Kolb-Archive.digest.vol-lt
July 08, 2011 - August 02, 2011
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| From: | "Richard Pike" <richard(at)bcchapel.org> |
A cold seizure is what happens when the engine is comparatively cold, power is
added rapidly, and the aluminum piston expands faster than the steel cylinder
liner, reducing clearance.
Here is Mike Stratman's analysis:
http://www.800-airwolf.com/pdffiles/ARTICLES/part27.pdf
The water cooled Rotax 532/582 is susceptible to a cold seizure if the water is
not hot throughout the system. A long glide at idle can get the water cool, so
now the thermostat closes, now the water in the radiator gets really cool because
the water is hardly circulating, and then you (DOH) go to climb power. The
engine starts suddenly generating serious heat so the thermostat opens and
dumps the cold water from the radiator into an engine running at full power. Squeeeeak......
That is why Rotax came up with the complicated plumbing situation
on the 582 Blue Head version, to try and keep the water that has gotten cool
out of the engine until it gets warmed up. Also known as trying to make the
engine fool proof, but we keep coming up with ways to be foolish and not give
the engine what it wants.
Scenario: several years ago Vince & I were doing efficiency tests on a Ivo prop
which involved climbing to altitude, pulling the power back to idle, gliding
down at best glide to a predetermined altitude, and then going back to full power
and climbing back to a predetermined altitude, all while carefully timing
the climbs and glides.
After gliding down a couple thousand feet, the water temperature gauge always showed
I had a cold engine, so I would ease the throttle back in and just arrest
the descent at partial power - 4800 rpm or so - until I got it hot enough to
go to full power and start another climb cycle.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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| From: | robert bean <slyck(at)frontiernet.net> |
Thanks for the thought about the steel liner. Although the suzuki is a different
animal it shares some similarities:
all aluminum, including head, with steel liners, water cooled.
I have to wait a good period of time before takeoff because, even with a thermostat,
an aluminum engine with no load
sheds a lot of heat. At takeoff and cruise rpms it generates plenty.
Another factor, if you are using the belt redrive, is that the engine grows and
at temp the slack comes out of the belt.
Not good to load it running loose.
Another reason for a thorough warmup is that, even with a water heated manifold
muff, the little beast is prone to
carb icing. I tend to stay on the ground in weather conducive to ice problems.
Even after landing at a function like a fly in, I have to wait longer than a standard
airplane to get to a good engine temp.
It appears that I now have my fuel contamination issue problems taken care of and
it is running perfectly.
Last year was a bad one but a learning experience. BTW, those new heavy wall tanks
look to be doing ok.
BB
MkIII, suzuki
2 blade, 70" warp drive
On 8, Jul 2011, at 12:03 PM, Richard Pike wrote:
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| From: | "Pat Ladd" <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com> |
| Subject: | Re: mounting Video Camera's |
Rick,
I have just been looking at those interesting `tuft` tests of the
airflow around the Xtra.
The tufts seem to twist towards the vertical as the speed and RPM
increases but is it the speed or the prop sucking more air through that
causes the change?
Have you tried a similar exercise with the engine OFF.?. That would at
least establish if it is the natural airflow or the prop. You just might
be able to smooth the flow out with some very careful detail work around
the pod (Fit VG`s ????) but if it is the prop there doesn`t seem much
that can be done.
Cheers
Pat
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| Subject: | Re: Looking for info about route to Oshkosh |
| From: | "Jimmy Young" <jdy100(at)comcast.net> |
> Sadly in Minnesota liability issues prevents me from inviting you to stay & camp
at my 'private' strip.
Ok, I'll be the first.
Dennis,
Regarding your photo selection, are you aware Arty Trost is a female pilot? How
about a little respect?
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Jimmy Young
Missouri City, TX
Kolb FS II/HKS 700
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| From: | "Pat Ladd" <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Looking for info about route to Oshkosh |
Hi Dennis,
<>
Good grief. Things are not quite as bad as that in the UK yet. In fact
there is a push developing even at governmental level to stop this sort of
stupidity. Curtailing no win ,no fee operations and ambulance chasers. Our
main government culprit the Health and Safety Department head came out this
week and said that she was tired of organisations imposing all sorts of
regulations on health and safety grounds when the Department has nothing to
do with it. It is just councils and other bodies imposing unpopular rules
entirely on their own bat . Schools making kids playing `conkers` wear eye
shields, officials turning people off a grass mound at Wimbledon last week
because` the grass was wet and someone might slip. My local Council stopped
a shopkeeper displaying his goods on the sidewalk, which he has done for
about 40 years , in case someone walked into it and hurt themselves. You
couldn`t make it up.
Perhaps some sanity is returning but don`t hold your breath.
Cheers
Pat
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| From: | "Pat Ladd" <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Looking for info about route to Oshkosh |
"The first thig we have to do is kill all the lawyers>>
Didn`t one of Shakespeare's characters say that?
Even in his day they were a plague.
Pat
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| Subject: | Re: Looking for info about route to Oshkosh |
| From: | Dana Hague <d-m-hague(at)comcast.net> |
You should look at Minnesota's recreational liability statute... most likely it,
like most other states' status, protects you from liability as long as you don't
charge for the use of your land.
-Dana
Jimmy Young wrote:
> Sadly in Minnesota liability issues prevents me from inviting you to stay & camp
at my 'private' strip.
Ok, I'll be the first.
Dennis,
Regarding your photo selection, are you aware Arty Trost is a female pilot? How
about a little respect?
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Jimmy Young
Missouri City, TX
Kolb FS II/HKS 700
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| Subject: | Re: anybody in Louisiana |
| From: | "SS568" <david(at)PaulowniaTrees.com> |
Hi Travis,
I have also been sorta searching . I have not really decided on a single or 2
place Kolb. But in all likely hood it will be a Kolb.
Two places to look are Craigs list and
Barnstormers dot com
And hang around here , often folk will hawk their Kolbs and provide a link.
Introduce your self and kick a few tires.
David d.
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| Subject: | Re: anybody in Louisiana |
| From: | "tkben002" <tkben002(at)bellsouth.net> |
I understand that and have been searching barnstormers pretty regularly to see
what all comes up (most of which are nowhere close to me). I am looking for someone
with one that is close that is not for sale so I can see it in person,
sit in it and talk to the unbiased owner (not selling it to me) opinion/experiences
with their aircraft. Then and only then will I think I will be able to
make a good decision that the Kolb is the right aircraft for me.
Travis
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| Subject: | Re: mounting Video Camera's |
| From: | "Richard Pike" <richard(at)bcchapel.org> |
Just got done buying a Koday ZI8 camera on ebay, looking forward to taking some
movies of my own. Thanks for the tips.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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| Subject: | Re: Looking for info about route to Oshkosh |
| From: | "Dennis Thate" <retroman(at)frontier.com> |
There is no such thing as 'liability release' in Minnesota. If I give consent for
a guest pilot to land on my private strip....friend crashes and dies. The life
insurance company pays the benefactor and insurance company goes after me
to reclaim their losses. Even if friend has signed an 'liability release' agreement
not to sue. Which by the way is not legal in Minnesota.
Regarding photo; I have "an indelicate sense of humor". You'll have to toughen
up a bit. [Wink]
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Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents
the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern
Faith is believing what you know ain't so - Mark Twain
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| From: | "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Looking for info about route to Oshkosh |
Never mind the photo, I was wondering why if you did not intend to offer
any help to Arty, did you even bother to reply to her request for
friendly places to stop?
Larry
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----- Original Message -----
From: Dennis Thate
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 9:41 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Looking for info about route to Oshkosh
There is no such thing as 'liability release' in Minnesota. If I give
consent for a guest pilot to land on my private strip....friend crashes
and dies. The life insurance company pays the benefactor and insurance
company goes after me to reclaim their losses. Even if friend has signed
an 'liability release' agreement not to sue. Which by the way is not
legal in Minnesota.
Regarding photo; I have "an indelicate sense of humor". You'll have
to toughen up a bit. [Wink]
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Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist
invents the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern
Faith is believing what you know ain't so - Mark Twain
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| From: | DAquaNut(at)aol.com |
Rick and Jack,
I went to the hanger today and started the Firefly. I dialed the Ivo
in at 6250 rpms. I ran it for about 30 minutes. I made 2 takeoffs and
put her right back down on the runway. All seemed normal. Checked
compression. Both cylinders read 87 lbs. I pulled the exhaust off and looked
in the
ports. There appeared to be a few shiny streaks up and down on the
pistons, but I could not feel them with my finger. The rings were all loose when
pushed with a stick. Looking back to the day it quit , I had it tied down,
and running in a nose down attitude with less than a gallon of gas so it
could be it was starved for fuel. I am sure what to do at this point.
Ed Diebel { In Houston FF 62 )
dated 7/4/2011 1:17:31 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
aslsa.rng(at)gmail.com writes:
Take off the exhaust manifold at the port and examine the side of the
piston. If it seized that's where you'll find the damage. You're looking for
vertical streaks or scratches. If you find evidence one or both pistons
seized you can use Muriatic (concrete etch) acid on a rag to clean off the
aluminum on the cylinder walls. Be careful to only get it on the iron cylinder
liner. You'll need to replace both pistons, too.
Rick Girard
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| From: | "Pat Ladd" <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Looking for info about route to Oshkosh |
and insurance company goes after me to reclaim their losses>>
This is unreal, and fascinating. Surely for the insurers to proceed
against you they must prove that you are at fault. You of course have
`duty of care` and must have taken all `reasonable` steps to ensure
safety. but beyond that?? A smart lawyer will of course make a case
about what is `reasonable` Having a fire truck standing by if you have
20 planes a day may be `reasonable. If you have 2 planes a week it
probably is not.
If a visiting pilot rolls his plane into a ball through incorrect
handling how can you be at fault?
Bemused
Pat
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| From: | Dana Hague <d-m-hague(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Looking for info about route to Oshkosh |
Not a "liability release"... like every state in the US, Minnesota law
protects you from liability:
<http://www.americanwhitewater.org/resources/repository/Minnesota_Recreational_Use_Statute.htm>
-Dana
At 11:41 PM 7/8/2011, Dennis Thate wrote:
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>There is no such thing as 'liability release' in Minnesota. If I give
>consent for a guest pilot to land on my private strip....friend crashes
>and dies. The life insurance company pays the benefactor and insurance
>company goes after me to reclaim their losses. Even if friend has signed
>an 'liability release' agreement not to sue. Which by the way is not
>legal in Minnesota.
>
>Regarding photo; I have "an indelicate sense of humor". You'll have to
>toughen up a bit. [Wink]
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>Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist
>invents the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern
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>Faith is believing what you know ain't so - Mark Twain
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>Read this topic online here:
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>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=345521#345521
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Always keep clothes and weapons where you can find them in the dark.
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| From: | Dana Hague <d-m-hague(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Looking for info about route to Oshkosh |
Not a "liability release"... like every state in the US, Minnesota law
protects you from liability:
<http://www.americanwhitewater.org/resources/repository/Minnesota_Recreational_Use_Statute.htm>
-Dana
At 11:41 PM 7/8/2011, Dennis Thate wrote:
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>There is no such thing as 'liability release' in Minnesota. If I give
>consent for a guest pilot to land on my private strip....friend crashes
>and dies. The life insurance company pays the benefactor and insurance
>company goes after me to reclaim their losses. Even if friend has signed
>an 'liability release' agreement not to sue. Which by the way is not
>legal in Minnesota.
>
>Regarding photo; I have "an indelicate sense of humor". You'll have to
>toughen up a bit. [Wink]
>
>--------
>Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist
>invents the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern
>
>
>Faith is believing what you know ain't so - Mark Twain
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>
>Read this topic online here:
>
>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=345521#345521
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>
--
Always keep clothes and weapons where you can find them in the dark.
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| Subject: | Re: Looking for info about route to Oshkosh |
| From: | Thom Riddle <riddletr(at)gmail.com> |
Dana,
Thanks for bringing this to our attention. Hopefully, this will clear up som
e misunderstandings.
Of course, nothing prevents a lawyer from filing a suit but state statutes l
ike this provide an excellent basis for a defense. The best defense is pover
ty:-). No money bags, no motive for suit. I am thusly suit-proof!
Thom
(sent from iPhone 4)
On Jul 9, 2011, at 6:27 AM, Dana Hague wrote:
> Not a "liability release"... like every state in the US, Minnesota law pro
tects you from liability:
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> <http://www.americanwhitewater.org/resources/repository/Minnesota_Recreati
onal_Use_Statute.htm>
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> -Dana
>
> At 11:41 PM 7/8/2011, Dennis Thate wrote:
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>> There is no such thing as 'liability release' in Minnesota. If I give con
sent for a guest pilot to land on my private strip....friend crashes and die
s. The life insurance company pays the benefactor and insurance company goes
after me to reclaim their losses. Even if friend has signed an 'liability r
elease' agreement not to sue. Which by the way is not legal in Minnesota.
>>
>> Regarding photo; I have "an indelicate sense of humor". You'll have to t
oughen up a bit. [Wink]
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>> Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist in
vents the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern
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>> Faith is believing what you know ain't so - Mark Twain
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| Subject: | Re: mounting Video Camera's |
| From: | Richard Girard <aslsa.rng(at)gmail.com> |
Pat, This may be too simplistic a view, but I think it's a combination of
the air not being able to follow the sharp breaks and large angles between
the fore and aft panels of the fuselage pod and poor gap sealing of the
wings.
Rick
On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 12:55 PM, Pat Ladd wrote:
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> Rick,
> I have just been looking at those interesting `tuft` tests of the airflow
> around the Xtra.
> The tufts seem to twist towards the vertical as the speed and RPM increases
> but is it the speed or the prop sucking more air through that causes the
> change?
> Have you tried a similar exercise with the engine OFF.?. That would at
> least establish if it is the natural airflow or the prop. You just might be
> able to smooth the flow out with some very careful detail work around the
> pod (Fit VG`s ????) but if it is the prop there doesn`t seem much that can
> be done.
>
> Cheers
>
> Pat
> .
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Zulu Delta
Mk IIIC
Thanks, Homer GBYM
It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy.
- Groucho Marx
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| Subject: | Re: Looking for info about route to Oshkosh |
| From: | "Dennis Thate" <retroman(at)frontier.com> |
[quote="lcottrell"]Never mind the photo, I was wondering why if you did not intend
to offer any help to Arty, did you even bother to reply to her request for
friendly places to stop?
Larry
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includes my email address.
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Your Point is Pointless. Contribute to forum or lurk
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Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents
the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern
Faith is believing what you know ain't so - Mark Twain
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| Subject: | Re: Looking for info about route to Oshkosh |
| From: | "Dennis Thate" <retroman(at)frontier.com> |
My point is simply this, I spend tons of money and many hours of hard work building
a private strip that I would love to share with nice people like Arty and
her group en route to Oshkosh.
But due to our litigant nature of society I can't ............. It's like people
who want to impose their value system on others on this forum. .....I say live
and let live !
Don't preach ! Don't Sue !
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Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents
the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern
Faith is believing what you know ain't so - Mark Twain
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| From: | russ kinne <russkinne(at)mac.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Looking for info about route to Oshkosh |
Pat
Unfortunately in the US a signed release (called a 'Hold-Harmless' Release) isn't
worth a lot. Courts throw them out all the time. Insurance co's, and survivors,
will always go after the 'deepest pockets' they can find -- i.e, the richest
person/firm involved. Helluva note. Still a good idea to get a Release; indicates
at least good intentions.
My country is going down the tubes & IMHO too many irresponsible lawyers are a
main cause.
Remember when Thurmon Munson (sp?) killed himself in a jet he'd just bought? Cessna
had to pay some $20million -- and it wasn't the plane's fault!!
Don't get me started! I think we have so many lawyers they all conspire to keep
each other employed. And the courts support grossly unfair outcomes.
Bah.Got room for a disgruntled Yank in Britain?
Fair winds,
Russ
On Jul 9, 2011, at 4:50 AM, Pat Ladd wrote:
> and insurance company goes after me to reclaim their losses>>
>
> This is unreal, and fascinating. Surely for the insurers to proceed against
you they must prove that you are at fault. You of course have `duty of care` and
must have taken all `reasonable` steps to ensure safety. but beyond that??
A smart lawyer will of course make a case about what is `reasonable` Having a
fire truck standing by if you have 20 planes a day may be `reasonable. If you
have 2 planes a week it probably is not.
> If a visiting pilot rolls his plane into a ball through incorrect handling how
can you be at fault?
>
> Bemused
>
> Pat
>
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| From: | "Thom Riddle" <riddletr(at)gmail.com> |
Fellow Kolbers,
A few months ago, the check valve in my cheap hydraulic jack failed so I put my
thinking cap on and designed a cheap, light-weight (even portable for field repairs)
quick to use axle jack for Kolbs or other aircraft with axles that extend
away from the wheel a bit. I've attached an image of the drawing/sketch that
show the working dimensions. If anyone is interested in more details, I'll
be happy to provide them, including the build dimensions and materials I used.
I plan to make a short video of it in operation on my Slingshot and post that
too.
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Thom Riddle
Buffalo, NY (9G0)
Kolb Slingshot SS-021
Jabiru 2200A #1574
Tennessee Prop 64x32
Truth is what stands the test of experience.
- Albert Einstein
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| Subject: | Re: Looking for info about route to Oshkosh |
| From: | "Dennis Thate" <retroman(at)frontier.com> |
[quote="Dana"]Not a "liability release"... like every state in the US, Minnesota
law protects you from liability:
-Dana
At 11:41 PM 7/8/2011, Dennis Thate wrote:
***********
Dana...... if you believe this ! I have some blue sky I would like to sell you.
.
I once worked for a company x who hired independent trucker z to haul their freight
to another state. Trucker z was involved in a fatality in that state. Trucker
z had limited liability so my company x was sued and had to pay. Called
'The Deeper Pocket Syndrome'.
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There is no such thing as 'liability release' in Minnesota. If I give consent
for a guest pilot to land on my private strip....friend crashes and dies. The
life insurance company pays the benefactor and insurance company goes after me
to reclaim their losses. Even if friend has signed an 'liability release' agreement
not to sue. Which by the way is not legal in Minnesota.
Regarding photo; I have "an indelicate sense of humor". You'll have to toughen
up a bit. [Wink]
--------
Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents
the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern
Faith is believing what you know ain't so - Mark Twain
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> [b]
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Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents
the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern
Faith is believing what you know ain't so - Mark Twain
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| From: | "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: mounting Video Camera's |
The type of foam that you use is still a bit of trial and error thing. I
had a bit of wobble yesterday with the large washer that I used for the
top, so I cut an alum. plate to give it more stability. I had trouble
with it rotating on its own yesterday, so I firmed it up a bit. On my
flight yesterday, the video was bouncing all over. I changed it to just
one piece of foam on the top of the windscreen and took off this morning
for another test. I had it firmed up pretty good, and it was doing a jig
on the take off. I found that if I loosened it up it would settle down.
I did this video with it fairly loose.
http://vimeo.com/26204167
It is a remake of a flight that I took much earlier with a much inferior
camera. I have a Tachyon HD camera that is due out then coming the end
of the month. Cost is $139.00 for the camera.
It did OK, but I had to keep watch on it to make sure that it didn't
turn to the side. I have now put a piece of soft foam on the top with
the alum plate. It should absorb the vibration now.
Larry
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----- Original Message -----
From: Richard Pike
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 7:45 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: mounting Video Camera's
Just got done buying a Koday ZI8 camera on ebay, looking forward to
taking some movies of my own. Thanks for the tips.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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| From: | Thom Riddle <riddletr(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: mounting Video Camera's |
Excellent video, Larry.
The only place around here we can fly safely that low is over Lake Erie or
Ontario. Anywhere else and abrupt end to flight is a definite possibility
unless you really know the specific area.
Thom
On Sat, Jul 9, 2011 at 3:07 PM, Larry Cottrell wrote:
> **
> The type of foam that you use is still a bit of trial and error thing. I
> had a bit of wobble yesterday with the large washer that I used for the top,
> so I cut an alum. plate to give it more stability. I had trouble with it
> rotating on its own yesterday, so I firmed it up a bit. On my flight
> yesterday, the video was bouncing all over. I changed it to just one piece
> of foam on the top of the windscreen and took off this morning for another
> test. I had it firmed up pretty good, and it was doing a jig on the take
> off. I found that if I loosened it up it would settle down. I did this video
> with it fairly loose.
> http://vimeo.com/26204167
>
> It is a remake of a flight that I took much earlier with a much inferior
> camera. I have a Tachyon HD camera that is due out then coming the end of
> the month. Cost is $139.00 for the camera.
>
> It did OK, but I had to keep watch on it to make sure that it didn't turn
> to the side. I have now put a piece of soft foam on the top with the alum
> plate. It should absorb the vibration now.
>
> Larry
>
> Note: If you forward this email, please delete the forwarding history,
> which includes my email address.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Richard Pike
> *To:* kolb-list(at)matronics.com
> *Sent:* Friday, July 08, 2011 7:45 PM
> *Subject:* Kolb-List: Re: mounting Video Camera's
>
>
> Just got done buying a Koday ZI8 camera on ebay, looking forward to taking
> some movies of my own. Thanks for the tips.
>
> Richard Pike
> MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
>
>
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| Subject: | Creating a private airstrip |
| From: | "phactor9" <phactor9(at)yahoo.com> |
I have some general questions about private airstrips, for anyone who owns one,
uses one, or knows someone that does. I'm moving soon and I found a home I'm
considering buying. It's located on a narrow, long, flat tract of land located
within city limits and it would be perfect for ultralights.
Assuming the usual precautions concerning clearance for trees and power lines,
flying over neighboring dwellings, the noise factor, distance from the city's
metro airport (2.2 miles away), etc., what civil, city or state authorities typically
govern setting one up? Is there an approval process? If there is no formal
application process, I assume a courtesy interview of sorts with the local
authorities would be in order just to make them aware? For those who own a strip,
what formal steps did you take to create it (and how long ago)?
Phil H. - Lurker majeure :)
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=345657#345657
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb Axle Jack |
| From: | "SS568" <david(at)PaulowniaTrees.com> |
Thom,
I have nothing on your post that will open to show a sketch. It may be my computer
or browser (firefox). :?
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=345662#345662
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb Axle Jack |
| From: | "Thom Riddle" <riddletr(at)gmail.com> |
ss568,
go to the KOLB Forum website and you should be able to see it there. it is a .tif
file type.
--------
Thom Riddle
Buffalo, NY (9G0)
Kolb Slingshot SS-021
Jabiru 2200A #1574
Tennessee Prop 64x32
Truth is what stands the test of experience.
- Albert Einstein
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb Axle Jack |
| From: | "George Alexander" <gtalexander(at)att.net> |
Thom Riddle wrote:
> ss568,
>
> go to the KOLB Forum website and you should be able to see it there. it is a
.tif file type.
For those who can't open a tif file, attached is a jpg version.
--------
George Alexander
FS II R503 N709FS
http://www.oh2fly.net
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=345664#345664
Attachments:
http://forums.matronics.com//files/kolb_axle_jack_1772_small_162.jpg
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| Subject: | Re: Creating a private airstrip |
| From: | robert bean <slyck(at)frontiernet.net> |
post a google map with your prospective property and the airport on it.
Right now I'd say it doesn't look good.
BB
On 9, Jul 2011, at 8:08 PM, phactor9 wrote:
>
> I have some general questions about private airstrips, for anyone who owns one,
uses one, or knows someone that does. I'm moving soon and I found a home I'm
considering buying. It's located on a narrow, long, flat tract of land located
within city limits and it would be perfect for ultralights.
>
> Assuming the usual precautions concerning clearance for trees and power lines,
flying over neighboring dwellings, the noise factor, distance from the city's
metro airport (2.2 miles away), etc., what civil, city or state authorities
typically govern setting one up? Is there an approval process? If there is no
formal application process, I assume a courtesy interview of sorts with the local
authorities would be in order just to make them aware? For those who own a
strip, what formal steps did you take to create it (and how long ago)?
>
> Phil H. - Lurker majeure :)
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=345657#345657
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb Axle Jack |
| From: | "Thom Riddle" <riddletr(at)gmail.com> |
Thanks , George. I thought about posting it as jpg but it was another step and
assumed all browsers could display tif files. Assumptions frequently are false.
--------
Thom Riddle
Buffalo, NY (9G0)
Kolb Slingshot SS-021
Jabiru 2200A #1574
Tennessee Prop 64x32
Truth is what stands the test of experience.
- Albert Einstein
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb Axle Jack |
| From: | robert bean <slyck(at)frontiernet.net> |
why not invent a twofer gadget: does both an axle and lifts the tailwheel.
BB
On 9, Jul 2011, at 8:51 PM, George Alexander wrote:
>
>
> Thom Riddle wrote:
>> ss568,
>>
>> go to the KOLB Forum website and you should be able to see it there. it is a
.tif file type.
>
>
> For those who can't open a tif file, attached is a jpg version.
>
> --------
> George Alexander
> FS II R503 N709FS
> http://www.oh2fly.net
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=345664#345664
>
>
>
>
> Attachments:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/kolb_axle_jack_1772_small_162.jpg
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| From: | "kirkds" <kirkds(at)dishmail.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Creating a private airstrip |
I just put it in. But I don't live in the city.
----- Original Message -----
From: "phactor9" <phactor9(at)yahoo.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 8:08 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Creating a private airstrip
>
> I have some general questions about private airstrips, for anyone who owns
> one, uses one, or knows someone that does. I'm moving soon and I found a
> home I'm considering buying. It's located on a narrow, long, flat tract of
> land located within city limits and it would be perfect for ultralights.
>
> Assuming the usual precautions concerning clearance for trees and power
> lines, flying over neighboring dwellings, the noise factor, distance from
> the city's metro airport (2.2 miles away), etc., what civil, city or state
> authorities typically govern setting one up? Is there an approval process?
> If there is no formal application process, I assume a courtesy interview
> of sorts with the local authorities would be in order just to make them
> aware? For those who own a strip, what formal steps did you take to create
> it (and how long ago)?
>
> Phil H. - Lurker majeure :)
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=345657#345657
>
>
>
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| From: | Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com> |
| Subject: | Bose A20 Headset - NR Power Button - Panel Power |
Dear Listers,
I bought a couple pairs of the new Bose A20's for the RV-8 and they are very nice.
NR is better than the Bose X's and they seem to fit my head a little better
too.
But I quickly discovered that with the A20's you now have to hit the NR Power button
*every time* you start the aircraft even if you have them panel powered.
The older Bose X headsets have a slide switch for the NR power and so you can
just put the slide switch in the On position and not worry about it.
I really didn't like having to turn the NR on all the time and having to remind
my passengers about it, so I came up with a modification that will automatically
turn the NR on when panel power is applied. Its pretty simple, but requires
some special tools. Its completely self-contained inside the Control Module
and works great. The modification is generally only for installations that
are panel-powered, but you could do the modification to a unit that is normally
battery powered with no adverse effect. With the modification, the NR Power
button will work normally in battery power installations.
I created web page on the procedure including step-by-step photos and instructions.
Feedback is welcome.
http://www.matronics.com/BoseA20AutoOnModification/
Matt
-
Matt Dralle
RV-8 #82880 N998RV "Ruby Vixen"
http://www.mattsrv8.com - Matt's Complete RV-8 Construction Log
http://www.mattsrv8.com/Mishap - Landing Mishap Rebuild Log
http://www.youtube.com/MattsRV8 - Matt's RV-8 HDTV YouTube Channel
Status: 170+ Hours TTSN - Rebuilding Fuselage After Landing Mishap...
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| Subject: | Re: anybody in Louisiana |
| From: | "John Bickham" <gearbender(at)bellsouth.net> |
Hey Travis,
Give me a call. I'm in St. Francisville, La (really Starhill). Just a little
bit north of Baton Rouge. I have a Mark IIIC.
cell 225-505-4353
Just curious, building or buying pre-built?
--------
Thanks too much,
John Bickham
Mark III-C w/ 912UL
St. Francisville, LA
I know many pilots and a few true aviators. There is a distinct difference that
I have the greatest respect for.
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| Subject: | Re: Creating a private airstrip |
| From: | "John Bickham" <gearbender(at)bellsouth.net> |
Phil,
I have a private strip. Put it in about 6 years ago. I think if varies state
to state. The federal (FAA) approval defers to the individual states for the
initial approval. Here in Louisiana, have to go through the aviation division
of the state Department of Transportation.
My advice would be to survey your neighbors. All it takes is one to make life
a bit miserable, even with approval. I try not to hang around my strip to avoid
aggravating anyone. In and out, even though I live in the country.
--------
Thanks too much,
John Bickham
Mark III-C w/ 912UL
St. Francisville, LA
I know many pilots and a few true aviators. There is a distinct difference that
I have the greatest respect for.
