> > terminal it has a round hole for a three pin connector. I don't have
the
> > connector and the pins are not marked so I don't have a clue which pin I
> > need to connect the 12 volts to in order to turn the Alternator on or
off.
> > The Kragan people could not help.
> >
> > I'm hoping someone out there has already been there and done that. I
> know
> > Vans sells a connector for their alternators and I'm also sending them
an
> > e-mail.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Tom Rupe
> > RV4 S/N 62
>
>
> -------------------------------------------
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________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Aug 26, 2002
From:
jamesbaldwin(at)attglobal.net
Subject:
Re: Alternator Hookup
Tom-
If you take it to your local auto electrical establishment they will tell you
what each terminal is probably by simply looking at it. There are only a couple
of things an alternator needs -- field excitation, ground and output. This is
not a big thing to figure out and worst case they can look at it electrically.
JBB
Tom and Faye wrote:
>
> Hi,
> I wish I had more information. All I know is that it is a Kragen Import
> Alternator. All it has is a paper label with their P/N and a barcode.
> There is no manufacture info at all. They could sell me a replacement with
> the info I have but they can't tell me what it's for or how it gets hooked
> up electrically.
> I guess their computers don't work that direction.
>
> I wouldn't mind having your drawing though. It might help.
>
> Thanks for your response.
> Tom Rupe
> RV4 S/N 62
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "flyseaplane" <flyseaplane(at)netzero.net>
> To:
> Subject: Re: RV4-List: Alternator Hookup
>
> >
> > Mr. Rupe,
> >
> > Is this the Nippondenso alternator from a Geo Metro/ Chevy Sprint??
> > If so, e-mail me and I will send you a diagram.
> >
> > Later,
> > Linc
> > Subject: RV4-List: Alternator Hookup
> >
> >
> > >
> > > As part of my rebuild project, I'm putting all new electrical wire in my
> > > RV4, and have run into a snag with the alternator. It is a Kragen
> Import
> > > 60 amp, P/N 30-5088 MPA with and internal regulator. Besides the B
> > > terminal it has a round hole for a three pin connector. I don't have
> the
> > > connector and the pins are not marked so I don't have a clue which pin I
> > > need to connect the 12 volts to in order to turn the Alternator on or
> off.
> > > The Kragan people could not help.
> > >
> > > I'm hoping someone out there has already been there and done that. I
> > know
> > > Vans sells a connector for their alternators and I'm also sending them
> an
> > > e-mail.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Tom Rupe
> > > RV4 S/N 62
> >
> >
> > -------------------------------------------
> > Introducing NetZero Long Distance
> > Unlimited Long Distance only $29.95/ month!
> > Sign Up Today! www.netzerolongdistance.com
> >
> >
>
________________________________________________________________________________
From:
"James Lawliss" <ARG1(at)capital.net>
Subject:
Re: Alternator Hookup
Date:
Aug 26, 2002
This, fellow birdmen, is a mystery wrapped in a conundrum. I took a copy of
the original email to my best starter/generator/alternator repair facility
and the owner looked up - or rather tried to look up- the possibilities and
came up with three which really do not sound like that item initially
described.
One of the characteristics lacking from the three Nippon possibles is the
internal regulator. All of those he located on his discs were three-pin with
labels on the pins- typically "F", "P", "E" and they each had a separate
post for "Batt".
Good luck.
----- Original Message -----
From: <jamesbaldwin(at)attglobal.net>
Subject: Re: RV4-List: Alternator Hookup
>
> Tom-
> If you take it to your local auto electrical establishment they will tell
you
> what each terminal is probably by simply looking at it. There are only a
couple
> of things an alternator needs -- field excitation, ground and output.
This is
> not a big thing to figure out and worst case they can look at it
electrically.
> JBB
>
> Tom and Faye wrote:
>
> >
> > Hi,
> > I wish I had more information. All I know is that it is a Kragen Import
> > Alternator. All it has is a paper label with their P/N and a barcode.
> > There is no manufacture info at all. They could sell me a replacement
with
> > the info I have but they can't tell me what it's for or how it gets
hooked
> > up electrically.
> > I guess their computers don't work that direction.
> >
> > I wouldn't mind having your drawing though. It might help.
> >
> > Thanks for your response.
> > Tom Rupe
> > RV4 S/N 62
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "flyseaplane" <flyseaplane(at)netzero.net>
> > To:
> > Subject: Re: RV4-List: Alternator Hookup
> >
> > >
> > > Mr. Rupe,
> > >
> > > Is this the Nippondenso alternator from a Geo Metro/ Chevy Sprint??
> > > If so, e-mail me and I will send you a diagram.
> > >
> > > Later,
> > > Linc
> > > Subject: RV4-List: Alternator Hookup
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > As part of my rebuild project, I'm putting all new electrical wire
in my
> > > > RV4, and have run into a snag with the alternator. It is a Kragen
> > Import
> > > > 60 amp, P/N 30-5088 MPA with and internal regulator. Besides the B
> > > > terminal it has a round hole for a three pin connector. I don't
have
> > the
> > > > connector and the pins are not marked so I don't have a clue which
pin I
> > > > need to connect the 12 volts to in order to turn the Alternator on
or
> > off.
> > > > The Kragan people could not help.
> > > >
> > > > I'm hoping someone out there has already been there and done that.
I
> > > know
> > > > Vans sells a connector for their alternators and I'm also sending
them
> > an
> > > > e-mail.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > > Tom Rupe
> > > > RV4 S/N 62
> > >
> > >
> > > -------------------------------------------
> > > Introducing NetZero Long Distance
> > > Unlimited Long Distance only $29.95/ month!
> > > Sign Up Today! www.netzerolongdistance.com
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Aug 31, 2002
From:
art stavro <art79(at)pacbell.net>
Subject:
Tail wheel instructor
Hi guys..I am looking for a tail wheel instructor with lots and lots of
hours preferably but not necesarily with RV time..Said instructor must
weigh 180 lbs or less..Must live somewhere realatively close to the bay
area and must have 6.5 hours of free time some weekend to go fly around
with me in my 150 HP RV4. I am not looking for instruction, just
someone to give my hard earned money to so I can satisfy my insurance
requirements.You can contact me off line at 510 278 0260 or my cell 510
541 4979..Thanks, Art
________________________________________________________________________________
From:
"James Lawliss" <ARG1(at)capital.net>
Subject:
Re: Tail wheel instructor
Date:
Aug 31, 2002
Not trying to be negative about this, Art, but maybe you should list your TD
experience for those instructors?
Particularly since you say you "...are not looking for instruction..."
Just a thought.
----- Original Message -----
From: "art stavro" <art79(at)pacbell.net>
Subject: RV4-List: Tail wheel instructor
>
> Hi guys..I am looking for a tail wheel instructor with lots and lots of
> hours preferably but not necesarily with RV time..Said instructor must
> weigh 180 lbs or less..Must live somewhere realatively close to the bay
> area and must have 6.5 hours of free time some weekend to go fly around
> with me in my 150 HP RV4. I am not looking for instruction, just
> someone to give my hard earned money to so I can satisfy my insurance
> requirements.You can contact me off line at 510 278 0260 or my cell 510
> 541 4979..Thanks, Art
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Aug 31, 2002
From:
art stavro <art79(at)pacbell.net>
Subject:
Re: Tail wheel instructor
Maby I should clarify, I am looking to fly off mandatory hours for my insurance
to kick in. They demanded an RV4 pilot, CFI with 250 hrs tail wheel time 1000
hours TT. I believe I have talked them into a CFI with lots of tail wheel time.
I have already had tail wheel instruction and check out and am currently
commuting with the airplane but thought it would be nice to have some insurance
seeing as how I have paid for it already. Thanks again, Art
James Lawliss wrote:
>
> Not trying to be negative about this, Art, but maybe you should list your TD
> experience for those instructors?
> Particularly since you say you "...are not looking for instruction..."
> Just a thought.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "art stavro" <art79(at)pacbell.net>
> To:
> Subject: RV4-List: Tail wheel instructor
>
> >
> > Hi guys..I am looking for a tail wheel instructor with lots and lots of
> > hours preferably but not necesarily with RV time..Said instructor must
> > weigh 180 lbs or less..Must live somewhere realatively close to the bay
> > area and must have 6.5 hours of free time some weekend to go fly around
> > with me in my 150 HP RV4. I am not looking for instruction, just
> > someone to give my hard earned money to so I can satisfy my insurance
> > requirements.You can contact me off line at 510 278 0260 or my cell 510
> > 541 4979..Thanks, Art
> >
> >
>
________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Sep 01, 2002
From:
Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject:
Getting Bounced From Matronics Lists...
Dear Listers,
I have two programs I run regularly to purge the various Matronics email
lists of bad email addresses. I referred to these as my Email Weasels and
there is a daily version that is run automatically every night at midnight
and there is a and a monthly version that I run by hand at roughly 30-day
intervals.
The Daily Weasel grinds through the 8 to 10mb of bounced email that is
generated each day looking for obvious things like "user unknown", "host
unknown", and other things that usually mean the user's email address
doesn't exist any longer. The Daily Weasel has been purging 5 to 10 email
addresses each night.
The Monthly Weasel gets more serious about the task and sends a single
message to each list member with specially generated headers and content
information. Any bounces or replies to these messages are considered
errors and the email address is eligible for purging. This program is
particularly useful for "weaseling out" email addresses that are actually
being forwarded to by another email address that is subscribed to a List
and otherwise would not be identifiable. The Monthly Weasel purges roughly
100 nonexistent email addresses each month when it is run.
To check to see if your address has been removed by either of the Email
Weasel programs, you can check the Weasel Status Web Page at the following URL:
http://www.matronics.com/unsubscribed
If you find your email address on the Weasel List, but are certain that
everything is working fine now, simply go the Matronics Subscription page
and resubscribe your address. No harm, no foul. The subscription URL is:
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That all having been said, I've noticed that the Daily Weasel may have been
getting a little too aggressive in purging addresses recently and a number
of people have written asking if and why they'd been dropped from the List.
A couple of months ago I rewrote the Daily Weasel program to include a
wider variety of errors and more aggressively purge. One of the new purge
criteria that I added seems to occur a fair amount of the time (Connection
Deferred) even though the address is really okay.
As of today, I've removed the Connection Deferred criteria from the Daily
Weasel Rule set and this should decrease the number of "false positives"
and unnecessary unsubscribed.
Again, if you get unsubscribed by either of the Email Weasel utilities,
simply go to the subscription page and resubscribe:
http://www.matronics.com/subscribe
Best regards,
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________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Sep 03, 2002
From:
rob ray <smokyray(at)yahoo.com>
Subject:
Re: Tail wheel instructor
Art;
Where are you located and who is your insurance
company? I might be able to help.
Rob Ray
--- art stavro wrote:
>
>
> Maby I should clarify, I am looking to fly off
> mandatory hours for my insurance
> to kick in. They demanded an RV4 pilot, CFI with 250
> hrs tail wheel time 1000
> hours TT. I believe I have talked them into a CFI
> with lots of tail wheel time.
> I have already had tail wheel instruction and check
> out and am currently
> commuting with the airplane but thought it would be
> nice to have some insurance
> seeing as how I have paid for it already. Thanks
> again, Art
>
> James Lawliss wrote:
>
>
> >
> > Not trying to be negative about this, Art, but
> maybe you should list your TD
> > experience for those instructors?
> > Particularly since you say you "...are not looking
> for instruction..."
> > Just a thought.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "art stavro" <art79(at)pacbell.net>
> > To:
> > Subject: RV4-List: Tail wheel instructor
> >
>
> > >
> > > Hi guys..I am looking for a tail wheel
> instructor with lots and lots of
> > > hours preferably but not necesarily with RV
> time..Said instructor must
> > > weigh 180 lbs or less..Must live somewhere
> realatively close to the bay
> > > area and must have 6.5 hours of free time some
> weekend to go fly around
> > > with me in my 150 HP RV4. I am not looking for
> instruction, just
> > > someone to give my hard earned money to so I can
> satisfy my insurance
> > > requirements.You can contact me off line at 510
> 278 0260 or my cell 510
> > > 541 4979..Thanks, Art
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
>
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>
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> other List members.
>
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________________________________________________________________________________
From:
PGLong(at)aol.com
Date:
Sep 04, 2002
Subject:
RV 4 Flaps.....FL 6
Hi again
I'm having a little difficulty in deciphering the sketches for the FL 6
assembly. Are there any better prints available other than the three views
shown on the bottom of sheet 15? Knew I should have taken blue print reading
somewhere along the line...Did get the rest of the first flap constructed and
it even looks like the drawings. Ha.
Thanks for any additional information.
Pat Long
Bay City, Michigan
(989)684-0581
Working on an RV-4
Email: PGLong(at)aol.com
________________________________________________________________________________
From:
PGLong(at)aol.com
Date:
Sep 11, 2002
Subject:
Spray can primer?
What are the part numbers and where can I get the spray can primers that are
self etching . I just have the flaps and ailerons to prime so don't think I
want to do the alodine procedure for just the few parts I need to make to
finish up the kit. The rest of the RV 4 has been protected by what looks to
be green zinc chromate and could have been done over alodined aluminum. I
recall someone talking about a PPG primer that did the etching as long as the
metal had been cleaned with MEK or Acetone.
Pat Long
Bay City, Michigan
(989)684-0581
Working on an RV-4
Email: PGLong(at)aol.com
________________________________________________________________________________
Pat,
I use a spray can product from Sherwin Williams labelled GBP 988. It is
distributed at SW automotive finishes stores. It says on the can it is a
self etching primer. The finish is light gray. Sprays easily, and seems to
be "fairly" durable.
Tom Chapman
RV-4- 985 hours
Building RV-8-fuse
----- Original Message -----
>
> What are the part numbers and where can I get the spray can primers that
are
> self etching . >
Pat Long
> Bay City, Michigan
________________________________________________________________________________
From:
"Jack Gageby" <jackgageby(at)worldnet.att.net>
Subject:
Re: Spray can primer?
Date:
Sep 11, 2002
MAR-HYDE Single Stage Pretreatment Primer, Light Gray, No. 5111. Try an
automotive paint supply store in your area.
----- Original Message -----
From: <PGLong(at)aol.com>
Subject: RV4-List: Spray can primer?
>
> What are the part numbers and where can I get the spray can primers that
are
> self etching . I just have the flaps and ailerons to prime so don't think
I
> want to do the alodine procedure for just the few parts I need to make to
> finish up the kit. The rest of the RV 4 has been protected by what looks
to
> be green zinc chromate and could have been done over alodined aluminum. I
> recall someone talking about a PPG primer that did the etching as long as
the
> metal had been cleaned with MEK or Acetone.
>
> Pat Long
> Bay City, Michigan
> (989)684-0581
> Working on an RV-4
> Email: PGLong(at)aol.com
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
Inverted Valve for Brake Fluid Reservoir... A.K.A. "The Reservoir
Dog"
Date:
Sep 12, 2002
Hi Guys & Gals,
I hope I ain't bothering you, but Alex Peterson (one of our own
aerobatic RV pilots) just perfected his latest/greatest invention... "The
Reservoir Dog". This little valve keeps the brake fluid in the reservoir
while we are sloshing around, rolling upside down, tossing our tail
feathers, etc...
If you are interested (and who doesn't want to keep that caustic pink
fluid from dripping all over & ruining the valuables inside and outside our
engine compartments?, not to mention what it will do to our beautiful paint)
just email Alex at alexpeterson(at)usjet.net and he will zip one of these
puppies right to you! Believe me you will love 'em, I know I do.
Chuck
legal disclaimer: I have not, nor will not, receive any compensation for
endorsing this item... I just tried one, think it's great!!! and would like
to see a good product, new entrepreneur succeed!
________________________________________________________________________________
From:
"Tom and Faye" <tcrupe(at)ridgenet.net>
Subject:
Seats
Date:
Sep 14, 2002
The response to my alternator question was great.
Thanks to everyone.
Here are 2 more. 1. Who manufactures the most comfortable seats for the
RV4? 2. Does any one have the dimensions for building the seats from
scratch. I might try that.
Thanks
Tom Rupe
S/N 62
________________________________________________________________________________
From:
"Ron and Kay Robinson" <ronkayr(at)rmci.net>
Subject:
RV4 Canopy
Date:
Sep 15, 2002
I'm scratch building a sliding canopy on an RV4.
Question: Has anyone flown a -4 with a sliding canopy with the canopy open ? What
were the results ?
Ron -- ronkayr(at)rmci.net
________________________________________________________________________________
There is one gentleman who had a sliding canopy who made a fairing that he
could slide on instead of the sliding portion of the canopy. It covered the
rear seat effectively making it an open cockpit airplane. Reports were that
it flew just fine.
--
Scott VanArtsdalen, MCSE - CCNA
Network Manager
Union Safe Deposit Bank
209-946-5116
-----Original Message-----
From: Ron and Kay Robinson [mailto:ronkayr(at)rmci.net]
Subject: RV4-List: RV4 Canopy
I'm scratch building a sliding canopy on an RV4.
Question: Has anyone flown a -4 with a sliding canopy with the canopy open ?
What were the results ?
Ron -- ronkayr(at)rmci.net
________________________________________________________________________________
From:
Flylow38(at)aol.com
Date:
Sep 19, 2002
Subject:
Pilot emergency chutes for sale
>2 Pilot Emergency Chutes For Sale. Used in my RV4 for 6 months. Very
>compact.
> > Chute 1 is a Red 26' foot Micro Softie with Quick release buckles.$550.00
Lowered from $750.00. MFG. June-1988, it is a STRONG Mid Lite 26' canopy
>The container is a Micro Softie and was MFG. May 1989. It was used a few
>times in 1993 but thats about it except for my occasional use last year.
>
> > Chute 2 is a Blue with red trim National backpack 360 with sheepskin
>padding.>The National 360 was MFG. Dec. 1985. 24' Phantom Canopy.
> > WAS $575.00 now $450.00>Both chutes were repacked last year and are in
excellent >condition.> > Located in Southern California. I Paid $1450.00 for
both, I will sell for
>$950 for both. Buyer Pays shipping. Located in Southern California, I can
meet possibly half way to pick up depending on distance.
> > Contact Will Whiteside 818-359-1106 whiteside(at)aol.com
________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Sep 22, 2002
From:
Greg Hunsicker <gh2538(at)cjnetworks.com>
Subject:
Lord mount orientation???
I just got the new J-6230-1 Lord mount bushings from Vans and I have no
orientation marks on my conical engine mount to help me install them
correctly. Can anyone help me make sure I get them installed correctly?
Thanks
Greg Hunsicker
________________________________________________________________________________
From:
"flyseaplane" <flyseaplane(at)netzero.net>
Subject:
Lord mount orientation???
Date:
Sep 23, 2002
" I just got the new J-6230-1 Lord mount bushings from Vans and I have no
orientation marks on my conical engine mount to help me install them
correctly. Can anyone help me make sure I get them installed correctly?"
-----------------------------------------------------
Hello Greg,
Last I checked there were no orientation marks for conical mounts. They just
go in. What indication do you have that would make you think they need to be
"oriented" ?? If you want a picture of mine I will send it to you - - send
me an e-mail to my address above, NOT to the list. I'm sending this to the
list since I have never heard of orientation marks - - - does anyone else
have any idea what could be baffling Greg??
Take Care,
Linc
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Date:
Sep 23, 2002
From:
Bill Marvel <bmarvel(at)cox.net>
Subject:
Re: Lord mount orientation???
Greg:
I don't have a Lord catalog but from your post I assume the J-6230-1 mounts are
the "straight" mounts (not Dynafocal). I wasn't aware Van sold them since they
are not in my catalog. If you really have these mounts (all 8 are identical and
cone shaped), then they have no preferred orientation.
However, if you actually have Dynafocal mounts, there is a definite orientation
required for them but they can be assembled incorrectly without you knowing they
are wrong.
Does your steel engine mount have all four engine attach bolts parallel to each
other or angled into the center of the engine?
Bill Marvel
flyseaplane wrote:
> --> RV-List message posted by: "flyseaplane"
>
> " I just got the new J-6230-1 Lord mount bushings from Vans and I have no
> orientation marks on my conical engine mount to help me install them
> correctly. Can anyone help me make sure I get them installed correctly?"
> -----------------------------------------------------
> Hello Greg,
>
> Last I checked there were no orientation marks for conical mounts. They just
> go in. What indication do you have that would make you think they need to be
> "oriented" ?? If you want a picture of mine I will send it to you - - send
> me an e-mail to my address above, NOT to the list. I'm sending this to the
> list since I have never heard of orientation marks - - - does anyone else
> have any idea what could be baffling Greg??
>
> Take Care,
> Linc
>
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________________________________________________________________________________
Hi all,
I'm a British RV-4 builder who is soon to be found hanging around Cooking
Lake, Edmonton for a month (6th Oct thru 4th Nov) aquiring my Canadian PPL.
If any RV-4 folk are in the area - builders, flyers, wannabe's and want to
talk -4, please email me direct.
Also of interest would be information of a local EAA chapter.
Many thanks,
Bruce Naylor
RV-4
________________________________________________________________________________
From:
"C. Rabaut" <crabaut(at)coalinga.com>
Subject:
Fw: Rocket-List: cowl pressure
Date:
Oct 02, 2002
Okay, having said that give us the solution that utilizes that lost 70%
flow (or a large portion thereof).
----- Original Message -----
From: <LesDrag(at)aol.com>
Subject: Re: Rocket-List: cowl pressure
> --> Rocket-List message posted by: LesDrag(at)aol.com
>
> I never have understood why everyone used the top of the cowl for part of
the
> baffling. It causes all of the cowl surfaces to be providing upward
> pressure. (Bernoulli's on the outside top surface, "pressure" on forward
3/4
> of the inside top surface, impact pressure exceeding bernoulli's on the
> outside bottom surface, and "vacuum" on the inside bottom surface.)
>
> It is also very inefficient. In the typical Van's cowl (which is cleaner
> than most manufacturers), there is a 70% net flow loss in the air just
going
> from the air inlet to the engine cylinders.
>
> JMHO
>
> Jim Ayers
> Less Drag Products, Inc.
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
EAA Chapter 339 Fall Fly-In
Saturday, October 19, 2002, Hampton Roads Exec (PVG), Virginia, 9AM till
7PM
Hampton Roads Exec (PVG) is 27nm SW of Norfolk, Virginia (253 radial
?ORF)
AWOS 118.375
CTAF 123.0
The weather will be a perfect Virginia fall day!
Aircraft parking is off taxiway between Rwy 23 and T-Hangars East of
Airport Terminal
Schedule of Events
Fly-In Begins 9AM
Food all Day 10AM ? 3PM
Poker Run (Walk Around Field)
Project Visits on Field
Aircraft Judging 11AM ? 3PM, All Categories, Antiques, Classics,
Homebuilts, Warbirds
Social Hour 4PM
Dinner 5PM ? 7PM, BBQ Sandwiches, Chicken, Drinks
Local motels/hotels are available
For More Information
Frank Toy 757-460-3680
ftoy(at)att.net
Richard Reynolds 757-627-8743
rvreynolds(at)macs.net
EAA Chapter 339
http://home.earthlink.net/~avyator/
Hampton Roads Exec Airport
http://www.hamptonroadsexecutiveairport.com/index.html
________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Oct 03, 2002
From:
rob ray <smokyray(at)yahoo.com>
Subject:
Re: EAA Chapter 339 Fall Fly-In
Sorry I can't make it with my RV4...I live in Bama
now, but it's not that far...
Rob Ray
--- "Richard V. Reynolds" wrote:
> Reynolds"
>
> EAA Chapter 339 Fall Fly-In
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Date:
Oct 04, 2002
From:
rob ray <smokyray(at)yahoo.com>
Subject:
Re: Fw: Rocket-List: cowl pressure
If this is true, why did Nemesis, arguably the most
efficient air-cooled airplane engine combo ever built
utilize a forced air plenum, downdraft vacuum cowling?
I think Van had to compromise for MANY applications,
not just speed. If your system works, great, but do
you have 3000+ flying examples to brag on?
Rob Ray
--- "C. Rabaut" wrote:
>
>
> Okay, having said that give us the solution that
> utilizes that lost 70%
> flow (or a large portion thereof).
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <LesDrag(at)aol.com>
> To:
> Subject: Re: Rocket-List: cowl pressure
>
>
> > --> Rocket-List message posted by: LesDrag(at)aol.com
> >
> > I never have understood why everyone used the top
> of the cowl for part of
> the
> > baffling. It causes all of the cowl surfaces to
> be providing upward
> > pressure. (Bernoulli's on the outside top
> surface, "pressure" on forward
> 3/4
> > of the inside top surface, impact pressure
> exceeding bernoulli's on the
> > outside bottom surface, and "vacuum" on the inside
> bottom surface.)
> >
> > It is also very inefficient. In the typical Van's
> cowl (which is cleaner
> > than most manufacturers), there is a 70% net flow
> loss in the air just
> going
> > from the air inlet to the engine cylinders.
> >
> > JMHO
> >
> > Jim Ayers
> > Less Drag Products, Inc.
> >
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From:
"C. Rabaut" <crabaut(at)coalinga.com>
Subject:
Virus attachment
Date:
Oct 04, 2002
Hi Guys & Gals,
I just got a virus (my software caught & cleaned it) with the sender
listed as Larry Bowen and the subject listed as: "Re: RV-list: flying the
wing - SLOW FLIGHT".
Now whoever is trying to get us, is obviously subscribing to the list and
purposely copying folks' name & our subject lines in an attempt to infect
our computers. I wonder if I can lure this clown, ID him (or her), and
prosecute 'em.
The following message is directed to the "hacker"....
Okay you little spineless scum, I'm an Lt. on a local PD and I'm looking
for alittle challenge (you're about as little as I'm gonna to find). How
about you give me your best shot... and I'll see if I can't get YOU!!!
Come on let's do this.... my email address is crabaut(at)coalinga.com and I'm
set up & waitin' just for you
________________________________________________________________________________
From:
"David Magaw" <dmagaw(at)att.net>
Subject:
Re: Virus attachment
Date:
Oct 04, 2002
Whoever sent it probably didn't know he (she) did it.
Just keep your virus checker current. Sometimes a message to the sender
letting them know they have a virus helps, but a lot of the time, the
sending e-mail addresses are bogus also, which helps hide the true culpret,
whether they are knowing or not.
Dave
----- Original Message -----
From: "C. Rabaut" <crabaut(at)coalinga.com>
Subject: RV4-List: Virus attachment
>
> Hi Guys & Gals,
>
> I just got a virus (my software caught & cleaned it) with the sender
> listed as Larry Bowen and the subject listed as: "Re: RV-list: flying the
> wing - SLOW FLIGHT".
>
> Now whoever is trying to get us, is obviously subscribing to the list and
> purposely copying folks' name & our subject lines in an attempt to infect
> our computers. I wonder if I can lure this clown, ID him (or her), and
> prosecute 'em.
>
> The following message is directed to the "hacker"....
>
> Okay you little spineless scum, I'm an Lt. on a local PD and I'm
looking
> for alittle challenge (you're about as little as I'm gonna to find). How
> about you give me your best shot... and I'll see if I can't get YOU!!!
> Come on let's do this.... my email address is crabaut(at)coalinga.com and
I'm
> set up & waitin' just for you
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
From:
"Steve Mullins" <smullins(at)drury.edu>
Subject:
Bleeding Brakes
Date:
Oct 10, 2002
Hi everyone.
After having a close encounter with a hangar on our airstrip, I suppose it is
time for me do deal with that soft left brake pedal. Unfortunately, I know nothing
about how to bleed brakes (except for the obvious need to replace air with
brake fluid.)
