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bvnj(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 9:33 am Post subject: My Brakett air filter pie pan has holes

Guys,



My Brakett air filter bottom pie pan has several holes in it. Please see the picture. They don't   make sense to me because I think that they let unfiltered air into the carb. Are those holes supposed to be there? Why?



A related subject. Is challenger filter installed with pie pans? Does it come with it's own pans or is one supposed to reuse the original ones? Does anybody have experience with challenger on 78 tiger?  It looks like it may not be a good fit:



http://m831.photobucket.com/image/improper%20filter%20tiger/airmaster1/Challenger%20VS%20Brackett%20air%20filter/IMG_3783-1.jpg.html?o=0





Thank you,

Boris. 



On Jul 2, 2011, at 2:22 PM, bvnj(at)yahoo.com wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   Hi Gary,

 

 My cabin heat scat tube has a splitter. 3 inch line goes to exhaust pipe shroud and a 1inch line used to go to nose bowl diaphragm to supply fresh air. Do you know what it is for? My guess is that without it the hot air is too hot and it could damage the plastic defroster vents and maybe even windshield. 

 I don't see where does this 1 inch line connects to now. Where have you been connecting it to?

 

 Thank you,

 -Boris


	


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teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 5:36 pm Post subject: My Brakett air filter pie pan has holes

Hi Boris,

You can get a new cover from Fletcher.  It isn't supposed to have those holes.  I've seen a lot of weird things.  This is just another example of someone who doesn't know what they're doing.  

As for the Challenger air filter, I tried it on mine.  I noticed the CHT/EGT spread was worse with the Challenger.  Your mileage may vary.

Gary



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To: Teamgrumman  <teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com>

Sent: Sun, July 3, 2011 10:30:50 AM

Subject: My Brakett air filter pie pan has holes



 Guys,



My Brakett air filter bottom pie pan has several holes in it. Please see the picture. They don't   make sense to me because I think that they let unfiltered air into the carb. Are those holes supposed to be there? Why?



A related subject. Is challenger filter installed with pie pans? Does it come with it's own pans or is one supposed to reuse the original ones? Does anybody have experience with challenger on 78 tiger?  It looks like it may not be a good fit:



http://m831.photobucket.com/image/improper%20filter%20tiger/airmaster1/Challenger%20VS%20Brackett%20air%20filter/IMG_3783-1.jpg.html?o=0



Thank you,

Boris. 



On Jul 2, 2011, at 2:22 PM,

BILL9725(at)AOL.COM
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Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 10:10 am Post subject: My Brakett air filter pie pan has holes

Hi 

  

 I have been using a Challenger filter on my Tiger (75), for last 4 years  and it does make a difference, as Gary says, mileage does vary, but on a run-out  0 360 it raised the full throttle ceiling from 8000 per the manual to closer to  9000 ft on the same day so it does breath better.  As a long time user of  the same filters in my car, Flow master, they do actually give more air volume,  and also as Gary says probably make the unbalance of our intake even  worse!  On a new 0 360 I can say that the Challenger may even help more,  even at 14,000 it still has throttle left.  Of course when I can afford  Gary`s wonder I will be in heaven!  

  

 Bill 

  

  In a message dated 7/3/2011 10:34:12 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  bvnj(at)yahoo.com writes:

  	  Quote: 	
		  Guys,



My Brakett air filter bottom pie pan has several holes    in it. Please see the picture. They don't   make sense to me because    I think that they let unfiltered air into the carb. Are those holes supposed    to be there? Why?



A related subject. Is challenger filter installed    with pie pans? Does it come with it's own pans or is one supposed to reuse the    original ones? Does anybody have experience with challenger on 78 tiger?     It looks like it may not be a good    fit:



http://m831.photobucket.com/image/improper%20filter%20tiger/airmaster1/Challenger%20VS%20Brackett%20air%20filter/IMG_3783-1.jpg.html?o=0

Thank you,

Boris.    



