Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 26 Msgs - 03/06/10


Subject:    Re: Pietenpol-List Digest: 26 Msgs - 03/06/10
From:    Ross Alexander (karbath1@yahoo.ca)
Date:    Thu Mar 18 - 7:09 AM
Please delete me from the mailing list. I will be away for some time, and do not
want to clog up my email box. Thank you. Ross Alexander, happy owner of a Pietenpol
in Canada


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     1. 04:17 AM - Re: First Major Milestone  (helspersew@aol.com)
     2. 04:51 AM - Re: Construction Photos  (Jack)
     3. 04:57 AM - Re: First Major Milestone  (Jack)
     4. 06:47 AM - Re: First Major Milestone  (Jim Markle)
     5. 07:15 AM - Re: First Major Milestone  (Gary Boothe)
     6. 07:46 AM - Re: First Major Milestone  (Tim Willis)
     7. 09:42 AM - Re: First Major Milestone  (K5YAC)
     8. 10:11 AM - Wood  (William Colleran)
     9. 01:25 PM - Re: Wood  (Jack Phillips)
    10. 03:12 PM - Cool altimeter on ebay  (helspersew@aol.com)
    11. 04:06 PM - dimple tape  (airlion)
    12. 04:23 PM - Re: dimple tape  (Ben Charvet)
    13. 04:35 PM - Re: Re: Just Hello  (shad bell)
    14. 04:46 PM - Re: Wood  (K5YAC)
    15. 04:58 PM - Re: Wood  (Dan Yocum)
    16. 04:58 PM - Re: Wood  (Dan Yocum)
    17. 05:46 PM - Re: Wood  (Gary Boothe)
    18. 06:21 PM - Coverall Comps  (mr-fix-all)
    19. 06:43 PM - Re: Coverall Comps  (Tim Willis)
    20. 06:45 PM - Re: dimple tape  (Pieti Lowell)
    21. 07:05 PM - Re: Coverall Comps  (mr-fix-all)
    22. 07:14 PM - Re: Coverall Comps  (VanDy)
    23. 07:27 PM - Re: Coverall Comps  (mr-fix-all)
    24. 07:31 PM - Re: Wood  (Clif Dawson)
    25. 09:39 PM - Re: Wood  (Mike Townsley)
    26. 11:42 PM - Re: Wood  (Clif Dawson)


________________________________  Message 1  _____________________________________


Time: 04:17:21 AM PST US
Subject: Re: First Major Milestone
From: helspersew@aol.com


Mark,

Anytime you are proud of your work, and need to stand back and look, it's
a milestone. Very nice work. It must be great to get it out into the ligh
t. 

Keep plugging!

Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.


-----Original Message-----
From: K5YAC <hangar10@cox.net>
Sent: Fri, Mar 5, 2010 10:41 pm
Subject: First Major Milestone


I'm not sure if this is actually a milestone, but I'm feeling pretty good
about 
t.  I took my left wing panel off the jig today and trial fit the aileron.

oday was one of the first really nice days we have had in a long time, so
I 
ook my wing panel outside and set it on saw horses so I could look it over
in 
he sun light.  It all looks good so far.  I still need to install control

ulleys and LE sheeting, but the framework is complete.  
We measured the dimensions (front to rear spar - tip to root) and found th
at 
here is less than 1/8" difference in the measurements.  I was told that is

retty good.  
I also wanted to check my jig with the water level before to starting the
right 
ing panel... it hasn't moved since we locked it down, prior to starting 
ssembly on the let panel.
Here are a few photos.
--------
ark - working on wings


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________________________________  Message 2  _____________________________________


Time: 04:51:04 AM PST US
From: "Jack" <jack@textors.com>
Subject: RE:  Construction Photos


Great shots and comments Kevin, thank you!
Jack
DSM


Hi - I haven't been able to get ahold of the (sainted) west coast piet
webmaster to post construction photos of NX899KP.  The Girl taught me how to
post photos on a google blog.  Here's the link:

http://nx899kp.blogspot.com/

I'll continue to add pictures as I can.  If I have any notes I put them as
comments.

