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1. 04:08 AM - Re : Euro Fly In, the french RSA rally, starts next wednesday. (NEEL Jean Philippe)
2. 06:39 AM - Re: Re: Anyone considered a ULPOWER UL260i engine (William Daniell)
3. 10:41 AM - Check your Landing Gear Retraction Lever Strut (Mod 51) (klaus dietrich)
4. 11:12 AM - Re: Anyone considered a ULPOWER UL260i engine (Galaxy UL Power Engines)
5. 11:35 AM - Re: Ampreg 20 UK north (Richard Churchill-Coleman)
6. 01:58 PM - (Kjell Skogeland)
7. 02:53 PM - Re: Check your Landing Gear Retraction Lever Strut (Mod 51) (David Joyce)
8. 05:23 PM - Re: Check your Landing Gear Retraction Lever Strut (Mod 51) (Bud Yerly)
9. 06:20 PM - Re: Check your Landing Gear Retraction Lever Strut (Mod 51) (Jerry Rehn)
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| Subject: | Euro Fly In, the french RSA rally, starts next wednesday. |
Salut Remi=0AJe viendrai =E0 St Yan Dimanche-matin . Dis moi si il y aura
un parking Europa?=0AA bientot=0AJP=0A=0A=0A=0A___________________________
_____=0ADe : Guerner Remi <air.guerner@orange.fr>=0A=C0 : Europa-List Diges
t Server <europa-list@matronics.com>=0AEnvoy=E9 le : Lun 12 juillet 2010, 2
2h 15min 10s=0AObjet-: Europa-List: Euro Fly In, the french RSA rally, st
arts next wednesday.=0A=0A=0AHello all,=0A=0AThis year the french RSA rally
will take place in Saint Yan on July 14-18. The =0Aairfield is located 160
Nm south east from Paris. The 5 day fly-in is set to be =0Aa major europea
n aviation event, with daily airshow, forums, exibitors, =0Aworkshops, etc.
.. and of course good french food and wine.=0A=0AFor more information:-ht
tp://www.euro-fly-in.com/=0ADirect link to arrival =0Aprocedures:-http://
www.euro-fly-in.com/index.php?option=com_ionfiles&Itemid=5&lang=en-
=0A=0AI hope that many Europas will attend.=0AIf you have questions, please
let me know.=0ALooking fwd welcoming you there.=0ABest regards=0A=0ARemi G
uerner=0AF-PGKL=0A=0A=0ANote: For those coming from the north, be careful t
hat there will be very =0Aextensive flight restrictions on July 14: no flig
ht possible in the Paris region =0Aall day. Make sure you check NOTAMS and
============ =0A=0A=0A=0A
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| Subject: | Re: Anyone considered a ULPOWER UL260i engine |
I spoken to Eggenfellner and plan to go see the engine in the next 60
days - not sure I will learn much but I always have to see stuff.
He tells me that a turbo normalized version in on the way as well.
I tend to agree Honda quality has always been pretty good.
I understand that Bowman in Canada has been flying behind a CAM100 but I
can get hold of him to ask. As i understand his solution was to have
two radiators.
Anyway once i have seen it I will report back.
Will
JEFF ROBERTS wrote:
> Fred,
> Thats a very interesting engine and price. As far as autos & bikes go
> there isn't a better engine than a honda. (My opinion only)
> It's nice to see they're pricing it based on normal business practices
> instead of... "it's what Rotax charges". I love good old competition /
> capitalism. I'm going to keep an eye on that one.
>
> Regards,
>
> Jeff R. N128LJ Gold Rush
>
>
> On Jul 11, 2010, at 11:19 PM, Fred Klein wrote:
>
>>
>> On Jul 11, 2010, at 7:18 PM, JEFF ROBERTS wrote:
>>
>>> I remember reading on one of the post or talking to someone about
>>> it. If you contact Gus at the link below I believe he can tell you,
>>> but someone has purchased one of the UL engines and is getting ready
>>> to put it in his Europa. I believe he was close to the end stage on
>>> that endeavor. Not sure though.
>>
>> Jeff/All,
>>
>> That would be Vaugn Teegarden...n914va@bvunet.net
>> <mailto:n914va@bvunet.net>
>>
>> Fred
>>
>> BTW, if I were looking for an engine today, I would take a serious
>> look at Eggenfelner's new derivative of the Honda Fit engine, though
>> I'm not crazy about his radiator set up nor it's implications for the
>> cowl...see:
>>
>> http://www.vikingaircraftengines.com/products/Products.html
>>
>> (includes two youtube videos)
>>
>> *
>>
>> href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List
>> href="http://forums.matronics.com/">http://forums.matronics.com
>> href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution
>>
>> *
>
> *
>
>
> *
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| Subject: | Check your Landing Gear Retraction Lever Strut (Mod 51) |
*_Check your Landing Gear Retraction Lever Strut (Mod 51)_*
after 10 years in service and some 800 hours with as many landings, my
*_Landing Gear Retraction Lever Strut (Mod 51)_* had an oval oversize
hole at the bottom end (14mm; for the MS 20392-5C37 bolt which is 9,5
mm) and it finally broke at the top (just below the AN 3 bolt probably
due to some misalignment due to the play at the bottom...
no play at the top AN 3 bolt, however!
