Czech-Archive.digest.vol-aa
April 02, 2000 - November 25, 2012
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| From: | dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle 925-606-1001) |
Welcome to the Czech-List email list at Matronics!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Admin.
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Matt G. Dralle | Matronics | P.O. Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 Voice | 925-606-6281 FAX | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ W.W.W. | Featuring Products For Aircraft
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | All New BBS Interface For Matronics List Forums! |
Dear Listers,
I'm very proud to announce a completely new BBS interface is now available for
all of the Email Lists at Matronics! This is a full-featured system that allows
for viewing, posting, attachments, polls - the works.
But the best part is that it is *completely* integrated with all of the existing
email tools currently available at Matronics! What this means at the most basic
level is that, if you post a message to List from Email in the traditional
way, it will show up on the BBS system *and* get distributed to everyone currently
subscribed to the Email List. By the same token, if you are on the BBS
and post a message to a given List-Forum, the message will not only show up on
the BBS, but also be distributed to everyone on the Email List!!
It is really a very nice implementation and I am very pleased with its operation.
All of the tools you have come to know and love such as the List Search Engine
and List Browse and Download will still be available and contain all of the
latest posts. Think of the new BBS interface as just another method of accessing
the all of the Lists.
You can use the BBS to view all of the latest posts without having to do anything
except use your browser to surf over to the site. You can view and look at
all of the various List's posts. If you want to post a new message or reply
to an existing message from the BBS, you will have to Register on the BBS. This
is a *very* simple process and will only take a couple of minutes. There is
a small icon in the upper righthand side of the main BBS page labeled "Register"
to get you started.
I strongly recommend that you use the exact *same* email address you are subscribed
to the Email Lists with when registering on the BBS. Also, while not an
absolute requirement, I would really appreciate it if people would use their full
name when choosing their Username on the BBS (for example "Matt Dralle").
This just makes it easier for everyone to know who's posting. Also, I have enabled
the ability to upload a small user picture with your profile called an
"avatar". Please use a *real* picture of yourself *with* your cloths on! Thank
you! Maximum size of the bitmap is 120x120.
You can either be subscribed to the BBS, or any number of Email Lists, or both.
Registering on the BBS will allow you to email directly to all of the various
Lists. However, to receive direct List Email, you will need to be *subscribed*
to the various Lists as you have in the past. No changes here in operation.
I have added numerous links on the BBS pointing to the Email List subscription
page.
I've had the BBS connected to the Lists for about a week now, so its already loaded
up with a fair number of messages. You can post photos and other documents
directly to the BBS and links to them will appear in the List Email distributions.
Also, when any messages posted to the BBS are viewed in the List Email
distribution, there will be a URL link at the bottom of the message pointing
back to the BBS.
And here's what you've been waiting for -- the main URL for the new Matronics Email
List BBS is:
http://forums.matronics.com
Please surf on over, Register, and have a great time! I think this will be the
dawn of a whole new era for the Lists at Matronics!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
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| Subject: | Allegro aircraft |
| From: | "Bob Griffin" <airgriff2(at)aol.com> |
I was wondering if there are any Allegro owners monitoring this list?
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Fly Safe
Bob Griffin
Slingerlands, NY
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=6710#6710
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Six New Email Lists / Forums At Matronics! |
Dear Listers,
Its my pleasure to announce the addition of six new Email List / Forums to the
aviation line up at Matronics! These new lists support all the usual features
you've come to know and love from the Matronics Email List including full integration
with the All New Web BBS Forums Site!! The new Lists include:
LycomingEngines-List Textron/Lycoming Engines
RotaxEngines-List Rotax Engine for Aircraft
M14PEngines-List Vendenyev M14P Radial Engine
MurphyMoose-List Murphy Moose Aircraft
Allegro-List Allegro 2000, a Czech-built, Rotax-powered Aircraft
Falco-List Sequoia Aircraft's Falco Experimental
To sign up for any or all of the new Lists, surf over to the Matronics Email List
Subscription Form and follow the instructions:
http://www.matronics.com/subscribe
Don't forget to check out the All New Web BBS Forum now available along with all
of the usual message and archive viewing tools at the Matronics Email Lists
site. Surf over to the following URL for information on the BBS Forum:
http://forums.matronics.com
Enjoy the new Lists!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Matronics Email List Wiki! |
Dear Listers,
I have added a new feature to the Email List Forums at Matronics called a Wiki. What's "Wiki" you ask? A Wiki is a website. You go to it and browse just like you would any other web site. The difference is, you can change it. You can put anything you want on this web site without having to be a web designer or even being the owner. You can write a new page just like writing an email message on the BBS. You don't need to send it off to anyone to install on the site. It is kind of like a Blog (weblog) in which anyone can post. Here is a great page on where the term Wiki came from and what it means in the context of a website: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiki
So on to the new Matronics Email List Wiki... I've created this site for anyone
from any of the Email Lists to use. I envision that there are a great many
things that can be added to this new Wiki since there are always new and interesting
tidbits of useful information traversing the Lists.
Off the main Matronics Email List Wiki page, you will find a link called "Community
Portal". Here you will find more links to stubs for all the various Lists
found at Matronics (and a few other links). Brian Lloyd and others from the
Yak-List have already begun adding content in a number of areas. Bob Nuckolls
of AeroElectric fame has added a great article on "Ageing Aircraft".
I have discussed the new Matronics Email List Wiki with Tedd McHenry and Dwight Frye of the RV Wiki Site and they have decided to merge their site over onto the new Matronics Wiki server giving everyone a single source for information on RV building and flying! This migration will begin today and you should be able to find all of the content currently found at www.rvwiki.org moved over to the Matronics Wiki within a few days.
To make edits to the Matronics Wiki, you will need to have a login account on the
Matronics Wiki and I have disabled anonymous edits. This protects the Wiki
site from automated spam engines and other nuisances that could compromise the
data at the site.
Signing up for an account is fast and easy and begins by clicking on the "create
an account or log in" link in the upper right hand corner of any page. Note
that you do not have to have a login or be logged in to view any of the content.
The Matronics Email List Wiki is YOUR Wiki! It is only as useful as the content
found within. The concept of the Wiki is that the people the use it and update
it. If you've got an interesting procedure for doing something, MAKE A WIKI
PAGE ON IT! You can even upload pictures. Saw something interesting at a
flyin? MAKE A WIKI PAGE ON IT! Don't be shy, this is YOUR site to share information
with others with similar interests.
Here is a users guide on using the Wiki implemented at Matronics: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Contents This gives a lot of great information on how to get started editing pages.
And finally, here is the URL for the Matronics Email List Wiki:
http://wiki.matronics.com
Brian Lloyd has written an excellent introduction to Wikis on the front page.
I encourage you to read it over, then drill into the "Community Portal" and HAVE
FUN!!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | "Jim Pellien" <jim(at)pellien.com> |
| Subject: | 2005 Zenair 601XL Demonstrator For Sale - Save over $12,000 |
Mid-Atlantic Sports Planes is selling its 2005 Zenair 601XL SLSA
Demonstration Aircraft (N601VA , highlighted in a number of different
aviation magazines and also in Popular Mechanics Magazine in the April 2006
issue).
Save over $12,000 off the new price. Only has been used for 300 flight
hours. Meticulously maintained and Inspected every 50 hours. Will deliver
anyplace within 1000 miles of Washington, DC for FREE. We will delivery
anytime after our new airplane arrives on May 29th. This aircraft, because
it has been certified as an SLSA, can be used for commercial flight
training and commercial rentals.
EQUIPPED WITH:
Air Speed Indicator
Altimeter
Vertical Speed Indicator
Engine Instruments
Hobbs Meter
Dual control sticks with PTT and Electric Aileron and Elevator Trim *****
Extra Cost Option
Aluminum HD Gear System with 5.00X5 wheels
Tinted Canopy with Lock
Dual Toe Brakes
Electric Flap Control
Electric Elevator Trim with Indicator (button control on stick)
Electric Aileron Trim with Indicator (button control on stick)
Cabin Heat
Two Color Paint Upgrade ***** Extra Cost Option
Wing Lockers L+R wings
Vertical Card Compass Upgrade ***** Extra Cost Option
Garmin GTX 327 Transponder (with AK-350 encoder & antenna) ***** Extra
Cost Option
Garmin GNC-250XL Communications and GPS ***** Extra Cost Option
Intercom PS Engineering PM 1000 ***** Extra Cost Option
ELT AK 450 ***** Extra Cost Option
Strobe Lights ***** Extra Cost Option
Navigation Lights ***** Extra Cost Option
Landing Light ***** Extra Cost Option
Lighted Panel ***** Extra Cost Option
Cabin Cover ***** Extra Cost Option
Leather Seats ***** Extra Cost Option
Regular Price: $91,506
Selling Price: $79,000
Jim Pellien
Mid-Atlantic Sports Planes
The Mid-Atlantic Region of SportsPlanes.com
www.MASPL.com
703-313-4818
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Matronics BBS Forums |
Hello Listers,
I just wanted to send out a reminder to all of the Listers regarding the new-ish
BBS (Bulletin Board System) Forums that are available at Matronics for the Email
Lists. The BBS Forums give you Web-based access into the same email content
that is generated by the Email Lists. When an email message is posted to
any of the email lists, a copy of the message is also copied to the respective
List forum section on in the BBS Forums. By the same token, when a message is
posted within the BBS Forum interface context, it will also be posted to the
respective email list.
Basically, the BBS Forums give you yet another method of accessing the Matronics
Email List content. Some people prefer email, some prefer web forums; now you
can have it either way or both with the Matronics Lists!
You'll have to register for a login/password on the BBS Forum to _post_ from the
BBS, but you can view message content without registering for an account. To
Register for an account, look for the link at the top of the main BBS Forum
page entitled "Register". Click on it and follow the instructions. Site Administrator
approval will be required (to keep spammers out), but I will try to
get these approved in less than 24 hours.
If you haven't yet taken a look at the Matronics Email List content over on the
BBS Forum, surf on over and take a peek. Its pretty cool. The URL is:
http://forums.matronics.com
I want to stress that the BBS Forums are simply an adjunct to the existing Matronics
Email Lists; another way of viewing and interacting with the Matronics List
content. If you like Email, great. If you like Web Forums, great. If you
like both, great. Its up to you how you view and create your content.
You will also find a URL link at the bottom of this email called Matronics List
Features Navigator. You can click on this link at any time to find URL links
to all of the other great features available on the Matronics site like the Archive
Search Engine, List Browse, List Download, FAQs, Wiki, and lots more.
There is a specific Navigator for each Email List and the link for this specific
List is shown below.
Thanks for all the great list participation and support; it is greatly appreciated!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Two New Email Lists at Matronics and Wiki Reminder! |
Dear Listers,
I have added two new email Lists to the Matronics Line up today. These include
a Continental engine List and a Lightning aircraft List:
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continental-list(at)matronics.com
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Continental-List
Everything related to the Continental aircraft engine. Sky's the limit on discussions
here.
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lightning-list(at)matronics.com
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Lightning-List
This is an exciting new design from Arion Aircraft LLC in Shelbyville Tennessee. Pete Krotje has a very nice web site on the aircraft that can be found here: http://www.arionaircraft.com/
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Also, if you haven't checked out the new Matronics Aircraft Wiki, swing by and
have a look. Remember, a Wiki is only as good as the content that the members
put into it. Have a look over some of the sections, and if you've got some interesting
or useful, please add it to the Wiki! Its all about YOU! :-) The
URL for the Matronics Wiki is:
http://wiki.matronics.com
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | List Enclosure Support |
Dear Listers,
Over the years, I have resisted the urge to enable enclosure support on the Matronics
Lists for a number of reasons relating to performance, capacity, capability,
and security. However, its now 2006 and most everyone using email these
days is on an email client that, at some level, supports the viewing and handling
of enclosures. I get a fair amount of email each month from people on the
various Lists asking why their posts of this or that picture didn't go through.
Back quite a while ago by popular request, I enabled enclosure support for a few
Lists such as the RV10-List, Kolb-List, and the Tailwind-List. Contrary to
my fears, there really hasn't been any significant issues on these Lists relating
to the advent of enclosure support and for the most part, members have policed
themselves well with respect to the size of things they have posted.
Having enclosures enabled on some Lists and not others has given me a fair amount
of headaches with respect to filtering messages and content since the formats
are often quite different between a typical MIME encoded message and a generic
plain-text message. The spammers are getting more cleaver all the time and
are constantly trying to thwart my best efforts at keeping them from posting
to the Lists.
So, for these reasons, I've have decided to go ahead and enable limited enclosure
posting on all of the email Lists at Matronics. This will not only increase
the utility of the Lists, but will afford me a better opportunity to filter
out the chaff.
Here are some of the features and limits of enclosures on the Matronics Lists:
1) Enclosures will only be posted to the Real Time version of the
Lists.
2) Enclosures will NOT be included in the Daily Digest version of
the Lists.
3) Enclosures WILL BE forwarded on to the BBS Forum Web site.
4) Enclosures will NOT be appended to the Archives.
5) Enclosures will NOT be available in the List Browse feature.
6) Only the following file types and extensions will be allowed:
jpg, bmp, gif, txt, xls, pdf, and doc
All other enclosures types will be rejected and email returned to
sender. The enclosure types listed above are relatively safe from
a virus standpoint and don't pose a particularly large security risk.
7) !! All incoming enclosures will be scanned for viruses prior to posting
to the List. This is done in real time and will not slow down
the process of posting the message !!
Here are some rules for posting enclosures. Failure to abide by these rules could
result in the removal of a subscriber's email address from the Lists.
1) Pay attention to what you are posting!! Make sure that the files
you are enclosing aren't HUGE (greater that 1MB). Remember that there
are still people checking they're email via dial up modem. If you post
30MB worth of pictures, you are placing an unnecessary burden on these
folks and the rest of us, for that matter.
2) SCALE YOUR PICTURES DOWN!!! I don't want to see huge 3000 x 2000
pictures getting posted that are 3 or 4MB each. This is just
unacceptable. Use a program such as Photoshop to scale the picture
down to something on the order of 800 x 600 and try to keep the
file size to less-than 200KB, preferably much less.
Microsoft has a really awesome utility available for free that allows
you to Right-Click on a picture in Explorer and automatically
scale it down and resave it. This is a great utility - get it, use it!
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/downloads/powertoys/xppowertoys.mspx
Look for the link "Image Resizer"
3) !! This would seem to go without saying, but I'll say it anyway. Do not
post anything that would be considered offensive by your grandmother.
And you know what I'm saying; I don't want to see anything even
questionable. !!
4) REMEMBER THIS: If you post a 1MB enclosure to a List with 1000 members
subscribed, your 1MB enclosure must be resent 1000 times amounting
to 1MB X 1000 = 1 Gigabyte of network traffic!! BE CAREFUL and BE COURTEOUS!
I hope everyone will enjoy the added functionality of enclosures. Please police
yourself and use good judgement when posting messages with enclosures using
the guidelines I've outlined above.
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | "hgmckay" <hgmckay(at)bellsouth.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Allegro aircraft |
Bob:
Yes, I monitor the list periodically.
Hugh McKay
hgmckay(at)bellsouth.net
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=45563#45563
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| From: | "jim" <jim(at)pellien.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Allegro aircraft |
Hello Everybody,
I'm thinking about buying one of the new Allegro SLSA's and wanted to hear what
your opinion is of these aircraft.
Jim
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>Bob:
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>Yes, I monitor the list periodically.
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>Hugh McKay
>hgmckay(at)bellsouth.net
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>Read this topic online here:
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>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=45563#45563
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Sent via the WebMail system at mail.pellien.com
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| From: | "Roger Lee" <ssadiver1(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Allegro aircraft |
Hi,
Before you buy an Allegro you need to look at the CTSW.
I just bought a CTSW.
www.flightdesignusa.com
or type in CTSW on the search engine.
I looked at the Allegro and it's a nice plane, but no comparison to the CTSW. There
is a huge difference in the specs.
To name a few differences:
faster top end
carries its own weight in useful load
34 gal. fuel, over 1080 miles on a tank
110 lbs. bagage storage
49 in. wide cockpit
adjustable seat (fore/aft, up/down)
easy entry into cockpit
14:1 glide ratio
the list goes on and on.
Roger Lee
Tucson, Az.
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Roger Lee
Tucson, Az.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=50857#50857
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| From: | NYTerminat(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: Allegro aircraft |
Roger,
Looks real nice, I couldn't find any info on what they cost. Can you give me
a ballpark figure??
Thanks
Bob Spudis
In a message dated 7/30/2006 8:19:19 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
ssadiver1(at)yahoo.com writes:
Hi,
Before you buy an Allegro you need to look at the CTSW.
I just bought a CTSW.
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| From: | "Chip W. Erwin" <aircraft(at)czaw.cz> |
| Subject: | Re: Allegro aircraft |
Before you buy a CT, check out the SportCruiser.
WWW.AIRPLANE.CZ
Chip W. Erwin
CZECH AIRCRAFT WORKS
LUCNI 1824
686 02
STARE MESTO, CZECH REPUBLIC
TEL: +420 572 543 456
FAX: +420 572 543 692
USA FAX: 772-264-0936
Mobile: +420 602 342 717
E-MAIL: AIRCRAFT(at)CZAW.CZ
-----Original Message-----
[mailto:owner-czech-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Roger Lee
Sent: Monday, July 31, 2006 2:17 AM
Hi,
Before you buy an Allegro you need to look at the CTSW.
I just bought a CTSW.
www.flightdesignusa.com
or type in CTSW on the search engine.
I looked at the Allegro and it's a nice plane, but no comparison to the
CTSW. There is a huge difference in the specs.
To name a few differences:
faster top end
carries its own weight in useful load
34 gal. fuel, over 1080 miles on a tank
110 lbs. bagage storage
49 in. wide cockpit
adjustable seat (fore/aft, up/down)
easy entry into cockpit
14:1 glide ratio
the list goes on and on.
Roger Lee
Tucson, Az.
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Roger Lee
Tucson, Az.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=50857#50857
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| From: | "Roger Lee" <ssadiver1(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Allegro aircraft |
Hi All,
The price starts at 92k.
The price sheets are on the web site. On the Flight Design web site look under
dealers, then open their web sites and they have price sheets and lots of pics
on each site. I flew one and it was a really nice aircraft. It handles nice,
plus I'm not a little guy and we took off at over an 8k desity altitude and we
just leaped in the air. It just takes off by itself. If you type in CTSW you
can find lots of stuff written about the CTSW. You can also find forums. In 4
months of research I have not found one bad thing about them. I believe in the
Aug. issue of "Kitplane" magazine it is called the top selling LSA in the U.S.
If not the Aug. issue then look in July issue. It is factory built, you do no
building. You can get just about any type of instrument panel you want. I got
a Dynon D100 and D120 glass panel set up. You can get leather seats if you want.
Comes with a BRS chute as standard equipment. A lot of things on this plane
are standard equipment while other mfgs. offer everything as options, plus
Flight Design uses good stuff.
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Roger Lee
Tucson, Az.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=50903#50903
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| From: | "Roger Lee" <ssadiver1(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Allegro aircraft |
Back Again,
Looked at the Sport Cruiser. Here are a couple of quick things I noticed. I didn't
see a price while on their web site.
CTSW vs Sport Cruiser
High wing (better visability) Low wing
wing span very close
length 20' and some " 21' and some "
empty weight approx. 680 lbs. 705 lbs.
useful load approx. 680 lbs. 615 lbs.
cabin width 49" 46"
climb rate 800 - 1,000fpm 1,000 - 1,200 fpm
fuel 34 gal. 30 gal.
vne 192 mph 150 mph
range 1080 miles (longer) 745 nm
adjustable seats(fore/aft, up/down) i don't think they move
lots off leg room for even long legs more cramped
large seperate cargo hold 110 lbs. luggage behind your head
(smaller area)
very easy access into plane more confined
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Roger Lee
Tucson, Az.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=50911#50911
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| From: | "Roger Lee" <ssadiver1(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Allegro aircraft |
P.S.
I'm sorry that I did not mention on my last post that I thought the Sport Cruiser
was a nice plane, but my money was on the CTSW. I'm sure you couldn't go wrong
witheither plane. I did not mean to offened anyone with my comparison. Just
comparing.
Roger
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Roger Lee
Tucson, Az.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=50912#50912
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Matronics Email List Web Server Upgrade Tonight... |
Dear Listers,
This evening I will be upgrading the Matronics Web Server hardware to a new Quad-processor
2.8Ghz Xeon system (yes, 4-physical CPUs!) with an Ultra 320 SCSI
Raid 5 disk system and 5GB of DDR2 RAM.
As with the older system, the new system will be running the latest version of
Redhat Linux. Most of the software configuration work is already done for the
migration, but I still have to sync all of the archive and forum data from the
old system to the new system. I am anticipating about 2 to 3 hours of downtime
for me to fully make the transition, although it could be considerable less
if everything goes according to plan.
The Matronics Webserver will be *UNavailable* from the Internet during the work,
and you will receive a time-out if you try to connect during the upgrade.
Email List Distribution will be *available* during the upgrade of the Web Server,
and List message distribution will function as normal.
This represents a significant performance upgrade for the Matronics Web Server
and you should notice nicely improved searching and surfing performance following
the upgrade!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | New Incoming Message Size Limit Implemented... |
Dear Listers,
Due to a number of requests to limit the size of incoming posts to the Lists because
of the recently added enclosure feature, I have add a new filter that will
limit the total size of any given message posted to the List. I have initially
set the limit to 2MB
and we'll see how everyone likes that.
If a member attempts to post a message that is greater than the set limit, they
will receive an email back indicating that their message wasn't posted to the
List and why. Also included in the message will be the current size limit and
how large their message
was.
Some might say that 2MB is still too large, but its a place to start...
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Comcast Was Blocking Matronics Email Lists... |
Dear Listers (Specifically Comcast Listers),
For about the last two days, Comcast was blocking incoming email from the Matronics
Email Lists because their spam filters thought the mail was spam. I was
that people on Comcast are receiving List messages again.
If you are a Comcast user, you might want to email them and express your displeasure
with their Spam blocking policy, particularly as it relates to "matronics.com".
Sorry for the hassle...
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Admin
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Matronics Email List Fund Raiser - November! |
Dear Listers,
Each November I hold a PBS-like fund raiser to support the continued operation
and upgrade of the List services at Matronics. It's through these sole Contributions
of List members that these Matronics Lists are possible.
You have probably noticed that there are no banner ads or pop-up windows on any of the Matronics Lists or related web sites such as the Forums site ( http://forums.matronics.com ), Wiki site ( http://wiki.matronics.com ), or other related pages such as the List Search Engine ( http://www.matornics.com/search ), List Browse ( http://www.matornics.com/listbrowse ), etc. This is because I believe in a List experience that is completely about the sport we all enjoy - namely Airplanes and not about annoying advertisments.
During the month of November I will be sending out List messages every few days
reminding everyone that the Fund Raiser is underway. Each message will generally
highlight a particular feature or benefit of the Matronics Lists or detail
a new feature or service that was added this year. I ask for your patience
and understanding during the Fund Raiser and throughout these regular messages.
The Fund Raiser is only financial support mechanism I have to pay all of the
bills associated with running these lists.
Once again, this year I've got a terrific line up of free gifts to go along with
the various Contribution levels. Most all of these gifts have been provided
by some of the vary members and vendors that you'll find on Matronics Lists and
have been either donated or provided at substantially discounted rates.
This year, these generous people include Bob Nuckolls of the AeroElectric Connection (http://www.aeroelectric.com/), Paul Besing of Aeroware Enterprises aka Kitlog Pro (http://www.kitlog.com/), Andy Gold of the Builder's Bookstore (http://www.buildersbooks.com/), and Jon Croke of HomebuiltHELP (http://www.homebuilthelp.com/).
These are extremely generous guys and I encourage you to visit their respective
web sites. Each one offers a unique and very useful aviation-related product
line. I would like publicly to thank Bob, Paul, Andy, and Jon for their generous
support of the Lists again this year!!
You can make your List Contribution using any one of three secure methods this
year including using a credit card, PayPal, or by personal check. All three methods
afford you the opportunity to select one of this year's free gifts with
a qualifying Contribution amount!!
To make your Contribution, please visit the secure site below:
https://www.matronics.com/contribution
I would like to thank everyone in advance for their generous financial AND moral
support over the years. I know it sounds a little cliche, but you guys really
do feel like family.
Thank you for your support!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Have You Tried The New Matronics List Forum? |
Hello Listers,
One of the major new additions to the Matronics Email Lists this year was the addition
of a new and full function Forum Web Site at:
http://forums.matronics.com
The best part of these new Forums is that they are tied directly to the Classic
email distribution Lists! That also means that posts go in both directions.
If you post a message on the Forum web site, it will be cross posted to the respective
Email List. And, if you post a message to a particular Email List,
it will be cross posted to the same respective forum on the Forum site!
So, no matter what your content viewing pleasure is - either direct email distribution
or web-based GUI interface, you can have it at the Matronics Email Lists!
Won't you make a Contribution to support these Lists? It is your SOLE Contributions
that make their continued operation and upgrade possible!
The Contribution site is Fast, Easy, and Secure. Please surf over and make your
Contribution today:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you!!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Wow, Cool! New List Feature... [Please Read] |
Dear Listers,
By popular suggestion, I've written a substantial new code module for the Matronics
Email Lists system. Here's how it works...
During each November, I send out quite a few PBS-like "Please make a Contribution
to support your List" emails. Wouldn't it be cool if, once a member made a
Contribution, they didn't have to receive my support pleas anymore for the rest
of that year?
Well, that's exactly what I've written! Following this posting, anyone that makes
a List Contribution in 2006 will no longer receive my Contribution Pleas for
the rest of the year!
The best part is this not only applies to the Realtime distribution, but also the
Digest distribution! For those that have made a Contribution, the Daily Digest
email-version will be invisibly stripped of my requests as well! (Note that
my requests will still be present in the online versions of the Digests, List
Browse, and on the Forum site.)
For those submitting their Contribution by personal Check, please be sure to include
your email address along with your Check as this is what is used to determine
eligibility.
So, in a nutshell, here's how it works:
Make a Contribution = No more "Please Make a Contribution" messages!
How sweet is that? If that's not a great reason to jump on the Matronics Email
List Contribution site and make your donation today, I don't know what is!
Don't forget that there are some totally awesome free gifts to be had along with
your List Contribution this year!! Don't wait a minute longer to support your
Lists!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you for your Support!!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | If You Got This Email, You Haven't Made A Contribution Yet! |
:-)
If you received this particular Matronics List Email message, its because you haven't
yet made a Contribution to support your Lists! This is the first PBS-like
funds drive message under the new distribution system. The new system selectively
sends out the Contribution messages ONLY to those that forgot to whip
out the 'ol credit card this year to support the continued operation and upgrade
of the Matronics Email Lists! Don't you wish PBS worked that way? :-)
You heard that right. Once you make your Contribution, these support requests
messages during November will suddenly stop coming to your personal email inbox!
Pardon me if I seem kind of excited about the new feature. I've wanted to
implement something like this for a number of years now, but it was always such
a daunting task to modify the back-end List processing code, that I just kept
putting it off. Finally this year, I just decided to bite the bullet and put
the code-pounding time it to make it work. A few days later, bam! A working
system!
Anyway, I'll stop gushing now. I really do appreciate each and every one of your
individual Contributions to support the Lists. It is your support that enables
me to upgrade the hardware and software that are required to run a List Site
like this. It also goes to pay for the Commercial-Grade Internet connection
and to pay the rather huge electric bill to keep the computer gear running
and the air conditioner powered up.
Your personal Contribution matters because when combined with other Listers such
as yourself, it pays the bills to keep this site up and running. I accept exactly
ZERO advertising dollars for the Matronics Lists sites. I can't stand
the pop-up ads and all other commercialism that is so prevalent on the Internet
these days and I particularly don't want to have it on my Email List site.
I'm pretty sure you don't either.
If you appreciate the ad-free, grass-roots, down-home feel of the Matronics Email
Lists, please make a Contribution today to keep it that way!!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Clarification On New Contribution Module Operation... |
Dear Listers,
A number of Listers emailed and indicated that, even though they had made a Contribution
this year, they still received the Contribution message yesterday.
I looked into it and I found a slight anomaly (ok, bug) in the new code specifically
as it related to Listers that had made their Contribution through PayPal
AND have a DIFFERENT email address for their PayPal account and for their Matronics
List subscription.
If your PayPal account email address is DIFFERENT than the email address you are
subscribed to the Matronics List(s) as, then my new code module couldn't tell
that you had made a Contribution, since it was using the PayPal email address
instead of the List email.
I've fixed this issue for any new PayPal Contributions, but I don't have any easy
way of resolving this for any of the previous Contribtuions. Again, this is
ONLY an issue if your PayPal and Matronics List email addresses ARE NOT the
same. Otherwise, everything works great.
If you made a PayPal Contribution before 11/09/06 AND your email addresses don't
match, please drop me an email at " info(at)matronics.com " (do not reply to this
message!) and give me your Name, and both Email Addresses and I will manually
update the records so that things will work as advertised.
Sorry for the hassle! New code; new bugs... :-)
To make a Contribution, please see: http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administration
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
Dear Listers,
I added a new Wiki web site to the Matronics Email List features earlier this year. What's a Wiki, you ask? Well, here's the Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wiki) definition:
A wiki (IPA: [ w .ki ] or [ wi .ki ] ) is a type of Web site
that allows the visitors themselves to easily add, remove, and otherwise edit
and change some available content, sometimes without the need for registration.
This ease of interaction and operation makes a wiki an effective tool for
collaborative authoring. The term wiki also can refer to the collaborative software
itself (wiki engine) that facilitates the operation of such a Web site,
or to certain specific wiki sites, including the computer science site (an original
wiki), WikiWikiWeb, and on-line encyclopedias such as Wikipedia.
Under the Matronics Email List Moniker, there is now a very nice List-specific
Wiki available! It a place for Listers to put articles about any aviation topic
that suits them. The purpose is to provide what the mailing lists do not:
structure and persistence. The mailing lists are a fantastic resource to ask
a question and get good (and bad and funny and annoying) answers. But once the
question is asked and answered it is not in front of the List anymore. If a
new person subscribes the next day, he/she does not see that information unless
he/she goes to the trouble to search the archives, a hit or miss proposition.
The result is that the same thread of conversation gets created and/or revisited.
There are several things that happen as a result:
1. The person gets his or her question answered;
2. The information gets better as more people think about and answer the question;
3. The people who have seen the same question asked and answered get annoyed
at seeing the same things over and over and over and ...
So this is where the Wiki comes in. You know what questions you wanted answered.
You may have asked or answered the question. You know the information is useful.
So you put the information here, in the Matronics Email List Wiki!
It doesn't matter that this information is 100% complete or correct. Just writing
something creates a placeholder and makes useful information available immediately.
It has the same immediacy as the mailing list but it has persistence
and structure.
But what if the information is incomplete or incorrect? No problem! Anyone else
coming along can edit the article! If I write something and you discover something
I have left out or stated incorrectly, you can fix it right then!
So let's begin and make this the place for information about building, flying,
maintaining, and understanding our airplanes.