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=345689#345689
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| From: | Phil <phactor9(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Creating a private airstrip |
Hi John:
-
I'm realizing I was a bit too elaborate in my description. I really didn't
want to-build an airstrip as much as simply mow-a 450' strip out of the
650' long tract and fly in and out of the backyard (Kolb Firefly). There a
re no homes within 1,200 feet in line with the flight path.
-
So,-anyone with experience in just flying in and out of the backyard (wit
h respect to how the authorities view that); how did you do it?
-
Phil H.
--- On Sat, 7/9/11, John Bickham wrote:
From: John Bickham <gearbender(at)bellsouth.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Creating a private airstrip
Date: Saturday, July 9, 2011, 10:04 PM
Phil,
I have a private strip.- Put it in about 6 years ago.- I think if varie
s state to state.- The federal (FAA) approval defers to the individual st
ates for the initial approval.- Here in Louisiana, have to go through the
aviation division of the state Department of Transportation.
My advice would be to survey your neighbors.- All it takes is one to make
life a bit miserable, even with approval.- I try not to hang around my s
trip to avoid aggravating anyone. In and out, even though I live in the cou
ntry.
--------
Thanks too much,
John Bickham
Mark III-C w/ 912UL
St. Francisville, LA
I know many pilots and a few true aviators.- There is a distinct differen
ce that I have the greatest respect for.
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le, List Admin.
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| Subject: | Gathering at Nauga Field - Nov 11, 12, 13 |
| From: | "John Bickham" <gearbender(at)bellsouth.net> |
OK folks - mark your calenders.
I'm finally getting my head above water (literally) and want to invite folks to
come pass a good time here at Nauga Field.
We haven't been too successful the past couple of years with the weather. Gonna
try again for Nov 11, 12, 13. If the weather is favorable, may head out Sunday
for a group flight toward Texas coast. Just a suggestion - open to others.
If weather acts up again, Nov 18, 19, 20 can be a rain date.
Those that have attended in the past, know how much fun we have. We tend to pass
a good time.
For those that haven't attended before need a little pilot briefing on Nauga Field.
You have to be short field proficient. Passengers not recommended. Nauga
field is 1500 ft with obstacles both ends. Not a problem for Kolbs and pilots
that are used to short fields. If you are used to 3000 plus concrete runways,
this sight picture will scare the @#*^ out of you. Scared me the first time.
We feed you and water you. Even have some T-shirts. You come, the Starhill gang
will do their best to take care of you.
I've been so busy with the flood, grandkids and work, that I have had a hard time
keeping up with e-mail. If you need to get in touch with me might try calling.
Cell -225-505-4353. May have to leave a message because I work shift.
Some details on Nauga Field:
http://www.airnav.com/airport/LS35
Some videos are available on YouTube if want to view them. See the beginning and
end of this one to get a feel for Nauga Field. The dirt work was to get rid
of some "whoopties" a year ago.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Szp1waiP4a0&featurea&list=ULhPMOfYF5wmg&index=12
Just let me know if you plan on attending as we get closer so we can get enough
groceries.
Also have a new option now for those that want to visit and may not want to land
at Nauga Field. There is a brand new bridge that crosses the Mississippi River
right here. That makes False River Airpark (HZR) an 15 minute drive option.
We'll come pick you up and deliver you back.
--------
Thanks too much,
John Bickham
Mark III-C w/ 912UL
St. Francisville, LA
I know many pilots and a few true aviators. There is a distinct difference that
I have the greatest respect for.
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| Subject: | Re: Creating a private airstrip |
| From: | "John Bickham" <gearbender(at)bellsouth.net> |
I got you Phil.
Don't want you to rain on your airstrip. Hope you are truly successful in your
venture. As I said, it varies state to state. Here in Louisiana, even ultralight
fields have to go through an state approval process and ultimately FAA registration.
There is a $500 fine for every takeoff and landing from an un-approved
landing strip. That usually requires someone complaining. Every now and
then, I hear something that requires a "precautionary landing". But don't
revisit that place for a long time.
only problem with having your on strip is GRASS CUTTING! At least down here.
Good luck!
--------
Thanks too much,
John Bickham
Mark III-C w/ 912UL
St. Francisville, LA
I know many pilots and a few true aviators. There is a distinct difference that
I have the greatest respect for.
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=345693#345693
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| Subject: | Re: Creating a private airstrip |
| From: | "Richard Pike" <richard(at)bcchapel.org> |
First check the local city ordinances to see if there are any restrictions. In
our city there are. Fortunately my strip is outside the city limits. If that works,
then go to the local FAA facility that you say is 2.2 miles away and talk
to the tower chief and see if he will give you a Letter of Agreement. For a
sample of what that looks like, here is mine:
http://www.bcchapel.org/MESF/3TN0.html
If you can leap both of those hurdles, then plan to get an intake silencer, and
an exhaust silencer, and use your airport as a place to depart from, and land
at. Pattern work? Forget it, go someplace else. Flying around over the subdivision?
Are you out of your mind? Neither you nor anyone else gets to do that.
If any of your buds want to fly in and visit, acquaint them with the Letter of
Agreement, and make it clear in no uncertain terms that if they bust it, you could
lose the good will of the FAA, and then - as Yoda says "When angry I am,
like me you will not." One thoughtless friend flying around over the subdivision
waving at all the people below instantly becomes YOU in the eyes of the non-pilot
community, and you will be the one to pay the price. So make it plain up
front to any who might want to come and visit.
Which is sort of how that page I linked to lays it out - and it may not sound real
gracious, but that is how I have done it since the mid 80's, and I have had
no problems, and all my pilot friends are cool with it. They come in and land,
and avoid over flying the houses as much as possible.
And since I have been consistently sort of a hard-ass about it, I have never had
any complaints from the neighbors.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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| From: | Ben Ransom <bransom(at)ucdavis.edu> |
| Subject: | Re: Creating a private airstrip |
This is reminding me how good I had it in my earlier days. By shear good l
uck (and asking around), I met a guy Sandy at the local radio control field
. He introduced me to his old farmer friend Bill, who had an FAA approved
strip on his 80 acre farm, 8 miles from my house. He welcomed me into his
place, with just a handshake and understanding, while the $#@! local airpor
t managers of both local airports blew smoke in my face. Bill encouraged m
e to use his strip, as it helped him show the FAA that it was "in use". HA
! I did a million T&Go's there, engine-outs, etc, etc. Had a blast. Just
a narrow little strip of grass on the side of his tomato rows, and a wicke
d deep irrigation ditch to the side (and almost always a bit of cross wind!
). Gad, that was good stuff.
Today, I've lost touch of good ol Bill -- he is probably smilin down from a
bove by now. His house got bulldozed about 10 years ago and a new subdivis
ion sits there now. Fortunately, my KXP has an N number now and I fly out
of airports in the same plane that the same airport manager snubbed me on b
efore. The airport's fine, but nuthin will match the sweetness of goofin a
round at Bill's place, back in the day.
Cheers,
-Ben
________________________________
From: owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com [owner-kolb-list-server@matronic
s.com] on behalf of Phil [phactor9(at)yahoo.com]
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 7:34 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Creating a private airstrip
Hi John:
I'm realizing I was a bit too elaborate in my description. I really didn't
want to build an airstrip as much as simply mow a 450' strip out of the 650
' long tract and fly in and out of the backyard (Kolb Firefly). There are n
o homes within 1,200 feet in line with the flight path.
So, anyone with experience in just flying in and out of the backyard (with
respect to how the authorities view that); how did you do it?
Phil H.
--- On Sat, 7/9/11, John Bickham wrote:
From: John Bickham <gearbender(at)bellsouth.net>
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Creating a private airstrip
Date: Saturday, July 9, 2011, 10:04 PM
ttp://us.mc1608.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=gearbender(at)bellsouth.net>>
Phil,
I have a private strip. Put it in about 6 years ago. I think if varies st
ate to state. The federal (FAA) approval defers to the individual states f
or the initial approval. Here in Louisiana, have to go through the aviatio
n division of the state Department of Transportation.
My advice would be to survey your neighbors. All it takes is one to make l
ife a bit miserable, even with approval. I try not to hang around my strip
to avoid aggravating anyone. In and out, even though I live in the country
.
--------
Thanks too much,
John Bickham
Mark III-C w/ 912UL
St. Francisville, LA
I know many pilots and a few true aviators. There is a distinct difference
that I have the greatest respect for.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronicst;
<http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List>
<http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List>
<http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List>
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| From: | Mike Welch <mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.com> |
| Subject: | Creating a private airstrip |
> I have some general questions about private airstrips=2C for anyone who o
wns one=2C uses one=2C or knows someone that does. I'm moving >soon and I f
ound a home I'm considering buying. It's located on a narrow=2C long=2C fla
t tract of land located within city limits and it would >be perfect for ult
ralights.
>
> Phil H. - Lurker majeure :)
Phil=2C
I was in the process of putting it an airstrip on my property once. I di
dn't finish it=2C though.
I was also a real estate agent=2C and a general contractor....so I'm fairly
familar with "planning &
zoning=2C building codes=2C land use restrictions=2C a&&hole neighbors=2C e
tc.
If you want to find out if you "CAN" put in your airstrip=2C contact the
local Planning & Zoning
department. All land=2C whether it is commercial=2C industrial=2C resident
ial=2C or whatever has
ALLOWABLE uses....and the local P & Z rules determine exactly what those us
es can be.
Each type of land will have dozens of "typical" types of uses that are allo
wed. These lists
will sometimes include what is NOT allowed=2C too=2C and I would suspect an
airstrip is one of them.
Example=3B for a residential R-3 property=2C within city limits=2C less
than 1 acre=2C on a paved street=2C
using city services (water=2C elec=2C gas=2C etc) will allow '1' single fam
ily home=2C not less than 1200 sq ft=2C
etc=2C etc=2C etc=2C etc. You get the idea. What you can and can not do
is NOT by whim!!! It is determined
by the State=2C the County=2C and the City where you want to put it=2C gene
rally speaking=2C it is MOST
determined by the local P & Z department....and trust me=2C they'll be the
ones who show up to tell you
you can't do this if the codes so "NO".
P & Z makes the decision=2C NOT your neighbors. If P & Z says it's okay
=2C neighbors can't say too much.
If P & Z rules say it NOT ok=2C then one gripe by a neighbor shuts you down
.
From my real estate days....I say "do NOT buy that property expecting you
can do what you want"!! It is
up to you to confirm your intentions prior to making an offer! You haven't
made an offer yet=2C right?
If you have a real estate agent worth a damn=2C he/she would do all the leg
work to find out what you
want=2C and see if it is approved by the local CC&R's. But then=2C again
=2C that may be just me.
BTW=2C IMO=2C I doubt very seriously if you're going to fly from that gra
ss strip in city limits. Those
days are gone. You're going to need some country property....and don't for
get P & Z's permission!
Mike Welch
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| From: | "Pat Ladd" <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Looking for info about route to Oshkosh |
Hi Russ
<>
I have never heard of this sort of informal agreement except in the case
of taking a passenger for a flight. We had them in the gliding club when
I first started flying in 1964. We always called it the `Blood chit`
and it just says `flying is dangerous if anything happens it aint my
fault`
I still get anyone that I fly sign a chit. I don`t think that it has
ever been seriously challenged in Court but I suspect that it wouldn`t
hold water.. Thank heaven that we are not quite as litigious as you.
YET.
The other day I spoke to a guy who was the CFI when I started gliding
and he asked me had I ever realised, back then, that I could get killed
. I said `Of course, but I never took it seriously and certainly no one
ever made a song and dance about it. He says that now they have to sit
a prospective member down and explain to him that he could get hurt,
perhaps seriously, and get him to sign that he has had the dangers
pointed out to him before he joined. .
Glory be. What ever happened? Health and Safety would never allow
Wilbur to go messing about with that flying machine today.
Cheers
Pat
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| From: | "Pat Ladd" <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Looking for info about route to Oshkosh |
<>
The sad part is that it would only take one judge to stand up and say "There
is no case to answer, no one is at fault, shit happens. The costs are
against the complainant" and the whole edifice would collapse like a pack
of cards.
Some hope
Pat
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| From: | "Jerry Deckard" <flypoker(at)windstream.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Creating a private airstrip |
I have a 1200' strip. I am not in any city limit and not near a muni
airport. I just did a little dirt work, start mowing it and I have a strip.
After reading some the replies, I am glad that I live in rural Missouri,
where if not in a city, you can do as you please. The bad part is that so
can my neighbors if they wish. No zoning, no codes nobody to say no.
There abour 6 ag strips within 3 mile radius of my house/strip. Got to watch
out for the crop dusters.
Jerry
----- Original Message -----
From: "phactor9" <phactor9(at)yahoo.com>
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 7:08 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: Creating a private airstrip
>
> I have some general questions about private airstrips, for anyone who owns
> one, uses one, or knows someone that does. I'm moving soon and I found a
> home I'm considering buying. It's located on a narrow, long, flat tract of
> land located within city limits and it would be perfect for ultralights.
>
> Assuming the usual precautions concerning clearance for trees and power
> lines, flying over neighboring dwellings, the noise factor, distance from
> the city's metro airport (2.2 miles away), etc., what civil, city or state
> authorities typically govern setting one up? Is there an approval process?
> If there is no formal application process, I assume a courtesy interview
> of sorts with the local authorities would be in order just to make them
> aware? For those who own a strip, what formal steps did you take to create
> it (and how long ago)?
>
> Phil H. - Lurker majeure :)
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=345657#345657
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Creating a private airstrip |
| From: | robert bean <slyck(at)frontiernet.net> |
Mine is similar to Jerry's. 1200', well drained, can fly off it anytime there
is less than 4" snow. Not "recognized" by any authority
but the tower at ROC knew there are several strips out here many years ago. It
helped that my neighbor was n FAA inspector.
Been flying out of here since 1972 and only had two NYS thruway troopers stroll
over to see who "crashed"
Never fly over the nearby village. Also avoid one neighbor to the northwest I
don't trust to be kindly. The rest love to see
me cruising around the neighborhood on a pretty summer evening. Many waves.
There is one township on the NE of our county that passed an ordinance forbidding
any aircraft operations and strips
as a result of one cranky guy who hated his neighbor having a helicopter. Glad
I don't live there.
BB
On 10, Jul 2011, at 7:38 AM, Jerry Deckard wrote:
>
> I have a 1200' strip. I am not in any city limit and not near a muni airport.
I just did a little dirt work, start mowing it and I have a strip. After reading
some the replies, I am glad that I live in rural Missouri, where if not in
a city, you can do as you please. The bad part is that so can my neighbors if
they wish. No zoning, no codes nobody to say no.
>
> There abour 6 ag strips within 3 mile radius of my house/strip. Got to watch
out for the crop dusters.
> Jerry
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "phactor9" <phactor9(at)yahoo.com>
> To:
> Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2011 7:08 PM
> Subject: Kolb-List: Creating a private airstrip
>
>
>>
>> I have some general questions about private airstrips, for anyone who owns one,
uses one, or knows someone that does. I'm moving soon and I found a home I'm
considering buying. It's located on a narrow, long, flat tract of land located
within city limits and it would be perfect for ultralights.
>>
>> Assuming the usual precautions concerning clearance for trees and power lines,
flying over neighboring dwellings, the noise factor, distance from the city's
metro airport (2.2 miles away), etc., what civil, city or state authorities
typically govern setting one up? Is there an approval process? If there is no
formal application process, I assume a courtesy interview of sorts with the local
authorities would be in order just to make them aware? For those who own
a strip, what formal steps did you take to create it (and how long ago)?
>>
>> Phil H. - Lurker majeure :)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=345657#345657
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
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| From: | Mike Welch <mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.com> |
| Subject: | Creating a private airstrip |
> I have a 1200' strip.... in rural Missouri=2C
> Jerry
Jerry=2C
What part of Missouri are you? I don't recall if you mentioned it before
.
Mike Welch
near Lake of the Ozarks
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| Subject: | Re: Creating a private airstrip |
| From: | Dana Hague <d-m-hague(at)comcast.net> |
The rules vary from state to state. Some states have no restrictions, and you can
land anywhere you want. Others, like NJ, you can't land anywhere except a state
approved airport. Here in CT, you can do 35 takeoffs or landings per year
before you have to license it with the state... though it's not clear if this
applies to ultralights.
We started a new strip here last year, mostly UL with occasional GA visits. No
formal permission. We flew for a few months before a neighbor complained and the
zoning board shut us down, saying the zoning regulations didn't allow an airport
there. We then made a formal application for a zoning change, and rather
than grant it, the board decided there was nothing in the regs actually prohibiting
it, either... so they told us to go have fun, just don't annoy anybody.
We too have to be hardass about staying away from houses.
2 miles from another airport requires care. If there's a control tower, then obviously
you need clearance to fly in their class D airspace. We fly a low (400'),
close pattern.
-Dana
phactor9 wrote:
I have some general questions about private airstrips, for anyone who owns one,
uses one, or knows someone that does. I'm moving soon and I found a home I'm
considering buying. It's located on a narrow, long, flat tract of land located
within city limits and it would be perfect for ultralights.
Assuming the usual precautions concerning clearance for trees and power lines,
flying over neighboring dwellings, the noise factor, distance from the city's
metro airport (2.2 miles away), etc., what civil, city or state authorities typically
govern setting one up? Is there an approval process? If there is no formal
application process, I assume a courtesy interview of sorts with the local
authorities would be in order just to make them aware? For those who own a strip,
what formal steps did you take to create it (and how long ago)?
Phil H. - Lurker majeure :)
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=345657#345657
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Gathering at Nauga Field - Nov 11, 12, 13 |
> We haven't been too successful the past couple of years with the weather.
Gonna try again for Nov 11, 12, 13. If the weather is favorable, may head
out Sunday for a group flight toward Texas coast. Just a suggestion - open
to others. If weather acts up again, Nov 18, 19, 20 can be a rain date.
> John Bickham
John, got it marked on my calendar. See ya 11 Nov.
john h
mkIII
Tuscaloosa, Alabama
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Creating a private airstrip |
> Mine is similar to Jerry's. 1200', well drained, can fly off it anytime
> there is less than 4" snow. Not "recognized" by any authority
> but the tower at ROC knew there are several strips out here many years
> ago. It helped that my neighbor was n FAA inspector.
> BB
I have been flying out of my neighbors front yard, a cow pasture, since
1984. Initially, it was 600 feet. Now it is 750 feet.
It is not registered, but Gantt International Airport has been operational
for 27 years. Many international flights have originated and terminated
here.
Everyone is welcome to land. We have never been sued by any of our friends.
john h
mkIII
Tuscaloosa, Alabama
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| From: | "Jerry Deckard" <flypoker(at)windstream.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Creating a private airstrip |
Southeast, Near Poplar Bluff.
Jerry
----- Original Message -----
From: Mike Welch
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 8:43 AM
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Creating a private airstrip
> I have a 1200' strip.... in rural Missouri,
> Jerry
Jerry,
What part of Missouri are you? I don't recall if you mentioned it
before.
Mike Welch
near Lake of the Ozarks
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| Subject: | Re: Creating a private airstrip |
| From: | "Richard Pike" <richard(at)bcchapel.org> |
Dana wrote:
>
>
> 2 miles from another airport requires care. If there's a control tower, then
obviously you need clearance to fly in their class D airspace. We fly a low (400'),
close pattern.
>
> -Dana
That's why you want a letter of agreement: so you don't have to ask every time.
Because you don't want to, and because if they are busy they don't want to hear
from you. Trust me: I know.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Retired FAA ATC, 30 years of shuckin' & jivin'
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=345775#345775
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| From: | "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: mounting Video Camera's |
OK, final test today. Yesterday I flew with the stiff foam under the
camera. If I screwed it down tight enough to not move around, then I had
shake from the motor. So today I used a soft piece of foam about 1 inch
to 1 1/2 thick under the top mount with a alum backing plate, and the
stiff stuff against my windscreen on the underneath side. I also
compressed it enough to firm it up, and half way through the flight, I
screwed it down even tighter.
Much better all the way around. See for yourself.
http://vimeo.com/26234130
There has always been mention of how stiff the ailerons are on Kolbs,
and they are. However we must not forget that the Kolb is a rudder
airplane. The turns were possible only when I was using the rudder, and
by leading the turn with the rudder, the ailerons were not noticeably
stiff. At least I wasn't aware of them being a problem. Ground speed
was mid 60's
In case anyone is interested, this camera is for sale with everything
except the screw in adjustable mount. I will need it for the HD camera.
$100.00
Larry
Note: If you forward this email, please delete the forwarding history,
which includes my email address.
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb Axle Jack |
| From: | "Thom Riddle" <riddletr(at)gmail.com> |
BB,
The need or a "twofer" has not yet arisen in my hangar so I've not rigged one :-).
Just before flying out to your place this morning, BB, I made a short video of
the axle jack at work. Note the little triangular piece I cut off of the 2x8 corner
is used as a security chock, if leaving the jacked airplane for awhile with
the wheel off. The over center is enough to keep it locked in place, unless
someone gives the Kolb a big push. This little triangular piece prevents it
from coming back over center and falling, even if someone tried to knock it off
the jack.
To jack higher or a Kolb with larger diameter tires, just place a 2x6 under the
jack and it will raise the axle another 1.5" higher. I used the handle from my
dysfunctional hydraulic jack but one could use a hardwood dowel.
I know this is simple and nobody asked for this but I've found it to be quite useful.
Worth what you paid for it, as at least one Kolber often sez.
Video Link:
http://www.youtube.com/user/thomriddle?feature=mhee
You will notice in the video that the 3" dia. wheels on the jack do not roll much.
This is because the asphalt surface in my hangar is very rough and not much
better than course gravel stuck together with a little tar.
--------
Thom Riddle
Buffalo, NY (9G0)
Kolb Slingshot SS-021
Jabiru 2200A #1574
Tennessee Prop 64x32
Truth is what stands the test of experience.
- Albert Einstein
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| From: | william sullivan <williamtsullivan(at)att.net> |
- I am trying to repair a chafed spot on a wing, due to a storm blowing a
tarp around.--I cleaned off the Poly Tone with MEK, cemented and shrun
k a patch in place.--I applied the Poly Brush, and when the first coat
was dry I noticed a bare spot about 1" square.- Tried again, and the bare
spot was still there.- Cleaned with MEK, and tried again.- Cleaned wit
h thinner, and tried again.- Still have a bare spot that seems to repel P
oly Brush.- Anybody have a reason and a solution?- The rest of the patc
h is fine.- The whole thing is about 4" square.
-
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---- Bill Sullivan
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---- Windsor Locks, Ct.
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---- FS 447
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| Subject: | Re: Creating a private airstrip |
| From: | russ kinne <russkinne(at)mac.com> |
That's because you're in a civilized part of the world, with civilized & polite
people!
Russ
On Jul 10, 2011, at 10:03 AM, John Hauck wrote:
>
>
>
>> Mine is similar to Jerry's. 1200', well drained, can fly off it anytime there
is less than 4" snow. Not "recognized" by any authority
>> but the tower at ROC knew there are several strips out here many years ago.
It helped that my neighbor was n FAA inspector.
> > BB
>
>
> I have been flying out of my neighbors front yard, a cow pasture, since 1984.
Initially, it was 600 feet. Now it is 750 feet.
>
> It is not registered, but Gantt International Airport has been operational for
27 years. Many international flights have originated and terminated here.
>
> Everyone is welcome to land. We have never been sued by any of our friends.
>
> john h
> mkIII
> Tuscaloosa, Alabama
>
>
>
>
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| From: | russ kinne <russkinne(at)mac.com> |
| Subject: | Re: mounting Video Camera's |
Larry
You've obviously licked the mount problems. But you have a strong magenta cast
in earth/road/some brush. I don't know these cameras. Is there any adjustment
on the camera?
Wonder how the new one will do?
Fair winds,
Russ
On Jul 10, 2011, at 2:03 PM, Larry Cottrell wrote:
> OK, final test today. Yesterday I flew with the stiff foam under the camera.
If I screwed it down tight enough to not move around, then I had shake from the
motor. So today I used a soft piece of foam about 1 inch to 1 1/2 thick under
the top mount with a alum backing plate, and the stiff stuff against my windscreen
on the underneath side. I also compressed it enough to firm it up, and
half way through the flight, I screwed it down even tighter.
>
> Much better all the way around. See for yourself.
> http://vimeo.com/26234130
>
> There has always been mention of how stiff the ailerons are on Kolbs, and they
are. However we must not forget that the Kolb is a rudder airplane. The turns
were possible only when I was using the rudder, and by leading the turn with
the rudder, the ailerons were not noticeably stiff. At least I wasn't aware
of them being a problem. Ground speed was mid 60's
>
> In case anyone is interested, this camera is for sale with everything except
the screw in adjustable mount. I will need it for the HD camera. $100.00
>
> Larry
> Note: If you forward this email, please delete the forwarding history, which
includes my email address.
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| From: | Mike Welch <mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.com> |
Bill=2C try letting the Poly Brush "air out' some=2C letting some of the ME
K vapors
escape. Maybe a slightly richer solution of the P. Brush will keep the MEK
from
'washing' the repair. Or=2C as an alternative=2C if you have any Poly Tak
available=2C
try a quick coat of that and see if it works.
Mike Welch
Date: Sun=2C 10 Jul 2011 14:09:16 -0700
From: williamtsullivan(at)att.net
Subject: Kolb-List: Stits repair
I am trying to repair a chafed spot on a wing=2C due to a storm blowing a
tarp around. I cleaned off the Poly Tone with MEK=2C cemented and shrunk
a patch in place. I applied the Poly Brush=2C and when the first coat was
dry I noticed a bare spot about 1" square. Tried again=2C and the bare spo
t was still there. Cleaned with MEK=2C and tried again. Cleaned with thin
ner=2C and tried again. Still have a bare spot that seems to repel Poly Br
ush. Anybody have a reason and a solution? The rest of the patch is fine.
The whole thing is about 4" square.
Bill Sullivan
Windsor Locks=2C Ct.
FS 447
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| From: | "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: mounting Video Camera's |
No, there is no adjustment, it is possibly because it was early in the
morning. I wouldn't fly that way at any other time, except perhaps late
evening, and the wind generally blows pretty enthusiastically here. As
for the new one, I will have to let you know. I suppose to a large
extent, it will depend on how much you pay for the camera. These are not
very expensive and as Rick said, best described as "throwaways"
Larry
Note: If you forward this email, please delete the forwarding history,
which includes my email address.
----- Original Message -----
From: russ kinne
To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2011 4:20 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: mounting Video Camera's
Larry
You've obviously licked the mount problems. But you have a strong
magenta cast in earth/road/some brush. I don't know these cameras. Is
there any adjustment on the camera?
Wonder how the new one will do?
Fair winds,
Russ
On Jul 10, 2011, at 2:03 PM, Larry Cottrell wrote:
OK, final test today. Yesterday I flew with the stiff foam under the
camera. If I screwed it down tight enough to not move around, then I had
shake from the motor. So today I used a soft piece of foam about 1 inch
to 1 1/2 thick under the top mount with a alum backing plate, and the
stiff stuff against my windscreen on the underneath side. I also
compressed it enough to firm it up, and half way through the flight, I
screwed it down even tighter.
Much better all the way around. See for yourself.
http://vimeo.com/26234130
There has always been mention of how stiff the ailerons are on
Kolbs, and they are. However we must not forget that the Kolb is a
rudder airplane. The turns were possible only when I was using the
rudder, and by leading the turn with the rudder, the ailerons were not
noticeably stiff. At least I wasn't aware of them being a problem.
Ground speed was mid 60's
In case anyone is interested, this camera is for sale with
everything except the screw in adjustable mount. I will need it for the
HD camera. $100.00
Larry
Note: If you forward this email, please delete the forwarding
history, which includes my email address.
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| Subject: | Re: Creating a private airstrip |
| From: | Dana Hague <d-m-hague(at)comcast.net> |
I wasn't clear... our strip is about 2 miles from an _uncontrolled_ airport. In
some ways that's even worse, since even though we monitor the unicom, you don't
know who's in the pattern.
We used to fly PPGs from a sod farm just barely inside a class D. Called the tower
each time... we talked about getting a letter of agreement, but then some
clown in a PPC (not one of our group) buzzed the town and now the tower won't
let us fly there anymore. :(
-Dana
Richard Pike wrote:
Dana wrote:
>
>
> 2 miles from another airport requires care. If there's a control tower, then
obviously you need clearance to fly in their class D airspace. We fly a low (400'),
close pattern.
>
> -Dana
That's why you want a letter of agreement: so you don't have to ask every time.
Because you don't want to, and because if they are busy they don't want to hear
from you. Trust me: I know.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Retired FAA ATC, 30 years of shuckin' & jivin'
Read this topic online here:
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| From: | william sullivan <williamtsullivan(at)att.net> |
Mike- I let it air out (gas off) for 3 days, and still had the problem. I w
ill try a coat of Poly Tak.- Thanks.- I'll let you know.- I just chec
ked it- the spot is the size of a nickle.
