NO! NO! NO! DON'T GO ASKING A TYPE CERTIFICATE FOR AN AIRCRAFT!!!! You
have far more freedom with experimental certificates. I would not be pleased
at
all!!
Jim "Pappy" Goolsby
In a message dated 8/18/2008 4:24:02 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
jan.mevis@informavia.be writes:
Thanks Richard. So if I understand it well, we would be all pleased if the
Russians would be so kind to provide a Type Certificate for our Yaks and
Sukhois ? (And the Chinese for the Nanchang ?) Or is this already the case, but
there simply are no bi-lateral agreements ?
Jan
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[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Richard Goode
Sent: maandag 18 augustus 2008 18:25
To: YAK USA LIST
Subject: N Registered Yak aircraft
N Registered Yak aircraft
Certification
Sadly, I have been forced to spend years delving into this whole issue of
registrations, during the period were we had problems in Europe attempting to
get legal registrations for Yaks and Sukhois. The essential position is:
* Only Type-Certificated aircraft can obtain Normal Category
Certificates of Airworthiness.
* A Normal Category Certificate of Airworthiness is valid in any
ICAO-Signatory country. Also the process of Type Certification tends to be
controlled with bi-lateral agreements between countries, so, as a principle, an
aircraft Type Certificated in one country will normally be accepted in another
country relatively easy.
* The problem then occurs with Non-Certificated aircraft. As a
practicality some 40% of aircraft in the UK are Non-Type Certificated, and I
suspect that the figure is probably fairly similar in the US.
* Unfortunately there is no uniformity as to how individual countries
handle Non-Certificated aircraft - indeed each country has total flexibility
to do what it thinks is best.
* So Non-Certificated are allowed to fly in many countries with the
paper being called "Experimental"; "Restricted"; "Permit to Fly" etc.
* A critical issue is then that the Airworthiness documents for a
Non-Certificated aircraft are, by legal definition, ONLY valid in the country
of
issue.
* They can however be made valid in other countries by virtue of a
"Over-Fly" Permission from the National Aviation Authority in the country over
which the flying is occurring.
* Then, there is no uniformity as to what might be granted. For
example the German LBA will give Annual "Over-Fly" Permission to Lithuanian
Restricted Category aircraft such as Yak-52s etc. Conversely the UK will only
give 30 days in total per annum for such aircraft.
* So, all Yaks and Sukhois in the US are not Type Certificated; are
therefore registered in "Experimental", and therefore that registration is not
valid outside the USA without Over-Fly Permission.
* For the Red Bull aircraft, you will find that they obtained Dutch
Over-Fly Permission for them to compete in Rotterdam.
* An important point is that there is virtually no legislation
PREVENTING Non-Certificated aircraft flying in most countries. The problem is,
however, to convince the local NAA that they should give a form of Experimental
/ Restricted - in most cases they feel that is too much hassle and refuse!
Ownership
* A totally separate issue is that of Ownership. In principle, most
countries legislate that only citizens / corporate entities of that country
can register aircraft there. In the case of Europe, any European can own any
aircraft registered in any other European country.
* In the US of course, an aircraft can be owned by a trust, and that
trust can, I believe, be owned by a foreign National.
* Certainly in Europe it is not difficult for non-Europeans to set up
companies only for the purpose of aircraft ownership, and then that company
then becomes a Registered Owner.
Richard Goode Aerobatics
Rhodds Farm
Lyonshall
Herefordshire
HR5 3LW
United Kingdom
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