RV10-Archive.digest.vol-bt
November 13, 2006 - November 28, 2006
male species. She said that my RV-10 list had to be less depressing than
hers as she and I are very happily married.
She did bring up a good point. Has there ever been a string about the
affects of such a project on the family?
In the year+ of lurking I had to admit that I had not.
Building a plane is a huge family commitment and takes hundreds/thousands of
hours from family.
I am 35 married and our latest child came a month ago which makes 2 under 2
years old. I'm leaning toward building but am currently in the midst of a
career change that will better allow me funding to build where my position
I'm exiting would have taken some time. I still have the build/buy question
in my head though. We may expand to 3 kids which will make the -10
difficult and my flop to the Murphy line to get 4+2 seating from their
recently released Yukon which shares the Moose fuselage (thus seating) with
different powerplant and increased wing sq/ft. Does anyone have a larger
family than the -10 can hold. (Deems here's where your input would equal
E.F. Hutton's back in the day)
We would be interested in responses on affects on family and maybe what was
done to incorporate the building process into family life/involvement.
I would also like anyone who is on the other side of the build/buy decision
to add thier $.02.
As an exiting business owner working ~65 hrs/wk it seems difficult to fit in
a kit. But my career change hopefully will afford me more time as it will
money.
Just fishing here; if anyone has or knows of someone who has expirience with
international employment and what one should be wary of when approaching
such an opportunty I would be very interested in some offline dialog.
Thank you,
Matt Geans
Builder Wanna-be
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "John W. Cox" <johnwcox(at)pacificnw.com> |
There have been a lower than statistical rate of divorces within the
RV-10 Group. James McClow excluded. Only three builders have died and
not from the kit process. One only has to look at pictures of OSH or the
VANS picnic and see families like the Olsons' to know that inclusion of
the family is a smart and efficient development technique for acceptance
of the final product. Read Dan Checkoway's post on the value of wives
and their inclusion. http://www.rvproject.com/wife.html
Ever seen how often Tim's daughters are smiling or asleep.
http://www.myrv10.com/N104CD/flights/20060226/index.html
Being 57, grey haired, kids are now adults, I do not qualify for
consideration. The journey should be shared. Developing Airshows in
the 80's and 90's created a phenomena called AIDS (Airshow Induced
Divorce Syndrome). Don't go there.
Enjoy your 30s and 40s, get the family involved. Talk to Tim.
John Cox
#600
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of
mgeans(at)provide.net
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 10:02 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Kits and Family
All,
I don't know if this subject has come up but here goes.
My wife (if we're allowed to bring them up in the list) was
interestingly peering over my shoulder when her rubber
stamping chat room threads turned to ugly divorces, single
moms, the coming holidays and the wickedness of the male
species. She said that my RV-10 list had to be less
depressing than hers as she and I are very happily married.
She did bring up a good point. Has there ever been a
string about the affects of such a project on the family?
In the year+ of lurking I had to admit that I had not.
Building a plane is a huge family commitment and takes
hundreds/thousands of hours from family.
I am 35 married and our latest child came a month ago which
makes 2 under 2 years old. I'm leaning toward building but
am currently in the midst of a career change that will
better allow me funding to build where my position I'm
exiting would have taken some time. I still have the
build/buy question in my head though. We may expand to 3
kids which will make the -10 difficult and my flop to the
Murphy line to get 4+2 seating from their recently released
Yukon which shares the Moose fuselage (thus seating) with
different powerplant and increased wing sq/ft. Does anyone
have a larger family than the -10 can hold. (Deems here's
where your input would equal E.F. Hutton's back in the day)
We would be interested in responses on affects on family
and maybe what was done to incorporate the building process
into family life/involvement.
I would also like anyone who is on the other side of the
build/buy decision to add thier $.02.
As an exiting business owner working ~65 hrs/wk it seems
difficult to fit in a kit. But my career change hopefully
will afford me more time as it will money.
Just fishing here; if anyone has or knows of someone who
has expirience with international employment and what one
should be wary of when approaching such an opportunty I
would be very interested in some offline dialog.
