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Ted French

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 54
Location: Kelowna BC Canada

Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 9:50 am Post subject: Top skin removal

 

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   I'm    thinking of drilling off the top skin to give better access to the behind the    panel work. Has anyone done this or is there some reason why it would not make    life a lot easier for wiring and equipment installations.

    

   My    back hurts just thinking about the work that would need to be done while lying    under the panel.

    

      

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Ted French 

RV-10  fuselage

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rick.conti(at)boeing.com
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Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 10:03 am Post subject: Top skin removal

My guess is that skin is crucial to holding the plane together.  What else is there above the sidewall between the firewall baggage bulkhead?  

   



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From: Ted on RV list [mailto:ted_french(at)telus.net] 

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I'm thinking of drilling off the top skin to give better access to the behind the panel work. Has anyone done this or is there some reason why it would not make life a lot easier for wiring and equipment installations.  

    

   

    

My back hurts just thinking about the work that would need to be done while lying under the panel.  

    

   

    

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Ted French 

 RV-10  fuselage

BSchroeder(at)uta.cog.ut.
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Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 10:21 am Post subject: Top skin removal

I’ve been wondering the same thing. I believe I saw the folks in “From The Ground UP” do that kind of thing. They built a quick build RV-8 and that was his answer to that. Also, here in salt lake city, there are a couple of Stewart P-51’s that addressed this issue similarly, mostly because they is no other way gain access behind the panel, unless I can get my 2 year old grandson to do it.  

   

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BSchroeder(at)uta.cog.ut.
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Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 10:37 am Post subject: Top skin removal

   

I hope that the file isn’t too large. This is a picture of one of the Stewart mustangs and if you look just in front of the wind screen you can see the access panel. I think if there are no structural problems, I would like too have access to the back of my panel like that. I also, hate to work under a panel, when there could be a better way to do it.  

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dlm46007(at)cox.net
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Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 10:38 am Post subject: Top skin removal

The trick is planning the panel. Either use the  panel cutout methods or cut and prepare a panel off the airplane. Then a single  insert of the panel will be easy. Of course you have to know the how and where  of the wring , including the wiring through the firewall. 

  

 Also the QB fuselage is in place with temporary  rivets and was intended to be removed from the fuselage for control system and  other installations

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jhasbrouck(at)woh.rr.com
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Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 11:09 am Post subject: Top skin removal

Not having arrived at this point yet I  can't answer the original question but I'll add a question of my own.  With  the wiring completed and the avionics installed can you get access to re-rivet  the top skin back on?

  

 John Hasbrouck

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BSchroeder(at)uta.cog.ut.
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Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 12:37 pm Post subject: Top skin removal

What about a removable panel, like the access panel under the wing, weatherstripped, of course, for future access?  

   

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BSchroeder(at)uta.cog.ut.
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Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 12:37 pm Post subject: Top skin removal

Sorry I was thinking of something else.  

   

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effectus(at)rogers.com
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Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 1:02 pm Post subject: Top skin removal

This is what Dan Checkoway did on his RV-7. He cut 2 access panels into the  upper portion of that panel and raved about how glad he was that he did  it.

  

 Dave Hertner

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rv10es(at)earthlink.net
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Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 1:27 pm Post subject: Top skin removal

I have a slow built fuselage and am really happy to have the area accessible for the wiring.  In fact, I just riveted the top skin on today after having competed AND tested the wiring.  I wish that there was a way to have access panels cut into the top panel for future maintenance.  Since the wind screen projects so much forward onto the top skin, any access panel would have limited use.

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On Mar 3, 2006, at 12:48 PM, Ted on RV list wrote:

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		  Listers

 

I'm thinking of drilling off the top skin to give better access to the behind the panel work. Has anyone done this or is there some reason why it would not make life a lot easier for wiring and equipment installations.

 

My back hurts just thinking about the work that would need to be done while lying under the panel.

 



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Ted French RV-10  fuselage

dav1111(at)cox.net
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Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 3:11 pm Post subject: Top skin removal

I will attempt to answer both Ted's and John's  question concerning the to skin and ribs above the panel (There questions are  set out below).

  

 Unless you have glassed in the windshield  there is no problem drilling out the top skin above the panel and  re-riveting it back on after the canopy is attached. 

 A more detailed example is given below Ted and  John's questions.

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carl.froehlich(at)cox.net
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Posted: Fri Mar 03, 2006 3:21 pm Post subject: Top skin removal

A removable panel is  the only way to go.  Do all the panel interconnection  wiring, anything leaving the panel is via  Molex plugs.  This is what I did in my RV-8A, and will do in my  RV-10.

  

 In the 4 years of flying  the RV-8A, I have had the panel out a half dozen times.  I have never had  to do the "on your back"  thing.

  

 Carl Froehlich



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