But what about whether something is "appropriate" or not? Don't worry. Write
it down. Let the reader determine whether or not it is appropriate. If it is,
he/she will read it. If it isn't, he/she won't. It's as simple as that.
And when you do write that article you won't have to worry about whether some editor
is going to decide whether or not to print it in a newsletter or whether
the webmaster will have time to put it up on the web page.
The last question I hear brewing out there is: if anyone can post anything, won't
this just become a mass of garbage? Surprisingly, the answer is a resounding
no. If you want proof, go visit the Wikipedia, a free-to-everyone encyclopedia
written by whoever wants to write articles. The articles there are as good
as anything I have read anywhere and anyone can add anything anytime they want
to.
So don't hesitate. Write it down. Put it here. It will never hurt anyone. The
more information we get here, the more useful it will become to other people
and the more information they will put here for YOU to use.
Here's the URL to start (there are lots more bured under this starting place):
http://www.matronics.com/wiki/index.php/Matronics:Community_Portal
But please don't forget that this Wiki and all of the other Matronics Email List
features are supported solely by YOUR Contributions!! November is List Fund
Raiser month and there are lots of Free Gifts to be had with your qualifying
Contribution. Please make a Contribution to support the continued operation and
upgrade of these great services!!! Thank you!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | WLAS [Please Read] |
Dear Listers,
I sat down at the 'ol computer tonight to have a look at a few of the nice comments
List Members have been including along with their Contributions this year.
I was amazed at how many I found and even more amazed at some of the very nice
things Listers have been saying about the Lists and how valuable the they
are to them.
I've included quite a few of these nice comments below. Please read over some
of this great Lister feedback. No doubt you will find that you agree with at
least one or two of those comments - maybe all of them! If you find that do,
won't you please make a Contribution to support these Lists today!! Its fast
and easy with the Matronics List Contribution Web Site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Don't forget that I've now fully implemented the new *List Fund Raiser Squelch*
feature that will automatically intercept any future iterations of my "Please
Contribute" messages -- that is, *once you've made YOUR Contribution*! How cool
is that? (Make sure the email address you enter along with your Contribution
matches exactly your subscribed List email address. An exact match is how
it works.)
Thank you for your generous Contributions this year and for all the wonderful comments!!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
================= What Listers Are Saying (WLAS) ================
Absolutely the best deal on the Internet!!
-Owen B
I love The Matronics...
-Robeto B
My wife has her soaps & I've got my lists!
-Hal B
These lists are, indeed, the lifeline of our hobby.
-Bob R
The best source of information for my a/c.
-Tony C
The Zenith list is the first thing I read in the morning.
-Herbert H
You do more good than you can imagine. I wish I'd known
about you while I was building my Kitfox, but you are
still an after-the-fact resource.
-Ben B
..an excellent site.
-Ashley M
The "List" has been the ultimate help for my Zenith
CH 701 project!!
-Brian U
I appreciate the list being here for me.
-Geoff H
..a great service.
-William C
The List continues to be an interesting and useful facility.
-David M
Your list is a constant goad to keep me working on my project.
-Thomas S
..a great service.
-Robert W
The Pietenpol list is a great resource.
-Benjamin W
The Yak-list is Awesome!
-James S
..great service.
-Robert S
The features you have implemented recently have you poised
to knock out yahoo groups...
-Danny D
I like how your forum looks/works and the list service...
-Ken E
..great service.
-David P
Very useful web site.
-Wayne E
..a very valuable service.
-Chris D
Great sites...
-Randall R
I used to look at [that other] site also but it's gotten so
cluttered with advertising that I've stopped looking at it.
-Wayne E
Without your services, the build would be a grope in the dark...
-Fergus K
The information and help I've received greatly outweighs the
donation...
-Lee P
..great service!
-Christopher D
I really don't think I could be building my plane without the
wisdom I find on this list.
-William G
It really makes building a pleasure.
-James P
..great service.
-Doug W
I'm getting near the end of my build (Europa tri XS) don't
think I could have done it with out the help of the forum.
-Stanislaus S
Marvelous service. Couldn't have done it without you.
-Jim G
Love the list, this is a wonderful way to help others...
-Michael S
..good service.
-Derek L
The list is responsible for helping me complete this project
and educating me in the process.
-Jeff D
Definitely worth the donation.
-Ron L
..great service to the aviation community.
-Tony P
I have been flying my plane for 5 years (RV-6) but I still
get valuable information from this service.
-Don N
A very helpful site.
-Roland S
It's a great community to be part of.
-David L
Great sites.
-John C
A great place to find and share not only information but to
meet people across the country and make lasting relationships.
-Uncle Craig
Great facility.
-Peter H
Its a great source of information!
-Michael W
Great improvements to the List...
-Edward A
Great service!!!
-Rich D
..great resource!
-William C
..excellent lists!
-Michael S
Couldn't have built my RV4 without the list.
-Warren M
..a great service...
-James N
I would not have missed [the list] for anything during the
building of my Europa.
-Svein J
..another great year.
-Robert D
..this [is an] essential builder's resource.
-David A
..excellent service.
-Gregory B
I've learned a huge amount of "stuff" over the past year
and look forward to it every day!
-Smith M
..a great communication tool...
-Jon M
Finished building 5 years ago, but still are lurking on
your great list!
-Lothar K
..a valuable service. At 11:00 pm Matronics is the goto
place for my RV questions.
-Mike D
================= What Listers Are Saying (WLAS) ================
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
Each year at the end of the List Fund Raiser, I post a message acknowledging everyone
that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its sort
of my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their
appreciation for the Lists.
Won't you take a moment and assure that your name is on that List of Contributors
(LOC)? As a number of members have pointed out over the years, the List seems
at least - if not a whole lot more - valuable as a
building/flying/recreating/entertainment tool as your typical magazine subscription!
Please take minute and assure that your name is on this year's LOC! Show others
that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is
fast and easy using your Credit card or Paypal on the Secure Web Site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or by popping a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
PO Box 347
Livermore CA 94551-0347
I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus
far in this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps
these Lists going and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment
about how the Lists have helped you!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
If you look forward to checking your List email everyday (and a lot of you have
written to say that you do!), then you're probably getting at least 0 or 0 worth
of Entertainment from the Lists each year. You'd pay twice that for a subscription
to some lame magazine or even a dinner out. Isn't the List worth at
least that much to you? Wouldn't it be great if you could pay that same amount
and get a well-managed media source free of advertising, SPAM, and viruses?
Come to think of it, you do...
Won't you please take a minute to make your Contribution today and support YOUR
Lists?
Contribution Page:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Again, I want to say THANK YOU to everyone that has made a Contribution thus far
during this year's List Fund Raiser!! These Lists are made possible exclusively
through YOUR generosity!!
Thank you for your support!
Matt Dralle
Email List Admin.
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Why? [Please Read] |
Dear Listers,
Each year I like to explain why I have a Fund Raiser and also take the opportunity
to express why I think the List Services here provide a superior experience
over the commercial equivalents.
I use the List Fund Raiser each year to offset the costs involved with running
a high performance email list site such as this one. With the annual support
from the List members through the PBS-like Fund Raiser, I have found I can run
the entire site without having to inflect any of the members with those annoying
banner ads flashing up all the time trying to sell little-blue-pills or other
garbage nobody wants or needs. From the comments I've received over the years
regarding the Lists, the great majority of the members really appreciate
the non-commercialism of my List systems and don't mind my 'go-team-go' banter
once a year during November to encourage members to support the Lists.
I believe that the Lists services that I provide here offer many benefits over
the commercial equivalents in a number of ways. The first feature I believe to
be significant is that you cannot receive a computer v*rus from any of these
Lists directly. Each incoming message is filtered and dangerous attachments
stripped off prior to posting. I also provide a Photo and File Share feature
that allows members to share files and bitmaps with other members and everyone
can be assured that these files will be prescanned for any sort of v*rus before
they are posted. Safe and simple.
Another very important feature of this system in my opinion is the extensive List
Archives that are available for download, browsing, and searching. The Archives
go all the way back to the very beginning of each List and with the very
fast Search Engine, the huge size of some of the Archives is a non-issue in quickly
finding the data you're looking for.
And added just this year is the new Email List Forum that allows members who prefer
the Web BBS-style of List interaction. The beauty of the new List Forums
is that they contain the exact same content that is distributed via email. Messages
posted via email are cross-posted to the respective Forum and vice versa.
The Forums also allow for another convenient method of sharing pictures and
other files. Additionally added this year is the new List Wiki that allows
members to build their own "Online List Encyclopedia" of sorts, documenting various
aspects of their project for all to share.
I've been running email Lists and services under the matronics.com domain since
about 1989 starting with RV-List and 30 guys I knew and who where also building
RVs. It has grown into nearly 70 different aviation-related Email Lists and
an associated web site that receives over 23,000,000 hits each year!! Additionally,
the List Email system forwarded well over 87,000 postings last year,
accounting for an unbelievable 39,000,000 (yes, that's 39 MILLION) email messages
delivered to Matronics List subscribers! I think there's a lot of value in
supporting a service that has gone the long haul and is still providing and
improving a high quality service all _without any advertising budget_!
I have to admit running these Lists is a labor of love and I hope it shows in the
quality of the experience that you receive when you get a List Email Message,
Search the Archives, use the List Browser, or surf the Forums and Wiki sites.
The Lists will be here for a long time to come. If you just want to lurk
a while for free, that's great and I encourage you to do so. If you use, appreciate,
and receive value from these Lists, then please support them during the
Annual List Fund Raiser!
List Contribution Web Site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Please Make a Contribution to Support Your Lists... |
Dear Listers,
Just a reminder that November is the Annual List Fund Raiser. Please make a Contribution
today to support the continued operation and upgrade of these great
List services!! Pick up a really nice free gift with your qualifying Contribution
too!
The Contribution Site is fast and easy:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | More Great List Comments - Please Make A Contribution! |
Dear Listers,
There's a little less than one week left for this year's List Fund Raiser. I thought
it would a great time to share a few more of the great comments I've been
receiving from Contributors regarding what the Lists mean to them. There are
some particularly poignant ones in this batch and I encourage you to have a
look at some of them.
Don't forget that once you make your Contribution, the Contribution Squelch kicks
in and you won't receive any future messages from me regarding the Fund Raiser
this year! This holds true for the Realtime and Digest distributions and
now also the HTML and TXT links included with the Digest! (Note that for technical
reasons, if someone replies to one of my contribution messages, the Squelch
will _not_ be activated, and you will still receive it. Contribution messages
will also still be found on the Forums site and the List Browse).
Please make your Contribution today to support these List services! Pick up a
great Gift too!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
============================= WLAS #2 ============================
Tackling my project without the List would be like
building on a deserted island. The List has made me
part of a learning (and laughing) community. -Larry W
Thank you for providing such a fantastic resource for us
Kolbers. I'm very happy to contribute towards keeping such a
wonderful resource available. -Geoff T
..you do a great service for the flying community by
providing this service. -John L
..solidly administered. -James C
A great source of information. -Ralph S
The Lists have likely saved a numbers of lives... -James F
..exceptional user service. -Larry W
Better than a magazine! -Aaron G
Thanks to your List I will be able to finish and fly
my project. Without the help of the great people on
your List I doubt it would have happened. -Ed G
I learn something on a too regular basis thanks to
these lists! -Ralph C
..valuable service. -John F
..a well administered service. -Stewart C
Great forum! -Ronald C
A great service! -Andy H
Been reading the lists since my first RV in 1999. Good
work and as necessary to me as a rivet. -Albert G
The lists are a great help. -Gary S
This resource has been critical to my building success
so far. -Timothy F
Great system and support! -Richard P
Very helpful in the building my CH 701. -Ralph S
Another year of entertainment and pleasure! -Larry B
A great resource for all of us. -Larry W
Another year of great service! Once again, the
information is worth more than I can ever contribute.
Thank you also for the "community" that the List fosters.
I cannot tell you the number of times that seeing an
friend's name come up has caused so many awesome memories
to come flooding back - along with the eager desire to
gather with these great guys again. I love hearing the
beginner's enthusiasm, the builder's progress, and the
flyer's success... -Robert B
Our list has great info and I love reading the
"Flame Posts! " -Stephen M
Great service! -James B
Excellent source of information. -David P
You provide a very valuable service to the aviation
community. -David H
The RV related lists have been a tremendous help in the
construction of my RV-7... -Norman R
Awesome list!! -John E
Great bunch of guys and very knowledgeable! -Herbert G
Thank you for making it so easy to stay in touch
with my fellow RV-10 builders. -David J
I love the list and have been a reader for a long
time. -James V
Continues to be a great service! -George A
Awesome List server. -Deke M
Many of us would never finish our airplanes without
[the List]. With it, I'm getting close! -Ronald C
An excellent source of both information and
inspiration! -William R
Forums and format are easy to use. -Jack B
Great help with my kit building. -Ralph H
Super service. -Richard N
Still loving it. -Jared S
You have a fantastic web! -Harvey R
..a great service. -James M
Glad you are there... -David A
I get some great information on your list. -John P
Fantastic service. Couldn't have made it as far
as I have without it. -Stephen T
A great learning experience with my RV-6A. -Ron B
Great resources! -Jason H
Well done. Very valuable. -Jeffrey D
Great resource for the experimental aircraft
community. -Chris H
This List has been one of the most helpful tools in
building my RV-10, since I build alone, and do not
have any help readily available. Without the List,
I could not have embarked on building my RV-10. -Jim H
You run a great list there. -James H
Really like the Kolb List. -Don W
============================= WLAS #2 ============================
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | List of Contributors Coming Soon - Make Sure You're Listed! |
Dear Listers,
The List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner! On December 1st I post
a list of everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists.
Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their
appreciation for the Lists.
As a number of people have pointed out in their Contribution comments, the List
seems at least as valuable of a building/flying/recreating tool as a typical
your magazine subscription! And how interactive is a magazine, after all? :-)
Won't you take minute and assure that your name is on the upcoming LOC? Tell others
that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists
is fast and easy using your Visa, MasterCard, or Paypal account:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, by droping a personal check in the mail to:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
PO Box 347
Livermore CA 94551-0347
USA
(Please include your email address on the check!)
I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus
far during this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that
keeps these Lists running and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment
about how the Lists have helped you!
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Who is "Matt Dralle" & What Are "The Lists"? [Please Read] |
Dear Listers,
Who is Matt Dralle and what exactly are these Lists? Well, I've been working in
the information technology industry for over 20 years primarily in computer
networking design and implementation. I have also done extensive work in web
development and CGI design during this period.
I started the Matronics Email Lists back in 1990 with about 30 fellow RV builders
from around the world. Since that time, I have added 63 other kinds of aircraft
related Lists to the line up and numerous other List related services such
as the Forums, Wiki, Archives and Search Engine just to name a few.
For flexibility and reliability, I have chosen to run all of my own servers here
locally. Other List-related systems include a 1 Gigabit, fully switched network
infrastructure, a commercial-grade Netscreen firewall, a Barracuda spam filter,
a local T1 Internet router, and a commercial-grade business T1 Internet
connection with full static addressing.
The computer servers found here include a brand new, quad-processor Xeon Linux
server for List web services, a dual-processor Xeon Linux system dedicated to
the email processing List functions, and another P4 Linux system serving as a
remote storage disk farm for the archives, databases, and for an on-line hard
drive-based backup system with 3.2 Terra Bytes of storage, soon to be upgraded
to over 6 Terra Bytes! This entire system is protected by three large, commercial-grade
uninterrupted power supply (UPS) systems that assure the Lists are
available even during a local power outage! Speaking of power, imagine how much
electricity it takes to run all of these systems. One month this Summer,
I had a staggering $1368 bill for electricity alone!
I recently upgraded all of the computer racking infrastructure including new power
feeds and dedicated air conditioning for the room that serves as the Computer
Center for the Matronics Email Lists. This year I added another rack to house
the new MONSTER quad-processor web system that didn't quite fit into the
first rack! Here's a composite photo of the List Computer Center before the addition
of the second rack:
http://www.matronics.com/MattDralle-ListComputerCenter.jpg
As you can see, I take running these Lists very seriously and I am dedicated to
providing an always-on, 24x7x365 experience for each and every Lister.
But building and running this system isn't cheap. As I've stated before, I don't
support any of these systems with commercial advertising on the Lists. It
is supported 100% through List member Contributions! That means you... and you...
and YOU!
To that end, I hold a List Fund Raiser each November and ask that members make
a small Contribution to support the continued operation and upgrade of this ever-expanding
system. Its solely YOUR Contributions that keeps it running!
Please make a Contribution today to support these Lists!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
PO Box 347
Livermore CA 94551-0347
USA
(Please include your email address on the check!)
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Last "Official" Day Of The List Fund Raiser! |
Dear Listers,
Well, its November 30th and that means three things...
1) Today I am now officially 43 years old... (arg...)
2) It marks that last "official" day of the List Fund Raiser!
3) Its the last day I will be bugging everyone for a whole year! :-)
If you use the Lists and enjoy the content and the no-advertising, no-spam, and
no-censorship way in which they're run, please make a Contribution today to support
their continued operation and upkeep. Your $20 or $30 goes a long way
to further the List operation and keep the bills paid.
I will be posting the List of Contributors next week, so make sure your name is
on it! :-)
Thank you to everyone that has made a Contribution so far this year! It is greatly
appreciated.
List Contributions: http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Matronics Fund Raiser - 2006 List of Contributors |
Dear Listers,
I would like to thank everyone that made a Contribution in support of the Lists
this year! It was really nice to hear all great comments people had regarding
the Lists! As I have said many times before, running these Lists is a labor
of love. Your generosity during the List Fund Raiser only underscores the great
sentiments people have made regarding the Lists.
If you haven't yet made a Contribution in support of this year's Fund Raiser please
feel free to do so. The nice List gifts will be available on the site for
just a little while longer, so hurry and make your Contribution and get your
great gift. Once again, the URL for the Contribution web site is:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
I would like to thank Andy Gold of the Builder's Bookstore ( http://www.buildersbooks.com ), Paul Besing of Aeroware Enterprises ( http://www.kitlog.com ), Jon Croke of Homebuilt HELP ( http://www.homebuilthelp.com ) and Bob Nuckolls of AeroElectric ( http://www.aeroelectric.com ) for their extremely generous support during this year's Fund Raiser through the contribution of merchandise. These are great guys that support the aviation industry and I encourage each and every Lister to have a look at their products. Thank you Andy, Paul, Jon and Bob!! Your support is very much appreciated!
And finally, below you will find a web link to the 2006 List of Contributors current
as of 12/7/06! Have a look at this list of names as these are the people
that make all of these List services possible! I can't thank each of you enough
for your support and great feedback during this year's Fund Raiser!
THANK YOU!
http://www.matronics.com/loc/2006.html
I will be shipping out all of the gifts in the next few weeks and hope to have
everything out by the end of the month. In most cases, gifts will be shipped
via US Postal Service. Kitlog Pro serial numbers should go out via email this
weekend.
Once again, thank you for making this year's List Fund Raiser successful!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=125211#125211
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | New Realtime Spell Checker Added To Matronics Forums! |
Dear Listers,
Today 9/8/2007 I have added a new real-time spell checker function to all of the
BBS Forums at Matronics. When you reply or create a new message on the Forums,
you will notice that misspelled words will be high-lighted in yellow. If
you left-click on the word, you will be prompted with a drop-down list of suggested
spellings.
http://forums.matronics.com
Enjoy!
Matt Dralle
Matornics Email List and Forum Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | November is Matronics Email List Fund Raiser Month! |
Dear Listers,
You've probably noticed that there are no banner ads or pop-up windows or spam
from any of the List and Forum services at Matronics. These include, for example:
The Email List Postings - http://www.matronics.com/listbrowse
The Email List Forum Site - http://forums.matronics.com
The List Wiki - http://wiki.matronics.com
The List Search Engine - http://www.matronics.com/search
This is because I have always enjoyed a List experience that was completely about
the sport we enjoy - airplanes - and not about advertising!
But running a high performance, highly available service like this isn't free and
a fair amount of money in terms of computer upgrades, business-class Internet
connectivity, and electricity. Consequently, many similar sites turn to advertising
to support these costs. Advertising that you have to look at each and
every time you read an email message or browse the their web site.
Rather than subject my List community to another constant commercial bombardment,
I have chosen to hold a PBS-like fund raiser each year in November to support
the continued operation and upgrade of the List services. It's solely through
the Contributions of List members that the Lists and Forums continue to be
possible!
During the month, I will be sending out a Fund Raiser reminder message every few
days and I ask for your patience and understanding during the month throughout
these regular messages. Think of them as PBS' Pledge Breaks... :-)
To minimize the impact of the Fund Raiser on the List community, I implemented
a new feature late last year specifically related to making Contributions. If
you are an Email List subscriber, once you make a Contribution using the online
web site, you will no longer receive the email from me regarding the Fund Raiser!
There are a couple of exceptions to this, however. If someone replies
to a Contribution message I've sent, you might receive that. Additionally, the
messages will always be posted to the Forums site. To a first order, however,
once you make a Contribution, you won't get my email messages about the Fund
Raiser for the rest of the month. For Contributions by check, the squelch
will take effect once the check is received.
There is a whole new line up of really great Contribution gifts this year! When
you make a qualifying Contribution, you can select one of the many free gifts
that are available during the Fund Raiser. These gifts are provided through
the generous support of a number of our industry's leading supporters including:
Bob Nuckolls - AeroElectric - http://www.aeroelectric.com
Andy Gold - Builder's Bookstore - http://www.buildersbooks.com
Jon Croke - HomebuiltHELP - http://www.homebuilthelp.com
Please visit these guy's respective sites, as they have some great products to
offer and are generously supporting the Matronics List Fund Raiser.
You can make your List Contribution using any one of three secure methods this
year including using a credit card, PayPal, or by personal check. From the Contribution
site, you can select any one of this year's free gifts with a qualifying
Contribution amount. The Contribution page is pretty loooonnnnng this year
in order to list great selection of great gifts available so be sure to scroll
all the way to the bottom of the web page to see everything that's available!
Please make a List Support Contribution:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
I would like to thank everyone in advance for their generous support! Your Contributions
truely keep this operation afloat!
Thank you,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Forum Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | List Fund Raiser |
Dear Listers,
Just a reminder that November is the Matronics Email List Fund Raiser month. I've
got a bunch of really nice incentive gifts this year. There's really something
for everyone!
Please make a Contribution today:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | What Listers Are Saying... |
November is Matronics List Fund Raiser month and a number people been sending some
really nice comments regarding the Lists. I thought I'd share a few below.
The Lists are completely supported by your Contributions. All of the bills for
new hardware, connectivity, and electricity are paid by the generous support
of the List members.
Please make your Contribution today to support the continued operation of the List
and Forums:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
================= What Listers Are Saying ================
Flying and building is much safer with this List!!
Robert D.
Thanks for having and maintaining such a great resource to
all of us builders and flyers.
Wayne E.
Love the fact that you haven't caved to advertising!
Peter J.
..a great resource!!
Robert C.
Not building at the moment, but the Lists keeps me right
up to date with what's going on.
Chris D.
The web forum has been running great.
James O.
I enjoy this [List] site very much...
Paul C.
This is a great list!
Albert G.
..a valuable resource!
Roger C.
I am deployed to Pakistan right now, and being able
to go on-line and keep up with the aircraft discussions
helps keep the aircraft building dream alive in my mind!
Gregory C.
..fantastic service!
Roger M.
..clearly a work of passion!
Mike C.
It is a great service to us!
Kevin C.
The list is a wonderful resource...
Ralph O.
[The Lists] have been the single greatest resource in
building my RV-9A and now my RV-10.
Albert G.
..a valuable and always improving service.
Dick S.
STILL THE BEST BARGAIN AROUND!!
Owen B.
..such a valuable tool.
Jon M.
[The Lists] have been an invaluable resource for me
as a Zenith homebuilder.
David G.
The opportunity to meet (on line at least) many other
interesting builders and to make some new friends is
truly appreciated.
Albert G.
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | If You Got This Email, You Haven't Made A Contribution Yet! |
:-)
Dear Listers,
If you received this particular Matronics List Email message, its because you haven't
yet made a Contribution to support your Lists! Implemented for the first
time last year, the Matronics system selectively sends out the Contribution
messages to those that forgot to whip out the 'ol credit card this year to support
the continued operation and upgrade of the Matronics Email Lists! Don't
you wish PBS worked that way? :-)
You heard that right. Once you make your Contribution, these support requests
messages during November will suddenly stop coming to your personal email inbox!
I wanted to implement something like this for a number of years, but it was
always such a daunting task to modify the back-end List processing code, that
I just kept putting it off. Finally last year, I just decided to bite the bullet
and put the code-pounding time it to make it work. A few days later, bam!
A working system!
I really do appreciate each and every one of your individual Contributions to support
the Lists. It is your support that enables me to upgrade the hardware
and software that are required to run a List Site like this. It also goes to
pay for the commercial-grade Internet connection and to pay the rather huge electric
bill to keep the computer gear running and the air conditioner powered
up. I run ALL of the Matronics Email List and Forums sites here locally which
allows me to control and monitor every aspect of the system for the utmost in
reliably and performance.
Your personal Contribution matters because when combined with other Listers such
as yourself, it pays the bills to keep this site up and running. I accept exactly
ZERO advertising dollars for the Matronics Lists sites. I can't stand
the pop-up ads and all other commercialism that is so prevalent on the Internet
these days and I particularly don't want to have it on my Email List site.
If you appreciate the ad-free, grass-roots, down-home feel of the Matronics Email
Lists, please make a Contribution to keep it that way!!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
[Please note the following regarding the selective posting system. There are certain
circumstances where you might still see a Contribution related message.
These situations include if someone replies to one of the messages, or when
using the List Browse feature, or when accessing List message via the Forum.
Since most of these are anonymous public access methods, there is no simple way
to filter them.]
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Post Mortem - Matronics List Pummeled By Spam... |
Dear Listers,
Over a 3-day period, Thursday 11/8 though Saturday 11/10, the Matronics Lists were
pummeled with over 450,000 spam emails causing posting delays and a few duplicate
messages. Yeah, I really said nearly half a million spams! The good
news is that I don't believe a single one of them actually made it to the Lists
thanks to the aggressive List filtering code and the Barracuda spam filter.
The bad news was that it caused quite a back log of email messages starting Friday
and continuing until late Saturday when I noticed that delivery seemed a bit
sluggish. By about 11pm on Saturday night, I had managed to get the backlog
cleared out of the spam filter by temporarily adjusting some of the filtering.
A check of the queues this morning, and everything looks like its working great
and there are no incoming filtering delays and spam levels appear to be back
to "normal".
There were a number of people asking what was going on, so I thought that I'd send
out a follow up post mortem on the event...
November is the annual List Fund Raiser. Your contribution directly enables me
to buy systems like the Barracuda spam filter that keep the List free of that
garbage. Please make a contribution to support your Lists!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | List of Contributors |
Each year at the end of the List Fund Raiser, I post a message acknowledging everyone
that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its sort of
my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation
for the Lists.
Won't you take a moment and assure that your name is on that List of Contributors
(LOC)? As a number of members have pointed out over the years, the List seems
at least - if not a whole lot more - valuable as a building/flying/recreating/entertainment
tool as your typical magazine subscription!
Please take minute and assure that your name is on this year's LOC! Show others
that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is
fast and easy using your Credit card or Paypal on the Secure Web Site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or by popping a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
PO Box 347
Livermore CA 94551-0347
I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus
far in this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps
these Lists going and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about
how the Lists have helped you!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Value of the List... |
If you look forward to checking your List email everyday (and a lot of you have
written to say that you do!), then you're probably getting at least 0 or 0 worth
of Entertainment from the Lists each year. You'd pay twice that for a subscription
to some lame magazine or even a dinner out. Isn't the List worth at least
that much to you? Wouldn't it be great if you could pay that amount and get
a well-managed media source free of advertising, SPAM, and viruses? Come to
think of it, you do... :-)
Won't you please take a minute to make your Contribution today and support the
Lists?
Contribution Page:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Again, I want to say THANK YOU to everyone that has made a Contribution thus far
during this year's List Fund Raiser!! These Lists are made possible exclusively
through YOUR generosity!!
Thank you for your support!
Matt Dralle
Email List Admin.
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Please Make a Contribution to Support Your Lists... |
Just a reminder that November is the Annual List Fund Raiser. Please make a Contribution
today to support the continued operation and upgrade of these great
List services!! And pick up a really nice free gift with your qualifying Contribution
too!
The Contribution Site is fast and easy:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | [Please Read] Why I Have A Fund Raiser... |
Dear Listers,
Each year I like to explain why I have a Fund Raiser and also take the opportunity
to express why I think the List Services here provide a superior experience
over the commercial equivalents.
I use the List Fund Raiser each year to offset the costs involved with running
a high performance email list site such as this one. With the annual support from
the List members through the PBS-like Fund Raiser, I have found I can run
the entire site without having to inflect any of the members with those annoying
banner ads flashing up all the time trying to sell little-blue-pills or other
garbage nobody wants or needs. From the comments I've received over the years
regarding the Lists, the great majority of the members really appreciate the
non-commercialism of my List systems and don't mind my 'go-team-go' banter once
a year during November to encourage members to support the Lists.
I believe that the Lists services that I provide here offer many benefits over
the commercial equivalents in a number of ways. The first feature I believe to
be significant is that you cannot receive a computer v*rus from any of these
Lists directly. Each incoming message is filtered and dangerous attachments stripped
off prior to posting. I also provide a Photo and File Share feature that
allows members to share files and bitmaps with other members and everyone can
be assured that these files will be prescanned for any sort of v*rus before
they are posted. More recently, I have enabled limited posting of a number of
file formats including pictures and PDFs.
Another very important feature of this system in my opinion is the extensive List
Archives that are available for download, browsing, and searching. The Archives
go all the way back to the very beginning of each List and with the very
fast Search Engine, the huge size of some of the Archives is a non-issue in quickly
finding the data you're looking for.
And added just a couple of years ago is the new Email List Forum that allows members who prefer the Web BBS-style of List interaction. The beauty of the new List Forums is that they contain the exact same content that is distributed via email. Messages posted via email are cross-posted to the respective Forum and vice versa. The Forums also allow for another convenient method of sharing pictures and other files (http://forums.matronics.com ). Additionally, added recently is the List Wiki that allows members to build their own "Online List Encyclopedia" of sorts, documenting various aspects of their project for all to share ( http://wiki.matronics.com ).
I've been running email Lists and services under the matronics.com domain since
about 1989 starting with RV-List and 30 guys I knew and who where also building
RVs. It has grown into nearly 70 different aviation-related Email Lists and
an associated web site that receives over 34,000,000 hits each year!! Additionally,
the List Email system forwarded well over 77,000 postings last year, accounting
for an unbelievable 33,000,000 (yes, that's 33 MILLION) email messages
delivered to Matronics List subscribers! I think there's a lot of value in supporting
a service that has gone the long haul and is still providing and improving
a high quality service all _without any advertising budget_!
I have to admit running these Lists is a labor of love and I hope it shows in the
quality of the experience that you receive when you get a List Email Message,
Search the Archives, use the List Browser, or surf the Forums and Wiki sites.
The Lists will be here for a long time to come. If you just want to lurk a
while for free, that's great and I encourage you to do so. If you use, appreciate,
and receive value from these Lists, then please support them during the Annual
List Fund Raiser!