The three screws on the Landing Gear Retraction Lever at the top seem to
hold (no play)....
I'm still searching for an explanation; my aluminum angle was probably
not strong enough: material thickness: 1,5 mm; L-profile: 20 mm x 8 mm
also the strut is not absolutely straight and there is some sideways
flexibility which may have favored the play...
Klaus
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| Subject: | Re: Anyone considered a ULPOWER UL260i engine |
Hi all.
I am Mark Jones from Galaxy Microlights down at Wing Farm in Wiltshire and I
am a UK Dealer for the UL Power Engines. I Have a UL260i fitted to my Escapade
Microlight and it will be available for engine demonstrations very soon once
I have the noise test completed.
I have been talking with Europa and some interested builders ref fitting the UL260i
engine for a while now and as I understand it there are a good number of
builders interest.
As far as firewall forward is concerned, UL Power via, Galaxy Microlights, can
supply an engine mount for the Europa but I will need some data to be able to
design, build, test and supply the mount ready to fit. I am also looking into
the cowling's for the UL260i installation too, but I will need an aircraft with
and engine fitted to be able to get the best design.
All sales and parts supply are through the UK agents and I am obviously willing
to discuss the engine with you and how we can help with an installation in
a Europa. I will endeavor to answer most of the questions you are likely to put
to me.
I supply the engine as a FULL engine package, which includes all parts to fit
and run the engine in its basic instalation. Nothing else to buy. The package
also incudes the crate, shipping, VAT and 4 ltrs of oil. The engine mount, propellor
and cowls will be at additional cost at this stage, but I hope to do a
full package once it has all been perfected, fitted and proven.
Best Regards
Mark Jones
07841 614577
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=304691#304691
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| Subject: | Ampreg 20 UK north |
Hi Alan,
I'm the other owner of a set of MG Wings in UK - meant to catch you at the
AGM but I missed you - can I contact you off list?
richard.churchill-coleman@sky.com
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From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of TWIGG ALAN
Sent: 12 July 2010 13:02
Subject: Europa-List: Ampreg 20 UK north
Has anyone got some Ampreg 20 left, I have some in Wiltshire but my wings
are with Nev Eyre in Yorkshire, where he has nearly completed them. If
anyone up in the North of UK can help, please get in touch.
Alan Twigg
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
07:36:00
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Here you can see Dirk on a stop-over in Stockholm. I met him an
afternoon
when he had to stay.
A thunderstorm are coming from west.
Specially regards to Karel Vranken (don=B4t forget to buy spark plugs
for
Dirk).
Kjell
SE-XRT
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| Subject: | Re: Check your Landing Gear Retraction Lever Strut (Mod 51) |
Klaus, Mine has gone exactly the same way. I have removed it and am relying
on the original three bolt joint with the two levers also bonded together. I
am also avoiding trailing the plane with the wheel locked in the up
position. Seems fine! Regards, David Joyce, G-XSDJ
----- Original Message -----
From: "klaus dietrich" <klaus.dietrich@oracle.com>
<MCA234@aon.at>
Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 6:29 PM
Subject: Europa-List: Check your Landing Gear Retraction Lever Strut (Mod
51)
> *_Check your Landing Gear Retraction Lever Strut (Mod 51)_*
>
> after 10 years in service and some 800 hours with as many landings, my
> *_Landing Gear Retraction Lever Strut (Mod 51)_* had an oval oversize
> hole at the bottom end (14mm; for the MS 20392-5C37 bolt which is 9,5
> mm) and it finally broke at the top (just below the AN 3 bolt probably
> due to some misalignment due to the play at the bottom...
> no play at the top AN 3 bolt, however!
>
> The three screws on the Landing Gear Retraction Lever at the top seem to
> hold (no play)....
>
> I'm still searching for an explanation; my aluminum angle was probably
> not strong enough: material thickness: 1,5 mm; L-profile: 20 mm x 8 mm
> also the strut is not absolutely straight and there is some sideways
> flexibility which may have favored the play...
>
> Klaus
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Check your Landing Gear Retraction Lever Strut (Mod 51) |
Klaus and others,
Please send me pictures of your elongations or failures of the strut for
me to analyze. If you can provide the type material and thickness also.
Normally 6061 common aluminum angle of 1.6 mm or 1/16 inch is plenty
strong enough.