Best regards,
Kevin Purtee
NX899KP
Austin/Georgetown


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________________________________  Message 3  _____________________________________


Time: 04:57:21 AM PST US
From: "Jack" <jack@textors.com>
Subject: RE:  First Major Milestone


I agree, great milestone Mark, it get better every day!
Jack
DSM
Do not archive


I'm not sure if this is actually a milestone, but I'm feeling pretty good
about it.  I took my left wing panel off the jig today and trial fit the
aileron.  Today was one of the first really nice days we have had in a long
time, so I took my wing panel outside and set it on saw horses so I could
look it over in the sun light.  It all looks good so far.  I still need to
install control pulleys and LE sheeting, but the framework is complete.  

We measured the dimensions (front to rear spar - tip to root) and found that
there is less than 1/8" difference in the measurements.  I was told that is
pretty good.  

I also wanted to check my jig with the water level before to starting the
right wing panel... it hasn't moved since we locked it down, prior to
starting assembly on the let panel.

Here are a few photos.

--------
Mark - working on wings


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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=289365#289365


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http://forums.matronics.com//files/p3050412_768x576_128.jpg
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________________________________  Message 4  _____________________________________


Time: 06:47:22 AM PST US
From: Jim Markle <jim_markle@mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: First Major Milestone


It IS a milestone....you SHOULD feel pretty good about it....wow, this is great!

I got to spend the nice weather yesterday spreading gravel on my (800'+) driveway
and trying to get a 1951 tractor running (no spark...still!).

Looks like YOU had a LOT more fun!!!

Nice work Mark!


-----Original Message-----
>From: K5YAC <hangar10@cox.net>
>Sent: Mar 5, 2010 10:41 PM
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: First Major Milestone
>
>
>I'm not sure if this is actually a milestone, but I'm feeling pretty good about
it.  I took my left wing panel off the jig today and trial fit the aileron.
Today was one of the first really nice days we have had in a long time, so I
took my wing panel outside and set it on saw horses so I could look it over in
the sun light.  It all looks good so far.  I still need to install control pulleys
and LE sheeting, but the framework is complete.  
>
>We measured the dimensions (front to rear spar - tip to root) and found that there
is less than 1/8" difference in the measurements.  I was told that is pretty
good.  
>
>I also wanted to check my jig with the water level before to starting the right
wing panel... it hasn't moved since we locked it down, prior to starting assembly
on the let panel.
>
>Here are a few photos.
>
>--------
>Mark - working on wings
>
>
>Read this topic online here:
>
>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=289365#289365
>
>
>Attachments: 
>
>http://forums.matronics.com//files/p3050408_768x576_159.jpg
>http://forums.matronics.com//files/p3050410_768x576_118.jpg
>http://forums.matronics.com//files/p3050412_768x576_128.jpg
>http://forums.matronics.com//files/p3050413_768x576_133.jpg
>http://forums.matronics.com//files/p3050415_768x576_123.jpg
>
>


________________________________  Message 5  _____________________________________


Time: 07:15:54 AM PST US
From: "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net>
Subject: RE: First Major Milestone


Nice pics, Mark, thanks! I am still a big fan of your wing building jig.
That'll work great for me and my cramped work area. How about posting some
more in-process pics?

Gary Boothe
Cool, CA
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
18 ribs done

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of K5YAC
Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 8:41 PM
Subject: First Major Milestone


I'm not sure if this is actually a milestone, but I'm feeling pretty good
about it.  I took my left wing panel off the jig today and trial fit the
aileron.  Today was one of the first really nice days we have had in a long
time, so I took my wing panel outside and set it on saw horses so I could
look it over in the sun light.  It all looks good so far.  I still need to
install control pulleys and LE sheeting, but the framework is complete.  

We measured the dimensions (front to rear spar - tip to root) and found that
there is less than 1/8" difference in the measurements.  I was told that is
pretty good.  

