once in a great while, it should last and at this price I could not resist. Dan ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 02:37:51 PM PST US Subject: Re: Zenith701801-List: Flat tire on landing From: Frank Dan Never did it in my 701, but landed With a flat tire 2 times in my kolb, both times I din't even know the tire was flat Until I had slowed down to almost Walking speed. However once stoped I could not get started again,had to fix It where it set.don't know if you could Get a 701 moving again Frank Sent from my iPhone On Jan 20, 2014, at 4:20 PM, Dan Wilde wrote: > > Yesterday I went for a pleasant flight and landed at two airports before heading home to my dirt/grass strip. I landed fine and continued taxiing to my shop. The longer I taxied the more power I needed. I knew right away that the tire must have gone flat but since it was only a few feet to my shop I finished moving it before stopping. The tire was totally flat but I think that if I had needed to, I could have taken off and landed safely on the flat tire. Has anyone had to do this? > > Because I have had trouble in the past removing the tire from the wheel, I went to Harbor Fright and purchased a bead breaker for $49.99. This was one of the best investments I have ever made. The tire was off the rim if less than 5 minutes. In the past using just hand tools, I had struggled for 3 hours to get the tire off the rim. Typically the quality of tools from there is marginal but since I will only use this once in a great while, it should last and at this price I could not resist. > > Dan > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 02:47:17 PM PST US From: Dan Wilde Subject: Re: Zenith701801-List: Flat tire on landing On 1/20/2014 2:36 PM, Randall Hebert wrote: > > Dan I too bought the bead breaker from HF. It came in very handy since my > local repair shop charged $25 to fix the first flat. > I did the second one and it is working fine. > > I haven't tried to T.O. or land with the flat. > > Do you have tubes or tubeless? > > I had two flats with the tubes that came with the wheels from Zenith. > My shop ordered two new tubes for me and they seem to be much better. The > next time I get a flat I will convert to tubeless though. > > > Randall J. Hebert > N7701P > > I am running tubeless. Dan ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 02:49:30 PM PST US Subject: Re: Zenith701801-List: Flat tire on landing From: Frank Randel, I have the tubeless tires that came With my 701 kit-- pretty but I have to air them up about every 2 or 3 weeks. Not much of a problem but i plan to put tubes in them the weather gets better. Frank Sent from my iPhone On Jan 20, 2014, at 4:36 PM, "Randall Hebert" wrote: > > Dan I too bought the bead breaker from HF. It came in very handy since my > local repair shop charged $25 to fix the first flat. > I did the second one and it is working fine. > > I haven't tried to T.O. or land with the flat. > > Do you have tubes or tubeless? > > I had two flats with the tubes that came with the wheels from Zenith. > My shop ordered two new tubes for me and they seem to be much better. The > next time I get a flat I will convert to tubeless though. > > > Randall J. Hebert > N7701P > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-zenith701801-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-zenith701801-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan Wilde > Sent: Monday, January 20, 2014 4:21 PM > To: Zenith701801-List@matronics.com > Subject: Zenith701801-List: Flat tire on landing > > --> > > Yesterday I went for a pleasant flight and landed at two airports before > heading home to my dirt/grass strip. I landed fine and continued taxiing to > my shop. The longer I taxied the more power I needed. I knew right away > that the tire must have gone flat but since it was only a few feet to my > shop I finished moving it before stopping. The tire was totally flat but I > think that if I had needed to, I could have taken off and landed safely on > the flat tire. Has anyone had to do this? > > Because I have had trouble in the past removing the tire from the wheel, I > went to Harbor Fright and purchased a bead breaker for $49.99. This was one > of the best investments I have ever made. The tire was off the rim if less > than 5 minutes. In the past using just hand tools, I had struggled for 3 > hours to get the tire off the rim. Typically the quality of tools from > there is marginal but since I will only use this once in a great while, it > should last and at this price I could not resist. > > Dan > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 03:32:47 PM PST US From: MacDonald Doug Subject: Re: Zenith701801-List: Flat tire on landing For those who are having trouble with the Matco tubeless tires leaking air at the split rim, I have found that if you coat the o-ring at the split in the rim with spray lithium grease the leaks go away.- Might be worth spra ying the o-rings the next time you have you wheels apart. =0A=0AWhen I firs t installed the nose wheel on my 701 I had a slow leak which flattened the tire over the course of a couple of weeks.- The spray grease on the o-rin g fixed it right up.- After greasing all of my wheel o-rings I might put a little air in my tires once a year (three frigid Canadian winters later). =0A=0ADoug M=0ACH 701 in NW Ontario, Canada=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0AOn Monday, Jan uary 20, 2014 4:54:13 PM, Frank wrote:=0A =0A--> Zenith701801-List message posted by: Frank =0A=0AR andel,=0AI have the tubeless tires that came=0AWith my 701 kit-- pretty but I have to air them up about every 2 or 3 weeks.=0ANot much of a problem bu t i plan to put tubes in them the weather gets better.=0AFrank=0A=0ASent fr om my iPhone=0A=0AOn Jan 20, 2014, at 4:36 PM, "Randall Hebert" =0A> =0A> Dan I too bought the bead br eaker from HF.- It came in very handy since my=0A> local repair shop char ged $25 to fix the first flat.=0A> I did the second one and it is working f ine.=0A> =0A> I haven't tried to T.O. or land with the flat.=0A> =0A> Do yo u have tubes or tubeless?