List Contribution Web Site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | What Are You Thankful For...? |
Dear Listers,
Here in the United States, Thursday is our National day of Thanksgiving. Many
of us will be traveling to be with our families and friends to share in generous
feasts of plenty and giving thanks for many blessings that have been bestowed
upon us.
Many Listers have expressed over the last couple of weeks how thankful they are
for the Email Lists and Forums here on the Matronics servers and for all of the
assistance and comradery they have experienced being a part of the Lists.
One of my favorite kind of comments is when write to me and says something like,
"Its the first thing I do in the morning while I'm having my morning coffee!".
That's a wonderful tribute to the purpose and function of these Lists. Its
always great to hear I'm not the only one that jumps out of bed each morning
to check my List email!!
Won't you take a minute today and show your appreciation for these Lists and for
their continued operation and upgrade?
The List Contribution Site is:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you in advance for your kind consideration,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
Dear Listers,
Below are a few more of the nice comments Listers have been making along with their
Contributions in support of the Lists this year. Please make your Contribution
today to support the continued operation and upgrade of these services.
Remember, there is _no advertising budget_ to keep these Lists funded. It is
solely through your generosity that they continue.
Please make a Contribution:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator
------------------------------What Listers Are Saying------------------------------
The list has been invaluable in the building of my Zenith CH701.
George R
Thanks for keeping the lists a non-commercial venue for us
to gather and share knowledge.
Neal G
What a fantastic resource!
Ralph C
It's a pretty cheep troubleshooting tool with and unlimited
resource of personal knowledge.
Bruce G
A full house of Info & Ideas...
Ellery B
I really enjoy the Piet list.
Steven D
The Lists are an indispensable resource for those of us
building OBAM aircraft.
Bret S
..a great service.
Frank D
..all in all it is a great resource if you ask specific
questions.
Richard S
Your list has really helped me in my first build.
Michael W
Always a pleasure to support this great resource...
Richard W
I enjoy the lists very much, they are very beneficial.
Bob L
Great place to chat with other builders and Flyers.
Ellery B
Your lists are a great service to builders and owners!
Richard D
A real good place for someone that is starting to get
interested into flying without investing any money at
first.
Ellery B
The list has been an great help to my building process.
David B
I'm close to finishing my Zenith 601 thanks to you and
the Zenith List.
Jeff D
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Make Sure You're Listed! List of Contributors Published Dec |
1!
Dear Listers,
The List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner! On December 1st I post
a list of everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists.
Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their
appreciation for the Lists.
As a number of people have pointed out in their Contribution comments, these Lists
seems at least as valuable of a building/flying/recreating tool as a typical
your magazine subscription! And how interactive is a magazine, after all?
Won't you take minute and assure that your name is on the upcoming LOC? Tell others
that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists
is fast and easy using your Visa, MasterCard, or Paypal account:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
PO Box 347
Livermore CA 94551-0347
USA
(Please include your email address on the check!)
I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus
far during this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps
these Lists running and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment
about how the Lists have helped you!
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | [Please Read] What are "The Lists" and Who's This Matt Dralle? |
Dear Listers,
Who is Matt Dralle and what exactly are these Lists? Well, I've been working in
the information technology industry for nearly 25 years primarily in computer
networking design and implementation. I have also done extensive work in web
development and CGI design during that time, along with some embedded system
development as well.
I started the Matronics Email Lists back in 1990 with about 30 fellow RV builders
from around the world. Since that time, I have added 63 other kinds of aircraft
related Lists to the line up and numerous other List related services such
as the Forums, Wiki, Archives and Search Engine just to name a few.
For flexibility and reliability, I have chosen to run all of my own servers here
locally. Other List-related systems include a 1 Gigabit, fully switched network
infrastructure, a commercial-grade Netscreen firewall, a Barracuda spam filter,
a local T1 Internet router, and a commercial-grade business T1 Internet
connection with full static addressing.
The computer servers found here include a quad-processor Xeon Linux server for
List web services, a dual-processor Xeon Linux system dedicated to the email processing
List functions, and another P4 Linux system serving as a remote storage
disk farm for the archives, databases, and for an on-line hard drive-based
backup system with 3.2 Terra Bytes of storage! This entire system is protected
by three large, commercial-grade uninterrupted power supply (UPS) systems that
assure the Lists are available even during a local power outage! Speaking
of power, imagine how much electricity it takes to run all of these systems. One
month last Summer, I had a staggering $1368 bill for electricity alone!
I recently upgraded all of the computer racking infrastructure including new power
feeds and dedicated air conditioning for the room that serves as the Computer
Center for the Matronics Email Lists. Last year I added another rack to
house the MONSTER quad-processor web system that didn't quite fit into the first
rack! Here's a composite photo of the List Computer Center before the addition
of the second rack:
http://www.matronics.com/MattDralle-ListComputerCenter.jpg
As you can see, I take running these Lists very seriously and I am dedicated to
providing an always-on, 24x7x365 experience for each and every Lister.
But building and running this system isn't cheap. As I've stated before, I don't
support any of these systems with commercial advertising on the Lists. It is
supported 100% through List member Contributions! That means you... and you...
and YOU!
To that end, I hold a List Fund Raiser each November and ask that members make
a small Contribution to support the continued operation and upgrade of this ever-expanding
system. Its solely YOUR Contributions that keeps it running!
Won't you please take a moment to make a Contribution to support these Lists!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
PO Box 347
Livermore CA 94551-0347
USA
(Please include your email address on the check!)
There are some great gifts available with qualifying Contribution levels too!
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Wow! A Ton of Comments! |
Dear Listers,
I've been getting a ton of great comments from Listers along with their List Support
Contributions lately! I've shared a bunch more below. Please read over
some of them and see what your fellow Listers think of the Lists and Forums.
There are just a couple more days left before the official end of this year's Fund
Raiser. Please make a Contribution today to support the continued upgrade
and operation of these services.
There are still lots of awesome gifts available, so browse the extensive selection
and pickup a nice item along with your qualifying Contribution.
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you in advance for your generous support! It is very much appreciated!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
----------- What Listers Are Saying About The Lists -----------
In the big picture, you are most certainly saving lives.
The fact that you do it at a very good level of service,
quality, and simplicity is just icing on the cake. We
all owe you a debt of gratitude.
Bruce M
Can't go a single day without reading my lists. Even
when I am overseas.
Terry W
Best list ever. No comparison.
Johann J
I get the digest for the two lists I subscribe to each
morning -- they go great with my coffee! I can't tell
you how much I've learned from this great service...
Mark S
..great lists, best on the Net!
Robert S
It is very nice to enjoy a SPAM free list.
Ken L
You run a great list. Makes a builder feel like there's
lots of help out there for the asking, and it's
appreciated.
Steve T
The list is a very valuable resource.
Thomas S
You run a good list.
James G
Thanks for a great forum.
Jimmy Y
Thanks for a well-maintained list(s).
Michael M
Great job! Worth every penny!
Stephen T
Helps me learn and think about issues I didn't know I
didn't know.
Martin H
I find the list very useful...
Robert F
What you do provides me with daily contact with a passion
of my life, aviation.
Wendell M
..the list it is very valuable information.
Dwayne H
..a great service to homebuilders.
Andrew H
I have learned quite a lot from reading the Forums. I
have been reading at the forum pages and I like the way
it works.
Ron L
[The List] makes a builder feel like there's lots of
help out there for the asking, and it's appreciated.
Steve T
The list service many purposes, not the least of which is
motivation to join my fellow RVer in completing my project
and getting in the air.
John S
Thanks for running a great site. Its simplicity is its
greatness. Don't know how I would have been successful
without it.
Timothy F
..terrific service to experimental and general aviation.
James F
You have a well run operation. I am happy to support what
you do.
Mark S
A wonderful service to the GA community.
David M
Great list - let's keep it ad-free!
Ben C
They have been of great help, learning and friendship
for all the members Worldwide. Great job of yours, a
little idea that grew really big and wonderful.
Gary G
..a thoroughly enjoyable and informative List.
John W
A GREAT LEARNING TOOL!!
Dwayne Y
This is a very well-run list and it is a valuable resource
for the Pietenpol enthusiast.
Graham H
Thanks for running this great site - helps those of
us on the east of the pond keep in touch.
Malcolm H
Thanks for the major contribution to my continuing
education program.
Oldbob S
I'm just getting started in the building process & find
Matronics to be the most valuable site.
Scott D
Without the information and encouragement from the listers
my project would have been sitting in the corner of my shop
collecting dust long ago. Now it's almost ready for final
assemble and covering.
Edward G
Great List. No Ads, just RV-10 builders. Keep it
going.
Rick E
Wonderful source of info for building & flying...
Graham H
The Yak-list is a superb single source to get answers to
questions on the operation of these aircraft.
Craig W
This list is valuable to everyone and your hard work is
very much appreciated.
Jim S
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Just Two Days Left... |
Dear Listers,
There are just a couple days left for this year's List Fund Raiser. Over all,
participation has been good, but things have been pretty slow this week for some
reason. If you've been putting off making your Contribution until the last
minute, this is it! The last minute, that is... :-)
Please remember that there isn't any sort of commercial advertising on the Lists
and the *only* means of keeping these Lists running is through your Contributions
during this Fund Raiser.
Please make a Contribution today!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | [Please Read] - Last Official Day of List Fund Raiser! |
Dear Listers,
Its November 30th and that means a couple of things. Its my 44th birthday for
one, but I'm trying to forget about that... But, it also means that its that
last official day of the Matronics Email List Fund Raiser!
If you been drooling over one of the really sweet free gifts that are available
this year with a qualifying Contribution, then now is the time to jump on one!!
If you've been meaning to make a Contribution, but just keep putting it off, then
now is the time!
I will be posting the List of Contributors in a few days, so you'll probably want
to be known as a person that supported the Lists! Rather than the guy that,
er, ah, forgot (or whatever)... :-)
I want to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution so far this
year in support of our Lists. It is your generosity that keeps this operation
a float and I don't ever forget it. Hopefully everyone will feel the same.
The List Contribution page is fast and easy. Please support our habit by making
your Contribution right now:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you all in advance!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Matronics List Fund Raiser - 2007 List of Contributors |
Dear Listers,
I would like to thank everyone that made a Contribution in support of the Lists
this year! It was really nice to hear all great comments people had regarding
the Lists! As I have said many times before, running these Lists is a labor
of love. Your generosity during the List Fund Raiser underscores the great sentiments
people have made regarding the Lists.
If you haven't yet made a Contribution in support of this year's Fund Raiser please
feel free to do so. The great List Fund Raiser gifts will be available on
the Contribution site for just a little while longer, so hurry and make your
Contribution and get your great gift! Once again, the URL for the Contribution
web site is:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
I would like to thank Andy Gold of the Builder's Bookstore ( http://www.buildersbooks.com ), Jon Croke of Homebuilt HELP ( http://www.homebuilthelp.com ) and Bob Nuckolls of AeroElectric ( http://www.aeroelectric.com ) for their extremely generous support during this year's Fund Raiser through the contribution of discounted merchandise. These are great guys that support the aviation industry and I encourage each and every Lister to have a look at their products. Thank you Andy, Jon and Bob!! Your support is very much appreciated!
And finally, below you will find a web link to the 2007 List of Contributors current
as of 12/6/07! Have a look at this list of names as these are the people
that make all of these List services possible! I can't thank each of you enough
for your support and great feedback during this year's Fund Raiser!
THANK YOU!
http://www.matronics.com/loc/2007.html
I will be shipping out all of the gifts in the next few weeks and hope to have
everything out by the end of the month. In most cases, gifts will be shipped
via US Postal Service.
Once again, thank you for making this year's List Fund Raiser successful!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Two New Lists Added to the Matronics Lineup! |
Dear Listers,
I've added two new Email Lists to the Matronics List and Forum lineup today. These
include the Rans-List and RV12-List. Please surf over to the Matronics List
Subscription page and sign up for these new Lists if they are of interest
to you:
http://www.matronics.com/subscribe
Full support on the Forums, List Browse, Archives, etc. is available.
Rans-List:
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Rans-List
RV12-List
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?RV12-List
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| Subject: | CZAW is bankrupt |
| From: | "Bob_anderson" <bob_anderson2222(at)hotmail.com> |
Hi Jim,
I know that you like Chip Erwin, CZAW but people need to know the facts. You may
remember that Chip Erwin started a company in the Czech Republic years ago called
"Nextair". Chip got funding from banks, who lost everything as the company
went bankrupt. When Nextair did go bankrupt, he left the company and purchased
the assets at less than 10 cents on the dollar. It seems that now he is doing
it again. Slavia Capital is the main shareholder of CZAW.
But don't take it from me. Here is the contact info for Slavia Capital.
Frank Nosek
Investment Banking / Director
SLAVIA CAPITAL Praha
Rytirska 13
110 00 Praha 1
Tel.: +420 221 181 062
Fax: +420 221 181 068
Mob.: +420 605 228 570
fnosek(at)slaviacapital.com
www.slaviacapital.com
I think that CZAW customers that have put a deposit need to have the option of
getting it back.
Bob.
Hello.
Ive included below the full text of the release written today by Sport Aircraft
Works, regarding the March 27 (bankrupt) filing by part-owner Slavia Capital.
As is always the case, there is a story behind the story, and SAW is explaining
its view of the circumstances.
It is good for us to note that shipments have escalated and continue, setting records
for both February and March 2008, and that US deposits are held in the
US; customer exposure seems to be minimized by prudent work by CZAW and the US
Distributor, Sport Aircraft Works.
Danny Defelici (President, SAW) also assures me that he has made no changes in
his plans to attend Sun n Fun.
This kind of filing is never good news; but in this case it doesnt look too bad,
either. Do your homework (Czech laws differ from those of many other countries)
before putting forward some of the wilder comments theyve already heard.
This distribution has been delayed deliberately, to allow the company to make contact
with customers, first.
Tim Kern
Tim Kern INK / 121five.com
PO Box 30
Anderson, IN 46015-0030
USA
863-651-6095
Below is the verbatim press release.
We feel that its important for you to know the facts about the current situation
at Czech Aircraft Works.
Here is a brief history from our point of view.
IN 2006 CZECH AIRCRAFT WORKS (CZAW) TOOK ON AN INVESTMENT PARTNER FOR 49% OF THE
OUTSTANDING STOCK FOR THEIR PRODUCTION EXPANSION AND PURCHASE OF NEW FACILITY.
THIS INVESTMENT CAME FROM SLAVIA CAPITAL (SC), SLOVAKIA BASED INVESTMENT FIRM.
AFTER INITIAL HONEYMOON SC DECIDED THAT CHIP ERWINS (CZAW CEO) MANAGEMENT WAS
NOT TO THEIR LIKING AND THEY PROMPTLY TOOK OVER CONTROL OF THE FACTORY. THE PERSONNEL
THAT THEY PUT IN PLACE HAD NO AVIATION BACKGROUND AND BASICALLY STRIPPED
THE COMPANY OF VALUED WORKERS BY FIRING THE BEST ONES. (I believe that the
investors have a very different opinion on this)
NOW ITS CLEAR THAT DURING 2007 THE MANAGEMENT TOOK EVERY OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE THE
WRONG DECISIONS AND RUN THE COMPANY FINANCIALLY INTO THE GROUND. TOWARDS THE
END OF 2007 SC DECIDED THE COMPANY NEEDED ADDITIONAL FUNDS AND OFFERED GREATER
DILUTION AT UNFAVORABLE TERMS TO THE EXISTING SHAREHOLDERS. CHIP ERWIN (PARTIAL
OWNER) TOGETHER WITH THE REST OF THE SHAREHOLDERS REFUSED THIS OFFER AND
CHIP TOOK CONTROL OVER THE FACTORY AGAIN. (Hard to believe that an investor would
want to devalue his investment. I think that an investor would want to make
the company more valuable so that the value of the investment would go up).
Hard to believe that management would want to run the company into the ground
as that is not a good way to protect your job and investment).
AT THE SAME TIME SC STARTED A CAMPAIGN TO DISCOURAGE CZAW VENDORS FROM SELLING
EQUIPMENT TO THEM AND SPREADING RUMORS OF IMMINENT BANKRUPTCY. ALTHOUGH THIS
CAMPAIGN WAS DETRIMENTAL TO THE COMPANY, CHIP ERWIN WAS ABLE TO CONTINUE GROWING
THE COMPANY OUT OF THE MESS THAT WAS CREATED. (Again, hard to believe that
investors and management would want to hurt the company. Seems that Chip Erwin
did not get along with anyone).
IN THE BEGINNING OF 2008 FOR THE FIRST 3 MONTHS CHIP ERWIN PROVED THE COMPANY
WAS VIABLE BY RUNNING THE COMPANY ON CASH FLOW WHILE PAYING SUBSTANTIAL LIABILITIES
DOWN AT THE SAME TIME. THIS DEMONSTRATES THAT THE COMPANY IS VIABLE GOING
FORWARD AND IS NOT INSOLVENT OR NEEDS BANKRUPTCY PROTECTION. (Not paying debt
and vendor obligations is not a way to run a company. CZAW owes a lot of money
to vendors and investors. )
SC, THROUGH THEIR COLLABORATION WITH AN [AFFILIATED?] COLLECTION AGENCY, PETITIONED
THE CZECH COURTS FOR BANKRUPTCY AND/OR RESTRUCTURING ON MARCH 27, 2008.
IN OUR VIEW THIS WAS ANOTHER DIRTY TACTIC TO MAKE THE SHAREHOLDERS CAPITULATE
IN GIVING UP FULL CONTROL OF A VIABLE COMPANY TO MINORITY SHAREHOLDER (SC).
(Chip management style does not work well with others. I just does not make sense
for a major investor to want to bankrupt a company. SC. It is Chip that wants
to get rid of SC so that he can have it all to himself. He did this very well
with Nextair years ago. Chip is hoping to purchase the assets of CZAW for
almost nothing after it goes bankrupt. He will than have everything to himself
which will include the aircraft designs, inventory and factory. Not a bad deal!!)
How does this affect us?
ITS CHIPS UNDERSTANDING THAT IT TAKES 14 DAYS FOR THE BANK TO COMMENT ON THE RESTRUCTURING
PETITION, AT WHICH TIME THE COURTS WILL DECIDE WHICH WAY TO GO. ITS
PROVEN FROM OUR FIRST THREE MONTHS OF 2008 THAT WE ARE VIABLE AND WE WILL PETITION
THE COURT (IF IT GOES THIS FAR) TO CONTINUE OPERATING AS USUAL UNDER THE
COURTS PROTECTION. THIS ACTUALLY WOULD BE GOOD FOR CZAW AS IT PROTECTS THEM
FROM THEIR OWN INVESTMENT PARTNER. (I would say that Chip knows better than
anyone on how the bankrupt laws work in the Czech Rep.)
DELIVERIES SHOULD CONTINUE AS PLANNED. EVEN UNDER RESTRUCTURING THE COMPANY CONTINUES
TO RUN AND MANUFACTURE. WE HAVE HAD TWO STRONG MONTHS (FEBRUARY AND MARCH
08) OF AIRCRAFT DELIVERIES WITH A TOTAL OF 16 AIRPLANES DELIVERED (CZAW SHIPPED
20 TOTAL IN MARCH). (Hard to believe that 20 aircraft were shipped in March.
Total deliveries are 57 to date. See HTTP://WWW.SPORTAIRCRAFTWORKS.COM/PDF/LSA_MANUF_REPORTS/LSA_DATA_03012008.PDF
).
And just to reassure all our customers, we keep all of the deposits on this side
of Atlantic. (how do we know that this is true???
To sum this up Chip Erwin has been using all of his resources (what resources?
He has no money!) and energy to resolve the problems with Slavia Capital and continue
to deliver one of the best LSA aircraft on the market.
Thank you for your continuing support.
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| Subject: | CZAW Bankruptcy Petition |
| From: | "Kata" <kata.kavanova(at)centrum.cz> |
Regional Court in Brno Court: Regional Court in Brno
Husova 15 Arrived: 21.05.2008, 07:50
601 95 Brno Number of parties/attachments: 17/
File no.: KSBR 44 INS 1207/2008
Prague, 20.5.2008
Petitioner: COMINVEST ASSOCIATED LIMITED, with its registered office at Pasea Estate,
Road Town, Tortola, British Virgin Islands, company no. (registration no.):
626279
Debtor: CZECH AIRCRAFT WORKS spol. s r.o., with its registered office at Kunovice,
Na Zhonech 212, Post Code 686 04, company no. 251 10 969, entered in the
register maintained by the Regional Court in Brno, section C, file no. 33816
STATEMENT OF THE PLAINTIFF
I.
In the resolution of the Regional Court of 7.5.2008 the petitioner was called upon
to give a statement to the pripis dluznika/registration of the debtor of 25.4.2008
and 30.4.2008.
On the basis of this call of the bankruptcy court, the petitioner submits this
statement.
II.
Bankruptcy proceedings were launched against the debtors assets on 27.3.2008. As
at todays date the court has received notices or registrations of receivables
of approximately 20 creditors, who have outstanding claims against the debtor
with a total value of CZK 51,000,000 (DEPOSITS NOT INCLUDED) with appurtenances,
and it can be assumed that other creditors will register their claims from
this date onwards.
The debtor is currently unable to meet its legal obligations towards the District
Social Security Administration (see this creditors notice dated 2.5.2008).
A similar delay with the payment of outstanding obligations can also be expected
in the case of the relevant tax office or health insurance companies. The debtors
employees were not paid their salaries for April and May.
III.
In its submission of 25.4.2008, the debtor submitted to the court a list of its
employees and a list of its assets (which is comprised of a list of warehouse
inventories valued at CZK 20,390,329.61, a list of production in progress valued
at CZK 12,220,365.06, a list of production in progress valued at CZK 616,000
and a list of finished products valued at CZK 4,866,227.71). Despite the debtors
numerous declarations that these lists are complete and correct, the petitioner
is convinced of the fact that the lists submitted by the debtor do not
give a true reflection of the assets owned by the debtor, but rather than the
debtors assets are overvalued.
Nevertheless, despite the petitioners above-mentioned reservations to the lists
submitted, it must be stated that even from these records it is clear that the
debtor meets all the legal prerequisites for over-indebtedness, as this term
is defined in Section 3(3) of Act No. 182/2006 Coll., the Bankruptcy Act (hereinafter
referred to as BA), namely:
i) the debtor has more than one creditor, and
ii) the sum of its obligations exceeds the value of its assets.
The petitioner is of the opinion that the documents submitted hitherto to the bankruptcy
court by the individual creditors as well as by the debtor prove the
debtors bankruptcy, as the debtor
i) has more than one creditor,
ii) has monetary obligations that are more than 30 days overdue,
iii) is unable to make good on these obligations.
In accordance with Section 3(2)(a) and (b) of the BA, the debtors inability to
pay may be deduced from the fact that
i) the debtor stopped the payment of a significant part of its monetary obligations,
whilst at the same time
ii) the debtor is not paying a significant part of its monetary obligations for
more than three months after their due date.
At the same time, the petitioner states that, contrary to Section 128(3) and Section
104 of the BA, the debtor has yet to submit to the court the requested list
of all its obligations, in spite of the fact that this list should form a
mandatory part of the accounting records that the debtor is obliged to keep by
law. Thus, by failing to submit the requested lists, another prerequisite for
the debtors inability to pay pursuant to Section 3(2)(d) of the BA.
IV.
The debtors bad financial situation was also confirmed by the debtors executive
director himself (see, for example, the declaration of the debtors executive
director that the value of the obligations was lowered from an initial value of
CZK 35.3 million to CZK 28.8 million; the declaration on page 1, where it is
expressly stated that CZAW was already bankrupt back in 2007, etc.) in his statement
(which forms an appendix to the statement of the debtor to the bankruptcy
of 25.4.2008).
The petitioner would also like to take this opportunity to emphasise the fact that
the statement of the debtors executive director contains a number of errors
as far as the debtors obligations are concerned. As has already been stated
above, the debtors executive director states that the debtors obligations reach
CZK 28.8 million. However, the interim results of the bankruptcy proceedings
show that this value is at least twice this amount (as at todays date the bankruptcy
court has received notices from creditors who have outstanding claims
against the debtor in excess of CZK 51 million).
The debtors executive director further states that in the period from 31.12.2008
(clearly this should be the period from 31.12.2007), a loan from KB totalling
CZK 5 million was to be paid by the debtor. But from the communication of the
company FAME Jihlava, a.s., submitted to the above court on 12.5.2008 it ensues
that this obligation was not settled by the debtor, but that this obligation
continues in existence (albeit under the title of undue enrichment, on account
of the debtor refusing, contrary to the loan agreement, to sign an amendment
thereto). This obligation has not been settled by the debtor to this date,
despite the fact that the debtor was repeatedly called upon to make good on this
obligation.
V.
The petitioner is unable to give an opinion on the other claims made by the debtor
in the statement of the debtors executive director regarding the internal
structure and management of CZAW, as it is not and never was a member of the debtor.
Nevertheless, according to the debtors memorandum of association (filed
in the collection of documents kept by the Regional Court in Brno) it is clear
that the debtors general meeting only reached quorum if attended by members
having at least 94.60% of the votes, with the member AIRCRAFT ENTERPRISES LTD.
holding 4515 votes, the member SLAVIA CAPITAL AERO (SC AERO) LIMITED holding
4965 votes, and the member Trihold Limited holding 540 votes. For any resolution
to be adopted, a 67% majority of all the votes of all members was always required.
>From the above, it is clear that SLAVIA CAPITAL AERO (SC AERO) LIMITED did not
have the majority of votes required to adopt or push through any resolution,
and therefore was unable by itself (i.e. without the co-operation of another member,
AIRCRAFT ENTERPRISES LTD., whose majority shareholder as ensues from the
Confirmation on Shareholder Status, again filed in the collection of documents
kept by the Regional Court in Brno is the debtors executive director, i.e.
Mr Chip W. Erwin), to push through any decision, take any measure or to damage
the debtor in any other way (as the debtor infers in its statement).
Evidence: Shareholder Status as at 13.11.2007
VI.
In its petition, the debtor states that it feels it has suffered damage, as COMINVEST
ASSOCIATED LIMITED did not contact it and evidently took no steps aimed
at the payment of the alleged receivable.
Once again, the above claim made by the debtor is not founded on truth, as documented
by the facts presented by the petitioner below.
On 31.1.2008, the Bill of Exchange was presented to the domicilat/domicilatory
for payment. By so doing, the condition of the due presentation of the bill of
exchange was met. The debtor was subsequently called upon to pay the outstanding
obligation. However, from the confirmation issued by SOB, a.s. of 14.2.2008
it is clear that the debtor did not react in any way to this call and failed
to make any payment towards the outstanding obligation.
Evidence: collection order from the bill of exchange of 31.1.2008
confirmation issued by SOB, a.s. of 14.2.2008 (file no. KSBR 44 INS 1207/2008)
COMINVEST ASSOCIATED LIMITED
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| Subject: | CZAW Deposit Holders Warning |
| From: | "Kata" <kata.kavanova(at)centrum.cz> |
Regional Court in Brno
Husova 15
601 95 Brno
Czech Republic
23 May 2008
Dear Sir,
Re: CZAW in liquidation
CASE FILE No. KSBR 44 INS 1207/2008
My name is Leonardo da Costa Sayago and I am the Managing Director and owner of
Aeromarine Lda.
Mr. Erwin offered to sell me 9% of CZAW for the sum of $800,000, but my financial
advisers told me not to invest.
A little later in the middle of 2006 I was given exclusive distribution rights
to all products of CZAW for Portugal and Spain (Atlantic to a meridian passing
through the centre of Madrid).
For these rights Mr. Erwin convinced me to send CZAW the sum of $300,100, as a
prepayment of 5 Sportcruisers and deposits on 5 Sportcruisers and 1 Mermaid. This
order was increased to 15 Sportcruisers and another $50,000 was sent. Deliveries
were promised at a rate of 2 per month starting March 2007.
In about May 2007 I visited the factory to see my planes and in the presence of
Mr. John Mohr Mr Erwin told me Why should I supply you the planes that you have
already paid for, just send another $300,000 .
He proceeded to steal my order OC 3984 and sold it to a client of mine. I said
you have from Aeromarine nearly $50,000 on this plane and now you are going to
receive $75,000 from my client. Do you want to be paid twice for the same plane?
He replied, What a good idea for my cash flow . My $15,000 commission was
never paid and he refused to even discuss it.
He also sold another plane to one of my clients, Mr. Pereira, and contrary to our
written agreement he refused to pay my company around $25 000 due on the transaction.
Mr Erwin holds $70,000 in deposits, approximately $40,000 in unpaid commissions,
$2,000 in warranty work on faulty planes which we did not claim as we knew
that he had been insolvent for some time.
After many false promises of delivery, he signed new contracts, now for 7 planes
in lieu of 8 outstanding (the stolen OC3984 he does not want to honour). Deliveries
were to start in Feb 2008.But as usual absolutely no deliveries were made.
Recently he promised to refund my deposits. I asked that he build me one
plane. He wrote a document in front of Mr. Robert Miller, Managing Director, Aeromarine
UK Ltd confirming the transfer of my deposits as payment in full for
a plane OC3988 which was to be delivered at the end of April. This plane has
been in the assembly line for 3 months but remains in the same state as the day
the document was signed.
Mr Erwins response when asked why it had not progressed was why should I deliver
it when it has already been paid in full.
I am a 64 year old Naval Architect. I have been in business since 1967. I have
dealt with many businesses from all over the World and I have NEVER come across
anybody capable of so much prevarication, fraud, lies, deception. I know this
gentleman has been involved with other companies that have gone bankrupt and
by all accounts he has been able to buy them back and continue to rob clients
of their hard earned cash. I hope this will not happen on this occasion. I am
$112,000 short and he plainly refuses to deliver my goods.
Having sold me the rights to sell in Portugal and Spain he has taken a considerable
amount of my money and failed to supply the goods. I understand he has now
given those rights to another company. I consider this as the worst type of
immoral behaviour.
Yours Faithfully
Leonardo da Sayago
C.Eng. FRINA
Managing Director
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| Subject: | CZAW Bankruptcy Petition II. |
| From: | "Kata" <kata.kavanova(at)centrum.cz> |
Regional Court in Brno
Husova 15
601 95 Brno
File no. KSBR 44 INS 1207/2008
In Prague on 26 May 2008
Petitioner: COMINVEST ASSOCIATED LIMITED, registered office Pasea Estate, Road
Town, Tortola, British Virgin Islands, reg. no.: 626279
Debtor: CZECH AIRCRAFT WORKS spol. s r.o., registered office Kunovice, Na Zhonech
212, Postal Code: 686 04, Identification No.: 251 10 969, registered in the
Commercial Register administered by the Regional Court in Brno, Section C, Insert
33816
PETITIONER'S RESPONSE TO THE DEBTOR'S NOTICE OF 22 MAY 2008
MOTION TO APPOINT A PRELIMINARY TRUSTE
I.
