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| From: | Tim Olson <Tim(at)MyRV10.com> |
| Subject: | Re: YIO-540 airflow performance injectors |
I don't think that's being completely straight forward. They may be a good s
mall company and great folks, but there is nothing about the system that mak
es it better at running LOP than the other...you can use the same injector i
nserts to tune either system and running LOP is routinely done by many with p
recision systems too. The product should be evaluated on its true merits or
differences....not made up ones.
Tim
On Sep 14, 2011, at 11:14 PM, John Cox wrote:
> And the "Performance" give substantially more control at adjusting LOP ope
rations. There are several other benefits not stated. PLUS Don and his wif
e are small business owners striving hard to make it right. The Precision g
uys are big business and many Certified Assessories.
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> John - 40600
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> On Sep 14, 2011 6:23 PM, "Bob Turner" wrote:
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> > Mystery solved. After a very nice email from Don at AirFlow Performance,
it seems I got my "P's" mixed up. I have a Precision, not Performance, fuel
injection system. And they use different nomenclature: The "one banded" res
trictors from Precision are .028" (while one band from Performance means .02
2").
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| Subject: | Should I pop on this IO540? |
| From: | "EdKranz" <ed.kranz(at)gmail.com> |
I'm not planning on ordering my tail kit until after the holiday season is over,
and I didn't think I'd need to worry about a motor for a few more years... but...
I just got an email from a A&P friend of mine who knows I'm going to be building.
He says that he found an IO540 D4A5 for me. It's currently on another plane
that they are going to be downsizing to a 200HP motor.
It has 890 hours on it, "Not damaged, no prop strikes" and he's going to sell it
with all the accessories. It has Bendix mags.
I had always figured I'd go the new route with either a Barrett or Aerosports engine,
but if the price is right, and I can be CONFIDENT in the motor, I might
consider this route.
I don't have a firm price that he is asking yet, but he said "about 1/3 the new
cost" that he looked up on the Vans website... so I'm guessing around $15,000.
What are your opinions on this? What is the cost of a rebuild on a D4A5? Would
I be able save any money and still have a reliable motor?
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=352368#352368
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| Subject: | Re: Should I pop on this IO540? |
| From: | William Greenley <wgreenley(at)gmail.com> |
I am looking for something like, my thought is that I will do the test
flying and other initial work with the used engine and at some point
have it overhauled. But an engine like this could well be good for
1000 hours. If it is currently flying on the other plane you can have
a careful checkout done which should give some confidence on what you
are getting, but obviously you can never be sure.
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 11:14 AM, EdKranz wrote:
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> I'm not planning on ordering my tail kit until after the holiday season is over,
and I didn't think I'd need to worry about a motor for a few more years...
but...
>
> I just got an email from a A&P friend of mine who knows I'm going to be building.
He says that he found an IO540 D4A5 for me. It's currently on another plane
that they are going to be downsizing to a 200HP motor.
>
> It has 890 hours on it, "Not damaged, no prop strikes" and he's going to sell
it with all the accessories. It has Bendix mags.
>
> I had always figured I'd go the new route with either a Barrett or Aerosports
engine, but if the price is right, and I can be CONFIDENT in the motor, I might
consider this route.
>
> I don't have a firm price that he is asking yet, but he said "about 1/3 the new
cost" that he looked up on the Vans website... so I'm guessing around $15,000.
>
> What are your opinions on this? What is the cost of a rebuild on a D4A5? Would
I be able save any money and still have a reliable motor?
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=352368#352368
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| From: | "Seano" <sean(at)braunandco.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Should I pop on this IO540? |
One advantage is a known good running engine during phase I and breakin.
Since it is brokin in, you won't have to worry about running on the ground
too much or glazing the cylinders before first flight. Also, isn't most of
the engine failures during the first few hours on an engine?
If the price is good and you trust it is a good running engine, I say go for
it.
my 2
----- Original Message -----
From: "EdKranz" <ed.kranz(at)gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 9:14 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Should I pop on this IO540?
>
> I'm not planning on ordering my tail kit until after the holiday season is
> over, and I didn't think I'd need to worry about a motor for a few more
> years... but...
>
> I just got an email from a A&P friend of mine who knows I'm going to be
> building. He says that he found an IO540 D4A5 for me. It's currently on
> another plane that they are going to be downsizing to a 200HP motor.
>
> It has 890 hours on it, "Not damaged, no prop strikes" and he's going to
> sell it with all the accessories. It has Bendix mags.
>
> I had always figured I'd go the new route with either a Barrett or
> Aerosports engine, but if the price is right, and I can be CONFIDENT in
> the motor, I might consider this route.
>
> I don't have a firm price that he is asking yet, but he said "about 1/3
> the new cost" that he looked up on the Vans website... so I'm guessing
> around $15,000.
>
> What are your opinions on this? What is the cost of a rebuild on a D4A5?
> Would I be able save any money and still have a reliable motor?
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=352368#352368
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| Subject: | Re: Should I pop on this IO540? |
| From: | Rick <ricksked(at)cox.net> |
It's on VAF for 17.9k
Rick
Sent from my iPhone
On Sep 15, 2011, at 8:14 AM, "EdKranz" wrote:
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> I'm not planning on ordering my tail kit until after the holiday season is over,
and I didn't think I'd need to worry about a motor for a few more years...
but...
>
> I just got an email from a A&P friend of mine who knows I'm going to be building.
He says that he found an IO540 D4A5 for me. It's currently on another plane
that they are going to be downsizing to a 200HP motor.
>
> It has 890 hours on it, "Not damaged, no prop strikes" and he's going to sell
it with all the accessories. It has Bendix mags.
>
> I had always figured I'd go the new route with either a Barrett or Aerosports
engine, but if the price is right, and I can be CONFIDENT in the motor, I might
consider this route.
>
> I don't have a firm price that he is asking yet, but he said "about 1/3 the new
cost" that he looked up on the Vans website... so I'm guessing around $15,000.
>
> What are your opinions on this? What is the cost of a rebuild on a D4A5? Would
I be able save any money and still have a reliable motor?
>
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> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=352368#352368
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| Subject: | Re: Should I pop on this IO540? |
| From: | Ed Kranz <ed.kranz(at)gmail.com> |
Thanks for the heads up. He didn't tell me he was going to do that.
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 10:47 AM, Rick wrote:
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> It's on VAF for 17.9k
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> Rick
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Sep 15, 2011, at 8:14 AM, "EdKranz" wrote:
>
> >
> > I'm not planning on ordering my tail kit until after the holiday season
> is over, and I didn't think I'd need to worry about a motor for a few more
> years... but...
> >
> > I just got an email from a A&P friend of mine who knows I'm going to be
> building. He says that he found an IO540 D4A5 for me. It's currently on
> another plane that they are going to be downsizing to a 200HP motor.
> >
> > It has 890 hours on it, "Not damaged, no prop strikes" and he's going to
> sell it with all the accessories. It has Bendix mags.
> >
> > I had always figured I'd go the new route with either a Barrett or
> Aerosports engine, but if the price is right, and I can be CONFIDENT in the
> motor, I might consider this route.
> >
> > I don't have a firm price that he is asking yet, but he said "about 1/3
> the new cost" that he looked up on the Vans website... so I'm guessing
> around $15,000.
> >
> > What are your opinions on this? What is the cost of a rebuild on a D4A5?
> Would I be able save any money and still have a reliable motor?
> >
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> > Read this topic online here:
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> > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=352368#352368
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| Subject: | Re: Should I pop on this IO540? |
| From: | Sohrab Kermanj <flysrv10(at)gmail.com> |
I bought a zero time engine with new cam and first run crank, new mags and overhauled
accessories (fuel pump, servo) completely new top end from Americas Aircraft
engine for less that twice that. No core was required. My vote is to talk
to AAE.
Rob Kermanj
Sent from my iPhone
On Sep 15, 2011, at 11:47 AM, Rick wrote:
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> It's on VAF for 17.9k
>
> Rick
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 15, 2011, at 8:14 AM, "EdKranz" wrote:
>
>>
>> I'm not planning on ordering my tail kit until after the holiday season is over,
and I didn't think I'd need to worry about a motor for a few more years...
but...
>>
>> I just got an email from a A&P friend of mine who knows I'm going to be building.
He says that he found an IO540 D4A5 for me. It's currently on another plane
that they are going to be downsizing to a 200HP motor.
>>
>> It has 890 hours on it, "Not damaged, no prop strikes" and he's going to sell
it with all the accessories. It has Bendix mags.
>>
>> I had always figured I'd go the new route with either a Barrett or Aerosports
engine, but if the price is right, and I can be CONFIDENT in the motor, I might
consider this route.
>>
>> I don't have a firm price that he is asking yet, but he said "about 1/3 the
new cost" that he looked up on the Vans website... so I'm guessing around $15,000.
>>
>> What are your opinions on this? What is the cost of a rebuild on a D4A5? Would
I be able save any money and still have a reliable motor?
>>
>>
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>>
>> Read this topic online here:
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>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=352368#352368
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| Subject: | Should I pop on this IO540? |
| From: | "Rhonda Bewley" <Rhonda(at)bpaengines.com> |
Ed:
Make sure you know what the engine configuration is and what the rebuild
history on it has been (specifically the size of the main and rod
journals on the crankshaft) I would definitely want to know what the
compression ratio was if I were you. Example, if it is a 10:1
compression engine, you're likely going to be looking at an overhaul
around 1,000 hours. I would also strongly suggest that you verify the
engine and crankshaft number separately to make sure that the crankshaft
is not affected by any of the Lycoming crankshaft ADs. Even though you
are in an experimental application, you don't want to have to buy a new
crankshaft if that one is on any lists.
Just my opinion as I'd love the opportunity to sell you a new one, but
if you can get a good deal, then who could blame you.
Regards,
Rhonda Barrett
Barrett Precision Engines, Inc.
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[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ed Kranz
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 11:06 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Should I pop on this IO540?
Thanks for the heads up. He didn't tell me he was going to do that.
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 10:47 AM, Rick wrote:
It's on VAF for 17.9k
Rick
Sent from my iPhone
On Sep 15, 2011, at 8:14 AM, "EdKranz" wrote:
>
> I'm not planning on ordering my tail kit until after the holiday
season is over, and I didn't think I'd need to worry about a motor for a
few more years... but...
>
> I just got an email from a A&P friend of mine who knows I'm going to
be building. He says that he found an IO540 D4A5 for me. It's currently
on another plane that they are going to be downsizing to a 200HP motor.
>
> It has 890 hours on it, "Not damaged, no prop strikes" and he's going
to sell it with all the accessories. It has Bendix mags.
>
> I had always figured I'd go the new route with either a Barrett or
Aerosports engine, but if the price is right, and I can be CONFIDENT in
the motor, I might consider this route.
>
> I don't have a firm price that he is asking yet, but he said "about
1/3 the new cost" that he looked up on the Vans website... so I'm
guessing around $15,000.
>
> What are your opinions on this? What is the cost of a rebuild on a
D4A5? Would I be able save any money and still have a reliable motor?
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=352368#352368
>
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| Subject: | Re: Should I pop on this IO540? |
| From: | Rick <ricksked(at)cox.net> |
And figure that rebuild through a good shop like BPE could run you upwards o
f 24k. Trust me I've researched it. That's why engine number 2 will come fro
m my good friends at BPE. Allen is not only smart he's cute too.... Or is t
hat Rhonda? ;)
Rick
Sent from my iPhone
On Sep 15, 2011, at 9:26 AM, "Rhonda Bewley" wrote:
> Ed:
>
> Make sure you know what the engine configuration is and what the rebuild h
istory on it has been (specifically the size of the main and rod journals on
the crankshaft) I would definitely want to know what the compression ratio w
as if I were you. Example, if it is a 10:1 compression engine, you=99
re likely going to be looking at an overhaul around 1,000 hours. I would al
so strongly suggest that you verify the engine and crankshaft number separat
ely to make sure that the crankshaft is not affected by any of the Lycoming c
rankshaft ADs. Even though you are in an experimental application, you don
=99t want to have to buy a new crankshaft if that one is on any lists.
>
> Just my opinion as I=99d love the opportunity to sell you a new one,
but if you can get a good deal, then who could blame you.
>
> Regards,
>
> Rhonda Barrett
> Barrett Precision Engines, Inc.
>
> From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server@
matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ed Kranz
> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 11:06 AM
> To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Should I pop on this IO540?
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> Thanks for the heads up. He didn't tell me he was going to do that.
>
> On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 10:47 AM, Rick wrote:
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> It's on VAF for 17.9k
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> Rick
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> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Sep 15, 2011, at 8:14 AM, "EdKranz" wrote:
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> > I'm not planning on ordering my tail kit until after the holiday season i
s over, and I didn't think I'd need to worry about a motor for a few more ye
ars... but...
> >
> > I just got an email from a A&P friend of mine who knows I'm going to be b
uilding. He says that he found an IO540 D4A5 for me. It's currently on anoth
er plane that they are going to be downsizing to a 200HP motor.
> >
> > It has 890 hours on it, "Not damaged, no prop strikes" and he's going to
sell it with all the accessories. It has Bendix mags.
> >
> > I had always figured I'd go the new route with either a Barrett or Aeros
ports engine, but if the price is right, and I can be CONFIDENT in the motor
, I might consider this route.
> >
> > I don't have a firm price that he is asking yet, but he said "about 1/3 t
he new cost" that he looked up on the Vans website... so I'm guessing around
$15,000.
> >
> > What are your opinions on this? What is the cost of a rebuild on a D4A5?
Would I be able save any money and still have a reliable motor?
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| From: | "Pascal" <rv10flyer(at)verizon.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Should I pop on this IO540? |
Same here. I felt that new was overkill, specially since I wanted the old
Narrow deck core. America's was first rate.
Interestingly they had an engine with the same hours off a plane that was
being parted out. America's would not sell the engine to me unless they
first verified all was fine inside. All was close to new, but if it wasn't,
than we would know for sure. When it comes to engines unless you open it up
and see what's inside, you're guessing it's fine.. that was not a risk I was
willing to take. I suppose documents and scopes would work..but I am
"trusting" it's accurate.
If you're A&P is reliable and can scope and do everything for you to assure
it's solid, you may be fine.
People have left engines sitting for years, but they were building already,
you are planning to put off a 10k investment in a tail kit but are willing
to spend 15K on a engine you wont need for a while?
I would start the project first and order the engine later in the build.
Things happen, people "need" to stop building, some even need to sell off
their projects. Engines will come up, the prices may as well but you will
have options.
Best of success!
Pascal
-----Original Message-----
From: Sohrab Kermanj
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 9:15 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Should I pop on this IO540?
I bought a zero time engine with new cam and first run crank, new mags and
overhauled accessories (fuel pump, servo) completely new top end from
Americas Aircraft engine for less that twice that. No core was required. My
vote is to talk to AAE.
Rob Kermanj
Sent from my iPhone
On Sep 15, 2011, at 11:47 AM, Rick wrote:
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> It's on VAF for 17.9k
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> Rick
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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> On Sep 15, 2011, at 8:14 AM, "EdKranz" wrote:
>
>>
>> I'm not planning on ordering my tail kit until after the holiday season
>> is over, and I didn't think I'd need to worry about a motor for a few
>> more years... but...
>>
>> I just got an email from a A&P friend of mine who knows I'm going to be
>> building. He says that he found an IO540 D4A5 for me. It's currently on
>> another plane that they are going to be downsizing to a 200HP motor.
>>
>> It has 890 hours on it, "Not damaged, no prop strikes" and he's going to
>> sell it with all the accessories. It has Bendix mags.
>>
>> I had always figured I'd go the new route with either a Barrett or
>> Aerosports engine, but if the price is right, and I can be CONFIDENT in
>> the motor, I might consider this route.
>>
>> I don't have a firm price that he is asking yet, but he said "about 1/3
>> the new cost" that he looked up on the Vans website... so I'm guessing
>> around $15,000.
>>
>> What are your opinions on this? What is the cost of a rebuild on a D4A5?
>> Would I be able save any money and still have a reliable motor?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=352368#352368
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| From: | Linn Walters <pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Dash board edge trim |
You might try the automotive door edge trim ..... comes in colors too.
Linn
On 9/14/2011 9:42 PM, Chris wrote:
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> I am finalizing the plane for weight and balance and making sure I
> have done everything I want to do. I am wondering what folks have done
> to soften the edge of the dash (the aft edge of the F-1071 FWD fuse
> top skin). I do not want to do anything too fancy but simple and quick
> but nice looking. I noticed the Van's RV-10 has automotive type fuel
> line split down the middle and slipped over the edge, which is ok, I
> guess, but I would like a slight step above that solution.
>
> Thanks
>
> Chris Lucas
>
> #40072
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> N919AR
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| Subject: | Re: Should I pop on this IO540? |
| From: | "rv10flyer" <wayne.gillispie(at)yahoo.com> |
Downsizing...be careful as I have never heard of any pilot wanting less power.
I would not buy it unless I saw some performance numbers for myself, researched,
boroscoped and compression tested it. Also if older than 10 yrs you may have
some age related issues to deal with.
If it is already removed then I would be a little suspicious. I know if I was
going to sell my "Huge IO-540" running engine, it would be planned far enough
in advance to allow potential buyers to fly with me or video it for them.
--------
Wayne Gillispie, A&P 5/93, PPC 10/08
Bldr# 40983SB Baffles then fuel/oil/exhaust.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=352394#352394
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| Subject: | Re: YIO-540 airflow performance injectors |
| From: | "Bob Turner" <bobturner(at)alum.rpi.edu> |
Is that correct? e.g., can the airflow performance restrictors fit in the Precision
nozzles?
According to the Precision web site, they won't sell restrictors only - they want
you to buy restrictors and nozzles as a matched set.
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Bob Turner
RV-10 QB
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=352398#352398
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| Subject: | Re: Should I pop on this IO540? |
| From: | Ed Kranz <ed.kranz(at)gmail.com> |
It's currently on a Starduster. He wants to put on a shorter lighter 4
cylinder engine, and make a few bucks in the process.