Thank you,
Matt Geans
Builder Wanna-be
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Lloyd, Daniel R." <LloydDR(at)wernerco.com> |
I have often felt this is a subject that does not get the appropriate
amount of attention. My wife would be happy to discuss this with yours
on how we approached this. We have two kids and made the decision
several years ago to build, first a 7 then switched to a 10, once she
realized how much fun flying was. It is definitively a family
commitment, as it takes time away from them, and you have to sell the
benefits of it. My kids have both been actively involved, and they love
it. We tell them they have to build sweat equity, i.e. work for flight
time, it really gets them excited, in addition for each structure they
work on they get to sign it before we close it up, for example they both
got to sign the inside of the HS skins. If everything goes alright
nobody will ever see it, but if an eventual owner opens it up, he/she
will get to see all 4 of my families signatures and the date and age
they worked on it. There is always an argument about who gets to work
with Dad for the magic signing. They both love to cleco, drill and
measure. We have finally gotten to the stage we can sit and make noises,
and we all take turns as PIC. Next month we should be able to apply
power to the panel and that is when it will really start to be fun.
The project has been a point of pride for all of us, everyone in the
neighborhood stops by to see progress, because after all we are the
crazy people building a plane in our garage and they think it will never
fly! We tell them soon. All of the friends of the kids come by and take
a look, they all want to fly in it once it is done. It is surprising the
difference between kids and adults, kids want to, and the adults are
leary...oh well. The boyscouts have been by, and are even talking about
earning their aviation badge, it has gotten them all excited about
flying.
My wife is my riveting partner and the person who supports me most in
the build. It takes a real commitment on both parts, as she has to
shoulder the kids responsibility when I am working in the garage. Her
main statement though is that with the plane she knows exactly where I
am at during the evenings, and she can always take two steps and visit.
She has learned to flush rivet better than I can, giving a half tap when
needed to set the rivet properly. She also gave up her manicure because
it made it difficult to pick up the AN426AD3-3.5 rivets. She said the
trade is that she gets to test the aft CG limit when we go visit Tim
(read Mall of America!).
With that being said it is a big commitment, but one that is easily
integrated into the family. If you do not take the time to sell it and
get the family excited about it, it will make it difficult at best, and
a painful divorce at worst. I think all it takes to finish is
perseverance and the support of your family because they want to see you
succeed.
No matter how full you feel your schedule is, you can shift things and
make it work, all it takes (in my case) is a can do attitude and the
support of a great spouse!
Just my musing's on a boring Monday
Dan
40269
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of
mgeans(at)provide.net
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 1:02 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Kits and Family
All,
I don't know if this subject has come up but here goes.
My wife (if we're allowed to bring them up in the list) was
interestingly peering over my shoulder when her rubber
stamping chat room threads turned to ugly divorces, single
moms, the coming holidays and the wickedness of the male
species. She said that my RV-10 list had to be less
depressing than hers as she and I are very happily married.
She did bring up a good point. Has there ever been a
string about the affects of such a project on the family?
In the year+ of lurking I had to admit that I had not.
Building a plane is a huge family commitment and takes
hundreds/thousands of hours from family.
I am 35 married and our latest child came a month ago which
makes 2 under 2 years old. I'm leaning toward building but
am currently in the midst of a career change that will
better allow me funding to build where my position I'm
exiting would have taken some time. I still have the
build/buy question in my head though. We may expand to 3
kids which will make the -10 difficult and my flop to the
Murphy line to get 4+2 seating from their recently released
Yukon which shares the Moose fuselage (thus seating) with
different powerplant and increased wing sq/ft. Does anyone
have a larger family than the -10 can hold. (Deems here's
where your input would equal E.F. Hutton's back in the day)
We would be interested in responses on affects on family
and maybe what was done to incorporate the building process
into family life/involvement.
I would also like anyone who is on the other side of the
build/buy decision to add thier $.02.
As an exiting business owner working ~65 hrs/wk it seems
difficult to fit in a kit. But my career change hopefully
will afford me more time as it will money.
Just fishing here; if anyone has or knows of someone who
has expirience with international employment and what one
should be wary of when approaching such an opportunty I
would be very interested in some offline dialog.
Thank you,
Matt Geans
Builder Wanna-be
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | <mgeans(at)provide.net> |
| Subject: | Lyc Knockoff 92 octane compatable |
Has anyone heard of or had exposure to an experimental
assembled and tested engine with the correct combustion
ration (I think is 8 or 8.5:1) that will allow the use of
92 octane auto fuel?
I met an seasoned hanger flyer once who suggested that I
find the engine that I want to use and then fit an airframe
to it that will suit my needs to alleviate a lot of
headache.
I think Kitplanes has touched on this in the past possibly
with Mftrs as Superior or Titan (engines not kits as in
Tornado or T-51). Don't quote me on the Mftr's as I don't
recall who they were only that they would take the auto
fuel. This could be a promising addition to an airframe
which could pass the time line of avgas extinction. It
would also be cost effective.
