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2. 09:40 AM - Re: Need help & consuling on Rivet puller (KMHeide, BA, CPO, FAAOP)
3. 12:21 PM - Re: Need help & consuling on Rivet puller (JIm Smith)
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| Subject: | Need help & consuling on Rivet puller |
When I first started looking for a rivet puller, I shied away from the gun that
was being offered by Zenith because I had heard from builders on this List, that
there was many instances of cracking in the casings. As a replacement I decided
to go with a gun that was being offered by ACS ( see pic below ) however
it is starting to look like this was not my best decision.
I had difficulty with the setup instructions ( Chinese instructions ) and for the
life of me I still have not been able to get the oil level correct. The instructions
state that the unit should be filled with oil up to the top of the frame,
without showing where exactly what they consider as being the top or the
exact filling level is.
My second mistake was purchasing two guns so as not to have to continually swap
out the two tips. As it stands, when I do get one of the (at)#$%&* things to
work, it won't pull more then a dozen or so rivets, before me being obliged to
open up the air cylinder and start fidgeting with the oil level again.
I am basically a neat person, and I can't live with the constant spewing of oil
out the front, or the back stem catcher, and ending up on my freshly made parts,
or my work table for that matter. I am now in the process of trying to look
for a replacement, but all the suppliers seem to have the same low cost gun.
The list of resellers I checked with is rather extensive and includes, but is
not limited to, The Yard, ATS, Browns, Cleavland, US Tools, all registered trademarks
etc, and a few more I will not mention.
My question to the List is this, is the rivet gun being sold by all of these suppliers
the same gun. I have looked as best as I can, and every last one is showing
what looks to be the exact same unit on their web-page, with the only difference
being the color or the pricing. The cases are identical, the same tips,
the same nose pieces, hell they even the same triggering mechanism, and the
only difference so far is prices, that are anywhere between 40$, to a 140$.
For those of you who have used any of the above guns, are you aware of any difference
in quality of these guns, or is it a " find the peanut under the shell
" type of situation for me to get a proper replacement that will work,
Thank's to all of you who will take the time to respond to my concerns.
Bob, the 701 & 750 Scratch
Three Rivers , Quebec.
7-7143 & 7-75???
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| Subject: | Re: Need help & consuling on Rivet puller |
Bob,
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I have purchased the gun from Zenith and have never had any problems with i
t. Expensive?....yes but I wanted to make sure I had the right force when p
ulling rivets.
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I have recently purchased a blue colored pneumatic inexpensive rivet gun fr
om Harbor Freight tools that works as good if not better than the big yello
w Zenith gun! I have purchased two of them which were recommend from anothe
r aircraft building site. I also made the heads similar to the rivet heads
from Zenith and switch gun regularly between different size rivets. I have
had no problems with these guns and they are a few years old already.
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3/16" AIR HYDRAULIC RIVETER
Central Pneumatic
93458-1VGA
$29.99
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KMHeide
Fargo, ND
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--- On Mon, 1/12/09, stepinwolf <robert.pelland@cgocable.ca> wrote:
From: stepinwolf <robert.pelland@cgocable.ca>
Subject: Zenith750-List: Need help & consuling on Rivet puller
<robert.pelland@cgocable.ca>
When I first started looking for a rivet puller, I shied away from the gun
that
was being offered by Zenith because I had heard from builders on this List,
that
there was many instances of cracking in the casings. As a replacement I dec
ided
to go with a gun that was being offered by ACS ( see pic below ) however it
is
starting to look like this was not my best decision.
I had difficulty with the setup instructions ( Chinese instructions ) and f
or
the life of me I still have not been able to get the oil level correct. The
instructions state that the unit should be filled with oil up to the top of
the
frame, without showing where exactly what they consider as being the top or
the
exact filling level is.
My second mistake was purchasing two guns so as not to have to continually
swap
out the two tips. As it stands, when I do get one of the (at)#$%&* things t
o
work, it won't pull more then a dozen or so rivets, before me being obliged
to open up the air cylinder and start fidgeting with the oil level again.
