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fasilpereira

Joined: 17 Jul 2011
Posts: 86
Location: Brazil

Posted: Mon Apr 06, 2015 6:04 am Post subject: Door Seal

I'd like to know what kind of door sear you guys use on the TR-4 main doors.

Thanks,



Fabricio

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mark_trickel

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Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 5:45 am Post subject: Re: Door Seal

Oi Fabricio,



Most builders are using weather strip commonly found at the local home center or hardware store. There are a variety of sizes, and shapes that will fill the gap between the door, and door opening. Attached is the weather strip used on my KIS TR-1. It has been in place for more than 20 years and seems to be holding up.



You also asked about a cad drawing by Vance – you can find it here at the remains of Vance’s website that somehow still exists in the cyber world. There is a lot of information here but some pages, and photos are missing.

http://www.oocities.org/vjaqua



ALL KIS OWNERS - note in newsletter #20. I am finding that not all builders made this important modification:



TWO PLACE AND FOUR PLACE DOOR OPENING REINFORCEMENTS.

To add stiffness and strength around the lower corner of the door openings, an added reinforcing lamination of glass plies is recommended. While this is not a flight safety item, these added plies will reduce cabin shake during engine start and idle. This will also add significant stiffening in case you have a similar hapless incident like the pre Christmas excursion of the prototype Cruiser, which ended up on it's roof after an engine failure and forced landing in a muddy field. To maximize the effectiveness of this lay-up, bridge the gap between the end of the top stiffener "hat" section, and the lower fuselage longitudinal "rail" with scrap foam and dry MICRO. Use a generous (thumb size) fillet on any inside angle intersections . Make up a four ply BID prelam about 5 inches wide and about 8 inches tall , and apply to each of these 4 locations.

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bakerocb

Joined: 15 Jan 2006
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Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 12:02 pm Post subject: Door Seal

4/10/2015



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I'd like to know what kind of door sear you guys use on the TR-4 main doors.

Thanks,



Fabricio



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Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 4:41 pm Post subject: Door Seal

Also comes in black which I am using.  I stuck the weather seal on the door and not the opening so it would be out of the way when entering and leaving the cockpit.



To seal the bottom edge of the doors you will need a larger type weatherstrip.

Al

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Posted: Fri Apr 10, 2015 6:48 pm Post subject: Door Seal

I just did a flox/micro release between the bottom of the door and the fuselage.   No detectable air leakage and no water leakage even in a downpour.

Scott



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On Apr 10, 2015, at 5:41 PM, Alfred Rosa <fredorosa(at)gmail.com (fredorosa(at)gmail.com)> wrote:

[quote]Also comes in black which I am using.  I stuck the weather seal on the door and not the opening so it would be out of the way when entering and leaving the cockpit.



To seal the bottom edge of the doors you will need a larger type weatherstrip.

Al

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 I'd like to know what kind of door sear you guys use on the TR-4 main doors.

 Thanks,

 

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fasilpereira

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Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2015 4:11 am Post subject: Re: Door Seal

Scott, do you have a picture of that?

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Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2015 1:56 pm Post subject: Door Seal

I used Frost King V25W EPDM weather stripping. It is very inexpensive, seals well and fairly long lasting.

http://www.amazon.com/Frost-King-V25W-Weather-Strip-Inch-by1/dp/B000B4N3OA

The glue they have doesn't work well so I use silicone sealer as the glue. Holds it tight but you can remove it later if needed. 

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 Hello Fabricio, Shop for M-D Products 02576 white P profile tape.

 

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 Sent: Monday, April 06, 2015 10:04 AM

 To: kis-list(at)matronics.com (kis-list(at)matronics.com)

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 I'd like to know what kind of door sear you guys use on the TR-4 main doors.

 Thanks,

 

 Fabricio

 

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Posted: Sat Apr 11, 2015 2:30 pm Post subject: Door Seal

I used a seal from aircraft door seals, it looks like foam weather  stripping, but it takes a set after you close the doors, and varies in thickness  to fill discrepancies in the door to frame gap.

  

 Been very satisfied.

  

 www.aircraftdoorseals.com.

    

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   I used Frost King V25W EPDM weather stripping. It is very inexpensive,  seals well and fairly long lasting.

  

 http://www.amazon.com/Frost-King-V25W-Weather-Strip-Inch-by1/dp/B000B4N3OA

  

 The glue they have doesn't work well so I use silicone sealer as the glue.  Holds it tight but you can remove it later if needed. 



   

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Hello Fabricio,    Shop for M-D Products 02576 white P profile    tape.



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I'd like to know what kind    of door sear you guys use on the TR-4 main    doors.

Thanks,



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