On 22 May 2008, the Regional court in Brno published in the insolvency register
the Debtor's notice of 21 May 2008, whereby the Debtor presented to the court:
(i) a list of work in progress on the Mermaid products;
(ii) a list of inventory in stock;
(iii) a list of finished products;
(iv) a list of work in progress;
(v) a list of payables to the state and employees;
(vi) a list of loans and borrowings;
(vii) a list of accounts receivable;
(viii) a list of received advances;
(ix) a list of accounts payable;
(x) a list of advances paid to suppliers;
(xi) the income statement and the balance sheet as of 31 December 2007 and also
the income statement and the balance sheet as of 30 April 2005, to which the
Debtor fully refers.
The Petitioner hereby presents to the insolvency court this response to the Debtor's
submission dated 21 May 2008 and states the following facts in relation
to each of the above exhibits (lists).
II.
Valuation of work in progress on the MERMAID products as of 30 April 2008
In the exhibit Balance of work in progress on the MERMAID products, the Debtor
alleges that the total value of these semi-finished products amounts as of 30
April 2008 to 616,000 CZK, without describing the method used by it for the valuation
of these semi-finished products. We understand that the Mermaid type is
currently in the prototype phase and is not thus a series product, which, if
manufactured within continuous series production, could be appraised by a standard
accounting method. We believe that the valuation submitted by the Debtor
would be challenged by an auditor. The Debtor supports its valuation merely by
its solemn declaration.
III.
Balance of inventory in stock as of 30 April 2008
In this respect, the Debtor also presents a summary whose truthfulness and completeness
is supported only by a solemn declaration of the Debtor.
In the exhibit Balance of inventory in stock, the Debtor appraises the inventory
in stock on the basis of the last acquisition cost. Since the Debtor purchases
most of its inventory in stock in US dollars, it can be reasonably expected
that the appreciation of the Czech crown has had an adverse effect on the revaluation
of the inventory in stock and its value is now significantly lower than
the value stated by the Debtor. The current exchange rate of the Czech crown
is 15.94 CZK/USD. The Debtor purchases inventory in several monthly intervals.
For illustration, we refer to the historical exchange rate as of 1 January
2008, which was 18.07 CZK/USD.
IV.
Balance of finished products as of 30 April 2008
In this case, the Debtor also presents a summary and documents its truthfulness
and completeness merely by its solemn declaration.
V.
Balance of work in progress as of 30 April 2008
On the exhibit Balance of work in progress, the Debtor states that the value of
this work amounts to 12,677,873.23 CZK, without describing the method of this
valuation (the truthfulness of this statement is documented only by the Debtor's
solemn declaration and the Debtor does not present any relevant evidence or
arguments).
PricewaterhouseCoopers Audit, s.r.o., registered office Prague 2, Kateinsk 40/466,
Postal Code 120 00, Identification No.: 40765521 (hereinafter PWC), which
had been the Debtor's auditor since 1 January 2007, refused to provide to the
Debtor an audit of its operations unless the Debtor removes serious deficiencies
of which PWC notified the company's management, specifically Mr. Chip W. Erwin
and the Chief Financial Officer, Mr. John W. Mohr, for the first time at the
beginning of 2007. Such essential comments also included the method of valuation
of work in progress. We have been informed that, to date (i.e. as of 26
May 2008), these deficiencies have not been remedied and no audit of the Debtor's
operations for 2007 and no preliminary audit for 2008 have been conducted.
Last but not least, the last item of the list, marked with the product code Plovky
(Floats), has no official product name and product identificator, but was
still appraised by the Debtor at 560,000 CZK. We believe that such item would
not be accepted by the auditor.
VI.
List of payables to the state and employees as of 11 April 2008
The amount of the Debtor's payables to the state and employees included in the
summary presented by the Debtor was calculated as of 11 April 2008 only, while
the Debtor filed its notice with the court on 21 May 2008. We have no knowledge
of the reason why this list is dated as of 11 April 2008, particularly with
regard to the fact that the Debtor did not reduce its payables, but on the contrary,
continues to be in default in making its mandatory payments (i.e. the
value of the Debtor's payables to the state and employees is higher than the amount
stated by the Debtor).
VII.
List of loans and borrowings as of 11 April 2008
The Debtor submits false information in relation to two loans provided by Komern
banka, a.s. and to a note payable to SLAVIA CAPITAL Group, a.s. Neither Komern
banka, a.s. nor SLAVIA CAPITAL Group, a.s. were the Debtor's creditors as of
11 April 2008 for the following reasons:
- the promissory note issued by the Debtor on the order of SLAVIA CAPITAL Group,
a.s., registered office Heydukova 6, 814 99 Bratislava, Identification No.:
31 403 387, for the sum of 11,000,000 CZK, was endorsed, before the opening of
the insolvency proceedings (i.e. before 27 March 2008), in favour of the Petitioner,
who thus became a proper creditor of the Debtor. The Debtor was advised
of this fact by a written notice of SLAVIA CAPITAL Group, a.s., and the liability
arising under this promissory note is the liability on the basis of which
the Petitioner initiated these insolvency proceedings (by a petition dated 26
March 2008, which was served on the insolvency court on 27 March 2008);
- information published in the insolvency register indicates that both payables
of the Debtor to Komern banka, a.s. were assigned to FAME Jihlava, a.s. It may
be assumed that Komern banka, a.s., as the assignor of these receivables, duly
fulfilled its obligation under Section 526(1) of Act No. 40/1964 Coll., the
Civil Code, and duly notified the Debtor of the assignment of these receivables.
Even if Komern banka, a.s. had failed to fulfil this obligation to the Debtor
(which is doubted by the Petitioner), the Debtor must have learned of the
assignment of both receivables of Komern banka, a.s. to FAME Jihlava, a.s. from
the information published in the insolvency register.
Finally, it has to be noted that the value of all payables listed by the Debtor
has to be increased by the value of accessories, i.e. by the contractual and
late interest (for instance, this is represented in the Petitioner's case by interest
at the rate of 9.5% accruing on the amount of 11,000,000 CZK, plus a 6%
interest rate accruing on 11,000,000 CZK, plus 1/3% of the note sum).
VIII.
Balance of accounts receivable as of 11 April 2008
The Debtor presents to the court the balance of accounts receivable as of 11 April
2008. It is stated in the title page of this document that the data included
therein are based on balances of 2007, which has not yet been audited (notwithstanding
the fact that, pursuant to Section 128, the Debtor's financial statements
(together with their audit) should be presented, within the shortest possible
time (not later than by the end of June of this year), to the general
meeting for approval and should be filed with the collection of documents kept
by the register court).
IX.
List of advances received as of 11 April 2008
The Petitioner has the same comments regarding this exhibit as its comments on
the exhibit Balance of accounts receivable as of 11 April 2008 (see clause VIII.
above).
X.
List of accounts payable as of 11 April 2008
The Petitioner has the same comments regarding this exhibit as its comments on
the exhibit Balance of accounts receivable as of 11 April 2008 (see clause VIII.
above).
XI.
List of advances paid to suppliers as of 11 April 2008
The Petitioner has the same comments regarding this exhibit as its comments on
the exhibit Balance of accounts receivable as of 11 April 2008 (see clause VIII.
above).
XII.
Income statement as of 31 December 2007
The Debtor submits that the data included in the income statement are based on
balances of the year 2007, which has not been audited yet (see clause VIII.).
The Debtor submits that the company's loss for the financial year 2006 amounted
to 25 million CZK and its loss for the financial year 2007 amounted to 33 million
CZK. The information presented by the Debtor thus indicates that the Debtor's
operations have reported a long-time loss, which increases every year.
Moreover, the income statement cannot be considered as complete, because it lacks
the signature of the person responsible for compilation of the financial statements
and the signature of the statutory body which is the accounting entity
(the same remark also applies to the balance sheet as of 31 December 2007,
the income statement as of 30 April 2008 and the balance sheet as of 30 April
2008).
XIII.
Balance sheet as of 31 December 2007
The Debtor submits that the data included in the income statement are based on
balances of the year 2007, which has not been audited yet (see clause VIII.).
The Debtor further submits that while its equity amounted for the financial year
2006 to 28 million CZK, it amounted as of 31 December 2007 to 5 million CZK
(negative equity). This document presented by the Debtor also indicates the negative
result of the Debtor's operations.
XIV.
Income statement as of 30 April 2008
The Debtor submits that the data included in the income statement are based on
balances of the year 2007, which has not been audited yet (see clause VIII.).
In this document, the Debtor states that the profit before taxes for the relevant
financial year reached ca 9 million CZK. If we extrapolated the profit stated
by the Debtor (not including the increasing tendency), the Debtor submits that,
according to its expectations, its profit will reach as of 31 December 2008
about 27 million CZK. This means that, despite all negative impacts on the
Debtor's management (particularly the impact of the depreciating US dollar), the
Debtor would succeed in reversing the negative business result and increase
it by 60 million CZK compared with 2007, which is definitely a remarkable (but
not realistic) result.
XV.
Balance sheet as of 30 April 2008
The Debtor submits that the equity for the period amounted to 3 million CZK, i.e.
increased by 8 million CZK compared with the previous period.
It is surprising that, despite the Debtor's allegation that it has achieved a profit
in this period, such fact has not been reflected in the actual results of
the company. The Debtor failed to reduce its social service payables and its
payables to health insurance companies (on the contrary, these payables are increasing,
due to which the Debtor's executive exposes himself to potential criminal
prosecution), fails to pay wages to its employees, has failed to pay the
note payable to the Petitioner and its other liabilities to other creditors.
XVI.
Comments on the Debtor's management
The economic situation of the Debtor has been unfavourable for a long time (in
the course of the year, the Debtor faced liquidity problems, since it had no funds
to pay wages to its employees. At the same time, it has long-term overdue
liabilities). By the end of 2007 (4 December 2007), execution proceedings were
initiated against the Debtor; however, the company's executive, Mr. Ch. W. Erwin,
has concealed this fact not only from creditors, but according to a statement
of SLAVIA CAPITAL AERO (SC AERO) LIMITED, also from the company's members.
Since last November, the members have been unable to agree on the method of resolution
of the dissatisfactory condition of the Debtor. Proposals for discharge
of the company's debt were refused. PWC (authorized to conduct the Debtor's
audit) warned the Debtor systematically of the dissatisfactory situation in bookkeeping,
stating that if the Debtor fails to cure such situation, PWC will not
provide audit to the Debtor. Despite these warnings and opinions of the auditor,
the Debtor's accounts have not yet been corrected until now to comply with
the law.
Since the Debtor's executive Mr. Chip W. Erwin did not allow the other executive
of the company, Mr. Francis John Nosek III., active involvement in the business
management of the company by preventing him from access to information about
the company's management, the Debtor's executive Mr. Francis John Nosek III
decided to resign from the post of the executive (see the exhibit taken from
the collection of documents maintained by the Regional Court in Brno).
The Debtor continues to be incapable of elementary material reproduction. The company
uses material in stock. Since the beginning of 2008, the Debtor has failed
to make statutory payments on behalf of its employees. The Debtor has also
failed to pay wages to its employees for April and May. The Debtor has overdue
payables to Aircraft Industries, a.s. (the owner of the area where the manufacturing
workshop of the Debtor is located). As early as in December 2007, Aircraft
Industries, a.s. disconnected the supply of electricity and heat to the
Debtor due to the Debtor's failure to pay its liabilities and bad payment morale.
The same sanction threatens the Debtor now as well.
The audit of inventory in stock for the year 2006 identified a shortage in the
amount of 15 million CZK). In 2007, the audit also found material discrepancies
in the balance and value of inventory.
Finally, we would like to point out that, according to our information, Mr. Chip
W. Erwin possesses extensive experience with bankruptcy proceedings, since he
was involved by himself in Nextair, s.r.o., which had the same object of business
activities and which is now bankrupt.
XVII.
Conclusion
The Debtor (or its executive Mr. Ch. W. Erwin) is currently solving the dismal
situation of the company by selling work in progress (i.e. products which have
been allocated a manufacturing number and for which the customers have already
paid advances) to any customer who is willing to pay in cash (without delivering
the products to customers who have duly paid advances for them). The above
practices of the Debtor were supported by the submission of Mr. Leonardo do
Sayago of AEROMARINE, Lda, which was served on the insolvency court on 23 May
2008 (a Czech translation of this submission shall be presented by the Petitioner
to the insolvency court in the nearest future). The biggest customer with
whom the Debtor currently cooperates on this basis is Sprite Aviation.
By such conduct, the Debtor, or its executive, exposes himself to potential criminal
prosecution. At the same time, such conduct of the Debtor damages the assets
and significantly reduction possible satisfaction of the Debtor's creditors.
The Debtor currently lacks sufficient security of its manufacturing facilities,
due to which it is threatened by potential embezzlement and theft, resulting
in decrease of the assets from which the creditors should be satisfied.
The Petitioner believes that, based on the foregoing, it is in the interest of
all involved parties (creditors and members)
to appoint a preliminary insolvency trustee,
who will provide objective information about the Debtor's management and will ensure
further operation of the company within the necessary period in accordance
with the existing possibilities.
Such preliminary trustee should be charged, in particular, with taking steps necessary
to identify and to secure the Debtor's assets. Furthermore, the preliminary
trustee should be charged with a review of the Debtor's books of account
(which show a number of fundamental discrepancies). At the same time, it would
be appropriate for the preliminary trustee to direct the Debtor's conduct and
to handle the assets in a way preventing any further damage to the creditors
caused by the Debtor's conduct.
COMINVEST ASSOCIATED LIMITED
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| Subject: | CZAW bankruptcy - suggestion to CZAW dealers and cutomers |
| From: | "Kata" <kata.kavanova(at)centrum.cz> |
Dear all,
as you probably know CZAW is facing struggle for life. We were informed that some
of you are about to suite Slavia for damaging CZAW reputation etc. We can only
say you following :
(a) Go to CZAW, visit the factory, double check OC numbers of your orders
(b) Get written confirmation from Mr. Erwin that you will get specified aricraft,
that might help you later to get your deposits back or to apply your claims
at the Insolvency court in Brno
(c) Agree delivery dates in writing
For your information I enclose information we have recieved today :
______________________________________________
POLICIE ESK REPUBLIKY
Okresn editelstv Uhersk Hradit
SLUBA KRIMINLN POLICIE A VYETOVN
VELEHRADSK TDA .P. 1217
UHERSK HRADIT
.j. : ORUH-1126-1/T-2008-80
RECORD OF COMPLAINT
At Uhersk Hradit, at 12:02 p.m. on May 29, 2008, we have been notified as follows:
Name, surname: Jos Leonardo Da Costa Saiago
Today I have appeared at the local branch of the Criminal Investigation
Police at Uhersk Hradit, in order to lodge a complaint against the responsible
employee of the company Czech Aircraft Works, with its registered office
at Kunovice, by whose behavior I feel to have been deceived, since on 8. 8. 2007
I signed with the executive of this company, Chip W. Ervin, the contracts
for delivery of 7 light sports aircraft of the make SportCruiser, for which I
paid the deposits of the total value of USD 70,000. The delivery date was determined
in the contracts as 8. 2. 2008. On the delivery date, no aircraft was delivered
to me. The deposits were not returned to me either. Therefore it was
agreed that out of the paid deposits the Czech Aircraft Works will produce at
least one aircraft, whose price will be covered by the deposits paid. The delivery
date was stipulated as the end of April 2008. Up to this moment, however,
the company has not delivered even this single aircraft. I feel deceived by this
behavior, since I am afraid that the company Czech Aircraft Works did not
intend to deliver the aircraft to me. The total damage which has thus accrued
to me amounts to USD 70,000, which represents the amount of CZK 1,430,030, at
the exchange rate of the Czech National Bank as at 8. 8. 2007.
After the caution pursuant to 43(3) of the Criminal Code, I as the aggrieved party
join the criminal proceedings for the claim for indemnification of the damage
in the amount of CZK 1,430,030 and propose to the court, at the same time,
to impose on the accused, in the judgment of conviction, the obligation to indemnify
this damage.
After having read the above record, the person lodging the complaint declares that
the contents of the record correspond to the contents of his statement, and
does not require any corrections or amendments. The record is being signed as
correct and complete at Uhersk Hradit, at 12:37 p.m. on May 29, 2008.
The complaint has been received by: Police Lieutenant Ivo Otrusina
Person present at reading and signing thereof: Milan Hampl
Person who has lodged the complaint: Jos Leonardo Da Costa Saiago
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| Subject: | Re: CZAW bankruptcy - suggestion to CZAW dealers and cutomers |
| From: | "Bob_anderson" <bob_anderson2222(at)hotmail.com> |
No more SportCruiser.
It is official. CZAW is now officially bankrupt! Danny and Chip have not been telling
you the truth.
CZAW had an agreement with Zenair Ltd of Canada for the manufacturing of the Zodiac and STOL aircraft for Europe. This agreement was canceled because CZAW started making its own copies of the aircraft. CZAW owes millions of US dollars to suppliers and Zenair. It is very likely that Chip Erwin and Danny from www.sportaircraftworks.com will go to jail!
There is no way that people will get their money back on deposits. You need to
read the latest documents from the court.
http://www.matronics.com/archive/archive-get.cgi?Czech-Archive.digest.vol-aa
CZAW is now officially bankrupt. Chip Erwin and Danny need to be in jail!
Regional Court in Brno
Husova 15
601 95 Brno
File no. KSBR 44 INS 1207/2008
In Prague on 26 May 2008
XVII.
Conclusion
The Debtor (or its executive Mr. Ch. W. Erwin) is currently solving the dismal
situation of the company by selling work in progress (i.e. products which
have
been allocated a manufacturing number and for which the customers have already
paid advances) to any customer who is willing to pay in cash (without delivering
the products to customers who have duly paid advances for them). The above
practices of the Debtor were supported by the submission of Mr. Leonardo
do
Sayago of AEROMARINE, Lda, which was served on the insolvency court on 23
May
2008 (a Czech translation of this submission shall be presented by the Petitioner
to the insolvency court in the nearest future). The biggest customer with
whom the Debtor currently cooperates on this basis is Sprite Aviation.
By such conduct, the Debtor, or its executive, exposes himself to potential
criminal
prosecution. At the same time, such conduct of the Debtor damages the assets
and significantly reduction possible satisfaction of the Debtor's creditors.
The Debtor currently lacks sufficient security of its manufacturing facilities,
due to which it is threatened by potential embezzlement and theft, resulting
in decrease of the assets from which the creditors should be satisfied.
The Petitioner believes that, based on the foregoing, it is in the interest
of
all involved parties (creditors and members)
to appoint a preliminary insolvency trustee,
who will provide objective information about the Debtor's management and
will ensure
further operation of the company within the necessary period in accordance
with the existing possibilities.
Such preliminary trustee should be charged, in particular, with taking steps
necessary
to identify and to secure the Debtor's assets. Furthermore, the preliminary
trustee should be charged with a review of the Debtor's books of account
(which show a number of fundamental discrepancies). At the same time, it
would
be appropriate for the preliminary trustee to direct the Debtor's conduct
and
to handle the assets in a way preventing any further damage to the creditors
caused by the Debtor's conduct.
It is important that anyone involved with CZAW in any way read the details, which
are posted at:
http://www.matronics.com/archive/archive-get.cgi?Czech-Archive.digest.vol-aa
AIRCRAFT ENTERPRISES LTD.
holding 4515 votes, the member SLAVIA CAPITAL AERO (SC AERO) LIMITED holding
4965 votes, and the member Trihold Limited holding 540 votes. For any resolution
to be adopted, a 67% majority of all the votes of all members was always
required.
What is important here is that Chip and Danny of Sport Aircraft Works are the owners
of AIRCRAFT ENTERPRISES LTD. in Belize!!
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| Subject: | Re: Official Czech-List FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) |
| From: | "Bob_anderson" <bob_anderson2222(at)hotmail.com> |
No more SportCruiser.
It is official. CZAW is now officially bankrupt! Danny and Chip have not been telling
you the truth.
CZAW had an agreement with Zenair Ltd of Canada for the manufacturing of the Zodiac and STOL aircraft for Europe. This agreement was canceled because CZAW started making its own copies of the aircraft. CZAW owes millions of US dollars to suppliers and Zenair. It is very likely that Chip Erwin and Danny from www.sportaircraftworks.com will go to jail!
There is no way that people will get their money back on deposits. You need to
read the latest documents from the court.
http://www.matronics.com/archive/archive-get.cgi?Czech-Archive.digest.vol-aa
CZAW is now officially bankrupt. Chip Erwin and Danny need to be in jail!
Regional Court in Brno
Husova 15
601 95 Brno
File no. KSBR 44 INS 1207/2008
In Prague on 26 May 2008
XVII.
Conclusion
The Debtor (or its executive Mr. Ch. W. Erwin) is currently solving the dismal
situation of the company by selling work in progress (i.e. products which
have
been allocated a manufacturing number and for which the customers have already
paid advances) to any customer who is willing to pay in cash (without delivering
the products to customers who have duly paid advances for them). The above
practices of the Debtor were supported by the submission of Mr. Leonardo
do
Sayago of AEROMARINE, Lda, which was served on the insolvency court on 23
May
2008 (a Czech translation of this submission shall be presented by the Petitioner
to the insolvency court in the nearest future). The biggest customer with
whom the Debtor currently cooperates on this basis is Sprite Aviation.
By such conduct, the Debtor, or its executive, exposes himself to potential
criminal
prosecution. At the same time, such conduct of the Debtor damages the assets
and significantly reduction possible satisfaction of the Debtor's creditors.
The Debtor currently lacks sufficient security of its manufacturing facilities,
due to which it is threatened by potential embezzlement and theft, resulting
in decrease of the assets from which the creditors should be satisfied.
The Petitioner believes that, based on the foregoing, it is in the interest
of
all involved parties (creditors and members)
to appoint a preliminary insolvency trustee,
who will provide objective information about the Debtor's management and
will ensure
further operation of the company within the necessary period in accordance
with the existing possibilities.
Such preliminary trustee should be charged, in particular, with taking steps
necessary
to identify and to secure the Debtor's assets. Furthermore, the preliminary
trustee should be charged with a review of the Debtor's books of account
(which show a number of fundamental discrepancies). At the same time, it
would
be appropriate for the preliminary trustee to direct the Debtor's conduct
and
to handle the assets in a way preventing any further damage to the creditors
caused by the Debtor's conduct.
It is important that anyone involved with CZAW in any way read the details, which
are posted at:
http://www.matronics.com/archive/archive-get.cgi?Czech-Archive.digest.vol-aa
AIRCRAFT ENTERPRISES LTD.
holding 4515 votes, the member SLAVIA CAPITAL AERO (SC AERO) LIMITED holding
4965 votes, and the member Trihold Limited holding 540 votes. For any resolution
to be adopted, a 67% majority of all the votes of all members was always
required.
What is important here is that Chip and Danny of Sport Aircraft Works are the owners
of AIRCRAFT ENTERPRISES LTD. in Belize!!
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| Subject: | Re: CZAW bankruptcy - suggestion to CZAW dealers and cutomers |
| From: | "Bob_anderson" <bob_anderson2222(at)hotmail.com> |
Hi Bob, Thanks for your message.Chip Erwin nearly convinced me to buy 9 % of CZAWfor $800 000.He convinced (by deceiving an old friend )Slavia Capital to put in $2.4 million.The idea is that it would be 9% for me 40% for SC he would retain control and get $3.4 million but had to be content with$2.4million.My accountant smelt a rat right away. People are wondering where the money has gone ! I knew he was a very tricky dicky but never thought he would steal my OC3989from under my own eyes. The Police in Czeck Rep. unfortunately could not prevent the theft.Until it happens there is no crime.Sounds crazy but it is like that. The worst thing is that the plane was for a client/friend who had been waiting 2 years .He is very upset and I am even more because the plane wasfully paid(he hates to deliver this type of plane--does not help his cashflow !!). He forced me to sign a new agreement which I did to salvage something as I know CZAW will be history soon.The Police advised me to do it. I am sending this info to a few friends and colleagues and you may do the same.Of course he will put it around I am also part of a big conspiracy. Regards Leonardo SayagoAeromarine Lda Eng. Leonardo SayagoAeromarine, Lda.Monte do LagoMontargil - PortugalMobile: 00351917505520www.aeromarine.eu
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| Subject: | Re: Official Czech-List FAQ (Frequently Asked Questions) |
| From: | "Bob_anderson" <bob_anderson2222(at)hotmail.com> |
Chip Erwin nearly convinced me to buy 9 % of CZAWfor $800 000.He convinced (by deceiving an old friend )Slavia Capital to putin $2.4 million.The idea is that it would be 9% for me 40% for SC he would retain control and get $3.4 million but had to be content with$2.4million.My accountant smelt a rat right away. People are wondering where the money has gone ! I knew he was a very tricky dicky but never thought he would steal my OC3989from under my own eyes. The Police in Czeck Rep. unfortunately could not prevent the theft.Until it happens there is no crime.Sounds crazy but it is like that. The worst thing is that the plane was for a client/friend who had been waiting 2 years .He is very upset and I am even more because the plane wasfully paid(he hates to deliver this type of plane--does not help his cashflow !!). He forced me to sign a new agreement which I did to salvage something as I know CZAW will be history soon.The Police advised me to do it. I am sending this info to a few friends and colleagues and you may do the same.Of course he will put it around I am also part of a big conspiracy. Regards Leonardo SayagoAeromarine Lda Eng. Leonardo SayagoAeromarine, Lda.Monte do LagoMontargil - PortugalMobile: 00351917505520www.aeromarine.eu
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| Subject: | Re: CZAW Bankruptcy Petition II. |
| From: | "Bob_anderson" <bob_anderson2222(at)hotmail.com> |
Chip Erwin nearly convinced me to buy 9 % of CZAWfor $800 000.He convinced (by deceiving an old friend )Slavia Capital to put in $2.4 million.The idea is that it would be 9% for me 40% for SC he would retain control and get $3.4 million but had to be content with$2.4million.My accountant smelt a rat right away. People are wondering where the money has gone ! I knew he was a very tricky dicky but never thought he would steal my OC3989from under my own eyes. The Police in Czeck Rep. unfortunately could not prevent the theft.Until it happens there is no crime.Sounds crazy but it is like that. The worst thing is that the plane was for a client/friend who had been waiting 2 years .He is very upset and I am even more because the plane wasfully paid(he hates to deliver this type of plane--does not help his cashflow !!). He forced me to sign a new agreement which I did to salvage something as I know CZAW will be history soon.The Police advised me to do it. I am sending this info to a few friends and colleagues and you may do the same.Of course he will put it around I am also part of a big conspiracy. Regards Leonardo SayagoAeromarine Lda Eng. Leonardo SayagoAeromarine, Lda.Monte do LagoMontargil - PortugalMobile: 00351917505520www.aeromarine.eu
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| Subject: | Re: Official Czech-List Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) |
| From: | "Bob_anderson" <bob_anderson2222(at)hotmail.com> |
Hi Bob, Thanks for your message.Chip Erwin nearly convinced me to buy 9 % of CZAWfor $800 000.He convinced (by deceiving an old friend )Slavia Capital to put in $2.4 million.The idea is that it would be 9% for me 40% for SC he would retain control and get $3.4 million but had to be content with$2.4million.My accountant smelt a rat right away. People are wondering where the money has gone ! I knew he was a very tricky dicky but never thought he would steal my OC3989from under my own eyes. The Police in Czeck Rep. unfortunately could not prevent the theft.Until it happens there is no crime.Sounds crazy but it is like that. The worst thing is that the plane was for a client/friend who had been waiting 2 years .He is very upset and I am even more because the plane wasfully paid(he hates to deliver this type of plane--does not help his cashflow !!). He forced me to sign a new agreement which I did to salvage something as I know CZAW will be history soon.The Police advised me to do it. I am sending this info to a few friends and colleagues and you may do the same.Of course he will put it around I am also part of a big conspiracy. Regards Leonardo SayagoAeromarine Lda Eng. Leonardo SayagoAeromarine, Lda.Monte do LagoMontargil - PortugalMobile: 00351917505520www.aeromarine.eu
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| Subject: | Re: Official Czech-List Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) |
| From: | "Bob_anderson" <bob_anderson2222(at)hotmail.com> |
AEROMARINE, Lda Contribuinte n 507 349 253
Av. Sabia 401 A - 2765-278 M. Estoril Tel/Fax 242-901234 Email:aeromarine(at)clix.pt
Letter 01
AEROMARINE, Lda Contribuinte n 507 349 253
Av. Sabia 401 A - 2765-278 M. Estoril Tel/Fax 242-901234 Email:aeromarine(at)clix.pt
Krajsky soud v Brne
Husova 15
601 95 Brno
Czech Republic
23 May 2008
Dear Sir,
Re: CZAW in liquidation
CASE FILE No. KSBR 44 INS 1207/2008
My name is Leonardo da Costa Sayago and I am the Managing Director and owner of
Aeromarine Lda.
Mr. Erwin offered to sell me 9% of CZAW for the sum of $800,000, but my financial
advisers told
me not to invest.
A little later in the middle of 2006 I was given exclusive distribution rights
to all products of
CZAW for Portugal and Spain (Atlantic to a meridian passing through the centre
of Madrid).
For these rights Mr. Erwin convinced me to send CZAW the sum of $300,100, as a
prepayment
of 5 Sportcruisers and deposits on 5 Sportcruisers and 1 Mermaid. This order was
increased to
15 Sportcruisers and another $50,000 was sent. Deliveries were promised at a rate
of 2 per
month starting March 2007.
In about May 2007 I visited the factory to see my planes and in the presence of
Mr. John Mohr
Mr Erwin told me Why should I supply you the planes that you have already paid
for, just send
another $300,000 .
He proceeded to steal my order OC 3984 and sold it to a client of mine. I said
you have from
Aeromarine nearly $50,000 on this plane and now you are going to receive $75,000
from my
client. Do you want to be paid twice for the same plane? He replied, What a good
idea for my
cash flow . My $15,000 commission was never paid and he refused to even discuss
it.
He also sold another plane to one of my clients, Mr. Pereira, and contrary to our
written
agreement he refused to pay my company around $25 000 due on the transaction.
Mr Erwin holds $70,000 in deposits, approximately $40,000 in unpaid commissions,
$2,000 in
warranty work on faulty planes which we did not claim as we knew that he had been
insolvent
for some time.
After many false promises of delivery, he signed new contracts, now for 7 planes
in lieu of 8
outstanding (the stolen OC3984 he does not want to honour) .Deliveries were to
start in Feb
2008.But as usual absolutely no deliveries were made. .Recently he promised to
refund my
deposits. I asked that he build me one plane. He wrote a document in front of Mr.
Robert Miller,
Managing Director, Aeromarine UK Ltd confirming the transfer of my deposits as
payment in full
for a plane OC3988 which was to be delivered at the end of April. This plane has
been in the
assembly line for 3 months but remains in the same state as the day the document
was signed.
AEROMARINE, Lda Contribuinte n 507 349 253
Av. Sabia 401 A - 2765-278 M. Estoril Tel/Fax 242-901234 Email:aeromarine(at)clix.pt
Mr Erwins response when asked why it had not progressed was why should I deliver
it when it
has already been paid in full.
I am a 64 year old Naval Architect. I have been in business since 1967. I have
dealt with many
businesses from all over the World and I have NEVER come across anybody capable
of so
much prevarication, fraud, lies, deception. I know this gentleman has been involved
with other
companies that have gone bankrupt and by all accounts he has been able to buy them
back
and continue to rob clients of their hard earned cash. I hope this will not happen
on this
occasion. I am $112,000 short and he plainly refuses to deliver my goods.
