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		pequeajim
 
 
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				 Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 6:49 am    Post subject: Camloc frustration | 
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				Do any of you have Camloc frustration?  
    
 What do you do on the Lightning to keep from losing Camlocs when removing the cowl?  
    
 I understand that Spruce sells retaining rings/washers?  Does this work with the Lightning cowl?  
    
 Jim!  
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		155LT
 
 
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				 Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 8:40 am    Post subject: Camloc frustration | 
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				I have the retaining rings on my camloc’s and they work fine.  Good luck  
      
 John Davis  
   
          
   
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  Subject: Camloc frustration  
   
    
 Do any of you have Camloc frustration?  
    
 What do you do on the Lightning to keep from losing Camlocs when removing the cowl?  
    
 I understand that Spruce sells retaining rings/washers?  Does this work with the Lightning cowl?  
    
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		pennington(at)q.com Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 11:48 am    Post subject: Camloc frustration | 
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				<?xml:namespace prefix="v" /><?xml:namespace prefix="o" /><![endif]-->  Hello Jim
   
  First, congrats on the inspection. Your airplane is a show stopper!
   
  I do not have experience with the brand of Cam Locks used on Lightings, but  the Cam Locks used on my other two airplanes were a pain in the $(at)&!. I  finally removed all of them on both planes and installed nut plates on the lower  half of the cowling and used stainless steel machine screws with rubber  backed metal washer on the outside of the top half of the cowling. It was much  faster and less frustrating and they never vibrated loose.
   
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		pequeajim
 
 
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				 Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 4:40 pm    Post subject: Camloc frustration | 
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				Thanks Gary for the ideas.  I guess as I fly the airplane, I will figure it out.  
    
 This list is great for these kind of things.  
    
 Jim!  
        
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  Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 3:46 PM
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  Subject: Re: Camloc frustration  
   
   
        
 Hello Jim  
     
    
     
 First, congrats on the inspection. Your airplane is a show stopper!  
     
    
     
 I do not have experience with the brand of Cam Locks used on Lightings, but the Cam Locks used on my other two airplanes were a pain in the $(at)&!. I finally removed all of them on both planes and installed nut plates on the lower half of the cowling and used stainless steel machine screws with rubber backed metal washer on the outside of the top half of the cowling. It was much faster and less frustrating and they never vibrated loose.  
     
    
     
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		N1BZRich(at)aol.com Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 5:49 pm    Post subject: Camloc frustration | 
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				Jim and all,
      Here is how I keep my CamLocs stored when I remove  the cowling.  We have also made one of these blocks for the prototype and  both demos.  
  Buz
 
 
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		pequeajim
 
 
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				 Posted: Sun Jul 13, 2008 6:02 pm    Post subject: Camloc frustration | 
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				Great idea Buz, thanks  
        
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 Jim and all,  
     
     Here is how I keep my CamLocs stored when I remove the cowling.  We have also made one of these blocks for the prototype and both demos.    
     
 Buz  
   
   
 
  
          
   
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				 Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 4:22 am    Post subject: Camloc frustration | 
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				Jim,
   
  We  drill all of our Camlocs holes in the cowl out to 5/16" and physically remove  the camlocs from the cowl. Thanks to Buz we place the Camlocs in the  block.
   
  I've  found, as you and many others have, that Camlocs fall out at the most  inopportune times (i.e. in the grass, gravel, etc.) Also, it makes removing the  upper cowl much easier, especially up by the last Camlocs next to the  spinner.
   
  Mark
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		pequeajim
 
 
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				 Posted: Mon Jul 14, 2008 6:30 am    Post subject: Camloc frustration | 
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				Tanks Mark.  
    
 In the long run, this may be the best solution as when taking the top cowl off, I never get all of the Camloc studs out all the way and then the cowl sticks.  It might be better to just take them out each time.  I guess we’ll see which way I like things best over time.  
    
 I’m looking forward to seeing you guys again on Friday.  
    
 Jim!  
        
 From: owner-lightning-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-lightning-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mark Stauffer
  Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 8:19 AM
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  Subject: RE: Camloc frustration  
   
   
      
 Jim,  
     
    
     
 We drill all of our Camlocs holes in the cowl out to 5/16" and physically remove the camlocs from the cowl. Thanks to Buz we place the Camlocs in the block.  
     
    
     
 I've found, as you and many others have, that Camlocs fall out at the most inopportune times (i.e. in the grass, gravel, etc.) Also, it makes removing the upper cowl much easier, especially up by the last Camlocs next to the spinner.  
     
    
     
 Mark  
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