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 1:02 PM, rv10flyer wrote:
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> Downsizing...be careful as I have never heard of any pilot wanting less
> power.
>
> I would not buy it unless I saw some performance numbers for myself,
> researched, boroscoped and compression tested it. Also if older than 10 yrs
> you may have some age related issues to deal with.
>
> If it is already removed then I would be a little suspicious. I know if I
> was going to sell my "Huge IO-540" running engine, it would be planned far
> enough in advance to allow potential buyers to fly with me or video it for
> them.
>
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> Wayne Gillispie, A&P 5/93, PPC 10/08
> Bldr# 40983SB Baffles then fuel/oil/exhaust.
>
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> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=352394#352394
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| From: | David <dmaib(at)mac.com> |
| Subject: | Re: YIO-540 airflow performance injectors |
Airflow restrictors fit fine in Precision system. I took my airplane
(with Precision FI) to Airflow a couple of years ago and spent the
afternoon with Kyle balancing my injectors.
David Maib
40559
Flying
On Sep 15, 2011, at 2:46 PM, Bob Turner wrote:
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> Is that correct? e.g., can the airflow performance restrictors fit
> in the Precision nozzles?
> According to the Precision web site, they won't sell restrictors
> only - they want you to buy restrictors and nozzles as a matched set.
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> Bob Turner
> RV-10 QB
>
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> Read this topic online here:
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> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=352398#352398
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| Subject: | Re: YIO-540 airflow performance injectors |
| From: | Tim Olson <Tim(at)MyRV10.com> |
I bought my restrictors from them. They are a great way to go. If they require
a matched set that would be something new. I don't see why it would matter.
Tim
On Sep 15, 2011, at 1:46 PM, "Bob Turner" wrote:
>
> Is that correct? e.g., can the airflow performance restrictors fit in the Precision
nozzles?
> According to the Precision web site, they won't sell restrictors only - they
want you to buy restrictors and nozzles as a matched set.
>
> --------
> Bob Turner
> RV-10 QB
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=352398#352398
>
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>
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| From: | Rick Lark <larkrv10(at)yahoo.ca> |
| Subject: | Re: Dash board edge trim |
Years ago we replaced our glareshield cover when we replaced the windshield
in our Cardinal, with a piece of leather we bought.=C2- After having a f
riend cut and sew it to the proper shape,=C2-we then glued it down.=C2-
All in all a bad idea, as the leather shrunk, and we ended up ripping it a
ll out for a commercially made cover anyway.
=C2-
Rick
#40956
Southampton, Ont
=C2-
--- On Thu, 9/15/11, Rick wrote:
From: Rick <ricksked(at)cox.net>
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Dash board edge trim
Received: Thursday, September 15, 2011, 3:07 AM
Get with Abby from flightline interiors. She has a great glareshield cover
and edge.=C2-
Rick
RV-10 x 2
RV Central Las Vegas=C2-
Sent from my iPhone
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This is what I used.can=99t remember how long.
=C2-
http://www.cleavelandtoolstore.com/prodinfo.asp?number=GSF12
=C2-
Rene'
801-721-6080
=C2-
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I am finalizing the plane for weight and balance and making sure I have don
e everything I want to do. I am wondering what folks have done to soften th
e edge of the dash (the aft edge of the F-1071 FWD fuse top skin). I do not
want to do anything too fancy but simple and quick but nice looking. I not
iced the Van's RV-10 has automotive type fuel line split down the middle an
d slipped over the edge, which is ok, I guess, but I would like a slight st
ep above that solution.
Thanks
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| From: | Kelly McMullen <kellym(at)aviating.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Should I pop on this IO540? |
Another option for someone buying said engine is to have it delivered to
one of the "name" engine shops to put on their test cell, run it to
verify its condition and performance, then pickle it to be ready for
install. That gets you a tested engine that you know is or isn't as
represented that won't need a break-in. Of course age of the overhaul as
well as hours of use are factors, as well as whether it is properly
configured with right mounts, and proper accessory location.
On 9/15/2011 10:12 AM, Pascal wrote:
>
> Same here. I felt that new was overkill, specially since I wanted the
> old Narrow deck core. America's was first rate.
> Interestingly they had an engine with the same hours off a plane that
> was being parted out. America's would not sell the engine to me unless
> they first verified all was fine inside. All was close to new, but if
> it wasn't, than we would know for sure. When it comes to engines
> unless you open it up and see what's inside, you're guessing it's
> fine.. that was not a risk I was willing to take. I suppose documents
> and scopes would work..but I am "trusting" it's accurate.
> If you're A&P is reliable and can scope and do everything for you to
> assure it's solid, you may be fine.
> People have left engines sitting for years, but they were building
> already, you are planning to put off a 10k investment in a tail kit
> but are willing to spend 15K on a engine you wont need for a while?
> I would start the project first and order the engine later in the
> build. Things happen, people "need" to stop building, some even need
> to sell off their projects. Engines will come up, the prices may as
> well but you will have options.
> Best of success!
> Pascal
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Sohrab Kermanj
> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 9:15 AM
> To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Should I pop on this IO540?
>
>
> I bought a zero time engine with new cam and first run crank, new mags
> and overhauled accessories (fuel pump, servo) completely new top end
> from Americas Aircraft engine for less that twice that. No core was
> required. My vote is to talk to AAE.
>
> Rob Kermanj
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 15, 2011, at 11:47 AM, Rick wrote:
>
>>
>> It's on VAF for 17.9k
>>
>> Rick
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Sep 15, 2011, at 8:14 AM, "EdKranz" wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> I'm not planning on ordering my tail kit until after the holiday
>>> season is over, and I didn't think I'd need to worry about a motor
>>> for a few more years... but...
>>>
>>> I just got an email from a A&P friend of mine who knows I'm going to
>>> be building. He says that he found an IO540 D4A5 for me. It's
>>> currently on another plane that they are going to be downsizing to a
>>> 200HP motor.
>>>
>>> It has 890 hours on it, "Not damaged, no prop strikes" and he's
>>> going to sell it with all the accessories. It has Bendix mags.
>>>
>>> I had always figured I'd go the new route with either a Barrett or
>>> Aerosports engine, but if the price is right, and I can be CONFIDENT
>>> in the motor, I might consider this route.
>>>
>>> I don't have a firm price that he is asking yet, but he said "about
>>> 1/3 the new cost" that he looked up on the Vans website... so I'm
>>> guessing around $15,000.
>>>
>>> What are your opinions on this? What is the cost of a rebuild on a
>>> D4A5? Would I be able save any money and still have a reliable motor?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Read this topic online here:
>>>
>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=352368#352368
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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| From: | Robin Marks <robin(at)PaintTheWeb.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Should I pop on this IO540? |
Snip >> I would start the project first and order the engine later in the
build. Things happen, people "need" to stop building, some even need to sell
off their projects. Engines will come up, the prices may as well but you
will have options.
I don't necessarily think that is an excellent price and as such with all
the potential unknowns would have me following Pascal's suggestion and wait.
A friend purchased a similar "sounding" engine for $10k. He is now flying
and the engine was a good deal to get flying but it is making metal and it
can not come close to the power generated by my BPE engine. He comments
every time we take off in my -10.
See how quickly this engine showed up? The same thing will happen closer to
the time you will actually need an engine. I say wait.
Robin
Sent from my iPad2.
On Sep 15, 2011, at 12:23 PM, "Pascal" wrote:
Same here. I felt that new was overkill, specially since I wanted the old
Narrow deck core. America's was first rate.
Interestingly they had an engine with the same hours off a plane that was
being parted out. America's would not sell the engine to me unless they
first verified all was fine inside. All was close to new, but if it wasn't,
than we would know for sure. When it comes to engines unless you open it up
and see what's inside, you're guessing it's fine.. that was not a risk I was
willing to take. I suppose documents and scopes would work..but I am
"trusting" it's accurate.
If you're A&P is reliable and can scope and do everything for you to assure
it's solid, you may be fine.
People have left engines sitting for years, but they were building already,
you are planning to put off a 10k investment in a tail kit but are willing
to spend 15K on a engine you wont need for a while?
I would start the project first and order the engine later in the build.
Things happen, people "need" to stop building, some even need to sell off
their projects. Engines will come up, the prices may as well but you will
have options.
Best of success!
Pascal
-----Original Message----- From: Sohrab Kermanj
Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 9:15 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Should I pop on this IO540?
I bought a zero time engine with new cam and first run crank, new mags and
overhauled accessories (fuel pump, servo) completely new top end from
Americas Aircraft engine for less that twice that. No core was required. My
vote is to talk to AAE.
Rob Kermanj
Sent from my iPhone
On Sep 15, 2011, at 11:47 AM, Rick wrote:
It's on VAF for 17.9k
Rick
Sent from my iPhone
On Sep 15, 2011, at 8:14 AM, "EdKranz" wrote:
I'm not planning on ordering my tail kit until after the holiday season is
over, and I didn't think I'd need to worry about a motor for a few more
years... but...
I just got an email from a A&P friend of mine who knows I'm going to be
building. He says that he found an IO540 D4A5 for me. It's currently on
another plane that they are going to be downsizing to a 200HP motor.
It has 890 hours on it, "Not damaged, no prop strikes" and he's going to
sell it with all the accessories. It has Bendix mags.
I had always figured I'd go the new route with either a Barrett or
Aerosports engine, but if the price is right, and I can be CONFIDENT in the
motor, I might consider this route.
I don't have a firm price that he is asking yet, but he said "about 1/3 the
new cost" that he looked up on the Vans website... so I'm guessing around
$15,000.
What are your opinions on this? What is the cost of a rebuild on a D4A5?
Would I be able save any money and still have a reliable motor?
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=352368#352368
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Should I pop on this IO540? |
| From: | Ed Kranz <ed.kranz(at)gmail.com> |
Thanks for all the input guys!
If I proceed, I'm going to have a friend of mine who's an A&P IA go thru it
top to bottom. And thanks to all the info, I know a few more things I'm
going to be looking for in the logs, and ask to have looked at.
I also feel better that a few of you say to wait. I don't want to go into
any transaction feeling like it's the last chance for a deal.
On Thu, Sep 15, 2011 at 5:20 PM, Robin Marks wrote:
> Snip >> I would start the project first and order the engine later in the
> build. Things happen, people "need" to stop building, some even need to sell
> off their projects. Engines will come up, the prices may as well but you
> will have options.
>
> I don't necessarily think that is an excellent price and as such with all
> the potential unknowns would have me following Pascal's suggestion and wait.
> A friend purchased a similar "sounding" engine for $10k. He is now flying
> and the engine was a good deal to get flying but it is making metal and it
> can not come close to the power generated by my BPE engine. He comments
> every time we take off in my -10.
> See how quickly this engine showed up? The same thing will happen closer to
> the time you will actually need an engine. I say wait.
>
> Robin
>
> Sent from my iPad2.
>
> On Sep 15, 2011, at 12:23 PM, "Pascal" wrote:
>
>
> Same here. I felt that new was overkill, specially since I wanted the old
> Narrow deck core. America's was first rate.
> Interestingly they had an engine with the same hours off a plane that was
> being parted out. America's would not sell the engine to me unless they
> first verified all was fine inside. All was close to new, but if it wasn't,
> than we would know for sure. When it comes to engines unless you open it up
> and see what's inside, you're guessing it's fine.. that was not a risk I was
> willing to take. I suppose documents and scopes would work..but I am
> "trusting" it's accurate.
> If you're A&P is reliable and can scope and do everything for you to assure
> it's solid, you may be fine.
> People have left engines sitting for years, but they were building already,
> you are planning to put off a 10k investment in a tail kit but are willing
> to spend 15K on a engine you wont need for a while?
> I would start the project first and order the engine later in the build.
> Things happen, people "need" to stop building, some even need to sell off
> their projects. Engines will come up, the prices may as well but you will
> have options.
> Best of success!
> Pascal
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Sohrab Kermanj
> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 9:15 AM
> To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Should I pop on this IO540?
>
>
> I bought a zero time engine with new cam and first run crank, new mags and
> overhauled accessories (fuel pump, servo) completely new top end from
> Americas Aircraft engine for less that twice that. No core was required. My
> vote is to talk to AAE.
>
> Rob Kermanj
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 15, 2011, at 11:47 AM, Rick wrote:
>
>
> It's on VAF for 17.9k
>
>
> Rick
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>
> On Sep 15, 2011, at 8:14 AM, "EdKranz" wrote:
>
>
> I'm not planning on ordering my tail kit until after the holiday season is
> over, and I didn't think I'd need to worry about a motor for a few more
> years... but...
>
>
> I just got an email from a A&P friend of mine who knows I'm going to be
> building. He says that he found an IO540 D4A5 for me. It's currently on
> another plane that they are going to be downsizing to a 200HP motor.
>
>
> It has 890 hours on it, "Not damaged, no prop strikes" and he's going to
> sell it with all the accessories. It has Bendix mags.
>
>
> I had always figured I'd go the new route with either a Barrett or
> Aerosports engine, but if the price is right, and I can be CONFIDENT in the
> motor, I might consider this route.
>
>
> I don't have a firm price that he is asking yet, but he said "about 1/3 the
> new cost" that he looked up on the Vans website... so I'm guessing around
> $15,000.
>
>
> What are your opinions on this? What is the cost of a rebuild on a D4A5?
> Would I be able save any money and still have a reliable motor?
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=352368#352368
>
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| From: | Kelly McMullen <kellym(at)aviating.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Should I pop on this IO540? |
Yes, was offered an engine today. I will probably need one in 4-6
months. 250hp carbureted Aztec engine. 5 yrs and 200 hours since major,
narrow deck. No other information about who did the overhaul, etc.
Seller wants 20K. Selling because Aztec airframe is bent and worthless,
so trying to get his money back out of engines and avionics. I declined.
Also was A1D5 version which lacks fuel injection and better
counterweights in the C4B5 or A4D5
On 9/15/2011 3:20 PM, Robin Marks wrote:
> Snip >> I would start the project first and order the engine later in
> the build. Things happen, people "need" to stop building, some even
> need to sell off their projects. Engines will come up, the prices may
> as well but you will have options.
>
> I don't necessarily think that is an excellent price and as such with
> all the potential unknowns would have me following Pascal's suggestion
> and wait. A friend purchased a similar "sounding" engine for $10k. He
> is now flying and the engine was a good deal to get flying but it is
> making metal and it can not come close to the power generated by my
> BPE engine. He comments every time we take off in my -10.
> See how quickly this engine showed up? The same thing will happen
> closer to the time you will actually need an engine. I say wait.
>
> Robin
>
> Sent from my iPad2.
>
> On Sep 15, 2011, at 12:23 PM, "Pascal" > wrote:
>
>> >
>>
>> Same here. I felt that new was overkill, specially since I wanted the
>> old Narrow deck core. America's was first rate.
>> Interestingly they had an engine with the same hours off a plane that
>> was being parted out. America's would not sell the engine to me
>> unless they first verified all was fine inside. All was close to new,
>> but if it wasn't, than we would know for sure. When it comes to
>> engines unless you open it up and see what's inside, you're guessing
>> it's fine.. that was not a risk I was willing to take. I suppose
>> documents and scopes would work..but I am "trusting" it's accurate.
>> If you're A&P is reliable and can scope and do everything for you to
>> assure it's solid, you may be fine.
>> People have left engines sitting for years, but they were building
>> already, you are planning to put off a 10k investment in a tail kit
>> but are willing to spend 15K on a engine you wont need for a while?
>> I would start the project first and order the engine later in the
>> build. Things happen, people "need" to stop building, some even need
>> to sell off their projects. Engines will come up, the prices may as
>> well but you will have options.
>> Best of success!
>> Pascal
>>
>> -----Original Message----- From: Sohrab Kermanj
>> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 9:15 AM
>> To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
>> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Should I pop on this IO540?
>>
>> >
>>
>> I bought a zero time engine with new cam and first run crank, new
>> mags and overhauled accessories (fuel pump, servo) completely new top
>> end from Americas Aircraft engine for less that twice that. No core
>> was required. My vote is to talk to AAE.
>>
>> Rob Kermanj
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Sep 15, 2011, at 11:47 AM, Rick > > wrote:
>>
>>> >
>>>
>>> It's on VAF for 17.9k
>>>
>>> Rick
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Sep 15, 2011, at 8:14 AM, "EdKranz" >> > wrote:
>>>
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> I'm not planning on ordering my tail kit until after the holiday
>>>> season is over, and I didn't think I'd need to worry about a motor
>>>> for a few more years... but...
>>>>
>>>> I just got an email from a A&P friend of mine who knows I'm going
>>>> to be building. He says that he found an IO540 D4A5 for me. It's
>>>> currently on another plane that they are going to be downsizing to
>>>> a 200HP motor.
>>>>
>>>> It has 890 hours on it, "Not damaged, no prop strikes" and he's
>>>> going to sell it with all the accessories. It has Bendix mags.
>>>>
>>>> I had always figured I'd go the new route with either a Barrett or
>>>> Aerosports engine, but if the price is right, and I can be
>>>> CONFIDENT in the motor, I might consider this route.
>>>>
>>>> I don't have a firm price that he is asking yet, but he said "about
>>>> 1/3 the new cost" that he looked up on the Vans website... so I'm
>>>> guessing around $15,000.
>>>>
>>>> What are your opinions on this? What is the cost of a rebuild on a
>>>> D4A5? Would I be able save any money and still have a reliable motor?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Read this topic online here:
>>>>
>>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=352368#352368
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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| From: | Michael Kraus <n223rv(at)wolflakeairport.net> |
On Foreflight, you can buy one subscription and it works For both the iPhone and
iPad.
Is it the same for WingX, or do you need 2 subscriptions? One for ipad and one
for iPhone?