I also wanted to check my jig with the water level before to starting the
right wing panel... it hasn't moved since we locked it down, prior to
starting assembly on the let panel.

Here are a few photos.

--------
Mark - working on wings


Read this topic online here:

http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=289365#289365


Attachments: 

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________________________________  Message 6  _____________________________________


Time: 07:46:01 AM PST US
From: Tim Willis <timothywillis@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: First Major Milestone


Mark,

Thanks for the pix.  It all looks great.

If you have them, I would like some more details, please.  I'd like to see pix--
both a side view and a top view of the wing tip bow and the curved aileron tip,
and how they line up and look together.  Perhaps your build is not quite there
yet-- the tips.  

In any event, I continue to have trouble visualizing exactly how that goes together.
I should have taken a stepladder and a closeup lens to Brodhead in 2006
or 2008.  
Thanks, Tim in central TX


-----Original Message-----
>From: K5YAC <hangar10@cox.net>
>Sent: Mar 5, 2010 10:41 PM
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: First Major Milestone
>
>
>I'm not sure if this is actually a milestone, but I'm feeling pretty good about
it.  I took my left wing panel off the jig today and trial fit the aileron.
Today was one of the first really nice days we have had in a long time, so I
took my wing panel outside and set it on saw horses so I could look it over in
the sun light.  It all looks good so far.  I still need to install control pulleys
and LE sheeting, but the framework is complete.  
>
>We measured the dimensions (front to rear spar - tip to root) and found that there
is less than 1/8" difference in the measurements.  I was told that is pretty
good.  
>
>I also wanted to check my jig with the water level before to starting the right
wing panel... it hasn't moved since we locked it down, prior to starting assembly
on the let panel.
>
>Here are a few photos.
>
>--------
>Mark - working on wings
>
>
>Read this topic online here:
>
>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=289365#289365
>
>
>Attachments: 
>
>http://forums.matronics.com//files/p3050408_768x576_159.jpg
>http://forums.matronics.com//files/p3050410_768x576_118.jpg
>http://forums.matronics.com//files/p3050412_768x576_128.jpg
>http://forums.matronics.com//files/p3050413_768x576_133.jpg
>http://forums.matronics.com//files/p3050415_768x576_123.jpg
>
>


________________________________  Message 7  _____________________________________


Time: 09:42:54 AM PST US
Subject: Re: First Major Milestone
From: "K5YAC" <hangar10@cox.net>


Thanks for the nice comments fellas.  For those that want to see most of my build
photos... you can go to my logbook site (posted below in my signature).  I've
tried to keep it current and relevant to the project, but there are a few "shop"
entries that pertain to equipment and such.  

For those that may not be familiar with mykitlog.com, just click on the link below
and when you get to my main page click the ALL link on the right side menu.
That will display all of my entries since I've started my project and you can
quickly browse for titles and which ones have photos.  I do have larger photos
available for anyone that is interested in specific details.  Perhaps Chris
would let me post some of my photos on West Coast Piet?  Maybe I'll shoot him
a note tonight.  

Gary, I got the idea for the vertical wing jig from Tony Bingelis' "Sportplane
Construction Techniques" (pg. 57).  It was super easy to build, and if you have
a solid work bench to clamp them to (see my photo above), you won't have to
anchor them to the ceiling.  I used a water level and shims to get mine leveled
up and it is working great.  Even if space isn't an issue, I think the vertical
configuration allows better access to the entire wing panel.  I could be wrong...
won't know until I try the other methods.  

Time to make sawdust!

--------
Mark - working on wings


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________________________________  Message 8  _____________________________________


Time: 10:11:32 AM PST US
From: William Colleran <bcolleran@comcast.net>
Subject: Wood


I just ordered my plans for my pietenpol.  Who do most of you order  
your wood from?


