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 Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 2:18 pm Post subject: Incredible Day at Green Landings |
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Hi everybody,
Update on my big day:
Although I bought a Lightning kit and have been in
the build process for quite a while now, I never had
seen the Lightning fly and have never flown one. I
based my purchase on blind trust, something rare these
days. I had a really good feeling about the plane's
capabilities and was also heavily sold on the BRS
parachute capability, cruise speed and fuel economy.
The prototype couldn't carry passengers when I was
airplane shopping last year, and I missed hte fly-by
at Sun n Fun last year.
While waiting for Ryan Gross (owner of Green
Landings) to return to the grass strip at Green
Landings (he had gone to another airport to give a
demo ride), I heard a plane in the distance. By the
looks of the tail, it appeared to be a Cessna. As it
got closer, it got much faster and I realized it was
Ryan in the Green Landings Lightning. From the ground,
I was blown away by the aerial maneuvers, speed and
handling of the plane. 90 degress banks looked split
second and rolls looked like they only took a second.
Ryan then did a high-speed fly by at an incredible
clip. I kept thinking the whole time "Is this plane
really doing all this on only 125 Horsepower?!".
The plane far exceeds my expectations of what I
expected. Not only am I getting a safe plane with a
parachute, I am getting a fast and fuel efficient
plane. One new adjective to describe what I am getting
is aerobatic. This word was never in my vocabulary
when shopping for a plane. It adds tremendous value to
the plane. I kept thinking that the Lightning looked
like an Extra 300 by the way it was flying. I knew it
would have some aerobatic capabilities but I never
expected to be comparing it to an Extra.
The workmanship on my plane currently in
construction is absolutely top notch. I recommend
Green Landings to any future Lightning owners. Just so
you know- THIS IS AN UNSOLICITED ENDORSEMNT- I was not
asked by Green Landings to make this posting and I am
not on anybody's payroll relevant to the Lightning
aircraft.
By the way, I did fly with Ryan after he landed,
and we did some of the smae maneuvers. I did only one
roll in my life and that was in a Glasair III. The
Lightning rolls much faster. I haven't done any flying
since August so I really couldn't stomach the G
forces, so we had to come down. ALl in all, a great
day. Oh, by the way, I was amazed at how well the
Lightning does on grass WITH the wheel fairings-
something I thought wouldn't work well at all.
Can't wait to be flying my Own Lightning and
spread the fun around. Charles
--- nick otterback <vettin74(at)yahoo.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Brian should be ready... working out a spinnenr
balance issue wll let you know before i leave.
Nick
Brian Whittingham <dashvii(at)hotmail.com> wrote:
Whittingham"
Nick, or other guys in the know,
I'm back in town now and ready to work on flying the
time off of Rick's
plane. I can be down there tomorrow if the plane is
ready, got the bugs
worked out, etc. I don't want to drive an hour and a
half though if you
guys are doing a head torque or something. Let me
know. Brian Whittingham
From: "Rick Bowen"
Reply-To: lightning-list(at)matronics.com
To: lightning-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Lightning desktop model...
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 14:01:00 +0000
Well,
I am not going to tell you that you may find a
cheaper source for the
desktop models, but here is a pic of a Titan that
Bill did.....looks pretty
good to me.
If anyone is still interested, I need ONE more
person to commit to ordering
a Lightning...Bill is located in Noth Carolina, is a
fellow pilot, and I
think would make us some nice Lightning models.
Up to you guys, I do not want to start a "we can get
a desktop here, or
here,"etc....Just did a bit of looking and thought I
would pass it on.
Again, I have never done any business with him, but
I will get a model too
if we can get the needed 5.
Thanks all,
Rick
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dashvii(at)hotmail.com
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| Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 2:33 pm Post subject: Incredible Day at Green Landings |
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So Charles,
Mine and Buz's unsolicited accounts were pretty accurate then you'd say?
 I think a good product will sale itself by word of mouth and people
gaining confidence that it will do what is advertised. For me the one thing
that comes to mind if I had to describe it is "Fun" to the max. Really glad
to get the chance to fly several of them. Hope your plane turns out as good
as the others. Be sure to update us with pics once she's painted and mostly
assembeled. Brian W.
From: Charles Dewey <cdewey6969(at)yahoo.com>
Reply-To: lightning-list(at)matronics.com
To: lightning-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Incredible Day at Green Landings
Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 15:17:25 -0700 (PDT)
Hi everybody,
Update on my big day:
Although I bought a Lightning kit and have been in
the build process for quite a while now, I never had
seen the Lightning fly and have never flown one. I
based my purchase on blind trust, something rare these
days. I had a really good feeling about the plane's
capabilities and was also heavily sold on the BRS
parachute capability, cruise speed and fuel economy.