On Jul 2, 2011, at 2:22 PM, bvnj(at)yahoo.com wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   Hi    Gary,

 

 My cabin heat scat tube has a splitter. 3 inch line    goes to exhaust pipe shroud and a 1inch line used to go to nose bowl diaphragm    to supply fresh air. Do you know what it is for? My guess is that without it    the hot air is too hot and it could damage the plastic defroster vents and    maybe even windshield. 

 I don't see where does this 1 inch line    connects to now. Where have you been connecting it to?

 

 Thank    you,

 -Boris


	


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teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 10:43 am Post subject: My Brakett air filter pie pan has holes

Bill,

If you have a 4 cylinder EGT/CHT, particularly a fast responding JPI, if you could, get a stock air filter and do some independent testing on the filters.

Gary



From: "BILL9725(at)AOL.COM" <BILL9725(at)AOL.COM>

To: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com

Sent: Mon, July 4, 2011 11:06:24 AM

Subject: Re: My Brakett air filter pie pan has  holes



     Hi 

  

 I have been using a Challenger filter on my Tiger (75), for last 4 years  and it does make a difference, as Gary says, mileage does vary, but on a run-out  0 360 it raised the full throttle ceiling from 8000 per the manual to closer to  9000 ft on the same day so it does breath better.  As a long time user of  the same filters in my car, Flow master, they do actually give more air volume,  and also as Gary says probably make the unbalance of our intake even  worse!  On a new 0 360 I can say that the Challenger may even help more,  even at 14,000 it still has throttle left.  Of course when I can afford  Gary`s wonder I will be in heaven!  

  

 Bill 

  

  In a message dated 7/3/2011 10:34:12 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  bvnj(at)yahoo.com writes:

  	  Quote: 	
		  Guys,



My Brakett air filter bottom pie pan has several holes    in it. Please see the picture. They don't   make sense to me because    I think that they let unfiltered air into the carb. Are those holes supposed    to be there? Why?



A related subject. Is challenger filter installed    with pie pans? Does it come with it's own pans or is one supposed to reuse the    original ones? Does anybody have experience with challenger on 78 tiger?     It looks like it may not be a good    fit:



http://m831.photobucket.com/image/improper%20filter%20tiger/airmaster1/Challenger%20VS%20Brackett%20air%20filter/IMG_3783-1.jpg.html?o=0



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Thank you,

Boris.    



On Jul 2, 2011, at 2:22 PM, bvnj(at)yahoo.com wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   Hi    Gary,

 

 My cabin heat scat tube has a splitter. 3 inch line    goes to exhaust pipe shroud and a 1inch line used to go to nose bowl diaphragm    to supply fresh air. Do you know what it is for? My guess is that without it    the hot air is too hot and it could damage the plastic defroster vents and    maybe even windshield. 

 I don't see where does this 1 inch line    connects to now. Where have you been connecting it to?

 

 Thank    you,

 -Boris


	


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BILL9725(at)AOL.COM
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Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 11:19 am Post subject: My Brakett air filter pie pan has holes

Hi Gary 

  

 I do have a JIP 4 cylinder and did run some tests on it when we put the new  engine in, but don`t have the data anymore, best I could remember was the CHT  went up on all cylinders, but EGT went down, I assumed due to different flow  patterns. But a note here also installed a fine mixture adjustment then and that  may have contributed to the different patterns also.  You have a good idea  and I will see if I still have the original filter in Hanger and if so will do  some tests.  Best I could saw was with original motor, 2200 hrs, it  ran a lot stronger with the Bracket, but no JIP then so hard to say.   

  

 Will have to do some new tests just for fun though, do you have a stock  filter lying around in case I discarded my old one.  Great reason for  visiting Auburn again.  

  

 Thanks 

  

 Bill 

  

  In a message dated 7/4/2011 11:44:42 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com writes:

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          Bill,

   



   If you have a 4 cylinder EGT/CHT, particularly a fast responding JPI, if    you could, get a stock air filter and do some independent testing on the    filters.

