Re: Hydraulic brake hose


Subject:    Re: Hydraulic brake hose
From:    JR Gowing (jrgowing@bigpond.net.au)
Date:    Mon Mar 08 - 11:35 PM
Bob

It used to be said that you have a tethered wedge to drop into the space 
vacated when you apply the brake and this will hold the pressure.

JR kit 327 in Oz

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  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Robert Borger 
  To: europa-list@matronics.com 
  Sent: Tuesday, March 09, 2010 1:10 PM
  Subject: Re: Hydraulic brake hose


  Hi Fred,


  Ya, the stock factory configuration simply requires too many hands for 
my complete comfort.  It works, but the right hand can be quite busy 
between the throttle and brake. 


  There's a very fine line on the throttle friction between difficult to 
operate and having the throttle spring slowly slip the throttle forward. 
 And it isn't the easiest thing to adjust that friction either.


  Then there's the lack of a parking brake to hold things during run-up. 
 Hold the stick in your knees, the brake in the right hand and reach 
across with the left to set the throttle.  The one-armed paper hanger 
comes to mind.


  The stick mounted master solves all those problems easily.


  There are no issues on the brake end of things if you stick with the 
stock setup.  The issue arises when you want to switch out to the stick 
mounted brake.  All the brake fittings are straight threads not pipe 
threads so AN816 nipple adaptors from NPT to Flared Tube don't work.  
But a nice banjo fitting with banjo bolt work just jim dandy.


  I'll be posting a few pics from my trials and tribulations as soon as 
I send this .


  Hope this helps,

  Bob Borger
  Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Mono, Intercooled 914, Airmaster C/S
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  On Mar 8, 2010, at 14:57, Fred Klein wrote:


    Mike, et al,


    After following and just now reviewing this thread, I find I'm not 
clear as to just what the issues are with the stock Europa XS mono 
brake, apart from the substitution of a stick-mounted motorcycle-type 
hand grip for the stock, tunnel-mounted, hand brake/master cylinder. 


    I do understand the desirability of having 2 right hands during 
run-up with the stock setup, and consequently, I fashioned a detent for 
the hand brake as shown in the attached photo. Whether or not the detent 
will hold the brake full-on during runup is not known, but for the time 
being I'm hoping it will serve while I progress w/ other more 
challenging aspects of my build.


    So here's a question...If one were to retain the stock XS mono hand 
brake lever and master cylinder, are there issues with the kit-supplied 
hydraulic line and its connection to the wheel mounted brake assembly 
which warrant substitution using the recently posted banjo fittings?


    Fred
    A194<DSCN0079.jpg>


    On Mar 8, 2010, at 11:29 AM, Mike Parkin wrote:


      Hello Bob and anyone else wanting the monowheel brake info,

      I went to the hydraulic store to day, fortunately he had a 
computer record of what I bought last year.


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03/08/10 19:33:00




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