Sent from my iPhone
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| Subject: | Re: Should I pop on this IO540? |
| From: | Jerald Folkerts <jfolkerts1(at)gmail.com> |
My rebuild cost approx 6k from a local shop. Of course, it would depend on
condition. I would just put it on and run it. However, before they remove
it have them properly preserve it. Preservation kits are approx $200.
Jerry Folkerts
On Thursday, September 15, 2011, Kelly McMullen wrote:
>
> Yes, was offered an engine today. I will probably need one in 4-6 months.
250hp carbureted Aztec engine. 5 yrs and 200 hours since major, narrow deck.
No other information about who did the overhaul, etc. Seller wants 20K.
Selling because Aztec airframe is bent and worthless, so trying to get his
money back out of engines and avionics. I declined. Also was A1D5 version
which lacks fuel injection and better counterweights in the C4B5 or A4D5
>
> On 9/15/2011 3:20 PM, Robin Marks wrote:
>>
>> Snip >> I would start the project first and order the engine later in the
build. Things happen, people "need" to stop building, some even need to sell
off their projects. Engines will come up, the prices may as well but you
will have options.
>>
>> I don't necessarily think that is an excellent price and as such with all
the potential unknowns would have me following Pascal's suggestion and wait.
A friend purchased a similar "sounding" engine for $10k. He is now flying
and the engine was a good deal to get flying but it is making metal and it
can not come close to the power generated by my BPE engine. He comments
every time we take off in my -10.
>> See how quickly this engine showed up? The same thing will happen closer
to the time you will actually need an engine. I say wait.
>>
>> Robin
>>
>> Sent from my iPad2.
>>
>> On Sep 15, 2011, at 12:23 PM, "Pascal" > wrote:
>>
rv10flyer(at)verizon.net>>
>>>
>>> Same here. I felt that new was overkill, specially since I wanted the
old Narrow deck core. America's was first rate.
>>> Interestingly they had an engine with the same hours off a plane that
was being parted out. America's would not sell the engine to me unless they
first verified all was fine inside. All was close to new, but if it wasn't,
than we would know for sure. When it comes to engines unless you open it up
and see what's inside, you're guessing it's fine.. that was not a risk I was
willing to take. I suppose documents and scopes would work..but I am
"trusting" it's accurate.
>>> If you're A&P is reliable and can scope and do everything for you to
assure it's solid, you may be fine.
>>> People have left engines sitting for years, but they were building
already, you are planning to put off a 10k investment in a tail kit but are
willing to spend 15K on a engine you wont need for a while?
>>> I would start the project first and order the engine later in the build.
Things happen, people "need" to stop building, some even need to sell off
their projects. Engines will come up, the prices may as well but you will
have options.
>>> Best of success!
>>> Pascal
>>>
>>> -----Original Message----- From: Sohrab Kermanj
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 15, 2011 9:15 AM
>>> To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
>>> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Should I pop on this IO540?
>>>
flysrv10(at)gmail.com>>
>>>
>>> I bought a zero time engine with new cam and first run crank, new mags
and overhauled accessories (fuel pump, servo) completely new top end from
Americas Aircraft engine for less that twice that. No core was required. My
vote is to talk to AAE.
>>>
>>> Rob Kermanj
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Sep 15, 2011, at 11:47 AM, Rick > wrote:
>>>
ricksked(at)cox.net>>
>>>>
>>>> It's on VAF for 17.9k
>>>>
>>>> Rick
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On Sep 15, 2011, at 8:14 AM, "EdKranz" > wrote:
>>>>
ed.kranz(at)gmail.com>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm not planning on ordering my tail kit until after the holiday
season is over, and I didn't think I'd need to worry about a motor for a few
more years... but...
>>>>>
>>>>> I just got an email from a A&P friend of mine who knows I'm going to
be building. He says that he found an IO540 D4A5 for me. It's currently on
another plane that they are going to be downsizing to a 200HP motor.
>>>>>
>>>>> It has 890 hours on it, "Not damaged, no prop strikes" and he's going
to sell it with all the accessories. It has Bendix mags.
>>>>>
>>>>> I had always figured I'd go the new route with either a Barrett or
Aerosports engine, but if the price is right, and I can be CONFIDENT in the
motor, I might consider this route.
>>>>>
>>>>> I don't have a firm price that he is asking yet, but he said "about
1/3 the new cost" that he looked up on the Vans website... so I'm guessing
around $15,000.
>>>>>
>>>>> What are your opinions on this? What is the cost of a rebuild on a
D4A5? Would I be able save any money and still have a reliable motor?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Read this topic online here:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=352368#352368 <
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=352368#352368>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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| Subject: | Re: Dash board edge trim |
| From: | "johngoodman" <johngoodman(at)earthlink.net> |
I got some rubber edge trim from McMaster-Carr. Here is a link:
http://www.mcmaster.com/#trim-molding/=e37ooh
As far as the covering on the glareshield, I painted the metal flat black. So far
it has held up great. For the avionics vent fans, I went with some 80mm computer
fans with a flush grill cover, that double as defoggers.
John
--------
#40572 First flight was on 25 June, 2011
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=352468#352468
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| Subject: | Re: Dash board edge trim |
| From: | Rob Kochman <rv10rob(at)gmail.com> |
Same here--flat black paint looks great. I used the Cleveland ending. I
did not add a vent/defrost fan, which is my biggest regret thus far. It's
way too hot behind the panel.
-Rob
80 hours
On Fri, Sep 16, 2011 at 10:03 AM, johngoodman wrote:
>
> I got some rubber edge trim from McMaster-Carr. Here is a link:
> http://www.mcmaster.com/#trim-molding/=e37ooh
>
> As far as the covering on the glareshield, I painted the metal flat black.
> So far it has held up great. For the avionics vent fans, I went with some
> 80mm computer fans with a flush grill cover, that double as defoggers.
>
> John
>
> --------
> #40572 First flight was on 25 June, 2011
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=352468#352468
>
>
--
Rob Kochman
RV-10 Flying since March 2011
Woodinville, WA
http://kochman.net/N819K
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| From: | Chris <toaster73(at)embarqmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Dash board edge trim |
John,
Sounds good, I too have flat black paint and 2 fans, do you know what exact Mcmaster
part number you got, the link just takes me to the many choices.
Thanks
Chris
----- Original Message -----
From: johngoodman <johngoodman(at)earthlink.net>
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Dash board edge trim
I got some rubber edge trim from McMaster-Carr. Here is a link:
http://www.mcmaster.com/#trim-molding/=e37ooh
As far as the covering on the glareshield, I painted the metal flat black. So far
it has held up great. For the avionics vent fans, I went with some 80mm computer
fans with a flush grill cover, that double as defoggers.
John
--------
#40572 First flight was on 25 June, 2011
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=352468#352468
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| From: | "Fred Williams, M.D." <drfred(at)suddenlinkmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Dash board edge trim |
I used the flat black paint and the edge cover and it has worked well
for me.
Make sure you put in _black_ fan grill covers! Don't use the shiny ones
or you will have the reflection in your windshield. Don't ask me how I
know.......
Dr Fred.
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| From: | David <dmaib(at)mac.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Dash board edge trim |
I too painted the panel top flat back and could not be happier with
it. I used some trim from an auto parts store that looks pretty much
like the far right choice in the top row of John's link. I also used
the same trim for my wing-to-fuselage gap and it has worked great,
David Maib
40559 Flying
just turned over 400 hours.
On Sep 16, 2011, at 2:55 PM, Chris wrote:
>
> John,
> Sounds good, I too have flat black paint and 2 fans, do you know
> what exact Mcmaster part number you got, the link just takes me to
> the many choices.
> Thanks
> Chris
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: johngoodman <johngoodman(at)earthlink.net>
> To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Re: Dash board edge trim
>
>
>
> I got some rubber edge trim from McMaster-Carr. Here is a link:
> http://www.mcmaster.com/#trim-molding/=e37ooh
>
> As far as the covering on the glareshield, I painted the metal flat
> black. So far it has held up great. For the avionics vent fans, I
> went with some 80mm computer fans with a flush grill cover, that
> double as defoggers.
>
> John
>
> --------
> #40572 First flight was on 25 June, 2011
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=352468#352468
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Dash board edge trim |
| From: | "johngoodman" <johngoodman(at)earthlink.net> |
Chris,
The one I ordered was Style 6, 8507K15 - 6 feet. But, a lot of the others will
fit as well. Since you are already there, take a look at 1120A411. That's the
stuff I used for the door edge trim - I love it.
John
toaster73(at)embarqmail.c wrote:
> John,
> Sounds good, I too have flat black paint and 2 fans, do you know what exact Mcmaster
part number you got, the link just takes me to the many choices.
> Thanks
> Chris
> ---
--------
#40572 First flight was on 25 June, 2011
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=352488#352488
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| Subject: | Re: Dash board edge trim |
| From: | David Leikam <arplnplt(at)gmail.com> |
I used black spray on truck bed liner for my dash. Very tough and has a nice textured
finish.
Dave Leikam
On Sep 16, 2011, at 1:55 PM, Chris wrote:
>
> John,
> Sounds good, I too have flat black paint and 2 fans, do you know what exact Mcmaster
part number you got, the link just takes me to the many choices.
> Thanks
> Chris
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: johngoodman <johngoodman(at)earthlink.net>
> To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Re: Dash board edge trim
>
>
> I got some rubber edge trim from McMaster-Carr. Here is a link:
> http://www.mcmaster.com/#trim-molding/=e37ooh
>
> As far as the covering on the glareshield, I painted the metal flat black. So
far it has held up great. For the avionics vent fans, I went with some 80mm computer
fans with a flush grill cover, that double as defoggers.
>
> John
>
> --------
> #40572 First flight was on 25 June, 2011
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=352468#352468
>
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| From: | "Ronald Simonton" <simie1(at)knology.net> |
| Subject: | Re: WingX question |
I have both WingX and Foreflight ----- WingX only works on my iPad ---
Foreflight works on iPad and iPhone ------ overall I prefer WingX, but wish
it would transfer to my iPhone.
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| Subject: | Re: WingX question |
| From: | Michael Kraus <n223rv(at)wolflakeairport.net> |
<>
So that's the deal breaker for me. Foreflight works on both. I use it in m
y iPhone 90% and iPad 10% (probably because I always carry the iPhone). I d
on't want to drop another $100 if I can't use it on both. I'll stick with m
y Foreflight!!
-Mike Kraus
Sent from my iPhone
On Sep 17, 2011, at 7:33 AM, "Ronald Simonton" wrote:
> I have both WingX and Foreflight ----- WingX only works on my iPad --- For
eflight works on iPad and iPhone ------ overall I prefer WingX, but wish it w
ould transfer to my iPhone.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: WingX question |
| From: | Tim Olson <Tim(at)MyRV10.com> |
Well, wingX *is* on both my iPhone and ipad, but it does mostly suck on the i
Phone. I've been shocked that they don't focus any effort on it.
I still stand by my earlier assessment that WingX is better in flight (on ip
ad) than foreflight, but foreflight is better pre-flight by far.
For those flying lots of IFR, wingX with georeferenced charts add-on is grea
t. Then still keep a NON-Georef subscription to foreflight and you get all y
ou need to do it all.
If you want to save money then drop the georeferencing.
If you don't fly IFR I'd skip ALL georeferencing and maybe just do forefligh
t. The biggest benefits of wingX become more useful when flying IFR and man
ipulating approach plates and charts, and the georef taxi diagrams.
I had to laugh when seeing the 3D garmin 796....what a joke. Like seeing a 3
D airplane in the middle of the screen will do anything for you. They call i
t ipad killer but that product is a real joke at over 2000$. You coould buy
an ipad AND wingX and foreflight AND data subscriptions for many years for t
hat price. And it weighs much more and is thicker and smaller and less usef
ul for other things you may want, and still has less battery life. Foreflig
hts last announcement email says that they plan XM weather in their next rel
ease or version....soon. And you can already get ADS-B on some software. I
t's still evolving. A 796 is likely to stay as-is until the 896 comes out.
I used to love garmin handhelds, but today it seems a bit like the days of m
y initial GPS systems....when garmins non-aviation boxes were limited to 90k
ts to force you to pay more for aviation models.
Their glory days of the 396/496 are now behind them and they will have to pl
ay catch-up better than they are....even their phone apps are released with l
ess feature for more money.
Tim
On Sep 17, 2011, at 6:33 AM, "Ronald Simonton" wrote:
> I have both WingX and Foreflight ----- WingX only works on my iPad --- For
eflight works on iPad and iPhone ------ overall I prefer WingX, but wish it w
ould transfer to my iPhone.
>
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| From: | "Albert Gardner" <ibspud(at)roadrunner.com> |
I first used an ipad on my 5 week jaunt around the country and learned
to love it. Takes some getting used to and I really looking to their
adding weather. I have an 496 and will probably keep it just for that
reason until they do and maybe even after for backup. Haven=99t
used WingX, I=99m VFR only but Foreflight is great. I prefer the
airport info from FlightguideEFB but Foreflight is adequate. I miss
having the reverse side of TAC charts though. That=99s the side
that has the VFR routes through class B. Fuel prices are nice to have
but you=99d better call to verify. Otherwise it seems they just
raised them yesterday. Haven=99t found a great way to mount the
ipad yet.
Albert Gardner
N991RV
Yuma AZ
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tim Olson
Sent: Saturday, September 17, 2011 6:29 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: WingX question
Well, wingX *is* on both my iPhone and ipad, but it does mostly suck on
the iPhone. I've been shocked that they don't focus any effort on it.
I still stand by my earlier assessment that WingX is better in flight
(on ipad) than foreflight, but foreflight is better pre-flight by far.
For those flying lots of IFR, wingX with georeferenced charts add-on is
great. Then still keep a NON-Georef subscription to foreflight and you
get all you need to do it all.
If you want to save money then drop the georeferencing.
If you don't fly IFR I'd skip ALL georeferencing and maybe just do
foreflight. The biggest benefits of wingX become more useful when
flying IFR and manipulating approach plates and charts, and the georef
taxi diagrams.
I had to laugh when seeing the 3D garmin 796....what a joke. Like
seeing a 3D airplane in the middle of the screen will do anything for
you. They call it ipad killer but that product is a real joke at over
2000$. You coould buy an ipad AND wingX and foreflight AND data
subscriptions for many years for that price. And it weighs much more
and is thicker and smaller and less useful for other things you may
want, and still has less battery life. Foreflights last announcement
email says that they plan XM weather in their next release or
version....soon. And you can already get ADS-B on some software. It's
still evolving. A 796 is likely to stay as-is until the 896 comes out.
I used to love garmin handhelds, but today it seems a bit like the days
of my initial GPS systems....when garmins non-aviation boxes were
limited to 90kts to force you to pay more for aviation models.
Their glory days of the 396/496 are now behind them and they will have
to play catch-up better than they are....even their phone apps are
released with less feature for more money.
Tim
On Sep 17, 2011, at 6:33 AM, "Ronald Simonton"
wrote:
I have both WingX and Foreflight ----- WingX only works on my iPad ---
Foreflight works on iPad and iPhone ------ overall I prefer WingX, but
wish it would transfer to my iPhone.
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| Subject: | Re: Horrible Crash at the Reno Air Races |
| From: | "AirMike" <Mikeabel(at)Pacbell.net> |
My wife and I volunteer every year for line security at the Reno Air Races. Yesterday
was a truly tragic day at the races and could spell the end of the event
for all times. We had just finished our shift at a remote entry gate, and had
been touring the venue on the East end of the field. We were sitting in the
cockpit of a C17 military aircraft when we looked to the west end of the field
and saw the crash of the P51.
It was truly a horrible sight to see and we were stunned at the horror of the crash,
not realizing at the time the sheer magnitude of the crash and the number
of casualties. As directed we left the field immediately and went home All
of our friends and fellow volunteers with EAA 1073 are ok also. I do not see how
these races can continue. they have been canceled for the rest of this weekend.
Who will sell RARA the insurance for such an event next year?
The crash occurred about mid field, just outside the box seats on the front row.
The crash debris was propelled to the north - away from the crowd. It now seems
clear that it was caused by failure of the trim tab (See pic at KOLOTV.com).
As tragic as the crash was, if it were only slightly to the south, the casualties
would have increased exponentially. All in all a sad day for RARA, Reno
and all of the aviation community.
--------
See you OSH '12
Q/B - flying 2 yrs.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=352524#352524
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| From: | "Chris" <toaster73(at)embarqmail.com> |
Thanks for the replies on the dash trim piece!! now on to the next question
I have... I have the elevator rigged with the jig called out on page 39-10
figure 1. This results in the inside AN3-10 bolt on the bottom of the
WD-1011L/R stick base weldment hitting the 1033-L/R control column mount at
the full aft stick and full left or right roll. Archives seem to point
toward discounting the jig and I guess the fix is to shorten the F-1089
and/or F-1090 to bring the WD-1011-L/R lower bolts aft and away from the
1033 while still maintaining the desired full up elevator deflection and
contact to elevator stops. Doing this would basically ignore the jig
setting, and thats ok?? I put the head of the bolts in opposite what the
plans show and still have contact.
Thanks for any input.
-Chris
#40072
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| Subject: | Re: Horrible Crash at the Reno Air Races |
| From: | John Cox <rv10pro(at)gmail.com> |
I had several friends in the box seats. They have not checked in and Reno
hospitals are only talking to direct family members. PRAYERS out to
everyone connected.
Spent the morning giving a pint to the bank. Thinking of flying in to give
it direct to RNO.
John
On Sep 17, 2011 11:18 AM, "AirMike" wrote:
>
> My wife and I volunteer every year for line security at the Reno Air
Races. Yesterday was a truly tragic day at the races and could spell the end
of the event for all times. We had just finished our shift at a remote entry
gate, and had been touring the venue on the East end of the field. We were
sitting in the cockpit of a C17 military aircraft when we looked to the west
end of the field and saw the crash of the P51.
