Hello,
Looking at the web version of the matronics list, I normally get it
via email. I see the answer to the
why we are taught turns around a point to get our private pilot
licence, did not come though.
It is because to many pilots crash while circling their own house
during a fly by or buzz job.
I got my ticket in 1990, and I have read too many of this reports.
Before the XL. Back then we did not post things on youtube back then,
back then when I rented the plane I worried what the last pilot did
with it. Did he think anyone with flying skills could be a Bob Hoover?
Part 23 gave more margin. The FAA wanted industry to build a better
and cheaper plane. Older planes were over built.
Now we are overbuilding the XL, and nobody sees it.
Does the whole LSA Spec need to change for pilots who are going to ,
loop, buzz, and beat their machines until they fall apart? How many
loops does it take to break a XL? Good Loops, not ones that you pull
too hard on the "light controls".
Most people blame lawsuits for killing GA or part 23. Is this the
first shot at LSA?
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On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 9:20 PM, ernie <ernieth@gmail.com> wrote:
> Look what we are dealing with
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>>1 G is 1 G
>>IF you know what you are doing and have the flying skills to back it up you can
loop and roll most >planes.
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> If I was the NTSB i would be saying to the FAA, why did you think you
> were doing with light sport.
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> You know why they teach turns around a point do get your ticket right?
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> to many pilots crashing while circling their house.
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> On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 8:52 PM, Bill Naumuk <naumuk@windstream.net> wrote:
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>> Your're comparing apples and cumquats.
>> The coffee trick was performed by Bob Hoover, one of the top 5 test
>> pilots of all time. He didn't pull that stunt out of his butt- it was part
>> of the airshow routine paid for by Rockwell, who built the plane he was
>> flying and employed him to fly it. All speeds and G loads were calculated in
>> advance, and practiced while wearing a chute and usually with a backup
>> pilot. I don't think it classifies as a "Stupid pilot trick", and the 707
>> roll didn't either.
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>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "ernie" <ernieth@gmail.com>
>> To: <zenith601-list@matronics.com>
>> Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 7:25 PM
>> Subject: Re: Re: Zenith test results "fractures or
>> immediate"
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>>> Karl,
>>> I think they told him not to do it again. I got that from TV show with
>>> the WWII ace, Hover, (SP)? that fills his coffee cup doing a roll.
>>> Cool stuff.
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>>> On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 7:11 PM, Karl Polifka <jfowler120@verizon.net>
>>> wrote:
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>>>> <jfowler120@verizon.net>
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>>>> Ernie,
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>>>> There a quite a few stupid pilot tricks described on this website. BTW,
>>>> that 707 roll sold a lot of airplanes. It also, if I remember correctly,
>>>> cost the pilot his job -- but I may be wrong on that.
>>>>
>>>> Karl
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>>>> From: "ernie" <ernieth@gmail.com>
>>>> Sent: Sunday, November 15, 2009 6:57 PM
>>>> To: <zenith601-list@matronics.com>
>>>> Subject: Re: Re: Zenith test results "fractures or
>>>> immediate"
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>>>>>
>>>>> Yep,
>>>>> Nobody out there is doing stupid pilot tricks.
>>>>> E.
>>>>> Do not archive
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>>>>> On Sun, Nov 15, 2009 at 6:43 PM, chris Sinfield
>>>>> <chris_sinfield@yahoo.com.au> wrote:
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>>>>>> <chris_sinfield@yahoo.com.au>
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>>>>>> 1 G is 1 G
>>>>>> IF you know what you are doing and have the flying skills to back it up
>>>>>> you can loop and roll most planes.
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>>>>>> Haver a look at the B707 being rolled over Seattle he was a test pilot.
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>>>>>> Most people do not have the skills and knowledge to roll and loop an
>>>>>> LSA.
>>>>>> 1G can easily turn into 6+ G's and then the structural integrity is
>>>>>> lost.
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>>>>>> remember they are good LSA planes fly them and treat them as they were
>>>>>> designed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>> Zodiac XL
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>>>>>> Read this topic online here:
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>>>>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=272959#272959
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