-
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----------------------- Bill
--- On Sun, 7/10/11, Mike Welch wrote:
From: Mike Welch <mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Stits repair
Date: Sunday, July 10, 2011, 7:05 PM
Bill, try letting the Poly Brush "air out' some, letting some of the MEK va
pors
escape.- Maybe a slightly richer solution of the P. Brush will keep the M
EK from
'washing' the repair.- Or, as an alternative, if you have any Poly Tak av
ailable,
try a quick coat of that and see if it works.
Mike Welch
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 14:09:16 -0700
From: williamtsullivan(at)att.net
Subject: Kolb-List: Stits repair
- I am trying to repair a chafed spot on a wing, due to a storm blowing a
tarp around.--I cleaned off the Poly Tone with MEK, cemented and shrun
k a patch in place.--I applied the Poly Brush, and when the first coat
was dry I noticed a bare spot about 1" square.- Tried again, and the bare
spot was still there.- Cleaned with MEK, and tried again.- Cleaned wit
h thinner, and tried again.- Still have a bare spot that seems to repel P
oly Brush.- Anybody have a reason and a solution?- The rest of the patc
h is fine.- The whole thing is about 4" square.
-
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---- Bill Sullivan
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---- Windsor Locks, Ct.
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---- FS 447
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| Subject: | Re: Stits repair |
| From: | Richard Girard <aslsa.rng(at)gmail.com> |
Bill, Why not just take the patch off and put on another? No sense beating
your brains out. You've gotten some kind of contamination on the cloth that
prevents it from wicking up the chemicals. Fiberglass will do the same thing
if you get a drop of sweat on it (or any water, for that matter) and the
resin will not penetrate.
Rick Girard
On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 4:09 PM, william sullivan
wrote:
> I am trying to repair a chafed spot on a wing, due to a storm blowing a
> tarp around. I cleaned off the Poly Tone with MEK, cemented and shrunk a
> patch in place. I applied the Poly Brush, and when the first coat was dry I
> noticed a bare spot about 1" square. Tried again, and the bare spot was
> still there. Cleaned with MEK, and tried again. Cleaned with thinner, and
> tried again. Still have a bare spot that seems to repel Poly Brush.
> Anybody have a reason and a solution? The rest of the patch is fine. The
> whole thing is about 4" square.
>
> Bill Sullivan
> Windsor Locks, Ct.
> FS 447
>
> *
>
> *
>
>
--
Zulu Delta
Mk IIIC
Thanks, Homer GBYM
It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy.
- Groucho Marx
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| Subject: | Re: Creating a private airstrip |
| From: | "Richard Pike" <richard(at)bcchapel.org> |
Dana wrote:
> We used to fly PPGs from a sod farm just barely inside a class D. Called
the tower each time... we talked about getting a letter of agreement, but then
some clown in a PPC (not one of our group) buzzed the town and now the tower
won't let us fly there anymore. :(
>
>
If you are as competitive as I am and like to game the system...
Are you still talking ultralights wanting to use that strip, or N-numbered aircraft?
Because if everybody has an N number, you go back and tell them you want
to use that strip, and you want a Letter of Agreement. And if the tower chief
says no, then you bring the slowest N-numbered puddle futzers in the area out
to his airport and get in the touch and go pattern every chance you can for as
long as it takes...
And if anybody complains, (and everybody will) you just announce over the frequency
"Well, we would like to use the strip that is four and a half miles away,
but the FAA won't let us, because it is JUST inside the class D, so we have to
come here."
The mission of the FAA is the safe, orderly and expeditious use of airspace, not
the denial of it to anybody. So if they start denying you the use of YOUR airspace
(it's not theirs, it is yours) then you deny them the ability to do anything
orderly or expeditious. And make sure they know it.
Anyway, that's the sort of thing I would do -
Richaard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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| From: | Sky Biker <smlplanet(at)msn.com> |
| Subject: | Creating a private airstrip |
I have heard a lot of comments as to what needs to be done to have a person
al airstrip. It may differer from state to state and the county or city.
I live in SW Florida and have my own airstrip for 8 years and had I listene
d to the local authorities I wouldn't have it. I do live in a rural area of
the county but when I starting fencing it in to keep week end 4 wheels fro
m tearing it up I was sited and told I couldn't have an airstrip. I then r
esearched the federal=2C state and local codes and definitions plus past c
ourt cases when a personal airstrip had been denied by the zoning departmen
ts. The end results are that I put packages together with my finding and g
ave them to the departments who was or would be involved . I had met with t
he county attorney after being told by code enforcement that it was illegal
and I could not get a permit for my airstrip. Two days after giving my pac
kets to the persons involved including the county attorney I was called to
her office. I was told I could have my airstrip and was not required to hav
e a permit (plus I have that in writing). As I told her I had hoped to go t
o court and challenge them and their self imposed regulation that they woul
d to see or be paid to apply for. I guess what I am saying just don't take
their word that it is the law or in the code regulation...research.
> Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Creating a private airstrip
> From: russkinne(at)mac.com
> Date: Sun=2C 10 Jul 2011 18:12:58 -0400
> To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
>
>
> That's because you're in a civilized part of the world=2C with civilized
& polite people!
> Russ
>
> On Jul 10=2C 2011=2C at 10:03 AM=2C John Hauck wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> >> Mine is similar to Jerry's. 1200'=2C well drained=2C can fly off it a
nytime there is less than 4" snow. Not "recognized" by any authority
> >> but the tower at ROC knew there are several strips out here many years
ago. It helped that my neighbor was n FAA inspector.
> > > BB
> >
> >
> > I have been flying out of my neighbors front yard=2C a cow pasture=2C s
ince 1984. Initially=2C it was 600 feet. Now it is 750 feet.
> >
> > It is not registered=2C but Gantt International Airport has been operat
ional for 27 years. Many international flights have originated and termina
ted here.
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> > Everyone is welcome to land. We have never been sued by any of our fri
ends.
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> > john h
> > mkIII
> > Tuscaloosa=2C Alabama
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| From: | robert bean <slyck(at)frontiernet.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Stits repair |
that is from oil contamination. Car painters call them fish eyes. It
has worked itself through the weave and would be hard to rinse away.
Auto paint shops sell (or did) a surfactant that you drip with a
measuring eyedropper into the paint you are applying that will overcome
most problems.
BB
On 10, Jul 2011, at 7:23 PM, william sullivan wrote:
> Mike- I let it air out (gas off) for 3 days, and still had the
problem. I will try a coat of Poly Tak. Thanks. I'll let you know. I
just checked it- the spot is the size of a nickle.
>
> Bill
>
> --- On Sun, 7/10/11, Mike Welch wrote:
>
> From: Mike Welch <mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.com>
> Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Stits repair
> To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
> Date: Sunday, July 10, 2011, 7:05 PM
>
> Bill, try letting the Poly Brush "air out' some, letting some of the
MEK vapors
> escape. Maybe a slightly richer solution of the P. Brush will keep
the MEK from
> 'washing' the repair. Or, as an alternative, if you have any Poly Tak
available,
> try a quick coat of that and see if it works.
>
> Mike Welch
>
> Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 14:09:16 -0700
> From: williamtsullivan(at)att.net
> Subject: Kolb-List: Stits repair
> To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
>
> I am trying to repair a chafed spot on a wing, due to a storm
blowing a tarp around. I cleaned off the Poly Tone with MEK, cemented
and shrunk a patch in place. I applied the Poly Brush, and when the
first coat was dry I noticed a bare spot about 1" square. Tried again,
and the bare spot was still there. Cleaned with MEK, and tried again.
Cleaned with thinner, and tried again. Still have a bare spot that
seems to repel Poly Brush. Anybody have a reason and a solution? The
rest of the patch is fine. The whole thing is about 4" square.
>
> Bill Sullivan
> Windsor Locks,
Ct.
> FS 447
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| From: | william sullivan <williamtsullivan(at)att.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Stits repair |
- Rick--I had thought of contamination, maybe some kind of clear oil?-
but the Poly Tak under that area seems to be holding normally.- Maybe, li
ke you said, sweat.- I am going to try the "fill it with Poly Tak" method
first.- It is a 4" x 4" patch over a chafed spot about 2" long by 1/2" h
igh.- No big deal to take it off if--I have to. Thanks.
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--- On Sun, 7/10/11, Richard Girard wrote:
From: Richard Girard <aslsa.rng(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Stits repair
Date: Sunday, July 10, 2011, 7:28 PM
Bill, Why not just take the patch off and put on another? No sense beating
your brains out. You've gotten some kind of contamination on the cloth that
prevents it from wicking up the chemicals. Fiberglass will do the same thi
ng if you get a drop of sweat on it (or any water, for that matter) and the
resin will not penetrate.
Rick Girard
On Sun, Jul 10, 2011 at 4:09 PM, william sullivan wrote:
- I am trying to repair a chafed spot on a wing, due to a storm blowing a
tarp around.--I cleaned off the Poly Tone with MEK, cemented and shrun
k a patch in place.--I applied the Poly Brush, and when the first coat
was dry I noticed a bare spot about 1" square.- Tried again, and the bare
spot was still there.- Cleaned with MEK, and tried again.- Cleaned wit
h thinner, and tried again.- Still have a bare spot that seems to repel P
oly Brush.- Anybody have a reason and a solution?- The rest of the patc
h is fine.- The whole thing is about 4" square.
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Thanks, Homer GBYM
It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy.
- - Groucho Marx
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| From: | "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart(at)onlyinternet.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Creating a private airstrip |
From: "Jerry Deckard" <flypoker(at)windstream.net>
Date: Sun, 10 Jul 2011 10:11:54 -0500
>----- Original Message -----
>Southeast, Near Poplar Bluff.
>Jerry
Jerry has a nice strip. Jerry had a flyin and I flew the FireFly down from
Perryville, MO. It was my longest cross country at the time, about 215
miles. I had to stash fuel at Painton, MO, my EAA Chapter meeting place, so
that I could top off the tank going and coming. From my flight log:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
May 15, 2004 - Flights 426,7,8 & 429 - 4 hours 20 minutes - 135:03 tt,
Victor 1+ - 56:03 burned 10.3 gallons of fuel for and average of 2.38 gph.
Set the squelch on the radio to a higher number and the noise from the gps
disappeared. Flew from Perryville to Painton, to Neelyville - Jerry
Deckard's grass strip, to Painton and back to Perryville. Not very good
visibility on the way down but a little better on the way back. Had a
little tail wind going down. Tore up a brake at Painton. I should have
taken it a part to prevent further damage, but I didn't and basically I
ruined the band and most of the rest of the brake. I will be able to use
just one, but I believe it is time to design a more robust braking system.
Average mpg was 20.8. Luggage compartment lid popped loose in the rear. I
must put a cleat under the boat tail fairing bracket to keep the luggage lid
in place. Wore neck sock, vest, old green hooded sweat shirt, leather
jacket, gloves, soft flight helmet and goggles. Air was 55 on the way down
and 60 to 65 on the way back at 1,000 agl. Did get a little chilled on the
way to Painton and Neelyville, but no problems on the way home. On final
and after I closed the throttle, the engine quit. I may have to adjust the
idle screw to lean it out a little.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Making progress on the FireFly. Sewing up split fabric flaps that uncovered
the broken wing braces. I work in the mornings and early afternoons before
the direct sun heat load strikes. Still have keep a towel in place to keep
from sweating things up. One slit left to sew in each wing. Going good
today until I dropped the needle and it slid down hill, through the open
slit and into the wing. Quit for the day. Tomorrow, I will take a magnetic
probe over and try to recover the needle.
Jack B. Hart FF004
Winchester, IN
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| Subject: | Re: Gathering at Nauga Field - Nov 11, 12, 13 |
| From: | "Jimmy Young" <jdy100(at)comcast.net> |
John B,
Count me in, looking forward to it.
--------
Jimmy Young
Missouri City, TX
Kolb FS II/HKS 700
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| Subject: | Re: Creating a private airstrip |
| From: | Dana Hague <d-m-hague(at)comcast.net> |
No, it's just a great big sod farm, perfect for PPGs which the owner gave us permission
for... I don't think he'd want a bunch of planes rolling on his grass,
though I have flown in with my Ultrastar.
-Dana
Richard Pike wrote:
>If you are as competitive as I am and like to game the system...
>
>Are you still talking ultralights wanting to use that strip, or
>N-numbered aircraft? Because if everybody has an N number, you go back
>and tell them you want to use that strip, and you want a Letter of
>Agreement. And if the tower chief says no, then you bring the slowest
>N-numbered puddle futzers in the area out to his airport and get in the
>touch and go pattern every chance you can for as long as it takes...
>
>And if anybody complains, (and everybody will) you just announce over
>the frequency "Well, we would like to use the strip that is four and a
>half miles away, but the FAA won't let us, because it is JUST inside
>the class D, so we have to come here."
>
>The mission of the FAA is the safe, orderly and expeditious use of
>airspace, not the denial of it to anybody. So if they start denying you
>the use of YOUR airspace (it's not theirs, it is yours) then you deny
>them the ability to do anything orderly or expeditious. And make sure
>they know it.
>
>Anyway, that's the sort of thing I would do -
>
>Richaard Pike
>MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
>
>
>Read this topic online here:
>
>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=345826#345826
>
>
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| From: | "Nick Cassara" <nickc(at)mtaonline.net> |
| Subject: | Airspeed and Flaps? |
Hello Kolber's,
I enjoy a few hours of Pitch hitter training in a C-180 last week. The
Instructor said not to engage the first notch of flaps above 80kts. That got
me wondering, what air speed do Mark III flyers slow down to before you
deploy your flaps?
Thanks,
Nick Cassara
Palmer, Alaska
N607AK
Kolbra with flaps under construction.
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| Subject: | Re: Airspeed and Flaps? |
| From: | Richard Girard <aslsa.rng(at)gmail.com> |
The white arc on my airplane ends at 65 mph.
Rick Girard
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 10:06 PM, Nick Cassara wrote:
> Hello Kolber=92s,****
>
> ** **
>
> I enjoy a few hours of Pitch hitter training in a C-180 last week. The
> Instructor said not to engage the first notch of flaps above 80kts. That
got
> me wondering, what air speed do Mark III flyers slow down to before you
> deploy your flaps?****
>
> ** **
>
> Thanks,****
>
> ** **
>
> Nick Cassara****
>
> Palmer, Alaska****
>
> ** **
>
> N607AK ****
>
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Zulu Delta
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Thanks, Homer GBYM
It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy.
- Groucho Marx
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| From: | "b young" <byoungplumbing(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Kolb-List Digest: 9 Msgs - 07/11/11 |
i had asked kolb the same question years ago and was answered,,,," if you
can pull the handle, at any speed,, even up to vne,,, it is ok to fly at
that speed with
the flaps deployed.
ie if you can pull the handle at 80 it is ok. there was an
airworthiness directive / email sent out that asked if the flap handle
attachment to the torque tube had a gusset on it. and i dont remember all
the details... but if there were no gusset, the above was not true.
that said,,, my white arc ends at 60
at least that is the way i remember things.. if anyone has any different
information, i will apologize to the list. for my wild ramblings.
boyd young
mkiii utah
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
I enjoy a few hours of Pitch hitter training in a C-180 last week. The
Instructor said not to engage the first notch of flaps above 80kts. That got
me wondering, what air speed do Mark III flyers slow down to before you
deploy your flaps?
Thanks,
Nick Cassara
Palmer, Alaska
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| From: | Mike Welch <mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Kolb-List Digest: 9 Msgs - 07/11/11 |
> ie if you can pull the handle at 80 it is ok. there was an
> airworthiness directive / email sent out that asked if the flap handle
> attachment to the torque tube had a gusset on it. and i dont remember al
l
> the details... but if there were no gusset=2C the above was not true.
>
> that said=2C=2C=2C my white arc ends at 60
>
>
> at least that is the way i remember things.. if anyone has any different
> information=2C i will apologize to the list. for my wild ramblings.
>
> boyd young
> mkiii utah
Kolb guys=2C
Flap deployment=2C from my experience=2C is usually done when one is inte
rested in slowing down=2C
most of the time on their way to landing. Maybe there are other times=2C b
ut I can't think of any
right now (and we're NOT talking about 'taking off!!) I suppose you could
pull in some flaps if
you just wanted to cruise around=2C flying as slow as you can. In any eve
nt....you don't pull in
flaps at 75+ (in a Kolb)=2C at least I know I won't!
I would think 60-65mph is fairly generous for your flap deployment speed.
I would think considering
the MkIII's flying/landing speeds=2C most guys would be using 50-55mph for
10 degrees.
Maybe we could have someone who has a MkIII share with us their entire V
speed ranges (i.e.
rotation speed=2C climb out=2C typical cruise=2C 10 deg flap deployment=2C
approach=2C over the fence=2C etc=2C etc)
I would be interested in knowing what they do on a routine basis.
Plus=2C knowing these specific numbers can help me put on the correct col
ors on my airspeed indicator.
Mike Welch
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| From: | william sullivan <williamtsullivan(at)att.net> |
- My problem with the bare spot on the repair is fixed.- I think it was
a clear oil spot, about the size of my thumbprint.- WD40 maybe?- I cle
aned it by scrubbing with thinner- R75-85- about 3 times, and let it dry th
oroughly.- The Poly Brush stuck the next try.- I smoothed it up with Po
ly Tak, and put a couple more coats of Poly Brush.- Thanks for the tips.
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- Windsor Locks, Ct.
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--FS 447
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Kolb-List Digest: 9 Msgs - 07/11/11 |
Maybe we could have someone who has a MkIII share with us their entire V
speed ranges (i.e.
rotation speed, climb out, typical cruise, 10 deg flap deployment, approach,
over the fence, etc, etc)
I would be interested in knowing what they do on a routine basis.
Plus, knowing these specific numbers can help me put on the correct colors
on my airspeed indicator.
Mike Welch
I have an original MKIII, SN: M3-011, first flown 15 March 1992.
My MKIII has 20 and 40 degrees of flaps.
Normally, I never use flaps for takeoff, unless I am operating off very
short, soft, rough, high weeds and grass, terrain.
Normally, I don't land without full flaps (40 degrees). The exception is
when I am dealing with high wind and turbulence, especially in a cross wind
condition.
Surprisingly, the MKIII does not fall out of the sky if full flaps are used.
However, the decent rate at slow speeds will be dramatic, much the same as a
normal rotary wing approach. The secret to flying the MKIII, with and
without flaps, is "fly the airplane at all times."
My MKIII generally flies about 40 mph, when it is ready to fly in a clean
configuration. I can get it off the ground at 30 mph by popping the flaps
to full flaps when the ASI needle is swinging through 30 mph.
Usually, my MKIII breaks and stalls with full flaps, in ground effect, as
the needle is swing through 30 mph.
I don't have any V numbers except stall and VNE (100 mph). I generally keep
the airspeed at above 40 mph indicated except short final. Normal
approaches are flown at 50 to 60 mph.
60 to 70 mph for full flap deployment speed sounds about right. I have
deployed them at 80 and above to get slowed down and lose altitude in a
hurry. An example would be flying over scattered and broken clouds, when
suddenly it looks like I am about to get trapped on top and have to get back
down through a small hole before it closes up, instead of turning around and
retracing my flight path and waste time and fuel.
60 mph is a good maneuver speed, usually what ever is comfortable when the
air gets "really" rough.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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| Subject: | ELT and intercom for sale |
| From: | "Richard Pike" <richard(at)bcchapel.org> |
I have an ACK ELT for sale, and a Flite Com 403 intercom for sale. The ELT has
no antenna with it, but is otherwise OK. The Flite Com was purchased at Oshkosh
in one of the aircraft flea markets but never used.
Wiring diagram for the intercom here: http://www.flightcom.net/pdf/403-403dManual.pdf
$50 for the ELT, $20 for the intercom, plus shipping.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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| From: | "Pat Ladd" <pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Kolb-List Digest: 9 Msgs - 07/11/11 |
<>
Hi there,
here goes. Lined up, one notch of flap...
Rotation. Around 40mph I would guess. I really have little idea,
You open the throttle slowly, push the stick forward to raise the tail,
kick her straight to correct for torque and by the time the throttle is
half open the damn thing leaps into the air.You certainly don`t have
time to look at the instruments. Push throttle to `Fully open`and...
Climb. Then you find yourself heading for the sky at 60 mph. Ease the
stick back until the speed drops to around 50/55. If you have a vario
fitted you will be going up at beteen 8/ 10 knots. Flaps up at around
500/600 feet
Level off around 1000 ft. throttle back to 65 ish and trim out.
Cruise at that speed. Maybe 70 or 75 if you are going places.. Trim to
suit.
Landing. Join circuit around 600 ft. Fly around 60 mph. unless you you
are setting up a long downwind leg when you can keep your speed up a bit
so that you are not a nuisance to faster a/c. Turn finals, speed back
to 50, drop one stage flap. Maintain 50 with the stick. If you are
overshooting drop in second stage flap or throttle back. If you are
undershooting, a bit more power.
You have the field made. Close the throttle. Careful to maintain speed
as the nose will come up a bit because of the high thrust line,. Ease
the stick back and fly at around 45mph over the hedge. Flare as the
speed drops and hold the nose up until she plops down on three points at
around 35 mph.
Those are the speeds ,roughly, that my ASI shows but I suspect it is a
liar by around 5 mph depending on her mood.
That is all a council of perfection at a `proper` airport. Because I
learned to fly in gliders `circuit patterns` are considered a bit
`posh` as are ASI `s and altimeters. I remember on about my 3 or 4th
flight the instructor threw his gloves across the instruments and said
`You don`t need those. Look out of the cockpit and listen to the wind`.
Consequently my landings tend to be of the `turn left at the big oak
tree` variety, and my farm strip with only half a dozen planes allows
me to get away with it.
Consequently you can give my comments as much weight as you think
appropriate.
Cheers
Pat
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| From: | Mike Welch <mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.com> |
| Subject: | Kolb flying and landing speeds |
(subject line changed to reflect the proper topic)
Pat and John=2C
Thanks. Very informative.
Mike Welch
PS. As a side note=2C I did my W & B calculations yesterday and came in at
31.1% of MkIII wing cord. Engine testing will have to wait on my return fr
om
Al & FL vacation starting this weekend.
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| From: | "Skygeezer60" <donmcdonald(at)xplornet.com> |
Hirth has apparantly removed the steel liners in their engines and used a nikasil
coating on the cylinder wall. Since the cylinder and piston are aluminum with
no steel liner between them, Hirth claims that their engines will not cold
shock. Getting rid of the liner and using a modern coating on the cylinder wall
has been done by snowmobile racers for ages. Is there anything to this claim
by Hirth? I would think that if it really was a true solution, Rotax would follow
suit.
DonM
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
I would think that if it really was a true solution, Rotax would follow
suit.
DonM
912 series engines use a coated aluminum cylinder. New cylinder wall to
piston clearance is .000 to .001".
Don't know about the two stroke Rotax.
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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| From: | <bob(at)bobbreeden.com> |
I am the friend of the builder of a Slingshot in always
hangared, new condition that I wish to sell to assist the family of the
builder.
Located in Virginia. Has airworthiness certificate. Cover by Jim Miller,
Polyfiber dealer. Jabiru 2200 engine, Sensenich prop, BRS rocket fired
chute, ECI electronic engine gauge. This aircraft is in excellent
condition.
Asking $18,900
Please email me at Bob(at)BobBreeden.com for more photos and details.
Since
this is a commercial post, I will make a donation to Matt Dralle to
support
this website if the Buyer is found here.
Thanks,
Bob
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| From: | "SS568" <david(at)PaulowniaTrees.com> |
Does the cold seizure possibility diminish as the engine gets more and more hours
of use. After maybe 50 , 100 hours.
Thanks,
David d
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| From: | "Mystic" <cheoah68(at)gmail.com> |
I'm a long time lurker who feels like he knows the group. I think you guys will
like this.
My new friend Shane I and met up by commenting on each other's utube vids. I found
out he was about 52m away and I flew over for a visit.
He's got a 503DC Phantom with a power fin prop. We taxied down together and turned
around. I then realized what genius Homer is.
You see this '87 5 rib 447 Culver propped Firestar is the only plane I've flown
and last Sunday was the first time I'd flown "with" anyone.
When I left my field earlier, I knew the alt/den was going to make my climb rate....modest.
I also had my cruise prop on which made following Shane across his
"backyard" difficult. Below 5000rpm my rotax begins to fall off the pipe and
run a little rough.
After watching the vid, I'm a little ashamed of how much I was monkeying with the
throttle to stay behind. I normally set the throttle,
go fly, and don't touch it until I'm coming down.lol
I made due by making S turns and crabbing. Next time we fly, I'll have my climb
prop on and we should be close.
After the flight he told me he was at max cruise to try to help me out.
I knew I had a sweet little flyer, but I now have a new appreciation for what a
true gift Homer has given us.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ez1V1igEtz0&feature=feedlik
John Tempest
87' Firestar
447 SCSI
Culver Woody(because they sound cooler)
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| Subject: | Re: SC flying video |
| From: | robert bean <slyck(at)frontiernet.net> |
John, you do nice camera work. Your other flix are good too.
BB
MkIII, suzuki
On 13, Jul 2011, at 12:22 PM, Mystic wrote:
>
> I'm a long time lurker who feels like he knows the group. I think you guys will
like this.
>
> My new friend Shane I and met up by commenting on each other's utube vids. I
found out he was about 52m away and I flew over for a visit.
>
> He's got a 503DC Phantom with a power fin prop. We taxied down together and turned
around. I then realized what genius Homer is.
>
> You see this '87 5 rib 447 Culver propped Firestar is the only plane I've flown
and last Sunday was the first time I'd flown "with" anyone.
>
> When I left my field earlier, I knew the alt/den was going to make my climb rate....modest.
I also had my cruise prop on which made following Shane across
his "backyard" difficult. Below 5000rpm my rotax begins to fall off the pipe and
run a little rough.
>
> After watching the vid, I'm a little ashamed of how much I was monkeying with
the throttle to stay behind. I normally set the throttle,
> go fly, and don't touch it until I'm coming down.lol
>
> I made due by making S turns and crabbing. Next time we fly, I'll have my climb
prop on and we should be close.
>
> After the flight he told me he was at max cruise to try to help me out.
>
> I knew I had a sweet little flyer, but I now have a new appreciation for what
a true gift Homer has given us.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ez1V1igEtz0&feature=feedlik
>
> John Tempest
> 87' Firestar
> 447 SCSI
> Culver Woody(because they sound cooler)
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=346203#346203
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| From: | "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: SC flying video |
You see this '87 5 rib 447 Culver propped Firestar is the only plane I've
flown and last Sunday was the first time I'd flown "with" anyone.
John Tempest
That brings back some memories in sight and sound.
My second aircraft I built and flew was a 1987 Kolb Firestar, 447 scsi, with
a Jim Culver 60X30 prop. Loved flying that little FS. ;-)
john h
mkIII
Titus, Alabama
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| Subject: | Re: SC flying video |
| From: | "Carolina Flyer" <joe.a.lawson(at)gmail.com> |
Hello John,
When you say that your in SC, does that mean that your possibly in South Carolina.....
If you are then we are neighbors.... I have a Hangar at the Union County
Airport, which I hanger a Kolb Firestar II and a Challenger II Long Wing......
Joe
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Kolb Firestar II
503 C-Box / RK400 Clutch
Phantom
503 B-Box
Location : Buffalo South Carolina
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| From: | WhiskeyVictor36(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: SC flying video |
John T
Very good video! Thanks for sharing. And a sweet little flyer it is.
Out-runs them all.
Bill Varnes
Original Kolb FireStar
Audubon NJ
Do Not Archive
In a message dated 7/13/2011 12:25:26 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
cheoah68(at)gmail.com writes:
I knew I had a sweet little flyer, but I now have a new appreciation for
what a true gift Homer has given us.
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| Subject: | Re: SC flying video |
| From: | "Richard Pike" <richard(at)bcchapel.org> |
Nice video. What sort of camera were you using? And what was the frame rate, and
did you have it mounted to your headset?
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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| From: | "Mystic" <cheoah68(at)gmail.com> |
I've been down that way a while back. Flew down to Barnwell for lunch. Good folks
down there, and mo-gas too!
I'm always looking for new places to go. I'll be in touch. -John
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| Subject: | Re: SC flying video |
| From: | "Mystic" <cheoah68(at)gmail.com> |
Yup that's South Carolina. I'm in Oconee county. Flying out of Tokeena airpark.
Run by a retired Colonel. And the hanger fees are cica 1960. You just have to
wait for someone to die before you can get in.
I visit an airpark in Williamston called Oakhill often, looks to be halfway to
your field. Maybe we could get together sometime over in Union.