Do I need any special tools to do this? Is the nipple (that looks like a grease
fitting) on my brake really a grease fitting, or is it used for bleeding the
brakes?
ANY tips will be greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance!
Steve Mullins, Ph.D.
Associate Professor of Economics
Drury University
417.889.5609 (home)
417.873.7299 (office)
________________________________________________________________________________
From:
"Steve Mullins" <smullins(at)drury.edu>
Subject:
Re: Bleeding Brakes
Date:
Oct 10, 2002
Another question about RV brakes. I noticed Van's sells milspec fluid which
is red. The small amount of fluid that was left in my system was not red,
more of a light oil color. Should I get the red stuff?
Thanks folks...
Steve Mullins, Ph.D.
Associate Professor of Economics
Drury University
417.889.5609 (home)
417.873.7299 (office)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Mullins" <smullins(at)drury.edu>
Subject: RV4-List: Bleeding Brakes
>
> Hi everyone.
>
> After having a close encounter with a hangar on our airstrip, I suppose
it is time for me do deal with that soft left brake pedal. Unfortunately, I
know nothing about how to bleed brakes (except for the obvious need to
replace air with brake fluid.)
>
> Do I need any special tools to do this? Is the nipple (that looks like a
grease fitting) on my brake really a grease fitting, or is it used for
bleeding the brakes?
>
> ANY tips will be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Steve Mullins, Ph.D.
> Associate Professor of Economics
> Drury University
> 417.889.5609 (home)
> 417.873.7299 (office)
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
From:
"flyseaplane" <flyseaplane(at)netzero.net>
Subject:
Bleeding Brakes
Date:
Oct 10, 2002
Dr. Mullins,
Any Mil Spec H-5606 aircraft hydraulic fluid will be fine. You can probably
get some from your friendly neighborhood A&P or FBO.
That thing that looks like a grease fitting is the bleeder screw. It should
be on the bottom of the caliper with the brake line on top. You will be
pumping fluid in from the bottom, pushing all the air bubbles out the top,
on up to the master cylinder and out the top of the master cylinder.
Get yourself a large (at least 16 ounces) pump type oil can and fill it with
the H-5606. Loosen the bleeder screw on the bottom of the caliper with a
1/4" wrench (you may need to use the box end to get it cracked loose) and
drain all the old fluid into a can or bowl. Pump that side brake pedal a few
times to get all the fluid out. Wrap a bunch of rags around the master
cylinder to catch the over flow. Use a piece of small hose to connect the
oil pump can to the bleeder screw. Have a buddy watch the master cylinder to
holler once it is full. Start pumping the oil can quickly to get all the
bubbles moved up and out and when your friend yells, then stop pumping and
tighten the screw so the fluid doesn't run out.
Some H-5606 has more red dye in it, some less. It doesn't matter. It all
turns brown after a while because the die deteriorates. Make CERTAIN that
the brake fluid now in your cylinders is not glycerin-based automotive DOT3
brake fluid - that stuff will eat all your seals and O-rings. Then you will
need to rebuild all the parts in the brake system. H-5606 is petroleum based
oil and really isn't much more than light weight motor oil. It is usually
very available locally.
Good Luck,
Linc
After having a close encounter with a hangar on our airstrip, I suppose it
is time for me do deal with that soft left brake pedal. Unfortunately, I
know nothing about how to bleed brakes (except for the obvious need to
replace air with brake fluid.)
>
> Do I need any special tools to do this? Is the nipple (that looks like a
grease fitting) on my brake really a grease fitting, or is it used for
bleeding the brakes?
>
> ANY tips will be greatly appreciated.
>
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Date:
Oct 10, 2002
From:
rob ray <smokyray(at)yahoo.com>
Subject:
Re: Bleeding Brakes
Also make sure your master cyllinders weren't
installed upside down, then the procedure below will
have to add: remove master cyllinders from pedals,
invert and then apply listed procedure...
RR
--- flyseaplane wrote:
>
>
> Dr. Mullins,
>
> Any Mil Spec H-5606 aircraft hydraulic fluid will be
> fine. You can probably
> get some from your friendly neighborhood A&P or FBO.
>
> That thing that looks like a grease fitting is the
> bleeder screw. It should
> be on the bottom of the caliper with the brake line
> on top. You will be
> pumping fluid in from the bottom, pushing all the
> air bubbles out the top,
> on up to the master cylinder and out the top of the
> master cylinder.
>
> Get yourself a large (at least 16 ounces) pump type
> oil can and fill it with
> the H-5606. Loosen the bleeder screw on the bottom
> of the caliper with a
> 1/4" wrench (you may need to use the box end to get
> it cracked loose) and
> drain all the old fluid into a can or bowl. Pump
> that side brake pedal a few
> times to get all the fluid out. Wrap a bunch of rags
> around the master
> cylinder to catch the over flow. Use a piece of
> small hose to connect the
> oil pump can to the bleeder screw. Have a buddy
> watch the master cylinder to
> holler once it is full. Start pumping the oil can
> quickly to get all the
> bubbles moved up and out and when your friend yells,
> then stop pumping and
> tighten the screw so the fluid doesn't run out.
>
> Some H-5606 has more red dye in it, some less. It
> doesn't matter. It all
> turns brown after a while because the die
> deteriorates. Make CERTAIN that
> the brake fluid now in your cylinders is not
> glycerin-based automotive DOT3
> brake fluid - that stuff will eat all your seals and
> O-rings. Then you will
> need to rebuild all the parts in the brake system.
> H-5606 is petroleum based
> oil and really isn't much more than light weight
> motor oil. It is usually
> very available locally.
>
> Good Luck,
> Linc
>
>
> After having a close encounter with a hangar on our
> airstrip, I suppose it
> is time for me do deal with that soft left brake
> pedal. Unfortunately, I
> know nothing about how to bleed brakes (except for
> the obvious need to
> replace air with brake fluid.)
> >
> > Do I need any special tools to do this? Is the
> nipple (that looks like a
> grease fitting) on my brake really a grease fitting,
> or is it used for
> bleeding the brakes?
> >
> > ANY tips will be greatly appreciated.
> >
>
>
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From:
FLYBOYRV4(at)aol.com
Date:
Oct 10, 2002
Subject:
Re: Bleeding Brakes
Steve, I bleed my brakes by filling them fron the bottom at the calipers.
Just loosen the valve a turn or so and feed into the system from there. Now
you want to know how right? Well, get yourself an oilcan that you can pump
oil out with the trigger, next take a piece of neoprene hose that will fit on
the outlet of the oil can and secure it on the can with a clamp or tywrap.
Now place the hose on the valve ( you need to have a snug fit here) Remove
the resevoir cap.Now just pump the brake fluid in and have a buddy check
the brake resevoir to let you know when it is full.(usually when it
overflows) Then tighten the valve up and your system will be full. It will
pump through the cylinder and reach the fluid resevoir.Do each side. Thats
the way I have done it and it works just fine. Put a rag below the resevoir
to catch the spilled fluid. DON'T forget to take the rag out of the engine
compartment as it could cause problems. Hope this helps,Jim RV-4 # 111
________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Oct 10, 2002
From:
Dave Anderson <DaveAnderson(at)rocketmail.com>
Subject:
Re: Bleeding Brakes
I use a glue syringe, about $1 from a hobby store.
--- FLYBOYRV4(at)aol.com wrote:
>
> Steve, I bleed my brakes by filling them fron the bottom at the
> calipers.
> Just loosen the valve a turn or so and feed into the system from
> there. Now
> you want to know how right? Well, get yourself an oilcan that you can
> pump
> oil out with the trigger, next take a piece of neoprene hose that
> will fit on
> the outlet of the oil can and secure it on the can with a clamp or
> tywrap.
> Now place the hose on the valve ( you need to have a snug fit here)
> Remove
> the resevoir cap.Now just pump the brake fluid in and have a buddy
> check
> the brake resevoir to let you know when it is full.(usually when it
> overflows) Then tighten the valve up and your system will be full. It
> will
> pump through the cylinder and reach the fluid resevoir.Do each side.
> Thats
> the way I have done it and it works just fine. Put a rag below the
> resevoir
> to catch the spilled fluid. DON'T forget to take the rag out of the
> engine
> compartment as it could cause problems. Hope this helps,Jim RV-4 #
> 111
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From:
"James Lawliss" <ARG1(at)capital.net>
Subject:
Re: Bleeding Brakes
Date:
Oct 11, 2002
Hey, rob ray, I think I once was party to actually adding auto tranny fluid
to a Citabria's brake line a few years back. Ever hear of such a thing?
Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: "rob ray" <smokyray(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: RV4-List: Bleeding Brakes
>
> Also make sure your master cyllinders weren't
> installed upside down, then the procedure below will
> have to add: remove master cyllinders from pedals,
> invert and then apply listed procedure...
>
> RR
> --- flyseaplane wrote:
> >
> >
> > Dr. Mullins,
> >
> > Any Mil Spec H-5606 aircraft hydraulic fluid will be
> > fine. You can probably
> > get some from your friendly neighborhood A&P or FBO.
> >
> > That thing that looks like a grease fitting is the
> > bleeder screw. It should
> > be on the bottom of the caliper with the brake line
> > on top. You will be
> > pumping fluid in from the bottom, pushing all the
> > air bubbles out the top,
> > on up to the master cylinder and out the top of the
> > master cylinder.
> >
> > Get yourself a large (at least 16 ounces) pump type
> > oil can and fill it with
> > the H-5606. Loosen the bleeder screw on the bottom
> > of the caliper with a
> > 1/4" wrench (you may need to use the box end to get
> > it cracked loose) and
> > drain all the old fluid into a can or bowl. Pump
> > that side brake pedal a few
> > times to get all the fluid out. Wrap a bunch of rags
> > around the master
> > cylinder to catch the over flow. Use a piece of
> > small hose to connect the
> > oil pump can to the bleeder screw. Have a buddy
> > watch the master cylinder to
> > holler once it is full. Start pumping the oil can
> > quickly to get all the
> > bubbles moved up and out and when your friend yells,
> > then stop pumping and
> > tighten the screw so the fluid doesn't run out.
> >
> > Some H-5606 has more red dye in it, some less. It
> > doesn't matter. It all
> > turns brown after a while because the die
> > deteriorates. Make CERTAIN that
> > the brake fluid now in your cylinders is not
> > glycerin-based automotive DOT3
> > brake fluid - that stuff will eat all your seals and
> > O-rings. Then you will
> > need to rebuild all the parts in the brake system.
> > H-5606 is petroleum based
> > oil and really isn't much more than light weight
> > motor oil. It is usually
> > very available locally.
> >
> > Good Luck,
> > Linc
> >
> >
> > After having a close encounter with a hangar on our
> > airstrip, I suppose it
> > is time for me do deal with that soft left brake
> > pedal. Unfortunately, I
> > know nothing about how to bleed brakes (except for
> > the obvious need to
> > replace air with brake fluid.)
> > >
> > > Do I need any special tools to do this? Is the
> > nipple (that looks like a
> > grease fitting) on my brake really a grease fitting,
> > or is it used for
> > bleeding the brakes?
> > >
> > > ANY tips will be greatly appreciated.
> > >
> >
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Date:
Oct 11, 2002
From:
Kevin Horton <khorto1537(at)rogers.com>
Subject:
Re: Bleeding Brakes
Steve,
I'm curious - did you see the large number of responses to your
questions on the RV-List to the brake bleeding question you posted on
the RV4-List? Any message posted to one of the RV model specific
list also gets posted to the main RV List. Any responses to the copy
of the message that goes to the main RV List only go to the main RV
List - they don't go back to the RV model specific list, so I would
imagine that the person who asked the original question may never see
the flurry of answers.
Kevin Horton RV-8 (cowling, wing tip lights)
Ottawa, Canada
http://members.rogers.com/khorton/rv8.html
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Steve Mullins"
>
>Another question about RV brakes. I noticed Van's sells milspec fluid which
>is red. The small amount of fluid that was left in my system was not red,
>more of a light oil color. Should I get the red stuff?
>
>Thanks folks...
>
>Steve Mullins, Ph.D.
>Associate Professor of Economics
>Drury University
>417.889.5609 (home)
>417.873.7299 (office)
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Steve Mullins" <smullins(at)drury.edu>
>To:
>Subject: RV4-List: Bleeding Brakes
>
>
>>
>> Hi everyone.
>>
>> After having a close encounter with a hangar on our airstrip, I suppose
>it is time for me do deal with that soft left brake pedal. Unfortunately, I
>know nothing about how to bleed brakes (except for the obvious need to
>replace air with brake fluid.)
>>
>> Do I need any special tools to do this? Is the nipple (that looks like a
>grease fitting) on my brake really a grease fitting, or is it used for
>bleeding the brakes?
>>
>> ANY tips will be greatly appreciated.
>>
>> Thanks in advance!
>>
>> Steve Mullins, Ph.D.
>> Associate Professor of Economics
>> Drury University
>> 417.889.5609 (home)
> > 417.873.7299 (office)
>>
> >
________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Oct 11, 2002
From:
rob ray <smokyray(at)yahoo.com>
Subject:
Re: Bleeding Brakes
Hi Jim;
Hmmmm, could be. I remember adding something even
less hydraulic and more "organic" than that one time
in a pinch. Definitely had to purge the brakes when I
got home though! The only funny part was watching this
old dude passerby as we "relieved ourselves" of brake
fluid into a coke bottle and poured it into the Scouts
resevoir....
RR
--- James Lawliss wrote:
>
>
> Hey, rob ray, I think I once was party to actually
> adding auto tranny fluid
> to a Citabria's brake line a few years back. Ever
> hear of such a thing?
> Jim
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "rob ray" <smokyray(at)yahoo.com>
> To:
> Subject: Re: RV4-List: Bleeding Brakes
>
>
>
> >
> > Also make sure your master cyllinders weren't
> > installed upside down, then the procedure below
> will
> > have to add: remove master cyllinders from pedals,
> > invert and then apply listed procedure...
> >
> > RR
> > --- flyseaplane wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > Dr. Mullins,
> > >
> > > Any Mil Spec H-5606 aircraft hydraulic fluid
> will be
> > > fine. You can probably
> > > get some from your friendly neighborhood A&P or
> FBO.
> > >
> > > That thing that looks like a grease fitting is
> the
> > > bleeder screw. It should
> > > be on the bottom of the caliper with the brake
> line
> > > on top. You will be
> > > pumping fluid in from the bottom, pushing all
> the
> > > air bubbles out the top,
> > > on up to the master cylinder and out the top of
> the
> > > master cylinder.
> > >
> > > Get yourself a large (at least 16 ounces) pump
> type
> > > oil can and fill it with
> > > the H-5606. Loosen the bleeder screw on the
> bottom
> > > of the caliper with a
> > > 1/4" wrench (you may need to use the box end to
> get
> > > it cracked loose) and
> > > drain all the old fluid into a can or bowl. Pump
> > > that side brake pedal a few
> > > times to get all the fluid out. Wrap a bunch of
> rags
> > > around the master
> > > cylinder to catch the over flow. Use a piece of
> > > small hose to connect the
> > > oil pump can to the bleeder screw. Have a buddy
> > > watch the master cylinder to
> > > holler once it is full. Start pumping the oil
> can
> > > quickly to get all the
> > > bubbles moved up and out and when your friend
> yells,
> > > then stop pumping and
> > > tighten the screw so the fluid doesn't run out.
> > >
> > > Some H-5606 has more red dye in it, some less.
> It
> > > doesn't matter. It all
> > > turns brown after a while because the die
> > > deteriorates. Make CERTAIN that
> > > the brake fluid now in your cylinders is not
> > > glycerin-based automotive DOT3
> > > brake fluid - that stuff will eat all your seals
> and
> > > O-rings. Then you will
> > > need to rebuild all the parts in the brake
> system.
> > > H-5606 is petroleum based
> > > oil and really isn't much more than light weight
> > > motor oil. It is usually
> > > very available locally.
> > >
> > > Good Luck,
> > > Linc
> > >
> > >
> > > After having a close encounter with a hangar on
> our
> > > airstrip, I suppose it
> > > is time for me do deal with that soft left brake
> > > pedal. Unfortunately, I
> > > know nothing about how to bleed brakes (except
> for
> > > the obvious need to
> > > replace air with brake fluid.)
> > > >
> > > > Do I need any special tools to do this? Is the
> > > nipple (that looks like a
> > > grease fitting) on my brake really a grease
> fitting,
> > > or is it used for
> > > bleeding the brakes?
> > > >
> > > > ANY tips will be greatly appreciated.
> > > >
> > >
> > >
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From:
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Subject:
Bleeding Brakes
Date:
Oct 11, 2002
Hey Jim Lawless,
Yes, you can use ATF in a pinch. It will work fine, but it is thinner than
H-5606 so it will leak easier if you have a weak O-ring, or a sloppy master
cylinder won't pump as hard, but those are WORST CASE scenarios. It
shouldn't hurt a thing.
> to a Citabria's brake line a few years back. Ever hear of such a thing?
> Jim
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From:
"Steve Mullins" <smullins(at)drury.edu>
Subject:
Re: Bleeding Brakes
Date:
Oct 12, 2002
Thanks to everyone who provided tips about bleeding my brakes....this list
is worth a million bucks!!!
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Associate Professor of Economics
Drury University
417.889.5609 (home)
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________________________________________________________________________________
From:
"Dave Cooke" <pitot(at)norlight.org>
Subject:
402 Weldments
Date:
Oct 12, 2002
It appears that I must trim about 1/4 inch from the skin side of the base plate
of the 402 weldments in order to make the sides of the longerons close enough
to the skin line to rivet the skin to the longerons and legs of the weldment.
This is a very critical area since the engine mount bolts go through these plates.
Is there anyone else who is having or who remembers having this problem?
If so, how did it work out?
Dave Cooke
North Idaho
Fuselage
________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Oct 13, 2002
From:
Roger Crandell <rwc(at)swcp.com>
Subject:
For Sale: new Van's FP-12 spinner kit
For sale. Van's FP-12, 12" spinner kit for wooden prop. Has 12 inch rear bulkhead.
New in box.
$105 new from Vans, will sell for $80 including shipping. COD extra.
Roger
________________________________________________________________________________
From:
"Tom and Faye" <tcrupe(at)ridgenet.net>
Subject:
Re: 402 Weldments
Date:
Oct 13, 2002
Dave,
I just replaced the 402 and 403 old style brackets in my aircraft S/N 62.
They fit almost perfect. Check the dimensions of the brackets with the
numbers on sheet 34 of the plans, if you haven't already. There may have
been a mistake in the manufacture of the brackets. If not that, I would not
have a clue. They should just lay right in there. Hopefully some else may
have and answer.
Tom Rupe
S/N 62
----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Cooke" <pitot(at)norlight.org>
Subject: RV4-List: 402 Weldments
>
> It appears that I must trim about 1/4 inch from the skin side of the base
plate of the 402 weldments in order to make the sides of the longerons close
enough to the skin line to rivet the skin to the longerons and legs of the
weldment. This is a very critical area since the engine mount bolts go
through these plates. Is there anyone else who is having or who remembers
having this problem? If so, how did it work out?
>
> Dave Cooke
>
> North Idaho
>
> Fuselage
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Oct 13, 2002
From:
Greg Hunsicker <gh2538(at)cjnetworks.com>
Subject:
firewall corners buckling
Has anyone had experience with the lower firewall corners buckling
slightly? My RV-4 0-320 150HP had cracks in the motor mount around the
lower and middle weldments next to the firewall area. I had gussets
welded to this mount and it should be stronger than ever but now do I
need to replace the buckled skin in these lower corners or just
straighten them back out as best can and put the bird back together? I
have inspected inside the fuselage at all 6 bolt areas and find nothing
that looks wrong. Any suggestions would be appreciated as it has now
been about 30 days since airworthy and I am going crazy sitting here on
deck.
Greg Hunsicker
Sunset Strip Airpark 90KS
Berryton, KS
________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Oct 14, 2002
From:
"Bill Gunn" <WGUNN(at)dot.state.tx.us>
Subject:
Re: firewall corners buckling
I have an RV-4 with 1310 hours, 1301 flown with an 0-320 F/P prop. When I bought
the aircraft in 1996 it had 525 hours and a 1 " long wrinkle along the (pilot's)
left firewall step vertical bend about 2/3 of the way from the top of the
step out. At 850 or so hours I had a 1/4 "crack in the engine mount cluster by
the left landing gear rod mounting tube - repaired by TIG welding. The 1 " wrinkle
never grew or changed. I just reengined with a new mount (conical to dynafocal)
0-360 and C/S prop. I straightened the wrinkle as best possible while
modifying the firewall. Bottom line, check it, but don't worry about it.
>>> gh2538(at)cjnetworks.com 10/13/02 08:04PM >>>
Has anyone had experience with the lower firewall corners buckling
slightly? My RV-4 0-320 150HP had cracks in the motor mount around the
lower and middle weldments next to the firewall area. I had gussets
welded to this mount and it should be stronger than ever but now do I
need to replace the buckled skin in these lower corners or just
straighten them back out as best can and put the bird back together? I
have inspected inside the fuselage at all 6 bolt areas and find nothing
that looks wrong. Any suggestions would be appreciated as it has now
been about 30 days since airworthy and I am going crazy sitting here on
deck.
Greg Hunsicker
Sunset Strip Airpark 90KS
Berryton, KS
________________________________________________________________________________
From:
Melvinke(at)aol.com
Date:
Oct 14, 2002
Subject:
Re: firewall corners buckling
For me the buckling of the lower corners of the firewall meant cracked
weldments. I assume that you have examined those carefully.
________________________________________________________________________________
From:
"Gene Smith" <esmith6(at)satx.rr.com>
Subject:
Cracked Engine Mount Weldments
Date:
Oct 14, 2002
JKL Greg,
This is probably all wrong, but something for all of us to think about......you
wrote, "cracks in the motor mount around the lower and middle weldments
next to the firewall area. I had gussets welded to this mount and it should be
stronger than ever."
I might suggest that welding the mounts may have caused the "temper" to be
changed either softer or harder, which could cause excess movement, or not enough,
which possibly could cause the skin in that area to buckle. For a critical
area such as the engine mounts, I don't think I would let anyone weld them
unless they were a Certified Aircraft Welder, because that heat has to be perfect
for that type of metal.
There is one other thing to think about......If there were no hard landings,
maybe crosswinds during landing or takeoff could be responsible. Crosswinds
can cause incredible side loads and torsion on all aspects of our landing gear
system and this is transferred throughout the entire attached area of the fuselage......take
a look at your tires after a good bout with a crosswind, and
think about all the rudder "kicking" that took place to just stay on the runway..........CHEERS!!!!!!
jK
________________________________________________________________________________
From:
"Richard Bibb" <richard.bibb(at)verizon.net>
Subject:
Re: Cracked Engine Mount Weldments
Date:
Oct 14, 2002
Operation from rough field can add to the stress. As for crosswind
landings - work on technique - you ought to ba able to touch down one wing
low if necessary to avoid landing in a crab with resulting big swerve/side
loads....
Richard
RV-4 N144KT ( Rebuilding and installing new canopy)
________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Oct 14, 2002
From:
Greg Hunsicker <gh2538(at)cjnetworks.com>
Subject:
Re: Cracked Engine Mount Weldments
I had the mount tig welded as per Vans directions. I do appreciate your
thoughts though on the subject. In my case I had a couple pretty hard
landings doing some very short field practice. For my sake I am glad
that my practice has been made perfect.
Greg Hunsicker
Gene Smith wrote:
>
>JKL Greg,
> This is probably all wrong, but something for all of us to think about......you
wrote, "cracks in the motor mount around the lower and middle weldments
next to the firewall area. I had gussets welded to this mount and it should
be stronger than ever."
> I might suggest that welding the mounts may have caused the "temper" to
be changed either softer or harder, which could cause excess movement, or not
enough, which possibly could cause the skin in that area to buckle. For a critical
area such as the engine mounts, I don't think I would let anyone weld them
unless they were a Certified Aircraft Welder, because that heat has to be perfect
for that type of metal.
> There is one other thing to think about......If there were no hard landings,
maybe crosswinds during landing or takeoff could be responsible. Crosswinds
can cause incredible side loads and torsion on all aspects of our landing gear
system and this is transferred throughout the entire attached area of the
fuselage......take a look at your tires after a good bout with a crosswind, and
think about all the rudder "kicking" that took place to just stay on the runway..........CHEERS!!!!!!
jK
>
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
From:
"C. Rabaut" <crabaut(at)coalinga.com>
Subject:
Cracked Engine Mount Weldments
Date:
Oct 14, 2002
In addition to all that Gene listed below... RV-4's firewalls have a
tendency to buckle.
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene Smith <esmith6(at)satx.rr.com>
Subject: RV4-List: Cracked Engine Mount Weldments
>
> JKL Greg,
> This is probably all wrong, but something for all of us to think
about......you wrote, "cracks in the motor mount around the lower and middle
weldments next to the firewall area. I had gussets welded to this mount and
it should be stronger than ever."
> I might suggest that welding the mounts may have caused the "temper"
to be changed either softer or harder, which could cause excess movement, or
not enough, which possibly could cause the skin in that area to buckle. For
a critical area such as the engine mounts, I don't think I would let anyone
weld them unless they were a Certified Aircraft Welder, because that heat
has to be perfect for that type of metal.
> There is one other thing to think about......If there were no hard
landings, maybe crosswinds during landing or takeoff could be responsible.
Crosswinds can cause incredible side loads and torsion on all aspects of our
landing gear system and this is transferred throughout the entire attached
area of the fuselage......take a look at your tires after a good bout with a
crosswind, and think about all the rudder "kicking" that took place to just
stay on the runway..........CHEERS!!!!!! jK
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
From:
"Hank Landman" <pukndg(at)mindspring.com>
Subject:
RV-4 Spinner and Prop Extension
Date:
Oct 15, 2002
Hello All,
I own an older RV-4 (#4) fitted with a wooden prop. The aircraft was built with
a metal fixed pitch prop and then converted to the wooden one. A 4" prop extension
was installed which created a 1.5 inch gap between the cowling and the
spinner. I am looking to purchase (new or used) a 3" extension (6 hole, 7/16"
bolt) and 13" diameter spinner. I would like a high aspect ratio spinner, preferably
with a fairly sharp pointed nose. If anyone has such a spinner/extension
for sale or could lead me to a source, please advise.
Regards,
Hank Landman
________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Oct 15, 2002
From:
rob ray <smokyray(at)yahoo.com>
Subject:
Re: RV-4 Spinner and Prop Extension
Hank;
It sounds like you have a newer Constant speed
cowling with a 4" extension for the older cowling. You
can still buy a 2" extension drilled for 7/16 bolts
from Van's and accomplish the mission. Aircraft Spruce
has the spinner you desire..
Rob Ray
--- Hank Landman wrote:
>
>
> Hello All,
>
> I own an older RV-4 (#4) fitted with a wooden prop.
> The aircraft was built with a metal fixed pitch prop
> and then converted to the wooden one. A 4" prop
> extension was installed which created a 1.5 inch gap
> between the cowling and the spinner. I am looking
> to purchase (new or used) a 3" extension (6 hole,
> 7/16" bolt) and 13" diameter spinner. I would like
> a high aspect ratio spinner, preferably with a
> fairly sharp pointed nose. If anyone has such a
> spinner/extension for sale or could lead me to a
> source, please advise.
>
> Regards,
>
> Hank Landman
>
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Date:
Oct 15, 2002
From:
rob ray <smokyray(at)yahoo.com>
Subject:
Re: Cracked Engine Mount Weldments
Yes, they do, unless you build it with .040 fuselage
sides to begin with...check for cracks at the lower
corners of the firewall below the ldg gear attch
points on your annual...
