Re: static thrust


Subject:    Re: static thrust
From:    David Paule (dpaule@frii.com)
Date:    Thu Nov 19 - 8:53 PM
As long as the diameter is not too large for the maximum rpm, greater 
diameter is more efficient.

If you imagine a graph of speed on the horizontal axis and efficiency on 
the vertical axis, increasing the diameter causes the efficiency to go 
up. Lowering the pitch causes the efficiency to occur at a lower speed. 

Of course you've got to make sure that your prop isn't too long for the 
engine. And that takes a balance between pitch and diameter, plus some 
of the art of building props. And that art, alas, is beyond me. I'm 
merely an engineer.

David Paule


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  Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 7:26 PM
  Subject: Re: static thrust


  David

  All true.  I must admit that making the prop (per Alvin Schubert) was 
probably my favorite part of building the Piet so far.  I did build it 
66 inches, with the intent of trimming an inch or two to get more RPM if 
needed.  I will have to see what more RPMs but a smaller disk does to 
the thrust.  Experimental aircraft right!

  Malcolm Morrison

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: "David Paule" <dpaule@frii.com>
  To: pietenpol-list@matronics.com
  Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 9:17:49 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada 
Eastern
  Subject: Re: static thrust

  =EF=BB 
  A lower-pitch prop will give you higher static RPM and greater static 
thrust. If you are otherwise happy with the prop, that's the only change 
needed. Besides, your next prop will be faster to make and possibly 
better, right?

  David Paule


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    Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 6:37 PM
    Subject: Re: static thrust


    Dan

    I have the results of my static thrust testing at 
http://home.comcast.net/~mmorrison123/engine_test.html.  Corvair with a 
homemade prop.  2500 RPM static giving 280 lbs thrust.  I spoke with 
William Wynne at Oshkosh, and he indicated that for a Piet I should be 
more like 2700 RPM and 350 lbs thrust.  I may look at getting a Warp 
prop.  It is highly likely that the factory can make a better prop than 
I can.

    Malcolm Morrison

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    Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 7:49:50 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada 
Eastern
    Subject: Re: static thrust


    Gentlemen,

    Has anyone done a static thrust test on their flying airplane (or 
almost flying?). I have measured 265 lbs. with my Model A and my 76/46 
prop. I would be curious how this stands up to others.

    Dan Helsper
    Poplar Grove, IL.


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