RE: Re: ch701 Plans


Subject:    RE: Re: ch701 Plans
From:    Roger & Lina Hill (hills@sunflower.com)
Date:    Mon Dec 01 - 12:15 PM
I think you can build a plane of WOOD from scrap, if you know what your
looking for and oversize questionable pieces, but the Zenith line uses the
thinnest aluminum I have ever seen on a plane, and I agree it's critical to
use metal at least as strong as the 6061, and only if it is heat treated to
the  proper levels as this makes a big difference in the strength as well.
If you go with 2024 aluminum, you have the corrosion problem to account for
as well


Roger


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From: owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-zenith-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
jaybannist@cs.com
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2008 12:49 PM
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Subject: Re: Re: ch701 Plans


Bob, 

I agree.  However, I don't think this young man understands the serious
nature of this project he wants to undertake.  1) Building an airplane is
absolutely not like building a kid's pedal car from scrap aluminum, 2) An
airplane design is a VERY complicated thing, not to be "thumb-ruled" or "by
guess and by goshed",   3) Unless it is the proper alloy and temper (6061-T6
or 2024-T4), scrap aluminum has no place in an airplane, 4) simply
oversizing does not ensure safety,  5) a haphazard approach to constructing
an airplane can result in DEATH. 

I feel that Steven's approach to this project is MUCH too casual and is
potentially dangerous. I am afraid for him.

I would like to encourage Steven to do some serious study and investigation
about airplane building before attempting to build an airplane from a
tattered, out of date, partial set of design drawings, trying to guess at
the missing parts and adlibbing with available  materials, simply because
they are available.

Jay In Dallas


-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Collins <bobcollins42@gmail.com>
To: zenith-list@matronics.com
Sent: Mon, 1 Dec 2008 12:17 pm
Subject: Re: Re: ch701 Plans


I'm sorry, but sarcasm doesn't convey well in text. We have a naive and
confused young man who would very much like to build something and I would
hope that he might get some useful advice but, at worst, he shouldn't be
made fun of. 

Bob Collins 
CH750 plans waiting 

Flydog1966@aol.com wrote: 
> That's an excellent idea. 
> > In a message dated 12/1/2008 11:28:31 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, >
gotosteven@HOTMAIL.COM writes: 
> 
> <gotosteven@hotmail.com> 
> 
> thanks for the great advise i do realize you guys are worried when 
> i say scrap, but that is why i am oversizeing many things as 
> possible eg if it says 0.25 i use 0.40 if it says 1 L bracket i 
> will put 2 back to back as for the bolts i will be purchaseing the 
> proper ones i also have very nice plates of alluminim like 1/2 
> inch thick and 3/4 inch thick i am sure will be usefull as well 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Read this topic online here: 
> 
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=217170#217170 
> 
> 
> 


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