RR
--- "C. Rabaut" wrote:
>
>
> In addition to all that Gene listed below... RV-4's
> firewalls have a
> tendency to buckle.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Gene Smith <esmith6(at)satx.rr.com>
> To: rv4-list
> Subject: RV4-List: Cracked Engine Mount Weldments
>
>
>
> >
> > JKL Greg,
> > This is probably all wrong, but something for
> all of us to think
> about......you wrote, "cracks in the motor mount
> around the lower and middle
> weldments next to the firewall area. I had gussets
> welded to this mount and
> it should be stronger than ever."
> > I might suggest that welding the mounts may
> have caused the "temper"
> to be changed either softer or harder, which could
> cause excess movement, or
> not enough, which possibly could cause the skin in
> that area to buckle. For
> a critical area such as the engine mounts, I don't
> think I would let anyone
> weld them unless they were a Certified Aircraft
> Welder, because that heat
> has to be perfect for that type of metal.
> > There is one other thing to think
> about......If there were no hard
> landings, maybe crosswinds during landing or takeoff
> could be responsible.
> Crosswinds can cause incredible side loads and
> torsion on all aspects of our
> landing gear system and this is transferred
> throughout the entire attached
> area of the fuselage......take a look at your tires
> after a good bout with a
> crosswind, and think about all the rudder "kicking"
> that took place to just
> stay on the runway..........CHEERS!!!!!! jK
> >
> >
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Date:
Oct 15, 2002
From:
rob ray <smokyray(at)yahoo.com>
Subject:
Re: Cracked Engine Mount Weldments
Amen on the rough strip. Mine is 900' long and rough.
No mount cracks yet, but my firewall has hairline
cracks below the mounts...
Rob Ray
--- Richard Bibb wrote:
>
>
> Operation from rough field can add to the stress.
> As for crosswind
> landings - work on technique - you ought to ba able
> to touch down one wing
> low if necessary to avoid landing in a crab with
> resulting big swerve/side
> loads....
>
> Richard
> RV-4 N144KT ( Rebuilding and installing new canopy)
>
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EAA Chapter 339 Fall Fly-In
Saturday, October 19, 2002, Hampton Roads Exec (PVG), Virginia, 9AM till
7PM
Hampton Roads Exec (PVG) is 13.5nm SW of Norfolk, Virginia (253 radial
(ORF)
AWOS 118.375
CTAF 123.0
The weather will really be a perfect Virginia fall day!
Aircraft parking is off taxiway between Rwy 23 and T-Hangars East of
Airport Terminal
Schedule of Events
Fly-In Begins 9AM
Food all Day 10AM - 3PM
Poker Run (Walk Around Field)
Project Visits on Field
Aircraft Judging 11AM - 3PM, All Categories, Antiques, Classics,
Homebuilts, Warbirds
Social Hour 4PM
Dinner 5PM - 7PM, BBQ Sandwiches, Chicken, Drinks
Local motels/hotels are available
For More Information
Frank Toy 757-460-3680
ftoy(at)att.net
Richard Reynolds 757-627-8743
rvreynolds(at)macs.net
EAA Chapter 339
http://home.earthlink.net/~avyator/
Hampton Roads Exec Airport
http://www.hamptonroadsexecutiveairport.com/index.html
________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Oct 15, 2002
From:
rob ray <smokyray(at)yahoo.com>
Subject:
Re: EAA Chapter 339 Fall Fly-In
I might just make it!
RR
--- "Richard V. Reynolds" wrote:
> Reynolds"
>
> EAA Chapter 339 Fall Fly-In
>
> Saturday, October 19, 2002, Hampton Roads Exec
> (PVG), Virginia, 9AM till
> 7PM
> Hampton Roads Exec (PVG) is 13.5nm SW of Norfolk,
> Virginia (253 radial
> (ORF)
> AWOS 118.375
> CTAF 123.0
>
> The weather will really be a perfect Virginia fall
> day!
>
> Aircraft parking is off taxiway between Rwy 23 and
> T-Hangars East of
> Airport Terminal
>
> Schedule of Events
> Fly-In Begins 9AM
> Food all Day 10AM - 3PM
> Poker Run (Walk Around Field)
> Project Visits on Field
> Aircraft Judging 11AM - 3PM, All Categories,
> Antiques, Classics,
> Homebuilts, Warbirds
> Social Hour 4PM
> Dinner 5PM - 7PM, BBQ Sandwiches, Chicken, Drinks
>
> Local motels/hotels are available
> For More Information
>
> Frank Toy 757-460-3680
> ftoy(at)att.net
> Richard Reynolds 757-627-8743
> rvreynolds(at)macs.net
> EAA Chapter 339
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From:
MeangreenRV4(at)aol.com
Date:
Oct 16, 2002
Subject:
Re: URGENT BUSINESS PROPOSAL
In a message dated 10/15/2002 8:26:07 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
chukwuebuka02uc(at)yahoo.com writes:
> chukwuebuka02uc(at)yahoo.com>
>
> DR.EBUKA D AGUSON
>
> FEDERAL MINISTRY OF PETROLUEM RESOURCES(F.M.P.R)
>
> LAGOS NIGERIA.
>
> ATTN:SIR,
>
> REQUEST FOR ASSISTANCE- STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL
>
> I am Dr EBUKA AGUSON, an accountant in the Ministry of
> petroleum Resources (MPR) and a member of a
> three-man Tender Board in charge of contract review
> and payment approvals. I came to know of you in my
> search for a reliable person to handle a very
> confidential transaction that involves the transfer of
> a huge sum of money to a foreign account. It may
> sound strange but exercise patience and read on.
>
> There were series of contracts executed by a
> consortium Multinational in the Oil industry in favor
> of Ministry of Petroleum Resources among which were:
>
> 1. The extension of pipeline network within Nigeria
> for crude oil, Down stream products distribution and
> subsequent evacuation- US$ 195 Million.
>
> 2. Contract for the Turn Around Maintenance (TAM) of
> the various refineries in the country~ US$ 152
> Million.
>
> 3. The construction of storage tanks for petroleum
> products (Depots) US$240 Million.
>
> The original values of this contract were deliberately
> over invoiced to the sum of US $35.5million American
> Dollars which has now been approved and is now ready
> to be transferred being that the companies
> that actually executed these contracts has been fully
> paid and project officially commissioned.
> consequently, my colleagues and I are willing to
> transfer the total amount to your account for
> subsequent disbursement since we are Civil Servant
> and are prohibited by the Code of Conduct Bureau
> (Civil Servant Laws) from opening operating foreign
> account in our names. Needless to say, the trust posed
> on you at this juncture is enormous. In return, we
> have agreed to offer you 30% of the transferred sum
> while 10% shall be set aside for accidental expenses
> (Internal & External) between the parties in the
> course of the transfer. We will mandate you to draw
> up an investment plan for us of which you will
> control since we cannot bring our shares back to
> Nigeria. We are very interested in investing in real
> estate in your country. You must however note that
> this transaction is subjected to the following terms
> and conditions:
>
> 1. Our conviction of your transparent honesty and
> diligence.
>
> 2. That you would treat this transaction with utmost
> secrecy and confidentiality because of the
> circumstances we now find ourselves.
>
> 3. That the funds would be transferred to an account
> over which you have absolute control. Modalities
> have been worked out at the highest level of the
> presidency at the Central Bank of Nigeria for the
> immediate transfer of the funds within 14 working
> days, subject to your satisfaction of the above stated
> terms. Our assurance is that your role is 100% risk
> free. To accord this transaction, the legality it
> deserves and for mutual security of the parties
> involved and the funds, the whole approval procedures
> will be officially and legally processed with your
> name or the name of your company you may nominate
> as the bonafide beneficiary. Also, be informed that
> our main reason of contacting you is for the obvious
> reason that we will want to invest these funds in the
> real estate. It is our believe that you can be of
> immense help in this regards.
>
> Kindly expedite action so as to enable us include this
> transaction into this batch as payment to foreign
> contractors is usually carried out on quarterly
> basis.
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> DR.EBUKA D AGUSON
>
>
Hey I am transparently honest....Sure, hot damm....where do I sign
up?.....who can I send all my money to? I can take my net worth plus my kids
college fund, cash in my 401K, barrow some cash from my sister, fly every
other weekend instead of every week, wow! what a deal! This is the best
internet offer yet! This must be a true deal because the offer is from a real
Doctor with one hell of a title on the RV list...I am so excited now I might
be able to really afford my RV-4 and be just like all those guys I fly with,
they all have endless amounts of cash and multiple paid off credit cards,
this is triple bitchen man! I am ready!...........................lets see!
..........I have $ 139.42 lets get started. I do have just one
question.......................Do you need all of that at once or can I make
payments.
Tim Barnes
Meangreen RV-4
________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Oct 16, 2002
From:
rob ray <smokyray(at)yahoo.com>
Subject:
Re: URGENT BUSINESS PROPOSAL
How do you spell, IMCLONE....What does this have to do
with RV4's?
RR
--- "DR.EBUKA D AGUSON"
wrote:
> AGUSON"
>
> DR.EBUKA D AGUSON
>
> FEDERAL MINISTRY OF PETROLUEM RESOURCES(F.M.P.R)
>
> LAGOS NIGERIA.
>
> ATTN:SIR,
>
> REQUEST FOR ASSISTANCE-
> STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL
>
> I am Dr EBUKA AGUSON, an accountant in the Ministry
> of
> petroleum Resources (MPR) and a member of a
> three-man Tender Board in charge of contract review
> and payment approvals. I came to know of you in my
> search for a reliable person to handle a very
> confidential transaction that involves the transfer
> of
> a huge sum of money to a foreign account. It may
> sound strange but exercise patience and read on.
>
> There were series of contracts executed by a
> consortium Multinational in the Oil industry in
> favor
> of Ministry of Petroleum Resources among which
> were:
>
> 1. The extension of pipeline network within Nigeria
> for crude oil, Down stream products distribution
> and
> subsequent evacuation- US$ 195 Million.
>
> 2. Contract for the Turn Around Maintenance (TAM) of
> the various refineries in the country~ US$ 152
> Million.
>
> 3. The construction of storage tanks for petroleum
> products (Depots) US$240 Million.
>
> The original values of this contract were
> deliberately
> over invoiced to the sum of US $35.5million
> American
> Dollars which has now been approved and is now
> ready
> to be transferred being that the companies
> that actually executed these contracts has been
> fully
> paid and project officially commissioned.
> consequently, my colleagues and I are willing to
> transfer the total amount to your account for
> subsequent disbursement since we are Civil Servant
> and are prohibited by the Code of Conduct Bureau
> (Civil Servant Laws) from opening operating foreign
> account in our names. Needless to say, the trust
> posed
> on you at this juncture is enormous. In return, we
> have agreed to offer you 30% of the transferred sum
> while 10% shall be set aside for accidental
> expenses
> (Internal & External) between the parties in the
> course of the transfer. We will mandate you to draw
> up an investment plan for us of which you will
> control since we cannot bring our shares back to
> Nigeria. We are very interested in investing in real
> estate in your country. You must however note that
> this transaction is subjected to the following
> terms
> and conditions:
>
> 1. Our conviction of your transparent honesty and
> diligence.
>
> 2. That you would treat this transaction with utmost
> secrecy and confidentiality because of the
> circumstances we now find ourselves.
>
> 3. That the funds would be transferred to an account
> over which you have absolute control. Modalities
> have been worked out at the highest level of the
> presidency at the Central Bank of Nigeria for the
> immediate transfer of the funds within 14 working
> days, subject to your satisfaction of the above
> stated
> terms. Our assurance is that your role is 100% risk
> free. To accord this transaction, the legality it
> deserves and for mutual security of the parties
> involved and the funds, the whole approval
> procedures
> will be officially and legally processed with your
> name or the name of your company you may nominate
> as the bonafide beneficiary. Also, be informed
> that
> our main reason of contacting you is for the
> obvious
> reason that we will want to invest these funds in
> the
> real estate. It is our believe that you can be of
> immense help in this regards.
>
> Kindly expedite action so as to enable us include
> this
> transaction into this batch as payment to foreign
> contractors is usually carried out on quarterly
> basis.
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> DR.EBUKA D AGUSON
>
>
>
>
>
>
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From:
"Murphy, Richard James (Rick)" <rjmurphy1(at)lucent.com>
Subject:
URGENT BUSINESS PROPOSAL
Date:
Oct 16, 2002
If you guys haven't seen this before it is a big time web scam. New twist on an
aold sham. They just want to deposit a large sum of money into your bank account
(of course they need the acct number)and you get to keep the interest. Cept
when you go back to look at your balance, there is no money there, not theirs,
not yours, nothing. They bomb the web with this message hoping to get 1 out
of 1000 to respond. Best defense is to hit the delete key.
A twist on this scheme is that they pose as the Aviation Minister in Charge of
Disposal of Surplus Aircraft for East BumbDiddy and have 10 P51's (or somesuch)
in the crate since 1951 to dispose of and need a US import rep. IF you put up
the ($10,000) import bond, you get to (keep/have a share etc) in one airplane.
Delete, Delete, Delete. Don't even answer these people back.
Rick Murphy
-----Original Message-----
From: rob ray [mailto:smokyray(at)yahoo.com]
Subject: Re: RV4-List: URGENT BUSINESS PROPOSAL
How do you spell, IMCLONE....What does this have to do
with RV4's?
RR
--- "DR.EBUKA D AGUSON"
wrote:
> AGUSON"
>
> DR.EBUKA D AGUSON
>
> FEDERAL MINISTRY OF PETROLUEM RESOURCES(F.M.P.R)
>
> LAGOS NIGERIA.
>
> ATTN:SIR,
>
> REQUEST FOR ASSISTANCE-
> STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL
>
> I am Dr EBUKA AGUSON, an accountant in the Ministry
> of
> petroleum Resources (MPR) and a member of a
> three-man Tender Board in charge of contract review
> and payment approvals. I came to know of you in my
> search for a reliable person to handle a very
> confidential transaction that involves the transfer
> of
> a huge sum of money to a foreign account. It may
> sound strange but exercise patience and read on.
>
> There were series of contracts executed by a
> consortium Multinational in the Oil industry in
> favor
> of Ministry of Petroleum Resources among which
> were:
>
> 1. The extension of pipeline network within Nigeria
> for crude oil, Down stream products distribution
> and
> subsequent evacuation- US$ 195 Million.
>
> 2. Contract for the Turn Around Maintenance (TAM) of
> the various refineries in the country~ US$ 152
> Million.
>
> 3. The construction of storage tanks for petroleum
> products (Depots) US$240 Million.
>
> The original values of this contract were
> deliberately
> over invoiced to the sum of US $35.5million
> American
> Dollars which has now been approved and is now
> ready
> to be transferred being that the companies
> that actually executed these contracts has been
> fully
> paid and project officially commissioned.
> consequently, my colleagues and I are willing to
> transfer the total amount to your account for
> subsequent disbursement since we are Civil Servant
> and are prohibited by the Code of Conduct Bureau
> (Civil Servant Laws) from opening operating foreign
> account in our names. Needless to say, the trust
> posed
> on you at this juncture is enormous. In return, we
> have agreed to offer you 30% of the transferred sum
> while 10% shall be set aside for accidental
> expenses
> (Internal & External) between the parties in the
> course of the transfer. We will mandate you to draw
> up an investment plan for us of which you will
> control since we cannot bring our shares back to
> Nigeria. We are very interested in investing in real
> estate in your country. You must however note that
> this transaction is subjected to the following
> terms
> and conditions:
>
> 1. Our conviction of your transparent honesty and
> diligence.
>
> 2. That you would treat this transaction with utmost
> secrecy and confidentiality because of the
> circumstances we now find ourselves.
>
> 3. That the funds would be transferred to an account
> over which you have absolute control. Modalities
> have been worked out at the highest level of the
> presidency at the Central Bank of Nigeria for the
> immediate transfer of the funds within 14 working
> days, subject to your satisfaction of the above
> stated
> terms. Our assurance is that your role is 100% risk
> free. To accord this transaction, the legality it
> deserves and for mutual security of the parties
> involved and the funds, the whole approval
> procedures
> will be officially and legally processed with your
> name or the name of your company you may nominate
> as the bonafide beneficiary. Also, be informed
> that
> our main reason of contacting you is for the
> obvious
> reason that we will want to invest these funds in
> the
> real estate. It is our believe that you can be of
> immense help in this regards.
>
> Kindly expedite action so as to enable us include
> this
> transaction into this batch as payment to foreign
> contractors is usually carried out on quarterly
> basis.
>
>
> Best regards,
>
> DR.EBUKA D AGUSON
>
>
>
>
>
>
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http://faith.yahoo.com
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Date:
Oct 16, 2002
From:
rob ray <smokyray(at)yahoo.com>
Subject:
Re: Cracked Engine Mount Weldments
Note: forwarded message attached.
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Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2002 19:18:11 -0500
From: arvil(at)bellsouth.net
Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: RV4-List: Cracked Engine Mount Weldments
Rob,
under normal or even rough landings the mounts should not crack'
The early engine mount brackets at the upper and lower corners were
first fused welded by vans supplyer, by that I mean the to parts were
layed togather and useing a heliarc welder heated so the metal would
melt or fuse togather with no filler rod added this makes for a real
perty weld
and a week joint at the point where the two metals join togather , Vans
has now went to a little thicker metal on the mount brackets and filler
weld is added to the bracket as it is being welded, tho this has solved
most of the cracking it has not stoped the mount brackets from being
damaged from hard landings, to help reduce the damage from accruing
angel gusets should be added two to each corner at 90 drgees to each
other and a large washer on the inside of the mount bracket to help keep
the bolt from dishing the mount face where the bolt go,s through the
motor mount bracket ,fire wall and motor mount, I also recommen putting
the bolt through the motor mount bracket from the inside so the threads
are faceing forward and extend through the motor mount boss this keeps
the threads from being in the location of the highest stress point and
less likly to snap a bolt on a hard landing
Arvil
rob ray wrote:
>
> Note: forwarded message attached.
>
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> Subject: Re: RV4-List: Cracked Engine Mount Weldments
> Date: Mon, 14 Oct 2002 19:06:26 -0500
> From: Greg Hunsicker <gh2538(at)cjnetworks.com>
> Reply-To: rv4-list(at)matronics.com
> To: rv4-list(at)matronics.com
>
>
> I had the mount tig welded as per Vans directions. I do appreciate your
> thoughts though on the subject. In my case I had a couple pretty hard
> landings doing some very short field practice. For my sake I am glad
> that my practice has been made perfect.
>
> Greg Hunsicker
>
> Gene Smith wrote:
>
> >
> >JKL Greg,
> > This is probably all wrong, but something for all of us to think about......you
wrote, "cracks in the motor mount around the lower and middle weldments
next to the firewall area. I had gussets welded to this mount and it should
be stronger than ever."
> > I might suggest that welding the mounts may have caused the "temper" to
be changed either softer or harder, which could cause excess movement, or not
enough, which possibly could cause the skin in that area to buckle. For a critical
area such as the engine mounts, I don't think I would let anyone weld
them unless they were a Certified Aircraft Welder, because that heat has to be
perfect for that type of metal.
> > There is one other thing to think about......If there were no hard landings,
maybe crosswinds during landing or takeoff could be responsible. Crosswinds
can cause incredible side loads and torsion on all aspects of our landing
gear system and this is transferred throughout the entire attached area of the
fuselage......take a look at your tires after a good bout with a crosswind,
and think about all the rudder "kicking" that took place to just stay on the runway..........CHEERS!!!!!!
jK
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
________________________________________________________________________________
Kevin's right, except for the RV7, RV9, and RV10 Lists. The way its
been set up is when someone posts to the RV3, RV4, RV6, and RV8 Lists
a copy is automatically sent to the RV-List too. For some reason, the
7/9/10 lists weren't configured that way; probably because I added
them later and forgot that about the forwarding.
In anycase, for now I've added the forward feature the 7/9/10 Lists to keep
everything consistant.
However, I don't have a stong preference either way, actually. I can
see pros and cons to each. Would people prefer the not-forwarding
operation? Sounds like it they might...
So let's vote! Drop me an email at:
dralle(at)matronics.com
with a simple:
"Forward"
or
"Don't Forward"
in the Subject Line. I'll added up the votes in a couple of days and
announce the new method.
Matt Dralle
List Admin.
>--------------
>--> RV-List message posted by: Kevin Horton
>
>Gary,
>
>Sorry, I have to respectfully disagree here. I am a member of Matt's
>RV8-list and the RV-list. If I post a message to the RV8-list, I get
>two copies - one that comes from the RV8-list, and a copy that comes
>across on the main RV-list.
>
>I just checked my Out Box - my message to Steve was sent to the
>RV4-List only. The copy you replied too seems to have come from the
>main RV-List.
>
>Search the RV-List archives for the text " New Specific RV Lists Auto
>Forwarded to RV-List" (don't include the quote marks. You'll find
>Matt's description of how the system works. I believe it causes
>confusion, because a lot of people on the main RV-List don't
>understand that they need study the original message to see where it
>originated, and send their response to the message to the correct
>list. Otherwise, the original poster may not see the response. But,
>Matt likes it the way it is, and these are his lists.
>
>Kevin
>
>>--> RV-List message posted by: "Gary"
>>
>>Kevin.....actually, messages posted to model-specific Matronics
>>lists do not automatically post to the RV list. You can post to any
>>list or combination of lists you like, but you have to send it to
>>the ones you want it to show up on.
>>
>>Gary
>>
>>From: Kevin Horton <khorto1537(at)rogers.com>
>>Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: RV4-List: Bleeding Brakes
>>
>>--> RV-List message posted by: Kevin Horton
>>
>>Steve,
>>
>>.................. Any message posted to one of the RV model specific
>>list also gets posted to the main RV List. Any responses to the copy
>>of the message that goes to the main RV List only go to the main RV
>>List - they don't go back to the RV model specific list, ...............
>
>
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________________________________________________________________________________
From:
rv4joe(at)sofnet.com
Subject:
RV4 Project for Sale
Date:
Oct 17, 2002
Have a 4 project partially completed. Hoped to finish it,
but life situation changed. If interested, it is drop me a
line here or at rv4joe(at)sofnet.com. Located in southwest MO.
email pics on request.
________________________________________________________________________________
From:
"Michael Pilla" <mpilla(at)maine.rr.com>
Subject:
FS: RV-4 Project (Southern Coastal Maine)
Date:
Oct 19, 2002
Reluctantly, I have decided that I must sell my RV-4 project. It is at the
proverbial 90% done, 90% remaining stage; i.e., all the major construction
has been finished.
The fuse is on the gear, wings are finished and primed, engine hung. The
cowling needs to be mounted and the final mating of the wings to the fuse
needs to be done. Nothing has been done on the instrument panel, but there
are several instruments waiting to be placed into the panel. I have a
Vision Microsystem for the RPM/Manifold/Fuel, etc. I also have two brand
new orphaned Terra units: the COM and XPNDR (with Mode S mod). The
starter/alternator are installed along with the battery and starter
solenoids following Electric Bob's instructions.
The project is located in Southern Maine, about 70 miles North of Boston or
16 miles North of Portsmouth, NH. With about three to four months of
full-time effort, this -4 can be flying.
There are some minor cracks (stop drilled) in the canopy (pilot/builder
errors, transportation and storage in a hangar while building a house). The
local EAA Tech Counselor felt that the canopy was fine, as is, especially to
get flying. The new Hartzel prop may need seals checked and the AD checked
since it has sat in the shipping container for a few years.
Asking $28K, or best offer for plane, prop, engine (O-320-E2D overhauled at
Winchester Aero and converted to a -D1A), instruments, and radios, ELT.
If interested, I can send photos of the project. It will fit in a 24'
U-Haul truck. The project is located in Ogunquit, ME - about 70 miles North
of Boston, 16 miles North of Portsmouth, NH.
Michael Pilla
________________________________________________________________________________
Thanks Scott! The votes are still trickling in and its a REALLY, REALLY
close race. If you have a preference and haven't yet voted, it so close
that one or two votes could actually make the difference. PLEASE only vote
once, though! To be fair, multiple votes from the same email address will
not be counted.
Matt
At 07:07 AM 10/19/2002 Saturday, you wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Chris Sudlow"
>
>Matt,
>
>You're doing a great job managing this.
>
>Chris
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Matt Dralle" <dralle(at)matronics.com>
>Subject: RV-List: Re: posting (To Forward or Not to Forward...)
>
>
> > --> RV10-List message posted by: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
> >
> >
> > Kevin's right, except for the RV7, RV9, and RV10 Lists. The way its
> > been set up is when someone posts to the RV3, RV4, RV6, and RV8 Lists
> > a copy is automatically sent to the RV-List too. For some reason, the
> > 7/9/10 lists weren't configured that way; probably because I added
> > them later and forgot that about the forwarding.
> >
> > In anycase, for now I've added the forward feature the 7/9/10 Lists to
>keep
> > everything consistant.
> >
> > However, I don't have a stong preference either way, actually. I can
> > see pros and cons to each. Would people prefer the not-forwarding
> > operation? Sounds like it they might...
> >
> > So let's vote! Drop me an email at:
> >
> > dralle(at)matronics.com
> >
> > with a simple:
> >
> > "Forward"
> > or
> > "Don't Forward"
> >
> > in the Subject Line. I'll added up the votes in a couple of days and
> > announce the new method.
> >
> >
> > Matt Dralle
> > List Admin.
> >
> >
> > >--------------
> > >--> RV-List message posted by: Kevin Horton
> > >
> > >Gary,
> > >
> > >Sorry, I have to respectfully disagree here. I am a member of Matt's
> > >RV8-list and the RV-list. If I post a message to the RV8-list, I get
> > >two copies - one that comes from the RV8-list, and a copy that comes
> > >across on the main RV-list.
> > >
> > >I just checked my Out Box - my message to Steve was sent to the
> > >RV4-List only. The copy you replied too seems to have come from the
> > >main RV-List.
> > >
> > >Search the RV-List archives for the text " New Specific RV Lists Auto
> > >Forwarded to RV-List" (don't include the quote marks. You'll find
> > >Matt's description of how the system works. I believe it causes
> > >confusion, because a lot of people on the main RV-List don't
> > >understand that they need study the original message to see where it
> > >originated, and send their response to the message to the correct
> > >list. Otherwise, the original poster may not see the response. But,
> > >Matt likes it the way it is, and these are his lists.
> > >
> > >Kevin
> > >
> > >>--> RV-List message posted by: "Gary"
> > >>
> > >>Kevin.....actually, messages posted to model-specific Matronics
> > >>lists do not automatically post to the RV list. You can post to any
> > >>list or combination of lists you like, but you have to send it to
> > >>the ones you want it to show up on.
> > >>
> > >>Gary
> > >>
> > >>From: Kevin Horton <khorto1537(at)rogers.com>
> > >>Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: RV4-List: Bleeding Brakes
> > >>
> > >>--> RV-List message posted by: Kevin Horton
> > >>
> > >>Steve,
> > >>
> > >>.................. Any message posted to one of the RV model specific
> > >>list also gets posted to the main RV List. Any responses to the copy
> > >>of the message that goes to the main RV List only go to the main RV
> > >>List - they don't go back to the RV model specific list, ...............
> > >
> > >
________________________________________________________________________________
From:
DFCPAC(at)aol.com
Date:
Oct 21, 2002
Subject:
ivo propeller
has anyone tried the ivo in flight magnum propeller unit on an rv-4?
dan carley
________________________________________________________________________________
From:
LessDragProd(at)aol.com
Date:
Oct 22, 2002
Subject:
Re: ivo propeller
Hi Dan,
I've been flying the Ivoprop Magnum electric prop since Dec. 1995 on my RV-3.