This might spark (no pun intended) the auto vs avgas "war"
as I've seen such discussions referred to before.
Matt Geans
Builder Wanna-be
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Kelly McMullen" <apilot2(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Lyc Knockoff 92 octane compatable |
I can't help you on the experimental side, but I do know of a pilot
that used to use 91 octane unleaded in his 180hp Lyc O-36A1D (8.5:1
compression) powered Mooney. He sold the aircraft, so I only know what
occured while he had it and was using mogas. Two issues. 1. He was
able to get mogas with MTBE that supposedly was safe for STC'd mogas
use. Obviously that is nearly unobtainable now, and ethanol use is
very widespread, meaning your fuel system better be designed to
withstand ethanol. Even here in PHX he could only get the mogas with
MTBE in the summer, as the fuel was switched to ethanol in the winter.
2. Bigger problem was that mogas eventually disolved the variety of
PRC that Mooney used in 1967 when the plane was built, into a goo, and
the tanks eventually leaked so bad he had to choose between a complete
strip and reseal or go with STC'd bladders. He chose the
bladders..which added 30lbs to his empty wt.
AFAIK he never had any issues with vapor lock nor detonation. However,
that was with standard mags and mag timing. Who knows what would
happen with electronic ignition.
On 11/13/06, mgeans(at)provide.net wrote:
>
> Has anyone heard of or had exposure to an experimental
> assembled and tested engine with the correct combustion
> ration (I think is 8 or 8.5:1) that will allow the use of
> 92 octane auto fuel?
>
> I met an seasoned hanger flyer once who suggested that I
> find the engine that I want to use and then fit an airframe
> to it that will suit my needs to alleviate a lot of
> headache.
>
> I think Kitplanes has touched on this in the past possibly
> with Mftrs as Superior or Titan (engines not kits as in
> Tornado or T-51). Don't quote me on the Mftr's as I don't
> recall who they were only that they would take the auto
> fuel. This could be a promising addition to an airframe
> which could pass the time line of avgas extinction. It
> would also be cost effective.
>
> This might spark (no pun intended) the auto vs avgas "war"
> as I've seen such discussions referred to before.
>
> Matt Geans
> Builder Wanna-be
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Deems Davis <deemsdavis(at)cox.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Kits and Family - My story |
Matt, since you asked, Here's my input:
1st a couple of reference setting items.
A. My family is one of my highest priorities, and ranks above my love of
aviation.
B. I'm actively involved in my church to which I willingly dedicate
additional time and this also ranks above my aviation addiction.
C. My personality/nature is somewhat compulsive, I am more than just a
little passionate about the things I undertake. I can't stand to
see/leave something unfinished.
D. I was, at that time, equally obsessive in my career pursuits
With that said, after two kitbuild starts, (without a finish! ) I found
that when I was totally honest with myself it would be impossible to
balance my family/church/work/airplane building activities. After too
may 2-3am sessions in the garage/shop I came to the realization that my
family was suffering from my obsession, and that my compulsive nature
would NEVER allow me to throttle-back and take the 10+ years it would
have taken to completed the project in harmony with the other
'heavy-lifters'. So the Lancair got sold to someone locally, who
finished it, got it on the front page of Kitplanes, and took me for a
ride shortly after his Stage 1 completed. I accepted that 'building'
would be something that would have to wait until retirement.
Now the good news: I didn't give up aviation, instead, I first bought
into a partnership (valuable learning experience), then ultimately
bought a 5 seat V35 Bonanza (worked great while the youngest was still
an infant) eventually traded up to a Baron w/6 seats, which worked well
with the family at all sizes, as the oldest began to grow bigger and
wasn't always interested in going on the 'trips' the 6 seats saw us
through raising 5 children. We used the planes strictly for personal
pleasure. 80% of the hours were spent on family vacations, or visiting
family. My children know their aunts, uncles, cousins and grandparents
like their best friends. Judy would plan the vacations. With 2 weekends
and the week in between, it's amazing how much we packed into those
trips. And Oh, yeah, I squeezed 4-5 trips to OSH in between and took Dad
and my son. I've never regretted those decisions.
Now, I am retired, the work obsession, provided some modest resources
to once again launch on my dream of building and flying my own aircraft,
My children are mostly raised and are beginning to identify and shape
the directions and courses their own lives will take them. I'm still
obsessive about leaving things unfinished, building this plane is the
single biggest personal project I've undertaken in my life. I get close
to burn-out from time to time, but the memories of the fun we have had
as a family and the dreams of using the plane for Judy and I to visit
parents, children, and (someday) grandchildren, as well as the extended
family that's I'm acquiring through this process carry me on.