   



   Gary

   

         From: "BILL9725(at)AOL.COM"    <BILL9725(at)AOL.COM>

To:    teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com

Sent: Mon, July 4, 2011 11:06:24    AM

Subject: Re:    My Brakett air filter pie pan has holes



   Hi 

    

   I have been using a Challenger filter on my Tiger (75), for last 4 years    and it does make a difference, as Gary says, mileage does vary, but on a    run-out 0 360 it raised the full throttle ceiling from 8000 per the manual to    closer to 9000 ft on the same day so it does breath better.  As a long    time user of the same filters in my car, Flow master, they do actually give    more air volume, and also as Gary says probably make the unbalance of our    intake even worse!  On a new 0 360 I can say that the Challenger may even    help more, even at 14,000 it still has throttle left.  Of course when I    can afford Gary`s wonder I will be in heaven!  

    

   Bill 

    

      In a message dated 7/3/2011 10:34:12 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,    bvnj(at)yahoo.com writes:

    	  Quote: 	
		  Guys,



My Brakett air filter bottom pie pan has several      holes in it. Please see the picture. They don't   make sense to me      because I think that they let unfiltered air into the carb. Are those holes      supposed to be there? Why?



A related subject. Is challenger filter      installed with pie pans? Does it come with it's own pans or is one supposed      to reuse the original ones? Does anybody have experience with challenger on      78 tiger?  It looks like it may not be a good fit:



http://m831.photobucket.com/image/improper%20filter%20tiger/airmaster1/Challenger%20VS%20Brackett%20air%20filter/IMG_3783-1.jpg.html?o=0

Thank you,

Boris.      



On Jul 2, 2011, at 2:22 PM, bvnj(at)yahoo.com wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   Hi      Gary,

 

 My cabin heat scat tube has a splitter. 3 inch line      goes to exhaust pipe shroud and a 1inch line used to go to nose bowl      diaphragm to supply fresh air. Do you know what it is for? My guess is that      without it the hot air is too hot and it could damage the plastic defroster      vents and maybe even windshield. 

 I don't see where does this 1 inch      line connects to now. Where have you been connecting it to?

 

      Thank you,

 -Boris


	


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bvnj(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 7:08 pm Post subject: My Brakett air filter pie pan has holes

Thanks for all the answers, but a couple of questions are remaining:



1. does the Chalenger filter use an aluminum plates, which David Fletcher calls "pie pans"?

2. if it does, does it come with new ones or is one supposed to reuse the old ones from Brakett filter?

3. David Fletcher on his web site suggests that they don't fit well in 

77 to 79 Tiger airbox. Does anybody have a Chalenger filter on a 77 to 79 Tiger? What is your experience? A little tight squeeze or a horrible struggle every time?



(http://media.photobucket.com/image/improper%20filter%20installation%20in%20tiger/airmaster1/Challenger%20VS%20Brackett%20air%20filter/IMG_3783-1.jpg?o=1)



Thank you,

-Boris

allenc3(at)bellsouth.net
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Posted: Mon Jul 04, 2011 10:26 pm Post subject: My Brakett air filter pie pan has holes

I use a Challenger filter in my Converted Cheetah. It is a 76 model, but do 

not know what year the airbox is .No pie plate, just slides in the airbox. 

Just recharge it every annual with a kit you can buy at Wall mart. Actually, 

you can buy the whole filter at Wall Mart, K&N filter for a Slant Six 

Chrysler product, around 1976. I think a Dodge Dart will work.. About 24 

bucks, but no STC.!



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From: "b v" <bvnj(at)yahoo.com>

Sent: Monday, July 04, 2011 11:05 PM

To: "Teamgrumman" <teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com>

Subject: Re: My Brakett air filter pie pan has holes



 	  Quote: 	
		   



 Thanks for all the answers, but a couple of questions are remaining:



 1. does the Chalenger filter use an aluminum plates, which David Fletcher 

 calls "pie pans"?

