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PostPosted: Sat Sep 14, 2013 7:41 pm    Post subject: Trial Fit of 4 into 1 Exhaust Reply with quote

Three and 1 / 2 years after I did the initial mockup for the 4 into 1 exhaust system I finally received it this week and did the trial fit today. The workmanship and the fit were excellent and it has good clearance everywhere. That PVC mockup process really works great.

I am working on the final glass work on the cowling now and this will help determine any clearance issues with the bottom of the cowling. I have decided against the extended fairing from the lower cowling under the fuselage.  I may add it later after the plane is flying if I find that cooling is not an issue.

With any luck I will finish the last of the fiberglass work on the cowling and the windscreen by the end of September or first of October. Trying to complete glass before cool weather. It's been a long and very hot summer working on the plane but progress is being made although far to slowly. Who knows, another 15 years and I might just finish this thing.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 5:27 am    Post subject: Re: Trial Fit of 4 into 1 Exhaust Reply with quote

Wow, that sure does look pretty. One more step to completion checked off the list. Here’s a little inspiration I found last week:

http://eaa104.org/documents/NL0913.pdf

Check page 6 of this chapter newsletter. I had this one as flying but it is not. Apparently in the eyes of some States if it is registered at the FAA it is flyable, and they are entitled to sales tax, and yearly registration fees (unlike the project car I have). In the paper work for my airplane is a stack of yearly Minnesota registration receipts. In 18 years the thing never left the hanger. Looks like Ed Hanson will be flying by years end.

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Robert Reed



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PostPosted: Tue Sep 17, 2013 7:09 am    Post subject: Trial Fit of 4 into 1 Exhaust Reply with quote

Mark,

A very nice looking Cruiser and it looks like I won't be the next one flying after all.

Oh well, progress is progress and I am inching along.

Bob Reed

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Wow, that sure does look pretty. One more step to completion checked off the list. Here’s a little inspiration I found last week:

http://eaa104.org/documents/NL0913.pdf

Check page 6 of this chapter newsletter. I had this one as flying but it is not. Apparently in the eyes of some States if it is registered at the FAA it is flyable, and they are entitled to sales tax, and yearly registration fees (unlike the project car I have). In the paper work for my airplane is a stack of yearly Minnesota registration receipts. In 18 years the thing never left the hanger. Looks like Ed Hanson will be flying by years end.

Mark T.


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 6:55 pm    Post subject: Trial Fit of 4 into 1 Exhaust Reply with quote

Did you run the engine with it?
Will it survivwe the vibrations?
Jerzy
From: Robert Reed <robertr237(at)att.net>
To: "kis-list(at)matronics.com" <kis-list(at)matronics.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2013 10:40 PM
Subject: Trial Fit of 4 into 1 Exhaust


Three and 1 / 2 years after I did the initial mockup for the 4 into 1 exhaust system I finally received it this week and did the trial fit today. The workmanship and the fit were excellent and it has good clearance everywhere. That PVC mockup process really works great.

I am working on the final glass work on the cowling now and this will help determine any clearance issues with the bottom of the cowling. I have decided against the extended fairing from the lower cowling under the fuselage. I may add it later after the plane is flying if I find that cooling is not an issue.
 
With any luck I will finish the last of the fiberglass work on the cowling and the windscreen by the end of September or first of October. Trying to complete glass before cool weather. It's been a long and very hot summer working on the plane but progress is being made although far to slowly. Who knows, another 15 years and I might just finish this thing.

Bob Reed
 






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PostPosted: Wed Sep 18, 2013 8:01 pm    Post subject: Trial Fit of 4 into 1 Exhaust Reply with quote

Jerzy,

No, I haven't done the first engine start yet and it will probably be after the first of the year before I do. My single objective right now is to finish ALL glasswork before the temperature starts falling and then do the prime and painting during the winter cool weather.

Each of the exhaust tubes have a ball joint in the system to allow some flexability. I have a hangar point behind the collector and two on the firewall. Will be using flexable hanger straps with stainless clamps. Vibration should not be a problem but I have learned there are no guarantees.

Bob

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Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 9:55 PM
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Did you run the engine with it?
Will it survivwe the vibrations?
Jerzy

From: Robert Reed <robertr237(at)att.net>
To: "kis-list(at)matronics.com" <kis-list(at)matronics.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2013 10:40 PM
Subject: Trial Fit of 4 into 1 Exhaust


Three and 1 / 2 years after I did the initial mockup for the 4 into 1 exhaust system I finally received it this week and did the trial fit today. The workmanship and the fit were excellent and it has good clearance everywhere. That PVC mockup process really works great.

I am working on the final glass work on the cowling now and this will help determine any clearance issues with the bottom of the cowling. I have decided against the extended fairing from the lower cowling under the fuselage. I may add it later after the plane is flying if I find that cooling is not an issue.
 
With any luck I will finish the last of the fiberglass work on the cowling and the windscreen by the end of September or first of October. Trying to complete glass before cool weather. It's been a long and very hot summer working on the plane but progress is being made although far to slowly. Who knows, another 15 years and I might just finish this thing.