=0A> =0A> I had two flats with the tubes that came with the wheels from Zenith.=0A> My shop ordered two new tubes for me and they seem to be much better.- The=0A> next time I get a flat I will conve rt to tubeless though.=0A> =0A> =0A> Randall J. Hebert=0A> N7701P=0A> =0A> -----Original Message-----=0A> From: owner-zenith701801-list-server@matroni cs.com=0A> [mailto:owner-zenith701801-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan Wilde=0A> Sent: Monday, January 20, 2014 4:21 PM=0A> To: Zenith70180 1-List@matronics.com=0A> Subject: Zenith701801-List: Flat tire on landing pilot.wilde@gmail.com>=0A> =0A> Yesterday I went for a pleasant flight and landed at two airports before=0A> heading home to my dirt/grass strip.- I landed fine and continued taxiing to=0A> my shop.- The longer I taxied t he more power I needed.- I knew right away=0A> that the tire must have go ne flat but since it was only a few feet to my=0A> shop I finished moving i t before stopping.- The tire was totally flat but I=0A> think that if I h ad needed to, I could have taken off and landed safely on=0A> the flat tire .- Has anyone had to do this?=0A> =0A> Because I have had trouble in the past removing the tire from the wheel, I=0A> went to Harbor Fright and purc hased a bead breaker for $49.99.- This was one=0A> of the best investment s I have ever made.- The tire was off the rim if less=0A> than 5 minutes. - In the past using just hand tools, I had struggled for 3=0A> hours to g et the tire off the rim.- Typically the quality of tools from=0A> there i s marginal but since I will only use this once in a great while, it=0A> sho uld last and at this price I could not resist.=0A> =0A> Dan=0A> =0A> =0A> ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 03:37:14 PM PST US Subject: Re: Zenith701801-List: Flat tire on landing From: Frank Thanks for the info Doug. I'll try it. Saves weight and money Frank Sent from my iPhone On Jan 20, 2014, at 5:32 PM, MacDonald Doug wrote: > For those who are having trouble with the Matco tubeless tires leaking air at the split rim, I have found that if you coat the o-ring at the split in t he rim with spray lithium grease the leaks go away. Might be worth spraying the o-rings the next time you have you wheels apart. > > When I first installed the nose wheel on my 701 I had a slow leak which fl attened the tire over the course of a couple of weeks. The spray grease on t he o-ring fixed it right up. After greasing all of my wheel o-rings I might put a little air in my tires once a year (three frigid Canadian winters lat er). > > Doug M > CH 701 in NW Ontario, Canada > > > > On Monday, January 20, 2014 4:54:13 PM, Frank wr ote: > > Randel, > I have the tubeless tires that came > With my 701 kit-- pretty but I have to air them up about every 2 or 3 week s. > Not much of a problem but i plan to put tubes in them the weather gets bet ter. > Frank > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Jan 20, 2014, at 4:36 PM, "Randall Hebert" wr ote: > tassoc.com> > > > > Dan I too bought the bead breaker from HF. It came in very handy since m y > > local repair shop charged $25 to fix the first flat. > > I did the second one and it is working fine. > > > > I haven't tried to T.O. or land with the flat. > > > > Do you have tubes or tubeless? > > > > I had two flats with the tubes that came with the wheels from Zenith. > > My shop ordered two new tubes for me and they seem to be much better. T he > > next time I get a flat I will convert to tubeless though. > > > > > > Randall J. Hebert > > N7701P > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: owner-zenith701801-list-server@matronics.com > > [mailto:owner-zenith701801-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Dan W ilde > > Sent: Monday, January 20, 2014 4:21 PM > > To: Zenith701801-List@matronics.com > > Subject: Zenith701801-List: Flat tire on landing > > > > --> > > > > Yesterday I went for a pleasant flight and landed at two airports before > > heading home to my dirt/grass strip. I landed fine and continued taxiin g to > > my shop. The longer I taxied the more power I needed. I knew right awa y > > that the tire must have gone flat but since it was only a few feet to my > > shop I finished moving it before stopping. The tire was totally flat bu t I > > think that if I had needed to, I could have taken off and landed safely o n > > the flat tire. Has anyone had to do this? > > > > Because I have had trouble in the past removing the tire from the wheel, I > > went to Harbor Fright and purchased a bead breaker for $49.99. This was one > > of the best investments I have ever made. The tire was off the rim if l ess > > than 5 minutes. In the past using just hand tools, I had struggled for 3 > > hours to get the tire off the rim. Typically the quality of tools from > > there is marginal but since I will only use this once in a great while, i t > > should last and at this price I could not resist. > > > > Dan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= ========================== ========= > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Other Matronics Email List Services ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Post A New Message zenith701801-list@matronics.com UN/SUBSCRIBE http://www.matronics.com/subscription List FAQ http://www.matronics.com/FAQ/Zenith701801-List.htm Web Forum Interface To Lists http://forums.matronics.com Matronics List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com Full Archive Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search 7-Day List Browse http://www.matronics.com/browse/zenith701801-list Browse Digests http://www.matronics.com/digest/zenith701801-list Browse Other Lists http://www.matronics.com/browse Live Online Chat! http://www.matronics.com/chat Archive Downloading http://www.matronics.com/archives Photo Share http://www.matronics.com/photoshare Other Email Lists http://www.matronics.com/emaillists Contributions http://www.matronics.com/contribution ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- These Email List Services are sponsored solely by Matronics and through the generous Contributions of its members.