 2. if it does, does it come with new ones or is one supposed to reuse the 

 old ones from Brakett filter?

 3. David Fletcher on his web site suggests that they don't fit well in

 77 to 79 Tiger airbox. Does anybody have a Chalenger filter on a 77 to 79 

 Tiger? What is your experience? A little tight squeeze or a horrible 

 struggle every time?



 (http://media.photobucket.com/image/improper%20filter%20installation%20in%20tiger/airmaster1/Challenger%20VS%20Brackett%20air%20filter/IMG_3783-1.jpg?o=1)



 Thank you,

 -Boris

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teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 12:04 am Post subject: My Brakett air filter pie pan has holes

Oh, sorry. The Challenger (which is a K&N E1000 from a slant 6 Dodge) fits fairly well. Without something to keep it round, it distorts when installed. K&N supplies a grease to seal the surfaces to the air box. 



Gary

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On Jul 4, 2011, at 8:05 PM, b v <bvnj(at)yahoo.com> wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   

 

 Thanks for all the answers, but a couple of questions are remaining:

 

 1. does the Chalenger filter use an aluminum plates, which David Fletcher calls "pie pans"?

 2. if it does, does it come with new ones or is one supposed to reuse the old ones from Brakett filter?

 3. David Fletcher on his web site suggests that they don't fit well in 

 77 to 79 Tiger airbox. Does anybody have a Chalenger filter on a 77 to 79 Tiger? What is your experience? A little tight squeeze or a horrible struggle every time?

 

 (http://media.photobucket.com/image/improper%20filter%20installation%20in%20tiger/airmaster1/Challenger%20VS%20Brackett%20air%20filter/IMG_3783-1.jpg?o=1)

 

 Thank you,

 -Boris

teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com
Guest

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 9:16 am Post subject: My Brakett air filter pie pan has holes

Hi Bill,

I have the filter from my plane that you can use.  Come on down.  I'd like to know if you see what I saw on the temps.  It would be better if the K&N had something to keep it round.

Gary



From: "BILL9725(at)AOL.COM" <BILL9725(at)AOL.COM>

To: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com

Sent: Mon, July 4, 2011 12:16:41 PM

Subject: Re:  My Brakett air filter pie pan has holes



    Hi Gary 

  

 I do have a JIP 4 cylinder and did run some tests on it when we put the new  engine in, but don`t have the data anymore, best I could remember was the CHT  went up on all cylinders, but EGT went down, I assumed due to different flow  patterns. But a note here also installed a fine mixture adjustment then and that  may have contributed to the different patterns also.  You have a good idea  and I will see if I still have the original filter in Hanger and if so will do  some tests.  Best I could saw was with original motor, 2200 hrs, it  ran a lot stronger with the Bracket, but no JIP then so hard to say.   

  

 Will have to do some new tests just for fun though, do you have a stock  filter lying around in case I discarded my old one.  Great reason for  visiting Auburn again.  

  

 Thanks 

  

 Bill 

  

  In a message dated 7/4/2011 11:44:42 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com writes:

  	  Quote: 	
		  



          Bill,

   



   If you have a 4 cylinder EGT/CHT, particularly a fast responding JPI, if    you could, get a stock air filter and do some independent testing on the    filters.

   



   Gary

   

         From: "BILL9725(at)AOL.COM"    <BILL9725(at)AOL.COM>

To:    teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com

Sent: Mon, July 4, 2011 11:06:24    AM

Subject: Re:    My Brakett air filter pie pan has holes



   Hi 

    

   I have been using a Challenger filter on my Tiger (75), for last 4 years    and it does make a difference, as Gary says, mileage does vary, but on a    run-out 0 360 it raised the full throttle ceiling from 8000 per the manual to    closer to 9000 ft on the same day so it does breath better.  As a long    time user of the same filters in my car, Flow master, they do actually give    more air volume, and also as Gary says probably make the unbalance of our    intake even worse!  On a new 0 360 I can say that the Challenger may even    help more, even at 14,000 it still has throttle left.  Of course when I    can afford Gary`s wonder I will be in heaven!  