> It was truly a horrible sight to see and we were stunned at the horror of
the crash, not realizing at the time the sheer magnitude of the crash and
the number of casualties. As directed we left the field immediately and went
home All of our friends and fellow volunteers with EAA 1073 are ok also. I
do not see how these races can continue. they have been canceled for the
rest of this weekend. Who will sell RARA the insurance for such an event
next year?
>
> The crash occurred about mid field, just outside the box seats on the
front row. The crash debris was propelled to the north - away from the
crowd. It now seems clear that it was caused by failure of the trim tab (See
pic at KOLOTV.com). As tragic as the crash was, if it were only slightly to
the south, the casualties would have increased exponentially. All in all a
sad day for RARA, Reno and all of the aviation community.
>
> --------
> See you OSH '12
> Q/B - flying 2 yrs.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=352524#352524
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Elevator Rig |
| From: | "Bob Turner" <bobturner(at)alum.rpi.edu> |
I recall having the same issue; however, mine was fixed by reversing the direction
of the bolts, which you say you have already done.
You certainly do not want them catching, you need to fine tune as needed to avoid
that. Of course, you may have trouble at the other end, too, with the stick
hitting the instrument panel. Depends on what stick grip you use. I was able
(but not with a lot of margin) find a setting that avoided both problems.
good luck.
--------
Bob Turner
RV-10 QB
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=352562#352562
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| From: | Bill Watson <Mauledriver(at)nc.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Elevator Rig |
Re the stick hitting the panel. Can be dependent on panel choice but
seems like even the standard panel needs to have the stick modified a
bit. I bent mine to reduce it's height. Others have cut and welded to
shorten it and move it back a bit from the panel.
Bill
On 9/18/2011 12:57 AM, Bob Turner wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Bob Turner"
>
> I recall having the same issue; however, mine was fixed by reversing the direction
of the bolts, which you say you have already done.
>
> You certainly do not want them catching, you need to fine tune as needed to avoid
that. Of course, you may have trouble at the other end, too, with the stick
hitting the instrument panel. Depends on what stick grip you use. I was able
(but not with a lot of margin) find a setting that avoided both problems.
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Chris" <toaster73(at)embarqmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Elevator Rig |
Thanks for the insight again Bob/Bill, I was able shorten the 1089 and 1090
a bit and get everything to miss everything. For good measure I carefully
rounded the corner of the 1033 control support along its lower outside edge.
My coolie hat on the right stick just misses the bottom of the panel. My
left stick is fine. There seems to be a slight difference in the weldments
between left and right stick, the left stick cleared the 1033 before the
right. With this set up my jig for the stick neutral is about a half of bolt
hole off, I think this is will be ok. Also no interfernce is seen on any of
the control rods and bellcranks going back to the elevators.
Thanks
Chris
#40072
N919AR
W & B coming up!
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Watson
Sent: Sunday, September 18, 2011 1:18 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Re: Elevator Rig
Re the stick hitting the panel. Can be dependent on panel choice but
seems like even the standard panel needs to have the stick modified a
bit. I bent mine to reduce it's height. Others have cut and welded to
shorten it and move it back a bit from the panel.
Bill
On 9/18/2011 12:57 AM, Bob Turner wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Bob Turner"
>
> I recall having the same issue; however, mine was fixed by reversing the
direction of the bolts, which you say you have already done.
>
> You certainly do not want them catching, you need to fine tune as needed
to avoid that. Of course, you may have trouble at the other end, too, with
the stick hitting the instrument panel. Depends on what stick grip you use.
I was able (but not with a lot of margin) find a setting that avoided both
problems.
>
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| From: | "Rene" <rene(at)felker.com> |
I might have to fly down to Phoenix this week. Looks like Deer Valley or
Scottsdale are the closest.....Deer Valley looks better from a cost
perspective. Any opinions from the locals or other who have been down
there.
I will be coming from Utah.
Rene'
801-721-6080
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| From: | "Carl Froehlich" <carl.froehlich(at)verizon.net> |
| Subject: | Need some measurements |
Fighting an exhaust system fit up problem.
Need two measurements:
- On the standard Van's cowl, the width of the bottom cowl air
exhaust opening
- On the standard Vetterman's exhaust system, the distance between
the outside edge of the two heat muffs. In other words, looking for the
width of the exhaust system in the lower portion of the cowl.
Thanks,
Carl
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: Trip to Phoenix |
| From: | David McNeill <dlm34077(at)q.com> |
I will call later today. Inflight now
Sent from my iPad
On Sep 18, 2011, at 22:21, "Rene" wrote:
>
> I might have to fly down to Phoenix this week. Looks like Deer Valley or
> Scottsdale are the closest.....Deer Valley looks better from a cost
> perspective. Any opinions from the locals or other who have been down
> there.
>
> I will be coming from Utah.
>
> Rene'
> 801-721-6080
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| From: | Kelly McMullen <kellym(at)aviating.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Trip to Phoenix |
Closest to your ground destination or shortest flight? Falcon or
Chandler have significantly cheaper fuel prices. Most downtown Phoenix
destinations are ~30 min drive from any of the area GA airports. They
all have nearby freeway access for quick trip into town at other than
rush hour.
DVT is very busy with Chinese flight students. SDL is very busy with
corporate jets. Deems is based at DVT and can give detailed current info
there. There are a couple flying -10s at FFZ and at least one at CHD as
well as several projects in various stages. The main thing to keep in
mind for Phoenix area is that the Tracon generally does not work GA
traffic for anything but the VFR transition cooridor over PHX, so you
have to plan your descent to be underneath the Class B. (ie less
friendly than SLC approach).
On 9/18/2011 8:21 PM, Rene wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Rene"
>
> I might have to fly down to Phoenix this week. Looks like Deer Valley or
> Scottsdale are the closest.....Deer Valley looks better from a cost
> perspective. Any opinions from the locals or other who have been down
> there.
>
> I will be coming from Utah.
>
> Rene'
> 801-721-6080
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Trip to Phoenix |
| From: | John Ackerman <johnag5b(at)cableone.net> |
I'll second all that stuff that Kelly wrote. DVT has a reputation for interminable
taxi times. I haven't been to FFZ lately, but it used to be a great place
to visit. I hear that it is busier now, too.
If you get anywhere near the Phoenix class B, be exceedingly careful. Phoenix tracon
is MUCH less GA friendly than the other tracons in the western US. They
will commonly give vectors into the B without corresponding clearance. If that
happens, it's the pilot who takes the punishment, and the likelihood that you
will be violated if you bust the B is high. Watch out. Be especially careful
on takeoff from FFZ to the SW.
The way I like to handle it is to use flight following and get a B clearance if
Phoenix tracon will issue one. Sometimes they will, sometimes they won't, and
it's not necessarily related to the amount of traffic you hear on whatever frequency
you're on.
Be aware of the Luke AFB SATR airspace west of Phoenix. Special rules apply, see:
http://www.luke.af.mil/shared/media/document/AFD-081107-056.pdf
You must talk to Luke RAPCON. Lots of F16s there.
On Sep 19, 2011, at 6:51 AM, Kelly McMullen wrote:
>
> Closest to your ground destination or shortest flight? Falcon or Chandler have
significantly cheaper fuel prices. Most downtown Phoenix destinations are ~30
min drive from any of the area GA airports. They all have nearby freeway access
for quick trip into town at other than rush hour.
> DVT is very busy with Chinese flight students. SDL is very busy with corporate
jets. Deems is based at DVT and can give detailed current info there. There
are a couple flying -10s at FFZ and at least one at CHD as well as several projects
in various stages. The main thing to keep in mind for Phoenix area is that
the Tracon generally does not work GA traffic for anything but the VFR transition
cooridor over PHX, so you have to plan your descent to be underneath the
Class B. (ie less friendly than SLC approach).
>
> On 9/18/2011 8:21 PM, Rene wrote:
>> --> RV10-List message posted by: "Rene"
>>
>> I might have to fly down to Phoenix this week. Looks like Deer Valley or
>> Scottsdale are the closest.....Deer Valley looks better from a cost
>> perspective. Any opinions from the locals or other who have been down
>> there.
>>
>> I will be coming from Utah.
>>
>> Rene'
>> 801-721-6080
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
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| From: | "Rene Felker" <rene(at)felker.com> |
I think we lost our connection again. Thanks for the info. I think I will
try Falcon. Let you know how it goes.
Rene' Felker
N423CF
801-721-6080
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of David McNeill
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2011 6:43 AM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Trip to Phoenix
I will call later today. Inflight now
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On Sep 18, 2011, at 22:21, "Rene" wrote:
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> I might have to fly down to Phoenix this week. Looks like Deer Valley or
> Scottsdale are the closest.....Deer Valley looks better from a cost
> perspective. Any opinions from the locals or other who have been down
> there.
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> I will be coming from Utah.
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| From: | Kelly McMullen <kellym(at)aviating.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Trip to Phoenix |
Just as bad as the taxi delays...they will land you on the north runway,
often making you turn off the runway to the north, then make 5 frequency
changes between ground and tower freqs to get to the terminal on the
south side. (ground to taxi to crossing taxiway, north tower to cross
north runway, ground to taxi between runways, south tower to cross south
runway, ground to cross parallel taxiway to ramp)
On 9/19/2011 7:57 AM, John Ackerman wrote:
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> I'll second all that stuff that Kelly wrote. DVT has a reputation for interminable
taxi times. I haven't been to FFZ lately, but it used to be a great place
to visit. I hear that it is busier now, too.
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> enerous support!
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| From: | Bruce Johnson <bruce1hwjohnson(at)yahoo.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Trip to Phoenix |
DVT isn't is bad as all that, they do get busy with the flight training, bu
t FFZ has that-also. Class B starts about 20 miles N of DVT and it comes
down gradually like you will be doing. Gas is not cheap and is about .50 ce
nts cheaper at Chandler, haven't bought any recently at FFZ. Enjoy your fli
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| From: | Jim Beyer <fehdxlbb(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Trip to Phoenix |
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| Subject: | Re: Need some measurements |
| From: | "rv10flyer" <wayne.gillispie(at)yahoo.com> |
Give me a few days and I will provide you with some.
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Wayne Gillispie, A&P 5/93, PPC 10/08
Bldr# 40983SB Baffles then fuel/oil/exhaust.
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=352754#352754
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| Subject: | Dynon Pitch Servo Mounting kit for sale. |
| From: | "billz" <billz(at)roadrunner.com> |
I purchased the RV-10 pitch servo mounting kit from Dynon last year (7/10) and
changed my mind. (I'm now going with a Trutrak.) This is Dynon part number 101020-006
which I paid $75 plus $20 shipping. All parts are new and unused.
If someone is interested in purchasing this I would consider any reasonable offer.
Contact me by email: billz(at)roadrunner.com
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=352850#352850
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| Subject: | Re: Dynon Pitch Servo Mounting kit for sale. |
| From: | Michael Kraus <n223rv(at)wolflakeairport.net> |
It will fit the TruTrack servo. Really don't need to change it out. Although
electrically the servos are different, mechanically they are not. Just have TruTrack
not sell you their install kit.
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On Sep 21, 2011, at 9:39 AM, "billz" wrote:
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changed my mind. (I'm now going with a Trutrak.) This is Dynon part number
101020-006 which I paid $75 plus $20 shipping. All parts are new and unused.
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| Subject: | Re: parking brake valve |
| From: | "jayb" <jaybrinkmeyer(at)yahoo.com> |
Thanks for posting this. I pulled my PV-1 out and sent it in for re-work. The timing
was perfect as my panel isn't yet in place. Re-work was simply adding two
countersinks to allow the gaskets to seal better. I don't know how the change
will work as I'm not yet using the valve.
Cheers,
Jay
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| From: | Bill Watson <Mauledriver(at)nc.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: parking brake valve |
Glad to hear that. I put mine back in and re-bled the system. Haven't
put in service yet but no leaks so far.
Frankly, I'm still not clear on where the countersinks were done but no
matter.
Bill
On 9/21/2011 1:47 PM, jayb wrote:
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> Thanks for posting this. I pulled my PV-1 out and sent it in for re-work. The
timing was perfect as my panel isn't yet in place. Re-work was simply adding
two countersinks to allow the gaskets to seal better. I don't know how the change
will work as I'm not yet using the valve.
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| Subject: | Re: Dynon Pitch Servo Mounting kit for sale. |
| From: | "rvdave" <davidbf(at)centurytel.net> |
Bill,
Don't know if you already have tru trak servos but I've decided to go with Dynon
servos and am selling the TT servos--pitch and roll, I currently have. They
are current with service bulletin upgrades. If you're interested they are available.
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Dave Ford
RV6 flying
RV10 building
Cadillac, MI
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=352907#352907
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| From: | "John Cumins" <jcumins(at)jcis.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Dynon Pitch Servo Mounting kit for sale. |
David
How much do you want for the TT servos. I am still on the wings so now
might be the time to get them.
John Cumins
40864 Wings
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of rvdave
Sent: Wednesday, September 21, 2011 5:27 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Dynon Pitch Servo Mounting kit for sale.
Bill,
Don't know if you already have tru trak servos but I've decided to go with
Dynon servos and am selling the TT servos--pitch and roll, I currently have.
They are current with service bulletin upgrades. If you're interested they
are available.
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Dave Ford
RV6 flying
RV10 building
Cadillac, MI
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=352907#352907
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| Subject: | Re: Dynon Pitch Servo Mounting kit for sale. |
| From: | "rvdave" <davidbf(at)centurytel.net> |
John,
I am selling the pair for $1800, they are DSB-C roll and the DCP-TOR pitch servos
designated for the RV10.
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Dave Ford
RV6 flying
RV10 building
Cadillac, MI
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=352921#352921
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| From: | Patrick Pulis <rv10free2fly(at)yahoo.com.au> |
| Subject: | Hartzell Propeller - Spinner Template |
For those not aware of the existence of the Hartzell propeller - spinner te
mplate, I have attached same for your reference.=0A-=0ARegards from down-
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| Subject: | Re: Hartzell Propeller - Spinner Template |
| From: | "rv10flyer" <wayne.gillispie(at)yahoo.com> |
Helps get you started for sure.
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Wayne Gillispie, A&P 5/93, PPC 10/08
Bldr# 40983SB Baffles then fuel/oil/exhaust.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=353005#353005
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| From: | Bill Watson <Mauledriver(at)nc.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Hartzell Propeller - Spinner Template |
Indeed it does. I know someone was wondering about how to cut out the
spinner before. I didn't know where the template was, but I used it and
it worked perfectly without further modification.
Bill
On 9/22/2011 8:51 PM, rv10flyer wrote:
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| Subject: | Re: Dynon Pitch Servo Mounting kit for sale. |
| From: | "Ron B." <ronbelliveau(at)eastlink.ca> |
Dave, have you heard when Dynon will have the RV-10 servos available? Last I checked
they said before the end of this month, which is nearing fast.
Ron
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=353060#353060
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| From: | "Pascal" <rv10flyer(at)verizon.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Dynon Pitch Servo Mounting kit for sale. |
I have the servos in my RV-10, they are installed and working. What are you
looking for?
3.2 came out yesterday that is the only thing I believe Dynon was releasing
this month.
-----Original Message-----
From: Ron B.
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 12:52 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Dynon Pitch Servo Mounting kit for sale.
Dave, have you heard when Dynon will have the RV-10 servos available? Last I
checked they said before the end of this month, which is nearing fast.
Ron
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=353060#353060
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| Subject: | Dynon roll servo settings? |
| From: | Rob Kochman <rv10rob(at)gmail.com> |
Anyone have a good set of Dynon roll servo settings for the RV-10? I feel
like I've tried everything, and still am not happy with the result. Nav
mode is rock solid, but heading mode wanders all over the place.
Thanks...
-Rob
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Rob Kochman
RV-10 Flying since March 2011
Woodinville, WA
http://kochman.net/N819K
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| Subject: | Re: Dynon Pitch Servo Mounting kit for sale. |
| From: | Michael Kraus <n223rv(at)wolflakeairport.net> |
I've been flying my RV-10 since May, but I bought my Dynon Skyview and autopilot
servos a year or two ago..... They work great!
Sent from my iPhone
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| Subject: | Re: Dynon roll servo settings? |
| From: | Michael Kraus <n223rv(at)wolflakeairport.net> |
Which Dynon System do you have? I have the Skyview and used factory setting
s. They've been pretty good for heading, but I'm still tweaking pitch. -Mi
ke Kraus
Sent from my iPhone
On Sep 23, 2011, at 5:13 PM, Rob Kochman wrote:
> Anyone have a good set of Dynon roll servo settings for the RV-10? I feel
like I've tried everything, and still am not happy with the result. Nav mo
de is rock solid, but heading mode wanders all over the place.
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> Rob Kochman
> RV-10 Flying since March 2011
> Woodinville, WA
> http://kochman.net/N819K
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| Subject: | Re: Dynon Pitch Servo Mounting kit for sale. |
| From: | "Ron B." <ronbelliveau(at)eastlink.ca> |
How is your Skyview AP working for you in the RV-10 with the standard servo? We
are not able to use our AP at all, we had somewhat results with the SV-42 servos
and tried upgrading to the SV-52 but the system is not usable (for us) with
the SV-52 servos. Don't know why and we were told to hold tight until they released
the linear actuated servos. Glad to hear your's is working properly.
Ron
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| Subject: | Tire in Atlanta? |
| From: | Jesse Saint <jesse(at)saintaviation.com> |
Is anybody on the list in the KLZU area that I could get a main tire from for an
RV-10? I'm stranded until I get one & the local shop is out.
Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
jesse(at)itecusa.org
www.itecusa.org
www.mavericklsa.com
C: 352-427-0285
O: 352-465-4545
F: 815-377-3694
Sent from my iPhone
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| From: | Linn Walters <pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Tire in Atlanta? |
There is a very active EAA chapter at LZU. You should be able to get
hold of someone through the FBO. The FBO I used had copies of the
chapter newsletter on the table.