My camera is a Kodak playsport, 29 frames per sec. It's mounted to the front of
my motorcycle helmet. My sister bought it for my kayaking trips (waterproof),
but it's a nice all-rounder.
-John Tempest
Firestar 1
447
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| From: | "gotime242" <dylanshine(at)gmail.com> |
I bought my kolb at trenton flyers!
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| Subject: | Re: SC flying video |
| From: | "Carolina Flyer" <joe.a.lawson(at)gmail.com> |
John,
I would love to meet up with you and the other guy in your video that had the Phantom........
I had a Phantom not long ago, very nice Ultralight, but at the
time I had problems storing it.... Presently I am working on my Kolb. I am making
Mods to the Cage to handle the extra Power of a Rotax 670 that will replace
my 503.... I have talked to the Kolb Factory and I am adding support where they
said it is needed.... I am sure many will think that the 670 is over kill,
but if it is more power than I need I can put the 503 right back on... The Cage
Mod is adding very little weight...
I know one Guy down there in Oconee County that I used to work with when I worked
Construction.... He was a real Character, his name is Joey Floyd.... I used
to work at Clemson alot, and that was a long Drive, I couldn't afford the cost
of Gas to do that anymore..... Anyway keep in touch
I just bought a small Sony Camcorder off of eBay that I hope will work as good
as yours work. A Sky-Diver I met uses one on his Helmet and he said it was a
good one, a HDR-CX100, and it records internally 8GB, on to a Memory Stick up
to 32 GB. I had been using a JVC Hard Drive Camcorder but is is a little on the
big size compared to this little Sony Cam........ Joe
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Kolb Firestar II
503 C-Box / RK400
Challenger II
503 Tall Drive
Location : Buffalo South Carolina
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| From: | "Carolina Flyer" <joe.a.lawson(at)gmail.com> |
Hey Shack,
I have a Friend that learned how to fly down there with the Trenton Flyers many
years ago. He had a Kolb Fire Fly, but I sold it for him a few Months ago, and
he still has a Rans S-12 that he flies once in a while... Maybe him and I can
come down there soon......
He is an Older Gentleman and he doesn't Fly much anymore. He does ride a Motorcycle
every week, and I think he thinks the Motorcycle is a little Safer........
I have a Honda Gold Wing I never ride because I have worried that a Deer might
just jump out in front of me.... I have had a near miss before......... I never
worry about a Deer jumping out in front of me up in the Sky, lol........Joe
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Kolb Firestar II
503 C-Box / RK400
Soon to have a
Rotax 670 DCDI
with a C-Box and
RK 400 Clutch
Challenger II
503 Tall Drive
Location : Buffalo South Carolina
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| From: | "Carolina Flyer" <joe.a.lawson(at)gmail.com> |
Hey Shack,
I just got off the phone with my Friend, and he told me that you knew each other....
His name is Frank... Anyway we will probably visit the Trenton Flyer's soon.....
It would be a good idea to make sure that it is when you will be there........
Joe
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Kolb Firestar II
503 C-Box / RK400
Soon to have a
Rotax 670 DCDI
with a C-Box and
RK 400 Clutch
Challenger II
503 Tall Drive
Location : Buffalo South Carolina
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| Subject: | Re: SC flying video |
| From: | "Mystic" <cheoah68(at)gmail.com> |
Joe,
I went to high school with Joey Floyd. A character indeed.
I'm not familar with the 670, I assume it's in line power wise with the 582? Is
it water cooled?
While I would like to get more cruise speed for better cross country trips, I don't
want to do it at the expense of increased fuel use. (besides a new motor
is way out of my budget) I'd like to look into streamlining my wing struts, and
maybe going with smaller/skinny-er tires.
I'm sure Shane (Phantom pilot) would like to get together, he's actually alot closer
to you than I am.
We'll have to start planning a fly in sometime soon.
John Tempest
Firestar1
447
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| Subject: | Re: SC flying video |
| From: | "Mystic" <cheoah68(at)gmail.com> |
If Homer could have know that I was worried about keeping up with that 503 powered
Phantom with that big shiney composite prop, he'd have chuckled. I'm sure.
John Tempest
Firestar 1 447
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| Subject: | Re: SC flying video |
| From: | "Carolina Flyer" <joe.a.lawson(at)gmail.com> |
Hey John T.
The 670 is the Big Brother to the 618, Water Cooled, Rave Valves, and it has a
Rotatory Valve like the 582 has... The HP depends on what Exhaust you use.....
If you use the 582 Exhaust you can get over 70 HP, but if you use a 618 Exhaust
you can push it up around 100 HP... There is a Guy from around Charlotte that
has a 670 turning a 72" Prop on a Phantom, This Guy even does Outside Loops,
and it is unbelievable..... He has several video's on You Tube... Just Search
(Super Phantom Ultralight)... My 670 has places for two Trigger Coils so I will
make it Dual Ignition.... We have found a company that has copied the 618
Exhaust and we can have them made for a reasonable price........ The Beauty of
this set-up is that you can cruise at a much lower RPM, and use less gas and
make less noise, and of course your putting less stress on the Engine.... Here
is a Picture of a 670 on a Quicksilver that a friend of mine has... His name
is Rotax Rick, and he sells alot of these Engines..... He has some Tundra Tires
that I sell on Barnstormers on his Quicksilver........ Joe
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Kolb Firestar II
503 C-Box / RK400
Soon to have a
Rotax 670 DCDI
with a C-Box and
RK 400 Clutch
Challenger II
503 Tall Drive
Location : Buffalo South Carolina
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| From: | robert bean <slyck(at)frontiernet.net> |
| Subject: | Fwd: super phantom |
for those who didn't find the links, here's the crazy phantom guy:
BB
MkIII, suzuki
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| From: | Phil <phactor9(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Firefly: new build? |
I'm planning my future Firefly build (within a year, hopefully) and wonder
if anyone knows:
1. What is the weight of a Firefly newly assembled from the two kits, sans
instruments, lighting, covering and engine?
2. What is the minimum HP required for a "safe-feeling" climb rate and 150'
liftoff with a 200lb pilot? Will 30HP do it (CRE MZ-34 or Simonini Mini 2S
)? What about 33HP / 36HP (Simonini Mini 2 Evo or Mini 3)?
3. What advantages does a 2-blade ground-adjustable prop have over 3-blades
? My previous Twinstar of 22 years ago had the 66" wooden 2-blade. So far I
've been told "less vibration".
4. How much does the nose cone weigh and what is it made of? As you can see
, my Twinstar had no nose, canopy or windshield (pic taken in 1988):
http://phactor.com/i/FredFlintstoneBrakes.jpg
Thx!
Phil H.
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| Subject: | Re: SC flying video |
| From: | "Mystic" <cheoah68(at)gmail.com> |
Wow! With a set up like that, you should have power to spare. I'm sure it will
make flying two up, or carrying a load much safer/practical. I'm a little skeptical
about the "use less gas turning less rpm", but would love to be proved wrong.
Do let us know what kind of performance and economy you achieve with this
set up.
The Phantom aircraft does seem to be a very rugged ship. Although I didn't catch
him on camera during our flight, Shane does some very neat barrel rolls, and
vertical stalls in his Phantom. He told me my Firestar could do it no problem,
but he has a chute, I do not.
I'm content with my setup for now. I'm using less gas (3.6GPH) and cruising a little
faster (60-65mph at 5500rpm) than my friend's set up, and out climb him
like he's carrying an A-bomb. My little 447 seems to be a solid work horse, and
I like only having to fiddle with one carb.
I'd like to one day consider a V-twin from Valley Eng. I know Jimmy Young has been
down that road and had little success, but I suspect my plane weighs a good
bit less than a Firestar 2 (I'm 325lbs empty), and I've heard that with revised
camshaft and pistons, they've found 50 hp in that little 4 stroke.
However, with the girls ready to go school shopping, and birthdays lining up, and
a bathroom to remodel, it looks like the 447 will be flying for a long while.
I also don't have the intrepid spirit Jimmy does to be the first to have a
go at something like that. I'll wait to get some feedback on this "hotrod" V-twin.
John Tempest
Firestar 1
447
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| Subject: | Re: SC flying video |
| From: | "Richard Pike" <richard(at)bcchapel.org> |
Mystic wrote:
> I'm a little skeptical about the "use less gas turning less rpm", but would
love to be proved wrong. Do let us know what kind of performance and economy you
achieve with this set up.
>
> John Tempest
> Firestar 1
> 447
It's true. A bigger engine loafing uses less fuel than a smaller engine wound out.
When I flew to Oshkosh along with my two buds flying Maxair Drifters, we were
flying around 55 mph (Drifter cruise speed) and I was consistently getting
better fuel economy with the 532 loafing at 5,000 - 5,200 than the single carb
503's were getting at their 5,800 cruise. Lets the engine last longer too. The
582 on the Firestar II ought to outlast me... it only gets faster than 5,000
rpm during takeoff or climbouts, the rest of the time it is loafing along below
5,000. And using around 3 gph.
Can you post a picture of the camera mount that you have on your motorcycle helmet?
I just got a used Kodak ZI8, (which is almost identical to your Playsport)
and I would rather see how you mounted yours than try and reinvent the wheel.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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| From: | zeprep251(at)aol.com |
Listers,Anyone in the group is welcome.If you need more specific info,let
me know.We are about 4 miles WSW of Goodyear airship operations at Wingfoot
lake,big hanger,Goodyear colors. Gary Aman Mk3C Jabiru 2200A.
Saturday, AUGUST 6: Mayfield Airport North Coast Lite Flyers annual
picnic and Fly-Drive in. We plan to eat at about 4 PM and there will be Ho
t Dogs, Hamburgers, Cold Drinks, and Table service provided by the club. If
you are driving in, please bring a covered dish. We always have lots of fo
od. Bring anyone interested in Light Sport Aircraft or Ultralights, as the
y will have a good time.
Rain or Shine. Grass runway is difficult to see unless you are lined up wit
h it. Contact airboss control on 123.475 if lost. Pattern is flown NORTH of
the runway only. Stay low as you are under CAK airspace. Mayfield is shown
on Cleveland area charts and is located just south of Akron Fulton Airport
and just south of Killian Road. 2569 Myersville Rd.Call Mike at: 330-414-
5272 if you are lost or just need more info.
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| From: | zeprep251(at)aol.com |
List,
May Field is 1D4,find it on Airnav for a good picture and location on chart
.Our field is only shown on Cleveland terminal chart.way too much clutter o
n the sectional.
G.Aman MK3C
-----Original Message-----
From: zeprep251 <zeprep251(at)aol.com>
Sent: Sat, Jul 16, 2011 7:14 pm
Subject: Kolb-List:
Listers,Anyone in the group is welcome.If you need more specific info,let
me know.We are about 4 miles WSW of Goodyear airship operations at Wingfoot
lake,big hanger,Goodyear colors. Gary Aman Mk3C Jabiru 2200A.
Saturday, AUGUST 6: Mayfield Airport North Coast Lite Flyers annual
picnic and Fly-Drive in. We plan to eat at about 4 PM and there will be Ho
t Dogs, Hamburgers, Cold Drinks, and Table service provided by the club. If
you are driving in, please bring a covered dish. We always have lots of fo
od. Bring anyone interested in Light Sport Aircraft or Ultralights, as the
y will have a good time.
Rain or Shine. Grass runway is difficult to see unless you are lined up wit
h it. Contact airboss control on 123.475 if lost. Pattern is flown NORTH of
the runway only. Stay low as you are under CAK airspace. Mayfield is shown
on Cleveland area charts and is located just south of Akron Fulton Airport
and just south of Killian Road. 2569 Myersville Rd.Call Mike at: 330-414-
5272 if you are lost or just need more info.
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| Subject: | Re: Firefly: new build? |
| From: | "kolbaircraft" <customersupport(at)tnkolbaircraft.com> |
Phil
The empty weight of the Fire Fly will be 254lbs if built according to the plans.
Kolb always ran the 447 Rotax on the Fire Fly. I would stay with close to 40 HP.
I would recommend the 3 blade IVO ground adjustable prop on the Fire Fly.
The weight of the nose cone could vary a bit as they are hand laid glass.
Travis
Kolb CO.
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| From: | "Thom Riddle" <riddletr(at)gmail.com> |
I got an early start this morning and took a few videos.
Take-off at 9G0 at 6:20AM - length 0:59
http://www.youtube.com/user/thomriddle?feature=mhee#p/a/u/2/8SgkzFTFSUE
Wind Farm SE of Buffalo, NY - length 4:25
http://www.youtube.com/user/thomriddle?feature=mhee#p/a/u/1/Hsiw9-lDQww
Attica State Prison, NY - length 2:26
http://www.youtube.com/user/thomriddle?feature=mhee#p/a/u/0/jJak7r8Xahg
Unfortunately, there is a good bit of reflection in the canopy/windscreen. How
bad depends on where the sun is coming from. In every case the sun is pretty low
as all were taken before 7:30 AM. At least I got the iphone mount in a much
better location than on previous videos I posted.
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Thom Riddle
Buffalo, NY (9G0)
Kolb Slingshot SS-021
Jabiru 2200A #1574
Tennessee Prop 64x32
Truth is what stands the test of experience.
- Albert Einstein
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| Subject: | an interesting evening at the Rockhouse |
| From: | Larry Cottrell <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com> |
http://vimeo.com/26517093
One of the interesting features of the Desert is the seasonal lightening
storms.
Larry
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| From: | william sullivan <williamtsullivan(at)att.net> |
| Subject: | Re: morning videos |
- Nice videos.- Did you notice any unusual turbulance over the wind far
m?
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livan
--- On Sun, 7/17/11, Thom Riddle wrote:
From: Thom Riddle <riddletr(at)gmail.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: morning videos
Date: Sunday, July 17, 2011, 8:57 AM
I got an early start this morning and took a few videos.
Take-off at 9G0- at 6:20AM - length 0:59
http://www.youtube.com/user/thomriddle?feature=mhee#p/a/u/2/8SgkzFTFSUE
Wind Farm SE of Buffalo, NY - length 4:25
http://www.youtube.com/user/thomriddle?feature=mhee#p/a/u/1/Hsiw9-lDQww
Attica State Prison, NY - length 2:26
http://www.youtube.com/user/thomriddle?feature=mhee#p/a/u/0/jJak7r8Xahg
Unfortunately, there is a good bit of reflection in the canopy/windscreen.
How bad depends on where the sun is coming from. In every case the sun is p
retty low as all were taken before 7:30 AM. At least I got the iphone mount
in a much better location than on previous videos I posted.
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Thom Riddle
Buffalo, NY (9G0)
Kolb Slingshot SS-021
Jabiru 2200A #1574
Tennessee Prop 64x32
Truth is what stands the test of experience.
- Albert Einstein
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| Subject: | Re: morning videos |
| From: | "Thom Riddle" <riddletr(at)gmail.com> |
"Did you notice any unusual turbulance over the wind farm?"
William,
None at all. Of course I did not get within 500' of the wind turbines and for the
most part I was above them, not down wind from them at their level.
Re: Wind tubines
I've read a lot of anti-wind-turbine hype and some say that they are noisy. A few
weeks ago, I drove to this area and parked my car between two of them close
by. I got out of the car and the only sound I heard were birds chirping. So much
for them being noisy and being dangerous to birds.
This particular wind farm is the closest one to Buffalo (not counting the 7-8 turbines
on the lake-front) but there are many more further SE of Buffalo. I would
guess there are a few hundred of them in this part of western NY and more
coming.
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Thom Riddle
Buffalo, NY (9G0)
Kolb Slingshot SS-021
Jabiru 2200A #1574
Tennessee Prop 64x32
Truth is what stands the test of experience.
- Albert Einstein
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| Subject: | Re: morning videos |
| From: | "Dennis Thate" <retroman(at)frontier.com> |
Thom,
Nice videos, "not in my back yard" we have hundreds of wind generators just over
the next hill and far away from my runway.
Fly Safe
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Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents
the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern
Faith is believing what you know ain't so - Mark Twain
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| Subject: | Re: an interesting evening at the Rockhouse |
| From: | "Dennis Thate" <retroman(at)frontier.com> |
lcottrell
Beautiful remote Countryside.
How far away is the nearest grocery store? [Wink]
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Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents
the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern
Faith is believing what you know ain't so - Mark Twain
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| From: | "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart(at)onlyinternet.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Firefly: new build? |
Date: Fri, 15 Jul 2011 17:47:10 -0700 (PDT)
From: Phil <phactor9(at)yahoo.com>
>1. What is the weight of a Firefly newly assembled from the two kits, sans
>instruments, lighting, covering and
>engine?
Rotax 447 (79 hrs) -> 248 pounds
Simonini Victor 1+ (187 hrs) -> 252 pounds
MZ 34 (48 min) -> 213 pounds
>2. What is the minimum HP required for a "safe-feeling" climb rate and 150'
>liftoff with a 200lb pilot? Will 30HP do it (CRE MZ-34 or Simonini Mini 2S)?
>What about 33HP / 36HP (Simonini Mini 2 Evo or Mini 3)?
>From my flight log: "November 8, 2010 - Flight 749, 18 minutes - 268:13 tt,
MZ 00:48. Just flew around the airport, 52 inch high pitch IVO mounted, top
rpm was 5,700 or 24 hp. Engine running rich at 1,150 degrees F EGT. Ran
the engine wide open for most of the flight. Burned 0.8 gallons with an
average burn rate of 3.0 gph. Conditions were perfect for a test flight.
New runway is very smooth, long and wide. Very comfortable quiet flight.
Climb out varied between 300 to 500 fpm. Wide open level flight at 5,700
rpm gave 60 mph, Throttled back to 5,000 rpm and the FireFly could maintain
level flight with no problem."
This flight convinced me to boost the belt reduction ratio from 2.34 up to
2.60. One thing I would like to mention here. With this engine running
flat out, I experienced the smoothest and quietest powered flight in the
FireFly. The double engine isolation mounting may be part of the reason.
There was no straining or twitching of the airframe while in flight.
I have just completed the wing brace repairs and will be mounting the new
belt reduction pulley. This may take a few days. The reducer tightening
pivots on a large 20, or so threaded boss. I expect I will have to make
shims to ensure good belt to pulley alignment when the belt is under working
tension.
>3. What advantages does a 2-blade ground-adjustable prop have over 3-blades?
>My previous Twinstar of 22 years ago had the 66" wooden 2-blade. So far I've
>been told "less vibration".
I have always used IVO propellers and have run two and three blade
propellers. Three blade IVO was a little quieter than the two blade. I do
not recommend the ultralight IVO propeller, as it appears to be a much less
efficient propeller than the medium IVO for the 55 - 60 mph range.
With the MZ 34 I flew both the ultralight and medium propellers cut close to
the same size and the medium IVO won hands down. The ultralight IVO could
be pitch adjusted to get the MZ 34 up to 6,300 rpm (27hp), but the FireFly
cruise speed was about 40 mph. As shown above, the over pitched medium IVO
adsorbing 24hp pushed the FireFly right along.
Off to the airport.
Jack B. Hart FF004
Winchester, IN
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| Subject: | Kolb get-togethers |
| From: | "Ozarkflyer" <lragan(at)hotmail.com> |
I've read several threads regarding a get-together in Monument Valley, but are
there any other Kolb gatherings anywhere? Airventure and Sun n Fun don't count.
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| From: | "Watkinsdw" <david.watkins0(at)gmail.com> |
Hi, Kolbers,
Thought you might enjoy this video shot by a friend yesterday as a flight of five
flew from Airglades (2IS) in Clewiston, Florida to Labelle (X14). There were
two Kolbs, a Flyboy, (Czech plane) and two Drifters. The yellow MKIII is "Fat
Albert," one of the original Kolb factory demo's, flown by Peter Volum, who
has owned her for 12 years. Mine, the red and yellow MKIII was built by Stephen
Green, and I've owned her for 2.5 happy years.
The two drifters are based at Airglades, and are flown by two long-time ultralighters,
Andy and Paul.
The Flyboy, and Fat Albert are based at "Richards", a private grass strip NE of
Homestead General (X51.)
A great day was had by all, as we checked out some open land that Andy is thinking
of developing as a fly-in camping retreat near Labelle.
You can see that this part of South Florida has just received some much needed
rain, after a severe drought this spring. They got 5 inches in about 24 hours.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYfAUt8MlqE
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| Subject: | Re: Florida Video |
| From: | "Watkinsdw" <david.watkins0(at)gmail.com> |
Oops, sorry, the Czech plane is a "Skyboy," not a "Flyboy," but at 100kts cruise,
that's what it does!
Dave
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| Subject: | Re: morning videos |
| From: | russ kinne <russkinne(at)mac.com> |
FWIW --wind generators CAN be noisy. One was put in at Cuttyhunk, another on Block
Island; both were removed because they made too much noise. This is sometimes
because they'll start up whenever a wind rises, maybe at 3AM.
Also, they DO kill birds, whether you see bodies or not. Remember many birds migrate
at night.
There just ain't no free lunch.
Russ K
On Jul 17, 2011, at 10:13 AM, Dennis Thate wrote:
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> Thom,
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> Nice videos, "not in my back yard" we have hundreds of wind generators just
over the next hill and far away from my runway.
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> Fly Safe
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the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern
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> Faith is believing what you know ain't so - Mark Twain
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| Subject: | Re: Florida Video |
| From: | "gotime242" <dylanshine(at)gmail.com> |
Wow, awesome. I fly my Firestar II out of lantana and usually just go as far as
F45, but id love to venture off into florida a little bit more...
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| Subject: | Re: morning videos |
| From: | Ellery Batchelder Jr <elleryweld(at)aol.com> |
it was real noisy I thought, oh my mistake that was kolb noise
Ellery Batchelder Jr.
-----Original Message-----
From: Thom Riddle <riddletr(at)gmail.com>
Sent: Sun, Jul 17, 2011 9:47 am
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: morning videos
"Did you notice any unusual turbulance over the wind farm?"
William,
None at all. Of course I did not get within 500' of the wind turbines and
for
he most part I was above them, not down wind from them at their level.
Re: Wind tubines
've read a lot of anti-wind-turbine hype and some say that they are noisy.
A
ew weeks ago, I drove to this area and parked my car between two of them
close
y. I got out of the car and the only sound I heard were birds chirping. So
much
or them being noisy and being dangerous to birds.
This particular wind farm is the closest one to Buffalo (not counting the
7-8
urbines on the lake-front) but there are many more further SE of Buffalo.
I
ould guess there are a few hundred of them in this part of western NY and
more
oming.
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hom Riddle
uffalo, NY (9G0)
olb Slingshot SS-021
abiru 2200A #1574
ennessee Prop 64x32
Truth is what stands the test of experience.
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| Subject: | Re: Florida Video |
| From: | "Watkinsdw" <david.watkins0(at)gmail.com> |
Let's plan to meet at Lantana and go some place-
Okeechobee or Airglades. Fun to watch the skydivers there and get a hamburger...
954-608-5423.
Dave
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| From: | "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: an interesting evening at the Rockhouse |
The nearest " Wally world" is 118 miles, :-)
Larry
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To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
Sent: Sunday, July 17, 2011 8:21 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: an interesting evening at the Rockhouse
lcottrell
Beautiful remote Countryside.
How far away is the nearest grocery store? [Wink]
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| From: | Herb <herbgh(at)nctc.com> |
| Subject: | Re: an interesting evening at the Rockhouse |
>There ain't no civilization at Wally World!! Herb
>
>The nearest " Wally world" is 118 miles, :-)
>Larry
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| Subject: | Sat & Sun fly-ins |
| From: | zeprep251(at)aol.com |
Finally got 2or3 nice days in a row on a weekend to boot.Private strip acr
oss the road from the Island Creek Grill.Akron muni, KAKR had a club spons
ored fly-in the same day.Not much happening there.Four of us flew in and d
oubled the number of aircraft parked by the breakfast hanger.
Sunday Eaa chapter at Marlboro pancake breakfast,only 10minutes from 1D4.Ni
ce old "Pete".
G.Aman MK3C
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| From: | william sullivan <williamtsullivan(at)att.net> |
| Subject: | Aileron gap seal |
--I am about to do the aileron/wing gap seal on my original Firestar.
- I intend to use 4" wide Stits tape in the "S" pattern.- Should I go f
rom the top of the wing to the bottom of the aileron, or vice versa?- Is
this part really necessary?- I have seen Kolbs without it.- I have also
seen them done with bookbinding tape.- Also, what about the gap from the
horizontal stabilizer to the elevator, and the vertical stabilizer to the
rudder?- Comments?
-
-------------------------
-------------------- Bill Sullivan
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-------------------- Windsor Locks,
Ct.
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-------------------- FS 447
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| Subject: | Re: Aileron gap seal |
| From: | "Dennis Thate" <retroman(at)frontier.com> |
I too am looking into this ; Here is what I've found so far...hope other Kolbers
will chime in !
"The purpose of a Gap Seal is to create a pressure barrier between the high pressure
air on the bottom of the wing and the low pressure air on the top of the
wing. The diagram shows how the air moves upward through the gaps, thus causing
significant drag and reduced control authority.
Another benefit to a Knots 2U Gap Seal is that it smoothes the air traveling along
the bottom of the wing, thus further improving airflow. The effects of a good
Gap Seal kit will be: "
4 mph increased cruise speed
50-100 fpm improved rate of climb
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| Subject: | Re: Aileron gap seal |
| From: | "Richard Pike" <richard(at)bcchapel.org> |
I would go from the bottom of the wing to the top of the aileron in hopes that
it might suck out some of the junk that will inevitably get caught in the crack.
Aside from that, I can't think of a good reason why one way or the other would
be better, but maybe somebody else can.
I noticed an improvement in control authority when I gap sealed the elevator to
the stab on the MKIII, didn't do the rudder. I used Office Depot premium packing
tape for that, but first laid a strip of Scotch tape along the middle on the
sticky side of the wide tape so that it wouldn't collect dirt. That was several
years ago, still holding but due to be replaced.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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| Subject: | Re: Aileron gap seal |
| From: | Ellery Batchelder Jr <elleryweld(at)aol.com> |
from the top of the wing to the bottom side of the aileron works best and
no need to do the tail area
Ellery Batchelder Jr.
-----Original Message-----
From: william sullivan <williamtsullivan(at)att.net>
Sent: Mon, Jul 18, 2011 11:31 am
Subject: Kolb-List: Aileron gap seal
I am about to do the aileron/wing gap seal on my original Firestar. I
intend to use 4" wide Stits tape in the "S" pattern. Should I go from th
e top of the wing to the bottom of the aileron, or vice versa? Is this pa
rt really necessary? I have seen Kolbs without it. I have also seen them
done with bookbinding tape. Also, what about the gap from the horizontal
stabilizer to the elevator, and the vertical stabilizer to the rudder?
Comments?
Bill Sullivan
Windsor Locks, Ct.
FS 447
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| Subject: | Re: spring to hold doors open |
| From: | Ellery Batchelder Jr <elleryweld(at)aol.com> |
I have been looking for a link for the little springy things that hold a
light door open like a kolb door can anyone help me out here ?
Ellery Batchelder Jr.
Building MK3Xtra
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| Subject: | Re: Aileron gap seal |
| From: | "Richard Pike" <richard(at)bcchapel.org> |
elleryweld(at)aol.com wrote:
> from the top of the wing to the bottom side of the aileron works best and no
need to do the tail area
> Ellery Batchelder Jr.
> --
Ok, I'll assume that the Firestar doesn't have the problems with elevator authority
that the MKIII does with 2 big'uns on board, and doesn't need an elevator/stabilizer
gap seal, but why does the aileron gap seal work better from the top
of the wing to the bottom of the ailerons? Not being contentious, just curious.
Richard Pike
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| Subject: | Re: spring to hold doors open |
| From: | Mike Welch <mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.com> |
Ellery,
Rick G shared with the Kolb list an outfit that sold those things at REALL
Y good prices. I'll see if I can find his email, otherwise, he's the guy to
get ahold of.
Mike Welch
>
> I have been looking for a link for the little springy things that hold a l
ight door open like a kolb door can anyone help me out here ?
>
>
>
> Ellery Batchelder Jr.
>
> Building MK3Xtra
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: spring to hold doors open |
| From: | "Ozarkflyer" <lragan(at)hotmail.com> |
A good marine/boating supply company will have them. I think I bought mine from
West Marine and they are used to hold hatches, live-well doors, etc. open.
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| Subject: | Re: spring to hold doors open |
| From: | "Rex Rodebush" <jrrodebush(at)gmail.com> |
Ellery,
Check out www.moonlitemarine.com. Look under hatch holders. I have one on each door and they work great. I think I bought mine through an industrial supply catalog but I don't remember which one.
Rex
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| Subject: | Re: Aileron gap seal |
| From: | Ellery Batchelder Jr <elleryweld(at)aol.com> |
its just easier to install that way so it wont cause the gap seal to get
stretched tight during full deflection because the hinge point is closer
to the bottom then it is to the top I never had them on my firestar tail
area and I never had them on my MK3C tail area but it is not written in
stone you have to do it this way its just what worked best for me
Ellery Batchelder Jr.