Is that close enough to a RV-4?
I don't believe Ivo is selling their prop for four cylinder four cycle
engines, and engines with certain gear boxes. Check with them at
http://www.ivoprop.com
Jim Ayers
RV-3 N47RV LOM M332A engine 140 HP at 2700RPM and 35"MP
(Love that supercharger! :-) )
________________________________________________________________________________
From:
"flyseaplane" <flyseaplane(at)netzero.net>
Subject:
Re: ivo propeller
Date:
Oct 22, 2002
As far as the Ivo Prop goes, the LOM inline engine is a great candidate. It
seems to run a lot smoother than the Lycomings. I seem to remember talking
to a guy in Montana a few years ago that had the Ivo electric prop on an
Avid Magnum and was having problems with it. Just to much engine for a
flimsy prop design.
I love my Warp Drive 72" 3-blade ground adjustable. Lots of Murphy Rebel
guys run them on 150-160 HP. Its great for STOL planes, I wonder if anyone
has ever put one on an RV????
------------------------------------------------------
------------------------------------------------------
I don't believe Ivo is selling their prop for four cylinder four cycle
> engines, and engines with certain gear boxes. Check with them at
> http://www.ivoprop.com
>
> Jim Ayers
> RV-3 N47RV LOM M332A engine 140 HP at 2700RPM and 35"MP
> (Love that supercharger! :-) )
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Date:
Oct 22, 2002
From:
rob ray <smokyray(at)yahoo.com>
Subject:
Re: ivo propeller
Several years ago I seriously researched buying an IVO
Magnum for my RV4. I found Four guys who had bought
and flown them on RV's and all four had cracks in the
gelcoat after 25 hours. I called IVO and asked if the
problem was solved and never heard back. There is an
RV3 with a LOM engine and IVO electric C/S prop
flying, I spoke to him at Van's. I compromised and
bought a Catto Composite...
RR
--- flyseaplane wrote:
>
>
> As far as the Ivo Prop goes, the LOM inline engine
> is a great candidate. It
> seems to run a lot smoother than the Lycomings. I
> seem to remember talking
> to a guy in Montana a few years ago that had the Ivo
> electric prop on an
> Avid Magnum and was having problems with it. Just to
> much engine for a
> flimsy prop design.
>
> I love my Warp Drive 72" 3-blade ground adjustable.
> Lots of Murphy Rebel
> guys run them on 150-160 HP. Its great for STOL
> planes, I wonder if anyone
> has ever put one on an RV????
>
------------------------------------------------------
>
------------------------------------------------------
>
> I don't believe Ivo is selling their prop for four
> cylinder four cycle
> > engines, and engines with certain gear boxes.
> Check with them at
> > http://www.ivoprop.com
> >
> > Jim Ayers
> > RV-3 N47RV LOM M332A engine 140 HP at 2700RPM and
> 35"MP
> > (Love that supercharger! :-) )
>
>
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From:
LessDragProd(at)aol.com
Date:
Oct 23, 2002
Subject:
ivo propeller
In a message dated 10/22/2002 7:50:57 PM Pacific Daylight Time,
smokyray(at)yahoo.com writes:
> There is an
> RV3 with a LOM engine and IVO electric C/S prop
> flying, I spoke to him at Van's. I compromised and
> bought a Catto Composite...
>
> RR
>
Sounds like a good choice.
Jim Ayers
RV-3 N47RV
LOM M332A engine
Ivoprop Magnum electric prop flown since Dec. 1995 very nervously.
I believe Ivo hasn't sold his prop for Lycoming engines for a couple years.
Warp drive wasn't successful on a Lycoming, either. Makes me wonder about
the new CS props using Warp drive blades. Anyone have any history on the new
CS props with the Warp drive blades on a Lycoming?
________________________________________________________________________________
From:
"flyseaplane" <flyseaplane(at)netzero.net>
Subject:
ivo propeller
Date:
Oct 23, 2002
Jim Ayers - - -
Sorry to all that this is the RV list - I have never heard of anyone having
problems with their Warp Drive on a Lycoming. That is, the ground adjustable
ones. What have you heard?? I know a guy who has one on a 160 HP and has had
no problems for the six years that it has been flying (about 800 hours now)
Thanks,
Linc
> RV-3 N47RV
> LOM M332A engine
> Ivoprop Magnum electric prop flown since Dec. 1995 very nervously.
> I believe Ivo hasn't sold his prop for Lycoming engines for a couple
years.
> Warp drive wasn't successful on a Lycoming, either. Makes me wonder about
> the new CS props using Warp drive blades. Anyone have any history on the
new
> CS props with the Warp drive blades on a Lycoming?
-------------------------------------------
________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Oct 23, 2002
From:
rob ray <smokyray(at)yahoo.com>
Subject:
Re: ivo propeller
MT and Hoffman both had enough doubts about the hubs
on Warp Drive props holding up on Lycomings early on.
They invested a ton o' money on research on the
crankshaft before they built props for them. Something
about Pulse rate frequencies on Lycomings being
severe. When you're over trees or water or mountains,
you don't need other problems...
RR
--- flyseaplane wrote:
>
>
> Jim Ayers - - -
>
> Sorry to all that this is the RV list - I have never
> heard of anyone having
> problems with their Warp Drive on a Lycoming. That
> is, the ground adjustable
> ones. What have you heard?? I know a guy who has one
> on a 160 HP and has had
> no problems for the six years that it has been
> flying (about 800 hours now)
>
> Thanks,
> Linc
>
>
> > RV-3 N47RV
> > LOM M332A engine
> > Ivoprop Magnum electric prop flown since Dec. 1995
> very nervously.
> > I believe Ivo hasn't sold his prop for Lycoming
> engines for a couple
> years.
> > Warp drive wasn't successful on a Lycoming,
> either. Makes me wonder about
> > the new CS props using Warp drive blades. Anyone
> have any history on the
> new
> > CS props with the Warp drive blades on a Lycoming?
>
>
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From:
"flyseaplane" <flyseaplane(at)netzero.net>
Subject:
ivo propeller
Date:
Oct 23, 2002
Rob Ray,
"MT and Hoffman both had enough doubts about the hubs on Warp Drive props
holding up on Lycomings early on."
All the guys I know with Warp Drive Props on Lycomings have the "High Horse
Power" blade hub.
Maybe "early on" there was an issue, I think Warp fixed it with the HHP hub.
Later,
Linc
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________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Oct 23, 2002
From:
rob ray <smokyray(at)yahoo.com>
Subject:
Re: ivo propeller
Linc;
How are they holding up? Of course MT and Hoffman
were trying to sell me a prop, but spoke of
cracking/delaminating blades near the hub on the WD as
well.
The only Carbon Graphite C/S prop/hub arrangement I
have seen (So Far) that I really like is the Whirlwind
Prop and it uses a Hartzell hub...
RR
--- flyseaplane wrote:
>
>
> Rob Ray,
>
> "MT and Hoffman both had enough doubts about the
> hubs on Warp Drive props
> holding up on Lycomings early on."
> All the guys I know with Warp Drive Props on
> Lycomings have the "High Horse
> Power" blade hub.
>
> Maybe "early on" there was an issue, I think Warp
> fixed it with the HHP hub.
>
> Later,
> Linc
>
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From:
LessDragProd(at)aol.com
Date:
Oct 23, 2002
Subject:
Re: ivo propeller
If the Warp Drive Company is selling their prop for Lycoming's, then they
must have fixed their problem.
They weren't selling their prop to any four cylinder four cycle engine, at
one time.
Jim Ayers
________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Oct 24, 2002
From:
rob ray <smokyray(at)yahoo.com>
Subject:
Re: ivo propeller
Very Interesting...A Hartzell rep told me it took them
30 years to perfect the two and 3 blade hubs they use
today...
I will testify to the excellent properties of the
Composite Catto FP prop, smooth and efficient.
RR
--- LessDragProd(at)aol.com wrote:
>
> If the Warp Drive Company is selling their prop for
> Lycoming's, then they
> must have fixed their problem.
> They weren't selling their prop to any four cylinder
> four cycle engine, at
> one time.
>
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From:
"flyseaplane" <flyseaplane(at)netzero.net>
Subject:
Someone from the RV list is sending me a virus...
Date:
Oct 24, 2002
Someone from the RV list has been sending me the W32Klez@mm virus for a few
days now.
The W32.Bugbear@mm just came through today. This must be a new one.
Folks, If you don't have Norton Anti-Virus, I strongly suggest you get it.
(it's only $20 from numerous places online)
I don't want to hear one person come back and say "Well, I have McAfee...."
McAfee does not work like Norton Symantec does. I had McAfee installed on my
Hewlitt-Packard when I bought it brand new, and the computer slowly began
acting up. I installed Norton and it immediately found 28 viruses on my
computer. So much for McAfee. Never again!
Anyways, I just wanted you to know that my Norton system has been nabbing
these viruses from the RV list, so you all might want to go ahead and run a
virus scan.
I am going to send this same message to the Harmon Rocket list, because it
might be coming from there, I haven't determined which list is sending me
the virus.
Take care all, and happy building!
Linc
-------------------------------------------
________________________________________________________________________________
From:
"Gene Smith" <esmith6(at)satx.rr.com>
Subject:
Re: Someone from the RV list is sending me a virus...
Date:
Oct 24, 2002
Linc,
"Bugbear Virus" came from the RV-8 list......I got it this a.m...You
are right about the Norton system, it expunged it
immediately......CHEERS!!!...It seems to be a good
system......CHEERS!!!!!!..........Gene Smith.
----- Original Message -----
From: "flyseaplane" <flyseaplane(at)netzero.net>
Subject: RV4-List: Someone from the RV list is sending me a virus...
>
> Someone from the RV list has been sending me the W32Klez@mm virus for a
few
> days now.
>
> The W32.Bugbear@mm just came through today. This must be a new one.
>
> Folks, If you don't have Norton Anti-Virus, I strongly suggest you get it.
> (it's only $20 from numerous places online)
>
> I don't want to hear one person come back and say "Well, I have
McAfee...."
>
> McAfee does not work like Norton Symantec does. I had McAfee installed on
my
> Hewlitt-Packard when I bought it brand new, and the computer slowly began
> acting up. I installed Norton and it immediately found 28 viruses on my
> computer. So much for McAfee. Never again!
>
> Anyways, I just wanted you to know that my Norton system has been nabbing
> these viruses from the RV list, so you all might want to go ahead and run
a
> virus scan.
> I am going to send this same message to the Harmon Rocket list, because it
> might be coming from there, I haven't determined which list is sending me
> the virus.
>
> Take care all, and happy building!
> Linc
>
> -------------------------------------------
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
From:
"flyseaplane" <flyseaplane(at)netzero.net>
Subject:
Bugbear virus came from RV-8 list...
Date:
Oct 25, 2002
Hello Gene Smith,
Yes, I did determine the Bugbear virus came from the RV-8 list as well. The
sender was "Sally and George" about cabin heat. I tried to send them an
e-mail - it came back as undeliverable. It was an Australian e-mail address.
YAY for Norton!! I can't believe how well it works!
Later all,
Linc
-------------------------------------------
________________________________________________________________________________
From:
"Tim Whitman" <wyvern1(at)attbi.com>
Subject:
Re: Bugbear virus came from RV-8 list...
Date:
Oct 25, 2002
This may be of interest
Chuck,
You've swallowed one of the better hoaxes pulled off recently (although it
is
quite old by now).
Before you do anything, check out the following website:
http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/jdbgmgr.exe.file.hoax.html
----- Original Message -----
From: "flyseaplane" <flyseaplane(at)netzero.net>
Subject: RV4-List: Bugbear virus came from RV-8 list...
>
> Hello Gene Smith,
>
> Yes, I did determine the Bugbear virus came from the RV-8 list as well.
The
> sender was "Sally and George" about cabin heat. I tried to send them an
> e-mail - it came back as undeliverable. It was an Australian e-mail
address.
>
> YAY for Norton!! I can't believe how well it works!
>
> Later all,
> Linc
>
>
> -------------------------------------------
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
From:
"Tim Whitman" <wyvern1(at)attbi.com>
Subject:
Re: Someone from the RV list is sending me a virus...
Date:
Oct 25, 2002
FYI from another source
Chuck,
You've swallowed one of the better hoaxes pulled off recently (although it
is
quite old by now).
Before you do anything, check out the following website:
http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/jdbgmgr.exe.file.hoax.html
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene Smith" <esmith6(at)satx.rr.com>
Subject: Re: RV4-List: Someone from the RV list is sending me a virus...
>
> Linc,
> "Bugbear Virus" came from the RV-8 list......I got it this a.m...You
> are right about the Norton system, it expunged it
> immediately......CHEERS!!!...It seems to be a good
> system......CHEERS!!!!!!..........Gene Smith.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "flyseaplane" <flyseaplane(at)netzero.net>
> To:
> Subject: RV4-List: Someone from the RV list is sending me a virus...
>
>
> >
> > Someone from the RV list has been sending me the W32Klez@mm virus for a
> few
> > days now.
> >
> > The W32.Bugbear@mm just came through today. This must be a new one.
> >
> > Folks, If you don't have Norton Anti-Virus, I strongly suggest you get
it.
> > (it's only $20 from numerous places online)
> >
> > I don't want to hear one person come back and say "Well, I have
> McAfee...."
> >
> > McAfee does not work like Norton Symantec does. I had McAfee installed
on
> my
> > Hewlitt-Packard when I bought it brand new, and the computer slowly
began
> > acting up. I installed Norton and it immediately found 28 viruses on my
> > computer. So much for McAfee. Never again!
> >
> > Anyways, I just wanted you to know that my Norton system has been
nabbing
> > these viruses from the RV list, so you all might want to go ahead and
run
> a
> > virus scan.
> > I am going to send this same message to the Harmon Rocket list, because
it
> > might be coming from there, I haven't determined which list is sending
me
> > the virus.
> >
> > Take care all, and happy building!
> > Linc
> >
> > -------------------------------------------
> >
> >
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
From:
"Gene Smith" <esmith6(at)satx.rr.com>
Subject:
Re: Someone from the RV list is sending me a virus...
Date:
Oct 25, 2002
Hello Tim Whitman,
I don't think Linc, Chuck or myself swallowed anything in regard to
this "Bugbear" so called "hoax." The updated Norton system I have (Norton
System Works 2003), recognized that msg. from the RV-8 list as a threat, and
automatically flew all the warning flags, did the bells and whistles, and
etc., and advised me to delete the msg. immediately. In my case all I did
was delete the RV-8 msg., and the "jdbgmgr.exe" file never entered the
picture, and is still intact. I assume everyone else did the same, and
surely no one would ignore those indicators about a problem, hoax or not.
Another good source of hoax info is......Search the Web: "hoaxbusters.com"
I'm still a novice at this PC thing, but learning every day.
We appreciate your info and the Website you suggested, it was very
informative......We all have to stick together, it seems anymore we are
being attacked from every direction we turn, from cowardly jerks trying to
destroy our PC's to snipers and 757/767 missile attacks on our buildings.
We are losing our freedoms rapidly. If you have flown lately, just look at
all the TFR's we have to put up with that pop-up daily......I apologize for
the length of this
"dittie."....................CHEERS!!!!!..............Gene Smith
----- Original Message -----
From: "Tim Whitman" <wyvern1(at)attbi.com>
Subject: Re: RV4-List: Someone from the RV list is sending me a virus...
>
> FYI from another source
>
>
> Chuck,
> You've swallowed one of the better hoaxes pulled off recently (although it
> is
> quite old by now).
> Before you do anything, check out the following website:
> http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/jdbgmgr.exe.file.hoax.html
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Gene Smith" <esmith6(at)satx.rr.com>
> To:
> Subject: Re: RV4-List: Someone from the RV list is sending me a virus...
>
>
> >
> > Linc,
> > "Bugbear Virus" came from the RV-8 list......I got it this
a.m...You
> > are right about the Norton system, it expunged it
> > immediately......CHEERS!!!...It seems to be a good
> > system......CHEERS!!!!!!..........Gene Smith.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "flyseaplane" <flyseaplane(at)netzero.net>
> > To:
> > Subject: RV4-List: Someone from the RV list is sending me a virus...
> >
> >
> > >
> > > Someone from the RV list has been sending me the W32Klez@mm virus for
a
> > few
> > > days now.
> > >
> > > The W32.Bugbear@mm just came through today. This must be a new one.
> > >
> > > Folks, If you don't have Norton Anti-Virus, I strongly suggest you get
> it.
> > > (it's only $20 from numerous places online)
> > >
> > > I don't want to hear one person come back and say "Well, I have
> > McAfee...."
> > >
> > > McAfee does not work like Norton Symantec does. I had McAfee installed
> on
> > my
> > > Hewlitt-Packard when I bought it brand new, and the computer slowly
> began
> > > acting up. I installed Norton and it immediately found 28 viruses on
my
> > > computer. So much for McAfee. Never again!
> > >
> > > Anyways, I just wanted you to know that my Norton system has been
> nabbing
> > > these viruses from the RV list, so you all might want to go ahead and
> run
> > a
> > > virus scan.
> > > I am going to send this same message to the Harmon Rocket list,
because
> it
> > > might be coming from there, I haven't determined which list is sending
> me
> > > the virus.
> > >
> > > Take care all, and happy building!
> > > Linc
> > >
> > > -------------------------------------------
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
Hey RV Listers,
Okay, so I really don't mean to drag this out, but unbelievably, we have a
dead heat between "Forward" votes and "Don't Forward" votes! I had no idea
the opinion would run so close!! I've gotten a little over 100 votes so
far and it is literally a 50/50 split to the vote on which way to go. Over
the last week or so, each day I've gotten a couple of votes to Forward,
then a couple of votes to Not Forward - back and forth. With this many
people on both sides of the fence, no matter which way wins, there's gonna
be a lot of disappointed people! And I thought this vote would make it
easy for me to decide...
I'm going to keep the polls open until Sunday afternoon at 5pm pst, and
just go with the method that has the most votes - even if its just 1 or 2
votes. This is just like the Bush/Gore election; I'm down to counting
chad... You guys from Florida get your votes in! :-)
Here's how to vote - follow closely to make it easiest for me to count:
-- To Vote FORWARD --
* This means that you would like to have any messages posted to the
RV-specific lists automatically forwarded to the main RV-List.
Send an email message to: dralle(at)matronics.com
Make the SUBJECT line: "Forward"
-- To Vote DON'T FORWARD --
* This means that you don't want messages posted to the RV-specific lists
automatically forwarded to the main RV-List.
Send an email message to: dralle(at)matronics.com
Make the SUBJECT line: "Don't Forward"
If you care, here's your chance to make a difference! Get your vote in
before Sunday at 5pm pst. I'll announce the winner Sunday night...
Hey - and there's only voting one time, you guys! You know who you are... :-)
Matt Dralle
Email List Admin.
==============================================================================
Thanks Scott! The votes are still trickling in and its a REALLY, REALLY
close race. If you have a preference and haven't yet voted, it so close
that one or two votes could actually make the difference. PLEASE only vote
once, though! To be fair, multiple votes from the same email address will
not be counted.
Matt
At 07:07 AM 10/19/2002 Saturday, you wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Chris Sudlow"
>
>Matt,
>
>You're doing a great job managing this.
>
>Chris
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Matt Dralle" <dralle(at)matronics.com>
>Subject: RV-List: Re: posting (To Forward or Not to Forward...)
>
>
> > --> RV10-List message posted by: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
> >
> >
> > Kevin's right, except for the RV7, RV9, and RV10 Lists. The way its
> > been set up is when someone posts to the RV3, RV4, RV6, and RV8 Lists
> > a copy is automatically sent to the RV-List too. For some reason, the
> > 7/9/10 lists weren't configured that way; probably because I added
> > them later and forgot that about the forwarding.
> >
> > In anycase, for now I've added the forward feature the 7/9/10 Lists to
>keep
> > everything consistant.
> >
> > However, I don't have a stong preference either way, actually. I can
> > see pros and cons to each. Would people prefer the not-forwarding
> > operation? Sounds like it they might...
> >
> > So let's vote! Drop me an email at:
> >
> > dralle(at)matronics.com
> >
> > with a simple:
> >
> > "Forward"
> > or
> > "Don't Forward"
> >
> > in the Subject Line. I'll added up the votes in a couple of days and
> > announce the new method.
> >
> >
> > Matt Dralle
> > List Admin.
> >
> >
> > >--------------
> > >--> RV-List message posted by: Kevin Horton
> > >
> > >Gary,
> > >
> > >Sorry, I have to respectfully disagree here. I am a member of Matt's
> > >RV8-list and the RV-list. If I post a message to the RV8-list, I get
> > >two copies - one that comes from the RV8-list, and a copy that comes
> > >across on the main RV-list.
> > >
> > >I just checked my Out Box - my message to Steve was sent to the
> > >RV4-List only. The copy you replied too seems to have come from the
> > >main RV-List.
> > >
> > >Search the RV-List archives for the text " New Specific RV Lists Auto
> > >Forwarded to RV-List" (don't include the quote marks. You'll find
> > >Matt's description of how the system works. I believe it causes
> > >confusion, because a lot of people on the main RV-List don't
> > >understand that they need study the original message to see where it
> > >originated, and send their response to the message to the correct
> > >list. Otherwise, the original poster may not see the response. But,
> > >Matt likes it the way it is, and these are his lists.
> > >
> > >Kevin
> > >
> > >>--> RV-List message posted by: "Gary"
> > >>
> > >>Kevin.....actually, messages posted to model-specific Matronics
> > >>lists do not automatically post to the RV list. You can post to any
> > >>list or combination of lists you like, but you have to send it to
> > >>the ones you want it to show up on.
> > >>
> > >>Gary
> > >>
> > >>From: Kevin Horton <khorto1537(at)rogers.com>
> > >>Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: RV4-List: Bleeding Brakes
> > >>
> > >>--> RV-List message posted by: Kevin Horton
> > >>
> > >>Steve,
> > >>
> > >>.................. Any message posted to one of the RV model specific
> > >>list also gets posted to the main RV List. Any responses to the copy
> > >>of the message that goes to the main RV List only go to the main RV
> > >>List - they don't go back to the RV model specific list, ...............
> > >
> > >
________________________________________________________________________________
From:
"Gene Smith" <esmith6(at)satx.rr.com>
Subject:
Thanks Rob Ray
Date:
Oct 26, 2002
Hello Rob Ray,
You are doing a wonderful job, and we are all very proud of you, and thank
you so much for protecting us...We share your frustrations and stress related
to this whole mess we are living this day and time, you are obviously closer
to it all than we are. If you remember our email discussions about crosswinds
and the 360 degree tail wheels, I mentioned I did the same thing you are doing
for 22 years, so I know from your end of the stick.
Yes, you are right, some of the GA pilots really need to clean up their act,
or we might have further restrictions to our privilege to fly. It really doesn't
take much effort to find out the rules to go with the situation before
we get airborne.
Sorry I missed you at Scott Field west of Waco at the last fly-in......I look
forward to meeting you and swapping lies over a brew or two!
Take care of yourself, and don't try to be a too much of a hero......remember
the old Fighter Pilot adage, "one pass, haul ass," and "tomorrow is another
day." I'm sure you recite that each time you "roll-in." Thanks again for "putting
it on the line" for all of us, we do care and appreciate you!............CHEERS!!!!!!............Gene
Smith
PS......To all my other RV Comrades out there, I apologize for taking your space
and time, but I felt this needed to be said. Rob is right, like building these
machines, let's do it right and respect the rules.
________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Oct 26, 2002
From:
rob ray <smokyray(at)yahoo.com>
Subject:
Re: Thanks Rob Ray
Thank you sir! We don't get to hear that very much.
--- Gene Smith wrote:
>
>
> Hello Rob Ray,
> You are doing a wonderful job, and we are all
> very proud of you, and thank you so much for
> protecting us...We share your frustrations and
> stress related to this whole mess we are living this
> day and time, you are obviously closer to it all
> than we are. If you remember our email discussions
> about crosswinds and the 360 degree tail wheels, I
> mentioned I did the same thing you are doing for 22
> years, so I know from your end of the stick.
> Yes, you are right, some of the GA pilots
> really need to clean up their act, or we might have
> further restrictions to our privilege to fly. It
> really doesn't take much effort to find out the
> rules to go with the situation before we get
> airborne.
> Sorry I missed you at Scott Field west of Waco
> at the last fly-in......I look forward to meeting
> you and swapping lies over a brew or two!
> Take care of yourself, and don't try to be a
> too much of a hero......remember the old Fighter
> Pilot adage, "one pass, haul ass," and "tomorrow is
> another day." I'm sure you recite that each time
> you "roll-in." Thanks again for "putting it on the
> line" for all of us, we do care and appreciate
> you!............CHEERS!!!!!!............Gene Smith
>
> PS......To all my other RV Comrades out there, I
> apologize for taking your space and time, but I felt
> this needed to be said. Rob is right, like building
> these machines, let's do it right and respect the
> rules.
>
>
>
> Contributions of
> any other form
>
> latest messages.
> other List members.
>
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>
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
Re: posting (To Forward or Not to Forward...) (The Final VOTE!)
Dear RV Listers,
Okay, its after 5pm pst on Sunday and as promised, I've closed the
polls. I've counted the votes and recounted the votes, and even double
checked all of the Chad and the totals keep coming up the same. Are you
ready for this spread? Here is the official vote count:
95 votes: Forward
96 votes: Don't Forward
Unbelievable, I know. The totals ran within 1 to 2 votes of each other the
entire voting period. I couldn't believe it either. How could the split
be so close? Perhaps I should have turned to the Electoral College for
assistance... Or maybe Florida... :-) Much to Gore's delight, the popular
vote really did count!
So, the people have spoken and as of 5:19pm pst I have disabled the auto
forwarding from the RV-specific Lists to the main RV-List. As I mentioned
earlier, I really was on the fence about the right way, so thanks to
everyone for helping with the decision!
Isn't democracy great!
Matt Dralle
Email List Admin.
Hey RV Listers,
Okay, so I really don't mean to drag this out, but unbelievably, we have a
dead heat between "Forward" votes and "Don't Forward" votes! I had no idea
the opinion would run so close!! I've gotten a little over 100 votes so
far and it is literally a 50/50 split to the vote on which way to go. Over
the last week or so, each day I've gotten a couple of votes to Forward,
then a couple of votes to Not Forward - back and forth. With this many
people on both sides of the fence, no matter which way wins, there's gonna
be a lot of disappointed people! And I thought this vote would make it
easy for me to decide...
I'm going to keep the polls open until Sunday afternoon at 5pm pst, and
just go with the method that has the most votes - even if its just 1 or 2
votes. This is just like the Bush/Gore election; I'm down to counting
chad... You guys from Florida get your votes in! :-)
Here's how to vote - follow closely to make it easiest for me to count:
-- To Vote FORWARD --
* This means that you would like to have any messages posted to the
RV-specific lists automatically forwarded to the main RV-List.
Send an email message to: dralle(at)matronics.com
Make the SUBJECT line: "Forward"
-- To Vote DON'T FORWARD --
* This means that you don't want messages posted to the RV-specific lists
automatically forwarded to the main RV-List.
Send an email message to: dralle(at)matronics.com
Make the SUBJECT line: "Don't Forward"
If you care, here's your chance to make a difference! Get your vote in
before Sunday at 5pm pst. I'll announce the winner Sunday night...
Hey - and there's only voting one time, you guys! You know who you are... :-)
Matt Dralle
Email List Admin.