Linn
On 9/23/2011 7:14 PM, Jesse Saint wrote:
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an RV-10? I'm stranded until I get one& the local shop is out.
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> Jesse Saint
> I-TEC, Inc.
> jesse(at)itecusa.org
> www.itecusa.org
> www.mavericklsa.com
> C: 352-427-0285
> O: 352-465-4545
> F: 815-377-3694
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| From: | Linn Walters <pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Tire in Atlanta? |
Hit 'send too quickly'
LZU EAA website is at http://www.690.eaachapter.org/
Phone # at the hangar .... 770 339-0804
Hope this helped!!!
Linn
On 9/23/2011 7:14 PM, Jesse Saint wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Jesse Saint
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an RV-10? I'm stranded until I get one& the local shop is out.
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> Jesse Saint
> I-TEC, Inc.
> jesse(at)itecusa.org
> www.itecusa.org
> www.mavericklsa.com
> C: 352-427-0285
> O: 352-465-4545
> F: 815-377-3694
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| From: | "Pascal" <rv10flyer(at)verizon.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Dynon roll servo settings? |
Rob;
I saw this in the manual. You may have already done this.
Compass Calibration Requirement:
The SkyView autopilot requires an accurate magnetic heading to operate
efficiently and comfortably in heading mode and the radio-based VOR/NAV
mode. Therefore it is critical that the ADAHRS be installed correctly,
calibrated, and operating well in all attitudes.
I know you mentioned NAV worked so this may not be an issue, but
hopefully it may help..
From: Rob Kochman
Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 2:13 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Dynon roll servo settings?
Anyone have a good set of Dynon roll servo settings for the RV-10? I
feel like I've tried everything, and still am not happy with the result.
Nav mode is rock solid, but heading mode wanders all over the place.
Thanks...
-Rob
--
Rob Kochman
RV-10 Flying since March 2011
Woodinville, WA
http://kochman.net/N819K
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| Subject: | Re: Dynon Pitch Servo Mounting kit for sale. |
| From: | Michael Kraus <n223rv(at)wolflakeairport.net> |
I have a standard servo for roll, and the higher torque one for pitch. Heading
mode has always been spot on. In smooth air pitch is fine. On bumpy days it
seems to oscillate a bit. I haven't started tweaking the settings much, but
will soon. Overall I'm happy with the performance and I'm sure the pitch can
be fixed with the settings adjustments....
-Mike Kraus
Sent from my iPhone
On Sep 23, 2011, at 6:31 PM, "Ron B." wrote:
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We are not able to use our AP at all, we had somewhat results with the SV-42 servos
and tried upgrading to the SV-52 but the system is not usable (for us) with
the SV-52 servos. Don't know why and we were told to hold tight until they
released the linear actuated servos. Glad to hear your's is working properly.
> Ron
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| Subject: | Re: Tire in Atlanta? |
| From: | "johngoodman" <johngoodman(at)earthlink.net> |
Jesse,
I live 4 miles from Aircraft Spruce in Peachtree City. They are open on Saturday
until 1600. Give me a call at 7704879648 when you wake up Saturday morning.
John Goodman
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#40572 First flight was on 25 June, 2011
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| Subject: | Re: antenna locations |
| From: | "johngoodman" <johngoodman(at)earthlink.net> |
Rob,
Have you considered moving the Marker Beacon antenna? I imagine it can go almost
anywhere.
John
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#40572 First flight was on 25 June, 2011
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| Subject: | Re: Tire in Atlanta? |
| From: | Jesse Saint <jesse(at)saintaviation.com> |
Thanks for the offers to help. I got a used tire on the field to get me home. Great
community to be a part of.
Jesse Saint
I-TEC, Inc.
jesse(at)itecusa.org
www.itecusa.org
www.mavericklsa.com
C: 352-427-0285
O: 352-465-4545
F: 815-377-3694
Sent from my iPhone
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> I live 4 miles from Aircraft Spruce in Peachtree City. They are open on Saturday
until 1600. Give me a call at 7704879648 when you wake up Saturday morning.
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| Subject: | G3X Component Locations |
| From: | "nukeflyboy" <flymoore(at)charter.net> |
OK you G3X'ers out there - where are you putting the "stuff". After reading the
4197 page instruction manual it appears that the best place for the magnetometer
is in the wing tip, and the AHRS near the firewall.
The reason for the wing tip is to get it away from all the big wires and motors
(eg., trim) and magnetic stuff. The reason for mounting the ARHS forward is
that it also has the engine monitor integral to it and the sensor probes have
to connect to it. Maybe on top of the tunnel?
What have y'all been doing?
I just got my GTX-23 yesterday and it appears that the best place for this transponder
is behind the baggage compartment bulkhead, above the batteries, where
I had originally planned to put the AHRS.
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Dave Moore
RV-6 flying
RV-10 QB - Need to start panel
Rest almost done
Breathing too much fiberglass dust
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| From: | "Stein Bruch" <stein(at)steinair.com> |
| Subject: | G3X Component Locations |
Hi Dave,
The GMU is best placed either in the fuselage on the bulkhead behind the
baggage compartment wall or on the wingtip. We have a custom made mount for
either location so give us a call and we can get one on the way to you. The
Fuse location is nice and handy, but won't work so well if you have an air
conditioner in that same bay...otherwise we have dozens flying with the unit
in that location with no problems. The wingtip is nice as well, but only if
there is no strobe power supply or wingtip fuel tank.
You are correct that the AHRS is best mounted either between the panel and
sub panel, or between the firewall and sub panel directly in front of the
screens so you can easily work on it without crawling around on your back.
The GTX can go in the back or in the front, no problem either way.
My 2 cents as usual!
Cheers,
Stein Bruch
SteinAir, Inc.
651-460-6955
stein(at)steinair.com
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of nukeflyboy
Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2011 3:44 PM
Subject: RV10-List: G3X Component Locations
OK you G3X'ers out there - where are you putting the "stuff". After reading
the 4197 page instruction manual it appears that the best place for the
magnetometer is in the wing tip, and the AHRS near the firewall.
The reason for the wing tip is to get it away from all the big wires and
motors (eg., trim) and magnetic stuff. The reason for mounting the ARHS
forward is that it also has the engine monitor integral to it and the sensor
probes have to connect to it. Maybe on top of the tunnel?
What have y'all been doing?
I just got my GTX-23 yesterday and it appears that the best place for this
transponder is behind the baggage compartment bulkhead, above the batteries,
where I had originally planned to put the AHRS.
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Dave Moore
RV-6 flying
RV-10 QB - Need to start panel
Rest almost done
Breathing too much fiberglass dust
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| From: | "DLM" <dlm34077(at)q.com> |
A friend who sometimes flies my 10 got a new license plate.
_____
From: Tom Hodgdon [mailto:thodgdon(at)AMSAFE.com]
Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2011 1:47 PM
Subject: Fly RV-10
My new license plate came today.
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| From: | "Chris Hukill" <cjhukill(at)cox.net> |
| Subject: | antenna locations |
The MB and ADF may not be obsolete as soon as GPS if Obama's sponsor
Lightsquare gets their way!
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| Subject: | Re: G3X Component Locations |
| From: | "bill.peyton" <peyton.b(at)sbcglobal.net> |
I have located the GMU using the bracket Stein provides, on the 2nd bulkhead back
from the baggage, the one where the static port is close to. This puts it
far enough away from the battery and the elev trim servo. There are lots flying
this way with no issues. My GSU is mounted on a stiff tray I fabricated from
.062 that spans the instrument panel to the subpanel on the right as close
to the right side as possible. It is extremely stiff at that location. The pitot
static will go through the sub-panel using 90 deg. elbows. I would not
mount it on the tunnel or close to the firewall due to possible heat issues and
acess.
Bill
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| Subject: | Re: G3X Component Locations |
| From: | "bill.peyton" <peyton.b(at)sbcglobal.net> |
Another photo showing the locations of the remaining items
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Bill Peyton
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| Subject: | Re: antenna locations |
| From: | Kelly McMullen <apilot2(at)gmail.com> |
If the FCC continues its boneheaded ways, they will have to turn Loran
back on. However, Lightsquared's approvals date back before the
current administration. The FCC is allegedly an independent
commission, so politics role is so far speculative, and not worthy of
discussion here. If one discusses politics, all building stops, and
there will be no more RV grins..........so go bang some rivets and
shed any frustrations with making the next most perfect airplane. ;-)
On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 6:46 AM, Chris Hukill wrote:
> The MB and ADF may not be obsolete as soon as GPS if Obamas sponsor
> Lightsquare gets their way!
>
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| Subject: | Re: G3X Component Locations |
| From: | "TBL" <andy(at)klamflex.com> |
Hi Bill,
Would you mind giving me your reasons for deciding on a 3 screen system?
And Lawrence
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2nd time offender
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| Subject: | Re: G3X Component Locations |
| From: | "nukeflyboy" <flymoore(at)charter.net> |
Stein and Bill - thanks for the info and photos. I'll put the magnetometer in
the aft fuselage area as Stein suggests. It helps to know that it works well
there. I like Bill's AHRS mounting and will do something similar.
I am also installing a 3 screen system. My reasons are to have two in front of
the pilot (one to aviate, one to navigate/WX/ etc.) and one in front of the co-pilot
so it can be flown from the right seat.
An unrelated factor was that the price reduction on the G3X allowed me to get 3
screens for a lot less $ than a 2 screen GRT or AFS.
--------
Dave Moore
RV-6 flying
RV-10 QB - Need to start panel
Rest almost done
Breathing too much fiberglass dust
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| Subject: | Re: G3X Component Locations |
| From: | "nukeflyboy" <flymoore(at)charter.net> |
Jim,
This is a little off topic so I will give a couple quick answers and then give
a more detailed response in a new thread later.
Yes - it is a complete system including engine monitor and sensors. It has synthetic
vision, HWITS display, geo-referenced charts, approach plates, and airport
diagrams. With the GX Pilot it can do a complete coupled approach. The functionality
is about the same (as far as I can tell) as the GRT and AFS high
end systems except it has built in geo-referenced plates and airport diagrams
which the others do not. The screens are a bit smaller but fit very nicely on
a standard 10 panel.
I had the same question about subscriptions. I have been told that for the G3X,
the Jepp subscription that you need for the GTN-650/750 will work to update
the G3X map at no extra charge.
Garmin now allows builders to make their own harnesses.
As I recall, the 3 screen G3X came in about $2500 less than the GRT/AFS equivalents.
--------
Dave Moore
RV-6 flying
RV-10 QB - Need to start panel
Rest almost done
Breathing too much fiberglass dust
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| From: | John Gonzalez <indigoonlatigo(at)msn.com> |
| Subject: | nose wheel tow bar recommendations |
Can anyone give me a brand and location to purchase a tow bar for the 10 wh
ich works well with the nose faring?
Thanks
John
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| From: | "Eric_Kallio" <scout019(at)msn.com> |
When flying through some bumps the other day I lost my fuel quantity indications
on the left tank. Didn't actually lose them, the indicated quantity went from
24 gallons to -12. After de-fuel it seems the float is still attached and moving
free, but the resistance from the sending wire to ground is a consistent
176 ohms. It seems to me that there is a failure of the sending unit. Before I
pull this apart and order a replacement has anyone seen this before, or have
a step that I may have missed to troubleshoot the problem.
Eric Kallio
N518RV... Flying
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| Subject: | Re: nose wheel tow bar recommendations |
| From: | Michael Kraus <n223rv(at)wolflakeairport.net> |
Search for Bogart tow bars, they make one specifically for the RV-10 and it w
orks great for me.
http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/pspages/bogibars2.php
-Mike Kraus
RV-10 flying
Sent from my iPhone
On Sep 26, 2011, at 3:32 PM, John Gonzalez wrote:
> Can anyone give me a brand and location to purchase a tow bar for the 10 w
hich works well with the nose faring?
>
> Thanks
>
> John
>
>
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| From: | Carl Froehlich <carl.froehlich(at)verizon.net> |
First check the ground connection. If you do not run a separate ground wire to
a ring connector under one of the screw heads, you may want to.
If the ground is good, you may have a bad sender. Considering you have some reading
other than short or open I'd guess it is hung up on something. Not sure
how you can know that it moving freely with the tank on the plane. Either way
you need to pull the unit.
One other point, if you measured the sending unit resistance to ground in circuit
(sending wire still attached to whatever it goes to), you may have a false
reading. Remove the sending wire from the sender and measure again.
Carl
On Sep 26, 2011, at 4:12 PM, "Eric_Kallio" wrote:
>
> When flying through some bumps the other day I lost my fuel quantity indications
on the left tank. Didn't actually lose them, the indicated quantity went from
24 gallons to -12. After de-fuel it seems the float is still attached and
moving free, but the resistance from the sending wire to ground is a consistent
176 ohms. It seems to me that there is a failure of the sending unit. Before
I pull this apart and order a replacement has anyone seen this before, or have
a step that I may have missed to troubleshoot the problem.
>
> Eric Kallio
> N518RV... Flying
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=353267#353267
>
>
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>
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>
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| From: | David <dmaib(at)mac.com> |
I will second the suggestion to make darn sure it is well grounded. I
replaced my right hand sender last year unnecessarily. I thought I
had a good ground, but I did not. Oh well, now I have a spare sender
if the RH ever really fails.
David Maib
40559
Flying
On Sep 26, 2011, at 4:12 PM, Eric_Kallio wrote:
>
> When flying through some bumps the other day I lost my fuel
> quantity indications on the left tank. Didn't actually lose them,
> the indicated quantity went from 24 gallons to -12. After de-fuel
> it seems the float is still attached and moving free, but the
> resistance from the sending wire to ground is a consistent 176
> ohms. It seems to me that there is a failure of the sending unit.
> Before I pull this apart and order a replacement has anyone seen
> this before, or have a step that I may have missed to troubleshoot
> the problem.
>
> Eric Kallio
> N518RV... Flying
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=353267#353267
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Dynon roll servo settings? |
| From: | Rob Kochman <rv10rob(at)gmail.com> |
Thanks, guys... I'm using the legacy (D100) system. I did do all the
calibration steps for the compass. My magnetometer is mounted on a shelf
aft of the baggage bulkhead.
http://kochman.net/N819K/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/img_0853.jpg
Though I used nonferrous mounting hardware, the real seat belt cables pass a
few inches by. Do you think that would be a problem? My understading is
that this was a common mounting location.
Mike, it's weird we're having different problems. My pitch has been rock
solid from day 1.
-Rob
On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 4:40 PM, Pascal wrote:
> Rob;
> I saw this in the manual. You may have already done this.
> Compass Calibration Requirement:
> The SkyView autopilot requires an accurate magnetic heading to operate
> efficiently and comfortably in heading mode and the radio-based VOR/NAV
> mode. Therefore it is critical that the ADAHRS be installed correctly,
> calibrated, and operating well in all attitudes.
>
> I know you mentioned NAV worked so this may not be an issue, but hopefully
> it may help..
>
>
> *From:* Rob Kochman
> *Sent:* Friday, September 23, 2011 2:13 PM
> *To:* rv10-list
> *Subject:* RV10-List: Dynon roll servo settings?
>
> Anyone have a good set of Dynon roll servo settings for the RV-10? I
> feel like I've tried everything, and still am not happy with the result.
> Nav mode is rock solid, but heading mode wanders all over the place.
>
> Thanks...
>
> -Rob
>
> --
> Rob Kochman
> RV-10 Flying since March 2011
> Woodinville, WA
> http://kochman.net/N819K
>
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RV-10 Flying since March 2011
Woodinville, WA
http://kochman.net/N819K
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| Subject: | FW: [LML] Chelton..and more... |
| From: | "John Cox" <johnwcox(at)pacificnw.com> |
Tim and other Chelton aficionados'. Here is a Conversion to Garmin
instrumentation which might create a benefit to someone building an
RV-10 and holding interest in Chelton equipment in their panel.
Contact Ronald at "ronald(at)sdc.com"
John 40600
-----Original Message-----
From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml(at)lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of
Ronald STEVENS
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 3:23 AM
Subject: [LML] Chelton......and more...
Hello guys
Well you perhaps did see the picture of my new panel, and it really
looks good, but after flying with it hard IFR I have to admit that my
currency on the Garmins is better than this from the Cheltons. Also to
new Garmin GTN750 does not talk to the Chelton (in other words, you can
put a flight plan in both systems and can switch between the 2 systems
for your autopilot).
So I am thinking of selling my Chelton (3 screen system, including the
WSI module) and getting either the Garmin G500 or a couple of Garmin G3X
screens.
Now I asked an avionics shop what my chelton would cost, and he told me
that this is at least 60k. But I know I will not get 60k back for it
right now, but if someone is interested than make me an offer I cannot
refuse and I will get the Chelton out of my plane and start working on
my panel again lol
== Ronald >65 hours and counting
ps Stuff I really like about the chelton is the VFR approach, also the
HITS is pretty good, the engine monitor is very clean and clear.
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http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html
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| From: | Bill Watson <Mauledriver(at)nc.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: nose wheel tow bar recommendations |
Yep, the Bogert bar.
One thing I'm looking for now is a rudder lock. Someone has pics of a
"Bogert-like tow bar" doubling as rudder lock that looks like it might
be great. However, I tried to see if the actual Bogie bar can be made
to fit - and not luck.
Can someone elaborate on the tow bar as rudder lock solution? Was it a
Bogie bar? What brand was it.
Bill "learning lean to climb and LOP - very good stuff" Watson
On 9/26/2011 3:32 PM, John Gonzalez wrote:
> Can anyone give me a brand and location to purchase a tow bar for the
> 10 which works well with the nose faring?
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Rene Felker" <rene(at)felker.com> |
| Subject: | nose wheel tow bar recommendations |
I had two rudder lock failures...bummer. My third one is just PVC
Looks like this..
| |
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Rene' Felker
N423CF
801-721-6080
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Watson
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 1:23 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: nose wheel tow bar recommendations
Yep, the Bogert bar.