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Sent: Mon, Jul 18, 2011 6:21 pm
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Aileron gap seal
lleryweld(at)aol.com wrote:
from the top of the wing to the bottom side of the aileron works best and
no
eed to do the tail area
Ellery Batchelder Jr.
--
k, I'll assume that the Firestar doesn't have the problems with elevator
uthority that the MKIII does with 2 big'uns on board, and doesn't need an
levator/stabilizer gap seal, but why does the aileron gap seal work better
from
he top of the wing to the bottom of the ailerons? Not being contentious,
just
urious.
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| Subject: | Re: spring to hold doors open |
| From: | Ellery Batchelder Jr <elleryweld(at)aol.com> |
REX thank you that is just what I have been looking for
Ellery Batchelder Jr.
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Sent: Mon, Jul 18, 2011 7:15 pm
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: spring to hold doors open
Ellery,
Check out www.moonlitemarine.com. Look under hatch holders. I have one
on each
oor and they work great. I think I bought mine through an industrial supp
ly
atalog but I don't remember which one.
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| Subject: | Re: Aileron gap seal |
| From: | Ellery Batchelder Jr <elleryweld(at)aol.com> |
correction you don't have to do it this way
Ellery Batchelder Jr.
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Sent: Mon, Jul 18, 2011 8:03 pm
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: Aileron gap seal
its just easier to install that way so it wont cause the gap seal to get
stretched tight during full deflection because the hinge point is closer
to the bottom then it is to the top I never had them on my firestar tail
area and I never had them on my MK3C tail area but it is not written in
stone you have to do it this way its just what worked best for me
Ellery Batchelder Jr.
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From: Richard Pike <richard(at)bcchapel.org>
Sent: Mon, Jul 18, 2011 6:21 pm
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: Aileron gap seal
lleryweld(at)aol.com wrote:
from the top of the wing to the bottom side of the aileron works best and
no
eed to do the tail area
Ellery Batchelder Jr.
--
k, I'll assume that the Firestar doesn't have the problems with elevator
uthority that the MKIII does with 2 big'uns on board, and doesn't need an
levator/stabilizer gap seal, but why does the aileron gap seal work better
from
he top of the wing to the bottom of the ailerons? Not being contentious,
just
urious.
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| Subject: | Re: spring to hold doors open |
| From: | Richard Girard <aslsa.rng(at)gmail.com> |
Ellery, Surplus Center:
https://www.surpluscenter.com/sort.asp?catname=misc&keyword=XG11
Rick Girard
On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 5:14 PM, Ellery Batchelder Jr wrote:
>
> I have been looking for a link for the little springy things that hold a
> light door open like a kolb door can anyone help me out here ?
>
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> *Ellery Batchelder Jr.*
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Thanks, Homer GBYM
It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy.
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| Subject: | Re: Kolb get-togethers |
| From: | "John Bickham" <gearbender(at)bellsouth.net> |
Check the post re gathering at Nauga Field Nov 11,12,,13.
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?t=82839
Ain't too fer from Mountain View, AR. I've fueled there. Nauga Field is about
20 NM north Baton Rouge, LA.
So far three Kolbs and one Highlander committed to attending.
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Thanks too much,
John Bickham
Mark III-C w/ 912UL
St. Francisville, LA
I know many pilots and a few true aviators. There is a distinct difference that
I have the greatest respect for.
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| Subject: | Re: anybody in Louisiana |
| From: | "John Bickham" <gearbender(at)bellsouth.net> |
Gonna give this one more try.
TRAVIS - would like to help with your Kolb ???'s. Just don't know how to get in
touch with you.
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Thanks too much,
John Bickham
Mark III-C w/ 912UL
St. Francisville, LA
I know many pilots and a few true aviators. There is a distinct difference that
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| Subject: | Birds of a Feather |
| From: | "Dennis Thate" <retroman(at)frontier.com> |
http://www.flixxy.com/parahawking-over-nepal.htm
Reminds of the film "Fly Away Home"
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| Subject: | Re: Aileron gap seal |
| From: | "Bill Long" <blong6826(at)sbcglobal.net> |
I have a firefly and I weigh 200lb sometimes had the stick in my lap when I landed.
Then I put a gap seal on the elevator and its way better. Used Menards clear
tape overlapped about 3/4 of a inch to fill the gap.
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| From: | Bob Green <bgreen(at)bimi.org> |
| Subject: | RE: Kolb-List Digest: 4 Msgs - 07/19/11 |
John B.
Unless providentially hindered I plan to make it for the Nauga Field gathering.
Will be driving since I am not flying the MKIIIX yet... or maybe I will be
November???
Hope to see you all.
Bob Green
N830PB
MKIIIX GPAS VW with re-drive.
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| Subject: | Mk IIIC in Kansas |
| From: | Richard Girard <aslsa.rng(at)gmail.com> |
I don't suppose there are any lurkers who are Mk IIIC builders in Kansas or
Oklahoma, are there? Preferably with an uncovered fuselage weldment so I can
take lots of measurements. Mine took a good twist when the left main gear
was pulled off and I have no idea how far the damage spread through the
truss.
Rick Girard
--
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Mk IIIC
Thanks, Homer GBYM
It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy.
- Groucho Marx
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| From: | "tkben002" <tkben002(at)bellsouth.net> |
Hello all,
I recently purchased the kolbra with the jabiru 2200 that was on barnstormers.
This is my first plane purchase. I have not flown the a/c yet as I as still
going over the entire plane. I have a weight and balance question.
According the the weight and balance sheet the a/c has a ew of 580.6 and a moment
of 17899.9. I weigh in around 225-230. With me in the plane and no fuel I
am forward of the forward cg limit of 16" to 22.4". When I add any passenger
weight it only gets worse.(i do understand why) Is this normal for other Kolbra
owners? I guess the best was to handle this is to loose weight but that is
kinda hard to do. I thought about a heavier tailwheel but do not know where
to start. Maybe adding lead to the tail. any suggestions.
Thanks,
Travis
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| From: | Mike Welch <mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.com> |
| Subject: | Mk IIIC in Kansas |
Rick=2C Although I'm not in Kansas anymore=2C (same as Dorothy & ToTo)=2C
I wouldn't mind making dozens of measurementsand LOTs of pictures for you
=2C if you want. Just let me know. I'm in Tampa=2C though=2C on a mini-v
acation. We're headed back home on Saturday/Sunday. If you could wait unt
ilMonday=2C I'll get ya all the info you'll need. Mike Welch(PS. For the r
ecord....none of "that" area of my fuselage is altered to be an Xtra....in
other words=2C it's identical toyours..just straighter.)
Date: Wed=2C 20 Jul 2011 10:14:24 -0500
Subject: Kolb-List: Mk IIIC in Kansas
From: aslsa.rng(at)gmail.com
I don't suppose there are any lurkers who are Mk IIIC builders in Kansas or
Oklahoma=2C are there? Preferably with an uncovered fuselage weldment so I
can take lots of measurements. Mine took a good twist when the left main g
ear was pulled off and I have no idea how far the damage spread through the
truss.
Rick Girard
--
Zulu DeltaMk IIICThanks=2C Homer GBYM
It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy.
- Groucho Marx
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| From: | "b young" <by0ung(at)q.com> |
According the the weight and balance sheet the a/c has a ew of 580.6 and a
moment of 17899.9. I weigh in around 225-230.
Travis
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
travis, this is not quite enough information,,,, at least for me...
17899.9/580.6= 30.83 i am guessing this is the cg,,,,,, empty or with
you on board? ok i am assuming the datum for cg calculations is the
leading edge of the wing, at what % of wing chord does 30.83 represent?
what is the arm with you in the pilot seat? and how far does that change
the cg with you in the plane? and again with a passenger?
assuming the first numbers is the plane empty,,, in order to help we
would need the weight of you and the arm,,,, the weight of a passenger and
the arm. how much fuel, and the arm.. the limits for the plane, then
we would have enough information to help.
boyd young
mkiii utah.
i have a w&b spread sheet i could email... if you want.
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| From: | "tkben002" <tkben002(at)bellsouth.net> |
30.8 is correct on the empty weight cg. The arm for the front seat is -23, rear
seat is 6 and fuel is 33 (it only holds 10 gallons). Datum is the leading edge
of wing. I did not weigh the aircraft as I assumed all of these calculations
are correct, but maybe I should. (the w&b was provided by the previous owner
when it was registered)
with just me and full fuel I am at 16.7 which is in cg range. If I empty the tank
I am 15.56 why is just over the forward limit. I have run many calculations
and the worst is up to 14.4 forward cg. I have been trying to read the archives
and find out as much as possible and as far as I can tell the forward cg
will hurt performance and I will loose elevator authority as slow speeds. I
guess I did not do enough homework as I was not expecting to be at the forward
cg limit. Apparently there are not very many Kolbra's out there as there is
not very much info in the archives for them.
Travis
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| From: | "b young" <byoungplumbing(at)gmail.com> |
30.8 is correct on the empty weight cg. The arm for the front seat is -23,
rear seat is 6 and fuel is 33 (it only holds 10 gallons). Datum is the
leading edge of wing. I did not weigh the aircraft as I assumed all of
these calculations are correct, but maybe I should. (the w&b was provided by
the previous owner when it was registered)
with just me and full fuel I am at 16.7 which is in cg range. If I empty
the tank I am 15.56 why is just over the forward limit. I have run many
calculations and the worst is up to 14.4 forward cg. I have been trying to
read the archives and find out as much as possible and as far as I can tell
the forward cg will hurt performance and I will loose elevator authority as
slow speeds. I guess I did not do enough homework as I was not expecting to
be at the forward cg limit. Apparently there are not very many Kolbra's out
there as there is not very much info in the archives for them.
Travis
empty plane cg is 30,8
with you in the plane the cg moves to 15.55
with 2 gal of fuel it moves to 15.81
full fuel and you goes to 16.75
add a 180 lb passenger it goes to 14.91
you, 180 lb passenger and 2 gal gas 14.04
the worst case I found is 14.04 and assuming 60 inch wide chord the cg in
% of wing cord is 23.42"
and if a 66 inch wing cord the cg in % of wing is 21.29
my mkiii plans say cg in % of wing should be between 25% and 35%
now I am not sure what your plans say is acceptable,,,, and I have not any
personal experience with the kolbra,,,,,,
but "MY" mkIIIC flies better in the back half of the cg range,,,
than it does in the front half. your mileage may vary.
I would try and find out from someone with kolbra experience,,,,, no don't
try,,,, do find someone with experience with a kolbra.. if and I say "if"
the numbers as cg in % of wing cord are similar to the mkiii... I think I
would try and move the engine back,, the battery,,, prop extension.
heavier tail wheel, lead, etc..... please don't take anything
represented here as anything more than a brain storming episode. again I
have no experience with your model plane.
boyd young
mkiii utah
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| From: | "b young" <byoungplumbing(at)gmail.com> |
i dont know why my last post last night did not come through, direct or
in the digest mode.
by
.......................................
According the the weight and balance sheet the a/c has a ew of 580.6 and
a
moment of 17899.9. I weigh in around 225-230.
Travis
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
first thing is not to assume anything,,,,, weigh the plane and make sure
the
starting place is good..... or you will be adding insult to injury,,,
hopefully not your injury.
if the starting numbers include the plane and original owner,,,, that
would
change every thing.
boyd young
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| From: | "tkben002" <tkben002(at)bellsouth.net> |
"if the starting numbers include the plane and original owner,,,, that would
change every thing. "
I am not sure I understand this. My assumption is that as long as the empty weight
(and correct weight on each wheel) and the arm lenghts to the different stations
are correct, then the individual weights are dynamic and would change
in differing situations. (ie, different loading)
I know there are a few kolbra owners on here, hopefully they can share their own
weight and balance.
Travis
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| From: | "Ralph B" <rstar447(at)gmail.com> |
Travis,
Here is my Kolbra weight and balance numbers.
There are Mark German's numbers. I have flown the Kolbra with a 250lb passenger
(80hp Rotax) and it climbs slowly.
Ralph B
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Ralph B
Original Firestar 447
N91493 E-AB
1000 hours
24 years flying it
Kolbra 912UL (engine and avionics stolen on 5/17/11. Hanger break-in)
N20386
done flying it
150 hrs
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| From: | Jon LaVasseur <firestar503(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Who is attending Oshkosh? |
I'll be there helping in a non-Kolb related display (#99)but I do still have a
Firestar and hope to get down to the UL/LS area a couple times and meet a few
people from the list.
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| Subject: | Re: Who is attending Oshkosh? |
| From: | NeilsenRM(at)gmail.com |
I will be at Oshkosh most of the week.
Hopefully the weather will be better than Sun-N-Fun.
Rick Neilsen
Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC
On , Jon LaVasseur wrote:
> I'll be there helping in a non-Kolb related display (#99) but I do still
> have a
> Firestar and hope to get down to the UL/LS area a couple times and meet a
> few
> people from the list.
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| Subject: | Re: Who is attending Oshkosh? |
| From: | "cspoke" <cspoke(at)mediacombb.net> |
I will be there Tuesday-Friday or Saturday. I am looking forward to seeing the
Kolb gang and any new Kolb pilots/builders. What will be displayed at #99? I will
look you up.
--------
Craig Spoke
Mark111 Xtra
VW Redrive
Lillian, AL
cspoke(at)mediacombb.net
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| From: | "Richard Pike" <richard(at)bcchapel.org> |
Yet another unreadable post due to un-resized pictures.
Sigh...
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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| From: | william sullivan <williamtsullivan(at)att.net> |
- Richard- I went to the lower right corner of my screen, where it says 1
00%.- I clicked on it a couple of times, and it magnified the attachments
to 150%.- They were completely readable.- Good luck.
-
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----------------- Bill Sullivan
--- On Thu, 7/21/11, Richard Pike wrote:
From: Richard Pike <richard(at)bcchapel.org>
Subject: Kolb-List: Re: W&B
Date: Thursday, July 21, 2011, 11:28 PM
Yet another unreadable post due to un-resized pictures.
Sigh...
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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le, List Admin.
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| Subject: | Re: Who is attending Oshkosh? |
| From: | "Jimmy Young" <jdy100(at)comcast.net> |
I'm going, will be there Monday through Wednesday.
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Jimmy Young
Missouri City, TX
Kolb FS II/HKS 700
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| From: | "David Lucas" <d_a_lucas(at)hotmail.com> |
> Richard- I went to the lower right corner of my screen, . . .
Alternatively, after clicking on the attachment and whilst viewing the picture,
hold down the 'ctrl' button and press the '+' sign key until it comes up to a
suitable size. (Hold down the 'ctrl' button & press the '-' key to get it back
to original size)
David.
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| From: | frank goodnight <frank.goodnight(at)att.net> |
Would the person that has the kolbra-with the stolen-engine please cont
act me, =0Aas I am =0A=0Ainterested in a kolbra and-I believe he posted
-, that he had no intrest =0Ain-repairing-the plane.-=0A=0AFrank Go
odnight=0AFirestar 2 HKS=0AFayetteville Arkansas
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| From: | "tkben002" <tkben002(at)bellsouth.net> |
Thanks Ralph for posting your numbers. I was suprised our empty weights were so
close. I expected the Jabiru to be lighter than the Rotax installation. (do
you have a BRS). Our weights are pretty much the same except you have about
10 more pounds on the tail than I do. I am not sure I understand why yours has
a different cg envelope (mine is 16 to 22.4)
Also, your youtube videos all say private now so I cannot see them. I watched
them plenty of times while deciding if I was going to buy this Kolbra. Is your
insurance going to replace your stolen engine?
thanks
Travis
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| From: | Herb <herbgh(at)nctc.com> |
Oh!! This is too good to pass up!! Frank; where did you get the
engine?? :-) Herb
At 07:33 AM 7/22/2011, you wrote:
>Would the person that has the kolbra with the stolen engine please
>contact me, as I am
>interested in a kolbra and I believe he posted , that he had no
>intrest in repairing the plane.
>
>Frank Goodnight
>Firestar 2 HKS
>Fayetteville Arkansas
>
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| From: | "Richard Pike" <richard(at)bcchapel.org> |
When I said unreadable, it is because the
images are so large that in order to read
any of the posts, you have to get the
scroll bar at the bottom of the screen
and toggle the whole mess back and forth
for each printed line. (Unless you hit the
enter bar after every 6 or 7 words when
composing your post like I am doing here.)
It was not that the images were too small,
quite the opposite. The reason I said they
were unreadable is because I lose interest
and leave them unread. But maybe that's
just me. Shalom.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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| From: | frank goodnight <frank.goodnight(at)att.net> |
Only engine I have is the HKS=0A=0AFrank=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A____________________
____________=0AFrom: Herb <herbgh(at)nctc.com>=0ATo: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
=0ASent: Fri, July 22, 2011 8:02:36 AM=0ASubject: Re: Kolb-List: kolbra=0A
s too good to pass up!!- Frank; where did you get the =0Aengine?? :-)-
Herb=0A=0A=0AAt 07:33 AM 7/22/2011, you wrote:=0A>Would the person that has
the kolbra with the stolen engine please =0A>contact me, as I am=0A>intere
sted in a kolbra and I believe he posted , that he had no =0A>intrest in re
pairing the plane.=0A>=0A>Frank Goodnight=0A>Firestar 2 HKS=0A>Fayetteville
=========================0A
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| From: | frank goodnight <frank.goodnight(at)att.net> |
Hi Boyd, =0A=0ANaaaa,=0A=0AMan probably-feels too bad--after being ri
pped off, for me to- make jokes. =0AAlthough somthing along those lines
=0Acould have sparked-a little-intrest on the list--it's been pretty de
ad =0Alately,guess it's just too hot.Good to hear from you.=0A=0AFrank=0A
=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: b young <by0ung(at)q.com>=0A
: Re: Kolb-List: kolbra=0A=0A=0AOnly engine I have is the HKS=0A=0AFrank=0A
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>=0A-=0AFrank-- Frank- Frank-- Frank- Frank =0A
=0Ayou missed a golden opportunity,,,,-- should have said,,,,- someon
e was driving =0Athrough the airport and had a 912 in the back of his truck
for sale =0Acheep......he was asking 2700.00 dollars,,,- but i picked it
up for 2100.00- =0Abucks!!!!!- that would have stirred the pot.- the
n and only then added,,,- just =0Akidding,,- only engine i have is the
hks.=0A=0Asorry my sense of humor sends me to these places.=0A=0Aboyd young
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| Subject: | Re: resizing windows |
| From: | "SS568" <david(at)PaulowniaTrees.com> |
Boyd,
I got as far as advanced then the trail ran out. I use firefox.
Was that for Internet explorer?
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| From: | "Richard Pike" <richard(at)bcchapel.org> |
by0ung(at)q.com wrote:
> hold down the 'ctrl' button and press the '+' sign key until it comes up to
a suitable size. (Hold down the 'ctrl' button & press the '-' key to get it back
to original size)
>
Thank You! This makes things tolerable! You da man!
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
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| Subject: | Re: Birds of a Feather |
| From: | "Mystic" <cheoah68(at)gmail.com> |
That's an incredible video. Here where I fly, we have a lot of buzzards who are
thermal experts. Sometimes I watch them to try to get an idea where an active
thermal is rising.
John Tempest
Firestar "Classic"
447
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| From: | "Larry Cottrell" <lcottrell1020(at)gmail.com> |
Thom, I wanted to thank you for your clever idea on how to lift your
airplane. I managed to let my right tire get too low in pressure and
tore the valve stem. At first I thought that it might be too much
trouble to make one, so I talked the wife into putting a hydraulic jack
under the axle after I lifted the plane up. Then I found that the
problem wasn't going to be solved that quickly, so I made one of your
jacks as best as I could remember out of some scrap wafer board that I
had, and was able to lift the plane easily and safely without help.
Great job!
Larry
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| Subject: | Yahoo! Auto Response |
I am UNAVAILABLE. I'll respond after the first August.
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| From: | Thom Riddle <riddletr(at)gmail.com> |
Larry,
I made mine from a piece of 2x8 laying around and it worked well and was so
quick to make I thought others might find use for it. I'm glad you benefited
from it.
Thom
On Sat, Jul 23, 2011 at 12:39 AM, Larry Cottrell wrote:
> **
> Thom, I wanted to thank you for your clever idea on how to lift your
> airplane. I managed to let my right tire get too low in pressure and tore
> the valve stem. At first I thought that it might be too much trouble to make
> one, so I talked the wife into putting a hydraulic jack under the axle after
> I lifted the plane up. Then I found that the problem wasn't going to be
> solved that quickly, so I made one of your jacks as best as I could remember
> out of some scrap wafer board that I had, and was able to lift the plane
> easily and safely without help.
> Great job!
> Larry
>
> Note: If you forward this email, please delete the forwarding history,
> which includes my email address.
>
> *
>
> *
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Florida Video |
| From: | Rick Neilsen <neilsenrm(at)gmail.com> |
David
Thanks. That was a real treat watching the video. I have flew from Lansing,
MI to Oshkosh, WI with Steven Green usually watching that fat two bladed IVO
pushing Steven's plane much faster than I could fly. I also flew Fat Albert
all day at the old Kolb factory just before flying my MKIII for the first
time. Then again a few years later at New Kolb getting a biannual check
ride. It looks different now. I spend all winter in Florida and now rent to
get airborn during the winter months. I have never flown over that area so
it was great. I assume that that was the cross Florida intercostal water
way.
Thanks again. Packing for Oshkosh.
Rick Neilsen
1st Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC
On Sun, Jul 17, 2011 at 6:12 PM, Watkinsdw wrote:
>
> Hi, Kolbers,
> Thought you might enjoy this video shot by a friend yesterday as a flight
> of five flew from Airglades (2IS) in Clewiston, Florida to Labelle (X14).
> There were two Kolbs, a Flyboy, (Czech plane) and two Drifters. The yellow
> MKIII is "Fat Albert," one of the original Kolb factory demo's, flown by
> Peter Volum, who has owned her for 12 years. Mine, the red and yellow MKIII
> was built by Stephen Green, and I've owned her for 2.5 happy years.
> The two drifters are based at Airglades, and are flown by two long-time
> ultralighters, Andy and Paul.
> The Flyboy, and Fat Albert are based at "Richards", a private grass strip
> NE of Homestead General (X51.)
> A great day was had by all, as we checked out some open land that Andy is
> thinking of developing as a fly-in camping retreat near Labelle.
> You can see that this part of South Florida has just received some much
> needed rain, after a severe drought this spring. They got 5 inches in about
> 24 hours.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYfAUt8MlqE
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=346803#346803
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Florida Video |
| From: | "Watkinsdw" <david.watkins0(at)gmail.com> |
Right, Rick,
It's the Caloosahatchee River West of Airglades.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=347493#347493
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| Subject: | DRILLING HOLE IN NEW WELDMENT |
| From: | "aslink" <andysheila(at)eltopia.com> |
HELP!! HOW DO I DRILL HOLE IN NEW AXLE WELDMENT TO MATCH OLD HOLE IN LANDING GEAR
STRUT AND STILL MAINTAIN PROPER TOE-IN? FIRESTAR II.
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Andy
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=347506#347506
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| Subject: | New Camera Mount |
| From: | "Mystic" <cheoah68(at)gmail.com> |
I've tried to find a good place for a remote camera mount with little success.
Either vibrations or electronic interference from the engine produced less than
ideal results.
I had an idea that would solve both problems. I think it worked fairly well, and
provided a unique perspective.
After landing, I had an hour and a half of video footage. I edited it down to 20
minutes and asked my brother what he thought. He said the video was good, but
"anyone who expects someone to sit thru a 20 minute video should be punched
in the face." Erik's a former Marine Sgt, and has a way with words.
I went back and cropped it down to 7.5 min. "Still way too long" says Erik. "Get
it down to 3 and the public will be able to handle it." I went back and got
it down to 4 minutes, but couldn't find anymore to cull.
I landed with a dead battery so I didn't capture my landing. It didn't seem right
not to have one so I went for a short hop that evening and pasted the landing
on the end of my earlier flight.
Hope you all like the finished product.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFmsacX2fT4
John Tempest
Firestar "Classic"
447
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=347511#347511
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| Subject: | Re: New Camera Mount |
| From: | "Dennis Thate" <retroman(at)frontier.com> |
OMG ! Not once...but twice !! Like a scene from right out of THE BLUE MAX....
I for one loved it ......... 8) Way Cool
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Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents
the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern
Faith is believing what you know ain't so - Mark Twain
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=347517#347517
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| From: | George Bearden <gab16(at)sbcglobal.net> |
> I'm going, will be there Monday through Wednesday.
I'm there now, for the week.
GeoB
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| Subject: | Any MK III Xtras near Ashland, OR? |
| From: | "Mic" <miceire(at)gmail.com> |
Hi all,
I'm new to the list and would like to learn of any Kolb MK III Xtras either under
construction or flying in or around Ashland, Oregon.
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| From: | Sky Biker <smlplanet(at)msn.com> |
Great video and now you have seen my world as I live just south of the rive
r and between Clewiston and LaBelle. If you was to have followed SR 80 whi
ch is parallaled the river you would have seen the hang glider field and tu
gs towing them up.
Date: Sat=2C 23 Jul 2011 12:03:08 -0400
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Florida Video
From: neilsenrm(at)gmail.com
David
Thanks. That was a real treat watching the video. I have flew from Lansing
=2C MI to Oshkosh=2C WI with Steven Green usually watching that fat two bla
ded IVO pushing Steven's plane much faster than I could fly. I also flew Fa
t Albert all day at the old Kolb factory just before flying my MKIII for th
e first time. Then again a few years later at New Kolb getting a biannual c
heck ride. It looks different now. I spend all winter in Florida and now re
nt to get airborn during the winter months. I have never flown over that ar
ea so it was great. I assume that that was the cross Florida intercostal wa
ter way.
Thanks again. Packing for Oshkosh.
Rick Neilsen1st Redrive VW Powered MKIIIC
On Sun=2C Jul 17=2C 2011 at 6:12 PM=2C Watkinsdw
wrote:
Hi=2C Kolbers=2C
Thought you might enjoy this video shot by a friend yesterday as a flight o
f five flew from Airglades (2IS) in Clewiston=2C Florida to Labelle (X14).
There were two Kolbs=2C a Flyboy=2C (Czech plane) and two Drifters. The yel
low MKIII is "Fat Albert=2C" one of the original Kolb factory demo's=2C flo
wn by Peter Volum=2C who has owned her for 12 years. Mine=2C the red and ye
llow MKIII was built by Stephen Green=2C and I've owned her for 2.5 happy y
ears.
The two drifters are based at Airglades=2C and are flown by two long-time u
ltralighters=2C Andy and Paul.
The Flyboy=2C and Fat Albert are based at "Richards"=2C a private grass str
ip NE of Homestead General (X51.)
A great day was had by all=2C as we checked out some open land that Andy is
thinking of developing as a fly-in camping retreat near Labelle.
You can see that this part of South Florida has just received some much nee
ded rain=2C after a severe drought this spring. They got 5 inches in about
24 hours.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYfAUt8MlqE
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| From: | chris davis <capedavis(at)yahoo.com> |
Has anyone dealt with this engine? Know the Price etc?weight?any other rotary
engine within reason price wise?
Chris Davis
KXP 503 492 hrs
Glider Pilot
Disabled from crash building Firefly
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| From: | william sullivan <williamtsullivan(at)att.net> |
| Subject: | Re: New Camera Mount |
- John- Great!- Not too much vibration, and incredible clarity.- With
the camera mounted by the tail, it gives a completely different perspectiv
e than most of the videos.- Do more.
- Where are you?
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-------------------- Bill Sullivan
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-------------------- Windsor Locks,
Ct.
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Subject: Kolb-List: New Camera Mount
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UFmsacX2fT4
John Tempest
Firestar "Classic"
447
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| From: | william sullivan <williamtsullivan(at)att.net> |
- Chris- Looks very interesting.- I couldn't seem to find details in a
short search.- I hope you can.- They do sell an aircraft model- XR40- b
ut no specs or price on that.- What about reduction?- They are saying o
ver 10k rpm max.?- Something to keep in mind if the rumor of the 447 demi
se is true.- Vibration would be way down.
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From: chris davis <capedavis(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: Aixro XR50
Date: Sunday, July 24, 2011, 7:45 AM
Has anyone dealt with this engine? Know the Price etc?weight?any other rota
ry
engine within reason price wise?
-Chris Davis
KXP 503 492 hrs
Glider Pilot
Disabled from crash building Firefly
le, List Admin.
