Re: Re: The future of Nanchangs?


Subject:    Re: Re: The future of Nanchangs?
From:    Chris Wise (wise@txc.net.au)
Date:    Fri Nov 20 - 12:54 PM
Doug,

I am interested in these Total seal pistons and rings that you mention.

What is the big benefit of these rings and pistons versus factory parts?
Are they available for the M14P engines and at what cost?

Thanks,
Chris.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: doug sapp 
  To: yak-list@matronics.com 
  Sent: Saturday, November 21, 2009 3:23 AM
  Subject: Re: Re: The future of Nanchangs?


  Listers and lurkers,
  The days of 10 to 15K HS6A 1st or 2nd overhauled engines are long 
over.  Look forward to 20 to 25K pricing by spring (if they are even 
available).   A 9 to 10K top overhaul (parts only) is looking like the 
best and most cost effective way to go since most of the lower ends are 
still in pretty good shape and are designed to run 2000 to 2500 hours 
even on Chinese oils.  A top overhaul installed with the Total Seal 
pistons and rings would breath new life (and a bit more hp) into the 1st 
and second overhaul engines now in service.  We plan to be stocking top 
overhaul kits by spring of 2010.  


  Barry is correct about the R985 being too heavy, but there are other 
engines out there, like the M462RF (I am installing one right now), the 
AI14, and the M14B (not P) just to name a few, but there simply is no 0 
time 10 to 15K engines out there to be had.  I have one NEW HS6A engine 
which I bought several years ago in a group of overhauled engines, we 
have installed the Total Seal rings in it and am holding it in reserve 
in case the R462RF engine does not work out.  This engine will be for 
sale in the spring if all goes well with the 462 installation.  I know 
of no other HS6A new or overhauled engines for sale in the US at this 
writing.


  Mag coils are another concern, maybe more so than replacement engine 
issue as the supply in Russia is near 0, China is nearly out and it's 
factory is shut down, it is reported that Europe has near 0 stock.  To 
this end we are in the process of contracting with a US manufacturer to 
do a small production run.  When they become available I would highly 
recommend that everyone stock at least one coil as a spare because based 
on the world wide reports of existing inventories I fully expect the 
first run to be sold out maybe even before it is produced.  A second run 
is not possible until fall of 2011.  


  All the best from Omak,
  Doug and Kathleen Sapp 


  On Fri, Nov 20, 2009 at 7:57 AM, barryhancock 
<bhancock@worldwidewarbirds.com> wrote:

<bhancock@worldwidewarbirds.com>

    Pappy, you speak blasphemy!!!  If it ain't round, stay on the 
ground, brother! [Wink]

    We have done a rough engineering study on putting a 985 on a CJ and 
it just doesn't work.  You could get around the fact that the engine is 
6" bigger in diameter, but the weight is just too much more.  You'd be 
better off throwing that R&D into domestic overhaul capabilities for the 
Housai.

    Happy Flying,

    Barry

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    Worldwide Warbirds, Inc.
    www.worldwidewarbirds.com


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