My story is just that, - my story - there are an infinite number of
ways to tackle it, it's just what worked for me. I am in awe of the
younger working families that successfully accomplish this dream earlier
in their lives. I've always been a bit of a 'late-bloomer'
Deems Davis # 406
Finishing - ( A Misnomer ! )
http://deemsrv10.com/
mgeans(at)provide.net wrote:
>
>All,
>
>I don't know if this subject has come up but here goes.
>
>My wife (if we're allowed to bring them up in the list) was
>interestingly peering over my shoulder when her rubber
>stamping chat room threads turned to ugly divorces, single
>moms, the coming holidays and the wickedness of the male
>species. She said that my RV-10 list had to be less
>depressing than hers as she and I are very happily married.
>
>
>She did bring up a good point. Has there ever been a
>string about the affects of such a project on the family?
>In the year+ of lurking I had to admit that I had not.
>Building a plane is a huge family commitment and takes
>hundreds/thousands of hours from family.
>
>I am 35 married and our latest child came a month ago which
>makes 2 under 2 years old. I'm leaning toward building but
>am currently in the midst of a career change that will
>better allow me funding to build where my position I'm
>exiting would have taken some time. I still have the
>build/buy question in my head though. We may expand to 3
>kids which will make the -10 difficult and my flop to the
>Murphy line to get 4+2 seating from their recently released
>Yukon which shares the Moose fuselage (thus seating) with
>different powerplant and increased wing sq/ft. Does anyone
>have a larger family than the -10 can hold. (Deems here's
>where your input would equal E.F. Hutton's back in the day)
>
>We would be interested in responses on affects on family
>and maybe what was done to incorporate the building process
>into family life/involvement.
>I would also like anyone who is on the other side of the
>build/buy decision to add thier $.02.
>
>As an exiting business owner working ~65 hrs/wk it seems
>difficult to fit in a kit. But my career change hopefully
>will afford me more time as it will money.
>
>Just fishing here; if anyone has or knows of someone who
>has expirience with international employment and what one
>should be wary of when approaching such an opportunty I
>would be very interested in some offline dialog.
>
>Thank you,
>
>Matt Geans
>Builder Wanna-be
>
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | It is real...Registration that is |
| From: | "Lloyd, Daniel R." <LloydDR(at)wernerco.com> |
N289DT is now officially registered, just received the "pink slip" from
the FAA. Now, I have something to put in that cool little clear pocket
Abby sews on the front panel!!
The excitement is building, now if I can just build the plane.....
Dan
N289DT (40269) RV10E
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Jae Chang" <jc-matronics_rv10(at)jline.com> |
| Subject: | Fuel float positioning and proseal |
http://www.jline.com/log/aviation/build/wingkit/photos/IMG_4432.html
Hi all, I was just admiring the result of all of my hard work for the past month
or more, while working on the fuel tanks, and noticed something.
The float sender is sitting on the bottom of the tank skin. It is actually the
steel wire touching the inside tank skin. I imagine a worst-case scenario may be
the wings sitting empty with water in the bottom of the tank, with the steel
wire on the fuel sender touching the bottom tank skin. Also, during normal
operation, the float wire may bang up and down hitting the fuel tank skins.
To mitigate any damage caused by the above, has anyone put a thin layer of
proseal on their tank skins, where the float wire hits the skin? It seems like
a
good idea to do. I haven't seen any mention of doing this in any archives, so I
am a little wary that I may be missing something? Am I?
Thanks,
Jae
#40533 - Light-headed from inhaling all the black death and MEK
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Quadrant vs. Vernier Cables |
| From: | "John W. Cox" <johnwcox(at)pacificnw.com> |
I wanted to thank everyone for the spirited discussion and fresh
perspectives on my thread I started on Quadrant vs. Vernier.
It all helps as we watch homes floating away here in the soggy Pacific
NW - home of VANS.
John Cox
#40600
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Jeff Carpenter <jeff(at)westcottpress.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Fuel float positioning and proseal |
Hi Jae,
The word I got from Vans is that you want to bend the wire so that
the plastic arm bottoms out with the float resting about 1/8" above
the base of the tank. That will keep the float from chattering
against the tank skin when empty.