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| Subject: | Re: DRILLING HOLE IN NEW WELDMENT |
| From: | "racerjerry" <gki(at)suffolk.lib.ny.us> |
I am assuming that you are speaking of a new axle weldment or axle shaft at the
WHEEL end of the aluminum landing gear leg. The job is not easy. It helps if
you
#1 Get lucky
#2 Have a good friend with a machine shop
Let me describe a method which is best done on a rigid Bridgeport mill.
Set up your airplane on a garage / hangar floor with new weldment (axle shaft)
in place. Set everything up at the desired toe angle and carefully make an index
mark on both weldment and gear leg where they join so that you are able to
re-establish the same position after gear leg and weldment are removed from the
airplane. You really need some weight on the wheel to get the correct settings,
so you may have to re-check by clamping (pinching) the weldment to the gear
leg or jam something in the socket to keep it from swiveling.
After your index marks are made, you need to find a steel shaft to act as a guide
pin which fits snug but will freely pass through the existing hole in the gear
leg. I believe your Firestar uses an AN4 (1/4 inch) bolt to attach the weldment.
I recommend a hardened steel dowel pin, but hack sawing the ends off
of a long hard grade 8 bolt from the hardware store will work too. The guide
pin needs to be hard or it can bend and screw up your setup. The idea is to place
the guide pin in the mills drill chuck (with mill spindle lowered) and firmly
clamp the gear leg to the mills table so that the guide pin will pass through
the existing hole in the gear leg as the chuck is lowered.
Next, the axle shaft / weldment is placed on the clamped gear leg with index marks
lined up and a small pilot hole is drilled into the weldment. You need
to start with a small drill bit and work up in steps so that you will put minimum
pressure on the clamped gear leg so as to not move it out of position. After
each drilling, you may want to remove the weldment and use the guide pin to
check that the gear leg has not moved out of position. When you are ready to
drill the final (1/4 inch) size, drill the hole so that it just breaks through
the first side of the steel weldment tube and does not penetrate into the aluminum
gear leg.
You do not want to remove any aluminum with the drill bit. After the first side
of the hole is drilled, it is tempting to keep going through to the other side
DONT!
Again, start with the small drill bits to slowly open up the opposite side of the
tube. When you are ready for the final pass with the inch drill bit, the
bit will quickly pass through, with minimum aluminum contact.
I know that friends with Bridgeport mills are hard to come by and you may be tempted
to try this procedure on a drill press. If you can at least use a drill
press with a wide production table, it may give you enough room for a clamping
fixture, but the mill is a lot more rigid and easier.
Good luck and remember that if you are flying off a grass strip, your toe settings
are not really all that critical.
P.S. When making the index marks, you dont want to put deep scribed lines, especially
circumferential ones, on the aluminum gear leg. Layout dye or a very
light coat of spray paint will allow light scribing without digging into and marring
the aluminum. The gear leg is rugged, but we want no excuses for a fatigue
crack to start.
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Jerry King
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| Subject: | What mic cover/muff do you use? |
| From: | "gotime242" <dylanshine(at)gmail.com> |
Hello all,
I wear a normal david clark headset in my FSII with a very low windscreen, i basically
have the wind coming directly at my head. I can communicate somewhat by
having the volume way up (listen to static the whole time) and placing my hand
over the mic when needing to talk.
What is everyone doing, or what product are people using for their microphones?
I was looking around at different mic muff options but just wanted to see what
people have found works best.
Thanks!
-Dylan
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| Subject: | Re: What mic cover/muff do you use? |
You could extend your windshield up to the wing. [biggest improvement I
have made to the FS II except maybe VG's]. Get a noise cancelling headset
[the absolute best for a FS II is the Victor {ANR}. All this from memory but
they are actually made & warranteed by Lightspeed. Look up "aircraft
headsets" on eBay. You will find them on the first page for under $300. I
think it comes with a foam mic muff.
If I REALLY want to get my message through, I will cover the mic with my
hand & maybe even cut engine rpm's some.
Howard Shackleford
FS II
SC
In a message dated 7/24/2011 10:22:03 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
dylanshine(at)gmail.com writes:
What is everyone doing, or what product are people using for their
microphones? I was looking around at different mic muff options but just wanted
to
see what people have found works best.
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| Subject: | Re: What mic cover/muff do you use? |
| From: | russ kinne <russkinne(at)mac.com> |
Dylan
Any time a mic is used in the wind, a wind-sock will improve xmission greatly.
Just a tubular sleeve of foam-plastic, 1/4 or 1/2" thick, will do fine. You can
just cut one out with scissors and tape it together. Look at the TV reporters
--= they all use them.
Russ
On Jul 24, 2011, at 10:19 AM, gotime242 wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> I wear a normal david clark headset in my FSII with a very low windscreen, i
basically have the wind coming directly at my head. I can communicate somewhat
by having the volume way up (listen to static the whole time) and placing my
hand over the mic when needing to talk.
>
> What is everyone doing, or what product are people using for their microphones?
I was looking around at different mic muff options but just wanted to see what
people have found works best.
>
> Thanks!
>
> -Dylan
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=347546#347546
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | RE: new camera mount. |
re: john tempest you tube video.....
the video was interesting..would like to know camera you were using and
mount. I liked the way it showed the plane and the terrain...I am old and not
into video yet as my interenet speed is a bit slow for video...that should
be improving this fall so I may get into video myself and should start
gathering info..Input from all in regard to camera and mounting will be of
interest to many in the future, I would think...You are a lot bolder pilot than
I am....but I am a old pilot....thanks....blue skys and safe flying...jswan
Jim Swan Kolb Firestar ll, 503 Rotax , 6147 Wilcox Rd., Eaton Rapids, Mi
48827 ph 517-663-8488 GPS GPS FOR MY RUNWAY N 42 deg 28.581 W084deg 44.825
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| Subject: | Sunday morning flying |
| From: | "Thom Riddle" <riddletr(at)gmail.com> |
Bob Bean and I agreed to meet at his place this morning and then to fly from there
to Hendershot's fly-in (34NY) near the Ontario Lake shore just west of Rochester,
NY.
I figured BB would be waiting for me on the ground but as you will see in the video
I took of my approach, and eventual landing, we almost met on final. I started
filming long before I arrived at BB's so nothing much to see until the last
minute or so. Just, beautiful WNY countryside.
http://www.youtube.com/user/thomriddle?feature=mhee#p/a/u/1/wj8YzF1fnB8
I had planned to video our departure from BB's but the field was so rough, it joggled
off the video function in my iPhone. Once airborne, though, I shot a bit
of me following BB's SuzyQ powered MkIII. I was closer to BB in the air than
it appears in this video.
http://www.youtube.com/user/thomriddle?feature=mhee#p/a/u/0/a_GFF20vBPM
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Thom Riddle
Buffalo, NY (9G0)
Kolb Slingshot SS-021
Jabiru 2200A #1574
Tennessee Prop 64x32
Truth is what stands the test of experience.
- Albert Einstein
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| From: | Phil <phactor9(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Re: RE: new camera mount. |
Hi Jim:
Sure is flat where you live. Nice, long runway!
For a camera, I purchased the Tachyon OPS HD, $139 plus S/H ($152.84). I ha
ve yet to receive it-("Coming this August"), but Tachyon-seems to be po
pular and-I'm going on faith.
http://www.tachyoninc.com/
For a mount, it seems to me vibration can be abated by attaching the camera
to a "brick" and then soft-mounting the brick to your plane. Then, all you
have to worry about is wind-buffeting. Now, who would want to affix a bric
k to their plane? Well, probably someone that wants-vibration-free video.
Catch-22.
-
When I get my camera, I'll test this theory, of course. Obviously, the theo
ry is some kind of dead-weight that shrugs off vibration. Not necessarily a
brick; maybe a 6" galvie or black-pipe nipple, 2" or 3" dia.?
Phil H. - [future] Firefly
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From: Arksey(at)aol.com <Arksey(at)aol.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: RE: new camera mount.
Date: Sunday, July 24, 2011, 2:55 PM
re: john tempest you tube video.....
the video was interesting..would like to know camera you were using and mou
nt. I liked the way it showed the plane and the terrain...I am old and not
into video yet as my interenet speed is a bit slow for video...that should
be improving this fall so I may get into video myself and should start gath
ering info..Input from all in regard to camera and mounting will be of inte
rest to many in the future, I would think...You are a lot bolder pilot than
I am....but I am a old pilot....thanks....blue skys and safe flying...jswa
n
-
Jim Swan Kolb Firestar ll, 503 Rotax , 6147 Wilcox Rd., Eaton Rapids, Mi 48
827 ph 517-663-8488 GPS GPS FOR MY RUNWAY N 42 deg 28.581 W084deg 44.825
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| From: | "SS568" <david(at)PaulowniaTrees.com> |
There is a kolb on barnstormers for sale. It was converted from a tandem seating
to a side by side.
The ad also says the N number will have to be removed. It also said the inspection
was not completed.
I have read recently that if some inspection was not completed on time that the
FAA would not reissue, even to a new owner.
Can anyone comment on this N number issue, or am i confusing it with something
else.
Thanks,
David d.
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| From: | "b young" <byoungplumbing(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: DRILLING HOLE IN NEW WELDMENT |
to drill a new weldment into an existing axel.
take a piece of tube that will fit over the axel that is is large enough
to fit over the weldment. split the tube so it could be clamped on the
axel without movement. place a bolt through the hole in the axel. and
slide a small tube over both ends of the bolt these will serve as a drill
alignment jig. weld the small tubes to the end of the tube that is
clamped to the axel. pull the bolt out, then install the weldment at the
proper alignment, now you have a drill alignment tube that is lined up with
the hole in the axel.
to modify this procedure to give you some adjustment,,, when installing
the bolt through the axel.... use a 1/4 do ax 3/16 id tube for a bushing
through the axel, then install a 3/16 inch rod through the bushing and
axel hole, weld a 3/16 inch id drill guide tube to the split, clamped
tube, then drill the weldment with a 3/16 inch drill.. leaving the
bushing in place position the weldment on the plane with a 3/16 " bolt.
check for alignment, if it is ok drill out the hole to fit, if not
file or drill out the hole to correct the alignment then drill to final
size,
the biggest problem with this method is the tapered gear leg. that will
make it harder to clamp to securely. so be careful. it may be necessary
to make 3 or 4 splits and heat the tube so it can be bent to fit the taper.
you can use this jig like a blind rivet hole locater.
boyd young
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| From: | "Gregory S Taylor" <gtaylor35918(at)roadrunner.com> |
Dave,
Not too long ago I sold a FS 1 back to the person I bought it off of
because I found out from the FAA that if it was not certified by Jan. 2010
and had a airworthy certificate that I could not register it, and If I could
not get it below the 254 lb. ultralite weight that I would not legally be
able to fly it. I gave 3000 for the plane and I have about 8 or 9 grand in
my Private/IFR ticket so I decided it wasn't worth the risk of my license to
fly the FS even though it was fun to fly. For what it's worth I plan to find
one that is legal to fly. If you can't keep the N-number then it/s just a
lawn ornament.
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[mailto:owner-kolb-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of SS568
Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 4:05 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: No N number
There is a kolb on barnstormers for sale. It was converted from a tandem
seating to a side by side.
The ad also says the N number will have to be removed. It also said the
inspection was not completed.
I have read recently that if some inspection was not completed on time that
the FAA would not reissue, even to a new owner.
Can anyone comment on this N number issue, or am i confusing it with
something else.
Thanks,
David d.
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| From: | Ellery Batchelder Jr <elleryweld(at)aol.com> |
I talked with a FAA Rep in my area and they are willing to bend a bit to
help some people out
Ellery Batchelder Jr.
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From: SS568 <david(at)PaulowniaTrees.com>
Sent: Sun, Jul 24, 2011 4:04 pm
Subject: Kolb-List: No N number
There is a kolb on barnstormers for sale. It was converted from a tandem
eating to a side by side.
he ad also says the N number will have to be removed. It also said the
nspection was not completed.
have read recently that if some inspection was not completed on time that
the
AA would not reissue, even to a new owner.
an anyone comment on this N number issue, or am i confusing it with someth
ing
lse.
hanks,
avid d.
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| From: | "pete" <lhaggerty(at)tampabay.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: What mic cover/muff do you use? |
Try Oregon Aero military upgrade kits for microphones Mic Muffs. Pete
----- Original Message -----
From: "russ kinne" <russkinne(at)mac.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 2:34 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: What mic cover/muff do you use?
>
> Dylan
> Any time a mic is used in the wind, a wind-sock will improve xmission
> greatly. Just a tubular sleeve of foam-plastic, 1/4 or 1/2" thick, will do
> fine. You can just cut one out with scissors and tape it together. Look at
> the TV reporters --= they all use them.
> Russ
>
> On Jul 24, 2011, at 10:19 AM, gotime242 wrote:
>
>>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I wear a normal david clark headset in my FSII with a very low
>> windscreen, i basically have the wind coming directly at my head. I can
>> communicate somewhat by having the volume way up (listen to static the
>> whole time) and placing my hand over the mic when needing to talk.
>>
>> What is everyone doing, or what product are people using for their
>> microphones? I was looking around at different mic muff options but just
>> wanted to see what people have found works best.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> -Dylan
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=347546#347546
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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| From: | gliderx5(at)comcast.net |
David
The N number is usually not a problem, but that is just the registration that shows
that you own it. The difficult part is the airworthiness certificate. The
January 2010 deadline that for light sport. You can still register it as an experimental
amateur built any time, as long as you can document that it was built
by amateurs. This will require a builders log, including photos of the building
process. If the seller has that information then it should not be a huge
deal to get the airworthiness certificate. If he does not have it, then you probably
will not be able to make it legal to fly.
Malcolm Morrison
http://home.comcast.net/~mmorrison123/index.htm
----- Original Message -----
From: "SS568" <david(at)PaulowniaTrees.com>
Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 4:04:37 PM
Subject: Kolb-List: No N number
There is a kolb on barnstormers for sale. It was converted from a tandem seating
to a side by side.
The ad also says the N number will have to be removed. It also said the inspection
was not completed.
I have read recently that if some inspection was not completed on time that the
FAA would not reissue, even to a new owner.
Can anyone comment on this N number issue, or am i confusing it with something
else.
Thanks,
David d.
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| From: | "SS568" <david(at)PaulowniaTrees.com> |
Do I have this right?
If I go to see about a used LSA, then it is not necessary for it to have an N number,
but desirable.
It should have a current air worthiness cert. but if not?
Or if the air worthiness is out of date?
David d
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Jim Swan Kolb Firestar ll, 503 Rotax , 6147 Wilcox Rd., Eaton Rapids, Mi
48827 ph 517-663-8488 GPS GPS FOR MY RUNWAY N 42 deg 28.581 W084deg 44.825
In a message dated 7/24/2011 1:16:19 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
gab16(at)sbcglobal.net writes:
--> Kolb-List message posted by: George Bearden
> I'm going, will be there Monday through Wednesday.
I'm there now, for the week.
GeoB
your guys that are going to be at Oshkosh...keep us posted if you can as
to what is interesting and what ever...pictures also if you can for us that
are at home but wish we were there...when I am at fly ins with my Kolb
firestar it always seems to be interesting to people....I am betting that
people are going to be interested in the new Kolb 2 place firestar with a nose
wheel..weather here in mich. has been a lot better for flying...hot but cool
in the morning and evening...I have been in the air about ever
evening....sure is fun in the Firestar ll ....looking at the wildlife and crops....blue
skys..safe flying...jswan
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| From: | Richard Girard <aslsa.rng(at)gmail.com> |
No, David, you have it wrong. The problem is that it was registered as an
LSA but the airworthiness certificate was never issued (I looked up the N
number). It is not legal to fly as it is and because it was previously
registered as an LSA it can't be legally re-registered as an Amateur built
now.
So, unless you need spare parts, or you want a really nifty lawn ornament,
leave it be.
Rick Girard
On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 8:22 PM, SS568 wrote:
>
> Do I have this right?
> If I go to see about a used LSA, then it is not necessary for it to have an
> N number, but desirable.
> It should have a current air worthiness cert. but if not?
> Or if the air worthiness is out of date?
>
> David d
>
>
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>
>
--
Zulu Delta
Mk IIIC
Thanks, Homer GBYM
It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy.
- Groucho Marx
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| Subject: | new video...oil cooler test flight |
| From: | "ces308" <ces308(at)ldaco.com> |
Hello all...
I got the new oil cooler on and took her for a ride to see how she works....works
good ! It dropped my cruise temp by 50* !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXlXdbL7_zI
Thanks for watching ! Safe trips to all going to Oshkosh...
chris ambrose
M3X/Jabiru A-2200 199.3 hrs
N327CS
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| Subject: | Re: RE: new camera mount. |
Hi Phil.,,,
yes in southern mich where I am at it is only small rolling
hills....had trouble when a kid to find hill big enough to ski down in the
winter....mix of farm lands and woods...and a few small lakes....so runway's are
sort
of easy here....yes I got more runway than I need for the Kolb but I had
the land and room and it adds a bit of safety and other airplanes can come
in....I do have a slight hill in the runway but it seems to be more of help
than hindrance....I sure have a lot of fun flying the Firestar around the
area, even at the price of gas it is still cheaper than a lot of planes and
the visiblity is so good that it makes looking around from the air a
enjoyment...plus learning to land the Kolb for a old general aviation pilot is
sort of fun also...I am also a member of the Kolb group on facebook and post a
lot of pictures on there....if i get into the video thing the Kolb should
make a good platform to take some interesting stuff.....thanks for your
info...jswan
Jim Swan Kolb Firestar ll, 503 Rotax , 6147 Wilcox Rd., Eaton Rapids, Mi
48827 ph 517-663-8488 GPS GPS FOR MY RUNWAY N 42 deg 28.581 W084deg 44.825
Hi Jim:
Sure is flat where you live. Nice, long runway!
For a camera, I purchased the Tachyon OPS HD, $139 plus S/H ($152.84). I
have yet to receive it ("Coming this August"), but Tachyon seems to be
popular and I'm going on faith.
_http://www.tachyoninc.com/_ (http://www.tachyoninc.com/)
For a mount, it seems to me vibration can be abated by attaching the
camera to a "brick" and then soft-mounting the brick to your plane. Then, all
you have to worry about is wind-buffeting. Now, who would want to affix a
brick to their plane? Well, probably someone that wants vibration-free video.
Catch-22.
When I get my camera, I'll test this theory, of course. Obviously, the
theory is some kind of dead-weight that shrugs off vibration. Not necessarily
a brick; maybe a 6" galvie or black-pipe nipple, 2" or 3" dia.?
Phil H. - [future] Firefly
--- On Sun, 7/24/11, Arksey(at)aol.com wrote:
From: Arksey(at)aol.com <Arksey(at)aol.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: RE: new camera mount.
Date: Sunday, July 24, 2011, 2:55 PM
re: john tempest you tube video.....
the video was interesting..would like to know camera you were using and
mount. I liked the way it showed the plane and the terrain...I am old and not
into video yet as my interenet speed is a bit slow for video...that should
be improving this fall so I may get into video myself and should start
gathering info..Input from all in regard to camera and mounting will be of
interest to many in the future, I would think...You are a lot bolder pilot
than I am....but I am a old pilot....thanks....blue skys and safe
flying...jswan
Jim Swan Kolb Firestar ll, 503 Rotax , 6147 Wilcox Rd., Eaton Rapids, Mi
48827 ph 517-663-8488 GPS GPS FOR MY RUNWAY N 42 deg 28.581 W084deg 44.82
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| Subject: | Re: New Camera Mount |
| From: | "ces308" <ces308(at)ldaco.com> |
Nice job !
That was entertaining ! I have to try and make a mount like that !
keep them coming !!!
chris ambrose
M3X/Jabiru A-2200
N327CS
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| Subject: | Re: New Camera Mount |
| From: | "Mystic" <cheoah68(at)gmail.com> |
I fly out of Tokeena airpark in Oconee County SC. We're at the foothils of the
Blue Ridge mountains, and I feel lucky to fly here. Lots of forest, with just
enough hayfields and pastures (and water) to make ya feel safe.
Very little traffic too.
Glad ya like.
John Tempest
Firestar "Classic"
447
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| Subject: | Re: DRILLING HOLE IN NEW WELDMENT |
| From: | Richard Girard <aslsa.rng(at)gmail.com> |
There's actually a first step to any of these methods and that is to examine
the hole in the gear leg. Is it centered? Is it the correct size? Is there
any sign that the gear leg has been bent? This is the time to determine if
it is in serviceable condition. Maybe you want to replace the gear leg if
it's questionable. If you're happy with the old gear leg, here's another way
to get a precise hole.
Get a small piece of hardwood, ply wood, or particle board (hardwood is
best) about 1" X 3" X 6", a couple of tongue depressors, a small can of
Bondo, a 3" C clamp, and a 1/4" transfer punch.
Place the new weldment on the landing gear leg and align loosely, say +/- a
degree or two. Clamp the block to the gear leg normal to the existing bolt
hole with the tongue depressors as spacers so that the new weldment can be
taken on and off without disturbing the block. When you're satisfied that
the block is close to 90 degrees to the hole and the weldment slides off and
on easily, mix a batch of Bondo and glue the block to the gear leg with it.
Let harden about 15 minutes. Drill thru the board using the landing gear
hole as a guide. Slide the weldment back on to the gear leg and align it
carefully. Put the transfer punch through the hole in the board and tap the
end with a hammer. Remove the weldment and drill the hole out on a drill
press. Start with a smaller drill, say a #40, so you make sure the drill
stays centered on the punch mark and work up. Deburr and check that the
transfer punch fits nicely in the hole. Put the weldment back on the landing
gear leg, align and put the transfer punch through the board, the first hole
in the weldment, and the landing gear leg. Check alignment. Tap the transfer
punch. Remove the weldment and drill the punch mark, making sure to align
drill bit in the center of the first hole. Again, start small and drill up
so the drill doesn't push to one side. Remove the clamp, knock the board
off, remove the remaining bondo and install the weldment.
Rick Girard
On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 3:54 PM, b young wrote:
>
> to drill a new weldment into an existing axel.
>
> take a piece of tube that will fit over the axel that is is large enough
> to fit over the weldment. split the tube so it could be clamped on the
> axel without movement. place a bolt through the hole in the axel. and
> slide a small tube over both ends of the bolt these will serve as a drill
> alignment jig. weld the small tubes to the end of the tube that is
> clamped to the axel. pull the bolt out, then install the weldment at the
> proper alignment, now you have a drill alignment tube that is lined up with
> the hole in the axel.
>
> to modify this procedure to give you some adjustment,,, when installing
> the bolt through the axel.... use a 1/4 do ax 3/16 id tube for a bushing
> through the axel, then install a 3/16 inch rod through the bushing and
> axel hole, weld a 3/16 inch id drill guide tube to the split, clamped
> tube, then drill the weldment with a 3/16 inch drill.. leaving the
> bushing in place position the weldment on the plane with a 3/16 " bolt.
> check for alignment, if it is ok drill out the hole to fit, if not
> file or drill out the hole to correct the alignment then drill to final
> size,
>
> the biggest problem with this method is the tapered gear leg. that will
> make it harder to clamp to securely. so be careful. it may be necessary
> to make 3 or 4 splits and heat the tube so it can be bent to fit the taper.
>
> you can use this jig like a blind rivet hole locater.
>
> boyd young
>
>
--
Zulu Delta
Mk IIIC
Thanks, Homer GBYM
It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy.
- Groucho Marx
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| From: | "b young" <byoungplumbing(at)gmail.com> |
guess I have not seen the tail number,,,, if it was registered as a
lsa,,, why cant it remain a lsa? I am having trouble understanding
why it cant remain in the lsa category,, if the owner wanted to
keep the n number,,, why cant a new n number for lsa be issued?
what would have made the previously registered lsa airworthiness
invalid?
I have not done any research,,, but if the tail number was reserved,,,
and never granted because the inspection was never done,,,, could it be
a experimental armature built by reserving a new tail number and having
the inspection finalized? as long as the documentation is complete to
comply with the experimental classification. or reserve a new n number
and have it inspected lsa or experimental...
if the plane was an old fat ultralitght,,, and never registered
before the deadline,,, I could understand,,, but once registered lsa
it still should be good.
I dont know what I am missing here.
before I jumped to any conclusions,,, I would call get a hold of the
builder and find out the details,, and not guess at what is going on
then call the fisdo and get an answer before I spent my money.
does an air worthiness ever go out of date,,,, or just need an annual
inspection, or was an faa re registration letter sent out and
ignored... I believe there was a grace period to renew,,, or another
time frame to reapply.
confused,,, which is not as hard as it use to be.
boyd young
mkiii utah
quote
Do I have this right?
If I go to see about a used LSA, then it is not necessary for it to have
an N number, but desirable.
It should have a current air worthiness cert. but if not?
Or if the air worthiness is out of date?
David
It is not legal to fly as it is and because it was previously registered
as an LSA it can't be legally re-registered as an Amateur built now.
Richard
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Richard Girard <aslsa.rng(at)gmail.com> |
Here's the data from the FAA data base.
Aircraft Description Serial NumberD R B 2Type RegistrationIndividual
Manufacturer
NameKOLBCertificate Issue Date09/04/2007ModelFIRESTARExpiration Date
09/30/2012Type AircraftFixed Wing Single-EngineStatusValidPending Number
ChangeNoneType Engine2 CycleDate Change AuthorizedNoneDealerNoMFR YearNoneM
ode
S Code51066413Fractional OwnerNO
------------------------------
Registered Owner NameBOWMAN DANNY R Street717 N MORGAN ST CityMEADVILLE
StatePENNSYLVANIACountyCRAWFORDZip Code16335-2122CountryUNITED STATES
------------------------------
Airworthiness Engine ManufacturerUnknownClassificationUnknown Engine Mode
l
UnknownCategoryNone A/W DateNone
The A/W certificate was never issued. The last date to do that was January
31st 2010. You can't get it now.
21.191 Experimental certificates.
Experimental certificates are issued for the following purposes:
(i) *Operating light-sport aircraft. *Operating a light-sport aircraft that
=97
(1) Has not been issued a U.S. or foreign airworthiness certificate and doe
s
not meet the provisions of =A7103.1 of this chapter. An experimental
certificate will not be issued under this paragraph for these aircraft afte
r
January 31, 2008; (this was extended to 2010 PROVIDED the aircraft was
registered by the 2008 date)
I've asked both the local FSDO and the Light Sport Branch in Oklahoma City
if there is ANY way they will issue an E-AB certificate for one of these
aircraft and the answer is always NO.
Rick Girard
On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 10:35 PM, b young wrote:
> **
> guess I have not seen the tail number,,,, if it was registered as a
> lsa,,, why cant it remain a lsa? I am having trouble understanding why
it
> cant remain in the lsa category,, if the owner wanted to keep the n
> number,,, why cant a new n number for lsa be issued?
>
> what would have made the previously registered lsa airworthiness invali
d?
>
> I have not done any research,,, but if the tail number was reserved,,,
> and never granted because the inspection was never done,,,, could it be
a
> experimental armature built by reserving a new tail number and having the
> inspection finalized? as long as the documentation is complete to compl
y
> with the experimental classification. or reserve a new n number and have
it
> inspected lsa or experimental...
>
> if the plane was an old fat ultralitght,,, and never registered before
> the deadline,,, I could understand,,, but once registered lsa it still
> should be good.
>
> I dont know what I am missing here.
>
> before I jumped to any conclusions,,, I would call get a hold of the
> builder and find out the details,, and not guess at what is going on th
en
> call the fisdo and get an answer before I spent my money.
>
> does an air worthiness ever go out of date,,,, or just need an annual
> inspection, or was an faa re registration letter sent out and
> ignored... I believe there was a grace period to renew,,, or another
> time frame to reapply.
>
> confused,,, which is not as hard as it use to be.
>
> boyd young
> mkiii utah
>
> quote
>
> Do I have this right?
> If I go to see about a used LSA, then it is not necessary for it to have
an
> N number, but desirable.
> It should have a current air worthiness cert. but if not?
> Or if the air worthiness is out of date?
>
> David
>
>
> It is not legal to fly as it is and because it was previously registered
as
> an LSA it can't be legally re-registered as an Amateur built now.
>
> Richard
>
>
> *
>
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> *
>
>
--
Zulu Delta
Mk IIIC
Thanks, Homer GBYM
It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy.
- Groucho Marx
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| From: | "Bob" <rmurrill(at)cox.net> |
I would not call the local Fisdo...Congress just laid most of them off
and any that are there are probably pretty pissed ... I have talked to
a guy at EAA headquarters several times...lost his name, but he is their
guru of odd ball experimental licensing I think he has seen just
about every non standard scenerio....If it can be fixed he will know how
and will make recommendations as to how to approach local FAA offices.
bob
From: b young
Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2011 8:35 PM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Re: No N number
guess I have not seen the tail number,,,, if it was registered as a
lsa,,, why cant it remain a lsa? I am having trouble understanding
why it cant remain in the lsa category,, if the owner wanted to
keep the n number,,, why cant a new n number for lsa be issued?
what would have made the previously registered lsa airworthiness
invalid?