The prototype couldn't carry passengers when I was
airplane shopping last year, and I missed hte fly-by
at Sun n Fun last year.
While waiting for Ryan Gross (owner of Green
Landings) to return to the grass strip at Green
Landings (he had gone to another airport to give a
demo ride), I heard a plane in the distance. By the
looks of the tail, it appeared to be a Cessna. As it
got closer, it got much faster and I realized it was
Ryan in the Green Landings Lightning. From the ground,
I was blown away by the aerial maneuvers, speed and
handling of the plane. 90 degress banks looked split
second and rolls looked like they only took a second.
Ryan then did a high-speed fly by at an incredible
clip. I kept thinking the whole time "Is this plane
really doing all this on only 125 Horsepower?!".
The plane far exceeds my expectations of what I
expected. Not only am I getting a safe plane with a
parachute, I am getting a fast and fuel efficient
plane. One new adjective to describe what I am getting
is aerobatic. This word was never in my vocabulary
when shopping for a plane. It adds tremendous value to
the plane. I kept thinking that the Lightning looked
like an Extra 300 by the way it was flying. I knew it
would have some aerobatic capabilities but I never
expected to be comparing it to an Extra.
The workmanship on my plane currently in
construction is absolutely top notch. I recommend
Green Landings to any future Lightning owners. Just so
you know- THIS IS AN UNSOLICITED ENDORSEMNT- I was not
asked by Green Landings to make this posting and I am
not on anybody's payroll relevant to the Lightning
aircraft.
By the way, I did fly with Ryan after he landed,
and we did some of the smae maneuvers. I did only one
roll in my life and that was in a Glasair III. The
Lightning rolls much faster. I haven't done any flying
since August so I really couldn't stomach the G
forces, so we had to come down. ALl in all, a great
day. Oh, by the way, I was amazed at how well the
Lightning does on grass WITH the wheel fairings-
something I thought wouldn't work well at all.
Can't wait to be flying my Own Lightning and
spread the fun around. Charles
--- nick otterback <vettin74(at)yahoo.com> wrote:
> Brian should be ready... working out a spinnenr
> balance issue wll let you know before i leave.
>
> Nick
>
> Brian Whittingham <dashvii(at)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> Whittingham"
>
> Nick, or other guys in the know,
> I'm back in town now and ready to work on flying the
> time off of Rick's
> plane. I can be down there tomorrow if the plane is
> ready, got the bugs
> worked out, etc. I don't want to drive an hour and a
> half though if you
> guys are doing a head torque or something. Let me
> know. Brian Whittingham
>
>
> From: "Rick Bowen"
> Reply-To: lightning-list(at)matronics.com
> To: lightning-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Lightning desktop model...
> Date: Mon, 12 Mar 2007 14:01:00 +0000
>
> Well,
> I am not going to tell you that you may find a
> cheaper source for the
> desktop models, but here is a pic of a Titan that
> Bill did.....looks pretty
> good to me.
>
> If anyone is still interested, I need ONE more
> person to commit to ordering
> a Lightning...Bill is located in Noth Carolina, is a
> fellow pilot, and I
> think would make us some nice Lightning models.
>
> Up to you guys, I do not want to start a "we can get
> a desktop here, or
> here,"etc....Just did a bit of looking and thought I
> would pass it on.
> Again, I have never done any business with him, but
> I will get a model too
> if we can get the needed 5.
>
> Thanks all,
> Rick
>
>
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| Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 5:07 pm Post subject: Incredible Day at Green Landings |
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Hey Charles,
Good report, and I am glad you are enjoying your Lightning build and your flight with Ryan. Now you know what we have been "grinning ear to ear" about. But if you are not careful, the secret will get out and everyone will want one. Just kidding of course, but do be careful about comparing it to an Extra (or any other aerobatic aircraft for that matter). Even though they may look somewhat similar, the Extra is designed to be an Unlimited Class aerobatic airplane. In the right pilot's hands, it competes and wins at the World Class level in aerobatic contest. In addition to the plus and minus "Gs" that it has been test flown to, it also has a much higher Va. The Lightning is advertised to not be an aerobatic airplane and I think we all know that for insurance purposes (both the designers and yours) that is best. Sure, you can get away with steep turns and aileron rolls (and such) but that certainly does not make an aerobatic aircraft. I don't want to slow down your enthusiasm, it is great, I just don't want the wrong idea to get out about what the Lightning is designed for. I have hesitated about sending this and taking a chance of dampening your enthusiasm, but I guess the bottom line is we both think the Lightning is an outstanding airplane for the mission profile that it was designed to meet. Add to that the quick build time and economical operation and the Lightning is definitely a winner.