One thing I'm looking for now is a rudder lock. Someone has pics of a
"Bogert-like tow bar" doubling as rudder lock that looks like it might be
great. However, I tried to see if the actual Bogie bar can be made to fit -
and not luck.
Can someone elaborate on the tow bar as rudder lock solution? Was it a
Bogie bar? What brand was it.
Bill "learning lean to climb and LOP - very good stuff" Watson
On 9/26/2011 3:32 PM, John Gonzalez wrote:
Can anyone give me a brand and location to purchase a tow bar for the 10
which works well with the nose faring?
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Gary Specketer" <speckter(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | Re: nose wheel tow bar recommendations |
I used the Bogert tow bar and added a couple of carriage bolts on the
bottom end to fit in the holes in the rudder peddles. I slide the seat
forward onto the tow bar top T and tie the seat belt around the stick
and the tow bar for a secure set up. Unfortunately I do not have
pictures, but the key is to not allow the tow bar to fall off of the
rudder peddles and the large head of the carriage bolts keeps it in
place and also puts mild pressure on the brakes to hold the plane steady
in a blow. It is simple, you always have it with you and there is no
extra weight to carry around.
Gary Specketer
From: Bill Watson
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 3:22 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: nose wheel tow bar recommendations
Yep, the Bogert bar.
One thing I'm looking for now is a rudder lock. Someone has pics of a
"Bogert-like tow bar" doubling as rudder lock that looks like it might
be great. However, I tried to see if the actual Bogie bar can be made
to fit - and not luck.
Can someone elaborate on the tow bar as rudder lock solution? Was it a
Bogie bar? What brand was it.
Bill "learning lean to climb and LOP - very good stuff" Watson
On 9/26/2011 3:32 PM, John Gonzalez wrote:
Can anyone give me a brand and location to purchase a tow bar for the
10 which works well with the nose faring?
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Albert Gardner" <ibspud(at)roadrunner.com> |
The cheap but effective way is to tie the stick back with the seat belts and
then use a piece of cord to hold the rudder.
Albert Gardner
N991RV
Yuma, AZ
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Watson
One thing I'm looking for now is a rudder lock. Someone has pics of a
"Bogert-like tow bar" doubling as rudder lock that looks like it might be
great. However, I tried to see if the actual Bogie bar can be made to fit -
and not luck.
Can someone elaborate on the tow bar as rudder lock solution? Was it a
Bogie bar? What brand was it.
Bill "learning lean to climb and LOP - very good stuff" Watson
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | David <dmaib(at)mac.com> |
My solution is the same as Alberts. I also install an aileron lock on
one or both of the ailerons, and use the interior control lock that
Alex DeDominices used to sell on his ATP Products site. I am not sure
where you get them now. It is a rod with a spring that fits against
the pedals and the seat base, and has a velcro strap to hold the
stick. Sorry I don't have a link to it any more. It is marginal by
itself, but with the other systems I am using, I seem to have a
pretty good system for locking the controls.
David Maib
40559
Flying
On Sep 27, 2011, at 8:46 PM, Albert Gardner wrote:
> The cheap but effective way is to tie the stick back with the seat
> belts and then use a piece of cord to hold the rudder.
>
> Albert Gardner
>
> N991RV
>
> Yuma, AZ
>
>
> From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-
> server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Watson
> One thing I'm looking for now is a rudder lock. Someone has pics
> of a "Bogert-like tow bar" doubling as rudder lock that looks like
> it might be great. However, I tried to see if the actual Bogie bar
> can be made to fit - and not luck.
> Can someone elaborate on the tow bar as rudder lock solution? Was
> it a Bogie bar? What brand was it.
> Bill "learning lean to climb and LOP - very good stuff" Watson
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Robin Marks <robin(at)PaintTheWeb.com> |
I still like my system. Seatbelt on the stick and a simple rudder lock that
is ultra small & weighs nearly nothing.
(Red painted one is from my 8A)
Robin
*From:* owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:
owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *David
*Sent:* Tuesday, September 27, 2011 6:48 PM
*To:* rv10-list(at)matronics.com
*Subject:* Re: RV10-List: Rudder Lock
My solution is the same as Alberts. I also install an aileron
lock<http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/pspages/padlock.php> on
one or both of the ailerons, and use the interior control lock that Alex
DeDominices used to sell on his ATP Products site. I am not sure where you
get them now. It is a rod with a spring that fits against the pedals and the
seat base, and has a velcro strap to hold the stick. Sorry I don't have a
link to it any more. It is marginal by itself, but with the other systems I
am using, I seem to have a pretty good system for locking the controls.
David Maib
40559
Flying
On Sep 27, 2011, at 8:46 PM, Albert Gardner wrote:
The cheap but effective way is to tie the stick back with the seat belts and
then use a piece of cord to hold the rudder.
Albert Gardner
N991RV
Yuma, AZ
*From:* owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [
mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com]
*On Behalf Of *Bill Watson
One thing I'm looking for now is a rudder lock. Someone has pics of a
"Bogert-like tow bar" doubling as rudder lock that looks like it might be
great. However, I tried to see if the actual Bogie bar can be made to fit -
and not luck.
Can someone elaborate on the tow bar as rudder lock solution? Was it a
Bogie bar? What brand was it.
Bill "learning lean to climb and LOP - very good stuff" Watson
* *
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Dave Saylor <dave.saylor.aircrafters(at)gmail.com> |
| Subject: | Re: nose wheel tow bar recommendations |
Bill,
I had a couple tabs welded onto my Bogie Bar so they fit between the rudder
pedal and the tube. That locks the bar in place. Just had to make sure the
tabs are positioned so they don't interfere with the nose fairing. Pictures
are in the archive.
Then I added a bungee on one of the pivot bolts. The stick rests in the V
of the lever handle, and the bungee wraps around the stick to secure the
ailerons.
Then clamp the whole thing down with the seat belt. See pics in the
archives from 10 June 2010.
Dave Saylor
AirCrafters
140 Aviation Way
Watsonville, CA 95076
831-722-9141 Shop
831-750-0284 Cell
On Tue, Sep 27, 2011 at 12:22 PM, Bill Watson wrote:
> Yep, the Bogert bar.
>
> One thing I'm looking for now is a rudder lock. Someone has pics of a
> "Bogert-like tow bar" doubling as rudder lock that looks like it might be
> great. However, I tried to see if the actual Bogie bar can be made to fit -
> and not luck.
>
> Can someone elaborate on the tow bar as rudder lock solution? Was it a
> Bogie bar? What brand was it.
>
> Bill "learning lean to climb and LOP - very good stuff" Watson
>
>
> On 9/26/2011 3:32 PM, John Gonzalez wrote:
>
> Can anyone give me a brand and location to purchase a tow bar for the 10
> which works well with the nose faring?
>
>
> *
>
>
> =
> *
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "Albert Gardner" <ibspud(at)roadrunner.com> |
Well, yours looks a lot more elegant but they always feel sorry for me and
give me a discount on fuel.
Albert
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin Marks
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 7:41 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Rudder Lock
I still like my system. Seatbelt on the stick and a simple rudder lock that
is ultra small & weighs nearly nothing.
(Red painted one is from my 8A)
Robin
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of David
Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 6:48 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Rudder Lock
My solution is the same as Alberts. I also install an aileron lock
<http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/pspages/padlock.php> on one or both
of the ailerons, and use the interior control lock that Alex DeDominices
used to sell on his ATP Products site. I am not sure where you get them now.
It is a rod with a spring that fits against the pedals and the seat base,
and has a velcro strap to hold the stick. Sorry I don't have a link to it
any more. It is marginal by itself, but with the other systems I am using, I
seem to have a pretty good system for locking the controls.
David Maib
40559
Flying
On Sep 27, 2011, at 8:46 PM, Albert Gardner wrote:
The cheap but effective way is to tie the stick back with the seat belts and
then use a piece of cord to hold the rudder.
Albert Gardner
N991RV
Yuma, AZ
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Watson
One thing I'm looking for now is a rudder lock. Someone has pics of a
"Bogert-like tow bar" doubling as rudder lock that looks like it might be
great. However, I tried to see if the actual Bogie bar can be made to fit -
and not luck.
Can someone elaborate on the tow bar as rudder lock solution? Was it a
Bogie bar? What brand was it.
Bill "learning lean to climb and LOP - very good stuff" Watson
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Jesse Saint <jesse(at)saintaviation.com> |
I have used the Bogie Bar with tubes welded on to extend the arms at the
end where it grabs the nose wheel. Those tubes fit in the holes on the
rudder pedals and then the handle of the bar goes against the seat back
with a seat belt holding it down. Then you use the other seatbelt to
hold the stick back if you want to lock elevator and ailerons. I have
looked at most of the different things that people have used and have
tested some of them. There is nothing that I think comes close to as
strong as this, especially in heavy winds. I know one plane that had to
replace the rudder because he used the spring-loaded gust lock that
holds the pedals. It broke in heavy wind and the rudder was damaged
beyond repair.
Another benefit is that you can not possibly get in the plane and take
off without removing it, because it is in the front seat. It also weighs
almost nothing in addition to your tow bar, assuming that you are taking
your tow bar with you when you travel.
Jesse Saint
Saint Aviation, Inc.
jesse(at)saintaviation.com
C: 352-427-0285
F: 815-377-3694
On Sep 28, 2011, at 12:19 AM, Albert Gardner wrote:
> Well, yours looks a lot more elegant but they always feel sorry for me
and give me a discount on fuel.
> Albert
>
> From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Robin Marks
> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 7:41 PM
> To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV10-List: Rudder Lock
>
> I still like my system. Seatbelt on the stick and a simple rudder lock
that is ultra small & weighs nearly nothing.
> (Red painted one is from my 8A)
> Robin
>
> From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of David
> Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2011 6:48 PM
> To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: Re: RV10-List: Rudder Lock
>
> My solution is the same as Alberts. I also install an aileron lock on
one or both of the ailerons, and use the interior control lock that Alex
DeDominices used to sell on his ATP Products site. I am not sure where
you get them now. It is a rod with a spring that fits against the pedals
and the seat base, and has a velcro strap to hold the stick. Sorry I
don't have a link to it any more. It is marginal by itself, but with the
other systems I am using, I seem to have a pretty good system for
locking the controls.
>
> David Maib
> 40559
> Flying
>
> On Sep 27, 2011, at 8:46 PM, Albert Gardner wrote:
>
>
> The cheap but effective way is to tie the stick back with the seat
belts and then use a piece of cord to hold the rudder.
> Albert Gardner
> N991RV
> Yuma, AZ
>
> From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Watson
> One thing I'm looking for now is a rudder lock. Someone has pics of a
"Bogert-like tow bar" doubling as rudder lock that looks like it might
be great. However, I tried to see if the actual Bogie bar can be made
to fit - and not luck.
> Can someone elaborate on the tow bar as rudder lock solution? Was it
a Bogie bar? What brand was it.
> Bill "learning lean to climb and LOP - very good stuff" Watson
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | RV-10 down in Marieeta, OH |
| From: | "rleffler" <rv(at)thelefflers.com> |
I just saw this news posting:
http://www.10tv.com/content/stories/2011/09/28/marietta-plane-crash-2-with-injuries.html
Two people were treated at The Ohio State University Medical Center on Wednesday
morning after their homemade plane crashed.
The plane crashed shortly after 7 p.m. on Tuesday about 200 yards from state Route
7, 10TV's Shayla Reaves reported.
Police said that the pilot was Nicholas Austin, 24, of Frederiskburg, Texas and
the co-pilot was Richard Gray, 54, of Vincent, Ohio.
Officials said their RV-10 aircraft had just taken off from the Wood County Airport
in West Virginia for a test flight when it crashed.
The two men were being treated for serious injuries.
--------
Bob Leffler
N410BL - FWF
RV-10 #40684
http://mykitlog.com/rleffler
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=353406#353406
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| From: | "jayb" <jaybrinkmeyer(at)yahoo.com> |
I've been meaning to post a couple photos of my doors. They turned out pretty nice...
Abby at Flightline Interiors provided the fabric and trim strips.
Cheers,
Jay
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| From: | Bill Watson <Mauledriver(at)nc.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: nose wheel tow bar recommendations |
Thanks Dave,
I actually saw that and tried to figure out how the bar was made to fit
in there. Couldn't quite do it and assumed it was a non-Bogie Bar.
I'll have to take a closer look and try again. I understand the tab
thing. Had some trouble with fitting my stick tops thru the V... more
evaluation required.
Bill "loving the flying part" Watson
On 9/27/2011 11:55 PM, Dave Saylor wrote:
> Bill,
>
> I had a couple tabs welded onto my Bogie Bar so they fit between the
> rudder pedal and the tube. That locks the bar in place. Just had to
> make sure the tabs are positioned so they don't interfere with the
> nose fairing. Pictures are in the archive.
>
> Then I added a bungee on one of the pivot bolts. The stick rests in
> the V of the lever handle, and the bungee wraps around the stick to
> secure the ailerons.
>
> Then clamp the whole thing down with the seat belt. See pics in the
> archives from 10 June 2010.
>
> Dave Saylor
> AirCrafters
> 140 Aviation Way
> Watsonville, CA 95076
> 831-722-9141 Shop
> 831-750-0284 Cell
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "DLM" <dlm34077(at)q.com> |
| Subject: | RV-10 down in Marieeta, OH |
The FAA accident stats indicate the number was 499RV and serial 40373.
Registration shows date of 8/15/2011; and Ronald Owen of Sebring FL as
manufacturer which does not match either person or location on board. Will
be interesting to see who built it, when phase I was completed and what
engine it had in as it is not specified in the FAA online records.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of rleffler
Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 5:28 AM
Subject: RV10-List: RV-10 down in Marieeta, OH
I just saw this news posting:
http://www.10tv.com/content/stories/2011/09/28/marietta-plane-crash-2-with-i
njuries.html
Two people were treated at The Ohio State University Medical Center on
Wednesday morning after their homemade plane crashed.
The plane crashed shortly after 7 p.m. on Tuesday about 200 yards from state
Route 7, 10TV's Shayla Reaves reported.
Police said that the pilot was Nicholas Austin, 24, of Frederiskburg, Texas
and the co-pilot was Richard Gray, 54, of Vincent, Ohio.
Officials said their RV-10 aircraft had just taken off from the Wood County
Airport in West Virginia for a test flight when it crashed.
The two men were being treated for serious injuries.
--------
Bob Leffler
N410BL - FWF
RV-10 #40684
http://mykitlog.com/rleffler
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=353406#353406
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| From: | Bill Watson <Mauledriver(at)nc.rr.com> |
Nicely done Jay!
I'm curious about the decision to stay clear of the door edge. In my
case, after carefully fitting the doors without the trim, adding the
trim changed the fit just enough to put everything out of kilter. I'm
still trying to straighten it all out.
Good idea to stay clear but it must complicate the task of gluing it all
down and maintaining an even outer margin.
Is this a new Flightline option?
BTW, I'm very happy with my Flightline interior. The fit was fantastic
and it continues to evolve with enhancements. Though I did zero sound
insulation, the amount of sound reduction from the carpet and fabric is
amazing. And my rear tail panel is still uncovered... may just paint
it. Very satisfied!
Bill
On 9/28/2011 10:18 AM, jayb wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "jayb"
>
> I've been meaning to post a couple photos of my doors. They turned out pretty
nice... Abby at Flightline Interiors provided the fabric and trim strips.
>
> Cheers,
> Jay
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: RV-10 down in Marieeta, OH |
| From: | John Cox <rv10pro(at)gmail.com> |
Link did not work but Thanks.
John 40600
On Sep 28, 2011 5:34 AM, "rleffler" wrote:
>
> I just saw this news posting:
>
>
http://www.10tv.com/content/stories/2011/09/28/marietta-plane-crash-2-with-injuries.html
>
> Two people were treated at The Ohio State University Medical Center on
Wednesday morning after their homemade plane crashed.
>
> The plane crashed shortly after 7 p.m. on Tuesday about 200 yards from
state Route 7, 10TV's Shayla Reaves reported.
>
> Police said that the pilot was Nicholas Austin, 24, of Frederiskburg,
Texas and the co-pilot was Richard Gray, 54, of Vincent, Ohio.
>
> Officials said their RV-10 aircraft had just taken off from the Wood
County Airport in West Virginia for a test flight when it crashed.
>
> The two men were being treated for serious injuries.
>
> --------
> Bob Leffler
> N410BL - FWF
> RV-10 #40684
> http://mykitlog.com/rleffler
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=353406#353406
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | "jayb" <jaybrinkmeyer(at)yahoo.com> |
One additional photo is attached.
Nope. Not a standard Flightline option.
The edge was actually pretty easy. From the photo you can see where I drew a line
around the inside edge of the closed door. Then glued the fabric close the
the edge. Finally, finished up with a trim strip. The edge trim provided the special
sauce as it dressed up the ragged cut line. If you go that route, the trim
is the same as for the windows... except there's no hard inner plastic piece.
You should also note that the photo shows half vinyl, half fabric. That was a non-starter
as the vinyl kept popping out of the glue no matter what I did. Very
frustrating. In finally just cut it out and added an extra piece of fabric and
hid the edge with another trim strip.
Making the AL access panels was a custom job by me after a failed attempt at making
them out of glass. The AL ones look better by far.
Abby was helpful and patient while I worked my way through door design iterations
and questions. She also made several custom access covers to match.
Cheers,
Jay
Mauledriver(at)nc.rr.com wrote:
> Nicely done Jay!
>
> I'm curious about the decision to stay clear of the door edge. In my
> case, after carefully fitting the doors without the trim, adding the
> trim changed the fit just enough to put everything out of kilter. I'm
> still trying to straighten it all out.
>
> Good idea to stay clear but it must complicate the task of gluing it all
> down and maintaining an even outer margin.
>
> Is this a new Flightline option?