________________________________  Message 9  _____________________________________


Time: 01:25:56 PM PST US
From: "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr@bellsouth.net>
Subject: RE: Wood


I got most of mine from Wicks Aircraft Supply  http://www.wicksaircraft.com/
, and some from Aircraft Spruce and Specialty
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/

Jack Phillips
NX899JP
Raleigh, NC

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of William
Colleran
Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2010 1:07 PM
Subject: Wood

<bcolleran@comcast.net>

I just ordered my plans for my pietenpol.  Who do most of you order
your wood from?


________________________________  Message 10  ____________________________________


Time: 03:12:50 PM PST US
Subject: Cool altimeter on ebay
From: helspersew@aol.com


Hi Gang,

For anyone interested, there is an antique 4-1/4" "Height" gauge currently
on Ebay. Item # 270538280371. Price is currently $212.00. Not too bad so
far. I paid a lot more for mine. 


Dan Helsper
Poplar Grove, IL.


________________________________  Message 11  ____________________________________


Time: 04:06:54 PM PST US
From: airlion <airlion@bellsouth.net>
Subject: dimple tape


I am flying my hours off  and after 5 hours I am really impressed on how my ship
handles.  It really likes 85 mph at 2500rpm. and will easily go to 95 RPM at
2900 rpm.  On final approach to landing I am trying to get used the sink rate
for landing. I like to land power off like I was taught., but i FIND THAT IS
NOT POSSIBLE.  I have been reading about dimple tape as a somewhat solution. Have
any of you experienced pietenpollers tried this and does it work?  Thanks
guys, Gardiner Mason


________________________________  Message 12  ____________________________________


Time: 04:23:10 PM PST US
From: Ben Charvet <bcharvet@bellsouth.net>
Subject: Re: dimple tape


I too am flying off my hours.  Today was my first test of the $3 
elevator trim system I installed yesterday.  Prior to this I was holding 
a lot of back pressure for level flight.  I also added 1/2 inch of 
offset to the rudder.  Now I can fly hands off for a few seconds while 
fumbling around changing frequencies, etc.  Today was pancake EAA 
pancake breakfast day for my chapter.  When it came time to land the 
wind was blowing 8 kts right down the paved runway.  I basically flew it 
right down to the pavement at 65 mph and about 1000 rpm.  In spite of 
the large audience by carrying a little power I was able to do a nice 
wheel landing that was heard more than felt, pulled the throttle, pushed 
the stick forward, and still only rolled out about 150 ft.  My flight 
advisor suggested wheel landings, and I think they are best done with a 
little power on.

Only 19 hours to go!

Ben Charvet
Mims Fl

On 3/6/2010 7:04 PM, airlion wrote:
> -->  Pietenpol-List message posted by: airlion<airlion@bellsouth.net>
>
> I am flying my hours off  and after 5 hours I am really impressed on how my ship
handles.  It really likes 85 mph at 2500rpm. and will easily go to 95 RPM
at 2900 rpm.  On final approach to landing I am trying to get used the sink rate
for landing. I like to land power off like I was taught., but i FIND THAT IS
NOT POSSIBLE.  I have been reading about dimple tape as a somewhat solution.
Have any of you experienced pietenpollers tried this and does it work?  Thanks
guys, Gardiner Mason
>
>
>    


________________________________  Message 13  ____________________________________


Time: 04:35:45 PM PST US
From: shad bell <aviatorbell@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Re: Just Hello


Big Jim knows what engine your supposed to put on a Pietenpol, ha ha ha
(That's a Corvair if you didn't know)
Shad

PS looking forward to getting my ohio piet fly-in planning started, June 19th I
think I said, Whatever the day before father's day is.


      


________________________________  Message 14  ____________________________________


Time: 04:46:35 PM PST US
Subject: Re: Wood
From: "K5YAC" <hangar10@cox.net>


I got mine from Aircraft Spruce.  Aside from one minor, and one not so minor problem,
the material is great.  For the record (for those that weren't reading
the mail a few months ago), Aircraft Spruce quickly took care of both issues.

