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				 Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 12:04 pm    Post subject: best fuel economy | 
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				If you were to to choose a kit/plans based on the best fuel economy, what would you choose?  The KR-2S looks like it has the best at 30ish miles per gallon in cruise.  Are there any more fuel economic choices out there?
 
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		nwolfe(at)stealthturtle.c Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 1:07 pm    Post subject: best fuel economy | 
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				The Cozy IV is pretty good and quick to boot.
 
 -Nate
 
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  If you were to to choose a kit/plans based of the best fuel economy, what would you choose?  The KR-2S looks like it has the best at 30ish miles per gallon in cruise.  Are there any more fuel economic choices out there?
   
  
  
  
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		franz(at)lastfrontierheli Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 1:57 pm    Post subject: best fuel economy | 
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				There are many parameters that needs to be considered before a question like that can be answered. For instance: what would the application for the plane be, are ypou going to use for travel or recriation, how many seats do you need and so on and so fort,
  Franz
  
  
  On 23/06/08 2:04 PM, "Nathan Wolfe" <[url=nwolfe(at)stealthturtle.com]nwolfe(at)stealthturtle.com[/url]> wrote:
  
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  -Nate
  
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  If you were to to choose a kit/plans based of the best fuel economy, what would you choose?  The KR-2S looks like it has the best at 30ish miles per gallon in cruise.  Are there any more fuel economic choices out there?
  
  
  
  
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		gregoryf.flyboy(at)comcas Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 2:57 pm    Post subject: best fuel economy | 
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				 	  | Quote: | 	 		  If you were to to choose a kit/plans based of the best fuel economy, what
 would you choose?  The KR-2S looks like it has the best at 30ish miles per
 gallon in cruise.  Are there any more fuel economic choices out there?
 
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 The Europa and the Long-EZ can compete easily with that number. The Europa
 uses either the Rotax 912,912s, or 914 engine combo's. With the 912, it will
 do 50mph in economy mode. Not sure which engine the Long-EZ's use.
 
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		ceengland(at)bellsouth.ne Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 5:08 pm    Post subject: best fuel economy | 
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				Greg Fuchs (FB) wrote:
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 > If you were to to choose a kit/plans based of the best fuel economy, what
 > would you choose?  The KR-2S looks like it has the best at 30ish miles per
 > gallon in cruise.  Are there any more fuel economic choices out there?
 >     
 
  The Europa and the Long-EZ can compete easily with that number. The Europa
  uses either the Rotax 912,912s, or 914 engine combo's. With the 912, it will
  do 50mph in economy mode. Not sure which engine the Long-EZ's use. 
 
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 Most of the Van's RV-x line will do close to 30 statute miles per gallon 
 if you fly them at the lift/drag intersection, somewhere around 140 mph. 
 They will do it even with the big engines. You never hear about it 
 because most owners can't make themselves fly that slow when the plane 
 will cruise at close to 200 (where they get 18-20 mpg if you're up at 
 10-11k feet).
 
 They will probably cost a bit more to build than a KR, but have a lot 
 more room, short/grass field capability & much stronger resale market if 
 you ever have to part with one.
 
 Charlie
 
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		mlas(at)cox.net Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 5:15 pm    Post subject: best fuel economy | 
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				Here are the Lancair Legacy numbers  
    
            
 Low Speed         
           
           
           
           
           
               
 nm/hr         
 fuel rate         
 fuel total         
 rangenm         
 range sm         
 mpg nm         
 mpg sm             
 200         
 8         
 67         
 1675.0         
 1926.3         
 25.0         
 28.8             
 Normal cruse         
           
           
           
           
               
 225         
 10.5         
 67         
 1435.7         
 1651.1         
 21.4         
 24.6             
 High Speed         
           
           
           
           
               
 250         
 18         
 67         
 930.6         
 1070.1         
 13.9         
 16.0        
    
    
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		aerofabco(at)juno.com Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 7:23 pm    Post subject: best fuel economy | 
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				Yes, there are plenty of  choices that get far better mpg figures than
 "...30ish...":
   They are called =sailplanes=  and they get virtually infinite mpg.
 
   <sigh>  Sorry, I couldn't resist:   but seriously, the Moni
 self-launching
   (motor-glider)  is a case-in-point that sips fuel while the small KFM
 or
   similar engine is running for takeoff and initial climb, then burns
 nothing 
   at all  ( infinite mpg )  while soaring cross-country with the engine
 turned off.
 
   It's one solution to the question, given that the question imposed no
 restraints
   such as "...more than 150-mph cruise speed with seating for  four 
 275-lb. each
   adult males plus their golf clubs..."    If one wants to go flying with
 minimal fuel
   expenses, the motor-gliders deserve a closer look.  
 
   ....and,  FWIW, the Rand-Robinson folks even proposed a motor-glider
 variant
   of  their KR-1....
 
   art
 On Mon, 23 Jun 2008 13:04:06 -0700 "rubber314chicken"
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  If you were to to choose a kit/plans based of the best fuel economy, 
  what would you choose?  The KR-2S looks like it has the best at 
  30ish miles per gallon in cruise.  Are there any more fuel economic 
  choices out there?
  
  
  
  
  Read this topic online here:
  
  http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=189404#189404
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
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