RE: Re: RED ALERT - Safety Review


Subject:    RE: Re: RED ALERT - Safety Review
From:    Roger Kemp MD (viperdoc@mindspring.com)
Date:    Thu Oct 09 - 10:56 AM
Someone yesterday said a WOW switch would not work on the YAK? Why? We are
talking about a weight on wheels switch. I disables the up circuit on the
gear handle. Since we have a manual slide lock a simple micro circuit could
be added to the slide lock that when there is weight on the wheels and the
slide lock is open there is gear warning horn or beep beep in the head set.
With enough bucks you could even have a synthetic "Bitching Betty" saying
"check gear, check gear". (or whatever you want to say, like" take your
&*^%$#@ hands of the gear handle!") Yes, when you slide the slide lock open
for TO you would get that warning also. For a few folks I have seen TO, that
may not be such a bad idea either. The radar altimeter could also be
incorporated for a ground proximity warning also on landing warning of gear
up landing when there is no weight on the wheels.

Just a thought.

Doc


From: owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-yak-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of doug sapp
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 12:12 PM
To: yak-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Re: RED ALERT - Safety Review


Guys,

As Elmar and Mark pointed out, it's already been built, it has been
available for years.  The sticking point is the $1250.00 uninstalled cost
and to a somewhat lesser degree the mentality that "it won't happen to me".
TJ and I have talked about all this before.  But if we are going to to drag
this horse out and beat it some more I would like to restate my opinion,
knowing full well that with it and $1.50 you can get a cup of coffee.   


At the risk of being drug out of my office and summarily tarred and
feathered I would (somewhat cautiously suggest) that if we REALLY want to be
proactive on this gear warn issue IMHO the only way to enact it across the
board is a UP charge on our insurance premiums.  This upcharge would be
refunded upon the installation of a acceptable gear warn system.  Reading
TJ's curent email I also assume that once it was installed we could enjoy a
reduction of our annual premiums also.  As unpopular as it may be to suggest
yet another increase in our flying expenses, I honestly think this may be
the only way to get everyone's attention and have a real impact on the
problem of gear up landings.  


Retracting the gear on the ramp is yet another issue and must be delt with
in another manner.


Always Yakin,

Doug

On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 6:38 PM, Tim Gagnon <NiftyYak50@fuse.net> wrote:



tjyak50 wrote:
> We've gone around and around on this subject for years.
> There is always a way to find a reason why each system isn't perfect.
>
> So nobody does anything.


Build it and they will come.


Read this topic online here:

http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 7999#207999


-- 
Always Yakin,
Doug Sapp
Phone 509-826-4610
Fax 509-826-3644




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