Bob Reed







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PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 9:46 am    Post subject: Trial Fit of 4 into 1 Exhaust Reply with quote

I have a similar exhaust on my 360, except it is not quite as long out the back of the cowl. I only have one hangar just aft of the firewall and no ball joints. The only problem I have had is I used a 3/4"x0.015 inch strip of stainless steel to hang the exhaust. It cracked after 125 hours or so. I just have two strips of the same dimensions now.  

Scott

From: Robert Reed <robertr237(at)att.net>
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Jerzy,

No, I haven't done the first engine start yet and it will probably be after the first of the year before I do. My single objective right now is to finish ALL glasswork before the temperature starts falling and then do the prime and painting during the winter cool weather.

Each of the exhaust tubes have a ball joint in the system to allow some flexability. I have a hangar point behind the collector and two on the firewall. Will be using flexable hanger straps with stainless clamps. Vibration should not be a problem but I have learned there are no guarantees.

Bob

From: jerzy krasinski <jerzy_krasinski(at)sbcglobal.net>
To: "kis-list(at)matronics.com" <kis-list(at)matronics.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 9:55 PM
Subject: Re: Trial Fit of 4 into 1 Exhaust


Did you run the engine with it?
Will it survivwe the vibrations?
Jerzy

From: Robert Reed <robertr237(at)att.net>
To: "kis-list(at)matronics.com" <kis-list(at)matronics.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2013 10:40 PM
Subject: Trial Fit of 4 into 1 Exhaust


Three and 1 / 2 years after I did the initial mockup for the 4 into 1 exhaust system I finally received it this week and did the trial fit today. The workmanship and the fit were excellent and it has good clearance everywhere. That PVC mockup process really works great.

I am working on the final glass work on the cowling now and this will help determine any clearance issues with the bottom of the cowling. I have decided against the extended fairing from the lower cowling under the fuselage. I may add it later after the plane is flying if I find that cooling is not an issue.

With any luck I will finish the last of the fiberglass work on the cowling and the windscreen by the end of September or first of October.  Trying to complete glass before cool weather. It's been a long and very hot summer working on the plane but progress is being made although far to slowly. Who knows, another 15 years and I might just finish this thing.

Bob Reed







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PostPosted: Thu Sep 19, 2013 12:59 pm    Post subject: Trial Fit of 4 into 1 Exhaust Reply with quote

I have two mounting points on either side of the tailpipe following the 4-1 collector. My initial thought was to put a clamp over that position and use a flexible hangar on both sides. This would give some movement to the system and dampen any vibration. Not sure though if that will be enough support for the entire system. The mechanic that I am working with is coming out this weekend to help me locate and drill for the exhaust temp probes so I will discuss the options with him. I was going to try and drill them myself but he convinced me that it would be much easier to use his jig and drill it rather than to destroy some of my bits trying to penetrate that stainless steel.

Bob

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To: "kis-list(at)matronics.com" <kis-list(at)matronics.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 19, 2013 12:42 PM
Subject: Re: Trial Fit of 4 into 1 Exhaust


I have a similar exhaust on my 360, except it is not quite as long out the back of the cowl. I only have one hangar just aft of the firewall and no ball joints. The only problem I have had is I used a 3/4"x0.015 inch strip of stainless steel to hang the exhaust. It cracked after 125 hours or so. I just have two strips of the same dimensions now.

Scott

From: Robert Reed <robertr237(at)att.net>
To: "kis-list(at)matronics.com" <kis-list(at)matronics.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 9:01 PM
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Jerzy,

No, I haven't done the first engine start yet and it will probably be after the first of the year before I do. My single objective right now is to finish ALL glasswork before the temperature starts falling and then do the prime and painting during the winter cool weather.

Each of the exhaust tubes have a ball joint in the system to allow some flexability. I have a hangar point behind the collector and two on the firewall. Will be using flexable hanger straps with stainless clamps. Vibration should not be a problem but I have learned there are no guarantees.

Bob

From: jerzy krasinski <jerzy_krasinski(at)sbcglobal.net>
To: "kis-list(at)matronics.com" <kis-list(at)matronics.com>
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 9:55 PM
Subject: Re: Trial Fit of 4 into 1 Exhaust


Did you run the engine with it?
Will it survivwe the vibrations?
Jerzy

From: Robert Reed <robertr237(at)att.net>
To: "kis-list(at)matronics.com" <kis-list(at)matronics.com>
Sent: Saturday, September 14, 2013 10:40 PM
Subject: Trial Fit of 4 into 1 Exhaust


Three and 1 / 2 years after I did the initial mockup for the 4 into 1 exhaust system I finally received it this week and did the trial fit today. The workmanship and the fit were excellent and it has good clearance everywhere. That PVC mockup process really works great.

I am working on the final glass work on the cowling now and this will help determine any clearance issues with the bottom of the cowling. I have decided against the extended fairing from the lower cowling under the fuselage. I may add it later after the plane is flying if I find that cooling is not an issue.

With any luck I will finish the last of the fiberglass work on the cowling and the windscreen by the end of September or first of October.  Trying to complete glass before cool weather. It's been a long and very hot summer working on the plane but progress is being made although far to slowly. Who knows, another 15 years and I might just finish this thing.

Bob Reed







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