--------
Mark - working on wings


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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=289423#289423


________________________________  Message 15  ____________________________________


Time: 04:58:13 PM PST US
From: Dan Yocum <yocum@fnal.gov>
Subject: Re: Wood


If you're close to Madison, WI, check out McCormick's Lumber.

On 03/06/2010 12:06 PM, William Colleran wrote:
> <bcolleran@comcast.net>
>
> I just ordered my plans for my pietenpol. Who do most of you order your
> wood from?
>
>

-- 
Dan Yocum
Fermilab  630.840.6509
yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."


________________________________  Message 16  ____________________________________


Time: 04:58:47 PM PST US
From: Dan Yocum <yocum@fnal.gov>
Subject: Re: Wood


Oh, and I recently heard a rumor that The Hardwood Connection in 
Sycamore, IL carries aircraft grade spruce.

Dan

On 03/06/2010 12:06 PM, William Colleran wrote:
> <bcolleran@comcast.net>
>
> I just ordered my plans for my pietenpol. Who do most of you order your
> wood from?
>
>

-- 
Dan Yocum
Fermilab  630.840.6509
yocum@fnal.gov, http://fermigrid.fnal.gov
"I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things."


________________________________  Message 17  ____________________________________


Time: 05:46:23 PM PST US
From: "Gary Boothe" <gboothe5@comcast.net>
Subject: RE: Wood

William,

Those who have been on this list for a while know that I would be remiss if
I did not point out that you are not locked in to using A/C Spruce. I have
Hemlock in my tail, and the rest is Poplar, including the ribs. All was
bought at a local hardwood supplier for under $300.

Gary Boothe
Cool, CA
Pietenpol
WW Corvair Conversion
Tail done, Fuselage on gear
18 ribs done


-----Original Message-----
From: owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-pietenpol-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of William
Colleran
Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2010 10:07 AM
Subject: Wood

<bcolleran@comcast.net>

I just ordered my plans for my pietenpol.  Who do most of you order  
your wood from?


________________________________  Message 18  ____________________________________


Time: 06:21:16 PM PST US
Subject: Coverall Comps
From: "mr-fix-all" <jb.spiegel@us.schneider-electric.com>


All,

I submit for your critique 2 comps I have created.
These can be resized and placed almost anywhere.


enjoy

--------
&quot;Be who you are and say what you think, those that mind don't matter, and
those that matter don't mind&quot;   Dr. Seuss


Read this topic online here:

http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=289433#289433


Attachments: 

http://forums.matronics.com//files/mobil_150.pdf
http://forums.matronics.com//files/piet2_139.pdf


________________________________  Message 19  ____________________________________


Time: 06:43:11 PM PST US
From: Tim Willis <timothywillis@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Coverall Comps


The Pietenpol coverall graphic is very appealing to me.  I love the "pulled from
an angel" look of the wings and the "circus" look of the script.  I'd like to
hear more from others.

Do I understand that a fellow could iron this on his plane in one version, and
on his coveralls in another, adjusting for size?  Are these to be vinyl or what?

Thanks,
Tim in central TX


-----Original Message-----
>From: mr-fix-all <jb.spiegel@us.schneider-electric.com>
>Sent: Mar 6, 2010 8:19 PM
>To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
>Subject: Coverall Comps
>
>
>All,
>
>I submit for your critique 2 comps I have created.
>These can be resized and placed almost anywhere.
>
>
>enjoy
>
>--------
>&quot;Be who you are and say what you think, those that mind don't matter, and
those that matter don't mind&quot;   Dr. Seuss
>
>
>Read this topic online here:
>
>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=289433#289433
>
>
>Attachments: 
>
>http://forums.matronics.com//files/mobil_150.pdf
>http://forums.matronics.com//files/piet2_139.pdf
>
>


________________________________  Message 20  ____________________________________


Time: 06:45:26 PM PST US
Subject: Re: dimple tape
From: "Pieti Lowell" <Lowellcfrank@yahoo.com>