I was ultimately uncomfortable with the float clearances, and have
left the baffles off the tanks in anticipation of the capacitance
senders the Vans is working on for the 10.
Last I checked, they didn't have a completion date scheduled, but
they were working on it. With my flaps half done, my ailerons yet to
be touched and my fuselage sitting in the crate, I figure I've got
plenty of time before I'll really need to close up those tanks.
Jeff Carpenter
40304
On Nov 13, 2006, at 12:06 PM, Jae Chang wrote:
> matronics_rv10(at)jline.com>
>
> http://www.jline.com/log/aviation/build/wingkit/photos/IMG_4432.html
>
> Hi all, I was just admiring the result of all of my hard work for
> the past month
> or more, while working on the fuel tanks, and noticed something.
>
> The float sender is sitting on the bottom of the tank skin. It is
> actually the
> steel wire touching the inside tank skin. I imagine a worst-case
> scenario may be
> the wings sitting empty with water in the bottom of the tank, with
> the steel
> wire on the fuel sender touching the bottom tank skin. Also, during
> normal
> operation, the float wire may bang up and down hitting the fuel
> tank skins.
>
> To mitigate any damage caused by the above, has anyone put a thin
> layer of
> proseal on their tank skins, where the float wire hits the skin? It
> seems like a
> good idea to do. I haven't seen any mention of doing this in any
> archives, so I
> am a little wary that I may be missing something? Am I?
>
> Thanks,
> Jae
> #40533 - Light-headed from inhaling all the black death and MEK
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "John Gonzalez" <indigoonlatigo(at)msn.com> |
| Subject: | Eggenfellner's dual battery requirements. |
I looked in the archives and found mention of this but did not see any
photos.
Can anyone direct me to the location to find pictures of this setup. D.
Lloyd, if I recal correctly, have you worked on this yet?
Any one else going planning on this route.
Thanks,
John G. 409
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "W. Curtis" <wcurtis(at)core.com> |
| Subject: | RE: Antenna Location |
With respect to your rf experience, there is no problem with wingtip for VHF navigation
antennas. You have explained below why only navigation antennas are
primarily placed in the wingtip. Comm antennas do not work well in the wingtip.
Notice that all VHF navigational antenna are mounted horizontally and are
polarized as such. Communication antennas on the other hand are mounted vertically
and polarized as such. Since the wingtips are set up very well for horizontal
installation, they work quite well for navigational antennas. I think the
question was in regard to navigational antennas only. Search the archives,
I think this has been previously discussed ad nauseam.
>The problem with wing tip antennas, or antennas not located on the
>fuselage or vertical stab leading edge or tip, would seem to be twofold.
>One, re the wing tip location, such would likely cause a null in
>reception (and transmission) primarily oriented in the direction of the
>wing. Also, if the aircraft antenna is of one orientation, e.g.
>horizontal, and the target station is vertical oriented (polarized, to
>be precise), typically a 20db path loss occurs. Every 3db loss equates
>to roughly a 50% drop in signal strength.
William Curtis
http://wcurtis.nerv10.com/
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "jdalton77" <jdalton77(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Kits and Family |
Dan Checkoway has a nice page on his site about fitting in the wife, family,
and work. It's a fun read.
Jeff
----- Original Message -----
From: <mgeans(at)provide.net>
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 1:02 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Kits and Family
>
> All,
>
> I don't know if this subject has come up but here goes.
>
> My wife (if we're allowed to bring them up in the list) was
> interestingly peering over my shoulder when her rubber
> stamping chat room threads turned to ugly divorces, single
> moms, the coming holidays and the wickedness of the male
> species. She said that my RV-10 list had to be less
> depressing than hers as she and I are very happily married.
>
>
> She did bring up a good point. Has there ever been a
> string about the affects of such a project on the family?
> In the year+ of lurking I had to admit that I had not.
> Building a plane is a huge family commitment and takes
> hundreds/thousands of hours from family.
>
> I am 35 married and our latest child came a month ago which
> makes 2 under 2 years old. I'm leaning toward building but
> am currently in the midst of a career change that will
> better allow me funding to build where my position I'm
> exiting would have taken some time. I still have the
> build/buy question in my head though. We may expand to 3
> kids which will make the -10 difficult and my flop to the
> Murphy line to get 4+2 seating from their recently released
> Yukon which shares the Moose fuselage (thus seating) with
> different powerplant and increased wing sq/ft. Does anyone
> have a larger family than the -10 can hold. (Deems here's
> where your input would equal E.F. Hutton's back in the day)
>
> We would be interested in responses on affects on family
> and maybe what was done to incorporate the building process
> into family life/involvement.
