RE: Split loom melting


Subject:    RE: Split loom melting
From:    Allen Fulmer (afulmer@charter.net)
Date:    Sun Oct 05 - 1:18 PM
Bob,

Am I drawing the correct conclusion from your comments that using split loom
or most any "conduit" is NOT a preferred method of "protecting" a wire
bundle in the engine compartment?

I must admit that in my planning and building I have "assumed" conduit was
desirable from an appearance standpoint while not considering the
temperature the wires would be exposed to.

Allen Fulmer
RV7 Eggenfellner Subaru E6Ti

>>>-----Original Message-----
>>>From: owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com
>>>[mailto:owner-aeroelectric-list-server@matronics.com]On
>>>Behalf Of Robert L. Nuckolls, III
>>>Sent: Sunday, October 05, 2008 9:52 AM
>>>To: aeroelectric-list@matronics.com
>>>Subject: Re: Split loom melting
>>>
>>>
>>>Nuckolls, III" <nuckolls.bob@cox.net>
>>>
>>>At 09:07 AM 10/5/2008 -0400, you wrote:
>>>>Caldwell" <lrsecaldwell@earthlink.net>
>>>>
>>>>I have experanced melting of some of the black split loom I used an
>>>>conduit to prevent wire chaffing in  my engine compartment.
>>> One piese
>>>>that melted was 6 or 7 inches from the exhaust tube.
>>>>
>>>>Note that this is a recent problem that has occured after I
>>>add some
>>>>additional heat shield due to heat discoloration on the
>>>inside of the
>>>>lower cowl,
>>>>
>>>>Has anyone else had this problem?
>>>>
>>>>Does anyone have any data on what temperatue exists in the
>>>engine compartment?
>>>
>>>   Temperatures under the cowl can range from ambient
>>>   (OAT at xx-thousands of feet in the winter) to
>>>   hundreds of degrees (radiant heating from exhaust
>>>   components).  In the "big airplane factories" we've
>>>   had suppliers of spiral wrap, split loom and zippered
>>>   sleeve wire bundling products come and go. The
>>>   added cost, labor, maintenance and addition to weight
>>>   have never passed muster with the guys who tracked
>>>   cost-of-ownership for airplanes.
>>>
>>>   You can bet that should this technology be considered
>>>   worthy of flight in a TC aircraft, it would be made
>>>   from materials similar to the wire it protects . . . i.e.
>>>   Tefzel or one of the more exotic synthetics. Given
>>>   that Tefzel tie wraps are around $1.50 each in low
>>>   quantities, you can bet that the cost of Tefzel spiral
>>>   wrap is similarly breathtaking.
>>>
>>>>As an aside I did some informal tests of the black split
>>>loom and it burns
>>>>and is not self extinguishing.
>>>>Are thre any good fire resistant alternatives?
>>>
>>>   Not aware of any. The popular nylons are probably
>>>   incapable of tolerating the localized heating situation
>>>   you've identified. You might consider re-routing the
>>>   bundle, running it through fire-sleeve, or some other
>>>   process that puts a barrier between your wire bundle
>>>   and the IR heat source that's pushing it over the
>>>   cliff. I'd vote for re-routing the wire bundle.
>>>
>>>
>>>   Bob . . .
>>>
>>>
>>>        ----------------------------------------)
>>>        ( . . .  a long habit of not thinking   )
>>>        ( a thing wrong, gives it a superficial )
>>>        ( appearance of being right . . .       )
>>>        (                                       )
>>>        (                  -Thomas Paine 1776-  )
>>>        ----------------------------------------
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com
>>>Date: 10/5/2008 9:20 AM
>>>




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