Having sold me the rights to sell in Portugal and Spain he has taken a considerable
amount of
my money and failed to supply the goods. I understand he has now given those rights
to
another company. I consider this as the worst type of immoral behaviour.
Yours Faithfully
Leonardo da Sayago
C.Eng. FRINA
Managing Director
AEROMARINE, Lda Contribuinte n 507 349 253
Av. Sabia 401 A - 2765-278 M. Estoril Tel/Fax 242-901234 Email:aeromarine(at)clix.pt
Letter 02
AEROMARINE, Lda Contribuinte n 507 349 253
Av. Sabia 401 A - 2765-278 M. Estoril Tel/Fax 242-901234 Email:aeromarine(at)clix.pt
Kunovice 27th May 2008
Dear Sir,
CHIP ERWIN CAUGHT RED HANDED STEALING AIRCRAFT
Further to my letter of the 23rd of May, I decided to visit Mr. Erwin at CZAW to
collect my fully paid sportcruiser OC3989 (in error referred to OC3988 as I wrote
from
the U.K. from memory), first contracted for delivery in middle 2007, then with
written
contract for February 2008 and later for April 2008.
To my enormous surprise I found my aircraft OC3989 now being built for a new
client from HUNGARY, although Mr. Erwin did forget to change serial number,
original markings 3989 RFT PORTUGAL as can be seen on photograph enclosed.
Exibit 1.
I enclose photo taken on the 18th of March of the same plane with a client on the
background showing clearly whose aircraft this OC3989 is. Exibit 2.
For the avoidance of doubt I enclose several other photos clearly showing the aircraft
being switched from Aeromarine to a new client in Hungary. Mr. Erwin did not even
bother to charge the identity of our OC3989 serial No. 700725.
Already on OC3987 & OC3988 Aeromarine was asked to send extra funds so that
CZAW could buy engines and other fittings with the absolute promise that these
items
bought with the extra $ 50.000 would be used for our aircraft. They were not used
as
promised. Mr. Vclav Kek, than head of production, did promise me that as soon as
the items came into stock they would go to my 2 planes. After they were fitted
Mr.
Erwin ordered him to take them off my 2 aircraft and fit them to other aircraft.
I just found out that without my knowledge and permission he has incorporated an
offshore company named Aeromarine Consulting probably with the aim of avoiding
taxes due in the Czech Republic.
AEROMARINE, Lda Contribuinte n 507 349 253
Av. Sabia 401 A - 2765-278 M. Estoril Tel/Fax 242-901234 Email:aeromarine(at)clix.pt
The funds I have in CZAW are important to me as they are part of my Pension Fund.
I do hope you will not allow Mr. Erwin to consummate his theft of our aircraft
and
determine this should be handed over to us immediately.
Yours faithfully
For Aeromarine lda
Leonardo Sayago
Managing director
P.S. Today is the 28th May 2008 and I am reliably informed that at 15.50 a lorry
Reg.
No. KAP-089 driver Mr. Hadinger Passport No. 5214801A left the factory with my
fully paid aircraft OC3989 to a destination in Hungary!
AEROMARINE, Lda Contribuinte n 507 349 253
Av. Sabia 401 A - 2765-278 M. Estoril Tel/Fax 242-901234 Email:aeromarine(at)clix.pt
Letter 03
AEROMARINE, Lda Contribuinte n 507 349 253
Av. Sabia 401 A - 2765-278 M. Estoril Tel/Fax 242-901234 Email:aeromarine(at)clix.pt
Kunovice 31st of May 2008
Ref. case file No KSBR 44 INS 1207/2008
Dear Sir,
CHIP ERWIN UNREPENTANT AFTER THEFT OF OC 3989
I was able to meet yesterday Mr. Erwin who did not think it was wrong to sell my
fully paid aircraft OC 3989 RTF PORTUGAL originally for delivery middle 2007, then
contracted for February 2008, then promised for April 2008 and just sold again
to
another owner in Hungary and shipped on the 28th of May at 15.50 hours. The local
Police could not act.
The terms for the supply of 2 Kits are on document dated 30th of May. The alteration
in my handwriting were crossed by Chip Erwin. He made it clear to me that I sign
what
he wanted or go home with nothing at all. DURESS is the right word for this situation.
The former chief engineer of CZAW advised me the equipment collected is worth at
best US $ 30 000 but quite useless as CZAW will not supply essential parts not
available outside the factory.
The credit in my companys favour was US $ 112 000 and I have been given goods
worth US $ 30 000.This is how Mr. Erwin conducts business. I should consider myself
lucky I did not loose my US $ 350 100 initial payment because I now understand
he was
already insolvent at that time but talking to him nobody would imagine that. Im
sure
there are agents much worse off than myself. A different idea of business ethics.
Yours faithfully
For Aeromarine lda
Leonardo Sayago
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| Subject: | Re: CZAW Bankruptcy Petition II. |
| From: | "Bob_anderson" <bob_anderson2222(at)hotmail.com> |
AEROMARINE, Lda Contribuinte n 507 349 253
Av. Sabia 401 A - 2765-278 M. Estoril Tel/Fax 242-901234 Email:aeromarine(at)clix.pt
Letter 01
AEROMARINE, Lda Contribuinte n 507 349 253
Av. Sabia 401 A - 2765-278 M. Estoril Tel/Fax 242-901234 Email:aeromarine(at)clix.pt
Krajsky soud v Brne
Husova 15
601 95 Brno
Czech Republic
23 May 2008
Dear Sir,
Re: CZAW in liquidation
CASE FILE No. KSBR 44 INS 1207/2008
My name is Leonardo da Costa Sayago and I am the Managing Director and owner of
Aeromarine Lda.
Mr. Erwin offered to sell me 9% of CZAW for the sum of $800,000, but my financial
advisers told
me not to invest.
A little later in the middle of 2006 I was given exclusive distribution rights
to all products of
CZAW for Portugal and Spain (Atlantic to a meridian passing through the centre
of Madrid).
For these rights Mr. Erwin convinced me to send CZAW the sum of $300,100, as a
prepayment
of 5 Sportcruisers and deposits on 5 Sportcruisers and 1 Mermaid. This order was
increased to
15 Sportcruisers and another $50,000 was sent. Deliveries were promised at a rate
of 2 per
month starting March 2007.
In about May 2007 I visited the factory to see my planes and in the presence of
Mr. John Mohr
Mr Erwin told me Why should I supply you the planes that you have already paid
for, just send
another $300,000 .
He proceeded to steal my order OC 3984 and sold it to a client of mine. I said
you have from
Aeromarine nearly $50,000 on this plane and now you are going to receive $75,000
from my
client. Do you want to be paid twice for the same plane? He replied, What a good
idea for my
cash flow . My $15,000 commission was never paid and he refused to even discuss
it.
He also sold another plane to one of my clients, Mr. Pereira, and contrary to our
written
agreement he refused to pay my company around $25 000 due on the transaction.
Mr Erwin holds $70,000 in deposits, approximately $40,000 in unpaid commissions,
$2,000 in
warranty work on faulty planes which we did not claim as we knew that he had been
insolvent
for some time.
After many false promises of delivery, he signed new contracts, now for 7 planes
in lieu of 8
outstanding (the stolen OC3984 he does not want to honour) .Deliveries were to
start in Feb
2008.But as usual absolutely no deliveries were made. .Recently he promised to
refund my
deposits. I asked that he build me one plane. He wrote a document in front of Mr.
Robert Miller,
Managing Director, Aeromarine UK Ltd confirming the transfer of my deposits as
payment in full
for a plane OC3988 which was to be delivered at the end of April. This plane has
been in the
assembly line for 3 months but remains in the same state as the day the document
was signed.
AEROMARINE, Lda Contribuinte n 507 349 253
Av. Sabia 401 A - 2765-278 M. Estoril Tel/Fax 242-901234 Email:aeromarine(at)clix.pt
Mr Erwins response when asked why it had not progressed was why should I deliver
it when it
has already been paid in full.
I am a 64 year old Naval Architect. I have been in business since 1967. I have
dealt with many
businesses from all over the World and I have NEVER come across anybody capable
of so
much prevarication, fraud, lies, deception. I know this gentleman has been involved
with other
companies that have gone bankrupt and by all accounts he has been able to buy them
back
and continue to rob clients of their hard earned cash. I hope this will not happen
on this
occasion. I am $112,000 short and he plainly refuses to deliver my goods.
Having sold me the rights to sell in Portugal and Spain he has taken a considerable
amount of
my money and failed to supply the goods. I understand he has now given those rights
to
another company. I consider this as the worst type of immoral behaviour.
Yours Faithfully
Leonardo da Sayago
C.Eng. FRINA
Managing Director
AEROMARINE, Lda Contribuinte n 507 349 253
Av. Sabia 401 A - 2765-278 M. Estoril Tel/Fax 242-901234 Email:aeromarine(at)clix.pt
Letter 02
AEROMARINE, Lda Contribuinte n 507 349 253
Av. Sabia 401 A - 2765-278 M. Estoril Tel/Fax 242-901234 Email:aeromarine(at)clix.pt
Kunovice 27th May 2008
Dear Sir,
CHIP ERWIN CAUGHT RED HANDED STEALING AIRCRAFT
Further to my letter of the 23rd of May, I decided to visit Mr. Erwin at CZAW to
collect my fully paid sportcruiser OC3989 (in error referred to OC3988 as I wrote
from
the U.K. from memory), first contracted for delivery in middle 2007, then with
written
contract for February 2008 and later for April 2008.
To my enormous surprise I found my aircraft OC3989 now being built for a new
client from HUNGARY, although Mr. Erwin did forget to change serial number,
original markings 3989 RFT PORTUGAL as can be seen on photograph enclosed.
Exibit 1.
I enclose photo taken on the 18th of March of the same plane with a client on the
background showing clearly whose aircraft this OC3989 is. Exibit 2.
For the avoidance of doubt I enclose several other photos clearly showing the aircraft
being switched from Aeromarine to a new client in Hungary. Mr. Erwin did not even
bother to charge the identity of our OC3989 serial No. 700725.
Already on OC3987 & OC3988 Aeromarine was asked to send extra funds so that
CZAW could buy engines and other fittings with the absolute promise that these
items
bought with the extra $ 50.000 would be used for our aircraft. They were not used
as
promised. Mr. Vclav Kek, than head of production, did promise me that as soon as
the items came into stock they would go to my 2 planes. After they were fitted
Mr.
Erwin ordered him to take them off my 2 aircraft and fit them to other aircraft.
I just found out that without my knowledge and permission he has incorporated an
offshore company named Aeromarine Consulting probably with the aim of avoiding
taxes due in the Czech Republic.
AEROMARINE, Lda Contribuinte n 507 349 253
Av. Sabia 401 A - 2765-278 M. Estoril Tel/Fax 242-901234 Email:aeromarine(at)clix.pt
The funds I have in CZAW are important to me as they are part of my Pension Fund.
I do hope you will not allow Mr. Erwin to consummate his theft of our aircraft
and
determine this should be handed over to us immediately.
Yours faithfully
For Aeromarine lda
Leonardo Sayago
Managing director
P.S. Today is the 28th May 2008 and I am reliably informed that at 15.50 a lorry
Reg.
No. KAP-089 driver Mr. Hadinger Passport No. 5214801A left the factory with my
fully paid aircraft OC3989 to a destination in Hungary!
AEROMARINE, Lda Contribuinte n 507 349 253
Av. Sabia 401 A - 2765-278 M. Estoril Tel/Fax 242-901234 Email:aeromarine(at)clix.pt
Letter 03
AEROMARINE, Lda Contribuinte n 507 349 253
Av. Sabia 401 A - 2765-278 M. Estoril Tel/Fax 242-901234 Email:aeromarine(at)clix.pt
Kunovice 31st of May 2008
Ref. case file No KSBR 44 INS 1207/2008
Dear Sir,
CHIP ERWIN UNREPENTANT AFTER THEFT OF OC 3989
I was able to meet yesterday Mr. Erwin who did not think it was wrong to sell my
fully paid aircraft OC 3989 RTF PORTUGAL originally for delivery middle 2007, then
contracted for February 2008, then promised for April 2008 and just sold again
to
another owner in Hungary and shipped on the 28th of May at 15.50 hours. The local
Police could not act.
The terms for the supply of 2 Kits are on document dated 30th of May. The alteration
in my handwriting were crossed by Chip Erwin. He made it clear to me that I sign
what
he wanted or go home with nothing at all. DURESS is the right word for this situation.
The former chief engineer of CZAW advised me the equipment collected is worth at
best US $ 30 000 but quite useless as CZAW will not supply essential parts not
available outside the factory.
The credit in my companys favour was US $ 112 000 and I have been given goods
worth US $ 30 000.This is how Mr. Erwin conducts business. I should consider myself
lucky I did not loose my US $ 350 100 initial payment because I now understand
he was
already insolvent at that time but talking to him nobody would imagine that. Im
sure
there are agents much worse off than myself. A different idea of business ethics.
Yours faithfully
For Aeromarine lda
Leonardo Sayago
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________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: CZAW Bankruptcy Petition |
| From: | "Bob_anderson" <bob_anderson2222(at)hotmail.com> |
AEROMARINE, Lda Contribuinte n 507 349 253
Av. Sabia 401 A - 2765-278 M. Estoril Tel/Fax 242-901234 Email:aeromarine(at)clix.pt
Letter 01
AEROMARINE, Lda Contribuinte n 507 349 253
Av. Sabia 401 A - 2765-278 M. Estoril Tel/Fax 242-901234 Email:aeromarine(at)clix.pt
Krajsky soud v Brne
Husova 15
601 95 Brno
Czech Republic
23 May 2008
Dear Sir,
Re: CZAW in liquidation
CASE FILE No. KSBR 44 INS 1207/2008
My name is Leonardo da Costa Sayago and I am the Managing Director and owner of
Aeromarine Lda.
Mr. Erwin offered to sell me 9% of CZAW for the sum of $800,000, but my financial
advisers told
me not to invest.
A little later in the middle of 2006 I was given exclusive distribution rights
to all products of
CZAW for Portugal and Spain (Atlantic to a meridian passing through the centre
of Madrid).
For these rights Mr. Erwin convinced me to send CZAW the sum of $300,100, as a
prepayment
of 5 Sportcruisers and deposits on 5 Sportcruisers and 1 Mermaid. This order was
increased to
15 Sportcruisers and another $50,000 was sent. Deliveries were promised at a rate
of 2 per
month starting March 2007.
In about May 2007 I visited the factory to see my planes and in the presence of
Mr. John Mohr
Mr Erwin told me Why should I supply you the planes that you have already paid
for, just send
another $300,000 .
He proceeded to steal my order OC 3984 and sold it to a client of mine. I said
you have from
Aeromarine nearly $50,000 on this plane and now you are going to receive $75,000
from my
client. Do you want to be paid twice for the same plane? He replied, What a good
idea for my
cash flow . My $15,000 commission was never paid and he refused to even discuss
it.
He also sold another plane to one of my clients, Mr. Pereira, and contrary to our
written
agreement he refused to pay my company around $25 000 due on the transaction.
Mr Erwin holds $70,000 in deposits, approximately $40,000 in unpaid commissions,
$2,000 in
warranty work on faulty planes which we did not claim as we knew that he had been
insolvent
for some time.
After many false promises of delivery, he signed new contracts, now for 7 planes
in lieu of 8
outstanding (the stolen OC3984 he does not want to honour) .Deliveries were to
start in Feb
2008.But as usual absolutely no deliveries were made. .Recently he promised to
refund my
deposits. I asked that he build me one plane. He wrote a document in front of Mr.
Robert Miller,
Managing Director, Aeromarine UK Ltd confirming the transfer of my deposits as
payment in full
for a plane OC3988 which was to be delivered at the end of April. This plane has
been in the
assembly line for 3 months but remains in the same state as the day the document
was signed.
AEROMARINE, Lda Contribuinte n 507 349 253
Av. Sabia 401 A - 2765-278 M. Estoril Tel/Fax 242-901234 Email:aeromarine(at)clix.pt
Mr Erwins response when asked why it had not progressed was why should I deliver
it when it
has already been paid in full.
I am a 64 year old Naval Architect. I have been in business since 1967. I have
dealt with many
businesses from all over the World and I have NEVER come across anybody capable
of so
much prevarication, fraud, lies, deception. I know this gentleman has been involved
with other
companies that have gone bankrupt and by all accounts he has been able to buy them
back
and continue to rob clients of their hard earned cash. I hope this will not happen
on this
occasion. I am $112,000 short and he plainly refuses to deliver my goods.
Having sold me the rights to sell in Portugal and Spain he has taken a considerable
amount of
my money and failed to supply the goods. I understand he has now given those rights
to
another company. I consider this as the worst type of immoral behaviour.
Yours Faithfully
Leonardo da Sayago
C.Eng. FRINA
Managing Director
AEROMARINE, Lda Contribuinte n 507 349 253
Av. Sabia 401 A - 2765-278 M. Estoril Tel/Fax 242-901234 Email:aeromarine(at)clix.pt
Letter 02
AEROMARINE, Lda Contribuinte n 507 349 253
Av. Sabia 401 A - 2765-278 M. Estoril Tel/Fax 242-901234 Email:aeromarine(at)clix.pt
Kunovice 27th May 2008
Dear Sir,
CHIP ERWIN CAUGHT RED HANDED STEALING AIRCRAFT
Further to my letter of the 23rd of May, I decided to visit Mr. Erwin at CZAW to
collect my fully paid sportcruiser OC3989 (in error referred to OC3988 as I wrote
from
the U.K. from memory), first contracted for delivery in middle 2007, then with
written
contract for February 2008 and later for April 2008.
To my enormous surprise I found my aircraft OC3989 now being built for a new
client from HUNGARY, although Mr. Erwin did forget to change serial number,
original markings 3989 RFT PORTUGAL as can be seen on photograph enclosed.
Exibit 1.
I enclose photo taken on the 18th of March of the same plane with a client on the
background showing clearly whose aircraft this OC3989 is. Exibit 2.
For the avoidance of doubt I enclose several other photos clearly showing the aircraft
being switched from Aeromarine to a new client in Hungary. Mr. Erwin did not even
bother to charge the identity of our OC3989 serial No. 700725.
Already on OC3987 & OC3988 Aeromarine was asked to send extra funds so that
CZAW could buy engines and other fittings with the absolute promise that these
items
bought with the extra $ 50.000 would be used for our aircraft. They were not used
as
promised. Mr. Vclav Kek, than head of production, did promise me that as soon as
the items came into stock they would go to my 2 planes. After they were fitted
Mr.
Erwin ordered him to take them off my 2 aircraft and fit them to other aircraft.
I just found out that without my knowledge and permission he has incorporated an
offshore company named Aeromarine Consulting probably with the aim of avoiding
taxes due in the Czech Republic.
AEROMARINE, Lda Contribuinte n 507 349 253
Av. Sabia 401 A - 2765-278 M. Estoril Tel/Fax 242-901234 Email:aeromarine(at)clix.pt
The funds I have in CZAW are important to me as they are part of my Pension Fund.
I do hope you will not allow Mr. Erwin to consummate his theft of our aircraft
and
determine this should be handed over to us immediately.
Yours faithfully
For Aeromarine lda
Leonardo Sayago
Managing director
P.S. Today is the 28th May 2008 and I am reliably informed that at 15.50 a lorry
Reg.
No. KAP-089 driver Mr. Hadinger Passport No. 5214801A left the factory with my
fully paid aircraft OC3989 to a destination in Hungary!
AEROMARINE, Lda Contribuinte n 507 349 253
Av. Sabia 401 A - 2765-278 M. Estoril Tel/Fax 242-901234 Email:aeromarine(at)clix.pt
Letter 03
AEROMARINE, Lda Contribuinte n 507 349 253
Av. Sabia 401 A - 2765-278 M. Estoril Tel/Fax 242-901234 Email:aeromarine(at)clix.pt
Kunovice 31st of May 2008
Ref. case file No KSBR 44 INS 1207/2008
Dear Sir,
CHIP ERWIN UNREPENTANT AFTER THEFT OF OC 3989
I was able to meet yesterday Mr. Erwin who did not think it was wrong to sell my
fully paid aircraft OC 3989 RTF PORTUGAL originally for delivery middle 2007, then
contracted for February 2008, then promised for April 2008 and just sold again
to
another owner in Hungary and shipped on the 28th of May at 15.50 hours. The local
Police could not act.
The terms for the supply of 2 Kits are on document dated 30th of May. The alteration
in my handwriting were crossed by Chip Erwin. He made it clear to me that I sign
what
he wanted or go home with nothing at all. DURESS is the right word for this situation.
The former chief engineer of CZAW advised me the equipment collected is worth at
best US $ 30 000 but quite useless as CZAW will not supply essential parts not
available outside the factory.
The credit in my companys favour was US $ 112 000 and I have been given goods
worth US $ 30 000.This is how Mr. Erwin conducts business. I should consider myself
lucky I did not loose my US $ 350 100 initial payment because I now understand
he was
already insolvent at that time but talking to him nobody would imagine that. Im
sure
there are agents much worse off than myself. A different idea of business ethics.
Yours faithfully
For Aeromarine lda
Leonardo Sayago
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=188303#188303
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: CZAW Deposit Holders Warning |
| From: | "Bob_anderson" <bob_anderson2222(at)hotmail.com> |
AEROMARINE, Lda Contribuinte n 507 349 253
Av. Sabia 401 A - 2765-278 M. Estoril Tel/Fax 242-901234 Email:aeromarine(at)clix.pt
Letter 01
AEROMARINE, Lda Contribuinte n 507 349 253
Av. Sabia 401 A - 2765-278 M. Estoril Tel/Fax 242-901234 Email:aeromarine(at)clix.pt
Krajsky soud v Brne
Husova 15
601 95 Brno
Czech Republic
23 May 2008
Dear Sir,
Re: CZAW in liquidation
CASE FILE No. KSBR 44 INS 1207/2008
My name is Leonardo da Costa Sayago and I am the Managing Director and owner of
Aeromarine Lda.
Mr. Erwin offered to sell me 9% of CZAW for the sum of $800,000, but my financial
advisers told
me not to invest.
A little later in the middle of 2006 I was given exclusive distribution rights
to all products of
CZAW for Portugal and Spain (Atlantic to a meridian passing through the centre
of Madrid).
For these rights Mr. Erwin convinced me to send CZAW the sum of $300,100, as a
prepayment
of 5 Sportcruisers and deposits on 5 Sportcruisers and 1 Mermaid. This order was
increased to
15 Sportcruisers and another $50,000 was sent. Deliveries were promised at a rate
of 2 per
month starting March 2007.
In about May 2007 I visited the factory to see my planes and in the presence of
Mr. John Mohr
Mr Erwin told me Why should I supply you the planes that you have already paid
for, just send
another $300,000 .
He proceeded to steal my order OC 3984 and sold it to a client of mine. I said
you have from
Aeromarine nearly $50,000 on this plane and now you are going to receive $75,000
from my
client. Do you want to be paid twice for the same plane? He replied, What a good
idea for my
cash flow . My $15,000 commission was never paid and he refused to even discuss
it.
He also sold another plane to one of my clients, Mr. Pereira, and contrary to our
written
agreement he refused to pay my company around $25 000 due on the transaction.
Mr Erwin holds $70,000 in deposits, approximately $40,000 in unpaid commissions,
$2,000 in
warranty work on faulty planes which we did not claim as we knew that he had been
insolvent
for some time.
After many false promises of delivery, he signed new contracts, now for 7 planes
in lieu of 8
outstanding (the stolen OC3984 he does not want to honour) .Deliveries were to
start in Feb
2008.But as usual absolutely no deliveries were made. .Recently he promised to
refund my
deposits. I asked that he build me one plane. He wrote a document in front of Mr.
Robert Miller,
Managing Director, Aeromarine UK Ltd confirming the transfer of my deposits as
payment in full
for a plane OC3988 which was to be delivered at the end of April. This plane has
been in the
assembly line for 3 months but remains in the same state as the day the document
was signed.
AEROMARINE, Lda Contribuinte n 507 349 253
Av. Sabia 401 A - 2765-278 M. Estoril Tel/Fax 242-901234 Email:aeromarine(at)clix.pt
Mr Erwins response when asked why it had not progressed was why should I deliver
it when it
has already been paid in full.
I am a 64 year old Naval Architect. I have been in business since 1967. I have
dealt with many
businesses from all over the World and I have NEVER come across anybody capable
of so
much prevarication, fraud, lies, deception. I know this gentleman has been involved
with other
companies that have gone bankrupt and by all accounts he has been able to buy them
back
and continue to rob clients of their hard earned cash. I hope this will not happen
on this
occasion. I am $112,000 short and he plainly refuses to deliver my goods.
Having sold me the rights to sell in Portugal and Spain he has taken a considerable
amount of
my money and failed to supply the goods. I understand he has now given those rights
to
another company. I consider this as the worst type of immoral behaviour.
Yours Faithfully
Leonardo da Sayago
C.Eng. FRINA
Managing Director
AEROMARINE, Lda Contribuinte n 507 349 253
Av. Sabia 401 A - 2765-278 M. Estoril Tel/Fax 242-901234 Email:aeromarine(at)clix.pt
Letter 02
AEROMARINE, Lda Contribuinte n 507 349 253
Av. Sabia 401 A - 2765-278 M. Estoril Tel/Fax 242-901234 Email:aeromarine(at)clix.pt
Kunovice 27th May 2008
Dear Sir,
CHIP ERWIN CAUGHT RED HANDED STEALING AIRCRAFT
Further to my letter of the 23rd of May, I decided to visit Mr. Erwin at CZAW to
collect my fully paid sportcruiser OC3989 (in error referred to OC3988 as I wrote
from
the U.K. from memory), first contracted for delivery in middle 2007, then with
written
contract for February 2008 and later for April 2008.
To my enormous surprise I found my aircraft OC3989 now being built for a new
client from HUNGARY, although Mr. Erwin did forget to change serial number,
original markings 3989 RFT PORTUGAL as can be seen on photograph enclosed.
Exibit 1.
I enclose photo taken on the 18th of March of the same plane with a client on the
background showing clearly whose aircraft this OC3989 is. Exibit 2.
For the avoidance of doubt I enclose several other photos clearly showing the aircraft
being switched from Aeromarine to a new client in Hungary. Mr. Erwin did not even
bother to charge the identity of our OC3989 serial No. 700725.
Already on OC3987 & OC3988 Aeromarine was asked to send extra funds so that
CZAW could buy engines and other fittings with the absolute promise that these
items
bought with the extra $ 50.000 would be used for our aircraft. They were not used
as
promised. Mr. Vclav Kek, than head of production, did promise me that as soon as
the items came into stock they would go to my 2 planes. After they were fitted
Mr.
Erwin ordered him to take them off my 2 aircraft and fit them to other aircraft.
I just found out that without my knowledge and permission he has incorporated an
offshore company named Aeromarine Consulting probably with the aim of avoiding
taxes due in the Czech Republic.
AEROMARINE, Lda Contribuinte n 507 349 253
Av. Sabia 401 A - 2765-278 M. Estoril Tel/Fax 242-901234 Email:aeromarine(at)clix.pt
The funds I have in CZAW are important to me as they are part of my Pension Fund.
I do hope you will not allow Mr. Erwin to consummate his theft of our aircraft
and
determine this should be handed over to us immediately.
Yours faithfully
For Aeromarine lda
Leonardo Sayago
Managing director
P.S. Today is the 28th May 2008 and I am reliably informed that at 15.50 a lorry
Reg.
No. KAP-089 driver Mr. Hadinger Passport No. 5214801A left the factory with my
fully paid aircraft OC3989 to a destination in Hungary!
AEROMARINE, Lda Contribuinte n 507 349 253
Av. Sabia 401 A - 2765-278 M. Estoril Tel/Fax 242-901234 Email:aeromarine(at)clix.pt
Letter 03
AEROMARINE, Lda Contribuinte n 507 349 253
Av. Sabia 401 A - 2765-278 M. Estoril Tel/Fax 242-901234 Email:aeromarine(at)clix.pt
Kunovice 31st of May 2008
Ref. case file No KSBR 44 INS 1207/2008
Dear Sir,
CHIP ERWIN UNREPENTANT AFTER THEFT OF OC 3989
I was able to meet yesterday Mr. Erwin who did not think it was wrong to sell my
fully paid aircraft OC 3989 RTF PORTUGAL originally for delivery middle 2007, then
contracted for February 2008, then promised for April 2008 and just sold again
to
another owner in Hungary and shipped on the 28th of May at 15.50 hours. The local
Police could not act.
The terms for the supply of 2 Kits are on document dated 30th of May. The alteration
in my handwriting were crossed by Chip Erwin. He made it clear to me that I sign
what
he wanted or go home with nothing at all. DURESS is the right word for this situation.
The former chief engineer of CZAW advised me the equipment collected is worth at
best US $ 30 000 but quite useless as CZAW will not supply essential parts not
available outside the factory.
The credit in my companys favour was US $ 112 000 and I have been given goods
worth US $ 30 000.This is how Mr. Erwin conducts business. I should consider myself
lucky I did not loose my US $ 350 100 initial payment because I now understand
he was
already insolvent at that time but talking to him nobody would imagine that. Im
sure
there are agents much worse off than myself. A different idea of business ethics.
Yours faithfully
For Aeromarine lda
Leonardo Sayago
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________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: CZAW Deposit Holders Warning |
| From: | "Bob_anderson" <bob_anderson2222(at)hotmail.com> |
Hi Bob, Thanks for your message.Chip Erwin nearly convinced me to buy 9 % of CZAWfor $800 000.He convinced (by deceiving an old friend )Slavia Capital to putin $2.4 million.The idea is that it would be 9% for me 40% for SC he would retain control and get $3.4 million but had to be content with$2.4million.My accountant smelt a rat right away. People are wondering where the money has gone ! I knew he was a very tricky dicky but never thought he would steal my OC3989from under my own eyes. The Police in Czeck Rep. unfortunately could not prevent the theft.Until it happens there is no crime.Sounds crazy but it is like that. The worst thing is that the plane was for a client/friend who had been waiting 2 years .He is very upset and I am even more because the plane was fully paid(he hates to deliver this type of plane--does not help his cashflow !!). He forced me to sign a new agreement which I did to salvage something as I know CZAW will be history soon.The Police advised me to do it. I am sending this info to a few friends and colleagues and you may do the same.Of course he will put it around I am also part of a big conspiracy. Regards Leonardo SayagoAeromarine Lda Eng. Leonardo SayagoAeromarine, Lda.Monte do LagoMontargil - PortugalMobile: 00351917505520www.aeromarine.eu
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http://forums.matronics.com//files/czaw_oc3989_362.pdf
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: CZAW is bankrupt |
| From: | "Bob_anderson" <bob_anderson2222(at)hotmail.com> |
Hi Bob, Thanks for your message.Chip Erwin nearly convinced me to buy 9 % of CZAWfor $800 000.He convinced (by deceiving an old friend )Slavia Capital to put in $2.4 million.The idea is that it would be 9% for me 40% for SC he would retain control and get $3.4 million but had to be content with$2.4million.My accountant smelt a rat right away. People are wondering where the money has gone ! I knew he was a very tricky dicky but never thought he would steal my OC3989from under my own eyes. The Police in Czeck Rep. unfortunately could not prevent the theft.Until it happens there is no crime.Sounds crazy but it is like that. The worst thing is that the plane was for a client/friend who had been waiting 2 years .He is very upset and I am even more because the plane was fully paid(he hates to deliver this type of plane--does not help his cashflow !!). He forced me to sign a new agreement which I did to salvage something as I know CZAW will be history soon.The Police advised me to do it. I am sending this info to a few friends and colleagues and you may do the same.Of course he will put it around I am also part of a big conspiracy. Regards Leonardo SayagoAeromarine Lda Eng. Leonardo SayagoAeromarine, Lda.Monte do LagoMontargil - PortugalMobile: 00351917505520www.aeromarine.eu
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http://forums.matronics.com//files/czaw_oc3989_230.pdf
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | <airgriff(at)surferz.net> |
| Subject: | Sport Aircraft Works |
There have been rumors posted that Czech Aircraft Works (that makes the
Sport Cruiser) is bankrupt. I'm not sure what the reason is for all the
miss
information, but I help the NY dealer and we know that 4 planes have
just
arrived in Fla. And 5 more are on the way. We have 4 ordered, are flying
ours in a flight school every day and are taking orders for new ones.