Ben, 
I'm waiting with baited breath, to hear the flying data on the 612 wings that are
in the works. The glide is not anyway near the glide you are experiencing ,
nor the sink rate as fast.
Pieti Lowell


] 

I am flying my hours off  and after 5 hours I am really impressed on how my ship
handles.  It really likes 85 mph at 2500rpm. and will easily go to 95 RPM at
2900 rpm.  On final approach to landing I am trying to get used the sink rate
for landing. I like to land power off like I was taught., but i FIND THAT IS
NOT POSSIBLE.  I have been reading about dimple tape as a somewhat solution.
Have any of you experienced pietenpollers tried this and does it work?  Thanks
guys, Gardiner Mason


    

[/quote][/quote]


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________________________________  Message 21  ____________________________________


Time: 07:05:57 PM PST US
Subject: Re: Coverall Comps
From: "mr-fix-all" <jb.spiegel@us.schneider-electric.com>


It is possible that you could have these made into a heat transfer, these are possible
silkscreenings for the coveralls that have been discussed here.  

With some research I could silk screen this onto a fabric swatch that could be
affixed to your finished craft.  

I will be posting other comps as I complete them.

Jake

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those that matter don't mind&quot;   Dr. Seuss


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Time: 07:14:34 PM PST US
Subject: Re: Coverall Comps
From: "VanDy" <matthew.vandervort@gmail.com>


i would love to have 2 of each that could be made into t-shirts!  heat transfer
or silkscreen

do not archive


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________________________________  Message 23  ____________________________________


Time: 07:27:59 PM PST US
Subject: Re: Coverall Comps
From: "mr-fix-all" <jb.spiegel@us.schneider-electric.com>


Here is my 3rd spin 

Jake

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________________________________  Message 24  ____________________________________


Time: 07:31:05 PM PST US
From: "Clif Dawson" <CDAWSON5854@shaw.ca>
Subject: Re: Wood


If you down a ways on this page you will see a chart
of wood strength and weight;

http://clifdawson.ca/Tools_and_Tips.html

My plane is entirely Western Hemlock with Fir Landing
Gear and Cabanes. I have found 1" wide Fir planks for my
Spars.

Clif

The voyage of discovery is not in seeking new landscapes, but in having new 
eyes.
-Marcel Proust -


> William,
you are not locked in to using A/C Spruce. I have
> Hemlock in my tail, and the rest is Poplar, including the ribs. All was 
> bought at a local hardwood supplier for under $300.
>
> Gary Boothe


________________________________  Message 25  ____________________________________


Time: 09:39:59 PM PST US
From: Mike Townsley <allischalmersguy@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Wood


Cliff,
Where did you go to find that wood?
Thanks
Mike Townsley

Clif Dawson wrote:
>
> If you down a ways on this page you will see a chart
> of wood strength and weight;
>
> http://clifdawson.ca/Tools_and_Tips.html
>
> My plane is entirely Western Hemlock with Fir Landing
> Gear and Cabanes. I have found 1" wide Fir planks for my
> Spars.
>
> Clif
>
> The voyage of discovery is not in seeking new landscapes, but in 
> having new eyes.
> -Marcel Proust -
>
>
>> William,
> you are not locked in to using A/C Spruce. I have
>> Hemlock in my tail, and the rest is Poplar, including the ribs. All 
>> was bought at a local hardwood supplier for under $300.
>>
>> Gary Boothe
>
>


________________________________  Message 26  ____________________________________


Time: 11:42:53 PM PST US
From: "Clif Dawson" <CDAWSON5854@shaw.ca>
Subject: Re: Wood


The longerons and wing rib caps are carefully chosen
trim material from lumber yards. I was extremely
picky so I made regular rounds to five yards. The
spar material is very unusual and only comes in 5"
and 6" widths. I found it in a higher end place that
carries better materials usually.

The longerons are 1 1/16" square stuff that is used as
a backing when building up fancy, complicated
moldings.

Clif

> 
> Cliff,
> Where did you go to find that wood?
> Thanks
> Mike Townsley


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