It really is just a matter of comparison between States in the US. I sure
don't envy your situation where you are in Europe.
I lived in Oregon for 30 years and to be honest I loved it for most of that
time. I still miss the mountain views but not the cold weather. When the
economy slows down you don't worry about income tax because you don't make
any money anyway. The property taxes will kill you under that circumstance.
The break from sales tax is nice but if you decide to build anything prepare
for building permits, SDC's, and other add on cost to be a whopping multi
10's of thousands of dollars. If you want to live on an airpark too bad
because Oregon is not friendly about that and it is nearly impossible to
build one.
So we moved to Texas. Airparks are everywhere. Now the cost of insurance
is killing us as most of our insurance has doubled in cost. The cost to
heat our house went down dramatically but the cost to cool it went up
dramatically. There is no winning situation, you just pick what you like
and what you want. One upside to Texas was I know live in a state where I
vote with the majority. While I lived in Oregon it was a primarily
Republican area but the only parts of the state where it was Democrat had
all the population. Voting was a waste of time since it never went how I
would vote.
Bottom line is there is no real point in this discussion because no matter
where you go if you are inclined to be unhappy it won't change. Just the
issues of what makes you unhappy change. Pick your best bet and then when
you are no longer happy, move again.
I love flying my RV and I wish I was doing that now. In fact everyone take
the day off and go fly and then report back on how nice that was. :-)
We still live in the greatest country and are able to still fly for a little
while longer. See ya
Tim
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From: owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Thilo Kind
Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2010 7:58 AM
To: rv-list@matronics.com; rv-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Taxes
Hi Dean,
I had quite a laugh reading your e-mail. I currently live in Europe (second
home is Coventy, GA). More than half of my salary goes to income tax, health
care and retirement fund (which will give me only a few hundred Euros per
month, when I retire with 67). Sales tax is 19 %. You don't want to know
about fuel including Avgas. Restricted land use? A piece of land here is
more than land plus house in the US... Oregon sounds like paradies...
I guess, it's all a matter of perspective.
Cheers
Thilo
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> Datum: Tue, 16 Mar 2010 21:04:44 -0400
> Von: "DEAN PSIROPOULOS" <dean.psiropoulos@verizon.net>
> An: rv-list@matronics.com
> Betreff: Taxes
> <dean.psiropoulos@verizon.net>
>
>
> I also lived in Oregon Chuck:
>
> All that Chris says is correct however, he leaves out the most important
> thing that you need to consider. Oregon has one of the most OUTRAGEOUS
> STATE INCOME TAXES in the country, 9% of every dollar you earn!!! NINE
> PERCENT!! Unless you are retired or have your own business, prepare to
> get
> raped by the state. I've lived all over the country and the only place
> else
> I've lived that comes close is Delaware at 7%. Most states that have
> income
> taxes average around 3%. I now live in Florida which has 6% SALES tax but
> NO state income tax. If you want warm weather year around but no rip offs
> from the big nanny states consider coming to the southeast. No mountains
> but
> otherwise nice people and low cost of living.
>
> Everyone who contemplates moving for a job should check on the income tax
> from the state where you plan to move. One can avoid most sales taxes if
> you don't buy big ticket items like cars but, if you work for someone
> other
> than yourself, there is NO WAY to avoid state income taxes. In Oregon
> that's nearly 10 cents out of every dollar that goes to the politicians to
> buy votes, absolutely a rip off.
>
> Also Oregon has very restrictive land use and environmental laws. The
> consequence of that is artificially higher housing prices and government
> confiscation of property when deemed necessary for conservation. Chris
> may
> not have heard of this but when I was there I heard of folks (with creeks
> running through their property) that had some of their land confiscated
> for
> the sake of preserving the creek!! If you want more of the same liberal
> politics that you have in CA then Oregon is the place for you, lots of
> bleeding heart politicians who want your land and money. The year after I
> left they enacted a 2% sur-charge on TOP of the income tax (that 11%
> total)
> for a few years to quash the budget deficit there. I was glad to leave
> and
> will never reside there again. I will be back to visit, in summer when
> the
> sun is out, temps are moderate and the mountains are majestic. But I'd
> choose Idaho or Utah if I absolutely HAVE to live in the mountains.
>
> Dean Psiropoulos
> RV-6A N197DM
> Flying, but finishing up some extraneous items
>
>
>
> --------------Original Message 2--------------
> From: Chris Stone <rv8iator@earthlink.net>
> Subject: Re: Taxes
>
>
> Hello Chuck...
>
> We left 15 years ago. Never looked back. Oregon No sales tax No A/C tax
> A/C and pilot registration fee: $30/yr. Real property tax depends on
> county. Typ is 1.25-1.75% of assessed value of land+improvements. No
> personal property tax.
>
> Chris Stone
> RV-8
> Oregon
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chuck Weyant
>
> Subject: Taxes
>
> We're moving out of California. Too many taxes/fees
> For those of you who live in NV, AZ, OR, Montana
> or NM what do you pay for:
> 1. Sales tax percent (if any) for
> airplanes purchases
> 2. Yearly fee/taxes for airplanes
> 3. Annual real estate property tax for
> personal residence and/or hanger
>
> Thanks,
> Chuck
>
>
>
>
>
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