Elongation of the hole at the bottom indicates slight movement of the
gear lock ,retraction mechanism (most probably in the down position) due
to not staying perfectly vertical with the gear down and eventually the
stresses from bending, as Klaus said, or from the latch slot gear
retraction arm interface bending, and or the three bolts elongation has
caused fatigue of the material or too much force on the aluminum angle
strut.
We will need some look see time to evaluate should if we go to steel or
a specific material/dimensions, time change, or what.
In the mean time, if everyone can look at their Mod 51 landing gear
retraction lever strut brace if over say 500 hours and look for wear, as
soon as you can, and low time planes on your next annual, then send me
updates, I'd appreciate it.
Many thanks,
Bud Yerly,
Europa Tech Assistance.
direct email: budyerly@msn.com<mailto:budyerly@msn.com>
or just hold control key and click below to email
via Europa website:
mailto:enquiries@europa-aircraft.com<mailto:enquiries@europa-aircraft.com
>
via Custom Flight Creations website:
mailto:mail@customflightcreations.com<mailto:mail@customflightcreations.c
om>
----- Original Message -----
From: klaus dietrich<mailto:klaus.dietrich@oracle.com>
To: Europa-List Digest Server<mailto:europa-list@matronics.com> ;
jimmy Keppert<mailto:MCA234@aon.at>
Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 1:29 PM
Subject: Europa-List: Check your Landing Gear Retraction Lever Strut
(Mod 51)
Check your Landing Gear Retraction Lever Strut (Mod 51)
after 10 years in service and some 800 hours with as many landings, my
Landing Gear Retraction Lever Strut (Mod 51) had an oval oversize hole
at the bottom end (14mm; for the MS 20392-5C37 bolt which is 9,5 mm) and
it finally broke at the top (just below the AN 3 bolt probably due to
some misalignment due to the play at the bottom...
no play at the top AN 3 bolt, however!
The three screws on the Landing Gear Retraction Lever at the top seem
to hold (no play)....
I'm still searching for an explanation; my aluminum angle was probably
not strong enough: material thickness: 1,5 mm; L-profile: 20 mm x 8 mm
also the strut is not absolutely straight and there is some sideways
flexibility which may have favored the play...
Klaus
http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List<http://www.matronics.com/N
avigator?Europa-List>
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| Subject: | Check your Landing Gear Retraction Lever Strut (Mod 51) |
Bud
I have not installed Mod 51 and have been flying with lots of landings for
10 years, am I living dangerously? I check the gear and don't see issues but
am I missing something? Am I the only one with out Mod 51?
Jerry
Mono 914
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From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bud Yerly
Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 5:17 PM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Check your Landing Gear Retraction Lever Strut
(Mod 51)
Klaus and others,
Please send me pictures of your elongations or failures of the strut for me
to analyze. If you can provide the type material and thickness also.
Normally 6061 common aluminum angle of 1.6 mm or 1/16 inch is plenty strong
enough.
Elongation of the hole at the bottom indicates slight movement of the gear
lock ,retraction mechanism (most probably in the down position) due to not
staying perfectly vertical with the gear down and eventually the stresses
from bending, as Klaus said, or from the latch slot gear retraction arm
interface bending, and or the three bolts elongation has caused fatigue of
the material or too much force on the aluminum angle strut.
We will need some look see time to evaluate should if we go to steel or a
specific material/dimensions, time change, or what.
In the mean time, if everyone can look at their Mod 51 landing gear
retraction lever strut brace if over say 500 hours and look for wear, as
soon as you can, and low time planes on your next annual, then send me
updates, I'd appreciate it.
Many thanks,
Bud Yerly,
Europa Tech Assistance.
direct email: budyerly@msn.com
or just hold control key and click below to email
via Europa website: mailto:enquiries@europa-aircraft.com
via Custom Flight Creations website: mailto:mail@customflightcreations.com
----- Original Message -----
From: klaus <mailto:klaus.dietrich@oracle.com> dietrich
<mailto:MCA234@aon.at> Keppert
Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 1:29 PM
Subject: Europa-List: Check your Landing Gear Retraction Lever Strut (Mod
51)
Check your Landing Gear Retraction Lever Strut (Mod 51)
after 10 years in service and some 800 hours with as many landings, my
Landing Gear Retraction Lever Strut (Mod 51) had an oval oversize hole at
the bottom end (14mm; for the MS 20392-5C37 bolt which is 9,5 mm) and it
finally broke at the top (just below the AN 3 bolt probably due to some
misalignment due to the play at the bottom...
no play at the top AN 3 bolt, however!
The three screws on the Landing Gear Retraction Lever at the top seem to
hold (no play)....
I'm still searching for an explanation; my aluminum angle was probably not
strong enough: material thickness: 1,5 mm; L-profile: 20 mm x 8 mm
also the strut is not absolutely straight and there is some sideways
flexibility which may have favored the play...
Klaus
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