    

   Bill 

    

      In a message dated 7/3/2011 10:34:12 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,    bvnj(at)yahoo.com writes:

    	  Quote: 	
		  Guys,



My Brakett air filter bottom pie pan has several      holes in it. Please see the picture. They don't   make sense to me      because I think that they let unfiltered air into the carb. Are those holes      supposed to be there? Why?



A related subject. Is challenger filter      installed with pie pans? Does it come with it's own pans or is one supposed      to reuse the original ones? Does anybody have experience with challenger on      78 tiger?  It looks like it may not be a good fit:



http://m831.photobucket.com/image/improper%20filter%20tiger/airmaster1/Challenger%20VS%20Brackett%20air%20filter/IMG_3783-1.jpg.html?o=0

Thank you,

Boris.      



On Jul 2, 2011, at 2:22 PM, bvnj(at)yahoo.com wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   Hi      Gary,

 

 My cabin heat scat tube has a splitter. 3 inch line      goes to exhaust pipe shroud and a 1inch line used to go to nose bowl      diaphragm to supply fresh air. Do you know what it is for? My guess is that      without it the hot air is too hot and it could damage the plastic defroster      vents and maybe even windshield. 

 I don't see where does this 1 inch      line connects to now. Where have you been connecting it to?

 

      Thank you,

 -Boris


	


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JHOSLER(at)epri.com
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Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 11:42 am Post subject: My Brakett air filter pie pan has holes

So exactly what is supposed to hold a 1977 Tiger bracket air filter

centered in the airbox(and not fall to the bottom)?



Does anyone know?



I have seen sticky (on both sides) rubber tape used on the front and

back face of the filter pie pans.  This seems pretty lame and it seems

it would offer the opportunity for worn rubber to get into the

carburetor.



Is this really the origial design?



John 



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teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com
Guest

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 12:52 pm Post subject: My Brakett air filter pie pan has holes

John,

By design, there should be a block on the bottom of the airbox which holds the air filter up.  There should be a tab at the outer most corner up inside the airbox.  There is a deflector plate at the inlet which holds it to the center.

On N28840, I replaced the tab with a stainless steel tube, held in place with a 1/4 inch bolt.  

The design of the airbox allows the filter to move around a lot.  It's a shitty design from the point of wear and tear.  Just the vibration alone wears holes in the pie tins around the parameter. Over the years I've tried a number of things to keep the filter in my Tiger from eating itself.  Right now I have two blocks in the bottom in an attempt to keep the filter  from moving too much.  It helps, but not a lot.

What about a redesigned airbox with an opening on top to drop the filter in?



From: "Hosler, John" <JHOSLER(at)epri.com>

To: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com

Sent: Tue, July 5, 2011 12:39:08 PM

Subject: RE: Re: My Brakett air filter pie pan has holes



--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "Hosler, John" <JHOSLER(at)epri.com (JHOSLER(at)epri.com)>



So exactly what is supposed to hold a 1977 Tiger bracket  air filter

centered in the airbox(and not fall to the bottom)?



Does anyone know?



I have seen sticky (on both sides) rubber tape used on the front and

back face of the filter pie pans.  This seems pretty lame and it seems

it would offer the opportunity for worn rubber to get into the

carburetor.



Is this really the origial design?



John 



--

JHOSLER(at)epri.com
Guest

Posted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 1:02 pm Post subject: My Brakett air filter pie pan has holes

Gary:  

  

 Years ago I tried a block at the bottom but the  filter machined itself into it.

  

 The world could use an improved design.

  

  (I note there is a hole at the back of the airbox  that could be used to secure the filter (with a bolt if a nut were welded on to  the air filter pie pan).

