Re: latex house paint


Subject:    Re: latex house paint
From:    AMsafetyC@aol.com
Date:    Wed Nov 26 - 10:04 AM
Gary,

Where would I get information on the Stewart System is there a web site I  
can review to become familiar with their system?

Please advise

Thanks 

John


In a message dated 11/26/2008 9:40:33 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
gboothe@calply.com writes:


John, 
Flex agents are  available for automotive paintsworks well, highly 
caustic, 
though, and you  would definitely want your own air supply. I learned this t
he 
hard way, and,  for that reason, am very interested in the Stewart  System. 

Gary  Boothe 
Cool,  Ca. 
Pietenpol 
WW Corvair  Conversion 
Tail done, working on  fuselage (endless metal parts!) 
(12 ribs  down)


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Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 6:10  AM
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Subject: Re: latex house  paint

I realize there is  much I do not know about many things so it surprises me 
to learn that an  automotive paint which I suspect would have been a solvent

based enamel could  adhere to a latex paint. It stands to reason the two 
materials are vastly  different in chemistry and properties.  


The typical enamel  automotive style coating would be a brittle material mor
e 
rigid and with  little flexibility other than its own expansion properties 
where as the  underlying a latex material is a more flexible rubber type 
material with  greater flex capability. When the skin needed to flex under l
oad, the 
top coat  automotive coating would be resistant to that mechanical stretchin
g 
and begin  to lose adhesion to its latex bonding base and chip off perhaps 
causing the  cloth to follow.


Although the use of  automotive paint sounds attractive and would permit a 
nice smooth and highly  more aerodynamic surface it doesn't sound practical 
over 
the latex base. I  suspect one would have to uses an automotive primer, base

coat and clear coat  system to do it all properly.


These are my own  though's of how materials work and behave. I call once 
again on the collective  wisdom and science of the experts and the coating G
ods to 
show me the  errors of my ways and point me the direction of truth.  


I would love to use  a latex base and get the ease of application and cost 
benefit  and the automotive finish topcoat if it is possible, practical and 
does 
 not compromise safety of flight. It seems that like the airplane the coatin
g 
 systems are a series of compromises and there is just something about a win
g 
 loosing its covering in flight is just a bit more adventure than I care  to

experience.


John


In a message dated  11/26/2008 8:44:46 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, 
taildrags@hotmail.com  writes:

-->  Pietenpol-List message posted by: Oscar Zuniga  <taildrags@hotmail.com>


Bill Church wrote-
> 
>  This is the first time that I have read that John Dilatush's (now  Greg
> bacon's) Piet was painted with Latex.
> Is this a recent  discovery?

Well, I went back and re-read the info from John (down  near the bottom, at 
http://www.westcoastpiet.com/steve_eldridge.htm ) and it  actually says that
 he 
used the Fisher method, which involves black latex  house paint as the 
primer, weave filler, and UV protection, and then applied  automotive enamel
 over 
that.  So I was only partially correct in what I  said.

On a completely different subject, I just noticed that Mike  Cuy's Piet has 
brass leading edges on the prop.  Hmmm... I don't  remember seeing that in t
he 
construction videos.  I sure like that look  on a prop for these airplanes.

Oscar Zuniga
Air Camper  NX41CC
San Antonio,  TX
mailto:  taildrags@hotmail.com
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