==============================================================================
Thanks Scott! The votes are still trickling in and its a REALLY, REALLY
close race. If you have a preference and haven't yet voted, it so close
that one or two votes could actually make the difference. PLEASE only vote
once, though! To be fair, multiple votes from the same email address will
not be counted.
Matt
At 07:07 AM 10/19/2002 Saturday, you wrote:
>--> RV-List message posted by: "Chris Sudlow"
>
>Matt,
>
>You're doing a great job managing this.
>
>Chris
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Matt Dralle" <dralle(at)matronics.com>
>Subject: RV-List: Re: posting (To Forward or Not to Forward...)
>
>
> > --> RV10-List message posted by: dralle(at)matronics.com (Matt Dralle)
> >
> >
> > Kevin's right, except for the RV7, RV9, and RV10 Lists. The way its
> > been set up is when someone posts to the RV3, RV4, RV6, and RV8 Lists
> > a copy is automatically sent to the RV-List too. For some reason, the
> > 7/9/10 lists weren't configured that way; probably because I added
> > them later and forgot that about the forwarding.
> >
> > In anycase, for now I've added the forward feature the 7/9/10 Lists to
>keep
> > everything consistant.
> >
> > However, I don't have a stong preference either way, actually. I can
> > see pros and cons to each. Would people prefer the not-forwarding
> > operation? Sounds like it they might...
> >
> > So let's vote! Drop me an email at:
> >
> > dralle(at)matronics.com
> >
> > with a simple:
> >
> > "Forward"
> > or
> > "Don't Forward"
> >
> > in the Subject Line. I'll added up the votes in a couple of days and
> > announce the new method.
> >
> >
> > Matt Dralle
> > List Admin.
> >
> >
> > >--------------
> > >--> RV-List message posted by: Kevin Horton
> > >
> > >Gary,
> > >
> > >Sorry, I have to respectfully disagree here. I am a member of Matt's
> > >RV8-list and the RV-list. If I post a message to the RV8-list, I get
> > >two copies - one that comes from the RV8-list, and a copy that comes
> > >across on the main RV-list.
> > >
> > >I just checked my Out Box - my message to Steve was sent to the
> > >RV4-List only. The copy you replied too seems to have come from the
> > >main RV-List.
> > >
> > >Search the RV-List archives for the text " New Specific RV Lists Auto
> > >Forwarded to RV-List" (don't include the quote marks. You'll find
> > >Matt's description of how the system works. I believe it causes
> > >confusion, because a lot of people on the main RV-List don't
> > >understand that they need study the original message to see where it
> > >originated, and send their response to the message to the correct
> > >list. Otherwise, the original poster may not see the response. But,
> > >Matt likes it the way it is, and these are his lists.
> > >
> > >Kevin
> > >
> > >>--> RV-List message posted by: "Gary"
> > >>
> > >>Kevin.....actually, messages posted to model-specific Matronics
> > >>lists do not automatically post to the RV list. You can post to any
> > >>list or combination of lists you like, but you have to send it to
> > >>the ones you want it to show up on.
> > >>
> > >>Gary
> > >>
> > >>From: Kevin Horton <khorto1537(at)rogers.com>
> > >>Subject: Re: RV-List: Re: RV4-List: Bleeding Brakes
> > >>
> > >>--> RV-List message posted by: Kevin Horton
> > >>
> > >>Steve,
> > >>
> > >>.................. Any message posted to one of the RV model specific
> > >>list also gets posted to the main RV List. Any responses to the copy
> > >>of the message that goes to the main RV List only go to the main RV
> > >>List - they don't go back to the RV model specific list, ...............
> > >
> > >
________________________________________________________________________________
Bugbear is not a hoax, the JDBMGR.EXE warning chain letter is a hoax. The
teddybear icon confuses people.
--
Scott VanArtsdalen, MCSE, CCNA
Network Manager
Union Safe Deposit Bank
209-946-5116
-----Original Message-----
From: Tim Whitman [mailto:wyvern1(at)attbi.com]
Subject: Re: RV4-List: Bugbear virus came from RV-8 list...
This may be of interest
Chuck,
You've swallowed one of the better hoaxes pulled off recently (although it
is
quite old by now).
Before you do anything, check out the following website:
http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/jdbgmgr.exe.file.hoax.html
----- Original Message -----
From: "flyseaplane" <flyseaplane(at)netzero.net>
Subject: RV4-List: Bugbear virus came from RV-8 list...
>
> Hello Gene Smith,
>
> Yes, I did determine the Bugbear virus came from the RV-8 list as well.
The
> sender was "Sally and George" about cabin heat. I tried to send them an
> e-mail - it came back as undeliverable. It was an Australian e-mail
address.
>
> YAY for Norton!! I can't believe how well it works!
>
> Later all,
> Linc
>
>
> -------------------------------------------
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
From:
"Steve Mullins" <smullins(at)drury.edu>
Subject:
Paint
Date:
Oct 29, 2002
Hello RVers!
I know nothing about paint and need some advice. I am about to paint the
steel trusses for a new home I am building for my RV4. Can anyone recommend
a good, affordable primer that would work well in this application? The
steel trusses come with no paint or primer whatsoever, and I want to
protect
against rust in often wet and humid Southwest Missouri climate.
Thanks in advance for your help!
Steve D. Mullins
Associate Professor of Economics
Drury University
417 873 7299 (office)
417 889 5609 (home)
417 873 7508 (fax)
---
Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).
________________________________________________________________________________
From:
"flyseaplane" <flyseaplane(at)netzero.net>
Subject:
Re: Paint
Date:
Oct 29, 2002
Hello Steve Mullins -
I have had excellent results with a self-etching primer from Akzo-Nobel.
I haven't used it in 5 years (so I don't remember the part number) but it
works VERY well.
You may do well to compare prices of all of the two-part self etching
primers in your area. (not just Akzo-Nobel)
Good luck,
Linc
"I am about to paint the steel trusses for a new home I am building for my
RV4. Can anyone recommend a good, affordable primer that would work well in
this application? The steel trusses come with no paint or primer whatsoever,
"
---------------------------------------------
1st month Free!
________________________________________________________________________________
Hi Listers,
I've recently received a number of requests from builders regarding how to
wire up a "dual-rate" system for their electric trim installation. The
concept is that in cruse configuration the trim speed would be slow and
during flaps down configuration the trim speed would be fast.
I've draw up a schematic diagram that shows how to accomplish this using
two Matronics Governor MkIII units, a 12v relay, and an extra switch.
With the flaps up, the "fast" Governor MkIII is switched in, and when the
flaps are down, the "slow" Governor MkIII is switched in. I would
recommend using the highest quality, sealed relay available for this
installation.
Here is the Dual-Rate PDF document:
http://www.matronics.com/GovernorMkIII/DualRate-GovernorMkIII-Installation.pdf
and here is the Governor MkIII website:
http://www.matronics.com/GovernorMkIII
If you have any questions on the wiring diagram, feel free to email me
directly at: dralle(at)matronics.com
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
________________________________________________________________________________
From:
"C. Rabaut" <crabaut(at)coalinga.com>
"Dog Fighter-Terry Burch" , ,
"Alex Peterson" ,
Subject:
Fw: RV-List: Brake Fluid Reservoir Loc. on a tip-up
Date:
Oct 31, 2002
Mark,
How ya' doin' down there at "The Possum Works"? Funny ya'll mentioning
the brake fluid reservoir. I was just talking/emailing with a fellow pilot
about them. That's a good idea of yours, mounting it on the rear of the
subpanel (for easy access), but if I might suggest a GREAT little stocking
stuffer you could ask Old Saint Nick for.... the "Reservoir Dog" from Alex
Peterson. Yep, you'll never have to worry about "why is my sock wet?"
ever again. This handy dandy little cap/valve stops that red (pink or
clear) caustic chemicals from dripping out; EVEN when you gets upside down.
Now some of us don't wanna do flip flops or fancy smancy maneuvers, rolls, &
loops, etc... ( though I ain't met that "someone" yet) but you know that
even in steep turns and bounced landings that red stuff sloshes. So if ya'
looking to keep your bird free from them kinda problems, contact Alex {off
list at Alexpeterson(at)usjet.net } and he'll make you one too.
Chuck
p.s. There're "inexpensive", and I don't get nothin' for sayin' this... I
just enjoy the one I installed (can you say 3 minute installation) and I
like seeing one of our own list members succeed.
----- Original Message -----
From: Mark Phillips <ripsteel(at)edge.net>
Subject: RV-List: Brake Fluid Reservoir Loc. on a tip-up
> --> RV-List message posted by: Mark Phillips
>
> Howdy List-
>
> Anyone installed their reservoir on the rear of the subpanel so it can
> be accessed when the canopy is open? I see one less hole in the
> firewall, more space on firewall, easier to check level and detect leaks
> (why is my sock wet?) & the vent could be run off with a little tube to
> somewhere... Other pros & cons, please!
>
> From The PossumWorks in TN
> Mark
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Nov 01, 2002
From:
rob ray <smokyray(at)yahoo.com>
Subject:
Re: Fw: RV-List: Brake Fluid Reservoir Loc. on a tip-up
I don't know about you, but my brake resevoir is under
the cowling mounted on the firewall...
RR
--- "C. Rabaut" wrote:
>
>
> Mark,
>
> How ya' doin' down there at "The Possum Works"?
> Funny ya'll mentioning
> the brake fluid reservoir. I was just
> talking/emailing with a fellow pilot
> about them. That's a good idea of yours, mounting
> it on the rear of the
> subpanel (for easy access), but if I might suggest a
> GREAT little stocking
> stuffer you could ask Old Saint Nick for.... the
> "Reservoir Dog" from Alex
> Peterson. Yep, you'll never have to worry about
> "why is my sock wet?"
> ever again. This handy dandy little cap/valve stops
> that red (pink or
> clear) caustic chemicals from dripping out; EVEN
> when you gets upside down.
> Now some of us don't wanna do flip flops or fancy
> smancy maneuvers, rolls, &
> loops, etc... ( though I ain't met that "someone"
> yet) but you know that
> even in steep turns and bounced landings that red
> stuff sloshes. So if ya'
> looking to keep your bird free from them kinda
> problems, contact Alex {off
> list at Alexpeterson(at)usjet.net } and he'll make you
> one too.
>
> Chuck
>
> p.s. There're "inexpensive", and I don't get
> nothin' for sayin' this... I
> just enjoy the one I installed (can you say 3 minute
> installation) and I
> like seeing one of our own list members succeed.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Mark Phillips <ripsteel(at)edge.net>
> To:
> Subject: RV-List: Brake Fluid Reservoir Loc. on a
> tip-up
>
>
> > --> RV-List message posted by: Mark Phillips
>
> >
> > Howdy List-
> >
> > Anyone installed their reservoir on the rear of
> the subpanel so it can
> > be accessed when the canopy is open? I see one
> less hole in the
> > firewall, more space on firewall, easier to check
> level and detect leaks
> > (why is my sock wet?) & the vent could be run off
> with a little tube to
> > somewhere... Other pros & cons, please!
> >
> > From The PossumWorks in TN
> > Mark
> >
> >
>
>
>
> Contributions of
> any other form
>
> latest messages.
> other List members.
>
> http://www.matronics.com/subscription
> http://www.matronics.com/photoshare
> http://www.matronics.com/search
> http://www.matronics.com/archives
> http://www.matronics.com/emaillists
>
>
>
>
>
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http://hotjobs.yahoo.com/
________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Nov 01, 2002
From:
Roger Crandell <rwc(at)swcp.com>
rv8-list(at)matronics.com
Subject:
How to contact Ron Burch
Does anyone have a telephone number for Ron Burch? There is an email link at the
following URL,
http://www.kitpanels.com/shops.htm
however my email bounces.
Roger Crandell
________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Nov 01, 2002
From:
Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject:
2002 List Fund Raiser - Please Support Your Lists...
Dear Listers,
During November of each year, I have a voluntary Email List Fund Raiser to
support the continued operation, development, maintenance and upgrade of
the Email Forums sponsored here. Your Contributions go directly into
improvements in the systems that support the Lists and to pay for the
Internet connectivity primarily dedicated to supporting the Lists.
The traffic on the Lists continues to grow and the numbers are nothing
short of impressive! Here are some statistics that show much traffic the
Lists generated last year alone:
11/01/2001 - 10/31/2002
Web server hits: 8,700,000 (727,000/mo)
Incoming Email Posts: 51,259 (4,271/mo) *
* This number is multiplied by the total number of email addresses
subscribed to the given List. The actual number of email message processed
is in the 50,000,000 range for last year!!
The new Internet provider, Speakeasy, has been providing extremely fast and
reliable service over the last year, and this has certainly been a
refreshing change from previous providers!
There were a couple of new features added at the tail-end of last year
including the new List Browse Feature ( http://www.matronics.com/listbrowse
), and the List Photoshare which have been both very popular. Many people
have written to say how much they enjoy the on-line browsing capability of
current week's messages. The 184 new Photoshares (
http://www.matronics.com/photoshare ) added over the last year attests to
its acceptance and appreciation in the community as well.
I have upgraded both the email and web server OS systems recently to the
latest - well almost the latest - version of Redhat Linux and Kernel
2.4.19, both of which have been working very well and quite reliably.
What does the future hold? Well, something pretty exciting I'm
hoping... I am currently evaluating a new, commercially available software
package that runs under Linux and provides a complete web-based Email List
service akin to what those other guys use. The difference will be that
there won't be any annoying advertisements and popup ads on the Matronics
system!! The system will continue to be dedicated to furthering Lists
activities and not trying to sell you something you don't want. My hope is
to keep most if not all of the current functionality in place and add the
new software system over the top. Some of the system will be replaced
(like majordomo), but the lists will work much like they do today - only
BETTER! As I mentioned, I am currently in the evaluation stage of this and
have yet to select a final product. Suffice to say some facelifts are
definitely on the way!
Unlike many of the other "list servers" on the web these days, I have a
strict no-commercial-advertisement policy on the Matronics Lists and
associated List websites. I have been approached by a number of vendors
recently with advertising deals that have been very tempting. However, my
commitment to providing a grass-roots, non-commercial environment
prevails! Commercialism on the Internet seems to be increasing
exponentially every year with more and more SPAM and pop up ads, not to
mention the ever increasing Virus attacks. My goal with the Matronics List
Service is to provide my members with a commercial-free, safe, and
high-performance system in which to share information, ideas, and
camaraderie.
I recoup my upgrade, maintenance, and operating costs by having a List Fund
Raiser once a year during November. During this time, I ask List members
to donate a small amount of money to support the continued operation of the
Lists over the upcoming year. Contributions in the $20, $30, and $50 range
are common. This year I have completely revamped the Contribution website,
and have added the ability to use PayPal to make your Contribution in
addition to the traditional Visa/MC and Personal Check Options. Its easier
and faster than ever before to make your Contribution!! For those who are
accustomed to using PayPal to make Internet purchases, will appreciate the
ease and speed of using this handy method of payment to make their List
Contribution.
The best news this year, however, is that I have a couple of fantastic Gift
offers to support the List Fund Raiser! Andy Gold of The Builder's
Bookstore ( http://www.buildersbooks.com ) will be generously donating a
FREE Jeppesen Flight Bag to anyone making a $50 or more List Contribution
during the Fund Raiser! This is a great bag and something you'll surely
what to get your hands on. Thanks Andy, for this great incentive!!
In addition to the great Flight Bag, I will also be offering a FREE
Matronics List Archive CDROM for a $50 or greater Contribution! This is a
complete set of archives for all Email Lists currently hosted by
Matronics. The Archives date back to the beginning of the each List. In
the case of the RV-List, for example, this includes archives all the way
back to 1990! That's about 133Mb alone! Also included on the CD is a copy
of Chip Gibbion's Windows Archive Search Utility and a precompiled
search-index for each archive on the CD.
Better yet?! You can get BOTH the Flight Bag AND the Archive CD for a
Contribution of $75 or more which is actually LESS than the combined retail
price on the two items!!! How can you go wrong? Get some great stuff AND
support your Lists at the same time!
Over the next month I'll be posting a few reminder messages about the List
Fund Raiser, and I ask for your patience and understanding during the
process. Remember that the Lists are *completely* funded through the
generous Contributions of its members. That's it! There's no support from
a bloated advertising budget or deep pockets somewhere. Its all made
possible through YOUR support!
I would like to take this opportunity to thank everyone who supports the
List this year. Your generosity contributes directly to the quality of the
experience here.
To make your List Contribution using a Visa or MasterCard, PalPal, or with
a Personal Check, please go to the URL link below. Here you can find
additional details on this year's great free Gifts as well as additional
information on the various methods of payment.
SSL Secure Contribution Web Site:
http://www.matronics.com/contributions
Again, I would like to thank everyone who supports the Lists this
year! Your Contributions truly make it all possible!!
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Administrator
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Nov 05, 2002
From:
Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject:
New List Digest Feature!! [Please Read]
Dear Listers,
I've added a new feature to the Digest format of the Lists tonight. At the
top of each digest you will find a new Index Listing of all of the messages
found within that Digest including the Message Number, Subject, Poster, and
Time of Day posted.
I've also added a "Message Number" header to each message within the Digest
so that its easy to find 'just the message' you were looking for!
Sorry for the double posting of the digests tonight - the first time I
didn't quite have the code right and a few "bogus" entries made it into the
Index. I went ahead and reposted the Digest so that everyone could see how
the Index-to-Message mapping really worked.
Special 'thanks' to Gary Hall for not only suggesting a Digest Index, but
also supplying a few samples on how it might look. Gary, I think you'll be
quite pleased with the format!
Don't forget that were right in the middle of this year's List Fund Raiser
and if you haven't already made your Contribution, you own it to yourself
to check out the great free Gifts that are available this year with your
qualifying Contribution.
The Lists are operated completely though the support of it members, and so
its up to YOU to get that credit card out and make that $20, $30, or $50
show of support for the continued operation of the Lists.
Won't you take a couple of minutes and make a quick Contribution on the all
new, streamlined List Support web site? I've also added a
Payment-through-PayPal option this year, and this is proving a very popular
method of payment. Don't forget to check out the great free gifts you can
get with a qualifying Contribution this year. I can't believe how popular
they've been this year! Hurry and get your's today and support the Lists
at the same time!
Here's the SSL Secure URL for making your Contribution:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you for your Support!!
Matt Dralle
Matronics Email List Admin.
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Nov 07, 2002
From:
Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject:
List Fund Raiser - What Listers Are Saying...
Dear Listers,
First, I'd like say *thank you* to everyone that's already made a
Contribution to this year's List Fund Raiser! Thank you! If you haven't
already made a Contribution, won't you take a movement and show your
support for these valuable services? Since there's no advertising or other
forms of direct commercialism on the forums to support the Lists, its soley
YOUR GENEROSITY that keeps them running!!
Won't please take a minute and make a Contribution via the SSL secure web
site via Credit Card, Paypal, or personal check. Here's the URL:
http://www.matronics.com/contributions
This year, I've been getting some *really* nice comments from Contributors
and I thought I'd pass along a few of them below. What does the List mean
to *you*?
Thank you for your support!!
Matt Dralle
Email List Administrator
_________________ What your fellow Listers are saying... _________________
...great service!!
Greg B.
They have been a great assistance to me in building my RV-8.
Kevin H.
...very much appreciated.
Donald M.
Great site...
Angus F.
...invaluable resource.
Ronald C
[The List] has played a big part in continuing my project at
those times when I got stuck for some reason.
Jeff D.
Although I am only a reader, I find the list very helpful.
Oswaldo F.
The lists are a fantastic resource and are helping me very much...
Kenyon B.
The list is part of my life.
Ron C.
The CD will free up some hard disk space on my personal PC.
Jeff D.
...unbelievably useful.
Dan O.
...dependable and valued source of builder information.
Jerry C.
My daily lifeline!
Owen B.
...frequently get questions answered on the List.
Billy W.
Don't know how any first-time builder could get by without the lists.
Rick R.
...great source of information and motivation.
Jef V.
Super resource!
David P.
The information presented is very helpful to the building process.
James B.
Wonderful Service!
Wendell D.
The lists are great!
F. Robert M.
...very valuable to this builder.
William C.
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
________________________________________________________________________________
From:
"Hank Landman" <pukndg(at)mindspring.com>
Subject:
RV-4 Engine Mounts
Date:
Nov 10, 2002
Hello Everyone,
I have an older RV-4 (1986) powerd by an O-320-E2D. Upon examination of the spinner/cowling
alignment, it appears that the engine may have drooped 3/4" or so.
Can adjustments be made to the engine mounts to correct the spinner alignment?
Any ideas are welcome.
Thanks,
Hank Landman
pukndg(at)mindspring.com
________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Nov 11, 2002
From:
Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject:
List Fund Raiser Continues...
Marie Murillo
Dear Listers,
Just a quick reminder this morning that we're well into this year's Email
List Fund Raiser. Response has been great so far and there has been a lot
of interest in the Gift options. Speaking of those Gifts, I received a
sample of the Jeppesen Flight Bag from Andy Gold of the Builder's Bookstore
http://www.buildersbooks.com this weekend, and let me just say that this is
an extremely fine quality unit. Its very light, folds down into a very
small form for storage, and will hold a whole lot of your "pilot
stuff"! For a mere $50 List Contribution, one of these very nice bags
could be yours! You'll be the envy of all your friends.
Won't you make a Contribution today to support the these valuable Email
List Services? Please remember that its YOUR generosity that entirely
supports the continued operation and upgrade of the Lists. That's it - no
ads, no banners - just good clean fun; that is, with your support of course!
Please take a moment and make a generous Contribution today. It only takes
a minute using the newly redesigned Contribution Web Site where you can use
either a Credit Card, PayPal, or a Personal Check to make your donation.
The URL for the SSL Secure Contribution web site is:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
And I'd like to say a special "thank you!" to everyone one who has made
Contribution so far this year!! I really appreciate your generosity!
Best regards,
Matt Dralle
Email List Administrator
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Nov 11, 2002
From:
rob ray <smokyray(at)yahoo.com>
Subject:
Re: RV-4 Engine Mounts
Hi Hank;
The first thing is to determine whether you have
conical or dynafocal engine mounts (straight or
angled). Some early E2D's had conical mounts. Either
way, you can order replacement engine mount rubbers
from Aircraft Spruce.
You then support the engine with a hoist hooked to
the loop on the upper crankcase, then remove the
engine mount bolts one at a time. Replace the rubber
mounts and retighten the bolts per the Lycoming
recommendations.
I have conical mounts and tighten them until the
rubber matches the diameter of the outer washer. You
might even notice a bit more smoothness...good luck!
RR
--- Hank Landman wrote:
>
>
> Hello Everyone,
>
> I have an older RV-4 (1986) powerd by an O-320-E2D.
> Upon examination of the spinner/cowling alignment,
> it appears that the engine may have drooped 3/4" or
> so. Can adjustments be made to the engine mounts to
> correct the spinner alignment? Any ideas are
> welcome.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Hank Landman
> pukndg(at)mindspring.com
>
>
>
> Month --
> Gifts!)
> Click on the Contribution
> Terrific Free Gifts!
> Dralle, List Admin.
> _->
> Contributions of
> any other form
>
> latest messages.
> other List members.
>
> http://www.matronics.com/subscription
> http://www.matronics.com/photoshare
> http://www.matronics.com/search
> http://www.matronics.com/archives
> http://www.matronics.com/emaillists
>
>
>
>
>
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From:
FLYBOYRV4(at)aol.com
Date:
Nov 11, 2002
Subject:
Re: RV-4 Engine Mounts
Hank, Your drooping engine could be from worn out lord mounts. The rubber
ages and gets hard. New ones will cut down on vibration and hold it in place
better. Hope this helps. Jim RV-4 Serial # 111
________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Nov 14, 2002
From:
Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject:
Said What...?
Dear Listers,
Wow, I can't belive some of the nice things people have been saying about
the Lists in that little message box on the Contribution form! I've
included more of the great comments since the last WLAS. Thank you to
everyone that has made a Contribution thus far and for all the great
feedback! Please know that I really appreciate the comments and support!!
Have a look at some of your fellow members thoughts below and decide if the
Lists mean at least that much to you or perhaps even more...
Won't you take a moment and make a Contribution to support these
Commercial-Free, SPAM-Free, Virus-Free, high-performance List
services? Its your direct support through this yearly Fund Raiser that
enables all of these valuable services you've come to expect of the
Matronics Lists.
Thank you for your Contribution!!
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=================== What Listers Are Saying - II ====================
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Hi all,
I'm considering an Eggenfellner Subaru for installation into an RV-4. Has anyone
out there experience of this combination? If so, what engine mount did you
use and what sort of cowl modifications were required? Any advice would be most
appreciated.
Geoff
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Date:
Nov 15, 2002
From:
rob ray <smokyray(at)yahoo.com>
Subject:
Re: Subaru engine for RV4
Geoff, there is a guy in Atlanta who put a Turbo Subie
of his own construction in an RV4. He was flying a
turbo subie before Eggenfeller was even in business.
It flies great and I have flown formation with him in
my 150HP RV4. You can reach him through Mike Stewart,
I CC'd him on the email. Cheers...
Smokey
--- Lieutenant Commander Geoff Winter
wrote:
> Geoff Winter
>
> Hi all,
>
> I'm considering an Eggenfellner Subaru for
> installation into an RV-4. Has anyone out there
> experience of this combination? If so, what engine
> mount did you use and what sort of cowl
> modifications were required? Any advice would be
> most appreciated.
>
> Geoff
>
>
>
> Month --
> Gifts!)
> Click on the Contribution
> Terrific Free Gifts!
> Dralle, List Admin.
> _->
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> any other form
>
> latest messages.
> other List members.
>
> http://www.matronics.com/subscription
> http://www.matronics.com/photoshare
> http://www.matronics.com/search
> http://www.matronics.com/archives
> http://www.matronics.com/emaillists
>
>
>
>
>
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Date:
Nov 16, 2002
From:
Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject:
LOC Coming Soon...
Dear Listers,
This year's List of Contributors (LOC) is just around the corner. I'll be
posting the LOC on or about December 1. The List of Contributors is a
directory of everyone's name that made a Contribution during this year's
List Fund Raiser. Its kind of my way of publicly thanking everyone that so
generously made a Contribution to support the continued operation and
upgrade of these Lists.
Support your Lists today and make sure that your name is on the upcoming
LOC! Your friends will be checking no doubt to see if YOU make your
Contribution because THEY did! :-)
Support Contribution Info - http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Email List Administrator
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
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Date:
Nov 16, 2002
Subject:
[ Bob & Lucille Olds ] : New Email List Photo Share Available!
From:
Email List Photo Shares <pictures(at)matronics.com>
A new Email List Photo Share is available:
Poster: Bob & Lucille Olds
Subject: Our new RV-4, N1191X
http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/oldsfolks@aol.com.11.16.2002/index.html
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o EMAIL LIST PHOTO SHARE
Share your files and photos with other List members simply by
emailing the files to:
pictures(at)matronics.com
Please view the typical Share above and include the Description Text
Fields as shown along with your submission of files and photos.
o Main Photo Share Index:
http://www.matronics.com/photoshare
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Date:
Nov 17, 2002
Subject:
[ Rob Ray ] : New Email List Photo Share Available!
From:
Email List Photo Shares <pictures(at)matronics.com>
A new Email List Photo Share is available:
Poster: Rob Ray
Subject: Rob Ray's "Bandit"
http://www.matronics.com/photoshare/smokyray@yahoo.com.11.17.2002/index.html
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Share your files and photos with other List members simply by
emailing the files to:
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Please view the typical Share above and include the Description Text
Fields as shown along with your submission of files and photos.
o Main Photo Share Index:
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Date:
Nov 19, 2002
From:
Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject:
[PLEASE READ] - Why Do I Have A Fund Raiser Each Year?