I have not done any research,,, but if the tail number was reserved,,,
and never granted because the inspection was never done,,,, could it be
a experimental armature built by reserving a new tail number and having
the inspection finalized? as long as the documentation is complete to
comply with the experimental classification. or reserve a new n number
and have it inspected lsa or experimental...
if the plane was an old fat ultralitght,,, and never registered
before the deadline,,, I could understand,,, but once registered lsa
it still should be good.
I dont know what I am missing here.
before I jumped to any conclusions,,, I would call get a hold of the
builder and find out the details,, and not guess at what is going on
then call the fisdo and get an answer before I spent my money.
does an air worthiness ever go out of date,,,, or just need an annual
inspection, or was an faa re registration letter sent out and
ignored... I believe there was a grace period to renew,,, or another
time frame to reapply.
confused,,, which is not as hard as it use to be.
boyd young
mkiii utah
quote
Do I have this right?
If I go to see about a used LSA, then it is not necessary for it to have
an N number, but desirable.
It should have a current air worthiness cert. but if not?
Or if the air worthiness is out of date?
David
It is not legal to fly as it is and because it was previously registered
as an LSA it can't be legally re-registered as an Amateur built now.
Richard
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| From: | Richard Girard <aslsa.rng(at)gmail.com> |
Boyd, I didn't answer the last part of your question. IF you do not
re-register an E-LSA that was issued an airworthiness certificate under the
"fat ultralight" provision, i.e. FAR 21.191 i (1) in the time allotted and
allow the registration to expire its airworthiness certificate is null and
void AND IT CANNOT BE RE-ISSUED (caps for emphasis, not yelling). Why?
Because the provision has expired, as have *all the forms* that serviced
that provision. There is no path to reissue an airworthiness certificate,
now. It's an unintended consequence of the re-registration scheme. I know
Edsel is probably tired of repeating this, but you can check it with him at
the Light Sport Branch. I haven't asked in a year, who knows, maybe there's
been a miracle and FAA's Legal Dept. has found a way. But that's the answer
that I got and it was confirmed by Roger Lee on the Rotax engines forum and
several others.
Please don't shoot the messenger. I didn't make the mess, I don't work for
the FAA.
Rick Girard
On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 10:59 PM, Richard Girard wrote
:
> Here's the data from the FAA data base.
> Aircraft Description Serial Number D R B 2Type Registration Individual
Manufacturer
> NameKOLB Certificate Issue Date09/04/2007 ModelFIRESTAR Expiration Date
> 09/30/2012 Type Aircraft Fixed Wing Single-EngineStatus ValidPending
> Number Change NoneType Engine 2 CycleDate Change Authorized NoneDealer No
MFR
> Year NoneMode S Code 51066413Fractional Owner NO
> ------------------------------
> Registered Owner Name BOWMAN DANNY R Street 717 N MORGAN ST City
> MEADVILLE StatePENNSYLVANIA County CRAWFORDZip Code 16335-2122 CountryUNI
TED
> STATES
> ------------------------------
> Airworthiness Engine ManufacturerUnknown ClassificationUnknown Engine
> Model UnknownCategory None A/W DateNone
>
> The A/W certificate was never issued. The last date to do that was Januar
y
> 31st 2010. You can't get it now.
> 21.191 Experimental certificates.
>
> Experimental certificates are issued for the following purposes:
>
> (i) *Operating light-sport aircraft. *Operating a light-sport aircraft
> that=97
>
> (1) Has not been issued a U.S. or foreign airworthiness certificate and
> does not meet the provisions of =A7103.1 of this chapter. An experimental
> certificate will not be issued under this paragraph for these aircraft af
ter
> January 31, 2008; (this was extended to 2010 PROVIDED the aircraft was
> registered by the 2008 date)
>
> I've asked both the local FSDO and the Light Sport Branch in Oklahoma Cit
y
> if there is ANY way they will issue an E-AB certificate for one of these
> aircraft and the answer is always NO.
>
> Rick Girard
>
>
> On Sun, Jul 24, 2011 at 10:35 PM, b young wrote
:
>
>> **
>> guess I have not seen the tail number,,,, if it was registered as a
>> lsa,,, why cant it remain a lsa? I am having trouble understanding wh
y it
>> cant remain in the lsa category,, if the owner wanted to keep the n
>> number,,, why cant a new n number for lsa be issued?
>>
>> what would have made the previously registered lsa airworthiness
>> invalid?
>>
>> I have not done any research,,, but if the tail number was reserved,,,
>> and never granted because the inspection was never done,,,, could it be
a
>> experimental armature built by reserving a new tail number and having th
e
>> inspection finalized? as long as the documentation is complete to comp
ly
>> with the experimental classification. or reserve a new n number and hav
e it
>> inspected lsa or experimental...
>>
>> if the plane was an old fat ultralitght,,, and never registered befor
e
>> the deadline,,, I could understand,,, but once registered lsa it still
>> should be good.
>>
>> I dont know what I am missing here.
>>
>> before I jumped to any conclusions,,, I would call get a hold of the
>> builder and find out the details,, and not guess at what is going on t
hen
>> call the fisdo and get an answer before I spent my money.
>>
>> does an air worthiness ever go out of date,,,, or just need an annual
>> inspection, or was an faa re registration letter sent out and
>> ignored... I believe there was a grace period to renew,,, or another
>> time frame to reapply.
>>
>> confused,,, which is not as hard as it use to be.
>>
>> boyd young
>> mkiii utah
>>
>> quote
>>
>> Do I have this right?
>> If I go to see about a used LSA, then it is not necessary for it to have
>> an N number, but desirable.
>> It should have a current air worthiness cert. but if not?
>> Or if the air worthiness is out of date?
>>
>> David
>>
>>
>>
>> It is not legal to fly as it is and because it was previously registered
>> as an LSA it can't be legally re-registered as an Amateur built now.
>>
>> Richard
>>
>>
>>
>> *
>>
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===========
>> *
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> Zulu Delta
> Mk IIIC
> Thanks, Homer GBYM
>
> It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhapp
y.
> - Groucho Marx
>
>
--
Zulu Delta
Mk IIIC
Thanks, Homer GBYM
It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy.
- Groucho Marx
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| Subject: | Re: What mic cover/muff do you use? |
| From: | Dana Hague <d-m-hague(at)comcast.net> |
I use a Comtronics helmet with built in headset. The mike has a foam cover. No
windshield on my Ultrastar. I can hear fine, and people report they can hear me
fine.
-Dana
gotime242 wrote:
Hello all,
I wear a normal david clark headset in my FSII with a very low windscreen, i basically
have the wind coming directly at my head. I can communicate somewhat by
having the volume way up (listen to static the whole time) and placing my hand
over the mic when needing to talk.
What is everyone doing, or what product are people using for their microphones?
I was looking around at different mic muff options but just wanted to see what
people have found works best.
Thanks!
-Dylan
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| Subject: | Re: new video...oil cooler test flight |
| From: | "Thom Riddle" <riddletr(at)gmail.com> |
Chris,
I noticed in this video that you were flying with left door removed. Any affect
on yaw with only one door removed?
I also noticed at the end of the video you mentioned that rear cylinders (CHT I
presume) are running about 320F and your oil temp before installing the oil cooler
was in the 220-230F at 75F OAT.
This summer, is the first time my oil temps got into the yellow area (>212F),
so I was considering adding an oil cooler but probably won't since the heat wave
seems to have passed. Yesterday, with now normal high temps in low 80s, I was
seeing 195-200F oil temps and 270-280 CHTs.
FWIW, my CHTs rarely get to 300F except in extended climb at full throttle. I'm
wondering why so much difference. My engine is serial #1574 (solid lifter). Is
yours a solid lifter or hydraulic lifter engine. I've heard that the hydraulic
lifter engines tend to run a bit hotter.
--------
Thom Riddle
Buffalo, NY (9G0)
Kolb Slingshot SS-021
Jabiru 2200A #1574
Tennessee Prop 64x32
Truth is what stands the test of experience.
- Albert Einstein
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| Subject: | Re: new video...oil cooler test flight |
| From: | zeprep251(at)aol.com |
Chris,
Notice any handling difference with one door of?
G.AmanMK3C
-----Original Message-----
From: ces308 <ces308(at)ldaco.com>
Sent: Sun, Jul 24, 2011 9:45 pm
Subject: Kolb-List: new video...oil cooler test flight
Hello all...
I got the new oil cooler on and took her for a ride to see how she
works....works good ! It dropped my cruise temp by 50* !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DXlXdbL7_zI
Thanks for watching ! Safe trips to all going to Oshkosh...
chris ambrose
M3X/Jabiru A-2200 199.3 hrs
N327CS
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| Subject: | Re: new video...oil cooler test flight |
| From: | "ces308" <ces308(at)ldaco.com> |
Good morning Thom,
My ser # is 1228 and is a solid lifter engine...The heat probs were on the front
(forward half of the engine) until last week. I had no idea what the rear cylinders
were doing and is why I over heated that back cylinder last winter ground
running it.Being that Jabiru is saying 358* in cruise,I figured 320* in cruise
was ok...I am thinking of cutting the scoop off just above the spark plug
hole and raising the top half about 2-3 inches in hopes of catching more air....any
thoughts on that??
Only on 90* and up temps would my oil temp hover between 239-246 and when throttled
back to 25-2600 it would come back down to 238-241...Last weekend when it
was 95* my rear cylinders were 320-322 in cruise...I'm glad I finally put the
cooler on...been kicking it around the 2 years now...
chris ambrose
M3X/Jabiru A 2200
N327CS
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| Subject: | More on the N number issue |
| From: | Richard Girard <aslsa.rng(at)gmail.com> |
I sent this directly to Boyd, but should have copied the Kolb list, too.
Boyd, Sorry if you felt that I was directing my request for no shooting at
you. When I first posted the warning about losing the A/W certificate if an
E-LSA's registration was allowed to lapse on the Rotax engine list, I got
some really abusive private emails for my trouble. There are some real jerks
out there who run Rotax engines.
I'll do the best I can to explain as I understand it.
Buying a type certificated plane, a Cessna or a Mooney, is a lot like buying
a car. You buy the plane and the dealer files the paper work to transfer the
registration to you. The A/W certificate work had been done by the factory.
Just like a car, although with a car you get paperwork that says your car
meets all the Federal regulations about safety, but no single certificate
that has to be carried in the car (a Road Worthiness certificate, if you
will).
Now imagine if cars were like experimental aircraft. You would go to the
dealer and buy the car, then file to register it. Before you could drive it
away, a DMV representative would have to come out, inspect it, examine all
that safety paperwork, make sure the VIN number was stamped on the car's
chassis, and then issue the pink slip.
Now comes re-registration. E-LSA, the FAA's version of the red-headed step
child, is the only category of aircraft that I know of that is affected in
this way. You let the registration lapse and it gets cancelled. You want to
re-register but the form that has to be filed with the 8050-1, "Aircraft
Registration Application" (the three parter), the 8050-88A , "AFFIDAVIT OF
OWNERSHIP" has been revised since February 1st, 2008. In the declaration
section it no longer has the box to check that said, basically, this is a
previously flying aircraft (Fat Ultralight) that I built and flew
quasi-legally under the FAR 103 training exemption. Now, there are only two
boxes, one for S-LSA and one for E-LSA and both require that the aircraft
"will meet all applicable consensus standards" either under FAR 21.190 for
box 1 (S-LSA) or FAR 21.191 i(2) for box 2 (E-LSA). This means that you must
have the Certificate of Compliance that comes with your aircraft or your
kit, respectively. Obviously we "Fat Ultralight" owners don't have that
certificate and can't get one by any reasonable means. Without it, now, you
can't re-register the aircraft. Since we register to get an A/W cert, no
registration, no A/W cert.
Rick
--
Zulu Delta
Mk IIIC
Thanks, Homer GBYM
It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy.
- Groucho Marx
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| From: | Thom Riddle <riddletr(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: new video...oil cooler test flight |
Chris,
I don't know that much about the cooling ducts provided by Jabiru and have
not had to do anything to mine since I bought it. The builder did modify the
entrance by trial and error placement and size of the aluminum plates in the
lower part of the duct entrance. He said that getting this part right is the
secret to getting all the cylinders cooling well. Next time I am at the
hangar (late this week probably) I'll take some measurements and photos of
how mine is set up and post them.
I'm also curious about your EGTs. I have installed only one and it has been
running too cool at cruise and too hot at WOT climb so I ordered several
leaner cruise jets (needle jet) and several richer main jets and installed
them. Did not make much difference in cruise but did lower EGTs a bit on
climb. My carb still has the original Bing jet needle, not the newer Jabiru
designed one. What EGTs are you seeing and is your carb stock?
Thom
On Mon, Jul 25, 2011 at 9:13 AM, ces308 wrote:
>
> Good morning Thom,
>
> My ser # is 1228 and is a solid lifter engine...The heat probs were on the
> front (forward half of the engine) until last week. I had no idea what the
> rear cylinders were doing and is why I over heated that back cylinder last
> winter ground running it.Being that Jabiru is saying 358* in cruise,I
> figured 320* in cruise was ok...I am thinking of cutting the scoop off just
> above the spark plug hole and raising the top half about 2-3 inches in hopes
> of catching more air....any thoughts on that??
>
> Only on 90* and up temps would my oil temp hover between 239-246 and when
> throttled back to 25-2600 it would come back down to 238-241...Last weekend
> when it was 95* my rear cylinders were 320-322 in cruise...I'm glad I
> finally put the cooler on...been kicking it around the 2 years now...
>
> chris ambrose
> M3X/Jabiru A 2200
> N327CS
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=347656#347656
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: DRILLING HOLE IN NEW WELDMENT |
| From: | "racerjerry" <gki(at)suffolk.lib.ny.us> |
Rick & Boyd, I will have to admit that I love your simpler solutions that do not
require access to a machine shop for the fix. Both are quick solutions to a
real problem I am impressed.
Rick, since Lowe's sells 1 x 2 x 2 foot oak boards for $2.24, I see no excuse for
using anything other than the hardwood you suggest. Scrap oak flooring you
may have lying around is ideal too.
This discussion leads me to think of the much more common task of replacing a landing
gear leg and matching existing holes in the fuselage socket. Here, I think
that either of your solutions described here should work great and it should
be mentioned in this forum.
--------
Jerry King
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| From: | "Ralph B" <rstar447(at)gmail.com> |
tkben002
> Thanks Ralph for posting your numbers. I was suprised our empty weights were
so close. I expected the Jabiru to be lighter than the Rotax installation. (do
you have a BRS). Our weights are pretty much the same except you have about
10 more pounds on the tail than I do. I am not sure I understand why yours
has a different cg envelope (mine is 16 to 22.4)
>
> Also, your youtube videos all say private now so I cannot see them. I watched
them plenty of times while deciding if I was going to buy this Kolbra. Is your
insurance going to replace your stolen engine?
>
> thanks
> Travis
Travis and others,
I'm still mourning the loss of my Kolbra as I didn't have theft insurance on it.
I'm in retirement and living on a fixed income. I don't have a whole lot of
money to spend on an engine and avionics. I am thinking of going back to work
to save for this, but it will take some time. When it's done, the Kolbra would
be better than it was before with new equipment.
Who would have thought someone would break into a locked hanger and steal the
engine and panel in the middle of the night? I hope these guys know they are looking
at a minimum of 5 years in a federal prison for doing this.
I didn't have a BRS on the airplane. In fact, I've never flown with a BRS on the
Firestar either.
I was just starting to make videos when the break-in occurred. I was enjoying making
them with my openness and showing all my friends the fun and thrill of flying
including those guys that wanted my engine. It showed them where I was located
and which hanger I was in. Please let this be a lesson for anyone making
public videos on the internet.
I hope my engine and panel don't show up for sale at AirVenture. Please keep and
eye out for it. In the 8 years we've attended the convention, this is the first
year Laurie and I haven't been there.
Thanks,
Ralph B
--------
Ralph B
Original Firestar 447
N91493 E-AB
1000 hours
24 years flying it
Kolbra 912UL (engine and avionics stolen on 5/17/11. Hanger break-in)
N20386
done flying it
150 hrs
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| From: | "SS568" <david(at)PaulowniaTrees.com> |
Greetings again to all
This has been a great exchange of info. I have belonged to many forums(non aviation)
and this one has them all beat as to content and attacks on other posters.
Attack the message and not the messenger is an excellent guideline.
Now to be sure that I have this straight:
1. If I go to look at a LSA (used). Then before kicking any tires etc. ask for
a N number. And it associated paperwork.
2. Then ask for the AW certificate, and see that it is in date.
I presume it is not legal to fly without these two.
Is there anything else , other than a bill of sale?
Thanks,
David d.
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| From: | "Thom Riddle" <riddletr(at)gmail.com> |
David,
For a registered aircraft to be legal for flight, the AROW documents must be in
the aircraft:
A - Airworthiness certificate
R- Registration certificate
O - Operating Limitations
W- Weight and Balance information (current)
It must also have a current (within last 12 calendar months) condition inspection
recorded in the aircraft logbook.
--------
Thom Riddle
Buffalo, NY (9G0)
Kolb Slingshot SS-021
Jabiru 2200A #1574
Tennessee Prop 64x32
Truth is what stands the test of experience.
- Albert Einstein
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| Subject: | Re: new camera mount. |
| From: | "Mystic" <cheoah68(at)gmail.com> |
john tempest you tube video.....
the video was interesting..would like to know camera you were using and mount.
Hi Jim,
My Camera is a Kodak Playsport that was a gift from sister to take on kayaking
trips. It's waterproof and works great for that.
It wasn't until I uploaded the first videos and watched them on my computer that
I realized what a true gem this little thing is. The clips you see on you tube
do not do this thing justice. The picture quality is amazing.
My only complaint was short battery life, but I found some cheap spares on E-bay,(that
were actaully higher capacity than the Kodak supplied one) so it's no
issue now.
Being a proletarian, I used a very simple/low tech approach to mounting my camera
(cheap). I drilled 1/4 inch hole in bottom of tail boom, just forward of tailwheel
rod. I used long tongs to drop in a 1/4 inch thumb screw with small washer
so that I had about a half inch of threads poking out the bottom. I then
used a nylon nut to secure the thumb screw in tight.
The nylon nut allows me to screw my camera (in a up-side-down attitude) on the
thumb screw, snug it up tight and face it straight without damaging threads inside
camera.(which are plastic)
I then use the camera tether (wrist strap) with a zip-tie looped thru the tailwheel
gap to put a rear pull on the camera which points it down a little more and
stiffens it up.
Once I upload the footage, I use quicktime pro to invert the video to right-side-up.
I'm sure there are other, probably better ways to do it. And ones that don't involve
poking a hole in your plane. But I'll bet it can't be done any cheaper.
John Tempest
Firestar Classic
447
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| Subject: | Re: What mic cover/muff do you use? |
| From: | "gotime242" <dylanshine(at)gmail.com> |
Thanks for the replies all.
I currently have a foam cover on there now, but i think ill try that Oregon aero
cover sock...i mean heck it looks almost like i could make one to try and see
if it will work first.
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| Subject: | Re: new video...oil cooler test flight |
| From: | "ces308" <ces308(at)ldaco.com> |
Thom...
First thing ...I can tell no difference with 1 door off...I take alot of pictures
and they come out much nicer with the door off...AND it's half as windy leaving
1 door on...lol
Second...Since I moved the temp probes to cylinders 1 & 2...my egt's are on 3 &
4 and they run 1310 and 1186 respectively... when I had the muffler off last
week cyl 1,3,4, all had a nice dark tan / light brown to the exhaust pipes but
2 was a real light tan..like maybe running a little lean.Couldn't see where
it could have been maybe sucking a little air...??
What the heck should they be running at anyway?? And Jabs seem to have weird fuel
distribution habits....
chris ambrose
M3X/Jab
N327CS
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| Subject: | Re: new video...oil cooler test flight |
| From: | "Thom Riddle" <riddletr(at)gmail.com> |
Chris,
The target EGT range for cruise (70% power or less) is between 1256F and 1382F.
At any power setting above 70% they want it richer, in the range of 1184F - 1256F.
Mine runs up to over 1300F during climb at 55 mph and WOT but decreases
to around 1250 or so if I increase the climb airspeed to 60 mph or above. That
is good enough for me since 60 mph is Vy in my Slingshot. At cruise mine is running
around 1225F or so, even with the leaner needle jet per Jabiru's recommendation.
I think I need the Jabiru jet needle to get it right. Of course, it
could be the our props that make the difference. Mine is a good bit longer than
yours (64"). My plugs are a little on the dark side of ideal which more or less
confirms the EGT readings.
Pete Krotje of Jabiru USA says you can bias the mixture a bit from one side to
the other by tilting the carb 10-15 degrees or so to one side but I don't recall
which way he says to tilt it for the bias you want. I have only one EGT probe
and 3 CHTs. My CHTs all run within 20 degrees of each other under most all
conditions.
In the hot wx we've had recently, I'd like very much to be able to fly without
a door.
--------
Thom Riddle
Buffalo, NY (9G0)
Kolb Slingshot SS-021
Jabiru 2200A #1574
Tennessee Prop 64x32
Truth is what stands the test of experience.
- Albert Einstein
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| From: | chris davis <capedavis(at)yahoo.com> |
William ,The best I could learn was 3450 pounds ,or over $5000 out of my pr
ice =0Arange- there are plenty of 447s for sale $1500 -$2000 and can be r
ebuilt for =0Aaround $500 plus parts I have always loved the rotary rngine
and think it would =0Ago great on an aircraft!=0A-Chris Davis=0AKXP 503 4
92 hrs=0AGlider Pilot=0ADisabled from crash building Firefly =0A=0A=0A=0A
=0A________________________________=0AFrom: william sullivan <williamtsulli
van(at)att.net>=0ATo: kolb-list(at)matronics.com=0ASent: Sun, July 24, 2011 8:04:
36 AM=0ASubject: Re: Kolb-List: Aixro XR50=0A=0A=0A- Chris- Looks very in
teresting.- I couldn't seem to find details in a short =0Asearch.- I ho
pe you can.- They do sell an aircraft model- XR40- but no specs or =0Apri
ce on that.- What about reduction?- They are saying over 10k rpm max.?
- =0ASomething to keep in mind if the rumor of the 447 demise is true.-
Vibration =0Awould be way down.=0A=0A------------
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davis =0A>=0A>Has anyone dealt with this engine? Know
the Price etc?weight?any other rotary =0A>engine within reason price wise?
=0A>-Chris Davis=0A>KXP 503 492 hrs=0A>Glider Pilot=0A>Disabled from cras
h building Firefly =0A>=0A>http://f=- - - - - ---- List C
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| From: | "SS568" <david(at)PaulowniaTrees.com> |
Thanks to all I have a better understanding of what to look for when looking at
a used craft.
This info may have saved me a lot of misery. And most likely helped others also.
I will keep my AROW close by.
Thanks
David d.
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| Subject: | Re: What mic cover/muff do you use? |
| From: | "David Lucas" <d_a_lucas(at)hotmail.com> |
I wonder how one of those throat microphone systems might work ?
http://www.planetairsoft.net/reviews/review-sniperpro.htm
Just curious.
David.
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| From: | "Jack B. Hart" <jbhart(at)onlyinternet.net> |
| Subject: | Re: What mic cover/muff do you use? |
>
>I wonder how one of those throat microphone systems might work ?
>
>http://www.planetairsoft.net/reviews/review-sniperpro.htm
>
>Just curious.
>
David,
I have been using a throat microphone with a, currently, old hand held
Yaesu "Aviator Pro VXA-100". It works very well, but requires some
electronic kit building, and trial and error. Not fun. Part of my problem
is the Yaesu used a non standard setup for keying the microphone, etc. If
you would like to see one persons effort to solve this problem, see:
http://jackbhart.com/firefly/firefly110.html
Note: most of my engine electrical noise disappeared when I moved the engine
magneto kill switch back on or near the engine. This indicates that this
wire should be kept as short as possible and/or shielded to ground.
Jack B. Hart FF004
Winchester, IN
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| From: | Clyde MacQuarrie <clydemacquarrie(at)eastlink.ca> |
| Subject: | New Kolb in the skies. |
I have started taking flying lessons in my new Mark111C. It has a 582, reduction
gear and a three blade prop purchased from Travis at Kolb. Could someone tell
me the proper blade degree of pitch? The rudder requires a trim tab so information
or a drawing would be appreciated. It has been my life's dream (not my
wife's) to own and fly my own airplane. I will be 79 in Sept and hope to be
able to land it by then. I have a qualified ultralight instructor who has given
me six lessons ( 6 hrs.) and hope to get four per week, weather permitting.
Clyde MacQuarrie, Alder Point, Nova Scotia, Canada.
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| Subject: | Re: New Kolb in the skies. |
| From: | Richard Girard <aslsa.rng(at)gmail.com> |
Clyde, With a 582 two stroke Rotax engine on a Mk IIIC, propeller pitch
should be set to reach 5900 to 6100 rpm at full throttle while climbing at
45 to 50 mph. You can get a good approximation be setting it while the plane
is tied down (be sure and tie it down at the tail or it will go over on its
nose), then make a fine adjustment after you fly it.
Rick Girard
On Wed, Jul 27, 2011 at 12:18 PM, Clyde MacQuarrie <
clydemacquarrie(at)eastlink.ca> wrote:
> **
> I have started taking flying lessons in my new Mark111C. It has a 582,
> reduction gear and a three blade prop purchased from Travis at Kolb. Could
> someone tell me the proper blade degree of pitch? The rudder requires a
> trim tab so information or a drawing would be appreciated. It has been my
> life's dream (not my wife's) to own and fly my own airplane. I will be 79 in
> Sept and hope to be able to land it by then. I have a qualified ultralight
> instructor who has given me six lessons ( 6 hrs.) and hope to get four per
> week, weather permitting. Clyde MacQuarrie, Alder Point, Nova Scotia,
> Canada.
>
--
Zulu Delta
Mk IIIC
Thanks, Homer GBYM
It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy.
- Groucho Marx
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| Subject: | Re: New Kolb in the skies. |
| From: | "Vic Peters" <vicsv(at)myfairpoint.net> |
You Goooooo Clyde
We're almost neighbors
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Vic
912ul Xtra
Maine
Too old to cut the mustard but not the cheese.
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| Subject: | Happens to the best of Us |
| From: | "Dennis Thate" <retroman(at)frontier.com> |
DEAD STICK !
http://www.patricksaviation.com/videos/SUPERGT/3384/
--------
Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents
the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern
Faith is believing what you know ain't so - Mark Twain
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| Subject: | Re: Happens to the best of Us |
| From: | "Richard Pike" <richard(at)bcchapel.org> |
Mark Twain was wrong.
Richard Pike
MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
Pastor, Blountville Community Chapel
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| From: | russ kinne <russkinne(at)mac.com> |
| Subject: | Re: New Kolb in the skies. |
Clyde
Congratulations! -- GO FOR IT! -- 6 hrs? you shouldn't need a lot more instruction.
I solo'd a Cessna at less than 9 hrs, starting from scratch, and Kolbs are
easier, and pattern work quicker. Try to solo before winter sets in? There's
no magic to it --
Fair winds,
Russ K
On Jul 27, 2011, at 1:18 PM, Clyde MacQuarrie wrote:
> I have started taking flying lessons in my new Mark111C. It has a 582, reduction
gear and a three blade prop purchased from Travis at Kolb. Could someone tell
me the proper blade degree of pitch? The rudder requires a trim tab so information
or a drawing would be appreciated. It has been my life's dream (not
my wife's) to own and fly my own airplane. I will be 79 in Sept and hope to be
able to land it by then. I have a qualified ultralight instructor who has given
me six lessons ( 6 hrs.) and hope to get four per week, weather permitting.
Clyde MacQuarrie, Alder Point, Nova Scotia, Canada.
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| From: | Herb <herbgh(at)nctc.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Happens to the best of Us |
He was an atheist also...:-) Herb
At 07:18 PM 7/27/2011, you wrote:
>
>Mark Twain was wrong.
>
>Richard Pike
>MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
>Pastor, Blountville Community Chapel
>
>
>Read this topic online here:
>
>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=347878#347878
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Happens to the best of Us |
| From: | "Dennis Thate" <retroman(at)frontier.com> |
I would have to agree...... Cant be easy when youre dead-sticking in on something
with the glide ratio of a grand piano.
--------
Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents
the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern
Faith is believing what you know ain't so - Mark Twain
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| Subject: | New Firestar at Oshkosh |
| From: | "Jimmy Young" <jdy100(at)comcast.net> |
Kolb Aircraft has introduced a new side by side two seater Firestar at Oshkosh.
