Peter it would be really nice if you added that drawing to your web site. Your
web site is a very good inspiration to Piet builders as is but that would be even
better.
Thanks,
Jim B.
Jim Boyer
Santa Rosa, CA
Pietenpol on wheels
Tail surfaces done
Wing ribs done
Corvair engine
On Nov 17, 2009, Peter W Johnson <vk3eka@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
Hi Guys,
I used Jim's plans for my spar.
When building, I make a quick drawing from the plans showing what I need to do
for that particular part and take that to the workshop, leaving the plans safe
in the office. I still have the notebook drawing I made to build the spars.
If I posted that on my web site, maybe people would have a better idea of what
is required. There are lots of photo's on page 4 of the builders log on the web
site. That way nobody needs to get upset.
What do you reckon??
Cheers
Peter
Wonthaggi Australia
http://www.cpc-world.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Willis
Sent: Wednesday, 18 November 2009 3:10 AM
To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: built up spars
It is a civil liability issue. The USA has about 75% of the world's lawyers and
generates about 95% of the world's lawsuits. US litigants have some standing
in UK courts, unlike in many countries which turn such suits away. Jim likely
wishes to continue speaking English in England and keeping his money and sanity...
good for him.
Maybe an interested builder can get dimensions on those caps and the web of the
built-up spar from a second source ("wink, wink, nudge, nudge, say no more").
Tim in central TX
no relation to Jim Wills
do not archive
-----Original Message-----
>From: Ryan Mueller <rmueller23@gmail.com>
>Sent: Nov 17, 2009 9:24 AM
>To: "pietenpol-list@matronics.com" <pietenpol-list@matronics.com>
>Subject: Re: built up spars
>
>
>Well, I don't see how procuring the UK plans is against the law in any
>way; Jim Wills just doesn't want to sell them to anyone here. If you
>were to acquire a set it would be against his wishes, but I highly
>doubt you would be breaking any laws.
>
>As far as holding Zenith spars up as an example of a strong, high
>quality design....you may want to reconsider that:
>
> http://www.eaa.org/news/2009/2009-11-12_safety_alert.asp
>
>They've developed such a tendency to shed their wings/break up in
>flight that the FAA has seemingly done all they can to require or
>strongly recommend no further flight until an extensive package of
>mods are completed on existing aircraft, and will not issue
>airworthiness certificates for any new aircraft that do not have the
>mods. Too bad for the Zenith guys...
>
>Ryan
>
>Sent from my mobile device
>
>On Nov 17, 2009, at 5:32 AM, baileys <baileys@ktis.net> wrote:
>
>>
>> I'm joining in on this one a bit. Years ago I too tried to get plans
>> for the built up spar the Brits have. As far as I as able to find out
>> there is simply no legal way of doing it and that is the end of that.
>> <snip>
>
>> Zenith Aircraft Company uses built up aluminum spars that are
>> (IMHO) probably cheaper that aircraft quality Sitka Spruce, stronger
>> and
>> weigh less too.
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