Dear Listers,
I got to thinking today that perhaps I should explain why I have a Fund
Raiser and also take the opportunity to express why I think the List
Services here provide a far better experience than the commercial
equivalents.
I use the List Fund Raiser each year to offset the costs involved with
running a high performance email list site such as this one. With the
annual support from the List members through the PBS-like Fund Raiser, I
have found I can run the entire site without having to inflect any of the
members with those annoying banner ads flashing up all the time trying to
sell Toner Cartridge Refills or other garbage nobody wants or needs. From
the comments I've received over the years regarding the Lists, the great
majority of the members really appreciate the non-commercialism of my List
systems and don't mind my 'go-team-go' banter once a year to encourage
members to support the Lists.
I believe that the Lists services that I provide here offer a great many
benefits over the commercial equivalents in a number of ways. The first
feature I believe to be particularly significant is that you *cannot*
receive a computer v*rus from any of my Lists directly. I've been on a few
other List servers and have been unfortunate enough to download infected
files people have innocently or not-so-innocently included with their
posts. This just can't happen with my Lists; each incoming message is
filtered and attachments stripped off prior to posting. I provide a Photo
and File Share feature that allows members to share files and bitmaps with
other members and everyone can be assured that these files will be
prescanned for any sort of v*rus before they are posted. Safe and
simple. Also, with this photo and file sharing technique, the Archives
don't get loaded up with a huge amounts of bitmap "data" that slows the
Archive Search times.
Another feature of this system is the extensive List Archives that are
available for download, browsing, and searching. The Archives go all the
way back to the very beginning of each List and with the super fast Search
Engine, the huge size of the Archives is a non-issue in quickly finding the
data you're looking for. Another feature of the Archives, in my opinion,
is that they have been primarily stripped of all the useless email header
data and all the other header garbage that seems to build up in a typical
email thread.
I have received an extremely positive response from Listers regarding the
List Browse feature and the consensus is that the format and ease of use is
outstanding. Members report that having the previous 7 days worth of
messages online for easy browsing and sorting is hugely beneficial. And
again, as with the real time distribution of List email, the messages are
stripped of all the unnecessary email headers and potentially dangerous
v*ruses. I am currently working on the additional ability to post and/or
reply directly from the List Browse interface. More on this upcoming
feature in the next week or so.
I've been running email Lists and services under the matronics.com domain
since about 1989 starting with RV-List and 30 guys who I knew and who where
also building RVs. It has grown into over 40 different aviation-related
Email Lists and an associated web site that receives over 9,000,000 hits
each year!! Additionally, the List email system forwards well over
50,000,000 (yes, that 50 MILLION) email messages to subscribers each
year! With all the dot.bombs these days, I think there's a lot of value in
supporting a service that has gone the long haul and is still providing and
improving a high quality service at a price that's nearly free.
I have to admit running these Lists is a labor of love and I hope it shows
in the quality of the experience that you receive when you get a List Email
Message, Search the Archives, or use the List Browser. The Lists will be
here for a long time to come. If you just want to lurk a while for free,
that's great and I encourage you to do so. If you use, appreciate, and
receive value from these Lists, then please support them during the Annual
List Fund Raiser!
Thank you,
Matt Dralle
Email List Administrator
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Date:
Nov 20, 2002
From:
Jeff Bertsch <noms1reqd(at)yahoo.com>
Subject:
Clip Art or graphic of RV-4
I would like to get some Land's End shirts for my partners in our RV-4, but I need
a graphic of an RV-4 that I can possibly modify with our paint scheme. Or
if I can't find that, maybe a clip art of an RV-4 that is good enough to use.
Even better, if someone has already done this and Land's End has image on file,
I can use it and save big bucks.
Any advice?
Thanks
Jeff Bertsch
noms1reqd(at)yahoo.com
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________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Nov 21, 2002
From:
rob ray <smokyray(at)yahoo.com>
Subject:
Re: Clip Art or graphic of RV-4
The Vans website has the 3 view drawings for each
model at the bottom of the "writeup". Just go to the
RV4 section, a cool looking RV4 (mine) is seen flying
over the ID mountains, scroll down and they are at the
bottom, cut paste and voila'...
RR
--- Jeff Bertsch wrote:
>
>
>
> I would like to get some Land's End shirts for my
> partners in our RV-4, but I need a graphic of an
> RV-4 that I can possibly modify with our paint
> scheme. Or if I can't find that, maybe a clip art
> of an RV-4 that is good enough to use.
>
> Even better, if someone has already done this and
> Land's End has image on file, I can use it and save
> big bucks.
>
> Any advice?
>
> Thanks
>
> Jeff Bertsch
>
> noms1reqd(at)yahoo.com
>
>
> ---------------------------------
>
>
>
> Month --
> Gifts!)
> Click on the Contribution
> Terrific Free Gifts!
> Dralle, List Admin.
> _->
> Contributions of
> any other form
>
> latest messages.
> other List members.
>
> http://www.matronics.com/subscription
> http://www.matronics.com/photoshare
> http://www.matronics.com/search
> http://www.matronics.com/archives
> http://www.matronics.com/emaillists
>
>
>
>
>
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Date:
Nov 22, 2002
From:
Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject:
List Value?
Dear Listers,
We are quickly approaching the end of November and the official end of the
List Fund Raiser. If you look forward to checking your List email everyday
(and a lot of you have written to say that you do!), then you're probably
getting at least $20 or $30 worth of Entertainment from the Lists each
year. You'd pay twice that for a subscription to some lame magazine or
even a dinner out. Isn't the List worth at least that much to
you? Wouldn't it be great if you could pay that same amount and get a
well-managed media source free of advertising, SPAM, and viruses? Come to
think of it, you do... :-)
Won't you please take a minute to make your Contribution today and support
YOUR Lists.
Contribution Page:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Again, I want to say THANK YOU to everyone that has made a Contribution
thus far during this year's List Fund Raiser!! These Lists are made
possible exclusively through YOUR generosity!!
Thank you for your support!
Matt Dralle
Email List Admin.
________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Nov 23, 2002
From:
Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject:
Fund Raiser Free Gift Shipping Status...
Dear Listers,
A couple of people have written asking what the shipping status was of
their free List Contribution Gifts. Seemed like some status was in order
and I thought I detail where we're at...
Flight Bag Requests
-------------------
On 11/20/02 I shipped out the first batch of Flight Bag-Only (FBO) gift
requests. I shipped all FBO gift requests I had received from 11/1 to
11/19 except for 3 (Sorry guys!) - I ran out of my first shipment flight
bags! Andy Gold of the Builder's Bookstore ( http://www.buildersbooks.com
) is supplying me with another batch flight bags which should arrive in
about 2 weeks.
By the way, these are REALLY nice Flight Bags. Extremely well built and
very professional looking. Folds down into a very small size, but will
hold a huge amount of stuff. If you fly, and you've got a lot of stuff,
they you WANT one of these guys. Surf over to the List Contribution page
for details on how to get one of your own!!!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
The Flight Bags have been shipped out US Mail Parcel Post in a large, and I
mean LARGE, padded white plastic envelope. According to the Post Office,
worse case delivery time would be 8 days to destinations on the East Coast,
but indicated it would likely take a lot less time.
Archive CDROM Requests
----------------------
The Archive CDROMs will be mastered and burned on or about December 1 and
should ship out shortly there after. Shipping will be US Mail, Media Rate
in a big padded white envelope. The Archive List data included will be up
to November 30th.
Flight Bag and Archive CDROM Requests
-------------------------------------
These combination orders will ship out when the Archive CDROMs are complete
as described above, likely a little after December 1. The Flight Bag and
the CDROM will be shipped together in the same Giant white padded envelope!
Again, I want to thank Andy Gold of the Builder's Bookstore for providing
these awesome Flight Bags to support the List Fund Raiser. Andy has gone
way beyond the call of duty with regard to his support of the Lists this
year and to show your gratitude I would ask that you have a look at his web
site and great media offerings. You'll find some excellent deals on some
very useful material. http://www.buildersbooks.com
And finally, I would like to thank everyone that has so generously made a
Contribution so far this year! Your generosity and kindness is greatly
appreciated. If you've been putting off making a Contribution, now's a
great time show your appreciation in plenty of time to make it onto this
year's List of Contributors AND get your free gift with qualifying
Contribution!!!
List Contribution Site:
http://www.matronics.com/contribution/
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
Email List Administrator
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little
temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
Benjamin Franklin
Historical Review of Pennsylvania, 1759
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Date:
Nov 25, 2002
From:
Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject:
All New List FAQs!
Dear Listers,
I got to looking at the Email List FAQs (Frequently Asked Questions) today
and realized that they where miserably out of date. I spent a wad of time
today completely revising them and adding in documentation on all of the
many new features such as the List Browse and Photoshare. Many of the
little-known features are documented in there now, too, so even if you're a
seasoned List veteran, you might want to give it a read. Never know what
you might discover.
At the bottom of this message in the Trailer you will find a new link item
called "List FAQ" with a URL for this specific List. Just click on it and
print it out or read it online.
Don't forget that November is the List Fund Raiser month! The "2002 List
of Contributors" is just days away and I know you'll want to make sure your
name is on it!! Please make your Contribution today to support the
continued operation of these List Services!
http://www.matronics.com/contribution
Thank you!
Matt Dralle
________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Nov 25, 2002
From:
Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject:
WLAS
Dear Listers,
There are only a few days left until the November List of Contributors. I
thought I'd take another opportunity to pass along some of the really nice
things people have been saying recently about the Lists and how much they
mean to them.
If you receive value from the Lists in the form of ideas, assistance,
comradery, moral support, inspiration, or just plain 'ol good
entertainment, then won't take a moment to make a Contribution to support
the continued operation and upgrade of them?
Secure List Contribution Site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution
What does the List mean to you? Here's what some of your fellow
contributing List members have said...
------------------------- What Listers Are Saying -------------------------
Great service for aviation types like me.
Larry H
Best investment I've made.
Harley B
I've been on this list since around 1996 and used it to
help me finish my RV-6A three years ago. I'm still here
because I still learn from it and use it to help others
like me who may be where nobody else is building a RV.
Thanks for your service to our community. It's appreciated.
Jim S
[List] people are a great break away from politics, religion
and other sordid subjects.
Robert B
This site is a great confidence builder for the amateur builder.
Gene L
Great service!
Barry P
Very handy list to have, a good place for a beginner to
get great answers from those who already experienced it.
...sure enjoy reading it.
Joel R
...valuable service!
Chris & Indira K
This is the better than any morning paper - the best and
most frequent service that I use on the Internet. Great
job! This will make building the RV doable for me.
Pete E
I enjoy all of the ideas, suggestions and humor that comes
with this list. I don't think I could build my RV4 with
out everyone's help.
Ross S
GRRRRRRRRRRRREAT!
James W
The list is a great source of information, motivation,
entertainment, passionate debate, and light-hearted back
slapping. I wouldn't be without it.
Roger H
...would still be looking for plans to hook-up s-tec auto
pilot without your service!
David S
The new [digest] format is good.
Graham S
Great information you can't get anywhere else. Lots of nice
people who have "Been there...done that."
George D
My normal morning routine:
1 Kiss "the princess"
2 Good cup of coffee
3 Log onto "List"
A wonderful means of exchanging ideas, asking questions,
gathering information, and sharing experiences.
Robert G
Great lists. Not only are the lists professionally and efficiently
managed, but the *people* on the lists are very helpful, friendly
and fun to chat with. Thank you for this wonderful resource.
Ihab A
Thanks a million, well maybe not a million!!! (:
Ken H
I need this fix every morning or I get grumpy...
Wayne P
Very useful lists
Paul E
This communication medium that you created, nurtured and
continue to maintain is the best thing since AN rivets!
Jim J
The information I gleaned off the list has always been
helpful.
Kenneth B
I've been a subscriber to varied lists for several years
now. The knowledge provided has been extremely useful
throughout.
David P
Enjoy everyone's input even though I am not a
builder...just a flyer.
Douglas P
Just laughin' and a scratchin'
Dennis N
It is a real asset and good for comic relief.
Ross S
I can't build my plane without your service!
Kent H
Great info on the lists!
Wesley H
I'm very new to the List but have already benefited
greatly.
Jim S
The "List" has been my best source for information
concerning my aviation projects. Besides, it also
brings a bunch of people together to share their
interests and knowledge. Thanks for providing a
state of the art, easy to use resource tool.
David A
I have saved a lot of grief and dollars from referencing
this site. It is truly an extension of Van's product
support.
Joseph C
Terrific asset this List is to the builder!
Scott J
Great service!
Tony B
Look forward to the list each and every day.
John B
I could not cope up here in this lonely island without
the help of the List and all the wonderful helpful
people that have the experience of aircraft building
and flying for fun.
Johann J
This list is part of my daily routine. I'm addicted.
Terry D
Great forum!
John H
This list is my main interest in the Internet.
George R
Great list. The best out there on any subject.
Kevin H
Been on the list since 1998 and I still look forward to
reading the list every day. A most valuable tool. I have
picked up many useful tips during the construction of
my RV-4.
Jerry I
Thanks for all of your hard work on the lists. It is
one of the reasons I bought a CJ-6A. Without the
Yak-list, I believe it would have been much more
difficult to get all the information that I need
for safe operation and maintenance of this fine
aircraft.
David L
The List has been an amazing source of useful
information. I consider it one of my best builder
tools.
Gunter M
An excellent channel of information. I have gained a
wealth of knowledge on both building and flying Kolb
aircraft.
Jim B
Enjoy the wealth of information that is shared.
Richard N
Fine service.
Beauford T
[The] List is the first stop of the day. Made lot of
friends from it.
Orie S
The information I gleaned off the List has always been
helpful.
Kenneth B
Over the 3+ years that I have been building, I check it
several times each day. I have learned a lot of very
useful tips that have helped me in my building.
Richard D
Not only is it worth a contribution for the info gleaned
from it but the personalities alone are pure entertainment!
Stephen F
This is great stuff!!! Entertaining, too!! Fast answers
from those who really know...
Bob R
I am building an RV-9A and have received help from
the lists and occasionally been able to give help to
others.
Alden Van W
This list has saved me countless hours of work and worry
already, and I'm only halfway there! Undoubtedly the most
important aid I have yet found in this sometimes
intimidating process of building an aircraft.
Paul H
I've been a member since '96 and have learned so much from
the vast knowledge of the listers.
Gary Z
Outstanding List, exceptionally maintained.
David S
Thanks for all the improvements you've made this year. The
Photoshare feature definitely proves "one picture is worth
a thousand words".
Richard H
I finished my RV6A this year. It is a much better airplane
because of the help I found on the RV and Aeroelectric
Lists.
Dale W
Can't imagine building without the list.
Larry H
The list continues to be a great resource of information
and advice.
Jeff O
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Date:
Nov 28, 2002
From:
Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject:
New Gift Selection Added - List Fund Raiser! [Please Read]
Dear Listers,
I've just added a great new last minute Gift Selection to this year's List
Fund Raiser line up! I have a very limited number of sets of a wonderful
collection of Aircraft Technical books by Jeppesen entitled "The A&P
Technical Series Book Set". This is a great opportunity to make a generous
Contribution to support the Lists and walk away with a great set of
reference manuals at the same time.
This set of books normally retails for over $117 PLUS shipping, but you can
pick up your set AND make this year's List Contribution for a cool C-note -
that's a $100, by the way! :-) I'm thinking "Great Christmas Gift"...
There's more information on the books and making your Contribution at the
List Contribution web site:
Email List Contribution Web Site: http://www.matronics.com/contribution
We're coming close to the official end of this year's List Fund Raiser and
if you haven't yet made your Contribution, there's still time get your name
on that List of Contributors! The percentage of contributors is kind of
low this year but I'm hoping many of you are just holding out until the
last minute!
I want to thank each and everyone of you that has already made a donation
to support the continued operation and upgrade of these List Services. As
I've mentioned in the past, running these Lists is a labor of love for me
and the hours upon hours of code development, system maintenance, and
upgrades are MY Contribution to support this great resource for Builders
and Flyer's alike. Won't your take a minute and make YOUR Contribution today?
I want to thank you for your support both during the Fund Raiser but also
throughout the year in the form of kind words and moral support. A nice
comment from a List member about how much the lists have helped them is
always a sure way to brighten my day!
Thank you to all!
Matt Dralle
Email List Admin.
Matt G Dralle | Matronics | PO Box 347 | Livermore | CA | 94551
925-606-1001 V | 925-606-6281 F | dralle(at)matronics.com Email
http://www.matronics.com/ WWW | Featuring Products For Aircraft
________________________________________________________________________________
From:
DFCPAC(at)aol.com
Date:
Nov 28, 2002
Subject:
heat muff.
right now i have a heat muff that only goes over 1 exhaust. it's not giving
enough heat. i've seen one where it goes over both exhaust pipes. does anyone
know who make the dual heater?
thank you
dan carley
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Date:
Nov 28, 2002
From:
Matt Dralle <dralle(at)matronics.com>
Subject:
[PLEASE READ!] "What is my Contribution used for?"
Dear Listers,
Some have asked, "What is my Contribution used for?", and this is a valid
question. Here are just a few examples of what your direct List support
enables. It provides for the expensive, business-class, high-speed
Internet connection used on the List, insuring maximum performance and
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From:
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Subject:
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Date:
Nov 30, 2002
From:
rob ray <smokyray(at)yahoo.com>
Subject:
Re: heat muff.
Dan, before you pay alot of money for the double muff
try a "redneck" heat expander. Remove the muff and
wrap a bedspring around the pipe inside the muff and
reinstall the muff. I have used it on my RV and my
Tcraft when I lived in SD. It works great! Give it a
try.
Rob Ray
--- DFCPAC(at)aol.com wrote:
>
> right now i have a heat muff that only goes over 1
> exhaust. it's not giving
> enough heat. i've seen one where it goes over both
> exhaust pipes. does anyone
> know who make the dual heater?
>
> thank you
> dan carley
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From:
DFCPAC(at)aol.com
Date:
Nov 30, 2002
Subject:
Re: heat muff.
hi rob,
thanks for the info on the trim, i was a little concerned about it. rather
than going through all the trouble of shimming it it's best to leave it
alone. just wanted to make sure it was common in rv's.
as far as the heat i did try the spring thing not very good. the heat muff i
have on it now is not so good. when i bought the plane it came with it. there
are a few cracks in the welds so it's only a matter of time before i need on.
i found the dual one robbins wings makes them. 90 bucks not bad well worth
it to keep warm. i was out thanks giving 27 degrees out with the wind chill
it was 17, then going up to 3000ft it got cold.
take care
danny
________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
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From:
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Subject:
All New List Digest Format!!
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Date:
Dec 01, 2002
From:
rob ray <smokyray(at)yahoo.com>
Subject:
Re: heat muff.
Yeah Danny, I guess it does get cold up there. I
sealed every hole in my canopy and cockpit and made
heating it alot easier. I have a very small muff, but
I take the intake air off a cyllinder and use a 1"
duct hose and 2 bed springs, once the paint burned off
the springs, it was fine!
RR
--- DFCPAC(at)aol.com wrote:
>
> hi rob,
> thanks for the info on the trim, i was a little
> concerned about it. rather
> than going through all the trouble of shimming it
> it's best to leave it
> alone. just wanted to make sure it was common in
> rv's.
>
> as far as the heat i did try the spring thing not
> very good. the heat muff i
> have on it now is not so good. when i bought the
> plane it came with it. there
> are a few cracks in the welds so it's only a matter
> of time before i need on.
> i found the dual one robbins wings makes them. 90
> bucks not bad well worth
> it to keep warm. i was out thanks giving 27 degrees
> out with the wind chill
> it was 17, then going up to 3000ft it got cold.
>
> take care
> danny
>
>
>
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From:
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Subject:
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From:
"Glenn P. Wilkinson" <gpw(at)accucomm.net>
Subject:
paint
Date:
Dec 18, 2002
Hi guys!
-Has anyone used paint stripper for fiberglass? results,problems?
-Has anyone used Randolph water-based polyurethane paint? results, problems?
Glenn Wilkinson
654RV
Milledgevile, Ga (MLJ)
________________________________________________________________________________
From:
FLYBOYRV4(at)aol.com
Date:
Dec 18, 2002
Subject:
Re: paint
Gentlemen, While we're on the subject of removing paint , has anyone removed
the sloshing sealer from a fuel tank?What were the results and would you do
it again? (I think I know that answer). I am looking down that barrel and I
don't like what I see. I am concidering having new tanks made but don't like
the price of the tanks,installation costs, painting etc.. If anyone has
experienced this I'd like to hear from you. Thanks, Jim Mandeville RV-4 #
111
________________________________________________________________________________
From:
PGLong(at)aol.com
Date:
Dec 18, 2002
Subject:
Aileron nose skin
Just been to the school of hard knocks. After clecoing the nose skin on the
aileron, I noticed that the skin didn't lay tight against the rear skin.
Sooooooooo, I disassembled it and used the Avery roller to slightly bend the
edge down. After reassembling with clecos, the problem was worse. I repeated
the procedure and was a little more aggressive with the bending. Didn't look
real good with clecos, but I reasoned that after riveting it would lay
tightly. Guess I'll have to drill out and buy another nose skin or try and
fill the edges somehow that are lifted between the rivets. I'm sure that
rolling the edge caused the material to stretch causing the excess material
to warp between rivets. What can I do to avoid this with the new skin?
Pat Long
Bay City, Michigan
(989)684-0581
Working on an RV-4
Email: PGLong(at)aol.com
________________________________________________________________________________
From:
HalBenjamin(at)aol.com
Date:
Dec 18, 2002
Subject:
Re: Aileron nose skin
In a message dated 12/18/2002 8:49:43 PM Eastern Standard Time,
PGLong(at)aol.com writes:
> Just been to the school of hard knocks. After clecoing the nose skin on the
> aileron, I noticed that the skin didn't lay tight against the rear skin.
> Sooooooooo, I disassembled it and used the Avery roller to slightly bend
> the
> edge down. After reassembling with clecos, the problem was worse. I
> repeated
> the procedure and was a little more aggressive with the bending. Didn't
> look
> real good with clecos, but I reasoned that after riveting it would lay
> tightly. Guess I'll have to drill out and buy another nose skin or try and
> fill the edges somehow that are lifted between the rivets. I'm sure that
> rolling the edge caused the material to stretch causing the excess material
>
> to warp between rivets. What can I do to avoid this with the new skin?
>
> Pat Long
>
Hi Pat,
My aileron nose skins laid down well after rolling, but they fit pretty well
to begin with. Did you make sure the spar was oriented correctly? 80.5
degree flange angle on top and 83.5 degrees for the bottom flange.
(According to preview plans)
Hal Benjamin
RV-4, Fuselage
Long Island, NY
________________________________________________________________________________
From:
"H.Ivan Haecker" <baremetl(at)gvtc.com>
Subject:
Re: paint
Date:
Dec 18, 2002
----- Original Message -----
From: <FLYBOYRV4(at)aol.com>
Subject: Re: RV4-List: paint
>
> Gentlemen, While we're on the subject of removing paint , has anyone
removed
> the sloshing sealer from a fuel tank?What were the results and would you
do
> it again? (I think I know that answer). I am looking down that barrel and
I
> don't like what I see. I am concidering having new tanks made but don't
like
> the price of the tanks,installation costs, painting etc.. If anyone has
> experienced this I'd like to hear from you. Thanks, Jim Mandeville RV-4 #
> 111
>
>
Hi, Jim
I removed the sloshing compound from my tanks a couple of years ago. I found
it to be a miserable job especially as it was done in the heat of a South Tx
summer and the fumes from the solvent (MEK) prohibited working indoors with
the a/c on. In any case, it was tedious to get all of it out, but I was
determined to never find any in my gascolator again. I had found small
pieces for years, but that summer, the pieces were larger and one day I saw
a large piece floating in the bay that has the filler hole. Visions of
something that big wrapping it self around the pickup tube had me motivated
right now! The work was done by cutting access holes through the back of the
tanks in the three outboard bays and using the hole for the fuel sender for
the inboard bay. Did I mention it was a miserable job? Anyway after it was
all removed, I closed up the access holes with .040 aluminum, Proseal and
numerous blind rivets.Good luck
Ivan Haecker -4 860hrs.
________________________________________________________________________________
From:
N8292W(at)aol.com
Date:
Dec 18, 2002
Subject:
Re: paint
DO NOT use paint stripper on fiberglass, it will eat the epoxy and ruin the
fiberglass! Trust me!
-Mike
N223RV
RV-4
10.1 hours and loving it!
________________________________________________________________________________
Rob,
I have found paint stripper formulated for fiberglass, according to the
manufacturer this is the type I was thinking of trying but was unsure due to
the reasons you stated. Any experience with that type?
Glenn
----- Original Message -----
From: "rob ray" <smokyray(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: RV4-List: paint
>
> AMEN!
>
> Rob Ray N557RR
> 890+ hours,48 states, 3 countries and still loving it!
>
>
> --- N8292W(at)aol.com wrote:
> >
> > DO NOT use paint stripper on fiberglass, it will eat
> > the epoxy and ruin the
> > fiberglass! Trust me!
> > -Mike
> > N223RV
> > RV-4
> > 10.1 hours and loving it!
> >
> >
> >
> > Click on the
> > this
> > generous
> > _->
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> > any other
> > Forums.
> >
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> >
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________________________________________________________________________________
From:
"Tim Whitman" <wyvern1(at)attbi.com>
Subject:
Re: paint
Date:
Dec 22, 2002
Hi Jim,
Glad to hear #111 is still flying! You may remember that I built (with your
rivet squeezer) and flew a 6-A for four years. I sold it this year to get 4
places (in a Bonanza), and am reconsidering whether that was dumb or not.
I'm looking at a 7-A or maybe the -10 when it comes out. Still just in the
considering stage though.
Hope all's well with you.
Say HI to Don for me.
Merry Christmas!
Tim Whitman
----- Original Message -----
From: <FLYBOYRV4(at)aol.com>
Subject: Re: RV4-List: paint
>
> Gentlemen, While we're on the subject of removing paint , has anyone
removed
> the sloshing sealer from a fuel tank?What were the results and would you
do
> it again? (I think I know that answer). I am looking down that barrel and
I
> don't like what I see. I am concidering having new tanks made but don't
like
> the price of the tanks,installation costs, painting etc.. If anyone has
> experienced this I'd like to hear from you. Thanks, Jim Mandeville RV-4 #
> 111
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Dec 23, 2002
From:
rob ray <smokyray(at)yahoo.com>
Subject:
Re: paint
Hi Tim; nice 35 knot tailwind blowing through AL the
other day and a V35 was bragging about his 190 knot GS
to approach control when I passed him in my 150HP
RV4...oops! You need another RV!
RR
--- Tim Whitman wrote:
>
>
> Hi Jim,
>
> Glad to hear #111 is still flying! You may remember
> that I built (with your
> rivet squeezer) and flew a 6-A for four years. I
> sold it this year to get 4
> places (in a Bonanza), and am reconsidering whether
> that was dumb or not.
> I'm looking at a 7-A or maybe the -10 when it comes
> out. Still just in the
> considering stage though.
> Hope all's well with you.
> Say HI to Don for me.
>
> Merry Christmas!
>
> Tim Whitman
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: <FLYBOYRV4(at)aol.com>
> To:
> Subject: Re: RV4-List: paint
>
>
> >
> > Gentlemen, While we're on the subject of removing
> paint , has anyone
> removed
> > the sloshing sealer from a fuel tank?What were the
> results and would you
> do
> > it again? (I think I know that answer). I am
> looking down that barrel and
> I
> > don't like what I see. I am concidering having new
> tanks made but don't
> like
> > the price of the tanks,installation costs,
> painting etc.. If anyone has
> > experienced this I'd like to hear from you.
