Re: Hartzel Blended foil


Subject:    Re: Hartzel Blended foil
From:    Craymondw@aol.com
Date:    Fri Mar 05 - 7:07 AM
The prop I had before was a 72" Hartzel constant speed prop that  was 
recommended and sold through Glasair Corp and was recommended for  180/2-00 hp

Lyc. It didn't have a name, just serial numbers. Our new prop is a  72 inch 
constant speed "Blended Foil" prop. My home  base builder bolted one on his RV

9 and noted a 10 mph increase in  cruise speed. I think my greater 
performance was due to my plane not  being completely stream lined in cruise and

with the added thrust this prop  produces I had an increase in cruise speed 
greater than 10 mph ranging  between 15 to 20 mph. I have only recorded three 
short flights with this  new Blended Foil design and with the arrival of 
spring I will be making more  cross country flights and will report what I see.
      As a side note, I placed my prop for sale in  Trade A Plane and it 
sold within two weeks to a Mooney driver. His prop hub was  worn out and a 
prop shop wanted close to $4,000 for a new hub and several  thousand dollars 
for two serviceable blades because one of his blades  could no longer be 
dressed.  My old prop had less than 600 hours  and after being inspected by a 
prop shop, determined all it needed  was inspection, paint and fresh seals and

grease. This Mooney driver  would have had to pay $10,300 for a new prop and 
was happy to find mine  for half the price. Also, if you own a low time 
prop in excellent  condition like mine was, I was offered $3,000 by a prop 
shop. Glasair  supplies this new Blended Foil prop for $6,600. They installed 
one on their  factory Glasair  Super 2S and noted a 7 mph increase.  


In a message dated 3/4/2010 9:26:31 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
dralle@matronics.com writes:

-->  Glasair-List message posted by: Matt Dralle  <dralle@matronics.com>

Nice report.  What was the "old" prop  you had?

Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV
http://www.mattsrv8.com  Matt's Building Blog
Finishing Up...


At 03:27 PM 3/4/2010   Thursday, you wrote:
>We had another chance to test our new Hartzel  blended foil prop on our 
Glasair 2S FT-!0360 200 HP engine. We flew the plane  with a light cross wind 
this time and noted a shorter take off roll from the  runway end threshold 
to the hash marks. This time we noted that full take off  RPM had settled 
down to  2600 rpm and that the fluctuating RPM we had on  our first flights may

have been due to either the prop purging itself of a  little air or the oil 
being a bit warmer. Our last prop required adjusting the  hub stop to get 
2750 rpm.  We climbed to 6,500 feet at a 140 mph  indicated airspeed and 
noted this new prop provided a much higher rate of  climb than our old prop did.

Once at altitude we flew West at 6,500 feet with  24 inches manifold 
pressure, 2450 RPM and 50 degrees lean of peak for fifteen  miles and recorded
GPS 
ground cruise speeds of 214 mph in one direction and  204 mph on the return 
course that averaged out to 209 mph and noted an  increase of around 15 mph 
over our old c!
ruise speed. This increase in air  speed was a bit lower than the twenty 
mph increase we noted at 3,000 feet. But  this may have been do to slightly 
warmer temperatures and saturated air from a  rain system that was moving in. 
The visibility for this flight was limited and  no were near the crystal 
clear air  we had on our first two tests flights  and that may have been  the 
cause. We also noted with our old prop that  increasing the RPM over 2350 rpm 
didn't add to the air speed, but increasing  the rpm with the new blended 
foil did increase airspeed all the way up to 2475  rpm. My guess for this is 
that the new blended foil has far more bite at  higher rpm's than our old 
prop did. When the weather cooperates we will shoot  for 8,500 feet on 
hopefully a clear day. 
>         


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