The
company is alive and well and produces a beautiful aircraft.
Fly Safe
Bob Griffin
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | dralle(at)matronics.com |
| Subject: | Matronics Email List Fund Raiser During November! |
Dear Listers,
Each November I hold a PBS-like fund raiser to support the continued operation
and upgrade of the List services at Matronics. It's through soley through the
Contributions of List members that these Matronics Lists are possible.
You have probably noticed that there are no banner ads or pop-up windows on any of the Matronics Lists or related web sites such as the Forums site ( http://forums.matronics.com ), Wiki site ( http://wiki.matronics.com ), or other related pages such as the List Search Engine ( http://www.matronics.com/search ), List Browse ( http://www.matronics.com/listbrowse ), etc. This is because I believe in a List experience that is completely about the sport we all enjoy - namely Airplanes and not about annoying advertisments.
During the month of November I will be sending out List messages every few days
reminding everyone that the Fund Raiser is underway. I ask for your patience
and understanding during the Fund Raiser and throughout these regular messages.
The Fund Raiser is only financial support mechanism I have to pay all of the
bills associated with running these lists. Your personal Contribution counts.
Once again, this year I've got a terrific line up of free gifts to go along with
the various Contribution levels. Most all of these gifts have been provided
by some of the vary members and vendors that you'll find on Matronics Lists and
have been either donated or provided at substantially discounted rates.
This year, these generous people include Bob Nuckolls of the AeroElectric Connection (http://www.aeroelectric.com/), Andy Gold of the Builder's Bookstore (http://www.buildersbooks.com/), and Jon Croke of HomebuiltHELP (http://www.homebuilthelp.com/).
These are extremely generous guys and I encourage you to visit their respective
web sites. Each one offers a unique and very useful aviation-related product
line. I would like publicly to thank Bob, Andy, and Jon for their generous support
of the Lists again this year!!
You can make your List Contribution using any one of three secure methods this
year including using a credit card, PayPal, or by personal check. All three methods
afford you the opportunity to select one of this year's free gifts with
a qualifying Contribution amount!!
To make your Contribution, please visit the secure site below:
https://www.matronics.com/contribution
I would like to thank everyone in advance for their generous financial AND moral
support over the years. I know it sounds a little cliche, but you guys really
do feel like family.
Thank you for your support!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Contribution Site URL Clarification |
Dear Listers,
In my List Fund Raiser kickoff email last night, I mistyped the URL for the *initial*
Contribution web site and couple of people reported receiving SSL certificate
errors. The actual payment entry pages where were correct, however, so
there were no certificate issues that impacted payment data. I'm sorry for the
confusion.
Please use the following URL to start your List Contribution:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you for your support!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Please Make a Contribution to Support Your Lists... |
Dear Listers,
Just a reminder that November is the Annual List Fund Raiser. Please make a Contribution
today to support the continued operation and upgrade of
these great List services!! Pick up a really nice free gift with your qualifying
Contribution too!
The Contribution Site is fast and easy:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| Subject: | BrightLine Bags Pilot Flight Bag |
| From: | "BrightLine" <info(at)brightlinebags.com> |
Hello Everyone,
My name is Bryan Smith and I am with a company called BrightLine Bags. I do not want to offend anybody by posting on this list, so I apologize in advance if I have. I am a student pilot as well. I posted on the Commander list with the help of a Commander owner and received wonderful response from quite a few Commander owners. We make a brand new type of Pilot Flight Bag. It is like nothing you have seen or used before. If you use a flight bag, I am quite certain that if you go to our website at www.brightlinebags.com and click on the demo video http://brightlinebags.ipower.com/videopage.html, you will be impressed. Thank you everyone for this forum. If you have any questions, you can contact me directly at bryan@brightlinebags.com. We will also be at AOPA Expo booth 1741. Come by and say hi. Thanks again!
Bryan
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=212119#212119
Attachments:
http://forums.matronics.com//files/brightline_pilot_flight_bag_281.jpg
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | List Fund Raiser |
A couple of years ago I implemented an automatic "squelch button" of sorts for
the Fund Raiser messages. Here's how it works... As soon as a List member makes
a
Contribution through the Matronics Fund Raiser web site, he or she will instantly
cease to receive these Fund Raiser messages for the rest of the month! Its
just that simple. Don't you wish PBS worked that way! :-)
I really do appreciate each and every one of your individual Contributions to support
the Lists. It is your support that enables me to upgrade the hardware
and
software that are required to run a List Site like this. It also goes to pay for
the commercial-grade Internet connection and to pay the huge electric bill
to
keep the computer gear running and the air conditioner powered on. I run all of
the Matronics Email List and Forums sites here locally which allows me to
control and monitor every aspect of the system for the utmost in reliably and performance.
Your personal Contribution matters because, when combined with other Listers such
as yourself, it pays the bills to keep this site up and running. I accept
exactly ZERO advertising dollars for the Matronics Lists sites. I can't stand
the pop-up ads and all other commercials that are so prevalent on the Internet
these days and I particularly don't want to have it on my Email List sites.
If you appreciate the ad-free, grass-roots, down-home feel of the Matronics Email
Lists, please make a Contribution to keep it that way!!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
[Note that there are certain circumstances where you might still see a Contribution
related message. For example, if someone replies to one of the messages,
when using the List Browse feature, or when accessing List message via the Forum.
The system keys on the given email address and since most of these are
anonymous public access methods, there is no simple way to filter them.]
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
Dear Listers,
Just a quick reminder that November is the annual List Fund Raiser. The Matronics
Lists are 100% member supported and all of the operational costs are provided
for my your Contributions during this time of the year.
Your personal Contribution makes a difference and keeps all of the Matronics Email
Lists and Forums completely ad-free.
Please make your Contribution today to keep these services up and running!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you in advance!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Fund Raiser List of Contributors - Please Make A Contribution |
Today!
Each year at the end of the List Fund Raiser, I post a message acknowledging everyone
that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its sort of
my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation
for the Lists.
Won't you take a moment and assure that your name is on that List of Contributors
(LOC)? As a number of members have pointed out over the years, the List seems
at least - if not a whole lot more - valuable as a building/flying/recreating/entertainment
tool as your typical magazine subscription!
Please take minute and assure that your name is on this year's LOC! Show others
that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is
fast and easy using your Credit card or Paypal on the Secure Web Site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
PO Box 347
Livermore CA 94551-0347
I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus
far in this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps
these Lists going and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about
how the Lists have helped you!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Please Make A Contribution To Support Your Lists |
Dear Listers,
There is no advertising income to support the Matronics Email Lists and Forums.
The operation is supported 100% by your personal Contributions during the November
Fund Raiser.
Please make your Contribution today to support the continued operation and upgrade
of these services. You can pick up a really nice gift for making your Contribution
too!
You may use a Credit Card or Paypal at the Matronics Contribution Site here:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or, you can send a personal check to the following address:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
PO Box 347
Livermore, CA 94551-0347
Thank you in advance for your generous support!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Fund Raiser Lagging Last Year By Over 30%... |
As of the 13th, the Fund Raiser is currently about 30% behind last year in terms
of the number of Contributions. Yet, oddly the number of messages posted per
day is up by 10 to 20% on the average. It costs real money to run these Lists
and they are supported 100% though your Contributions during the Fund Raiser.
Won't you please take a minute right now to make your Contribution to keep
these Lists up and running?
Contribution Page:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you for your support!
Matt Dralle
Email List Admin.
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | What's My Contribution Used For? |
Dear Listers,
Some have asked, "What's my Contribution used for?" and that's a good question.
Here are just a few examples of what your direct List support enables. It provides
for the very expensive, commercial-grade T1 Internet connection used on
the List insuring maximum performance and minimal contention when accessing
List services. It pays for the regular system hardware and software upgrades
enabling the highest performance possible for services such as the Archive Search
Engine, List Browser, and Forums. It pays for 19+ years worth of online archive
data available for instant random search and access. And, it offsets the
many hours spent writing, developing, and maintaining the custom applications
that power this List Service such as the List Browse, Search Engine, Forums,
Wiki and PhotoShare.
But most importantly, your List Contribution enables a forum where you and your
peers can communicate freely in an environment that is free from moderation,
censorship, advertising, commercialism, SPAM, and computer viruses. How many
places on the Internet can you make all those statements these days?
It is YOUR CONTRIBUTION that directly enables these many aspects of these valuable
List services. Please support it today with your List Contribution. Its
one of the best investments you can make in your Sport...
List Contribution Web Site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you for your support!
Matt Dralle
Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | What Members Are Saying... |
Dear Listers,
November is the Annual Matronics List Fund Raiser. The Lists are supported solely
through your generous Contributions during this time. Please make your Contribution
today and pick up a really nice free gift at this same time:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Listers have been including some really nice comments regarding what the Lists
mean to them along with their Contributions this year. I've included a few of
them below. Please read them over and see if some perhaps echo your feelings
as well.
Thank you for your support this year!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator
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Best bargain in the entire industry!!
-Owen B
Every year your lists are better, sure #1 in e-mail list in the world.
-Gary G
Thank you for an awesome site!
-Ashley M
Your lists are important to me and well worth paying for.
-Calvin A
Thank you for providing such and informative and ad free environment
to learn by.
-Myron H
As always, a valuable and extremely useful resource.
Stephen T
As always, a great service.
-Reade G
Very much appreciate this site and the communications it has
enabled between builders.
-Larry M
This service is worth every penny.
-Robert S
Great site! Thanks a ton for its functionality!
-Peter B
The RV-10 list feels like my community.
-Dave S
The lists are fantastic, a great source!
-Jimmy Y
I've learned a lot from the List.
-Gabriel F
A wonderful resource.
-Gerald G
Well done.
-Richard N
Years of good service.
-William M
Valuable service.
-Keith H
The site is quite helpful.
-Jon M
Very interesting List that I read form the beginning.
-Alain L
A well managed site.
-Carl B
Great service.
-Svein Kare J
Still the most useful program on the computer.
-Fergus K
Great contribution to my project!
-Robert K
Thanks for keeping a great list.
-Dt G
The List continues to provide excellent information.
-Tony C
This is a wonderful resource that has easily saved me a bunch on
my build-time.
-Ralph C
Thank you for providing a great service. The Zenith builder's community
would be in sad shape without the Zenith-List's.
-Terrence P
I really do get pleasure out of reading the List every day.
-Bill V
Great source of information.
-Arthur V
Thanks for a great service. Very enjoyable.
-Louis B
You know we all could not do without your support!!
-James S
Great resource!
-Douglas D
Thanks for the great service.
-John B
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Behind By 21% - Advertising May Be Needed...? |
Dear Listers,
The percentage of people making a Contribution to support the Lists this year is
currently lagging behind last year by approximately 21%! I'm hoping that everyone
is just waiting until the last minute to show their support... ;-)
Please remember that it is solely your direct Contributions that keep these Lists
up and running and most importantly - AD FREE! If the members don't want to
support the Lists directly, then I will likely have to start adding advertisements
to offset the costs of running the Lists. But I *really* don't want to
have to start doing that. I really like the non-commercial atmosphere here and
I think that a lot of the members appreciate that too.
Please take a moment to make a Contribution today in support of the continued ad-free
operation of all these Lists:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
I want to send out a word of appreciation to all of the members that have already
made their generous Contribution to support the Lists! Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
Dear Listers,
Each year at the end of the List Fund Raiser, I post a message acknowledging everyone
that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its sort
of my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation
for the Lists.
Won't you take a moment and assure that your name is on that List of Contributors
(LOC)? As a number of members have pointed out over the years, the List seems
at least - if not a whole lot more - valuable as a building/flying/recreating/entertainment
tool as your typical magazine subscription!
Please take minute and assure that your name is on this year's LOC! Show others
that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is
fast and easy using your Credit card or Paypal on the Secure Web Site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or by popping a personal check in the mail to:
Matronics Email Lists
c/o Matt Dralle
PO Box 347
Livermore CA 94551-0347
I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus
far in this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps
these Lists going and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about
how the Lists have helped you!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Value of the List... |
If you look forward to checking your List email everyday (and a lot of you have
written to say that you do!), then you're probably getting at least $20 or $30
worth of Entertainment from the Lists each year. You'd pay twice that for a
subscription to some lame magazine or even just a single dinner out. Isn't the
List worth at least that much to you?
Won't you please take a minute to make your Contribution today and support the
Lists?
Contribution Page:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Again, I want to say THANK YOU to everyone that has made a Contribution thus far
during this year's List Fund Raiser!! These Lists are made possible exclusively
through YOUR generosity!!
Thank you for your support!
Matt Dralle
Email List Admin.
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Just A Few More Days... |
Dear Listers,
There are just a few more days left in this year's List Fund Raiser. There are
some great gifts available when you make a qualifying Contribution and there's
plenty still available. Don't forget that its *your* Contribution that keeps
the computers running, the electricity turned on, and the computer room AC cooling!
If you look forward to reading your List email each day, won't you please take
a minute right now to make your personal Contribution?
Credit Card or Paypal:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Personal Check:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
PO Box 347
Livermore, CA 94550
Thank you for your support!
Matt Dralle
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Just 3 Days Left - Please Make Your List Contribution Today! |
There are only three days left until the end of this year's List Fund Raiser.
Please take a minute to show your support as so many others have this year and
make sure YOUR name is on the forthcoming List of Contributors 2008!
Its quick and easy using the secure web site with a credit card or PayPal:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or by sending your personal check to:
Matronics Lists c/o Matt Dralle
PO Box 347
Livermore, CA 94551-0347
(Please write your email address on the check!)
Thank you in advance for your support of these List services!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email and Forum Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | What Listers Have Been Saying |
Wow! Many of the members making a List Support Contribution this year have been
using the Comments field to leave a personal message about the Lists. Thank
you! I have included a number of them below. Please read over a few and see
if you perhaps can echo some of the same sentiments regarding the value of the
Lists to you...
There is only a couple more days left for this year's List Fund Raiser and we're
still way behind previous years. If you've been waiting until the last minute
to show your support, Now is the Time! Please make your Contribution and pick
up a great gift at the same time!
By Credit Card or Paypal:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or By Personal Check:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
PO Box 347
Livermore, CA 94550-7227
Thank you in advance!!
Matt Dralle
Email List and Forums Administrator
Here is some of the great feedback members have been including along with their
personal Contributions this year...
Over the years, the info I have received from the RV-List has
saved me thousands of dollars, and dozens of hours of time by
helping me avoid bad purchases, pointing me at vendors with
low prices and excellent support, and providing solutions to
the typical head scratchers that you run into.
Kevin H
Valuable service. Best List(s) on the Internet!
George A
Please accept this token not as an indicator of what
this list has been worth to me this past year.
Lew G
Great information and entertainment.
Tim V
Thanks again for another great year of service. This
project would be beyond me if it were not for the list.
Moreover, the friendships I have found are worth their
weight in GOLD!
Robert B
Great support you provide to all the subscribers!
Freddie H
Read it every day.
PF B
Thanks for your excellent management of the Matronics
Lists! Your services are head and shoulders above the
rest.
James M
Without the "List", there would be no Kolb "community".
Bill T
Thanks, Matt, for a great service! I've been monitoring
and using the lists since 1999.
Richard D
Thanks for such a terrific site and for all the work and
effort you put into it.
John R
A great service year after year.
John D
..another year of fantastic service.
Jerry B
This list is a great resource.
Arden A
Great list.
James M
Lists were a great help while building HRII N561FS.
John S
Great resources for both the beginner and experienced.
George R
Good service.
Gary G
The List is an invaluable resource!
William C
AeroElectric list is a great source of info and learning!
Janice J
Thank you, Matt for being there for us making it all happen
on the List for so many years - Great JOB!
Sam S
Thank you for providing a great venue. You definitely hit
the nail on the head with your solicitation asking if
readers look forward to receiving the email digests. I
certainly do and when I move from a dreamer to a builder, I
expect the anticipation will only increase.
Joe S
Thanks for a Perfect working list.
Hans-Peter R
Great List
Bryan K
Such a great selection of valuable forums!
David G
Nice job!
Walt E
Good resource...
Robert P
Thank you for another great year!
Scott S
I could not do this without you...
Robert D
I believe I've been a list member for over a decade
now. Thanks for the service!
Tim L
Great List
Hendrik W
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Last "Official" Day Of The List Fund Raiser! |
Dear Listers,
Its November 30th and that means three things:..
1) Today I am now officially 45 years old...
2) It marks that last "official" day of this year's List Fund Raiser!
3) Its the last day I will be bugging everyone for a whole year!
If you use the Lists and enjoy the content and the no-advertising, no-spam, and
no-censorship way in which they're run, please make a Contribution today to support
their continued operation and upkeep. Your $20 or $30 goes a long way
to keep the List bills paid.
I will be posting the List of Contributors next week so make sure your name is
on it!
Thank you to everyone that has made a Contribution so far this year! It is greatly
appreciated.
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Email List and Forum Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | List of Contributors 2008 |
Dear Listers,
This year's Fund Raiser has drawn to a close and I want to thank everyone that
so generously made a contribution this year in support of the Matronics Email
List and Forum operation. Your generosity keeps the wheels on this cart and I
truly appreciate the many kind words of encouragement and financial reimbursement.
If you haven't yet made a Contribution in support of this year's Fund Raiser, please
feel free to do so. The great List Fund Raiser gifts will be available
on the Contribution site for a little while longer, so hurry and make your Contribution
today and still get your great gift! Once again, the URL for the Contribution
web site is:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or by personal check to:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
PO Box 347
Livermore CA 94551-0347
I would like to thank Andy Gold of the Builder's Bookstore ( http://www.buildersbooks.com ), Jon Croke of HomebuiltHELP ( http://www.homebuilthelp.com ) and Bob Nuckolls of AeroElectric ( http://www.aeroelectric.com ) for their extremely generous support during this year's Fund Raiser through the contribution of discounted merchandise. These are great guys that support the aviation industry and I encourage each and every Lister to have a look at their products. Thank you Andy, Jon and Bob!! Your support is very much appreciated!
And finally, below you will find a web link to the 2008 List of Contributors current
as of 12/7/08! Have a look at this list of names as *these* are the people
that make all of these List services possible! I can't thank each of you
enough for your support and great feedback during this year's Fund Raiser!
THANK YOU!
http://www.matronics.com/loc/2008.html
I will be shipping out all of the gifts around the end of December. In most cases,
gifts will be shipped via US Postal Service.
Once again, thank you for making this year's List Fund Raiser successful!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| Subject: | Re: CZAW bankruptcy - suggestion to CZAW dealers and cutomers |
| From: | "babula" <babulakila(at)live.com> |
How much will bankruptcy effect being able to rent a home? I had to file a chapter
7 a few months ago. I am now looking to rent a home, will my bankruptcy effect
me being able to do so?
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=255182#255182
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | PLEASE READ - Matronics Email List Fund Raiser During November! |
Dear Listers,
Each November I hold a PBS-like fund raiser to support the continued operation and upgrade of the List services at Matronics. It's solely through the Contributions of List members that these Matronics Lists are possible. There is NO advertising to support the Lists. You might have noticed the conspicuous lack of flashing banners and annoying pop-ups on the Matronics Email List email messages and web site pages such as the Matronics List Forums ( http://forums.matronics.com ), the List Wiki ( http://wiki.matronics.com), or other related pages such as the List Search Engine ( http://www.matronics.com/search ), the List Browser ( http://www.matronics.com/listbrowse ), etc. This is because I believe in a List experience that is completely about the sport we all enjoy - namely Airplanes and not about annoying advertisements.
During the month of November I will be sending out List messages every couple of
days reminding everyone that the Fund Raiser is underway. I ask for your patience
and understanding during the Fund Raiser and throughout these regular messages.
The Fund Raiser is only financial support mechanism I have to pay all
of the bills associated with running these lists. Your personal Contribution
counts!
Once again, this year I've got a terrific line up of free gifts to go along with
the various Contribution levels. Most all of these gifts have been provided
by some of the vary members and vendors that you'll find on Matronics Lists and
have been either donated or provided at substantially discounted rates.
This year, these generous people include Bob Nuckolls of the AeroElectric Connection (http://www.aeroelectric.com/), Andy Gold of the Builder's Bookstore (http://www.buildersbooks.com/), and Jon Croke of HomebuiltHELP (http://www.homebuilthelp.com/).
These are extremely generous guys and I encourage you to visit their respective
web sites. Each one offers a unique and very useful aviation-related product
line. I would like publicly to thank Bob, Andy, and Jon for their generous support
of the Lists again this year!!
You can make your List Contribution using any one of three secure methods this
year including using a credit card, PayPal, or by personal check. All three methods
afford you the opportunity to select one of this year's free gifts with
a qualifying Contribution amount!!
To make your Contribution, please visit the secure site below:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
I would like to thank everyone in advance for their generous financial AND moral
support over the years!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | November List Fund Raiser |
A couple of years ago I implemented an automatic "squelch button" of sorts for
the Fund Raiser messages. Here's how it works... As soon as a List member makes
a Contribution through the Matronics Fund Raiser web site, he or she will
instantly cease to receive these Fund Raiser messages for the rest of the month!
Its just that simple. Don't you wish PBS worked that way! :-)
I really do appreciate each and every one of your individual Contributions to support
the Lists. It is your support that enables me to upgrade the hardware
and software that are required to run a List Site such as this one. It also goes
to pay for the commercial-grade Internet connection and to pay the huge electric
bill to keep the computer gear running and the air conditioner powered
on. I run all of the Matronics Email List and Forums sites here locally which
allows me to control and monitor every aspect of the system for the utmost in
reliably and performance.
Your personal Contribution matters because, when combined with other Listers such
as yourself, it pays the bills to keep this site up and running. I accept
exactly ZERO advertising dollars for the Matronics Lists sites. I can't stand
the pop-up ads and all other commercials that are so prevalent on the Internet
these days and I particularly don't want to have it on my Email List sites.
If you appreciate the ad-free, grass-roots, down-home feel of the Matronics Email
Lists, please make a Contribution to keep it that way!!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
[Note that there are certain circumstances where you might still see a Contribution
related message. For example, if someone replies to one of the messages,
when using the List Browse feature, or when accessing List message via the Forum.
The system keys on the given email address and since most of these are anonymous
public access methods, there is no simple way to filter them.]
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
Dear Listers,
Just a quick reminder that November is the annual List Fund Raiser. The Matronics
Lists are 100% member supported and all of the operational costs are provided
for my your Contributions during this time of the year.
Your personal Contribution makes a difference and keeps all of the Matronics Email
Lists and Forums completely ad-free.
Please make your Contribution today to keep these services up and running!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you in advance!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Please Make A Contribution To Support Your Lists |
Dear Listers,
There is no advertising income to support the Matronics Email Lists and Forums.
The operation is supported 100% by your personal Contributions during the November
Fund
Raiser.
Please make your Contribution today to support the continued operation and upgrade
of these services. You can pick up a really nice gift for making your Contribution
too!
You may use a Credit Card or Paypal at the Matronics Contribution Site here:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or, you can send a personal check to the following address:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
PO Box 347
Livermore, CA 94551-0347
Thank you in advance for your generous support!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Fund Raiser List of Contributors - Please Make A Contribution |
Today!
Each year at the end of the List Fund Raiser, I post a message acknowledging everyone
that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its my way
of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation for
the Lists.
Won't you take a moment and assure that your name is on that List of Contributors
(LOC)? As a number of members have pointed out over the years, the List seems
at least - if not a whole lot more - valuable as a building/flying/recreating/entertainment
tool as your typical magazine subscription!
Please take minute and assure that your name is on this year's LOC! Show others
that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is
fast and easy using your Credit card or Paypal on the Secure Web Site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
PO Box 347
Livermore CA 94551-0347
I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus
far in this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps
these Lists going and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about
how the Lists have helped you!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | List Fund Raiser |
Dear Listers,
Just a reminder that November is the Matronics Email List Fund Raiser month. There
are some very nice incentive gifts to choose from as well!
Please make your Contribution today:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| Subject: | Apple Iphone 3G S 32GB $280 Nokia N97 Mini$300 Blackberry |
| From: | "instore" <phonecreationltd(at)yahoo.com> |
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Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=272420#272420
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Some Very Nice Comments... |
Dear Listers,
I've been getting some really nice comments from Listers along with their List
Support Contributions. I've shared some of them below. Please read them over
and see what your fellow Listers think of the Lists and Forums.
Please make a Contribution today to support the continued upgrade and operation
of these services.
There are lots of sweet gifts available, so browse the extensive selection and
pickup a nice item along with your qualifying Contribution.
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you in advance for your generous support! It is very much appreciated!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
----------- What Listers Are Saying About The Lists -----------
Few things in life bring more usefulness than the List. This
is worth every penny!
Stephen T.
I have enjoyed the list for way too many years, but continue
to get closer to flying my project with the help of listers.
C.L.
Thanks for this List. It's been a great source of encouragement
and information.
Arden A.
Great service!
Gerald T.
It's always interesting reading the lists and I've gotten some
good help from the issues and answers there.
Steve T.
Been a member of the List for 12 years. Keep up the good work.
John H.
Great Site!
Harry M.
Great source of information...
Martin H.
Thanks for providing this great service!
Jeff P.
I continue to get and give information through these lists.
Ralph C.
This is a wonderful resource!
Warren H.
This is what inernet was meant for, sharing information and
experience. Michael W.
Thanks for making such a good list!
Fred D.
Thanks for running a great service!
Michael F.
I really appreciate it.
Dan H.
Thanks for the great service.
Michael L.
Thanks for maintaining this great resource.
John C.
Your sites have been a great resourses and an introduction
to many competent aircraft designers and fabricators.
Jon M.
Thanks for all that you do to maintain the Matronics forums
and for the personal help that you have been to me in
answering my questions regarding the use of the forums.
William B.
[The List] helped me get flying, fly off my test hours and
make my systems better. Ralph C.
The Universe is a better place because of you.
Eric J.
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Contributions Down By 21%... |
Dear Listers,
As of today, contributions to the Matronics List Fund Raiser are lagging behind
last year at this time by 21%. I have a fund raiser each year simply to cover
my operating costs for the Lists. I *do not* accept any advertising income
to support the Lists and rely solely on the contributions of members to keep the
expenses paid.
I run all of my own servers and they are housed here locally, and the Internet
connection is a commercial-grade, T1 connection with public address space. I
also maintain a full backup system that does nightly backups of all List-related
data so that in the event of a server crash or worse, all of the Lists and
the many years of List archive data could be restored onto a new server in a matter
of hours.
All of this costs a fair amount of money, not to mention a significant amount of
my personal time as well. I have a Fund Raiser each year to cover these costs
and I ask that members that feel they receive a benefit from my investments,
make a modest contribution each year to support the continued operation and
upgrade of these services.
If you enjoy the Lists, please make a contribution today. I also offer some incentive
gifts for larger contribution levels. At the Contribution Web Wite, you
can use a credit card, Paypal, or personal check to show your support for the
continuation of these services:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you for your support!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | What's My Contribution Used For? |
Dear Listers,
Some have asked, "What's my Contribution used for?" and that's a good question.
Here are just a few examples of what your direct List support enables. It provides
for the very expensive, commercial-grade T1 Internet connection used on
the List insuring maximum performance and minimal contention when accessing List
services. It pays for the regular system hardware and software upgrades enabling
the highest performance possible for services such as the Archive Search
Engine, List Browser, and Forums. It pays for narly 20 years (yeah, I really
said *20* years) worth of online archive data available for instant random search
and access. And, it offsets the many hours spent writing, developing, and
maintaining the custom applications that power this List Service such as the List
Browse, Search Engine, Forums, and Wiki.
But most importantly, your List Contribution enables a forum where you and your
peers can communicate freely in an environment that is free from moderation,
censorship, advertising, commercialism, SPAM, and computer viruses. How many places
on the Internet can you make all those statements these days?
It is YOUR CONTRIBUTION that directly enables these many aspects of these valuable
List services. Please support it today with your List Contribution. Its one
of the best investments you can make in your Sport...
List Contribution Web Site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you for your support!
Matt Dralle
Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Just A Few Days Left; Still Trailing Last Year... |
Dear Listers,
There are just a few more days left of this year's List Fund Raiser! Response
has been very good, but still well behind last year. If you've been waiting until
the last minute to make your contribution and maybe even pick up a great
gift, now might be good time to show your support!
Please remember that there isn't any sort of commercial advertising on the Lists
and the *only* means of keeping these Lists running is through your Contributions
during this Fund Raiser.
Please make a Contribution today!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Make Sure You're Listed! List of Contributors Published in |
December!
Dear Listers,
The List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner! In December I post a
list of everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists.
Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation
for the Lists.
Won't you take minute and assure that your name is on the upcoming LOC? Tell others
that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists
is fast and easy using your Visa, MasterCard, or Paypal account:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
PO Box 347
Livermore CA 94551-0347
USA
(Please include your email address on the check!)
I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus
far during this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps
these Lists running and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment
about how the Lists have helped you!
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Just A Few More Days To Make Your List Contribution... |
There is less than a week left in this year's List Fund Raiser and only a few short
days to grab one of the great Contribution Gifts available this year. Support
is still significantly lagging behind last year at this point but hopefully
it will pick up here towards the end. Please remember that it is solely the
Contributions of List members that keeps the Lists up and running as there
is no commercialism or advertising on the Matronics Lists and Forums.
The List Contribution web site is secure, fast, and easy and you can use a credit
card, Paypal, or a personal check:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
I want to thank everyone that has already made a generous contribution to support
the Lists!
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics EMail List and Forum Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | What Are You Thankful For...? |
Dear Listers,
Here in the United States, Thursday is our National day of Thanksgiving. Many
of us will be traveling to be with our families and friends to share in generous
feasts of plenty and giving thanks for many blessings that have been bestowed
upon us.
Many Listers have expressed over the last couple of weeks how thankful they are
for the Email Lists and Forums here on the Matronics servers and for all of the
assistance and comradery they have experienced being a part of the Lists.
