Re: Re: Engine Restraint Cable


Subject:    Re: Re: Engine Restraint Cable
From:    Lynn Matteson (lynnmatt@jps.net)
Date:    Wed Nov 18 - 8:49 AM
Nobody likes an "intelligent donkey", Clint. : )

When it gets to 1000, I begin another 1000.

Sounds like you've got a chip on your shoulder, Clint. Hope you get  
over it.

Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
Jabiru 2200, #2062, 814.7 hrs
Countdown to 1000 hrs~185 to go
Sensenich 62"x46" Wood prop
Electroair direct-fire ignition system
Rotec TBI-40 injection
Status: flying (and learning)
do not archive


On Nov 17, 2009, at 11:08 PM, Clint Bazzill wrote:

> Hi Lynn,
>
> I guess you are right about all these cables and wires holding  
> things together in the most widely used engine used in LSA. 95% if  
> I am correct.  The 912 ULS unlike the simple Jabiru 2200 with its  
> equil poor performance which can be verified in several aviation  
> magazines. Some say is sounds very nice.
>
>
> P.S. What is going to happen when your Jabiru reaches 1000 hours,  
> we are all waiting in suspense.
>
> Clint
>
>
> > From: lynnmatt@jps.net
> > Subject: Re: Re: Engine Restraint Cable
> > Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 20:13:49 -0500
> > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> >
> >
> > Not to blatantly bash the Rotax (just subtly), but from what I've
> > seen of 'em, there is enough wires, cables, hoses and fuel lines to
> > probably hold the engine in place. I think that's what kept ....was
> > it Gary's? ......plane flyable, and let him land after one blade
> > departed and the resultant vibration shook the engine loose. You  
> old-
> > timers will recall who I mean. I'm pretty sure that was a Rotax
> > engine. Seriously though, I'm NOT bashing Rotax, but I wouldn't bet
> > on any amount of the normal wiring, hoses, etc. to hold ANY  
> engine in
> > place once the vibration of a less-than-complete prop begins.
> >
> > Lynn Matteson
> > Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
> > Jabiru 2200, #2062, 814.7 hrs
> > Countdown to 1000 hrs~185 to go
> > Sensenich 62"x46" Wood prop
> > Electroair direct-fire ignition system
> > Rotec TBI-40 injection
> > Status: flying (and learning)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Nov 16, 2009, at 3:14 PM, Clint Bazzill wrote:
> >
> > > I do not think you need a cable around the engine on a Rotax
> > > powered aircraft. I know of 2 props that came apart, the vibration
> > > was so great that the carbs flew off and engine stopped. These
> > > engines are not like the heavy direct drive aircraft engines.
> > >
> > > Clint
> > >
> > > > Subject: Re: Engine Restraint Cable
> > > > From: akflyer_2000@yahoo.com
> > > > Date: Mon, 16 Nov 2009 11:56:53 -0800
> > > > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> > > >
> > > <akflyer_2000@yahoo.com>
> > > >
> > > > I have not had this happen on a "real" plane, but lots of times
> > > on models. One of the local guys builds alot and I do the test
> > > flights for him. When we go into electrics, he though that a good
> > > friction fit would hold the engine on... I flew a few of his
> > > variable CG airplanes till I started checking them over real good
> > > before the first flight! He used a plug in harness on one and when
> > > the motor came off, it came unplugged and was gone. She was
> > > uncontrollable tail heavy and came in spinning hard. 2 others he
> > > soldered the connections and when they came off it was just
> > > exciting for a few till I got it settled down.. it was kinda like
> > > chasing a crane load that starts swinging on ya. Both of those
> > > planes I was able to land in one piece. I know the scale is
> > > different, but I am with Lynn on this one. I would rather have a
> > > engine swinging a little and have a chance to get it on the  
> ground,
> > > than to have the engine depart completely and have no option other
> > > than to try to bend!
> > > > over in the cramped cockpit and kiss your @ss good by!
> > > >
> > > > --------
> > > > DO NOT ARCHIVE
> > > > Leonard Perry aka SNAKE
> > > > Soldotna AK
> > > > Avid &quot;C&quot; / Mk IV
> > > > 582 IVO IFA
> > > > Full Lotus 1450
> > > > #1 snake oil salesman since 1-22-2009
> > > >
> > > > hander outer of humorless darwin awards
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Read this topic online here:
> > > >
> > > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=273185#273185
> > > >
> > > >
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