> Thanks, Jim Mandeville RV-4 #
> > 111
> >
> >
>
>
>
> Click on the
> this
> generous
> _->
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> any other
> Forums.
>
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> List members.
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>
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________________________________________________________________________________
From:
FLYBOYRV4(at)aol.com
Date:
Dec 23, 2002
Subject:
Re: paint
Hi Tim, Glad to hear you are also flying, a BONANZA yet! How did you feel
selling a plane you built? I would think it was difficult to do. How did you
handle the liability aspect of the sale? I am having trouble with the fuel
tanks so I won't be flying for a while until the new tanks are built and
installed. (no small job). The plane is 13 years old now and needs a few
things attended to. I am having Noreast Aircraft Inc. @ plymouth do the work
as they are familiar with the RV-4. I can't imagine selling her, I have too
much fun . Hope to see you around the patch. Jim
________________________________________________________________________________
From:
"Tim Whitman" <wyvern1(at)attbi.com>
Subject:
Re: paint
Date:
Dec 23, 2002
Hi Jim,
It was diffficult parting with 46PH (I kept the rights to the tail number),
it's true, but one wheel kept dragging (afraid of a lock up on landing), the
(2nd) carb was leaking fuel (afraid of an engine fire) , I was concerned
about rust on/in the gear legs(gear collapse?) etc, so I would have needed a
lot of time to get it right.
I found a fellow who was willing to sign papers assuring he would use the
airframe for ground static tests, and never let the parts fly again. The
engine, avionics etc. were sold to folks from Florida to California to
Canada.
I miss the carefree flight and actual construction of the parts. But I fly
Coast Guard Auxiliary, some Angel Flights, and personal missions with three
aboard fairly regularly now though.
I'm blessed either way as I see it and each day I get to fly I am just happy
I can fly at all.
Hope your bird gets healthy soon.
Tim W.
----- Original Message -----
From: <FLYBOYRV4(at)aol.com>
Subject: Re: RV4-List: paint
>
> Hi Tim, Glad to hear you are also flying, a BONANZA yet! How did you
feel
> selling a plane you built? I would think it was difficult to do. How did
you
> handle the liability aspect of the sale? I am having trouble with the fuel
> tanks so I won't be flying for a while until the new tanks are built and
> installed. (no small job). The plane is 13 years old now and needs a few
> things attended to. I am having Noreast Aircraft Inc. @ plymouth do the
work
> as they are familiar with the RV-4. I can't imagine selling her, I have
too
> much fun . Hope to see you around the patch. Jim
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
From:
PGLong(at)aol.com
Date:
Jan 01, 2003
Subject:
Aileron mounting template
Looking for some more advice. Being the 3rd owner of an RV 4 kit, I don't
have access to the original shipping container that had the aileron / flap
mounting template marked on it. I'll be ready to mount them before long and
am wondering if this jig is really necessary? If it is, could someone make a
paper template from theirs and mail it to me? Or, can I get one of these from
Van's? Other ideas?
Pat Long
Bay City, Michigan
(989)684-0581
Working on an RV-4
Email: PGLong(at)aol.com
________________________________________________________________________________
From:
"Kenneth Beene" <kbeene(at)citilink.com>
Subject:
Aileron mounting template
Date:
Jan 01, 2003
>Looking for some more advice. Being the 3rd owner of an RV 4 kit, I
don't
>have access to the original shipping container that had the aileron /
flap
>mounting template marked on it.
Pat,
I think it can be done without them put they do work very well. I build
my RV-6 with ones that I cut from the container but not very carefully.
I just finished the wings on my RV-4 and used some quality templates I
borrowed from another RV-6 builder. I got a much better fit with the
good templates and the installation is easier also.
If you can't borrow some templates from a local builder, email me and I
will try to copy them to paper. You can use the -4 or the -6 template
as they are the same.
Ken
http://www.mninter.net/~kbeene/
________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Jan 02, 2003
Subject:
[ Fred Stucklen ] : New Email List Photo Share Available!
From:
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A new Email List Photo Share is available:
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From:
PGLong(at)aol.com
Date:
Jan 03, 2003
Subject:
drilling out pop rivets
Is there a preferred way to drill out pop rivets? CS 4's? Or do you just go
at it same as a bucked rivet? Going to replace my aileron nose skin and
hopefully get it right this time. Thanks!
Pat Long
Bay City, Michigan
(989)684-0581
Working on an RV-4
Email: PGLong(at)aol.com
________________________________________________________________________________
From:
"Neil McLeod" <bedrock(at)theriver.com>
Subject:
Re: drilling out pop rivets
Date:
Jan 03, 2003
If possible, drive out the shank first using a punch and some kind of back
up. Then it should drill out fairly easily. If it spins sometimes you can
grab the back side with vice grips or needlenose pliers. If that's not
possible somtimes drilling at a slight angle works.
Neil
----- Original Message -----
From: <PGLong(at)aol.com>
Subject: RV4-List: drilling out pop rivets
>
> Is there a preferred way to drill out pop rivets? CS 4's? Or do you just
go
> at it same as a bucked rivet? Going to replace my aileron nose skin and
> hopefully get it right this time. Thanks!
>
> Pat Long
>
> Bay City, Michigan
> (989)684-0581
> Working on an RV-4
> Email: PGLong(at)aol.com
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Jan 05, 2003
From:
Greg Hunsicker <gh2538(at)cjnetworks.com>
Subject:
Conical lord mount problems
I am back in the air now and the J-6230-1 conical lord mounts are not
> working well for me. The mounts I had previously used were #71032
> bushings (8) and big washers(8). The expensive new mounts came with no
> direction and I am wondering if I installed them wrong because the
> engine moves around on a 3 g pull up and I hate the smell of burning
> rubber and a nice pulley slot in my bumpout on the cowling. The spinner
> is a 1/4" sag to the cowling. I oriented the mounts as Vans sent me a
> pic showing the orientation holes since my motor mount did not have the
> alignment markings. Their was a smash stop spacer that came with the
> mounts and it goes between the two bushings and only allows one to
> tighten the mounts just so far and that seems like that could be part of
> the problem. I did not use any of the big fender washers that were used
> with my old rubbers that did not have washers embedded in them like
> these new ones. Any ideas? I really don't notice these mounts being
> any smoother than my old mounts and the 71032 bushings could be smashed
> together more than these. My engine is a O-320-A2B. Have others experienced
this problem?
>
>
> Greg Hunsicker
________________________________________________________________________________
From:
"Hank Landman" <pukndg(at)mindspring.com>
Subject:
RV-4 Condition Inspection
Date:
Jan 12, 2003
Hello All,
Does anyone have a copy of an RV-4 condition inspection checklist? Soft copy would
be helpful.
Thanks,
Hank
________________________________________________________________________________
From:
FLYBOYRV4(at)aol.com
Date:
Jan 12, 2003
Subject:
Re: RV-4 Condition Inspection
HI Hank, If you want a condition report format you can follow, the EAA has a
generic one for fixed gear single engine. I remember the EAA ran a story on
just that a few months ago. Why not give them a call? After you get a copy
just customize it for your particular model and accesories. Jim Mandeville
RV-4 # 111
________________________________________________________________________________
From:
DFCPAC(at)aol.com
Date:
Jan 13, 2003
Subject:
electric attitude gyro
does anyone have or knows where to get a used 12 volt attitude gyro for sale.
thanks
dan carley
________________________________________________________________________________
From:
"Glenn Bridges" <gbridges(at)altamahaemc.net>
Subject:
cd
Date:
Jan 14, 2003
dear ;matt, i know it's not your fault. at my age i was able to build an rv-4 and
fly it but i can not figure out the archive cd that i got for my donation.
any suggestions or shall i donate the cd to goodwill. thanks glenn bridges
________________________________________________________________________________
From:
PGLong(at)aol.com
Date:
Jan 19, 2003
Subject:
Riveting ailerons
On my ailerons, I'm about to rivet (again) the nose skin to the rear skin.
Saw a picture on a website showing the riveter on the floor looking up at the
row of clecos and wondering how the individual rivets stayed in long enough
to get the gun on them. My holes are slightly oversized due to drilling them
out to replace the nose skin. Small piece of rivet tape? Then I wondered if
anyone has tried to back rivet this line of rivets? Seems like you could use
the corner of a back rivet plate to get started. I'm working by myself so
wondered if there was a better way than I did it last time. Blindly holding
the bucking bar from underneath and trying to keep the gun on the right spot
at the right angle. I do have the swivel head so that should help keep it
square. Any tips?
________________________________________________________________________________
From:
HalBenjamin(at)aol.com
Date:
Jan 19, 2003
Subject:
Re: Riveting ailerons
In a message dated 1/19/2003 8:35:51 AM Eastern Standard Time, PGLong(at)aol.com
writes:
> My holes are slightly oversized due to drilling them
> out to replace the nose skin. Small piece of rivet tape? Then I wondered if
>
> anyone has tried to back rivet this line of rivets? Seems like you could
> use
> the corner of a back rivet plate to get started. I'm working by myself so
> wondered if there was a better way than I did it last time. Blindly holding
>
> the bucking bar from underneath and trying to keep the gun on the right
> spot
> at the right angle. I do have the swivel head so that should help keep it
> square. Any tips?
>
Hi PG,
I thought about back riveting the top row but I couldn't see a way to get a
straight shot without distorting the skin. So I just did them with a small
flat bucking bar in one hand & gun in the other. Riveting tape does help
holding them in place while you finagle the bar into position to shoot. Just
take it slow. Good Luck.
Hal Benjamin, RV-4
Fuselage on Jig
Long Island, NY
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Date:
Jan 28, 2003
From:
Roger Crandell <rwc(at)swcp.com>
rv8-list(at)matronics.com
Subject:
Re: RV6-List Digest: 0 Msgs - 01/27/03
version=2.40
Do the landing lights recessed into the sheared fiberglass wing tips
provide equivalent lighting compared to the lights mounted in the
leading edge of an RV6 or any RV for that matter? From a night visibility
standpoint, if I choose the
leading edge to mount the lights, does it matter if you place them just
outboard of the fuel tanks or out next the the wing tip? It would be easier to
install
at the wing tip.
Thanks
Roger Crandell
________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Jan 28, 2003
From:
rob ray <smokyray(at)yahoo.com>
version=2.40
Roger,
I have a single Bob Olds light mounted 10" inboard
from the left wingtip on my RV4. It utilizes a halogen
car headlight with good results in 350+ night
landings. It is of excellent construction and I would
give it a very high recommendation. I don't know if
Bob is still making them though. I have flown an RV6
with JC whitney Halogen car driving lights mounted
inside the wingtips that worked equally well. In both
installations, you don't see anything on final at
night until 100'AGL on striped pavement and 50'AGL
above the flare on grass. They are mainly useful in
taxiing...
I would go for ease and low cost with automotive
replaceability and cut the least amount of
aluminum...good luck!
RR
--- Roger Crandell wrote:
>
>
> Do the landing lights recessed into the sheared
> fiberglass wing tips
> provide equivalent lighting compared to the lights
> mounted in the
> leading edge of an RV6 or any RV for that matter?
> From a night visibility
> standpoint, if I choose the
> leading edge to mount the lights, does it matter if
> you place them just
> outboard of the fuel tanks or out next the the wing
> tip? It would be easier to
> install
> at the wing tip.
>
> Thanks
>
> Roger Crandell
>
>
>
> Contributions
> any other
> Forums.
>
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> List members.
>
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________________________________________________________________________________
From:
MeangreenRV4(at)aol.com
Date:
Jan 31, 2003
Subject:
Re: RV 4 rear wing spar
In a message dated 1/31/2003 10:31:48 AM Pacific Standard Time,
PGLong(at)aol.com writes:
> Hi Experts
>
> My RV 4 wings have the nose and bottom skins riveted on. To mount the
> outboard aileron bracket, I have to cut the rear spar off one inch. This is
>
> the one inch extra length for mounting to the jig I think. I don't think
> the
> jig will be needed anymore as one side is completely skinned. Seems like
> someone told me not to do this. Am I going to need this one inch extra
> length
> for anything? The wings are now in a roll around cart, in a nose down
> position mounted only on the main spar. Am I looking for trouble if I do
> this?
>
>
>
If the wing is drilled out and "locked" by the skins then you can trim the
rear spar flush with the rib so you can attach the outboard aileron bracket
Good Luck
Tim Barnes
Meangreen RV-4
________________________________________________________________________________
From:
"Russ Werner" <russ(at)maui.net>
Subject:
Re: RV 4 rear wing spar
Date:
Jan 31, 2003
You can also reset the jig to grab the newly riveted aileron bracket (which
you riveted after you wacked off the tab).
Russ
> >
> >My RV 4 wings have the nose and bottom skins riveted on. To mount the
> >outboard aileron bracket, I have to cut the rear spar off one inch. This
is
> >the one inch extra length for mounting to the jig I think. I don't think
> >the
> >jig will be needed anymore as one side is completely skinned. Seems like
> >someone told me not to do this. Am I going to need this one inch extra
> >length
> >for anything? The wings are now in a roll around cart, in a nose down
> >position mounted only on the main spar. Am I looking for trouble if I do
> >this?
> >
________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Feb 02, 2003
From:
rob ray <smokyray(at)yahoo.com>
Subject:
Re: RV 4 rear wing spar
Note: forwarded message attached.
Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2003 13:36:48 -0600
From: arvil(at)bellsouth.net
Subject: Re: Fwd: Re: RV4-List: RV 4 rear wing spar
It is best to keep the wing in its jiged position till the flaps and ailerons
are mounted this can be done by making a diferent bracket just below the
aileron bracket so the wing can be held in place from the jig post , this lets
you make sure the ailerons and flaps are in aliment with the wing when
installed
Arvil
rob ray wrote:
> Note: forwarded message attached.
>
> __________________________________________________
>
>
> Subject: Re: RV4-List: RV 4 rear wing spar
> Date: Fri, 31 Jan 2003 13:23:31 -1000
> From: "Russ Werner" <russ(at)maui.net>
> Reply-To: rv4-list(at)matronics.com
> To:
>
>
> You can also reset the jig to grab the newly riveted aileron bracket (which
> you riveted after you wacked off the tab).
>
> Russ
>
> > >
> > >My RV 4 wings have the nose and bottom skins riveted on. To mount the
> > >outboard aileron bracket, I have to cut the rear spar off one inch. This
> is
> > >the one inch extra length for mounting to the jig I think. I don't think
> > >the
> > >jig will be needed anymore as one side is completely skinned. Seems like
> > >someone told me not to do this. Am I going to need this one inch extra
> > >length
> > >for anything? The wings are now in a roll around cart, in a nose down
> > >position mounted only on the main spar. Am I looking for trouble if I do
> > >this?
> > >
>
________________________________________________________________________________
Thought I'd pose this to the REAL builders out there; the RV-4 builders.
There is one last item keeping me from my first flight. That is my elevator
travel. I can only get about 26 deg up. The elevator horn hits the
aft-most bulkhead before I get the full 30 degrees. Anyone else run into
this?
--
Scott VanArtsdalen
Network Manager
Union Safe Deposit Bank
209-946-5116
________________________________________________________________________________
From:
"C. Rabaut" <crabaut(at)coalinga.com>
Subject:
Can't get full elevator travel
Date:
Feb 03, 2003
Hey Scott, I think you're gonna have to re-drill your holes in the horn
(both left & right side).
Chuck
----- Original Message -----
From: Van Artsdalen, Scott <svanarts(at)unionsafe.com>
Subject: RV4-List: Can't get full elevator travel
>
> Thought I'd pose this to the REAL builders out there; the RV-4 builders.
> There is one last item keeping me from my first flight. That is my
elevator
> travel. I can only get about 26 deg up. The elevator horn hits the
> aft-most bulkhead before I get the full 30 degrees. Anyone else run into
> this?
>
> --
> Scott VanArtsdalen
> Network Manager
> Union Safe Deposit Bank
> 209-946-5116
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
How is that going to help? No matter where the holes in the horn are, it
still hits that bulkhead before achieving full 30 deg up. I don't even have
the pushrod hooked up right now. Why can't anything ever be easy??
--
Scott VanArtsdalen
Network Manager
Union Safe Deposit Bank
209-946-5116
-----Original Message-----
From: C. Rabaut [mailto:crabaut(at)coalinga.com]
Subject: Fw: RV4-List: Can't get full elevator travel
Hey Scott, I think you're gonna have to re-drill your holes in the horn
(both left & right side).
Chuck
----- Original Message -----
From: Van Artsdalen, Scott <svanarts(at)unionsafe.com>
Subject: RV4-List: Can't get full elevator travel
>
> Thought I'd pose this to the REAL builders out there; the RV-4 builders.
> There is one last item keeping me from my first flight. That is my
elevator
> travel. I can only get about 26 deg up. The elevator horn hits the
> aft-most bulkhead before I get the full 30 degrees. Anyone else run into
> this?
>
> --
> Scott VanArtsdalen
> Network Manager
> Union Safe Deposit Bank
> 209-946-5116
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
From:
Steve Harris <harriss(at)elcsci.com>
Subject:
Can't get full elevator travel
Date:
Feb 03, 2003
Scott,
I had the same problem on my RV-4. I ended up hogging out for lack of a
better
term some of the bulkhead to get the full travel. I then reinforced that
area
with a piece of angle that also serves as the up elevator stop.
Steve Harris
N144SH
RV-4, 125 hours
-----Original Message-----
From: Van Artsdalen, Scott [mailto:svanarts(at)unionsafe.com]
Subject: RE: RV4-List: Can't get full elevator travel
How is that going to help? No matter where the holes in the horn are, it
still hits that bulkhead before achieving full 30 deg up. I don't even have
the pushrod hooked up right now. Why can't anything ever be easy??
--
Scott VanArtsdalen
Network Manager
Union Safe Deposit Bank
209-946-5116
-----Original Message-----
From: C. Rabaut [mailto:crabaut(at)coalinga.com]
Subject: Fw: RV4-List: Can't get full elevator travel
Hey Scott, I think you're gonna have to re-drill your holes in the horn
(both left & right side).
Chuck
----- Original Message -----
From: Van Artsdalen, Scott <svanarts(at)unionsafe.com>
Subject: RV4-List: Can't get full elevator travel
>
> Thought I'd pose this to the REAL builders out there; the RV-4 builders.
> There is one last item keeping me from my first flight. That is my
elevator
> travel. I can only get about 26 deg up. The elevator horn hits the
> aft-most bulkhead before I get the full 30 degrees. Anyone else run into
> this?
>
> --
> Scott VanArtsdalen
> Network Manager
> Union Safe Deposit Bank
> 209-946-5116
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
Just so everybody knows... I finally broke down and called the factory.
They said that I'm okay at 26 degrees of up elevator travel. If I want more
I can file down the rear of the elevator horn to get more travel. What is
crucial is to not hit the angle that goes across the top of the aft deck
that the vertical is bolted to.
My manual was wrong on this (30 deg up and down) so I'll repost here what
the elevator limits are:
25 - 30 deg up
20 - 25 deg down
--
Scott VanArtsdalen
Network Manager
Union Safe Deposit Bank
209-946-5116
-----Original Message-----
From: C. Rabaut [mailto:crabaut(at)coalinga.com]
Subject: Fw: RV4-List: Can't get full elevator travel
Hey Scott, I think you're gonna have to re-drill your holes in the horn
(both left & right side).
Chuck
----- Original Message -----
From: Van Artsdalen, Scott <svanarts(at)unionsafe.com>
Subject: RV4-List: Can't get full elevator travel
>
> Thought I'd pose this to the REAL builders out there; the RV-4 builders.
> There is one last item keeping me from my first flight. That is my
elevator
> travel. I can only get about 26 deg up. The elevator horn hits the
> aft-most bulkhead before I get the full 30 degrees. Anyone else run into
> this?
>
> --
> Scott VanArtsdalen
> Network Manager
> Union Safe Deposit Bank
> 209-946-5116
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
From:
"C. Rabaut" <crabaut(at)coalinga.com>
Subject:
Can't get full elevator travel
Date:
Feb 03, 2003
Okay, now I've got a better visual picture of what's happening...
The only thing I can think is either;
1- replace the horns (I've got a spare set you can have) and position them
so the travel you need is there, or;
2- cut your current set and have them welded back just enough to achieve the
needed travel....
sorry, with the RV-4's you design and fabricate as you go. But, it's still
the Best of the RV's!
Chuck
----- Original Message -----
From: Van Artsdalen, Scott <svanarts(at)unionsafe.com>
Subject: RE: RV4-List: Can't get full elevator travel
>
> How is that going to help? No matter where the holes in the horn are, it
> still hits that bulkhead before achieving full 30 deg up. I don't even
have
> the pushrod hooked up right now. Why can't anything ever be easy??
>
> --
> Scott VanArtsdalen
> Network Manager
> Union Safe Deposit Bank
> 209-946-5116
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: C. Rabaut [mailto:crabaut(at)coalinga.com]
> To: Scott Van Artsdalen
> Subject: Fw: RV4-List: Can't get full elevator travel
>
>
> Hey Scott, I think you're gonna have to re-drill your holes in the horn
> (both left & right side).
>
> Chuck
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Van Artsdalen, Scott <svanarts(at)unionsafe.com>
> To:
> Subject: RV4-List: Can't get full elevator travel
>
>
>
> >
> > Thought I'd pose this to the REAL builders out there; the RV-4 builders.
> > There is one last item keeping me from my first flight. That is my
> elevator
> > travel. I can only get about 26 deg up. The elevator horn hits the
> > aft-most bulkhead before I get the full 30 degrees. Anyone else run
into
> > this?
> >
> > --
> > Scott VanArtsdalen
> > Network Manager
> > Union Safe Deposit Bank
> > 209-946-5116
> >
> >
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
From:
"Russ Werner" <russ(at)maui.net>
Subject:
Re: Can't get full elevator travel
Date:
Feb 03, 2003
I had the same problem and the factory told me to grind the elevator horns.
They also said that you could use the angle going across the longerons as
the elevator stop. That needed to be made slightly smaller as well.
Russ
----- Original Message -----
From: "Van Artsdalen, Scott" <svanarts(at)unionsafe.com>
Subject: RE: RV4-List: Can't get full elevator travel
>
> Just so everybody knows... I finally broke down and called the factory.
> They said that I'm okay at 26 degrees of up elevator travel. If I want
more
> I can file down the rear of the elevator horn to get more travel. What is
> crucial is to not hit the angle that goes across the top of the aft deck
> that the vertical is bolted to.
>
> My manual was wrong on this (30 deg up and down) so I'll repost here what
> the elevator limits are:
>
> 25 - 30 deg up
> 20 - 25 deg down
>
> --
> Scott VanArtsdalen
> Network Manager
> Union Safe Deposit Bank
> 209-946-5116
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: C. Rabaut [mailto:crabaut(at)coalinga.com]
> To: Scott Van Artsdalen
> Subject: Fw: RV4-List: Can't get full elevator travel
>
>
> Hey Scott, I think you're gonna have to re-drill your holes in the horn
> (both left & right side).
>
> Chuck
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Van Artsdalen, Scott <svanarts(at)unionsafe.com>
> To:
> Subject: RV4-List: Can't get full elevator travel
>
>
>
> >
> > Thought I'd pose this to the REAL builders out there; the RV-4 builders.
> > There is one last item keeping me from my first flight. That is my
> elevator
> > travel. I can only get about 26 deg up. The elevator horn hits the
> > aft-most bulkhead before I get the full 30 degrees. Anyone else run
into
> > this?
> >
> > --
> > Scott VanArtsdalen
> > Network Manager
> > Union Safe Deposit Bank
> > 209-946-5116
> >
> >
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
Yep, this is what they told me too. Did you actually grind some material
off of that piece of angle?
--
Scott VanArtsdalen
Network Manager
Union Safe Deposit Bank
209-946-5116
-----Original Message-----
From: Russ Werner [mailto:russ(at)maui.net]
Subject: Re: RV4-List: Can't get full elevator travel
I had the same problem and the factory told me to grind the elevator horns.
They also said that you could use the angle going across the longerons as
the elevator stop. That needed to be made slightly smaller as well.
Russ
----- Original Message -----
From: "Van Artsdalen, Scott" <svanarts(at)unionsafe.com>
Subject: RE: RV4-List: Can't get full elevator travel
>
> Just so everybody knows... I finally broke down and called the factory.
> They said that I'm okay at 26 degrees of up elevator travel. If I want
more
> I can file down the rear of the elevator horn to get more travel. What is
> crucial is to not hit the angle that goes across the top of the aft deck
> that the vertical is bolted to.
>
> My manual was wrong on this (30 deg up and down) so I'll repost here what
> the elevator limits are:
>
> 25 - 30 deg up
> 20 - 25 deg down
>
> --
> Scott VanArtsdalen
> Network Manager
> Union Safe Deposit Bank
> 209-946-5116
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: C. Rabaut [mailto:crabaut(at)coalinga.com]
> To: Scott Van Artsdalen
> Subject: Fw: RV4-List: Can't get full elevator travel
>
>
> Hey Scott, I think you're gonna have to re-drill your holes in the horn
> (both left & right side).
>
> Chuck
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Van Artsdalen, Scott <svanarts(at)unionsafe.com>
> To:
> Subject: RV4-List: Can't get full elevator travel
>
>
>
> >
> > Thought I'd pose this to the REAL builders out there; the RV-4 builders.
> > There is one last item keeping me from my first flight. That is my
> elevator
> > travel. I can only get about 26 deg up. The elevator horn hits the
> > aft-most bulkhead before I get the full 30 degrees. Anyone else run
into
> > this?
> >
> > --
> > Scott VanArtsdalen
> > Network Manager
> > Union Safe Deposit Bank
> > 209-946-5116
> >
> >
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Feb 03, 2003
From:
rob ray <smokyray(at)yahoo.com>
Subject:
Can't get full elevator travel
Scott;
I have 26 degrees up travel as well. In 850 hours I
have never needed more, including alot of over the top
acro, short field landings and slow flight. I have
never approached full up travel in normal operations.
If you attack the up limit at slow speed, it simply
buffets, until you unload the stick...
RR
--- "Van Artsdalen, Scott"
wrote:
> Scott"
>
> Just so everybody knows... I finally broke down and
> called the factory.
> They said that I'm okay at 26 degrees of up elevator
> travel. If I want more
> I can file down the rear of the elevator horn to get
> more travel. What is
> crucial is to not hit the angle that goes across the
> top of the aft deck
> that the vertical is bolted to.
>
> My manual was wrong on this (30 deg up and down) so
> I'll repost here what
> the elevator limits are:
>
> 25 - 30 deg up
> 20 - 25 deg down
>
> --
> Scott VanArtsdalen
> Network Manager
> Union Safe Deposit Bank
> 209-946-5116
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: C. Rabaut [mailto:crabaut(at)coalinga.com]
> To: Scott Van Artsdalen
> Subject: Fw: RV4-List: Can't get full elevator
> travel
>
>
>
> Hey Scott, I think you're gonna have to re-drill
> your holes in the horn
> (both left & right side).
>
> Chuck
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Van Artsdalen, Scott <svanarts(at)unionsafe.com>
> To:
> Subject: RV4-List: Can't get full elevator travel
>
>
> Scott"
>
> >
> > Thought I'd pose this to the REAL builders out
> there; the RV-4 builders.
> > There is one last item keeping me from my first
> flight. That is my
> elevator
> > travel. I can only get about 26 deg up. The
> elevator horn hits the
> > aft-most bulkhead before I get the full 30
> degrees. Anyone else run into
> > this?