>
> BTW, I'm very happy with my Flightline interior. The fit was fantastic
> and it continues to evolve with enhancements. Though I did zero sound
> insulation, the amount of sound reduction from the carpet and fabric is
> amazing. And my rear tail panel is still uncovered... may just paint
> it. Very satisfied!
>
> Bill
>
> On 9/28/2011 10:18 AM, jayb wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > I've been meaning to post a couple photos of my doors. They turned out pretty
nice... Abby at Flightline Interiors provided the fabric and trim strips.
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Jay
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
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| Subject: | Re: RV-10 down in Marieeta, OH |
| From: | Ron Walker <n520tx(at)gmail.com> |
> Sounds like Rick Gray runs a builder assist center and was flying with
> a customer prior to delivery of a new plane.
Yes - he's built plenty of RV's, plenty of them award winners. His web
site-> http://rv6rick.tripod.com/ohiovalleyrvators/id22.html
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: RV-10 down in Marieeta, OH |
| From: | Phillip Perry <philperry9(at)gmail.com> |
His F1 was profiled in an EAA video a while back. Here's the link.
http://bcove.me/bphx4b0k
On Wed, Sep 28, 2011 at 1:09 PM, Ron Walker wrote:
>
> > Sounds like Rick Gray runs a builder assist center and was flying with
> > a customer prior to delivery of a new plane.
>
> Yes - he's built plenty of RV's, plenty of them award winners. His web
> site-> http://rv6rick.tripod.com/ohiovalleyrvators/id22.html
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: G3X Component Locations |
| From: | "bill.peyton" <peyton.b(at)sbcglobal.net> |
The reason I went with the 3 screen system is that both my wife and I are pilots,
we use our current plane for lot's of long cross country flights. We intend
to do the same with the -10. It seems like the person on the right always ends
up flying for a while on long legs, so the 3rd display will take care of that.
Also, our plan is to usually have the non-flying pilot take care of the
radios, talking to center, looking at weather and navigating. The third display
will make this a lot easier. The final reason is that my father, and building
partner, just turned 87. He continues to fly and pass his medical and BFR
every year. The only issue is insurance. We have been told we will not be able
to get any for him without me or an instructor in the right seat. Those are
the reasons for my choice of a 3 display system.
While the size of the displays are not as large as the AFS or Dynon, they fit very
nicely in the panel. I attached my cad image with JPG files overlaid on the
panel.
Bill
--------
Bill Peyton
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| From: | "Gary Specketer" <speckter(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | Re: G3X Component Locations |
Good for your Dad, we should all be so lucky to be flying into our late
80's.
Gary Specketer
--------------------------------------------------
From: "bill.peyton" <peyton.b(at)sbcglobal.net>
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 9:29 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: G3X Component Locations
>
> The reason I went with the 3 screen system is that both my wife and I are
> pilots, we use our current plane for lot's of long cross country flights.
> We intend to do the same with the -10. It seems like the person on the
> right always ends up flying for a while on long legs, so the 3rd display
> will take care of that. Also, our plan is to usually have the non-flying
> pilot take care of the radios, talking to center, looking at weather and
> navigating. The third display will make this a lot easier. The final
> reason is that my father, and building partner, just turned 87. He
> continues to fly and pass his medical and BFR every year. The only issue
> is insurance. We have been told we will not be able to get any for him
> without me or an instructor in the right seat. Those are the reasons for
> my choice of a 3 display system.
> While the size of the displays are not as large as the AFS or Dynon, they
> fit very nicely in the panel. I attached my cad image with JPG files
> overlaid on the panel.
> Bill
>
> --------
> Bill Peyton
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=353512#353512
>
>
> Attachments:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/complete_panel_699.bmp
>
>
>
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| From: | "Pascal" <rv10flyer(at)verizon.net> |
| Subject: | user fee petition |
I received a e-mail from Fuller, at AOPA asking that I complete a
Petitiion. I know the Socal RV list has also been creating an account
and signing this. I would encourage we continue to hound our
representatives in Congress and Senate. Sadly I am in California,
however my congressman did respond and said he would fight to not allow
user fees to the aviation community.
If no one has seen this (US based)
http://www.aopa.org/advocacy/articles/2011/110926-grass-roots-petition-la
unched-to-kill-user-fee-threat.html?WT.mc_id=ebrief
We don=99t want to be where the rest of the world is with user
fees. If you care write the representative, as we have done before and
let them know your feelings. Sign the petition too.
________________________________________________________________________________
| From: | Robin Marks <Robin(at)PaintTheWeb.com> |
| Subject: | Re: G3X Component Locations |
I agree completely with Bill on his points. One thing not mentioned is the
cost of these systems is not in the screens so adding a third screen is
~$3,500.
All that being said there are a few gotchya's on the G3X and the 430/530.
The 430 takes over responsibility when on so an flight plan best entered
into the G3X is useless when the 430 is on. One must place a flight plan
in the 430 to drive the AP. I have no idea what the situation is with the
650/750. Regardless I understand that Garmin is planning to change this at
some point. On another note I personally prefer the D100 to the D10 as a
backup unit if space permits.
Just getting use to my dual screen G3x system in the 8A.
Robin
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of bill.peyton
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 6:30 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: G3X Component Locations
The reason I went with the 3 screen system is that both my wife and I are
pilots, we use our current plane for lot's of long cross country flights.
We intend to do the same with the -10. It seems like the person on the
right always ends up flying for a while on long legs, so the 3rd display
will take care of that. Also, our plan is to usually have the non-flying
pilot take care of the radios, talking to center, looking at weather and
navigating. The third display will make this a lot easier. The final
reason is that my father, and building partner, just turned 87. He
continues to fly and pass his medical and BFR every year. The only issue
is insurance. We have been told we will not be able to get any for him
without me or an instructor in the right seat. Those are the reasons for
my choice of a 3 display system.
While the size of the displays are not as large as the AFS or Dynon, they
fit very nicely in the panel. I attached my cad image with JPG files
overlaid on the panel.
Bill
--------
Bill Peyton
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=353512#353512
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| From: | "Steve Roberts" <swrpilot(at)bellsouth.net> |
| Subject: | Morristown, TN Fly-in |
If you are looking for a $100 hamburger on Saturday, our EAA chapter is
holding a fly-in at KMOR, Morristown, TN on Saturday, October 1st from 9 AM
to 3 PM. Come see the new Evelyn Johnson Terminal and FBO, one of the
nicest you will see for an airport without airline service. There will be
food vendor(s) (burgers, etc.) on site. Forecast is sunny and cool and the
mountains are starting to show some color. Come and show off your RV-10!
Steve Roberts
RV-10 Tail Kit
N2700W 1966 Mooney M20E 'Ms. Obsession' KMOR Morristown, TN
________________________________________________________________________________
| Subject: | Re: G3X Component Locations |
| From: | Seano <sean(at)braunandco.com> |
Robin,
The new update fixes this. I flew mine out today (formation with Scott). I can
enter Flt plan on either unit and you can hit internal on the Efis and it uses
it's own gps. It's nice to have the g3x on gps and the 430w on loc.
Sent from my iPhone
On Sep 29, 2011, at 13:07, Robin Marks wrote:
>
> I agree completely with Bill on his points. One thing not mentioned is the
> cost of these systems is not in the screens so adding a third screen is
> ~$3,500.
> All that being said there are a few gotchya's on the G3X and the 430/530.
> The 430 takes over responsibility when on so an flight plan best entered
> into the G3X is useless when the 430 is on. One must place a flight plan
> in the 430 to drive the AP. I have no idea what the situation is with the
> 650/750. Regardless I understand that Garmin is planning to change this at
> some point. On another note I personally prefer the D100 to the D10 as a
> backup unit if space permits.
> Just getting use to my dual screen G3x system in the 8A.
>
> Robin
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of bill.peyton
> Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 6:30 AM
> To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Re: G3X Component Locations
>
>
> The reason I went with the 3 screen system is that both my wife and I are
> pilots, we use our current plane for lot's of long cross country flights.
> We intend to do the same with the -10. It seems like the person on the
> right always ends up flying for a while on long legs, so the 3rd display
> will take care of that. Also, our plan is to usually have the non-flying
> pilot take care of the radios, talking to center, looking at weather and
> navigating. The third display will make this a lot easier. The final
> reason is that my father, and building partner, just turned 87. He
> continues to fly and pass his medical and BFR every year. The only issue
> is insurance. We have been told we will not be able to get any for him
> without me or an instructor in the right seat. Those are the reasons for
> my choice of a 3 display system.
> While the size of the displays are not as large as the AFS or Dynon, they
> fit very nicely in the panel. I attached my cad image with JPG files
> overlaid on the panel.
> Bill
>
> --------
> Bill Peyton
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=353512#353512
>
>
>
>
> Attachments:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com//files/complete_panel_699.bmp
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| From: | "Carl Froehlich" <carl.froehlich(at)verizon.net> |
| Subject: | Morristown, TN Fly-in |
Any break on the high $6.56/gal gas price for the fly in?
Carl
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve Roberts
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 4:28 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Morristown, TN Fly-in
If you are looking for a $100 hamburger on Saturday, our EAA chapter is
holding a fly-in at KMOR, Morristown, TN on Saturday, October 1st from 9 AM
to 3 PM. Come see the new Evelyn Johnson Terminal and FBO, one of the
nicest you will see for an airport without airline service. There will be
food vendor(s) (burgers, etc.) on site. Forecast is sunny and cool and the
mountains are starting to show some color. Come and show off your RV-10!
Steve Roberts
RV-10 Tail Kit
N2700W 1966 Mooney M20E 'Ms. Obsession' KMOR Morristown, TN
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| Subject: | Re: Morristown, TN Fly-in |
| From: | Miller John <gengrumpy(at)aol.com> |
Stop by KTHA.
Our self serv price is about $5.15 or so.
On Sep 29, 2011, at 7:48 PM, Carl Froehlich wrote:
>
> Any break on the high $6.56/gal gas price for the fly in?
>
> Carl
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Steve Roberts
> Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 4:28 PM
> To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Morristown, TN Fly-in
>
>
> If you are looking for a $100 hamburger on Saturday, our EAA chapter is
> holding a fly-in at KMOR, Morristown, TN on Saturday, October 1st from 9 AM
> to 3 PM. Come see the new Evelyn Johnson Terminal and FBO, one of the
> nicest you will see for an airport without airline service. There will be
> food vendor(s) (burgers, etc.) on site. Forecast is sunny and cool and the
> mountains are starting to show some color. Come and show off your RV-10!
>
> Steve Roberts
> RV-10 Tail Kit
> N2700W 1966 Mooney M20E 'Ms. Obsession' KMOR Morristown, TN
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: G3X Component Locations |
| From: | "bill.peyton" <peyton.b(at)sbcglobal.net> |
Robin,
When you find out how to update it let me know! That drawback was a great one
to fix! Now hopefully ADS-b traffic and weather??
Bill
--------
Bill Peyton
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http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=353580#353580
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| From: | Robin Marks <Robin(at)PaintTheWeb.com> |
| Subject: | Re: G3X Component Locations |
It's tentatively on the schedule for this Wednesday.
Robin
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of bill.peyton
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 7:37 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: G3X Component Locations
Robin,
When you find out how to update it let me know! That drawback was a great
one to fix! Now hopefully ADS-b traffic and weather??
Bill
--------
Bill Peyton
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| Subject: | Bob Archer vs. Cat whisker |
| From: | "Strasnuts" <sean(at)braunandco.com> |
Just thought I would let builders know the difference I found today while flying
at 10500 directly to BOI VOR.
My 430W with the cat whiskers picked up BOI at 71 miles south
My SL30 with the Bob Archer picked up BOI at 56 miles south
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40936
RV-10 SB N801VR Flying
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| From: | "Seano" <sean(at)braunandco.com> |
| Subject: | Re: G3X Component Locations |
Call me if you have any questions during the update.... goes for you too
Bill.
801-580-3737
----- Original Message -----
From: "Robin Marks" <Robin(at)PaintTheWeb.com>
Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 9:35 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Re: G3X Component Locations
>
> It's tentatively on the schedule for this Wednesday.
>
> Robin
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of bill.peyton
> Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 7:37 PM
> To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Re: G3X Component Locations
>
>
> Robin,
> When you find out how to update it let me know! That drawback was a great
> one to fix! Now hopefully ADS-b traffic and weather??
> Bill
>
> --------
> Bill Peyton
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=353580#353580
>
>
>
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| From: | Werner Schneider <glastar(at)gmx.net> |
| Subject: | Re: G3X Component Locations |
I just wonder, what the overall cost for such a system is:
G3X with 2 screen, engine monitoring all sensors, AP, the subscribption
for air data, backup battery (?) and I guess a 430 is as a minimum
mandatory for being able to display for navigation VOR, GPS and ILS as well?
Just to compare with the other producer of fine EFIS systems
Many thanks
Werner
On 29.09.2011 22:28, Seano wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: Seano
>
> Robin,
>
> The new update fixes this. I flew mine out today (formation with Scott). I can
enter Flt plan on either unit and you can hit internal on the Efis and it uses
it's own gps. It's nice to have the g3x on gps and the 430w on loc.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 29, 2011, at 13:07, Robin Marks wrote:
>
>> --> RV10-List message posted by: Robin Marks
>>
>> I agree completely with Bill on his points. One thing not mentioned is the
>> cost of these systems is not in the screens so adding a third screen is
>> ~$3,500.
>> All that being said there are a few gotchya's on the G3X and the 430/530.
>> The 430 takes over responsibility when on so an flight plan best entered
>> into the G3X is useless when the 430 is on. One must place a flight plan
>> in the 430 to drive the AP. I have no idea what the situation is with the
>> 650/750. Regardless I understand that Garmin is planning to change this at
>> some point. On another note I personally prefer the D100 to the D10 as a
>> backup unit if space permits.
>> Just getting use to my dual screen G3x system in the 8A.
>>
>> Robin
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of bill.peyton
>> Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 6:30 AM
>> To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
>> Subject: RV10-List: Re: G3X Component Locations
>>
>> --> RV10-List message posted by: "bill.peyton"
>>
>> The reason I went with the 3 screen system is that both my wife and I are
>> pilots, we use our current plane for lot's of long cross country flights.
>> We intend to do the same with the -10. It seems like the person on the
>> right always ends up flying for a while on long legs, so the 3rd display
>> will take care of that. Also, our plan is to usually have the non-flying
>> pilot take care of the radios, talking to center, looking at weather and
>> navigating. The third display will make this a lot easier. The final
>> reason is that my father, and building partner, just turned 87. He
>> continues to fly and pass his medical and BFR every year. The only issue
>> is insurance. We have been told we will not be able to get any for him
>> without me or an instructor in the right seat. Those are the reasons for
>> my choice of a 3 display system.
>> While the size of the displays are not as large as the AFS or Dynon, they
>> fit very nicely in the panel. I attached my cad image with JPG files
>> overlaid on the panel.
>> Bill
>>
>> --------
>> Bill Peyton
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Read this topic online here:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=353512#353512
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Attachments:
>>
>> http://forums.matronics.com//files/complete_panel_699.bmp
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>
>
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| From: | Linn Walters <pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.net> |
| Subject: | Re: G3X Component Locations |
While you're comparing systems, take a look at MGL ......
http://www.mglavionics.com/.
I'm installing two independent Odyssey systems but with only one RDAC,
the engine monitor part. It mounts in the engine compartment and only
one signal wire penetrates the firewall instead of the huge mass of
CHT/EGT wires.
Linn
On 9/30/2011 2:43 AM, Werner Schneider wrote:
>
> I just wonder, what the overall cost for such a system is:
>
> G3X with 2 screen, engine monitoring all sensors, AP, the
> subscribption for air data, backup battery (?) and I guess a 430 is as
> a minimum mandatory for being able to display for navigation VOR, GPS
> and ILS as well?
>
> Just to compare with the other producer of fine EFIS systems
>
> Many thanks
>
> Werner
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| Subject: | Re: G3X Component Locations |
| From: | "bill.peyton" <peyton.b(at)sbcglobal.net> |
Werner,
You can go to the aircraft spruce site and price the whole thing out. You can
call SteinAir and get a quote on such a system. The system I have shown in my
prior post will cost me $32K. I purchased all of the radios used, although they
were never actually installed in aircraft. This saved quite a bit, but sacrificed
the warranty. I am doing all my own wiring, EE by trade. So you can
add $$ to have the work done for you by an avionics shop. All of the systems
are around the same amount within reason. There are features of some that you
may want that others don't offer. Dynon is probably the least expensive for
what you get, but is also the least capable system. You have to do your own
evaluation for how you intend to fly. At one point I had a spreadsheet, but I
can't seem to find it today.
Bill
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| From: | RobHickman(at)aol.com |
| Subject: | Re: Bob Archer vs. Cat whisker |
Try switching the SL30 and 430W, in my RV-10 with dual Archer the SL30
is far better than the 430W.
Rob Hickman
N402RH
In a message dated 9/29/2011 8:41:08 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
sean(at)braunandco.com writes:
--> RV10-List message posted by: "Strasnuts"
Just thought I would let builders know the difference I found today while
flying at 10500 directly to BOI VOR.
My 430W with the cat whiskers picked up BOI at 71 miles south
My SL30 with the Bob Archer picked up BOI at 56 miles south
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40936
RV-10 SB N801VR Flying
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| Subject: | Re: Bob Archer vs. Cat whisker |
| From: | Seano <sean(at)braunandco.com> |
Ya, your right, that would give a better comparison.
Sent from my iPhone
On Sep 30, 2011, at 13:00, RobHickman(at)aol.com wrote:
> Try switching the SL30 and 430W, in my RV-10 with dual Archer the SL30 i
s far better than the 430W.
>
> Rob Hickman
> N402RH
>
>
>
>
> In a message dated 9/29/2011 8:41:08 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, sean@brau
nandco.com writes:
>
> Just thought I would let builders know the difference I found today while f
lying at 10500 directly to BOI VOR.