> I would also like anyone who is on the other side of the
> build/buy decision to add thier $.02.
>
> As an exiting business owner working ~65 hrs/wk it seems
> difficult to fit in a kit. But my career change hopefully
> will afford me more time as it will money.
>
> Just fishing here; if anyone has or knows of someone who
> has expirience with international employment and what one
> should be wary of when approaching such an opportunty I
> would be very interested in some offline dialog.
>
> Thank you,
>
> Matt Geans
> Builder Wanna-be
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Kits and Family |
| From: | "zackrv8" <zackrv8(at)verizon.net> |
But,
if you're going to put 3 kids in the equation, and you seek
the lifestyle you read about on my site, then you're looking
at the wrong plane here, so you may want to look further
at other planes.
maybe not Tim............See my letter to Ken Kruger below and his response.
Zack
> Ok guys.....
>
> I'm having a ball building this RV10 especially after building an RV8 and
> flying it for over 6 years and 1000 hours. I can't wait to finish the 10
> but I am already thinking about a bigger plane!
>
> After cruising through several aviation magazines, I thought it would be
> useful to have a 6 place plane that could transform into a heavy hauler
> /sleeping quarters by removing the rear seats if needed.
>
> Any interest in this idea? Maybe you could stretch the 10 a little? I
> certainly would buy one if you produced it!
>
> Joe "Zack" Czachorowski
> RV8
> RV10 (half way there)
_________________
RV8 #80125
RV10 # 40512
Hi Joe,
You are not the first to make this suggestion...are you surprised? As
the cost, time, and hassel factor of flying airlines goes up and up while
the airlines' customer service goes down and down, there may be an
emerging market for a six seat RV-10.
Thanks for your thoughts! So long for now,
Ken Krueger, Engineer
Van's Aircraft
--------
RV8 #80125
RV10 # 40512
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=74332#74332
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Kits and Family |
| From: | "bcondrey" <bob.condrey(at)baesystems.com> |
You've had a lot of good responses and I agree with all of them. I will add that
I changed positions with my current employer not too long after I started on
my tailkit. My new position has dramatically more travel, and with family changes
(kids transitioning to adults, grandchild, etc), I find that I don't have
anywhere close to the amount of time that I used to on the kit.
As others have mentioned, family and employment must come first. This is a major
time commitment (1600-2200 hours) so you can do the math for yourself. Problem
comes when you don't align your expectations with reality.
Assuming the RV-10 is the best fit for your mission profile, just get a shovel
and start moving the mountain.
Bob #40105
90% done...
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=74354#74354
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| From: | "bob.kaufmann" <bob.kaufmann(at)cox.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Kits and Family |
Bob
So you are at the hated 90/90 position. So many of us are. When you coming
to Vegas next, haven't seen you since Huntsville.
Bob K
90/90
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Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 3:14 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Kits and Family
You've had a lot of good responses and I agree with all of them. I will add
that I changed positions with my current employer not too long after I
started on my tailkit. My new position has dramatically more travel, and
with family changes (kids transitioning to adults, grandchild, etc), I find
that I don't have anywhere close to the amount of time that I used to on the
kit.
As others have mentioned, family and employment must come first. This is a
major time commitment (1600-2200 hours) so you can do the math for yourself.
Problem comes when you don't align your expectations with reality.
Assuming the RV-10 is the best fit for your mission profile, just get a
shovel and start moving the mountain.
Bob #40105
90% done...
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=74354#74354
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| From: | "ddddsp1(at)juno.com" <ddddsp1(at)juno.com> |
| Subject: | RV10's near Las Vegas |
I am planning to be in Las Vegas Nov.30 thru Dec. 3rd. Would love to se
e, assist, or fly any RV in the area (prefer Rv10) . If any of you VEGA
S RV guys will be available at that time I would love to hook up.....I w
ill even buy Dinner at the top of the SPHERE if you want. Contact me on
line at DDDDSP(at)juno.com or 402-560-9755.
Dean 40449
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I am planning to be in Las Vegas Nov.30 thru Dec. 3rd. Wo
uld love to see, assist, or fly any RV in the area (prefer Rv10) .
If any of you VEGAS RV guys will be available at that time I would love
to hook up.....I will even buy Dinner at the top of the SPHERE if you w
ant. Contact me online at DDDDS
P(at)juno.com or 402-560-9755.
Dean 40449
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