> >
> > --
> > Scott VanArtsdalen
> > Network Manager
> > Union Safe Deposit Bank
> > 209-946-5116
> >
> >
>
>
>
> Contributions
> any other
> Forums.
>
> latest messages.
> List members.
>
> http://www.matronics.com/subscription
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>
>
>
>
>
________________________________________________________________________________
The RV-4 buffets?? That -6 I flew with Mike sure didn't buffet. It got
slow and then just dropped! That's good to hear though. I've got 26 deg up
right now. I may just leave well enough alone for now. Now if someone can
just give me some advice on how to fix a brake leak I'll be happy! It's
leaking right at the plastic TEE that comes out of the reservoir.
--
Scott VanArtsdalen
Network Manager
Union Safe Deposit Bank
209-946-5116
-----Original Message-----
From: rob ray [mailto:smokyray(at)yahoo.com]
Subject: RE: RV4-List: Can't get full elevator travel
Scott;
I have 26 degrees up travel as well. In 850 hours I
have never needed more, including alot of over the top
acro, short field landings and slow flight. I have
never approached full up travel in normal operations.
If you attack the up limit at slow speed, it simply
buffets, until you unload the stick...
RR
--- "Van Artsdalen, Scott"
wrote:
> Scott"
>
> Just so everybody knows... I finally broke down and
> called the factory.
> They said that I'm okay at 26 degrees of up elevator
> travel. If I want more
> I can file down the rear of the elevator horn to get
> more travel. What is
> crucial is to not hit the angle that goes across the
> top of the aft deck
> that the vertical is bolted to.
>
> My manual was wrong on this (30 deg up and down) so
> I'll repost here what
> the elevator limits are:
>
> 25 - 30 deg up
> 20 - 25 deg down
>
> --
> Scott VanArtsdalen
> Network Manager
> Union Safe Deposit Bank
> 209-946-5116
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: C. Rabaut [mailto:crabaut(at)coalinga.com]
> To: Scott Van Artsdalen
> Subject: Fw: RV4-List: Can't get full elevator
> travel
>
>
>
> Hey Scott, I think you're gonna have to re-drill
> your holes in the horn
> (both left & right side).
>
> Chuck
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Van Artsdalen, Scott <svanarts(at)unionsafe.com>
> To:
> Subject: RV4-List: Can't get full elevator travel
>
>
> Scott"
>
> >
> > Thought I'd pose this to the REAL builders out
> there; the RV-4 builders.
> > There is one last item keeping me from my first
> flight. That is my
> elevator
> > travel. I can only get about 26 deg up. The
> elevator horn hits the
> > aft-most bulkhead before I get the full 30
> degrees. Anyone else run into
> > this?
> >
> > --
> > Scott VanArtsdalen
> > Network Manager
> > Union Safe Deposit Bank
> > 209-946-5116
> >
> >
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________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Feb 03, 2003
From:
rob ray <smokyray(at)yahoo.com>
Subject:
Can't get full elevator travel
Scott;
It buffets only if you reef it at very low speed..I
mean REAL slow, as in a slow vertical scissors
fighting somebody or zero knots over the top.
The brake problem is plastic. You might try putting
white plumbers tape around the fitting, re-tightening
the eyeball fittings or just start over. I ripped all
my plastic out this week after five years of pesky
leaks. I replaced all of it with braided steel and
steel fittings from my local auto parts/parker hose
dealer (parker owns cleveland). $85 total cost.
No leaks, no runs, no errors. The plastic line was so
hard after 5 years it wouldn't bend and was leaking
from every fitting in cold weather. I recommend not
using it.
RR
--- "Van Artsdalen, Scott"
wrote:
> Scott"
>
> The RV-4 buffets?? That -6 I flew with Mike sure
> didn't buffet. It got
> slow and then just dropped! That's good to hear
> though. I've got 26 deg up
> right now. I may just leave well enough alone for
> now. Now if someone can
> just give me some advice on how to fix a brake leak
> I'll be happy! It's
> leaking right at the plastic TEE that comes out of
> the reservoir.
>
> --
> Scott VanArtsdalen
> Network Manager
> Union Safe Deposit Bank
> 209-946-5116
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rob ray [mailto:smokyray(at)yahoo.com]
> To: rv4-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV4-List: Can't get full elevator
> travel
>
>
>
> Scott;
>
> I have 26 degrees up travel as well. In 850 hours
> I
> have never needed more, including alot of over the
> top
> acro, short field landings and slow flight. I have
> never approached full up travel in normal
> operations.
> If you attack the up limit at slow speed, it simply
> buffets, until you unload the stick...
>
> RR
> --- "Van Artsdalen, Scott"
> wrote:
> > Scott"
> >
> > Just so everybody knows... I finally broke down
> and
> > called the factory.
> > They said that I'm okay at 26 degrees of up
> elevator
> > travel. If I want more
> > I can file down the rear of the elevator horn to
> get
> > more travel. What is
> > crucial is to not hit the angle that goes across
> the
> > top of the aft deck
> > that the vertical is bolted to.
> >
> > My manual was wrong on this (30 deg up and down)
> so
> > I'll repost here what
> > the elevator limits are:
> >
> > 25 - 30 deg up
> > 20 - 25 deg down
> >
> > --
> > Scott VanArtsdalen
> > Network Manager
> > Union Safe Deposit Bank
> > 209-946-5116
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: C. Rabaut [mailto:crabaut(at)coalinga.com]
> > To: Scott Van Artsdalen
> > Subject: Fw: RV4-List: Can't get full elevator
> > travel
> >
> >
> >
> > Hey Scott, I think you're gonna have to re-drill
> > your holes in the horn
> > (both left & right side).
> >
> > Chuck
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Van Artsdalen, Scott
>
> > To:
> > Subject: RV4-List: Can't get full elevator travel
> >
> >
> > Scott"
> >
> > >
> > > Thought I'd pose this to the REAL builders out
> > there; the RV-4 builders.
> > > There is one last item keeping me from my first
> > flight. That is my
> > elevator
> > > travel. I can only get about 26 deg up. The
> > elevator horn hits the
> > > aft-most bulkhead before I get the full 30
> > degrees. Anyone else run into
> > > this?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Scott VanArtsdalen
> > > Network Manager
> > > Union Safe Deposit Bank
> > > 209-946-5116
> > >
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________________________________________________________________________________
You have part numbers for that fancy brake line stuff? I'm an idiot when it
comes to that kind of stuff.
--
Scott VanArtsdalen
Network Manager
Union Safe Deposit Bank
209-946-5116
-----Original Message-----
From: rob ray [mailto:smokyray(at)yahoo.com]
Subject: RE: RV4-List: Can't get full elevator travel
Scott;
It buffets only if you reef it at very low speed..I
mean REAL slow, as in a slow vertical scissors
fighting somebody or zero knots over the top.
The brake problem is plastic. You might try putting
white plumbers tape around the fitting, re-tightening
the eyeball fittings or just start over. I ripped all
my plastic out this week after five years of pesky
leaks. I replaced all of it with braided steel and
steel fittings from my local auto parts/parker hose
dealer (parker owns cleveland). $85 total cost.
No leaks, no runs, no errors. The plastic line was so
hard after 5 years it wouldn't bend and was leaking
from every fitting in cold weather. I recommend not
using it.
RR
--- "Van Artsdalen, Scott"
wrote:
> Scott"
>
> The RV-4 buffets?? That -6 I flew with Mike sure
> didn't buffet. It got
> slow and then just dropped! That's good to hear
> though. I've got 26 deg up
> right now. I may just leave well enough alone for
> now. Now if someone can
> just give me some advice on how to fix a brake leak
> I'll be happy! It's
> leaking right at the plastic TEE that comes out of
> the reservoir.
>
> --
> Scott VanArtsdalen
> Network Manager
> Union Safe Deposit Bank
> 209-946-5116
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rob ray [mailto:smokyray(at)yahoo.com]
> To: rv4-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV4-List: Can't get full elevator
> travel
>
>
>
> Scott;
>
> I have 26 degrees up travel as well. In 850 hours
> I
> have never needed more, including alot of over the
> top
> acro, short field landings and slow flight. I have
> never approached full up travel in normal
> operations.
> If you attack the up limit at slow speed, it simply
> buffets, until you unload the stick...
>
> RR
> --- "Van Artsdalen, Scott"
> wrote:
> > Scott"
> >
> > Just so everybody knows... I finally broke down
> and
> > called the factory.
> > They said that I'm okay at 26 degrees of up
> elevator
> > travel. If I want more
> > I can file down the rear of the elevator horn to
> get
> > more travel. What is
> > crucial is to not hit the angle that goes across
> the
> > top of the aft deck
> > that the vertical is bolted to.
> >
> > My manual was wrong on this (30 deg up and down)
> so
> > I'll repost here what
> > the elevator limits are:
> >
> > 25 - 30 deg up
> > 20 - 25 deg down
> >
> > --
> > Scott VanArtsdalen
> > Network Manager
> > Union Safe Deposit Bank
> > 209-946-5116
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: C. Rabaut [mailto:crabaut(at)coalinga.com]
> > To: Scott Van Artsdalen
> > Subject: Fw: RV4-List: Can't get full elevator
> > travel
> >
> >
> >
> > Hey Scott, I think you're gonna have to re-drill
> > your holes in the horn
> > (both left & right side).
> >
> > Chuck
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Van Artsdalen, Scott
>
> > To:
> > Subject: RV4-List: Can't get full elevator travel
> >
> >
> > Scott"
> >
> > >
> > > Thought I'd pose this to the REAL builders out
> > there; the RV-4 builders.
> > > There is one last item keeping me from my first
> > flight. That is my
> > elevator
> > > travel. I can only get about 26 deg up. The
> > elevator horn hits the
> > > aft-most bulkhead before I get the full 30
> > degrees. Anyone else run into
> > > this?
> > >
> > > --
> > > Scott VanArtsdalen
> > > Network Manager
> > > Union Safe Deposit Bank
> > > 209-946-5116
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > Contributions
> > any other
> > Forums.
> >
> > latest messages.
> > List members.
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________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Feb 03, 2003
From:
rob ray <smokyray(at)yahoo.com>
Subject:
Can't get full elevator travel
Scott;
They are #4 sized braided steel, teflon lines. Take
ALL your plastic fittings with you to show them for
the threads/fittings. Find a parker hose dealer in
your area and measure all the lengths you need,
exactly. Tell him it's for you "race car" brakes.
On my RV4 I used 2- 24 inch lines(master to T),2-16
inch lines(master to firewall) and 2-50 inch lines
(outside firewall to wheels). I used 6X90 degree
elbows for the master and wheel cyllinders and 2X90
degree extended elbows with nuts where I went through
the firewall. I went out the side of the rudder pedal
wells with the 90 degree down on the outside pointing
towards the gear leg, 2.5 inches below the top of the
"shelf" and 2 inches from the front. The rudder pedal
travel is not affected. You can save a few bucks by
using aluminum aircraft line or just regular high
pressure parker hose for the length of the gear leg
where you won't see it. I just wanted good lines
EVERYwhere. No more walking up to my airplane with
puddles of red fluid under the wheels...
RR
--- "Van Artsdalen, Scott"
wrote:
> Scott"
>
> You have part numbers for that fancy brake line
> stuff? I'm an idiot when it
> comes to that kind of stuff.
>
> --
> Scott VanArtsdalen
> Network Manager
> Union Safe Deposit Bank
> 209-946-5116
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: rob ray [mailto:smokyray(at)yahoo.com]
> To: rv4-list(at)matronics.com
> Subject: RE: RV4-List: Can't get full elevator
> travel
>
>
>
> Scott;
>
> It buffets only if you reef it at very low speed..I
> mean REAL slow, as in a slow vertical scissors
> fighting somebody or zero knots over the top.
> The brake problem is plastic. You might try putting
> white plumbers tape around the fitting,
> re-tightening
> the eyeball fittings or just start over. I ripped
> all
> my plastic out this week after five years of pesky
> leaks. I replaced all of it with braided steel and
> steel fittings from my local auto parts/parker hose
> dealer (parker owns cleveland). $85 total cost.
> No leaks, no runs, no errors. The plastic line was
> so
> hard after 5 years it wouldn't bend and was leaking
> from every fitting in cold weather. I recommend not
> using it.
>
> RR
> --- "Van Artsdalen, Scott"
> wrote:
> > Scott"
> >
> > The RV-4 buffets?? That -6 I flew with Mike sure
> > didn't buffet. It got
> > slow and then just dropped! That's good to hear
> > though. I've got 26 deg up
> > right now. I may just leave well enough alone for
> > now. Now if someone can
> > just give me some advice on how to fix a brake
> leak
> > I'll be happy! It's
> > leaking right at the plastic TEE that comes out of
> > the reservoir.
> >
> > --
> > Scott VanArtsdalen
> > Network Manager
> > Union Safe Deposit Bank
> > 209-946-5116
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: rob ray [mailto:smokyray(at)yahoo.com]
> > To: rv4-list(at)matronics.com
> > Subject: RE: RV4-List: Can't get full elevator
> > travel
> >
> >
> >
> > Scott;
> >
> > I have 26 degrees up travel as well. In 850
> hours
> > I
> > have never needed more, including alot of over the
> > top
> > acro, short field landings and slow flight. I have
> > never approached full up travel in normal
> > operations.
> > If you attack the up limit at slow speed, it
> simply
> > buffets, until you unload the stick...
> >
> > RR
> > --- "Van Artsdalen, Scott"
>
> > wrote:
> > > Scott"
> > >
> > > Just so everybody knows... I finally broke down
> > and
> > > called the factory.
> > > They said that I'm okay at 26 degrees of up
> > elevator
> > > travel. If I want more
> > > I can file down the rear of the elevator horn to
> > get
> > > more travel. What is
> > > crucial is to not hit the angle that goes across
> > the
> > > top of the aft deck
> > > that the vertical is bolted to.
> > >
> > > My manual was wrong on this (30 deg up and down)
> > so
> > > I'll repost here what
> > > the elevator limits are:
> > >
> > > 25 - 30 deg up
> > > 20 - 25 deg down
> > >
> > > --
> > > Scott VanArtsdalen
> > > Network Manager
> > > Union Safe Deposit Bank
> > > 209-946-5116
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: C. Rabaut [mailto:crabaut(at)coalinga.com]
> > > To: Scott Van Artsdalen
> > > Subject: Fw: RV4-List: Can't get full elevator
> > > travel
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hey Scott, I think you're gonna have to re-drill
> > > your holes in the horn
> > > (both left & right side).
> > >
> > > Chuck
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: Van Artsdalen, Scott
> >
> > > To:
> > > Subject: RV4-List: Can't get full elevator
> travel
> > >
> > >
> Artsdalen,
> > > Scott"
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Thought I'd pose this to the REAL builders out
> > > there; the RV-4 builders.
> > > > There is one last item keeping me from my
> first
> > > flight. That is my
> > > elevator
> > > > travel. I can only get about 26 deg up. The
> > > elevator horn hits the
> > > > aft-most bulkhead before I get the full 30
> > > degrees. Anyone else run into
> > > > this?
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Scott VanArtsdalen
> > > > Network Manager
> > > > Union Safe Deposit Bank
> > > > 209-946-5116
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________________________________________________________________________________
Date:
Feb 04, 2003
From:
Ron Patterson <scc_ron(at)yahoo.com>
Hello,
Anyone out there live in the Bay Area of California??. My name is Ron and I live
in San Leandro.
I'm new to the RV list and to the concept of building my own plane. Am also considering
finding an RV-4 "project" near enough to completion that I'd feel comfortable
in trying to finish it up.
I would appreciate any leads you all may have for me, including a part-ownership.
Thanks,
Ron Patterson
________________________________________________________________________________
From:
"Norman" <nhunger(at)sprint.ca>
Subject:
Leading Edge Landing Lights Placement
Date:
Feb 07, 2003
>, if I choose the
> leading edge to mount the lights, does it matter if you place them just
> outboard of the fuel tanks or out next the the wing tip? It would be
easier to
> install
> at the wing tip.
These have to go in the last section by the wingtip for structural reasons.
It is also the best place for ease of service.
For effectiveness, they are upgradable to 100 watt bulbs for less than $20.
I have heard numerous testemonials from listers on how great they work.
Norman Hunger
RV6A Delta BC
________________________________________________________________________________
From:
"Jolly" <jollyd(at)ipns.com>
Subject:
RV4
Date:
Feb 11, 2003
looking for damaged or un-built fuse and canopy frame..will not be used for flight..need
for experiment..503-678-3343..please tell me what you have..thanks
________________________________________________________________________________
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Subject:
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From:
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Date:
Feb 23, 2003
Subject:
Re: Fw: Van's Aircraft RV Survey
Tim, I'm with you on that one. What a tool for a lawyer in a court against
our loved ones in a liability case! Talk about cutting your own ( family's)
neck.
Good call Timmyboy! Regards Jim Mandeville RV-4 # 111
>
________________________________________________________________________________
From:
"Pat Perry" <pperryrv(at)hotmail.com>
Subject:
NACA vent in canopy skirt
Date:
Mar 04, 2003
I'm going to add some additional ventilation for the back seat of my -4. I
noticed the -4 on the EAA's web site Desktop Wall paper for march has 2 NACA
vents in the canopy skirt.
Does anyone on the list have a NACA vent installed in the canopy skirt just
behind the pilot? I'd like to find out how well this works. Any other good
suggestions for getting some air to the back? My wife will appreciate any
suggestions.
Pat Perry
Dallas, PA
RV-4 N154PK Flies great!
________________________________________________________________________________
From:
"Pat Perry" <pperryrv(at)hotmail.com>
Subject:
Oil filter drain tool
Date:
Mar 04, 2003
I thought I'd share this simple parts list with everyone, this is tool for
draining the oil out of a filter before spinning it off and soaking
everything between your engine and firewall with oil. This is not an
original idea but my own cheap version of somthing I saw for sale for about
$50.
Parts:
(1) 4" C-clamp - make sure it's about 1/2" bigger than an oil filter
(1) 1/4" x 1.5" steel roll pin
(3')1/4" ID tubing
(1) hose clamps to fit 1/4" ID tube
(1) 1/4" ID rubber washer
To make:
1. grind a flat spot in the arch of the clamp behind the fixed pad of the
c-clamp to allow drilling a 15/64" hole through the clamp pad.
2. grind the roll pin end to a very sharp point at about a 30deg angle.
3. Hammer the roll pin point first through the hole in the clamp until the
point is about 1/4" through the pad.
4. Place the rubber washer over the sharp end of the roll pin
5. Clamp the 1/4" tube to the bottom of the roll pin.
I tried this out last weekend, it took about 20 minutes to make the thing
and it cost about $1 using an old c-clamp I had in the shop. It works
perfect, by clamping it to the back of the filter it drains the oil out
through the tube and keeps the oil off everything else.
Pat Perry
Dallas, PA
RV-4 N154PK Flies great!
________________________________________________________________________________
From:
"2 at UT" <tomrv8(at)gvtc.com>
Subject:
Re: NACA vent in canopy skirt
Date:
Mar 04, 2003
Pat,
I have two naca vents in the canopy skirt on my -4. One near the front edge
of the canopy skirt for the pilot, and one just behind the pilot. Both are
on the right side skirt.
The one for the "pilot" doesn't provide any airflow at all. I never open
it. Might have something to do with the fact that the canopy skirt angles
toward the firwall just aft of the vent.
The vent for the passenger works very well, but is a little on the noisy
side when open.
A friend with a -4 retrofitted an under the wing naca vent ala RV-8, and it
works very well.
Tom
N153TK
1,002 hours
----- Original Message -----
From: "Pat Perry" <pperryrv(at)hotmail.com>
Subject: RV4-List: NACA vent in canopy skirt
>
>
> I'm going to add some additional ventilation for the back seat of my -4.
I
> noticed the -4 on the EAA's web site Desktop Wall paper for march has 2
NACA
> vents in the canopy skirt.
>
> Does anyone on the list have a NACA vent installed in the canopy skirt
just
> behind the pilot? I'd like to find out how well this works. Any other
good
> suggestions for getting some air to the back? My wife will appreciate any
> suggestions.
>
>
> Pat Perry
> Dallas, PA
> RV-4 N154PK Flies great!
>
>
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From:
"Gene Smith" <esmith6(at)satx.rr.com>
Subject:
RV-4 NACA Air Vents
Date:
Mar 04, 2003
Pat Perry,
I have two NACA vents on my -4 installed like tomrv8(at)gvtc.com has on his -4...I
get plenty of air flow through the forward one, but it was mostly going toward
the rear occupant, so I took a very thin piece of sheet metal and shaped it
very nicely and curved it so that it deflected the air on me up front...I wedged
this thin sheet between the plastic scoop and the skirt and no fasteners were
required at all. It surprised me that it stays there (it is a tight squeeze!)......if
necessary, I suppose you could use some kind of "stickum" to hold it
in place............Hope this helps.........CHEERS!!!!!............Gene Smith.
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From:
LessDragProd(at)aol.com
Date:
Mar 04, 2003
Subject:
Cockpit Air Outlet?
Hi All,
I've read quite a bit about the air inlets.
Where is the air outlet located?
To have air "flow", it normally requires an inlet AND an outlet.
Jim Ayers
RV-3 N47RV
PS I know I don't have an air outlet "designed into" my RV-3.
Is it expected to just happen?
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From:
"Gene Smith" <esmith6(at)satx.rr.com>
Subject:
Air Outlets
Date:
Mar 04, 2003
Yes, Jim Ayers you are correct......My canopy on the -4 is not that tight, and
I purposely have not used weather stripping, caulking and etc. because of what
Van said in the RVator about the smoke in the cockpit the first time he did an
airshow after installing a smoke generator in the -4...I have always been concerned
about carbon monoxide entering the cockpit, so I live with the built-in
ventilation, but the exhaust system is checked for cracks every time the cowl
comes off, and the bottom of the fuselage, and the firewall are totally sealed
and checked often...............CHEERS!!!!!........................Gene Smith.
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I have mine mounted on my forward fuselage just under the cheek cowlings on
either side. Makes for pretty decent airflow.
--
Scott VanArtsdalen
Network Manager
Union Safe Deposit Bank
209-946-5116
-----Original Message-----
From: 2 at UT [mailto:tomrv8(at)gvtc.com]
Subject: Re: RV4-List: NACA vent in canopy skirt
Pat,
I have two naca vents in the canopy skirt on my -4. One near the front edge
of the canopy skirt for the pilot, and one just behind the pilot. Both are
on the right side skirt.
The one for the "pilot" doesn't provide any airflow at all. I never open
it. Might have something to do with the fact that the canopy skirt angles
toward the firwall just aft of the vent.
The vent for the passenger works very well, but is a little on the noisy
side when open.
A friend with a -4 retrofitted an under the wing naca vent ala RV-8, and it
works very well.
Tom
N153TK
1,002 hours
----- Original Message -----
From: "Pat Perry" <pperryrv(at)hotmail.com>
Subject: RV4-List: NACA vent in canopy skirt
>
>
> I'm going to add some additional ventilation for the back seat of my -4.
I
> noticed the -4 on the EAA's web site Desktop Wall paper for march has 2
NACA
> vents in the canopy skirt.
>
> Does anyone on the list have a NACA vent installed in the canopy skirt
just
> behind the pilot? I'd like to find out how well this works. Any other
good
> suggestions for getting some air to the back? My wife will appreciate any
> suggestions.
>
>
> Pat Perry
> Dallas, PA
> RV-4 N154PK Flies great!
>
>
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From:
Melvinke(at)aol.com
Date:
Mar 04, 2003
Subject:
Re: NACA vent in canopy skirt
I have tried NACA scoops on the canopy skirt, both front and back. Total
failure in each case -- no air entry to speak of. They do work well, however,
if placed in the lower wing skin.
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From:
"JL" <arg1(at)capital.net>
Subject:
Re: Oil filter drain tool
Date:
Mar 05, 2003
Excellent. This I am going to try. Thanks, Pat!
Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: "Pat Perry" <pperryrv(at)hotmail.com>
Subject: RV4-List: Oil filter drain tool
>
> I thought I'd share this simple parts list with everyone, this is tool for
> draining the oil out of a filter before spinning it off and soaking
> everything between your engine and firewall with oil. This is not an
> original idea but my own cheap version of somthing I saw for sale for
about
> $50.
>
> Parts:
> (1) 4" C-clamp - make sure it's about 1/2" bigger than an oil filter
> (1) 1/4" x 1.5" steel roll pin
> (3')1/4" ID tubing
> (1) hose clamps to fit 1/4" ID tube
> (1) 1/4" ID rubber washer
>
> To make:
> 1. grind a flat spot in the arch of the clamp behind the fixed pad of the
> c-clamp to allow drilling a 15/64" hole through the clamp pad.
>
> 2. grind the roll pin end to a very sharp point at about a 30deg angle.
>
> 3. Hammer the roll pin point first through the hole in the clamp until the
> point is about 1/4" through the pad.
>
> 4. Place the rubber washer over the sharp end of the roll pin
>
> 5. Clamp the 1/4" tube to the bottom of the roll pin.
>
> I tried this out last weekend, it took about 20 minutes to make the thing
> and it cost about $1 using an old c-clamp I had in the shop. It works
> perfect, by clamping it to the back of the filter it drains the oil out
> through the tube and keeps the oil off everything else.
>
>
> Pat Perry
> Dallas, PA
> RV-4 N154PK Flies great!
>
>
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I just installed Landoll's harmonic balancer yesterday on my -4. There
weren't any instructions so I just put it on they way that looked right.
I'm going to try to fly with it either tonight or tomorrow morning. Does
anyone have any weight and balance info for it. I believe it weighs 12 lbs.
Anyone know what the station of the ring gear on a Lycoming is for an RV-4?
PS. I'm going to check the archives now. :-)
--
Scott VanArtsdalen
Network Manager
Union Safe Deposit Bank
209-946-5116
http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40">
I just installed Landoll's
harmonic balancer yesterday on my -4.
There weren't any instructions so I just put it on they way that
looked right. I'm going to
try to fly with it either tonight or tomorrow morning. Does anyone have any weight and balance
info for it. I believe it weighs 12
lbs. Anyone know what the station
of the ring gear on a Lycoming is for an RV-4?PS. I'm
going to check the archives now. J--Scott VanArtsdalenNetwork ManagerUnion Safe Deposit Bank209-946-5116
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I am about to remove a 17 pound starter on my 150 hp O-320 RV-4 and
install one of the
flyweight 8 pound starters. I did not build the airplane and am
wondering if I have any real W&B issues? Is removing 9 pounds from that
location going to cause me concern? I run a 12 pound Warnke prop.
Greg
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I run a Catto wood prop and have the lightweight starter and alternator. I
haven't noticed any adverse flying conditions on my -4. HOWEVER, I've only
got 6 hours on my plane and I just added a harmonic dampener from Landoll
today. I was worried about carrying passengers without it.
--
Scott VanArtsdalen
Network Manager
Union Safe Deposit Bank
209-946-5116
-----Original Message-----
From: Greg Hunsicker [mailto:Greg(at)furnacesafetyconsultants.com]
Subject: RV4-List: SkyTek light weight starter
I am about to remove a 17 pound starter on my 150 hp O-320 RV-4 and
install one of the
flyweight 8 pound starters. I did not build the airplane and am
wondering if I have any real W&B issues? Is removing 9 pounds from that
location going to cause me concern? I run a 12 pound Warnke prop.
Greg
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From:
LessDragProd(at)aol.com
Date:
Mar 05, 2003
Subject:
Re: SkyTek light weight starter
Hi Greg,
Why aren't you doing a weight and balance calculation to determine this for
yourself?
Jim Ayers