Blue Skies,
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pequeajim
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| Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 6:16 pm Post subject: Incredible Day at Green Landings |
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Charles:
Glad to hear that you like the aircraft so much. Ryan was just coming back
from giving me a demo. What a nice flying airplane! Unlike you though, I
was depressed after my flight. It was because I like the airplane so much
but just do not quite fit like I would like. I'm 6'1" with a torso of a
6'4" guy and shoulders like a linebacker, so I had to tilt my head slightly
to keep from resting it against the canopy glass.
I will say that the Lightning is very easy to fly but responsive too. Nice
aircraft. The 3300 got us off the runway in short order with me sitting in
there at 265 lbs, no problem.
Guys, you have a very nice aircraft. I just wish it was about 3-4" wider up
top.
Best of luck to you Charles, you're gonna love it!
Jim!
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| Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 6:36 pm Post subject: Incredible Day at Green Landings |
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Jim,
Don't give up just yet. The latest kits give more head room and more hip room. Nick designed a new molded seat pan to give more head room and narrowed the center console for the extra hip width. I am 6'2" and 215 to 225 depending on the time of the year. (I seem to gain weight in the winter even though I really don't hibernate.) And if you haven't met John Davis, he is a big boy, and seems to have no problems. So bottom line is: You really need to sit in one of the new Lightnings. The soon to be completed demonstrator will have the new seat set up. See it at Sun-N-Fun. For those of you with the older seat set up, you can order an upgrade "seat kit" from the SYI guys.
Buz
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pequeajim
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| Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 7:07 pm Post subject: Incredible Day at Green Landings |
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Boy Buzz… It would have to be at least three or so inches wider for me to be comfortable. I wish there was one close where I could try it. I’m ready to pull the trigger on an aircraft.
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Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 10:36 PM
To: lightning-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Lightning-List: Incredible Day at Green Landings
Jim,
Don't give up just yet. The latest kits give more head room and more hip room. Nick designed a new molded seat pan to give more head room and narrowed the center console for the extra hip width. I am 6'2" and 215 to 225 depending on the time of the year. (I seem to gain weight in the winter even though I really don't hibernate.) And if you haven't met John Davis, he is a big boy, and seems to have no problems. So bottom line is: You really need to sit in one of the new Lightnings. The soon to be completed demonstrator will have the new seat set up. See it at Sun-N-Fun. For those of you with the older seat set up, you can order an upgrade "seat kit" from the SYI guys.
Buz
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| Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 8:26 pm Post subject: Incredible Day at Green Landings |
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Jim, Thanks for the words of encouragement. DOn't give
up on the lIghtning, as the new seat will be deeper
and easily accomodate you. Charles
--- Jim Langley <pequeajim(at)gmail.com> wrote:
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<pequeajim(at)gmail.com>
Charles:
Glad to hear that you like the aircraft so much.
Ryan was just coming back
from giving me a demo. What a nice flying airplane!
Unlike you though, I
was depressed after my flight. It was because I
like the airplane so much
but just do not quite fit like I would like. I'm
6'1" with a torso of a
6'4" guy and shoulders like a linebacker, so I had
to tilt my head slightly
to keep from resting it against the canopy glass.
I will say that the Lightning is very easy to fly
but responsive too. Nice
aircraft. The 3300 got us off the runway in short
order with me sitting in
there at 265 lbs, no problem.
Guys, you have a very nice aircraft. I just wish it
was about 3-4" wider up
top.
Best of luck to you Charles, you're gonna love it!
Jim!
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| Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 3:23 am Post subject: Incredible Day at Green Landings |
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Jim,
There is more seat and headroom to be had than in our demonstrator. It is the old style seat pans that were modified by me, but there is more room there. I havent talked to Ryan yet, but if you were in the passenger seat there was less yet. It is still the old style console and not the dished seat pans.
We have done little to the demo plane beyond getting it flying because of the backed up build projects of both SkyRangers and Lightnings.
After the two current ones are finished, we may be able to do some modifying and give you another run at it.
Doug Koenigsberg
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Boy Buzz… It would have to be at least three or so inches wider for me to be comfortable. I wish there was one close where I could try it. I’m ready to pull the trigger on an aircraft.
From: owner-lightning-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of N1BZRich(at)aol.com
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 10:36 PM
To: lightning-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: Incredible Day at Green Landings
Jim,
Don't give up just yet. The latest kits give more head room and more hip room. Nick designed a new molded seat pan to give more head room and narrowed the center console for the extra hip width. I am 6'2" and 215 to 225 depending on the time of the year. (I seem to gain weight in the winter even though I really don't hibernate.) And if you haven't met John Davis, he is a big boy, and seems to have no problems. So bottom line is: You really need to sit in one of the new Lightnings. The soon to be completed demonstrator will have the new seat set up. See it at Sun-N-Fun. For those of you with the older seat set up, you can order an upgrade "seat kit" from the SYI guys.
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