  

 John



   From:  owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com  [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary  Vogt

Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 4:49 PM

To:  teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Re: Re: My  Brakett air filter pie pan has holes

 

  John,

 



 By design, there should be a block on the bottom of the airbox which holds  the air filter up.  There should be a tab at the outer most corner up  inside the airbox.  There is a deflector plate at the inlet which holds it  to the center.

 



 On N28840, I replaced the tab with a stainless steel tube, held in place  with a 1/4 inch bolt.  

 



 The design of the airbox allows the filter to move around a lot.  It's  a shitty design from the point of wear and tear.  Just the vibration alone  wears holes in the pie tins around the parameter. Over the years I've tried a  number of things to keep the filter in my Tiger from eating itself.  Right  now I have two blocks in the bottom in an attempt to keep the filter from moving  too much.  It helps, but not a lot.

 



 What about a redesigned airbox with an opening on top to drop the filter  in?

 

   From: "Hosler, John"  <JHOSLER(at)epri.com>

To:  teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com

Sent: Tue, July 5, 2011 12:39:08  PM

Subject: RE:  Re: My Brakett air filter pie pan has  holes



--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "Hosler, John"  <JHOSLER(at)epri.com (JHOSLER(at)epri.com)>



So exactly  what is supposed to hold a 1977 Tiger bracket air filter

centered in the  airbox(and not fall to the bottom)?



Does anyone know?



I have seen  sticky (on both sides) rubber tape used on the front and

back face of the  filter pie pans.  This seems pretty lame and it seems

it would offer the  opportunity for worn rubber to get into the

carburetor.



Is this really  the origial design?



John 



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teamgrumman(at)yahoo.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Jul 06, 2011 9:49 am Post subject: My Brakett air filter pie pan has holes

Yes, that is a problem.  On one installation I tried two blocks stacked and shaved.  I mounted them so they hit the filter and not the housing. It would put a big dent in the filter, but seemed to work ok.

From: "Hosler, John" <JHOSLER(at)epri.com>

To: teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com

Sent: Tue, July 5, 2011 1:59:50 PM

Subject: RE: Re: My Brakett air filter pie pan has  holes

    DIV { MARGIN:0px;}      Gary:  

 Years ago I tried a block at the bottom but the  filter machined itself into it.

 The world could use an improved design.

  (I note there is a hole at the back of the airbox  that could be used to secure the filter (with a bolt if a nut were welded on to  the air filter pie pan).

 John

   From:  owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com  [mailto:owner-teamgrumman-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary  Vogt

Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2011 4:49 PM

To:  teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Re: Re: My  Brakett air filter pie pan has holes

  John,

 By design, there should be a block on the bottom of the airbox which holds  the air filter up.  There should be a tab at the outer most corner up  inside the airbox.  There is a deflector plate at the inlet which holds it  to the center.

 On N28840, I replaced the tab with a stainless steel tube, held in place  with a 1/4 inch bolt.  

 The design of the airbox allows the filter to move around a lot.  It's  a shitty design from the point of wear and tear.  Just the vibration alone  wears holes in the pie tins around the parameter. Over the years I've tried a  number of things to keep the filter in my Tiger from eating itself.  Right  now I have two blocks in the bottom in an attempt to keep the filter from moving  too much.  It helps, but not a lot.

 What about a redesigned airbox with an opening on top to drop the filter  in?

   From: "Hosler, John"  <JHOSLER(at)epri.com>

To:  teamgrumman-list(at)matronics.com

Sent: Tue, July 5, 2011 12:39:08  PM

Subject: RE:  Re: My Brakett air filter pie pan has  holes

--> TeamGrumman-List message posted by: "Hosler, John"  <JHOSLER(at)epri.com (JHOSLER(at)epri.com)>

So exactly  what is supposed to hold a 1977 Tiger bracket air filter

centered in the  airbox(and not fall to the bottom)?

Does anyone know?

I have seen  sticky (on both sides) rubber tape used on the front and

back face of the  filter pie pans.  This seems pretty lame and it seems

it would offer the  opportunity for worn rubber to get into the

carburetor.

Is this really  the origial design?

John 

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