One of my favorite comments is when someone writes to me and says something like,
"Its the first thing I do in the morning while I'm having my morning coffee!".
That's a wonderful tribute to the purpose and function of these Lists.
Its always great to hear I'm not the only one that jumps out of bed each morning
to check my List email!!
Won't you take a minute today and show your appreciation for these Lists and for
their continued operation and upgrade?
The List Contribution Site is:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you in advance for your kind consideration,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | No "Black Friday" For List Fund Raiser... |
Even though the number of List subscriptions and List posts are up significantly
this year compared to last year, support during this year's List Fund Raiser
has been woefully lagging from last year. There are only a couple more days
left in November and the end of the Fund Raiser is quickly approaching.
I have always preferred a non-commercial List experience as many, many members
have also expressed that they do as well. However, if the yearly fund raiser
cannot generate sufficient funds to keep the bills paid on the List service expenses,
I will have to look into some sort of advertising. Please don't let that
happen!
Your personal contribution of $20 or $30 goes a long ways to keeping the operation
a float. The lunch combo at Carl's Jr costs nearly $10 these days. Isn't
the List worth at least as much as a couple of burgers?
Please make sure your name is on this year's List of Contributors published in
December. The Contribution site is secure, quick, and easy:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you in advance for your support!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Just Two More Days Left; Fund Raiser Behind By 12%... |
Dear Listers,
This year's List Fund Raiser is still trailing last year by a 12% margin. If you
like the ad-free environment that is the Matronics Email List and Forum experience,
please make a quick Contribution to keep it that way!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
I've been getting a ton of really nice comments from Contributors regarding the
Lists. Please read over some of them below and see if they don't resonate with
you as well.
Thank you in advance for your generous contribution to support these Lists!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
--------------------------- Member Feedback ----------------------------
ur web site is a real institution of the whole Experimental
Aircraft subculture.
John G
Thanks Matt for the lists. A lot of good info. Great bunch
of list members. Great videos and no SPAM.
Paul C
It has been a valuable tool.
Troy M
..appreciate the site as much as ever.
Larry M
By using various forums I've learned a ton, received great
advice, made friends, and saved money!
Craig W
Since I've finished [my project], I've not had much to do as
far as fabrication of electrical systems. However,
selectively reading various topics is still very valuable
and Bob's insights and new how to's make me a continuous
subscriber.
Larry F
Matronics user groups are the best tool I have for learning
to build my RV-10!
Philip W
There is always useful knowledge to be found on this list,
and I suspect that it has kept quite a few people out of
trouble over the years it has been in operation. Good
entertainment, too.
Graham H
Great web site. I wish I'd known about it while building.
Bob S
I'm happy to provide some support to this list. It is very
helpful.
Vaughn T
Good service to sport aviation!!
Roger B
Awesome Service you provide for us!
Bill R
My [project] is almost finished! However, it wouldn't be
close without the [this] group.
Douwe B
Great list.
Robert S
I'm not a builder yet but learning lots from the list.
Peter M
Some nonsense, some humor, but mostly good information.
Tony C
Thanks for creating and keeping the Lists. They are
entertaining and always informative!
John M
Thanks for this valuable resource to our community.
Barry H
The list is IMHO the greatest resource on the net.
John B
Thanks again for providing another year of your useful
List service.
Jerry B
Great site indeed, every time I get a message I usually
learn something.
Peter B
You are making a huge contribution to the builder fraternity
and in no small way enhancing sport aviation safety.
Richard G
The List is the SINGLE, MOST IMPORTANT resource I have in
building my RV10. I would be lost without out it. And I
have made a bunch of new friends as well!
Les K
The lists are one of the things I really enjoy, so keep
up the good work.
Freddie H
Every year -- the best value for my time and money!
Owen B
This list is a major contribution to safe building!
Donald K
Really enjoy the daily boost it gives me.
Walter S
In the last 18 months I have been privileged to listen &
ask. I have learnt at the feet of the masters...
Stewart G
You set the standard on how Internet forums should be run
and managed.
Larry W
The Universe is a better place because of you.
Eric J
[The List] helped me get flying, fly off my test hours and
make my systems better. I continue to get and give
information through these lists.
Ralph C
..another GREAT year of advice, answers, and inspiration
courtesy of the Lists and your hard work!!!!
Rob B
..the best forum on the Internet!
Robert B
I can't tell you how grateful I am for your list and your
subscribers to keep me up to date and holding the dream.
Ashley M
This page makes it easy to contribute.
Jeffrey P
Thank you for your expertise in creating & running the
much useful lists!
Anthony P
Thanks for providing our advertising free on line community.
George R
Thanks for maintaining the equipment and software to
provide this valuable source of information to us
individuals. Your effort is appreciated by many more people
than you realize.
Ross H
Thanks for a great site. Although the project is complete
and flying I still get a wealth of information from all
the messages.
Marcus C
Only learned about you six months ago...my RV-7A is just
finished, but the list has been helpful. Wish I had
discovered you sooner.
Jack B
This is an invaluable communications media for us
common minded folks to exchange technical and other
information.
George H
..great service that you provide.
David W
..still appreciate your list.
Alain L
[The] Lists are an invaluable resource. I know that it has
helped me enormously in my project.
William B
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | [Please Read] - Last Official Day of List Fund Raiser! |
Dear Listers,
Its November 30th and that means at least two things. For better or worse, its
my 46th birthday! But it also means that its that last official day of the
Matronics Email List Fund Raiser! If you been jones'n over one of the really
nice gifts that are available this year with a qualifying Contribution, then now
is the time to jump on one!!
If you've been meaning to make a Contribution this month but have been putting
it off for some reason, NOW is the time!
I will be posting the List of Contributors in a few days, so you'll probably want
to be known as a person that supported the Lists!
I want to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution so far this
year in support of our Lists. It is your generosity that keeps this operation
a float and I don't ever forget it. Hopefully everyone feels the same.
The List Contribution Web Site is fast and easy. Please support our habit by making
your Contribution right now:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you to all in advance!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | 2009 List of Contributors |
Dear Listers,
The 2009 Matronics Email List and Forum Fund Raiser officially ended a couple of
weeks ago and its time that I publish this year's List of Contributors. Its
the people on this list that directly make the Email Lists and Forums possible.
Their generous
contributions keep the servers and Internet connection up and running.
You can still show your support this year and pick up a great gift at the same
time. The Contribution Web Site is fast, easy, and secure:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
I also want to thank Bob, Jon, Andy, and John for their generous support through
the supply of great gifts this year!! These guys have some great products and
I encourage you to visit their respective web sites:
Bob Nucklolls - AeroElectric - www.aeroelectric.com
Jon Croke - HomebuiltHELP - www.homebuilthelp.com
Andy Gold - The Builder's Bookstore - www.buildersbooks.com
John Caldwell - HowToCrimp - www.howtocrimp.com
And finally, I'm proud to present The 2009 Fund Raiser List of Contributors:
http://www.matronics.com/loc/2009.html
Thanks again to everyone that made a Contribution this year!!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator
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| From: | "babula" <babulakila(at)live.com> |
I got a personal injury settlement, but rather then paying the medical bills with
it (since it was so low) can i keep the money and file bankruptcy on the medical
bills, since i already have to file anyway? Is this legal? Im in ohio im
aloud to keep 20,000 of a personal injury lawsuit i got just under 20,000. My
question is can my lawyer take his 30% and give me my part and rather then pay
the medical bills can I file bankruptcy on them along with everything else im
already going to file on.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=292041#292041
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| Subject: | Re: CZAW is bankrupt |
| From: | "stock-man" <johnydave(at)live.com> |
Thanks for the information
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Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=309617#309617
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| Subject: | Re: CZAW is bankrupt |
| From: | "voltline" <vincentcloney(at)yahoo.com> |
Thanks for your post it is very informative. Is Chip Erwin is still contactable?
Can he explains to the public why the company got bankrupt?
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=313773#313773
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| Subject: | Re: Official Czech-List Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) |
| From: | "teresap989" <teresap989(at)yahoo.com> |
Bob_anderson wrote:
> Hi Bob, Thanks for your message.Chip Erwin nearly convinced me to buy 9 % of CZAWfor $800 000.He convinced (by deceiving an old friend )Slavia Capital to put in $2.4 million.The idea is that it would be 9% for me 40% for SC he would retain control and get $3.4 million but had to be content with$2.4million.My accountant smelt a rat right away. People are wondering where the money has gone ! I knew he was a very tricky dicky but never thought he would steal my OC3989from under my own eyes. The Police in Czeck Rep. unfortunately could not prevent the theft.Until it happens there is no crime.Sounds crazy but it is like that. The worst thing is that the plane was for a client/friend who had been waiting 2 years .He is very upset and I am even more because the plane wasfully paid(he hates to deliver this type of plane--does not help his cashflow !!). He forced me to sign a new agreement which I did to salvage something as I know CZAW will be history soon.The Police advised me to do it. I am sending this info to a few friends and colleagues and you may do the same.Of course he will put it around I am also part of a big conspiracy. Regards Leonardo SayagoAeromarine Lda Eng. Leonardo SayagoAeromarine, Lda.Monte do LagoMontargil - PortugalMobile: 00351917505520www.aeromarine.eu
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | PLEASE READ - List Fund Raiser Kickoff! |
Dear Listers,
Each November I hold a PBS-like fund raiser to support the continued operation
and upgrade of the List services at Matronics. It's solely through the Contributions
of List members that these Matronics Lists are possible. There is NO
advertising to support the Lists. You might have noticed the conspicuous lack
of flashing banners and annoying pop-ups on the Matronics Email List email messages
and web site pages including:
* Matronics List Forums http://forums.matronics.com
* Matronics List List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com
* Matronics List Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search
* Matronics List Browser http://www.matronics.com/listbrowse
You don't find advertising on any of these pages because I believe in a List experience
that is completely about the sport we all enjoy - namely Airplanes and
not about annoying advertisements.
During the month of November I will be sending out List messages every couple of
days reminding everyone that the Fund Raiser is underway. I ask for your patience
and understanding during the Fund Raiser and throughout these regular messages.
The Fund Raiser is only financial support mechanism I have to pay all
of the bills associated with running these Lists. Your personal Contribution
counts!
Once again, this year I've got a terrific line up of free gifts to go along with
the various Contribution levels. Most all of these gifts have been provided
by some of the vary members and vendors that you'll find on Matronics Lists and
have been either donated or provided at substantially discounted rates.
This year, these generous people include:
* Bob Nuckolls of the AeroElectric Connection http://www.aeroelectric.com
* Andy Gold of the Builder's Bookstore http://www.buildersbooks.com
* Jon Croke of HomebuiltHELP http://www.homebuilthelp.com
These are extremely generous guys and I encourage you to visit their respective
web sites. Each one offers a unique and very useful aviation-related product
line. I would like publicly to thank Bob, Andy, and Jon for their generous support
of the Lists again this year!!
You can make your List Contribution using any one of three secure methods including
using a credit card, PayPal, or by personal check. All three methods afford
you the opportunity to select one of this year's free gifts with a qualifying
Contribution amount!!
To make your Contribution, please visit the secure site below:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
I would like to thank everyone in advance for their generous financial AND moral
support over the years!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
RV-8 Builder and Flyer
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | November List Fund Raiser |
There is an automatic "squelch button" of sorts for the Fund Raiser messages.
Here's how it works... As soon as a List member makes a Contribution through
the Matronics Fund Raiser web site, they will instantly cease to receive these
Fund Raiser messages for the rest of the month! Its just that simple.
I really do appreciate each and every one of your individual Contributions to support
the Lists. It is your support that enables me to upgrade the hardware
and software that are required to run a List Site such as this one. It also goes
to pay for the commercial-grade Internet connection and to pay the huge electric
bill to keep the computer gear running and the air conditioner powered
on. I run all of the Matronics Email List and Forums sites here locally which
allows me to control and monitor every aspect of the system for the utmost in
reliably and performance.
Your personal Contribution matters because, when combined with other Listers such
as yourself, it pays the bills to keep this site up and running. I accept
exactly ZERO advertising dollars for the Matronics Lists sites. I can't stand
the pop-up ads and all other commercials that are so prevalent on the Internet
these days and I particularly don't want to have it on my Email List sites.
If you appreciate the ad-free, grass-roots, down-home feel of the Matronics Email
Lists, please make a Contribution to keep it that way!!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
[Note that there are certain circumstances where you might still see a Contribution
related message. For example, if someone replies to one of the messages,
when using the List Browse feature, or when accessing List message via the Forum.
The system keys on the given email address and since most of these are anonymous
public access methods, there is no simple way to filter them.]
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
Dear Listers,
A quick reminder that November is the annual List Fund Raiser. The Matronics Lists
are 100% member supported and all of the operational costs are provided for
my your Contributions during this time of the year.
Your personal Contribution makes a big difference and keeps all of the Matronics
Email Lists and Forums completely ad-free.
Please make your Contribution today to keep these services up and running!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you in advance!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Please Make A Contribution To Support Your Lists |
Dear Listers,
There is no advertising income to support the Matronics Email Lists and Forums.
The operation is supported 100% by your personal Contributions during the November
Fund Raiser.
Please make your Contribution today to support the continued operation and upgrade
of these services. You can pick up a really nice gift for making your Contribution
too!
You may use a Credit Card or Paypal at the Matronics Contribution Site here:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or, you can send a personal check to the following address:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore, CA 94550
Thank you in advance for your generous support!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Coming Soon - The List of Contributors - Please Make A Contribution |
Today!
Each year at the end of the List Fund Raiser, I post a message acknowledging everyone
that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its my way
of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation
for the Lists.
Please take a moment and assure that your name is on that List of Contributors
(LOC)! As a number of members have pointed out over the years, the List seems
at least as valuable a building / entertainment tool as your typical magazine
subscription!
Assure that your name is on this year's LOC! Show others that you appreciate the
Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your
Credit card or Paypal on the Secure Web Site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus
far in this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps
these Lists going and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about
how the Lists have helped you!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Please Support The Lists... |
Dear Listers,
Just a reminder that November is the Matronics Email List Fund Raiser month. There
are some very nice incentive gifts to choose from as well!
Please make your Contribution today at:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Please Make A Contribution... |
Dear Listers,
A quick reminder that November is the annual List Fund Raiser. The Matronics Lists
are 100% member supported and all of the operational costs are provided for
my your Contributions during this time of the year.
Your personal Contribution makes a big difference and keeps all of the Matronics
Email Lists and Forums completely ad-free.
Please make your Contribution today to keep these services up and running!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you in advance!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | List Fund Raiser & Some Very Nice Comments... |
Dear Listers,
I've been getting some really nice comments from Listers along with their List
Support Contributions. I've shared some of them below. Please read them over
and see what your fellow Listers think of the Lists and Forums.
Please make a Contribution today to support the continued upgrade and operation
of these services.
There are lots of sweet gifts available, so browse the extensive selection and
pickup a nice item along with your qualifying Contribution.
Contribution Web Site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or drop a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
Thank you in advance for your generous support! It is very much appreciated!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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You are providing a great service. Thanks so very much.
David L
Keep up the good work! A great website - wish I'd found it earlier!
Bob S
Thanks for providing a site for information.
Jim S
Thanks again for providing a great service to our community!
Alex M
Thanks and keep up the good work!
Robert B.
Great forum!
David S
Thanks for providing the Kolb List for the last 12 years.
John H
Long time lurker, it's a great resource...many thanks.
Ian C
Your work and effort are greatly appreciated.
Nicolas L
Thank you very much for keeping the list going!
Svein J
Thank you for your support to the community.
Valin T
I am a long time subscriber and a slow builder because of
work and two moves, but still enjoy the process and your
list.
CL M
Thanks for providing this service. It can't be beat!
Thomas W
I'm no longer a builder or flier but I like to keep in touch with
the List - which is the best organised list I've seen on the Internet.
Gerry C
Matt, you are doing a GREAT service to the community of KOLB
Builders and Flyers.
John B
I've been flying for almost two years and still find these Lists as a great
resource for information.....now I get to answer a question once-in-a-while too.
Ralph C
Thanks for this great service.
Dale E
I couldn't keep on building without the support I get from this List.
Thomas S
This is a great service to all of us.
Michael W
I am no longer actively building, but I really like to keep up with what's
going on, and I especially like to follow Bob Nuckolls - and your RV-8.
Terrence W
I really appreciate your work and consider the lists to be a great value.
Christopher R
Thanks Matt for a great resource!
Geoff T
Many thanks for providing this service. I love it.
William V
One of the best Internet Deals going...
Owen B
Thanks for the great site.
Danny S
A valuable resource.
George A
Thanks for running a great list.
Ted P
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | What's My Contribution Used For? |
Dear Listers,
Some have asked, "What's my Contribution used for?" and that's a good question.
Here are just a few examples of what your direct List support enables. It provides
for the very expensive, commercial-grade T1 Internet connection used on
the List insuring maximum performance and minimal contention when accessing List
services. It pays for the regular system hardware and software upgrades enabling
the highest performance possible for services such as the Archive Search
Engine, List Browser, and Forums. It pays for narly 20 years (yeah, I really
said *20* years) worth of online archive data available for instant random search
and access. And, it offsets the many hours spent writing, developing, and
maintaining the custom applications that power this List Service such as the List
Browse, Search Engine, Forums, and Wiki.
But most importantly, your List Contribution enables a forum where you and your
peers can communicate freely in an environment that is free from moderation,
censorship, advertising, commercialism, SPAM, and computer viruses. How many places
on the Internet can you make all those statements these days? It is YOUR
CONTRIBUTION that directly enables these many aspects of these valuable List
services. Please support it today with your List Contribution. Its one of the
best investments you can make in your Sport...
List Contribution Web Site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or drop a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
Thank you for your support!
Matt Dralle
Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Just A Few Days Left; Well Behind Last Year... |
Dear Listers,
There are just a few more days left of this year's List Fund Raiser. Response
has been good so far, but we're well behind last year at this point. If you've
been waiting until the last minute to make your Contribution, now might be good
time to show your support and maybe pick up a nice gift as well!
Please remember that there is no commercial advertising on these Lists and the
*only* means of keeping them running is through your Contributions during this
Fund Raiser. If it weren't for your individual Contributions, these Lists could
easily become economically infeasible and simply cease to exist.
You probably can't even take the family out to dinner for $20 these days, but your
individual Contribution of the same amount makes a huge difference in keeping
the List services alive.
Please make a Contribution today with a Credit Card or Paypal:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, drop a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Make Sure You're Listed! List of Contributors Published in |
December!
Dear Listers,
The List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner! In December I post a
list of everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists.
Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation
for the Lists.
Won't you take minute and assure that your name is on the upcoming LOC? Tell others
that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists
is fast and easy using your Visa, MasterCard, or Paypal account:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, drop a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
USA
I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus
far during this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that
keeps these Lists running and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment
about how the Lists have
helped you!
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Contributions Down By 17%... |
Dear Listers,
As of today, Contributions to the Matronics List Fund Raiser are lagging behind
last year at this time by roughly 17%. I have a Fund Raiser each year simply
to cover my operating costs for the Lists. I *do not* accept any advertising
income to support the Lists and rely solely on the Contributions of members to
keep the expenses paid.
I run all of my own servers and they are housed here locally, and the Internet
connection is a commercial-grade, T1 connection with public address space. I
also maintain a full backup system that does nightly backups of all List-related
data so that in the event of a server crash or worse, all of the Lists and
the many years of List archive data could be restored onto a new server in a matter
of hours.
All of this costs a fair amount of money, not to mention a significant amount of
my personal time. I have a Fund Raiser each year to cover these costs and I
ask that members that feel they receive a benefit from my investments make a
modest Contribution each year to support the continued operation and upgrade of
these services.
If you enjoy the Lists, please make a Contribution today. I also offer some incentive
gifts for larger Contribution levels. At the Contribution Web Wite, you
can use a credit card, Paypal, or personal check to show your support for the
continuation of these services:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, drop a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
USA
Thank you for your support!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Just A Few More Days To Make Your List Contribution... |
There is less than a week left in this year's List Fund Raiser and only a few short
days to grab one of the great Contribution Gifts available this year. Support
is still significantly lagging behind last year at this point but hopefully
it will pick up here towards the end. Please remember that it is solely the
Contributions of List members that keeps the Lists up and running as there
is no commercialism or advertising on the Matronics Lists and Forums.
The List Contribution web site is secure, fast, and easy and you can use a credit
card, Paypal, or a personal check:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, drop a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
USA
I want to thank everyone that has already made a generous contribution to support
the Lists!
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics EMail List and Forum Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | What Are You Thankful For...? |
Dear Listers,
Here in the United States, Thursday is our National day of Thanksgiving. Many
of us will be traveling to be with our families and friends to share in generous
feasts of plenty and giving thanks for the many blessings that have been bestowed
upon us.
Many Listers have expressed over the last couple of weeks how thankful they are
for the Email Lists and Forums here on the Matronics servers and for all of the
assistance and comradery they have experienced being a part of the Lists.
One of my favorite comments is when someone writes to me and says something like,
"Its the first thing I do in the morning while I'm having my morning coffee!".
That's a wonderful tribute to the purpose and function of these Lists.
Its always great to hear I'm not the only one that jumps out of bed each morning
to check my List email!!
Won't you take a minute today and show your appreciation for these Lists and for
their continued operation and upgrade?
The List Contribution Site is:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, drop a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
USA
Thank you in advance for your kind consideration,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | No "Black Friday" For List Fund Raiser... |
Dear Listers,
Curiously, even though the number of List subscriptions are significantly up this
year, support during this year's Fund Raiser is still substantially behind
last year. There are only a couple more days left in November and the end of
the Fund Raiser is quickly approaching.
I have always preferred a non-commercial List experience as many, many members
have also expressed that they do as well. However, if the yearly fund raiser
cannot generate sufficient funds to keep the bills paid, other sources of income
might be required including some sort of advertising. Please don't let that
happen! Your personal Contribution of $20 or $30 goes a long ways to keeping
the operation a float.
Please make sure your name is on this year's List of Contributors published in
December.
The Contribution site is secure, quick, and easy:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, drop a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
USA
Thank you in advance for your support!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Just Three Days Left & Some Very Nice Comments... |
Dear Listers,
There are just three days left in this year's List Fund Raiser. Won't you take
a monment and make a quick Contribution today to support the continued upgrade
and operation of these Forum services.
I've received some more really nice comments from Listers along with their List
Support Contributions, and I've share a few below.
There are some sweet gifts available this year, so browse the selections and pickup
a nice item along with your qualifying Contribution.
Contribution Web Site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or drop a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
USA
Thank you in advance for your generous support! It is very much appreciated!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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Great resource, keep it coming...
Marten V.
Thanks for maintaining these essential lists!
Rumen D.
Great Service!
Douglas D.
Thanks for this great service!
Peter T.
Thanks for your enduring support of homebuilding communications!
Daniel M.
You do a great job and provide a valuable service.
Mark B.
It's really a great source I have used a lot.
Robert K.
Reading the RV-10 list is part of my morning routine...
Perry C.
Great job running these lists.
Edward T.
Thanks for doing a tough job.
Mic T.
Your List was such a great resource for me when I built in "98".
Ron V.
Its a very useful forum.
Dave F.
Really enjoy your list...
William D.
Great service,
Gerald T.
The list still is a valuable source of information and there
are many worthwhile postings.
Graham H.
The list has seen me through an RV-9A, RV-10, and now an RV-12.
Albert G.
Thanks for a great resource!
Barry H.
Thank you for maintaining this excellent site.
Bill W.
The Matronics Email list are an invaluable service.
William C.
I appreciate the RV-10 list.
Vijay P.
Thanks for a great list and all of the work you do.
Ian W.
Thanks for keeping up this very useful list.
George R.
The list is excellent and I find it very handy for any problems
I come up against during construction.
Greg W.
The lists are an important part of my day. I've met lots of people
and made lots of friends.
Dave S.
It's really a great source I haved used a lot.
Robert K.
I read the Pietenpol List everyday.
PF B.
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Make Sure You're Listed! |
Dear Listers,
The List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner with just two more days
in this year's Fund Raiser! Later in December I will post a list of everyone
that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists this year. Its
my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation
for the Lists.
Won't you take minute and assure that your name is on the upcoming LOC? Tell others
that you appreciate the Lists.
Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using your Visa, MasterCard,
or Paypal account:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus
far during this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that
keeps these Lists running and improving!
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | [Please Read] - Last Official Day of List Fund Raiser! |
Dear Listers,
Its November 30th and that means at least two things. For better or worse, its
my 47th birthday! But it also means that its that last official day of the
Matronics Email List Fund Raiser! If you been drooling over one of the really
nice gifts that are available this year with a qualifying Contribution, then
now is the time to jump on one!!
If you've been meaning to make a Contribution this month but have been putting
it off for some reason, NOW is the time!
I will be posting the List of Contributors in a few days, so you'll probably want
to be known as a person that supported the Lists!
I want to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution this year in
support of our Lists. It is your generosity that keeps this operation running
and I don't ever forget it. Hopefully everyone feels the same.
The List Contribution Web Site is fast and easy. Please support our habit by making
your Contribution right now:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
Thank you to all in advance!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | 2010 List of Contributors |
Dear Listers,
The 2010 Matronics Email List and Forum Fund Raiser officially ended a couple of
weeks ago and its time that I publish this year's List of Contributors. Its
the people on this list that directly make the Email Lists and Forums possible.
Their generous contributions keep the servers and Internet connection up and
running.
You can still show your support this year and pick up a great gift at the same
time. The Contribution Web Site is fast, easy, and secure:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
I also want to thank Bob, Jon, and Andy for their generous support through the
supply of great gifts this year!! These guys have some great products and I encourage
you to visit their respective web sites:
Bob Nucklolls - AeroElectric - www.aeroelectric.com
Jon Croke - HomebuiltHELP - www.homebuilthelp.com
Andy Gold - The Builder's Bookstore - www.buildersbooks.com
And finally, I'm proud to present The 2010 Fund Raiser List of Contributors:
http://www.matronics.com/loc/2010.html
Thanks again to everyone that made a Contribution this year!!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator
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| From: | "camelye" <camelyeamla(at)gmail.com> |
What are the steps to filing bankruptcy, and how much in the state of Wyoming does
it cost? My husband wants to file bankruptcy, this is his first time. If he
files bankruptcy does that affect my credit from prior to meeting him?
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life is a game
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=326210#326210
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | PLEASE READ - 2011 List Fund Raiser Kickoff - 21 Years Strong!! |
Dear Listers,
This year marks 21 years of the Email Lists and Forums at Matronics! I've been
running these forums for nearly half my life! I've made some great friends over
the years and had countless email and personal conversations with builders
about aircraft building and flying. What a great community of people! The advice,
support, and friendship has be invaluable over the years.
To support the continued operation and upgrade of the List servers, each November
I hold a PBS-like fund raiser. It is solely through the Contributions of List
members that these Matronics Lists are possible. There is NO advertising
to support the Lists. You might have noticed the conspicuous lack of flashing
banners and annoying pop-ups on the Matronics Email List email messages and web
site pages including:
* Matronics List Forums http://forums.matronics.com
* Matronics List Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search
* Matronics List Browser http://www.matronics.com/listbrowse
* Matronics List List Wiki http://wiki.matronics.com
You don't find advertising on any of these pages because I believe in a List experience
that is completely about the sport we all enjoy - airplanes!
During the month of November, I will be sending out List messages every couple
of days reminding everyone that the Fund Raiser is underway. I ask for your patience
and understanding during the Fund Raiser and throughout these regular
messages. The Fund Raiser is only financial support mechanism I have to pay all
of the bills associated with running these Lists. Your personal Contribution
counts!
Once again, this year we've got another terrific line up of free gifts to go along
with the various Contribution levels. Many of these gifts have been provided
by some of the vary members and vendors that you'll find on Matronics Lists
and they have been either donated or provided at substantially discounted rates.
This year, these generous people include:
* Bob Nuckolls of the AeroElectric Connection http://www.aeroelectric.com
* Andy Gold of the Builder's Bookstore http://www.buildersbooks.com
These are extremely generous guys and I encourage you to visit their respective
web sites. Each one offers a unique and very useful aviation-related product
line. I would like publicly to thank Bob, and Andy for their generous support
of the Lists again this year!!
You can make your List Contribution using any one of three secure methods including
using a credit card, PayPal, or by personal check. All three methods afford
you the opportunity to select one of this year's free gifts with a qualifying
Contribution amount!!
To make your Contribution, please visit the secure site below:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
I would like to thank everyone in advance for their generous financial AND moral
support over the years!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
RV-8 Builder (and Rebuilder) and Flyer
RV-6 Rebuilder and Flyer
RV-4 Builder
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Please Support The Lists... |
Dear Listers,
Just a reminder that November is the Matronics Email List Fund Raiser month. There
are some very nice incentive gifts to choose from as well!
Please make your Contribution today at:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Fund Raiser List of Contributors - Please Make A Contribution |
Today!
Each year at the end of the List Fund Raiser, I post a message acknowledging everyone
that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its sort of
my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation
for the Lists.
Won't you take a moment and assure that your name is on that List of Contributors
(LOC)? As a number of members have pointed out over the years, the List seems
at least - if not a whole lot more - valuable as a building/flying/recreating/entertainment
tool as your typical magazine subscription!
Please take minute and assure that your name is on this year's LOC! Show others
that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is
fast and easy using your Credit card or Paypal on the Secure Web Site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus
far in this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps
these Lists going and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about
how the Lists have helped you!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Make A List Contribution - It's Your Personal Squelch Button... |
There is an automatic "squelch button" of sorts for the Fund Raiser messages.
Here's how it works... As soon as a List member makes a Contribution through
the Matronics Fund Raiser web site, their email address is automatically added
to this year's Contributor List and they instantly cease to receive further Fund
Raiser messages for the rest of the month! Its just that simple! :-)
I really do appreciate each and every one of your individual Contributions to support
the Lists. It is your support that enables me to upgrade the hardware
and software that are required to run a List Site such as this one. It also goes
to pay for the commercial-grade Internet connection and to pay the huge electric
bill to keep the computer gear running and the air conditioner powered
on. I run all of the Matronics Email List and Forums sites here locally which
allows me to control and monitor every aspect of the system for the utmost in
reliably and performance. Your personal Contribution matters because, when combined
with other Listers such as yourself, it pays the bills to keep this site
up and running. I accept exactly ZERO advertising dollars for the Matronics
Lists sites. I can't stand the pop-up ads and all other commercials that are
so prevalent on the Internet these days and I particularly don't want to have
it on my Email List sites.
If you appreciate the ad-free, grass-roots, down-home feel of the Matronics Email
Lists, please make a Contribution to keep it that way!!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
[Note that there are certain circumstances where you might still see a Contribution
related message. For example, if someone replies to one of the messages,
when using the List Browse feature, or when accessing List message via the Forum.
The system keys on the given email address and since most of these are anonymous
public access methods, there is no simple way to filter them.]
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
Dear Listers,
Just a quick reminder that November is the annual List Fund Raiser. The Matronics
Lists are 100% member supported and all of the operational costs are provided
for my your Contributions during this time of the year.
Your personal Contribution makes a difference and keeps all of the Matronics Email
Lists and Forums completely ad-free.