I talked with Travis while I was there, and he said it can be configured either
as a taildragger or a tricycle gear as shown. He told me any existing Firestar
II can be transformed by switching out the fuse cage, as the wings & tail
boom & empennage are the same. It has the droop-tip wing fairing as well. This
one had a 582 on it, and they said a 503 or 582 is what it's designed around.
I'd like to change mine out just for the extra cabin space!
This was my first visit to Oshkosh and I had a great trip. Wisconsin is a beautiful
state and unbelievably clean, much cleaner than my home state. We stayed
in a U of W - Oshkosh dorm room. I like the north's version of a heat wave, but
I wouldn't do well there in the winter. All in all, I had a perfectly good week
off doing nothing but airplane related activities.
--------
Jimmy Young
Missouri City, TX
Kolb FS II/HKS 700
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| Subject: | Re: Mk IIIC in Kansas |
| From: | Richard Girard <aslsa.rng(at)gmail.com> |
Mike, I appreciate the offer, but there are things you just can't get to
after the fuselage is covered.
At this point I think I'll finish the Firestar first, put the 582 on it and
have a hot rod to play around in then sell it next spring to finance a new
cage for the Mk III, or not.
Rick
On Wed, Jul 20, 2011 at 2:45 PM, Mike Welch wrote:
> Rick,
>
> Although I'm not in Kansas anymore, (same as Dorothy & ToTo), I wouldn't
> mind making dozens of measurements
> and LOTs of pictures for you, if you want. Just let me know.
>
> I'm in Tampa, though, on a mini-vacation. We're headed back home on
> Saturday/Sunday. If you could wait until
> Monday, I'll get ya all the info you'll need.
>
> Mike Welch
> (PS. For the record....none of "that" area of my fuselage is altered to be
> an Xtra....in other words, it's identical to
> yours..just straighter.)
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Wed, 20 Jul 2011 10:14:24 -0500
> Subject: Kolb-List: Mk IIIC in Kansas
> From: aslsa.rng(at)gmail.com
> To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
>
> I don't suppose there are any lurkers who are Mk IIIC builders in Kansas or
> Oklahoma, are there? Preferably with an uncovered fuselage weldment so I can
> take lots of measurements. Mine took a good twist when the left main gear
> was pulled off and I have no idea how far the damage spread through the
> truss.
>
> Rick Girard
>
> --
> Zulu Delta
> Mk IIIC
> Thanks, Homer GBYM
>
> It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy.
> - Groucho Marx
>
>
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>
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Zulu Delta
Mk IIIC
Thanks, Homer GBYM
It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy.
- Groucho Marx
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| From: | chris davis <capedavis(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Re: New Firestar at Oshkosh |
Jimmy ,It apoears that Kolb had a spot at the ultralight field did they have any
flying , two years ago when we got there they had nothingon the field just a
booth in the main area.
Chris Davis
KXP 503 492 hrs
Glider Pilot
Disabled from crash building Firefly
----- Original Message ----
From: Jimmy Young <jdy100(at)comcast.net>
Sent: Thu, July 28, 2011 8:56:13 AM
Subject: Kolb-List: New Firestar at Oshkosh
Kolb Aircraft has introduced a new side by side two seater Firestar at Oshkosh.
I talked with Travis while I was there, and he said it can be configured either
as a taildragger or a tricycle gear as shown. He told me any existing Firestar
II can be transformed by switching out the fuse cage, as the wings & tail boom
&
empennage are the same. It has the droop-tip wing fairing as well. This one had
a 582 on it, and they said a 503 or 582 is what it's designed around. I'd like
to change mine out just for the extra cabin space!
This was my first visit to Oshkosh and I had a great trip. Wisconsin is a
beautiful state and unbelievably clean, much cleaner than my home state. We
stayed in a U of W - Oshkosh dorm room. I like the north's version of a heat
wave, but I wouldn't do well there in the winter. All in all, I had a perfectly
good week off doing nothing but airplane related activities.
--------
Jimmy Young
Missouri City, TX
Kolb FS II/HKS 700
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| From: | "Jerry Deckard" <flypoker(at)windstream.net> |
| Subject: | Re: New Firestar at Oshkosh |
More details? Daul controls? What is diff in this and MK III?
Jerry
----- Original Message -----
From: "chris davis" <capedavis(at)yahoo.com>
Sent: Thursday, July 28, 2011 9:10 AM
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: New Firestar at Oshkosh
>
> Jimmy ,It apoears that Kolb had a spot at the ultralight field did they
> have any
> flying , two years ago when we got there they had nothing on the field
> just a
> booth in the main area.
> Chris Davis
> KXP 503 492 hrs
> Glider Pilot
> Disabled from crash building Firefly
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> From: Jimmy Young <jdy100(at)comcast.net>
> To: kolb-list(at)matronics.com
> Sent: Thu, July 28, 2011 8:56:13 AM
> Subject: Kolb-List: New Firestar at Oshkosh
>
>
> Kolb Aircraft has introduced a new side by side two seater Firestar at
> Oshkosh.
> I talked with Travis while I was there, and he said it can be configured
> either
> as a taildragger or a tricycle gear as shown. He told me any existing
> Firestar
> II can be transformed by switching out the fuse cage, as the wings & tail
> boom &
> empennage are the same. It has the droop-tip wing fairing as well. This
> one had
> a 582 on it, and they said a 503 or 582 is what it's designed around. I'd
> like
> to change mine out just for the extra cabin space!
>
> This was my first visit to Oshkosh and I had a great trip. Wisconsin is a
> beautiful state and unbelievably clean, much cleaner than my home state.
> We
> stayed in a U of W - Oshkosh dorm room. I like the north's version of a
> heat
> wave, but I wouldn't do well there in the winter. All in all, I had a
> perfectly
> good week off doing nothing but airplane related activities.
>
> --------
> Jimmy Young
> Missouri City, TX
> Kolb FS II/HKS 700
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=347912#347912
>
>
> Attachments:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/100_0009_225.jpg
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Mike Welch <mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.com> |
| Subject: | Mk IIIC in Kansas |
Rick=2C
Ok=2C but the offer to take photos etc=2C still stands. Something to pon
der=2C though=2C
I DO know of a guy with a MkIIIC cage that is NOT covered.
His name is Brian Fell. He contacted the Kolb list back around November
asking
if anyone had converted a MkIIIC to an X. I mentioned Ken's Xtra that you
were working on=2C
and of course=2C mine.
He and I have had lots of 'off-list' emails=2C where I was suggesting how
I'd go about the
change differently=2C etc. He is VERY slow to get going with his conversio
n=2C evidently $$$
slowing him down quite a bit.
About 3 weeks ago=2C he reemerged when he sent me a 'joking' email of his
newly
arrived Xtra nosecone=2C propped in place on the front of the MkIIIC frame.
...and said it
didn't fit. The last I heard prior to going on our mini-vacation was he ha
dn't started anything yet.
If you haven't had much of a response to your request for your MkIIIC inf
o=2C
etc=2C and you are still in need of 'bare frame' measurements=2C pictures
=2C dimensions=2C etc=2C let me
know=2C and I'll see if I can get him to get you fixed up. Whatever works
best!
Mike
Date: Thu=2C 28 Jul 2011 08:57:35 -0500
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Mk IIIC in Kansas
From: aslsa.rng(at)gmail.com
Mike=2C I appreciate the offer=2C but there are things you just can't get t
o after the fuselage is covered. At this point I think I'll finish the Fire
star first=2C put the 582 on it and have a hot rod to play around in then s
ell it next spring to finance a new cage for the Mk III=2C or not.
Rick
On Wed=2C Jul 20=2C 2011 at 2:45 PM=2C Mike Welch
wrote:
Rick=2C
Although I'm not in Kansas anymore=2C (same as Dorothy & ToTo)=2C I would
n't mind making dozens of measurements
and LOTs of pictures for you=2C if you want. Just let me know.
I'm in Tampa=2C though=2C on a mini-vacation. We're headed back home on
Saturday/Sunday. If you could wait until
Monday=2C I'll get ya all the info you'll need.
Mike Welch
(PS. For the record....none of "that" area of my fuselage is altered to be
an Xtra....in other words=2C it's identical to
yours..just straighter.)
Date: Wed=2C 20 Jul 2011 10:14:24 -0500
Subject: Kolb-List: Mk IIIC in Kansas
From: aslsa.rng(at)gmail.com
I don't suppose there are any lurkers who are Mk IIIC builders in Kansas or
Oklahoma=2C are there? Preferably with an uncovered fuselage weldment so I
can take lots of measurements. Mine took a good twist when the left main g
ear was pulled off and I have no idea how far the damage spread through the
truss.
Rick Girard
--
Zulu DeltaMk IIICThanks=2C Homer GBYM
It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy.
- Groucho Marx
arget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List
http://forums.matronics.com
="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List
tp://forums.matronics.com
_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
--
Zulu DeltaMk IIICThanks=2C Homer GBYM
It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy.
- Groucho Marx
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | chris davis <capedavis(at)yahoo.com> |
Kolbers and all I have downloaded anti malware so I hope this crap is over
please let me knowif I doesnt!
Chris Davis
KXP 503 492 hrs
Glider Pilot
Disabled from crash building Firefly
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | william sullivan <williamtsullivan(at)att.net> |
- Came through Ok, and so did your valid post late yesterday.- Good luc
k.
-
-------------------------
---------------------- Bill
--- On Thu, 7/28/11, chris davis wrote:
From: chris davis <capedavis(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Kolb-List: malware
Date: Thursday, July 28, 2011, 1:25 PM
Kolbers and- all I have downloaded anti malware so I hope this crap is ov
er
please let me know-if I doesnt!
-Chris Davis
KXP 503 492 hrs
Glider Pilot
Disabled from crash building Firefly
le, List Admin.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Mike Welch <mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.com> |
| Subject: | Mk IIIC in Kansas |
Kolb list people=2C
My apologies for the last email response to Rick G being sent to this lis
t. It was only
intended to be returned to Rick G. When he responded to me off-list to my
offer to help=2C
I intended my reply to only just go to him=2C and never noticed when I push
ed "reply" that it
addressed itself back to the Kolb list. Oops. Sorry.
Brian Fell=2C Howdy!! Guess what I was going to ask you to do for Rick G
? haha
Mike Welch
From: mdnanwelch7(at)hotmail.com
Subject: RE: Kolb-List: Mk IIIC in Kansas
Date: Thu=2C 28 Jul 2011 09:49:47 -0700
Rick=2C
Ok=2C but the offer to take photos etc=2C still stands. Something to pon
der=2C though=2C
I DO know of a guy with a MkIIIC cage that is NOT covered.
His name is Brian Fell. He contacted the Kolb list back around November
asking
if anyone had converted a MkIIIC to an X. I mentioned Ken's Xtra that you
were working on=2C
and of course=2C mine.
He and I have had lots of 'off-list' emails=2C where I was suggesting how
I'd go about the
change differently=2C etc. He is VERY slow to get going with his conversio
n=2C evidently $$$
slowing him down quite a bit.
About 3 weeks ago=2C he reemerged when he sent me a 'joking' email of his
newly
arrived Xtra nosecone=2C propped in place on the front of the MkIIIC frame.
...and said it
didn't fit. The last I heard prior to going on our mini-vacation was he ha
dn't started anything yet.
If you haven't had much of a response to your request for your MkIIIC inf
o=2C
etc=2C and you are still in need of 'bare frame' measurements=2C pictures
=2C dimensions=2C etc=2C let me
know=2C and I'll see if I can get him to get you fixed up. Whatever works
best!
Mike
Date: Thu=2C 28 Jul 2011 08:57:35 -0500
Subject: Re: Kolb-List: Mk IIIC in Kansas
From: aslsa.rng(at)gmail.com
Mike=2C I appreciate the offer=2C but there are things you just can't get t
o after the fuselage is covered. At this point I think I'll finish the Fire
star first=2C put the 582 on it and have a hot rod to play around in then s
ell it next spring to finance a new cage for the Mk III=2C or not.
Rick
On Wed=2C Jul 20=2C 2011 at 2:45 PM=2C Mike Welch
wrote:
Rick=2C
Although I'm not in Kansas anymore=2C (same as Dorothy & ToTo)=2C I would
n't mind making dozens of measurements
and LOTs of pictures for you=2C if you want. Just let me know.
I'm in Tampa=2C though=2C on a mini-vacation. We're headed back home on
Saturday/Sunday. If you could wait until
Monday=2C I'll get ya all the info you'll need.
Mike Welch
(PS. For the record....none of "that" area of my fuselage is altered to be
an Xtra....in other words=2C it's identical to
yours..just straighter.)
Date: Wed=2C 20 Jul 2011 10:14:24 -0500
Subject: Kolb-List: Mk IIIC in Kansas
From: aslsa.rng(at)gmail.com
I don't suppose there are any lurkers who are Mk IIIC builders in Kansas or
Oklahoma=2C are there? Preferably with an uncovered fuselage weldment so I
can take lots of measurements. Mine took a good twist when the left main g
ear was pulled off and I have no idea how far the damage spread through the
truss.
Rick Girard
--
Zulu DeltaMk IIICThanks=2C Homer GBYM
It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy.
- Groucho Marx
arget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List
http://forums.matronics.com
="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
get="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List
tp://forums.matronics.com
_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
--
Zulu DeltaMk IIICThanks=2C Homer GBYM
It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy.
- Groucho Marx
arget="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List
http://forums.matronics.com
="_blank">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Bob Green <bgreen(at)bimi.org> |
All the gang.
It was great to see Travis, his wife, Bryan and Rick Neilsen and Craig Spoke at
the Kolb display at OSH.
Thank you all for your friendship. It was great to talk with you. Just makes
me want to work harder at getting my MKIII finished and flying.
Glad to hear about the new products and that Bryan is building planes as fast as
he can. Hopefully great days are ahead for KOLB and the Kolb builders and
flyers.
Bob Green
MKIIIX, N830PB
GPAS VW with re-drive.
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | History of Kolb aircraft |
| From: | Richard Girard <aslsa.rng(at)gmail.com> |
I was doing a search for something about Kolbs the other day and a link
popped up to this. I tried doing a search of the Matronics archives to see
if it had ever been posted before and didn't see anything. If it's old news,
I apologize.
Rick Girard
--
Zulu Delta
Mk IIIC
Thanks, Homer GBYM
It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy.
- Groucho Marx
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | robert bean <slyck(at)frontiernet.net> |
shot about 6:00PM this evening, sunday, July 31, 2011. Nice day but
something else always competes for flying time.
IMG_0652
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Malcolm Brubaker <brubakermal(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Re: History of Kolb aircraft |
last fall my wife and got a real nice tour of Homers -hanger and shop fro
m dick,=0Awe wher ther to look at the firestar. we got alot of pics of the
planes hanging from the cealing. it was a nice time--- mal-=0A=0AMa
lcolm & Jeanne Brubaker =0AMichigan Sport Pilot Repair =0ALSRM-A, PPC, WS
=0AGreat Sails - Sailmaker =0Afor Ultralight & Light Sport=0A(989)513-3022
=0A=0AFrom: robert bean <slyck(at)frontiernet.net>=0ATo: kolb-list(at)matronics.c
om=0ASent: Sunday, July 31, 2011 6:55 PM=0ASubject: Re: Kolb-List: History
of Kolb aircraft=0A=0A=0Anot sure I've seen that one. There are several his
torical spots hidden in obscurity. -Homer was a special guy. =0ABB=0Ado n
ot archive=0A=0A=0AOn 31, Jul 2011, at 6:11 PM, Richard Girard wrote:=0A=0A
===================
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| From: | TheWanderingWench <thewanderingwench(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Urgent Need for an Engine part - in Minneapolis area |
=0A=0AHi gang -=0A-=0AThree of us left Oshkosh yesterday, and got grounde
d in Faribalut, MN when Wayne discovered that his HKS was missing a compone
nt from his carbuerator.=0A-=0AAny of you who are in the area and have a
Bing 64 carbuerator which is used on a Rotax 912, HKS or Jabiru (no, the 50
3 and the 582 don't have the same type)...Wayne needs the atomizer/diffuser
, part # 961-200. He'll gladly buy you a new one - we just want to find one
quickly so we can be on our way back to Oregon.=0A-=0AIf you have one or
know of someone who does in the greater Minneapolis area, please call Wayn
e immediately at 541.954.2018.=0A-=0AMANY THANKS!!!=0A-=0AArty=0A-=0A
-=0Awww.LessonsFromTheEdge.com/oshkosh/=0A=0A=0A=0A"Life's a daring adven
ture or nothing"=0AHelen Keller=0A=0A=0A"I refuse to tip toe through life j
ust to arrive safely at death."
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| Subject: | Re: History of Kolb aircraft |
| From: | "Dennis Thate" <retroman(at)frontier.com> |
Thanks, Great Post and new to me. Homer's early design seemed a fish out of water
in the early years of the ultra lite movement. But his three axis control set
him apart from some of the weight shift death traps of the early days.
Homer always took the time to visit with you and answer any questions you had.
It took twenty years for me to finally own a Kolb Firestar...but it was worth
the wait.
Great Guy, Great Plane !
RIP Homer
--------
Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents
the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern
Faith is believing what you know ain't so - Mark Twain
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=348285#348285
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: History of Kolb aircraft |
| From: | "Richard Pike" <richard(at)bcchapel.org> |
Mark Twain is still wrong.
Richard Pike
Pastor, Blountville Community Chapel
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=348323#348323
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Herb <herbgh(at)nctc.com> |
| Subject: | Re: History of Kolb aircraft |
yep!! A man without a Kolb is a man without a soul....:-) Herb
At 08:58 PM 8/1/2011, you wrote:
>
>Mark Twain is still wrong.
>
>Richard Pike
>Pastor, Blountville Community Chapel
>
>
>Read this topic online here:
>
>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=348323#348323
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: History of Kolb aircraft |
| From: | "Mic" <miceire(at)gmail.com> |
Thank you Rick for the history link. My son and I look forward to building our
own MKIII Xtra with a GP VW conversion and making a contribution to the history
of this fine line of aircraft.
--------
"Gods are fragile things, they may be killed by a whiff of science or a dose
of common sense." - Chapman Cohen
"God is my favorite fictional character" - Homer Simpson
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=348328#348328
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | New Owner, Enlighten me please |
| From: | "Dennis Thate" <retroman(at)frontier.com> |
My Kolb Firestar II / Rotax 503 Experimental with only 80 hours on the airframe
& engine, now needs it's first annual inspection in August . I'm now the second
owner, I didn't build it so I need an A&P to do the inspection.
What does this inspection consist of ? What forms do I need to provide the A&P
with ? What forms does he need to sign. What is a typical cost of this condition
inspection. What does the A&P inspect?
Any accurate info would for a legal inspection would be appreciated.
[Question] Thanks
--------
Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents
the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern
Faith is believing what you know ain't so - Mark Twain
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=348351#348351
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: New Owner, Enlighten me please |
| From: | robert bean <slyck(at)frontiernet.net> |
The same procedure as an annual but called a "condition inspection"
Log book entry
BB
On 2, Aug 2011, at 8:48 AM, Dennis Thate wrote:
>
> My Kolb Firestar II / Rotax 503 Experimental with only 80 hours on the airframe
& engine, now needs it's first annual inspection in August . I'm now the second
owner, I didn't build it so I need an A&P to do the inspection.
>
> What does this inspection consist of ? What forms do I need to provide the A&P
with ? What forms does he need to sign. What is a typical cost of this condition
inspection. What does the A&P inspect?
>
> Any accurate info would for a legal inspection would be appreciated.
>
> [Question] Thanks
>
> --------
> Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents
the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern
>
>
> Faith is believing what you know ain't so - Mark Twain
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=348351#348351
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: New Owner, Enlighten me please |
| From: | "gotime242" <dylanshine(at)gmail.com> |
The cost really depends on who you get to do it. Most AP's will never touch and
aircraft such as a kolb to do a condition inspections...or anything else for
that matter. So you will have to find one that is comfortable with these experimental
airplanes. What most people end up doing is having a freind who is an
AP do it for a couple hundred bucks or less. If you took it to a shop that you
dont know at all, and they agree to do it...i cant say what it might cost, could
be quite a bit.
As far as forms go, once complete he will need to add an Annual Condition Inspection
log entry to your airframe and engine logbooks, and he will check your a/c
registration and airworthiness. Thats really about it aside from whatever
he has you fill out.
The AP will inspect the condition of the entire aircraft.
I attached a non-official inspection checklist that someone else on this forum
had for a Kolbra and changed it a little bit, to give you an idea of what to look
for.
Hope this helps.
-Dylan
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=348355#348355
Attachments:
http://forums.matronics.com//files/annual_inspection_checklist_174.doc
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | David Kulp <undoctor(at)ptd.net> |
| Subject: | Re: History of Kolb aircraft |
Subject: Re: History of Kolb aircraft
From: "Dennis Thate" <retroman(at)frontier.com>
Thanks, Great Post and new to me. Homer's early design seemed a
fish out of water
in the early years of the ultra lite movement. But his three axis
control set
him apart from some of the weight shift death traps of the early
days.
Hello Kolbers,
I don't get some attachments so I don't know if this has been included
in the thread.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the ultralight movement began in
the '80s when
they began hanging engines on hang gliders, hence the wight shift
models. However,
as you can see in the attached photo, Homer was building real three axis
"ultralights"
about 30 years before they existed.
This photo is from '56 which puts Homer in his early 20s. The aircraft
was powered
by 4 chainsaw engines. This is early history of the fine aircraft we
are fortunate
enough to fly.
Best,
Dave Kulp
Bethlehem, PA
FireFly 11DMK
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: History of Kolb aircraft |
| From: | Richard Girard <aslsa.rng(at)gmail.com> |
Actually it was the mid 70's. I had a Mac 101 powered Easy Riser in '76 and
a Soarmaster power pack on a Phoenix 8 Sr. in '78.
Rick Girard
On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 9:05 AM, David Kulp wrote:
>
> Subject: Re: History of Kolb aircraft
> From: "Dennis Thate" <retroman(at)frontier.com>
>
>
> Thanks, Great Post and new to me. Homer's early design seemed a fish
> out of water
> in the early years of the ultra lite movement. But his three axis
> control set
> him apart from some of the weight shift death traps of the early days.
>
> Hello Kolbers,
>
> I don't get some attachments so I don't know if this has been included in
> the thread.
> Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the ultralight movement began in the
> '80s when
> they began hanging engines on hang gliders, hence the wight shift models.
> However,
> as you can see in the attached photo, Homer was building real three axis
> "ultralights"
> about 30 years before they existed.
>
> This photo is from '56 which puts Homer in his early 20s. The aircraft was
> powered
> by 4 chainsaw engines. This is early history of the fine aircraft we are
> fortunate
> enough to fly.
>
> Best,
>
> Dave Kulp
> Bethlehem, PA
> FireFly 11DMK
>
--
Zulu Delta
Mk IIIC
Thanks, Homer GBYM
It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be unhappy.
- Groucho Marx
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: History of Kolb aircraft |
| From: | "Dennis Thate" <retroman(at)frontier.com> |
Airframe Info
Manufacturer: Kolb
Model: KOLB FEATHER Search all Kolb KOLB FEATHER
Year built: 0000
Construction Number (C/N): K2
Number of Seats: 1
Number of Engines: 1
Aircraft
Registration Number: N2HK
Mode S Code: 50307012
Current Status: Deregistered
http://www.airport-data.com/aircraft/N2HK.html
Well Homer was definitely a pioneer !
--------
Both optimists and pessimists contribute to our society. The optimist invents
the airplane and the pessimist the parachute. ~Gil Stern
Faith is believing what you know ain't so - Mark Twain
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=348403#348403
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | robert bean <slyck(at)frontiernet.net> |
| Subject: | Re: History of Kolb aircraft |
Several years ago I had stopped in at a neighbor's place who has a back
yard strip and watched a pterodactal fly.
Being a guy with a license and a real airplane, I was content with my
lot in life but, just the same, quite curious about
these rigs of cable and slipcover wings. -the better ones were actually
sort of inviting.
The driver was a hippie looking guy, ponytail and berkenstocks. Seemed
a little standoffish or aloof. About what, I don't know.
He spent a long time on his preflight which, considering the plane, was
certainly in order. Then he climbed aboard,
started and took off. -alarming angle of climb, leveling off a couple
hundred feet above and did a turn tight enough that the inboard wingtip
could have been on a pivot post.
Well maybe it WAS capable of the climb angle, but I knew for certain
that if that thing quit he was in a pickle.
Sure enough, I talked to the neighbor a few years after that event and
was informed that he had been seriously broken up in an accident.
Maybe one of you guyz who did fly these early kits can tell me why you
would have spent as much money on one as a real
airplane. ???? I might have bought one but the economics looked like a
bad deal.
BB
MkIII, suzuki
-close enough to a real airplane for me
On 2, Aug 2011, at 12:50 PM, Richard Girard wrote:
> Actually it was the mid 70's. I had a Mac 101 powered Easy Riser in
'76 and a Soarmaster power pack on a Phoenix 8 Sr. in '78.
>
> Rick Girard
>
> On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 9:05 AM, David Kulp wrote:
>
> Subject: Re: History of Kolb aircraft
> From: "Dennis Thate" <retroman(at)frontier.com>
>
>
> Thanks, Great Post and new to me. Homer's early design seemed a
fish out of water
> in the early years of the ultra lite movement. But his three axis
control set
> him apart from some of the weight shift death traps of the early
days.
>
> Hello Kolbers,
>
> I don't get some attachments so I don't know if this has been included
in the thread.
> Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the ultralight movement began
in the '80s when
> they began hanging engines on hang gliders, hence the wight shift
models. However,
> as you can see in the attached photo, Homer was building real three
axis "ultralights"
> about 30 years before they existed.
>
> This photo is from '56 which puts Homer in his early 20s. The
aircraft was powered
> by 4 chainsaw engines. This is early history of the fine aircraft we
are fortunate
> enough to fly.
>
> Best,
>
> Dave Kulp
> Bethlehem, PA
> FireFly 11DMK
>
>
>
> --
> Zulu Delta
> Mk IIIC
> Thanks, Homer GBYM
>
> It isn't necessary to have relatives in Kansas City in order to be
unhappy.
> - Groucho Marx
>
>
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: History of Kolb aircraft |
| From: | Richard Girard <aslsa.rng(at)gmail.com> |
Oh, man, way back when. The Easy Riser kit was $900 plus about $50 shipping.
I found a couple of new MAC 101 engines for $135 each and John Moody's plans
were $15. A prop was $50 and I built everything else. No landing gear, foot
launched, so I made a couple of skids to keep my butt out of the prop if I
should happen to fall on take off or landing. Climb rate was 150 fpm. Scared
the peewadden out of me every time I flew it.
Sold the Easy Riser, bought the latest hang glider after seeing the Phoenix
line at the Nationals in Oklahoma in '77. $950 from a friend who was a
dealer. Three of us went in to get the dealer discount on Soarmaster
powerpacks. $650 as I recall. The West Bend engine had 8 hp. Climb rate was
75 fpm on a good day, maybe. The first time I flew it I barely cleared the
power lines and tree line a half mile from my starting point and then I was
over a subdivision. Boy did those people look shocked to see me. As I got
higher it was like watching ants coming out of a hive. By the time I came
back to land there were a couple of hundred people to watch. By the third
flight the local news arrived. Nobody had ever seen some idiot run across
the ground and then take off before. They were all sure I was nuts. Probably
was. Probably still am.
Rick
On Tue, Aug 2, 2011 at 12:43 PM, robert bean wrote:
> Several years ago I had stopped in at a neighbor's place who has a back
> yard strip and watched a pterodactal fly.
> Being a guy with a license and a real airplane, I was content with my lot
> in life but, just the same, quite curious about
> these rigs of cable and slipcover wings. -the better ones were actually
> sort of inviting.
>
> The driver was a hippie looking guy, ponytail and berkenstocks. Seemed a
> little standoffish or aloof. About what, I don't know.
> He spent a long time on his preflight which, considering the plane, was
> certainly in order. Then he climbed aboard,
> started and took off. -alarming angle of climb, leveling off a couple
> hundred feet above and did a turn tight enough that the inboard wingtip
> could have been on a pivot post.
>
> Well maybe it WAS capable of the climb angle, but I knew for certain that
> if that thing quit he was in a pickle.
> Sure enough, I talked to the neighbor a few years after that event and was
> informed that he had been seriously broken up in an accident.
>
> Maybe one of you guyz who did fly these early kits can tell me why you
> would have spent as much money on one as a real
> airplane. ???? I might have bought one but the economics looked like a bad
> deal.
> BB
> MkIII, suzuki
> -close enough to a real airplane for me
>
> On 2, Aug 2011, at 12:50 PM, Richard Girard wrote:
>
> Actually it was the mid 70's. I had a Mac 101 powered Easy Riser in '76 and
> a Soarmaster power pack on a Phoenix 8 Sr. in '78.
>
> Rick Girard
>
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