I am basically a neat person, and I can't live with the constant spewing of
oil out the front, or the back stem catcher, and ending up on my freshly ma
de
parts, or my work table for that matter. I am now in the process of trying
to
look for a replacement, but all the suppliers seem to have the same low cos
t
gun. The list of resellers I checked with is rather extensive and includes,
but
is not limited to, The Yard, ATS, Browns, Cleavland, US Tools, all register
ed
trademarks etc, and a few more I will not mention.
My question to the List is this, is the rivet gun being sold by all of thes
e
suppliers the same gun. I have looked as best as I can, and every last one
is
showing what looks to be the exact same unit on their web-page, with the on
ly
difference being the color or the pricing. The cases are identical, the sam
e
tips, the same nose pieces, hell they even the same triggering mechanism, a
nd
the only difference so far is prices, that are anywhere between 40$, to a 1
40$.
For those of you who have used any of the above guns, are you aware of any
difference in quality of these guns, or is it a " find the peanut under the
shell " type of situation for me to get a proper replacement that will
work,
Thank's to all of you who will take the time to respond to my concerns.
Bob, the 701 & 750 Scratch
Three Rivers , Quebec.
7-7143 & 7-75???
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| Subject: | Re: Need help & consuling on Rivet puller |
I got whatever gun came with the Zenith tool kit. It requires no oil
and has been trouble free through about 3,000 rivets. Are you sure
they're all the same?
Jim Smith
Claremore, Oklahoma
On Jan 12, 2009, at 10:18 AM, stepinwolf wrote:
> >
>
> When I first started looking for a rivet puller, I shied away from
> the gun that was being offered by Zenith because I had heard from
> builders on this List, that there was many instances of cracking in
> the casings. As a replacement I decided to go with a gun that was
> being offered by ACS ( see pic below ) however it is starting to
> look like this was not my best decision.
>
> I had difficulty with the setup instructions ( Chinese
> instructions ) and for the life of me I still have not been able to
> get the oil level correct. The instructions state that the unit
> should be filled with oil up to the top of the frame, without
> showing where exactly what they consider as being the top or the
> exact filling level is.
>
> My second mistake was purchasing two guns so as not to have to
> continually swap out the two tips. As it stands, when I do get one
> of the (at)#$%&* things to work, it won't pull more then a dozen or
> so rivets, before me being obliged to open up the air cylinder and
> start fidgeting with the oil level again.
>
> I am basically a neat person, and I can't live with the constant
> spewing of oil out the front, or the back stem catcher, and ending
> up on my freshly made parts, or my work table for that matter. I am
> now in the process of trying to look for a replacement, but all the
> suppliers seem to have the same low cost gun. The list of resellers
> I checked with is rather extensive and includes, but is not limited
> to, The Yard, ATS, Browns, Cleavland, US Tools, all registered
> trademarks etc, and a few more I will not mention.
>
> My question to the List is this, is the rivet gun being sold by all
> of these suppliers the same gun. I have looked as best as I can, and
> every last one is showing what looks to be the exact same unit on
> their web-page, with the only difference being the color or the
> pricing. The cases are identical, the same tips, the same nose
> pieces, hell they even the same triggering mechanism, and the only
> difference so far is prices, that are anywhere between 40$, to a 140$.
>
> For those of you who have used any of the above guns, are you aware
> of any difference in quality of these guns, or is it a " find the
> peanut under the shell " type of situation for me to get a proper
> replacement that will work,
>
> Thank's to all of you who will take the time to respond to my
> concerns.
> Bob, the 701 & 750 Scratch
> Three Rivers , Quebec.
> 7-7143 & 7-75???
>
> --------
> Live each day, as if it was your last
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=224232#224232
>
>
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> http://forums.matronics.com//files/rivet_gun_964.jpg
>
>
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