Please make your Contribution today to keep these services up and running!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you in advance!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Please Make A Contribution To Support Your Lists |
Dear Listers,
There is no advertising income to support the Matronics Email Lists and Forums.
The operation is supported 100% by your personal Contributions during the November
Fund Raiser.
Please make your Contribution today to support the continued operation and upgrade
of these services. You can pick up a really nice gift for making your Contribution
too!
You may use a Credit Card or Paypal at the Matronics Contribution Site here:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or, you can send a personal check to the following address:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore, CA 94550
Thank you in advance for your generous support!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Make Sure You're Listed! List of Contributors Published in |
December!
Dear Listers,
The List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner! In December I post a
list of everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists.
Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation
for the Lists.
Won't you take minute and assure that your name is on the upcoming LOC? Tell others
that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists
is fast and easy using your Visa, MasterCard, or Paypal account:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, drop a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
USA
I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus
far during this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that
keeps these Lists running and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment
about how the Lists have helped you!
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | What's Your Contribution Used For? |
Dear Listers,
You might have wondered at some pointd, "What's my Contribution used for?" Here
are just a few examples of what your direct List support enables... It provides
for the expensive, commercial-grade Internet connection used on the List.
It pays for the regular system hardware and software upgrades enabling the highest
performance possible for List services such as the Archive Search Engine,
List Browser, and the Web Forums. It pays for over 21 years (yeah, I really
said *21* years) worth of on line archive data available for instant search
and access. And, it offsets the many hours spent writing, developing, and maintaining
the custom applications that power this List Service such as the List
Browse, Search Engine, Forums, and Wiki.
But most importantly, your List Contribution enables a forum where you and your
peers can communicate freely in an environment that is free from moderation,
censorship, advertising, commercialism, SPAM, and computer viruses.
It is YOUR CONTRIBUTION that directly enables these aspects of Matronics List services.
Please support it today with your List Contribution. Its one of the
best investments you can make in your Sport!
List Contribution Web Site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or, you can send a personal check to the following address:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore, CA 94550
Thank you for your support!
Matt Dralle
Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Please Support The Lists... |
Dear Listers,
Just a reminder that November is the Matronics Email List Fund Raiser month. There
are some very nice incentive gifts to choose from as well! Your Contributions
alone keep these services up and running.
Please make your Contribution today at:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | The Value of a Forum... |
If you look forward to checking your List email everyday (and a lot of you have
written to say that you do!), then you're probably getting at least $20 or $30
worth of Entertainment from the Lists each year. You'd pay twice that for a
subscription to some magazine or even a dinner out. Arn't the Lists worth at
least that much to you? Wouldn't it be great if you could pay that same amount
and get a well-managed media source free of advertising, SPAM, and viruses?
Come to think of it, you do...
Won't you take a minute to make your Contribution today and support YOUR Lists?
Please make a Contribution today at:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
Again, I want to say THANK YOU to everyone that has made a Contribution thus far
during this year's List Fund Raiser!! These Lists are made possible exclusively
through YOUR generosity!!
Thank you for your support!
Matt Dralle
Email List Admin.
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Make Sure You're Listed -- List of Contributors Published |
Dec 1!
Dear Listers,
The List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner! On December 1st I post
a list of everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists.
Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their
appreciation for the Lists.
As a number of people have pointed out in their Contribution comments, the Lists
are a whole lot more valuable than your typical magazine subscription!
Won't you take minute and assure that your name is on the upcoming LOC? Tell others
that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists
is fast and easy using your Visa, MasterCard, or Paypal account:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus
far during this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that
keeps these Lists running and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment
about how the Lists have helped you!
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Contributions Down By 20%... |
Dear Listers,
As of today, Contributions to the Matronics List Fund Raiser are lagging behind
last year at this time by roughly 20%. I have a Fund Raiser each year simply
to cover my operating costs for the Lists. I *do not* accept any advertising
income to support the Lists and rely solely on the Contributions of members to
keep the expenses paid.
I run all of my own servers and they are housed here locally, and the Internet
connection is a commercial-grade, T1 connection with public address space. I
also maintain a full backup system that does nightly backups of all List-related
data so that in the event of a server crash, all of the Lists and the many
years of List archive data could be restored onto a new server in a matter of
hours.
All of this costs a fair amount of money, not to mention a significant amount of
my personal time. I have a Fund Raiser each year to cover these costs and I
ask that members that feel they receive a benefit from my investments make a
modest Contribution each year to support the continued operation and upgrade of
these services.
If you enjoy the Lists, please make a Contribution today. I also offer some incentive
gifts for larger Contribution levels. At the Contribution Web Site, you
can use a credit card, Paypal, or personal check to show your support for the
continuation of these services:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, drop a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
Thank you for your support!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Just A Few More Days To Make Your List Contribution... |
There is less than a week left in this year's List Fund Raiser and only a few short
days to grab one of the great Contribution Gifts available this year. Support
is still significantly lagging behind last year at this point but hopefully
it will pick up here towards the end. Please remember that it is solely the
Contributions of List members that keeps the Lists up and running as there
is no commercialism or advertising on the Matronics Lists and Forums.
The List Contribution web site is secure, fast, and easy and you can use a credit
card, Paypal:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, drop a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
I want to thank everyone that has already made a generous contribution to support
the Lists!
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics EMail List and Forum Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Please Make A Contribution Today... |
Dear Listers,
A quick reminder that November is the annual List Fund Raiser and the List of Contributors
is quickly approching. The Matronics Lists are 100% member supported
and all of the operational costs are provided for by your Contributions during
this time of the year.
Your personal Contribution makes a big difference and keeps all of the Matronics
Email Lists and Forums completely ad-free.
Please make your Contribution today to keep these services up and running!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
Thank you in advance!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Just Two Days Left - Still Way Behind... |
Dear Listers,
There are just two more days left in this years List Fund Raiser. Over the last
few weeks I have received some really nice comments from members on what the
Lists have meant to them. I have included some of them below. Please read over
the comments and ponder on your own feelings about the Lists and the support
and camaraderie you have found here.
We are still way behind last year in terms of the number of contributions. I really
want to keep providing these services to the homebuilt community, but it
take resources. Since there's no advertising budget or deep pockets to keep
the operation a float, its solely your generosity during the Fund Raiser that
keeps things going. Please make a Contribution today.
If you've been putting off showing your support for the Lists, now is the time
to do it!
Make a contribution with a Credit Card or though PayPal at that Matronics Contribution
web site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, drop a check in the mail:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore, CA 94550
Thank you in advance for your support!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
==================== A Few List Member Comments =====================
I get a lot of useful information and satisfaction from belonging to
your groups. Somehow you foster a great sense of community without
the baggage that accompanies other lists.
Dave S.
We do appreciate you running the lists spam and advertising free.
Jeff P.
I am celebrating my first flight day and you and the lists deserve
a thanks since without it my build would have taken twice as long.
Chris L.
I enjoy the list. Have my morning coffee with it!
Buddy M.
Your lists are the best investment of my time and money, bar none,
when it comes to interfacing with my fellow amateur builders.
Owen B.
Keep it going!! Thanks for taking over.
Wallace J.
I enjoy the Pietenpol List a lot.
Malcolm Z.
Thanks for your great site! As a new CJ-6 owner, your web site is an
invaluable resource.
Ken B.
Great informational source.
Fred S.
Thanks for doing this!
Lance G.
Thank you for the service i do enjoy the many hours I use on line with
the banter/ serious technical items.
Noel G.
Thanks for the years of builder support.
Roy H.
Great forum!
Roger C.
Thank you VERY MUCH, Matt, for carrying on with this great service.
The "Europa" community really appreciates it. All the best, Svein - now
celebrating 10 years as a subscriber, I think!
Svein J.
Matt, I'm building a much nicer and safer airplane because of your efforts.
Robert D.
21 years for you 9 years for me on the Zenith lists. Could not imagine
building and flying without Matronics.
Brian U.
Thanks for ALL the hard work and time you put into maintaining these
forums. As an EAA Tech counselor I recommend them often.
Paul M.
This Pietenpol list is a huge part of the motivation that keeps me working
on my project. This has been a great place for meeting like minded folks
and getting help for the difficult parts.
Thomas S.
Thanks for the excellent service Matt.
Frank S.
Matt, I'm a Sonex building, but I have to say that the Piet group is without
a doubt the most interesting.
Ken M.
I can't tell you how much I appreciate the Piet List. This is one of my sanity
lifelines!
Daniel H.
Your site has provided us over the years with excellent connections to others
for advice. Good job!
Bob M.
Kolb List is my #1 source!
Henry V.
Matt, you do a great job with this site. I've been with it since the
beginning!
John M.
I am very grateful for all of your excellent work on the List.
Arthur L.
Thank you for the service you provide us all!
Nicholas C.
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | [Please Read] - Last Official Day of List Fund Raiser! |
Dear Listers,
Its November 30th and that means a couple of things. Its my birthday again, 48
of them, in fact! But it also means that its that last official day of the
Matronics Email List Fund Raiser! If you been jones'n over one of those really
nice incentive gifts now is the time to jump on one!!
If you've been meaning to make a Contribution this month but have been putting
it off for some reason, NOW is the time!
I will be posting the List of Contributors in a few days, so you'll probably want
to be known as a person that supported the Lists!
I want to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution this year in
support of our Lists. It is your generosity that keeps this operation running
and I don't ever forget it. Hopefully everyone feels the same.
Below are a few more of the nice comments from Listers I've received this year.
Please read them over and see if you don't agree.
The List Contribution Web Site is fast and easy. Please support our habit by making
your Contribution right now:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
Thank you to all in advance!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
==================== A Few More List Member Comments =====================
I never would have ended up with the great flying airplane I have without
the help of people on the Pietenpol list. Thanks for giving us the medium
to communicate our questions, tips and suggestions.
Matt P.
Thanks for the hard work and maintaining the site commercial free. Good
luck for the future and this site has been a source of great friendship.
Peter B.
It is a great resource.
Jim G.
Thanks so much for your continuing support of the homebuilt community.
Gerald A.
You are doing an outstanding job running the list's. Keep it going.
Bill V.
Thanks for keeping this valuable information source going. Best of all
the forums.
George A.
Another Great year on the RV-List!
Thomas E.
Still the best source of information (& opinion) for builders on a wide
range of issues.
Martin H.
Matt, thanks for hosting and maintaining the lists!
Rumen D.
It is a great resource.
Bryan R.
Thanks for your continuing interest in Van's RV8 kitplanes.
Peter C.
I'm no longer building or flying but like to keep in touch with the current
generation of builders. Best wishes to a great list system.
Gerry C.
A great list that is most useful for builders.
Graham H.
Thanks for this wonderful tool!
Ralph C.
Thanks for a great service to the experimental aviation community.
Douglas D.
Great topics and loads of useful info keep the subject matter relevant.
George H.
Thanks for keeping this going.
Richard R.
Great facility and well managed.
Victor F.
Thanks for a great service.
John D.
Thank you for you time and efforts they have made Aviation a better
place for everyone.
Jim W.
I still enjoy getting the list in the morning.
Don M.
You provide a great resource.
David M.
You have probably saved a few necks over the years.
Robert F.
Thank you for being there.
Benjamin B.
You perform a great service.
Bruce M.
Thank you for providing this invaluable resource.
William D.
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Hardware Failure - Matronics Web Servers Currently Offline |
failure and is currently not available. Replacement hardware has been ordered
and should arrive on Tuesday 12/6/2011. All services should be restored
shortly there after.
During the outage, the Matronics Forums, Wiki, and other web-based List services
will NOT be available.
However, during the outage, all normal EMAIL based sevices WILL be available so
you may continue to post messages to the various lists without an issue.
I am so sorry for any inconvenience this web server outage has caused...
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Matronics Web Services Restored! |
Dear Listers,
web services have been fully restored including the Web Forums, List Browse,
Archive Search, Wiki, and AeroElectric web sites. It was quite an ordeal getting
the replacement boards for the server, but things went back together tonight
and are up and running nicely. The first company I ordered the boards from
originally called me a day later to say that, whoops, they really didn't have
them in stock after all... Fortunately, I was able to locate some through
a different source and had then over-nighted and they arrived today.
Thank you for your patience and consideration though the whole thing!
The List Contribution web site is also back on line for those wishing to make a
donation to the effort:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics List Administrator
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| Subject: | Re: Apple Iphone 3G S 32GB $280 Nokia N97 Mini$300 Blackberry |
| From: | "tron" <shellrudsworth(at)gmail.com> |
I have been using iphone 4s since 3 mnths now and still my phone is naked but after
dropping it thrice now i have been somewhat obsessive in overly protecting
my iphone from extreme damage. The phone's sensitive screen is a matter which
concerns me hence i am looking forward to buy a hard case for my phone. Yesterday
i decided to buy an otter box case off amazon but as the case seemed bulky
and expensive i decided to avoid it. I have used a commuter case on my nokia
phone previously and this time i am willing to buy a defendor series iphone
4s case however due to its unavailability i have been disappointed a lot as the
phone is recently launched. Do you know from where to buy such a case for my
phone as the phone's sensitivity makes me concerned abt it.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=360905#360905
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | 2011 List of Contributors |
Dear Listers,
The 2011 Matronics Email List and Forum Fund Raiser officially ended a couple of
weeks ago and its time that I publish this year's List of Contributors. Its
the people on this list that directly make the Email Lists and Forums possible.
Their generous contributions keep the servers and Internet connection up and
running!
You can still show your support this year and pick up a great gift at the same
time. The Contribution Web Site is fast, easy, and secure:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
I also want to thank Bob, Jon, and Andy for their generous support through the
supply of great gifts this year!! These guys have some great products and I encourage
you to visit their respective web sites:
Bob Nucklolls - AeroElectric - http://www.aeroelectric.com
Jon Croke - HomebuiltHELP - http://www.homebuilthelp.com
Andy Gold - The Builder's Bookstore - http://www.buildersbooks.com
And finally, I'm proud to present The 2011 Fund Raiser List of Contributors:
http://www.matronics.com/loc/2011.html
Thanks again to everyone that made a Contribution this year!!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator
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| From: | delawarebox(at)att.net |
Please delete this address ( delawarebox(at)att.net) from your contacts. For Ron,
please use skyjeep701(at)gmail.com and for Delaware Wood Products use delawarewood(at)gmail.com
Thank you,
Ron Waechter
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | PLEASE READ - Matronics Email List Fund Raiser During November! |
Dear Listers,
Each November I hold a PBS-like fund raiser to support the continued operation
and upgrade of the Email List and Fourm Services at Matronics. It's through solely
through the Contributions of List members that these Matronics Lists are
possible.
You have probably noticed that there are no banner ads or pop-up windows on any of the Matronics Lists or related web sites such as the Forums site http://forums.matronics.com , Wiki site http://wiki.matronics.com , or other related pages such as the List Search Engine http://www.matronics.com/search , List Browse http://www.matronics.com/listbrowse , etc. This is because I believe in a List experience that is completely about the sport we all enjoy - namely Airplanes and not about annoying advertisements.
During the month of November I will be sending out List messages every couple of
days reminding everyone that the Fund Raiser is underway. I ask for your patience
and understanding during the Fund Raiser and throughout these regular messages.
The Fund Raiser is only financial support mechanism I have to pay all
of the bills associated with running these lists. Your personal Contribution
counts!
Once again, this year I've got a terrific line up of free gifts to go along with
the various Contribution levels. Most all of these gifts have been provided
by some of the vary members and vendors that you'll find on Matronics Lists and
have been either donated or provided at substantially discounted rates.
This year, these generous people include:
Bob Nuckolls of the AeroElectric Connection http://www.aeroelectric.com
Andy Gold of the Builder's Bookstore http://www.buildersbooks.com
Jon Croke of HomebuiltHELP http://www.homebuilthelp.com
These are very generous guys and I encourage you to visit their respective web
sites. Each one offers a unique and very useful aviation-related product line.
I would like publicly to thank Bob, Andy, and Jon for their generous support
of the Lists again this year!!
Please make your List Contribution using any one of three secure methods including
using a credit card, PayPal, or by personal check. All three methods afford
you the opportunity to select one of this year's free gifts with a qualifying
Contribution amount!!
To make your Contribution, please visit the secure site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
I would like to thank everyone in advance for their generous financial AND moral
support over the years!
Thank you for your support!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
RV-4/RV-6/RV-8 Builder/Rebuilder/Pilot
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Please Make A Contribution To Support Your Lists |
Dear Listers,
There is no advertising income to support the Matronics Email Lists and Forums.
The operation is supported 100% by your personal Contributions during the November
Fund
Raiser.
Please make your Contribution today to support the continued operation and upgrade
of these services. You can pick up a really nice gift for making your Contribution
too!
You may use a Credit Card or Paypal at the Matronics Contribution Site here:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or, you can send a personal check to the following address:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore, CA 94550
Thank you in advance for your generous support!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Coming Soon - The List of Contributors - Please Make A Contribution |
Today!
Each year at the end of the List Fund Raiser, I post a message acknowledging everyone
that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists. Its my way
of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation
for the Lists.
Please take a moment and assure that your name is on that List of Contributors
(LOC)! As a number of members have pointed out over the years, the List seems
at least as valuable a building / entertainment tool as your typical magazine
subscription!
Make sure that your name is on this year's LOC! Show others that you appreciate
the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists is fast and easy using
your Credit card or Paypal on the Secure Web Site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus
far in this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that keeps
these Lists going and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment about
how the Lists have helped you!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | A Message From AeroElectric's Bob Nuckolls... |
Dear Listers,
The well known Bob Nuckolls of the AeroElectric posted a great message Monday on
the AeroElectric-List regarding the Matronics Lists and the importance of supporting
the operation during the Fund Raiser. Please take a minute to read Bob's
commentary below, reposted to the other Matronics Lists with his permission...
Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2012 08:58:41 -0600
From: "Robert L. Nuckolls, III" <nuckolls.bob(at)aeroelectric.com>
Subject: AeroElectric-List: Re: Please Make A Contribution Today!
At 02:14 AM 11/5/2012, Matt Dralle wrote:
>
> Each year at the end of the List Fund Raiser, I post a message
> acknowledging everyone that so generously made a Contribution to
> support the Lists. Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that
> took a minute to show their appreciation for the Lists.
>
I will add my voice to this suggestion. It's
easy to enjoy the benefits of what's available to us
off-the-shelves at the corner mega-marts. It's
seldom that we give pause to learn and understand the
processes and tools that made it possible to reach out
and select from dozens of options.
This, and all civil societies, runs on talent, energy
and mobility. Mobility exploited by thousands of hands,
machines and transportation that figure into the
'infrastructure' that puts the boxes of Wheaties and
Pop Tarts on the shelves.
See "I pencil" http://tinyurl.com/36xkhq
Any break in that chain of time, talent and resources
at least interrupts if not totally halts flow of
that benefit. Matt's room full of byte-thrashers is
like the natural gas pumping station a few miles from
my house. If those pumps stop, who ever is expecting
the furnace to come on at the other end of the pipe
is at risk for reduced service and/or higher costs
for that service.
Matt's yearly endeavor to keep his pumps running is
a trivial burden on the members of the Lists
but of incalculable value to those who participate
on them. No donation is too small.
We go to a fly-in a willingly chuck a few bucks into
the coffee can at the drinks and donuts table, let's
chuck a few bucks into Matt's coffee can too. 50,000
pounds of value doesn't get to the shelves on time
if one 18-wheeler runs out of gas. The T-bytes of
data flow we all enjoy don't get from your keyboard
to the screens of others unless Matt pays the light
bill and strokes the machines to keep them happy.
No, $5 won't get you a free copy of the 'Connection
or a fuel sampler but it will go toward the assurance
that logging onto your favorite List will open
doors that you would be sorely missed should you find
that hitting the return key doesn't produce the
expected response.
$5 from every List customer on Matt's system will
go a very long way to keeping the byte-pumps running.
$More$ will go a long way to upgrading the size
and quality of the machines as the old ones get
long in the tooth. No matter what size of donation
you choose . . . please do it now . . .
Bob . . .
Please make your Contribution today to support the continued operation and upgrade
of these services. You can pick up a really nice gift for making your Contribution
too!
You may use a Credit Card or Paypal at the Matronics Contribution Site here:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or, you can send a personal check to the following address:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore, CA 94550
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Make A List Contribution - It's Your Personal Squelch Button... |
There is an automatic "squelch button" of sorts for the Fund Raiser messages.
Here's how it works... As soon as a List member makes a Contribution through
the Matronics Fund Raiser web site, their email address is automatically added
to this year's Contributor List and they instantly cease to receive further Fund
Raiser messages for the rest of the month! Its just that simple! :-)
I really do appreciate each and every one of your individual Contributions to support
the Lists. It is your support that enables me to upgrade the hardware
and software that are required to run a List Site such as this one. It also goes
to pay for the commercial-grade Internet connection and to pay the huge electric
bill to keep the computer gear running and the air conditioner powered
on. I run all of the Matronics Email List and Forums sites here locally which
allows me to control and monitor every aspect of the system for the utmost in
reliably and performance. Your personal Contribution matters because, when combined
with other Listers such as yourself, it pays the bills to keep this site
up and running. I accept exactly ZERO advertising dollars for the Matronics
Lists sites. I can't stand the pop-up ads and all other commercials that are
so prevalent on the Internet these days and I particularly don't want to have
it on my Email List sites.
If you appreciate the ad-free, grass-roots, down-home feel of the Matronics Email
Lists, please make a Contribution to keep it that way!!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or, you can send a personal check to the following address:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore, CA 94550
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
[Note that there are certain circumstances where you might still see a Contribution
related message. For example, if someone replies to one of the messages,
when using the List Browse feature, or when accessing List message via the Forum.
The system keys on the given email address and since most of these are anonymous
public access methods, there is no simple way to filter them.]
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Please Support The Lists... |
Dear Listers,
Just a reminder that November is the Matronics Email List Fund Raiser month. There
are some very nice incentive gifts to choose from as well!
Please make your Contribution today at:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
Matt Dralle / Matronics
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | What's Your Contribution Used For? |
Dear Listers,
You might have wondered at some pointd, "What's my Contribution used for?" Here
are just a few examples of what your direct List support enables... It provides
for the expensive, commercial-grade Internet connection used on the List.
It pays for the regular system hardware and software upgrades enabling the highest
performance possible for List services such as the Archive Search Engine,
List Browser, and the Web Forums. It pays for the over 22 years of on-line
archive data always available for instant search and access. And, it offsets
the many hours spent writing, developing, and maintaining the custom applications
that power these List Service such as the List Browse, Search Engine, Forums,
and Wiki.
But most importantly, your List Contribution enables a forum where you and your
peers can communicate freely in an environment that is free from moderation,
censorship, advertising, commercialism, SPAM, and computer viruses.
It is YOUR CONTRIBUTION that directly enables all these aspects of Matronics List
services. Please support it today with your List Contribution. Its one of
the best investments you can make in your Sport!
List Contribution Web Site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
or, you can send a personal check to the following address:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore, CA 94550
Thank you for your support!
Matt Dralle
Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Make Sure You're Listed! List of Contributors Published in |
December!
Dear Listers,
The List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner! In December I post a
list of everyone that so generously made a Contribution to support the Lists.
Its my way of publicly thanking everyone that took a minute to show their appreciation
for the Lists.
Won't you take minute and assure that your name is on the upcoming LOC? Tell others
that you appreciate the Lists. Making a Contribution to support the Lists
is fast and easy using your Visa, MasterCard, or Paypal account:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a Contribution thus
far during this year's List Fund Raiser! Remember that its YOUR support that
keeps these Lists running and improving! Don't forget to include a little comment
about how the Lists have helped you!
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Who is Matt Dralle & What Are The Lists? |
Dear Listers,
Who is Matt Dralle and what exactly are these Lists anyway? I've been working
in the Information Technology industry for over 28 years, primarily in computer
networking design and implementation and more recently as an embedded software
engineer. I have also done a fair amount of work in web design and development.
I started the Matronics Email Lists way back in 1990 shortly after I started building
my RV-4 with about 30 fellow RV builders from around the world. Since
that time, I have added many other types of aircraft related Lists to the line
up and numerous other List related services such as the Forums, Wiki, Archives
and Search Engine just to name a few.
For flexibility and reliability, I have chosen to run all of my own servers locally.
Other List-related systems include a 1 Gigabit, fully switched network
infrastructure, a commercial-grade Netscreen firewall, a Barracuda spam filter,
a local T1 Internet router, and a bonded dual T1 commercial-grade business Internet
connection with full static addressing.
The computer servers include a dual quad-core Linux server for List web services
with 24GB of memory, a quad -core Linux system dedicated to the email processing
List functions, and another standalone Linux system serving as a remote storage
disk farm for the archives, databases, and for an on-line hard drive-based
backup system with multi-terra byts of online storage. This entire system
is protected by three large, commercial-grade uninterrupted power supply systems
(UPS) that assure the Lists are available even during a local power outage!
Speaking of power, imagine how much electricity it takes to run all of these
systems. On the average, the elctric bill is in the neighborhood of $7000-$8000/yr
and the newly upgraded dual-T1 Internet connection runs roughly $6000/yr.
A while back, I upgraded all of the computer racking infrastructure including new
power feeds and dedicated air conditioning for the room that serves as the
Computer Center for the Matronics Email Lists and followed that upgrade up with
a second rack upgrade to house the MONSTER web system that didn't quite fit
into the first rack! Here's a composite photo of the List Computer Center prior
to the addition of the second rack:
http://www.matronics.com/MattDralle-ListComputerCenter.jpg
As you can see, I take running these Lists very seriously and I am dedicated to
providing an always-on, 24x7x365 experience for each and every Lister.
But building and running this system isn't cheap. As I've mentioned many times
before, I don't use commercial advertisments to support any of these systems.
It is supported 100% through List member Contributions! That means you...
and you... and YOU!
To that end, I hold a List Fund Raiser each November and ask that members make
a Contribution to support the continued operation and upgrade of this ever-expanding
system. Its solely YOUR Contributions that keeps it running!
Please make a Contribution today to support these Lists!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, by dropping a personal check in the mail to:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
Dear Listers,
A quick reminder that November is the annual Matronics List Fund Raiser. The Lists
are 100% member supported and all of the operational costs are covered solely
through your Contributions during this time of the year.
*Your* personal Contribution makes a difference and keeps all of the Matronics
Email Lists and Forums completely ad-free.
Please make your Contribution today to keep these services up and running for another
great year!
Use a credit card or your PayPal account here:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or, by sending a personal check to:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
Thank you in advance!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List and Forum Administrator
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Some Nice Comments... |
Dear Listers,
I've been getting some very nice comments from Listers along with their List Support
Contributions. I've shared a number of them below. Please read them over
and see what your fellow Listers think of the Lists and Forums.
Please make a Contribution today to support the continued upgrade and operation
of these services.
There are lots of sweet gifts available this year, so please browse the nice selection
and pickup something fun with your qualifying Contribution!
You may use a credit card or your PayPal account here:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Or feel free to send a personal check to:
Matronics / Matt Dralle
581 Jeannie Way
Livermore CA 94550
Thank you in advance for your generous support! It is very much appreciated!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
-------------------- What Listers Are Saying About The Lists --------------------
I have been flying my Pietenpol for a month now and am
enjoying the fruits of ten hard years of work. I seriously
doubt it would ever have been finished but for the help,
encouragement and friendships I've received and made through
the Pietenpol list.
Douwe B
Outstanding service to the flying community.
George A
Matt, I look forward to support each others projects,
Glenn B
Great list!!! Thanks for all your efforts!
Roger C
Thank you for keeping up the lists. Without it i would never
have completed my aircraft.
Stan S
Keep up the good work my friend. I don't think I could ever
finish my Pietenpol Air Camper without the help I get from
this List.
Tom S
Thank you for keeping these list alive.
Lee V
The List is invaluable!!
Svein J
Thanks for continuing to provide the list service!
Earl S
You have a really GREAT service. Thankyou so much I've been on
for nearly 30 years and I still check-in every morning.
John B
I rely fully on the lists which govern my every decision. The
flexibility provides the security I seek.
Fergus K
My RV 7 Finally flies... 7 years of Matronics.com certainly
helped.
Martin H
Great service here, thanks! I am just getting back to a
project I dropped for a few years, great to see your site
and all the folks again!
James C
Thanks for the great site.
Robert U
The Rotax list is good and the AeroElectric list outstanding!
Jay H
Thank you for a great resource!
Jack T
Thanks for your great record of outstanding service to the
homebuilding community!
Larry W
This service is invaluable.
Michael W
You're doing a great job Matt.
Robert D
Thanks for all your work, its a great asset to all.
John F
Thank you for your time & effort Matt!
Ted W
Matt, been a follower since 2005 on the -10 list, now
starting an -8. Keep up the great work!
John M
Still my favorite place to hang out.
William W
I'm not a Piet builder, but this is the most informative and
congenial list I've ever run across. Please forgive my
lurking-I learn a LOT here!
Ken M
Many thanks for keeping this alive, keep pushing!
Adrian C
Thanks! Please keep r going!
Rich Z
Many thanks for your hard work.
Robert C
Thanks for the Lists! I probably need to subscribe to a few
more...
John M
Been a quick 14 years. Think I subscribed to the Kolb
List in 1998, when I got my first computer. Thanks for
keeping everything running smoothly for all these years.
John H
Great resource - thank you.
David M
I don't post very much, but get the postings, a lot of really
practical info.
John N
Great job Matt, thanks for all you do.
Roger M
Thanks for ANOTHER great year, Matt! True grassroots
experimental aviation has been pushed aside in many ways.
But the List represents the evolution of this great
tradition of home-building. One man, the plans, the tools,
and the List - that's all you need to build the dream!
Robert B
This message board is a real help to my project and creating
friendships.
John S
Many thanks for your continuing excellent work.
Mike G
Thank you for your work Matt. Your lists have helped me a
great deal during the construction of my plane.
Hal B
Nice List
Van E
These lists are priceless for builders.
Ronald C
Thanks for keeping me in touch with the Pulsar community.
Otto S
Thanks for keeping up this great warbird sight!!
Yak Ron
Thanks for providing all the lists for so many years.
H H
Thanks for all that you do. Your dedication is much appreciated!
Warren H
Best service on the internet!
Owen B
I have learned so much from the "list".
Nick C
Great Service You Are Providing!
Giffen M
Thanks so much for maintaining these great resources.
Dave S
I no longer fly due to age and health problems, but I still
enjoy the reading from other pilots.
Dallas S
This is a wonderful site.
Robert B
Useful service over the last year - thanks.
Om T
-------------------- What Listers Are Saying About The Lists --------------------
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | "Black Friday" For List Fund Raiser...? |
Dear Listers,
The number of List subscriptions are up by a fair amount this year, but support
during this year's Fund Raiser is substantially behind last year, and there's
only about a week left until the end of the Fund Raiser. I have always preferred
a non-commercial List experience as many, many members have also expressed
that they do as well. However, if the yearly fund raiser cannot generate sufficient
funds to keep the bills paid, other sources of income might be required
including some sort of advertising. Please don't let that happen! Your personal
Contribution of $20 or $30 goes a long ways to keeping this operation a
float.
Please make sure your name is on this year's List of Contributors!
The List Contribution site is secure, quick, and easy:
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