> My 430W with the cat whiskers picked up BOI at 71 miles south
> My SL30 with the Bob Archer picked up BOI at 56 miles south
>
> --------
> 40936
> RV-10 SB N801VR Flying
>
>
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=353583#353583
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Morristown, TN Fly-in |
| From: | "Brantel" <bchesteen(at)hughes.net> |
We are sorry about the fuel price....The current lease holder of the FBO seems
to be dead set on killing General Aviation. Kind of weird hu? Well our EAA chapter
is dead set on promoting GA and bringing life back into our local airport!
Anyway, please do not let this ruin a great day trip. There are tons of cheaper
options for fuel in every direction around KMOR. The folks here are very friendly
and would love to see you here!
Brian Chesteen
President, EAA Chapter 1494
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| From: | Robin Marks <Robin(at)PaintTheWeb.com> |
| Subject: | Re: G3X System Upgrade |
Bill,
I have not done the update yet but it looks straight forward and simple.
If all goes well it should be a 15 minute upgrade unlike the G900X which
can be 90 minutes to 3 hours to upgrade (assuming you do EVERYTHING
right).
Here are the steps as I understand them:
Download v.6.2 from Garmin site
https://buy.garmin.com/shop/store/downloadsUpdates.jsp?product=010-00G3X-0
0&cID=155&pID=63892
Save to computer desktop (or file)
Insert blank SD card (2-4 Gb max)
Double Click Downloaded file click to execute which will need to be
extract onto the SD card
Power up and install one screen at a time to update
Then Update the GSU 73 (slightly more difficult than updating the screens)
Place GSU in "Configuration Mode" by holding left soft key on PFD while
powering on the unit.
Scroll to GSU folder
Hit Update Software
Good luck,
Robin
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| Subject: | Re: G3X System Upgrade |
| From: | "Strasnuts" <sean(at)braunandco.com> |
Robin, Bill,
I just want to add:
It is nice to update the databases at the same time since you are already inserting
the SD cards. Also, if you want to add your own checklist now is the time.
I keep the 6.2 version or whatever on one card and the databases, checklists,
flight logs on another. I have two 4gb cards that do everything. Just like
you said Robin, you plug each card into each screen and the EFIS will ask if
you want to update. It is easy. The GSU is just as you said too. It doesn't
ask for the GSU update until you are in Config mode on PFD1.
Note: You don't have to save file to computer. You can have your SD card plugged
in and it will go straight to it.
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40936
RV-10 SB N801VR Flying
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| Subject: | North Carolina RV10s? |
| From: | "rvdave" <davidbf(at)centurytel.net> |
I will be flying my RV6 to NC Oct 6-9 for a funeral and wondered if there are any
RV10ers in the Advance/Winston Salem area. Also I will have a little free
time on Sunday if there is any recommendable exploring to do or see in the area?
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Dave Ford
RV6 flying
RV10 building
Cadillac, MI
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| From: | "Thane States" <thane2(at)comporium.net> |
| Subject: | Re: North Carolina RV10s? |
Hi Dave, I am based in KUZA, just South of KCLT. I may be around over the
weekend. Not sure yet of our plans.
I just had my RV-10 painted, after 3 yrs.
Thane
N321BY
----- Original Message -----
From: "rvdave" <davidbf(at)centurytel.net>
Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2011 8:51 AM
Subject: RV10-List: North Carolina RV10s?
>
> I will be flying my RV6 to NC Oct 6-9 for a funeral and wondered if there
> are any RV10ers in the Advance/Winston Salem area. Also I will have a
> little free time on Sunday if there is any recommendable exploring to do
> or see in the area?
>
> --------
> Dave Ford
> RV6 flying
> RV10 building
> Cadillac, MI
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=353766#353766
>
>
>
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| From: | "Ralph E. Capen" <recapen(at)earthlink.net> |
| Subject: | Who's in charge at Aircraft spruce? |
Folks,
I need some contact information..
Generally, I have gotten good quality and service from these folks - not
really trying to bash them - so I won't provide the details yet. I want to
provide them with one more chance to get it right and improve their business
process to provide a satisfaction level.
So, who is in charge at Aircraft Spruce? I have already talked to a bunch
of folks there - but no-one that I consider 'in-charge' yet.
Ralph Capen
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| From: | "Jack Phillips" <pietflyr(at)bellsouth.net> |
| Subject: | Who's in charge at Aircraft spruce? |
Try Jim Erwin. He's the Prsident.
_____
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ralph E. Capen
Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2011 10:12 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Who's in charge at Aircraft spruce?
Folks,
I need some contact information..
Generally, I have gotten good quality and service from these folks - not
really trying to bash them - so I won't provide the details yet. I want to
provide them with one more chance to get it right and improve their business
process to provide a satisfaction level.
So, who is in charge at Aircraft Spruce? I have already talked to a bunch
of folks there - but no-one that I consider 'in-charge' yet.
Ralph Capen
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| Subject: | Re: North Carolina RV10s? |
| From: | "rvdave" <davidbf(at)centurytel.net> |
Sounds good Thane, I will look you up if I can get a contact number for you, my
cell is 231 878 6571 or you could email me rv610dave(at)gmail.com Thanks,
--------
Dave Ford
RV6 flying
RV10 building
Cadillac, MI
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| From: | "Pascal" <rv10flyer(at)verizon.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Who's in charge at Aircraft spruce? |
I have dealt with the Corona side, which is where Jim Irwin and his
family are located. I never needed to talk to them as I have had issues
resolved. Recently I ordered a N number. Forget the cost but the
shipping for the 2 vinyl strips was $12.95. I was quite upset as another
company charges $20 for the NO number and $2.21 for shipping. I called
and spoke with someone out East. Told me it was too bad.. I was upset.
Called later and spoke with someone in Corona customer service. She told
me not to worry about it as she would take care of it. She credited my
credit card and charged me $2 for shipping.
The difference in the two attitudes was night and day. Call the West
coast number (not 800) and try your issue again, if you go no where,
tell them you want the issue escalated, should not need to go that far,
if you do call back and ask to speak with Jim.
They care about customers, I trust they will take care of you.
From: Ralph E. Capen
Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2011 7:12 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Who's in charge at Aircraft spruce?
Folks,
I need some contact information.
Generally, I have gotten good quality and service from these folks
=93 not really trying to bash them =93 so I won=99t
provide the details yet. I want to provide them with one more chance to
get it right and improve their business process to provide a
satisfaction level.
So, who is in charge at Aircraft Spruce? I have already talked to a
bunch of folks there =93 but no-one that I consider
=98in-charge=99 yet.
Ralph Capen
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| Subject: | Re: Who's in charge at Aircraft spruce? |
| From: | "Bob Turner" <bobturner(at)alum.rpi.edu> |
"Ditto": Jim read a minor ACS complaint of mine here, and promptly fixed it. Here's
his email:
jimirwin(at)aircraftspruce.com
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Bob Turner
RV-10 QB
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| From: | davidsoutpost(at)comcast.net |
| Subject: | Re: Failed Alternator |
Just wondering if others are using this alternator instead of the Plane Power from
Van's. If any are using this, what if anything did you do for the cooling
fan since it is set up for clockwise rotation. Can the fan be flipped or is this
a non issue?
David Clifford
RV-10 Builder
Howell, MI
----- Original Message -----
From: "Albert Gardner" <ibspud(at)roadrunner.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 9:32:08 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Failed Alternator
My Vans supplied 60 A alternator failed at about 150 hours. The replacement was
an Nippondenso Model 36-14684N from an auto parts store and seems to be working
fine at 550 hrs. I get the impression that a suitable alternator may be found
under several manufacturer/part no. combinations.
Albert Gardner
N991RV
Yuma, AZ
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| From: | "Carl Froehlich" <carl.froehlich(at)verizon.net> |
| Subject: | Failed Alternator |
After my custom alternator failed (50 hours) in my 8A, I went to Advanced
Auto. I now have 600 hours on a Mitsubishi 60 -70 amp, internal regulator,
internal fan alternator.
While various makes are suitable, the one I have is from a 1990 Mazda 626,
2.2L, L4, Fuel injected. Price is $90-$100 at Advance Auto parts and other
auto stores.
Two things:
- Most of these alternators come with the serpentine type belt. Take
the pulley off your old alternator and put it on the new one.
- As this these alternators are internally regulated, external
overvoltage protection is recommended. I have the output of the alternator
going through a 70A breaker, then to an output solenoid before it ties into
the battery buss. The output solenoid is on a separate breaker with a crow
bar over voltage protection on it that shorts the breaker output - tripping
the breaker and thus opening the solenoid on overvoltage.
On the RV-10 I'm going with the straight plane power option as the internal
over voltage protection simplifies the install.
Carl
From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of
davidsoutpost(at)comcast.net
Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2011 9:55 PM
Subject: Re: RV10-List: Failed Alternator
Just wondering if others are using this alternator instead of the Plane
Power from Van's. If any are using this, what if anything did you do for
the cooling fan since it is set up for clockwise rotation. Can the fan be
flipped or is this a non issue?
David Clifford
RV-10 Builder
Howell, MI
_____
From: "Albert Gardner" <ibspud(at)roadrunner.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2011 9:32:08 PM
Subject: RE: RV10-List: Failed Alternator
My Vans supplied 60 A alternator failed at about 150 hours. The replacement
was an Nippondenso Model 36-14684N from an auto parts store and seems to be
working fine at 550 hrs. I get the impression that a suitable alternator may
be found under several manufacturer/part no. combinations.
Albert Gardner
N991RV
Yuma, AZ
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| Subject: | 2011 Copperstate RV10 Nest |
| From: | "woxofswa" <woxof(at)aol.com> |
Time for the Fourth (and last) annual Copperstate RV10 nest. (Fifth and last will
be next year).
I hope to be set up all three days. Definitely the last two. All are welcome
anytime for a shady place to crash and relax and grab something out of the cooler.
Carne Asada luncheon Saturday noonish.
Hope to see a great turnout as we have each year so far.
Questions or comments
woxof(at)aol.com
602 421-2868
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Myron Nelson
Mesa, AZ
Emp completed, QB wings completed, legacy build fuse in mostly done, finishing
kit in progress.
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| From: | Robin Marks <robin(at)PaintTheWeb.com> |
| Subject: | Alternate Spinner |
Is anyone using a spinner other than the standard Vans spinner on the Vans
cowl for the -10?
Robin
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| From: | "DLM" <dlm34077(at)q.com> |
| Subject: | Reno before and after |
Just to give you an idea of how horrific the crash scene was, here are
before and after photos of the seating
section that was at the point of impact.
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| From: | "Chris Hukill" <cjhukill(at)cox.net> |
| Subject: | Fw: Another possible cause (Reno) |
From a friend who flies corporate jets for The Limited
Good News for the future of air racing.
Our new crew member, Matt Jackson, is not only a race pilot,
aircraft
business owner and aircraft owner (he also takes care of Tom
Cruises P-51)
but he is also the VP of the Unlimited Racing Class and head
of the Safety
Committee.
We had a long talk about the Reno crash on the way to Mojave
today.
Matt believes the cause of the crash was due to The Galloping
Ghost having a
CG too close to the aft limit which resulted in pitch
instability. There are
instructions on the P-51 regarding no combat missions with the
aft fuel tank
full resulting in an aft CG problem. Instructions specify to
empty the aft
fuel tank first in flight.
During qualifying Matt watched Galloping Ghost from inside the
cockpit of
Furias and could not believe how much trouble Leeward was
having in keeping
the Ghost in a stable pattern around the course.
Since Leeward lives in Florida and the Galloping Ghost was
modified for
racing in Calif., when Leeward picked up the Ghost for the
Reno races at the
last minute, a complete flight test program had not been done
based on
available information.
There is a video of the entire last lap of the Ghost before
the crash which
Matt showed me. As Leeward was coming around pylon #8 at about
480 mph after
passing Rare Bear, he hit turbulence which pitched his left
wing down,
Leeward corrected with hard right rudder and aileron. Just as
the aircraft
was straightening out, he hit a second mountain of turbulence
which caused
the tail to 'dig in' resulting in a 10+ G climb rendering
Leeward
unconscious instantly and resulted in the tail wheel falling
out. (broken
tail wheel support structure was found on the course). As the
Ghost shot
upward the LH elevator trim tab broke loose. This can be heard
on the tape,
so the trim tab did not cause the accident.
Since the Ghost was racing at 480 mph with full right rudder
and the stick
full right, this is where everything stayed when Leeward
blacked out.
Cockpit camera film that was salvaged from the wreck shows
Leeward slumped
over to the right in the cockpit. As a result, the Ghost
climbed up and to
the right, rolled over on her back and then headed for the box
seats. Most
in the box seats never saw it coming because it came in from
behind them.
Matt has had long conversations with the NTSB who call the
accident a
'fluke'. They are not going to recommend canceling future
races. He has also
talked to the insurance companies covering the races for Reno
and they also
say they are not going to cancel their coverage of future
races. Now we wait
for the FAA to make a decision.
Ironically, Matt bought box seats tickets for his good friends
who stayed
with him for a few days before the races. They were the
husband and wife who
were killed.
__._,_.___
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| From: | "Gary Specketer" <speckter(at)comcast.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Alternate Spinner |
I am using an Aero Comsites spinner.
Gary Specketer
From: Robin Marks
Sent: Monday, October 03, 2011 10:34 PM
Subject: RV10-List: Alternate Spinner
Is anyone using a spinner other than the standard Vans spinner on the
Vans cowl for the -10?
Robin
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| Subject: | Re: Alternate Spinner |
| From: | "Mike Whisky" <rv-10(at)wellenzohn.net> |
Hi Robin
I use the HiGlo spinner from MT it's a chrome finish kevlar composite spinner
http://www.mt-propeller.com/en/entw/pro_spin.htm
Cheers
Mike
--------
RV-10 builder (interior & finishing)
#511
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| From: | David <dmaib(at)mac.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Alternate Spinner |
I have an MT propeller, so am using the MT spinner that comes with
the prop. MT makes them to fit the RV-10 cowl. Very nice spinner and
is ready for paint when it arrives. But, of course, you have to be
swinging the MT prop!
David Maib
40559
Flying
On Oct 3, 2011, at 10:34 PM, Robin Marks wrote:
> Is anyone using a spinner other than the standard Vans spinner on
> the Vans cowl for the -10?
>
> Robin
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: RV-10 down in Marieeta, OH |
| From: | "AirMike" <Mikeabel(at)Pacbell.net> |
I hope that the pilots are recovering ok. Any news out there how they are doing.
I hope the news is good. Let's all pray for full their full recovery.
A day does not go by without me thinking of them - hoping and praying for their
full recovery.
--------
See you OSH '12
Q/B - flying 2 yrs.
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| Subject: | Painting SS Screws |
| From: | "jayb" <jaybrinkmeyer(at)yahoo.com> |
I'm considering painting the stainless screws that hold the panel in place. Does
anything special need to be done to prep them for the paint to stick? I'm using
PPG auto paint if it matters.
Thanks,
Jay
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| From: | John Ackerman <johnag5b(at)cableone.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Alternate Spinner |
Robin:
Those who have the Aerocomposites prop likely have the Aerocomposites
spinner. It's a thing of beauty.
I'm given to understand it is a standard Vans spinner modified at the
forward bulkhead with an integral support ring. Mine is a delight - it
runs perfectly true as well as I can tell. Easy to install- no fuss, no
muss.
John Ackerman
On Oct 3, 2011, at 7:34 PM, Robin Marks wrote:
> Is anyone using a spinner other than the standard Vans spinner on the
Vans cowl for the -10?
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| From: | "Pascal" <rv10flyer(at)verizon.net> |
| Subject: | Re: Painting SS Screws |
I did the following
320 sandpaper or scotchbrite.
clean
prime
paint
I recall Tim shows how she painted his screws on his site.
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From: jayb
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2011 7:39 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Painting SS Screws
I'm considering painting the stainless screws that hold the panel in place.
Does anything special need to be done to prep them for the paint to stick?
I'm using PPG auto paint if it matters.
Thanks,
Jay
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| From: | Bill Watson <Mauledriver(at)nc.rr.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Painting SS Screws |
Haven't tried that yet but should work after a quick thinner wipe. It
works well with galvanized screws using Imron products
I had SS cap screws holding my panel but went to black - just bought
replacements from McMaster Carr. I assume you are using flat head SS
screws and I don't think you can buy them in black or colors.
Bill
On 10/4/2011 10:39 AM, jayb wrote:
> --> RV10-List message posted by: "jayb"
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> I'm considering painting the stainless screws that hold the panel in place. Does
anything special need to be done to prep them for the paint to stick? I'm
using PPG auto paint if it matters.
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| From: | Robin Marks <robin(at)PaintTheWeb.com> |
| Subject: | Re: Alternate Spinner |
Interesting, do you have a photo of your spinner on your plane? Do you
recall the $.
Thanks,
Robin
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From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com
[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mike Whisky
Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2011 5:43 AM
Subject: RV10-List: Re: Alternate Spinner
Hi Robin
I use the HiGlo spinner from MT it's a chrome finish kevlar composite
spinner
http://www.mt-propeller.com/en/entw/pro_spin.htm
Cheers
Mike
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| Subject: | Re: Alternate Spinner |
| From: | Michael Kraus <n223rv(at)wolflakeairport.net> |
I have one too, here is mine. It was like a $500 option, but it sure is pret
ty!!
-Mike K
Sent from my iPhone
On Oct 4, 2011, at 11:47 AM, Robin Marks wrote:
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> Interesting, do you have a photo of your spinner on your plane? Do you
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> Robin
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> From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Mike Whisky
> Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2011 5:43 AM
> To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: RV10-List: Re: Alternate Spinner
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> Hi Robin
> I use the HiGlo spinner from MT it's a chrome finish kevlar composite
> spinner
> http://www.mt-propeller.com/en/entw/pro_spin.htm
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> Mike
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