RE: RE: Beta defined.


Subject:    RE: RE: Beta defined.
From:    Noel Loveys (noelloveys@yahoo.ca)
Date:    Fri Nov 28 - 11:38 AM
Paul: 


All though  your post is factual and well backed up, I think you missed 
the
boat on this one.


I think what Lynn was looking for was how the term Beta came around.
Something that would make =93Beta=94 easier to remember


Still, I liked your only slightly plagiarized description of the 
operation
of the 340 engine.  Most do not realize the difference in % rpm between
ground idle and flight idle is only a few %.  The ground idle has to be 
so
high to keep the engine running efficiently.   


Noel


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[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paul Franz 
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Merlin GT
Sent: Friday, November 28, 2008 2:57 PM
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Subject: RE: Beta defined.


<paul@eucleides.com>


On Fri, November 28, 2008 7:06 am, Noel Loveys wrote:

> Lynn:

> 

> 

> 

> Beta, , is the second letter of the Greek alphabet.  Alpha, =E1, is 
the
first

> letter.  As props are primarily designed to pull or push a plane 
through
the

> air I'd assume that that would be the primary, #1 or Alpha job.  
Anything

> else is a second job or Beta.


As I said before, Beta is the prop angle. If negative, that gives 
reverse
thrust,

positive gives forward thrust.


But as I also said there is a colloquial use of the term as it applies 
only
to a

turboprop setup.


When a turbo prop is started it is at low idle power setting with the 
pitch
flat.

These engines are very slow to respond to throttle settings (power) and 
the
engine is

advanced to run in the fast idle range. In that range, if you want to 
get
the plane

rolling you do it not by advancing the throttle but by changing the prop
pitch and the

enormous inertia of the spinning engine and propeller allow for a 
quicker
response and

the plane begins to move. This technique can only be used in a narrow 
power
band

around fast idle. This power range where you can just change the pitch 
to
get the

plane to move has been called Beta, meaning the power range where you 
can
just change

beta to generate movement.


Here's an excerpt from how it works in a SAAB 340 with PL + CL:


( Happily plagiarized from

<http://www.airliners.net/aviation-forums/tech_ops/read.main/73083/> )


Basic operation

You have two levers for each engine, Power Lever (PL) and Condition 
Lever
(CL).


The range of the CL is divided into


    * Fuel off where the engine goes to feather (83.5 degrees pitch) and 
the
fuel is

cut off

    * Start, where you are supplying fuel to the engine but the prop is
still feathered

    * UNF, UNFeathered, where the prop is out of feathered and basically 
in
constant

speed mode trying to maintain 1180 RPM but without the bottoming 
governor
(more on

that later)

    * Min to max constant speed (CS) range where the prop RPM is 
controlled
to be

within 1180 RPM (min) and 1384 RPM (max).

    * T/M (torque motor) lockout, which will lockout, the engine control
unit (ECU, or

digital ECU, DECU, in B model a/c) if it malfunctions. Once T/M lockout 
is

activated, you have to shut down the engine (put the CL in fuel off) to
reactivate

it.


The power lever range goes from full reverse through ground idle (GI) to
flight idle

(FI) and then on up to full power. Below FI you are operating in the 
beta
range where

the PL position (unless the CL is in feather or you feather manually)
directly

controls the prop pitch from -16.5 to +10 degrees. Above FI there is a
minimum pitch

stop ranging from +10 (FI) to +25 (full power) degrees pitch. As you go 
from
PL full

aft to PL full forward, more and more fuel is added to the engine
(naturally) through

signals to the Hydro-Mechanical Unit (HMU). At low power settings (below
approx 30%),

this amount of fuel is not enough to spin the propeller up to the 
commanded
1180 RPM

at the pitch setting commanded by PL in beta range or at the minimum 
pitch
stop.


Why do we have a beta range? Due to the slow response to throttle 
setting
changes in

turbo engines it is very impractical to use the throttle to control 
movement
on the

ground. You would have to wait for the gas generator to spin up (Ng
increase),

providing more torque through the power turbine (PT) increasing the prop 
RPM
(Np). The

prop CS governor would then tell the pitch control unit (PCU) to 
increase
the prop

pitch and then you would get additional power. In beta mode, you change 
the
pitch

first instead using the inertia in the propeller system to provide 
thrust,
letting the

Ng accelerate or decelerate in response to Np to keep Np constant.


If the amount of fuel burned below 30% won=92t keep the prop spinning at 
1180
RPM, what

keeps it at constant speed in the beta range? This is where the 
previously
mentioned

bottoming governor (BG) comes into play. The BG is active when the CL is
above UNF and

will send a signal to the HMU to add fuel above what the PL setting is
dictating to

keep the Ng up. The normal reference Np for the BG is 1040 RPM but to 
give
more power

in full reverse the BG reference will change to 1200 RPM Np when the 
pitch
goes below

'10 degrees (<-10 on both engines on older versions).


CTOT

Early on it was discovered that the torque set in the beginning of the
take-off roll

would increase as the ram air effect increased with airspeed. To avoid
having to stare

at the torque (Nq) reading during the entire takeoff roll, decreasing 
the PL
setting

to keep it at 100% and not above a CTOT (Constant Torque on Take-OFF) 
system
was

added. When active, this system will signal to the HMU through the ECU 
to
add fuel

until the preset Nq is reached as soon as you set the PL above a certain
position.


AC

If an engine dies there=92s an autocoarsen (AC) system, which will 
detect
this. It then

proceeds to feather the dead engine automatically. There=92s an inbuilt 
safety
making it

impossible to feather both engines in flight should this system fail. 
The AC
system

continues to monitor a failed engine and will bring it out of AC mode 
should
the

engine parameters used to detect a flameout increase above the threshold
values again.


APR

340B a/c has something called automatic power reserve (APR) which when 
one
engine goes

into AC during CTOT operation automatically adds 7 percent units of 
torque
to the

other engine to compensate for the loss of thrust.


> As far as I know when the prop ceases to deliver thrust it can be
considered

> to be in beta operation...


No, beta is the prop angle. In "beta operations", as applied to 
turboprop
engines the

pitch angle is changed to provide either forward or reverse thrust 
briefly.


> reverse thrust is usually known as "Full Beta"


Well, maybe, but that would be negative beta or reverse beta. The 
reverse
beta angle

is usually much higher than the maximum forward or positive beta 
operation.
That does

not apply to higher power settings where reverse beta is blocked from
occurring and

much higher positive prop angles are allowed.


> all turbo prop engines require full beta operation.  Even on floats a 
Twin

> Otter will use full beta on landing to shorten the landing run out.  
On

> takeoff beta allows the turbine to spool up without load to deliver 
the

> torque required to spin the prop.


Some of this is colloquial semantics and not entirely correct, at least 
from
an

engineer's point of view.


-- 

Paul A. Franz

Registration/Aircraft - N14UW/Merlin GT

Engine/Prop - Rotax 914/NSI CAP

Bellevue WA

425.241.1618 Cell




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