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1. 12:37 AM - Re: Re: Tail wheel control cables attachment (GRAHAM SINGLETON)
2. 02:49 AM - Re: Bing Carb Checks ----- FAA investigated fatal accident.. (josok-e)
3. 05:52 AM - Tail wheel control cables attachment (Guerner Remi)
4. 06:04 AM - Bing Carb Checks ----- FAA investigated fatal accident.. (Guerner Remi)
5. 06:06 AM - Tail wheel control cables attachment (Guerner Remi)
6. 06:42 AM - FW: Bing Carb Checks ----- FAA investigated fatal accident.. (Guerner Remi)
7. 07:55 AM - Fw: Tech Help re 914 (david miller)
8. 08:31 AM - Re: Fw: Tech Help re 914 (rparigoris)
9. 09:28 AM - Re: Bing Carb Checks ----- FAA investigated fatal accident.. (rampil)
10. 09:40 AM - Any Europa's based/near Gloucestershire Airport, Staverton, Cheltenham? (Peter Zutrauen)
11. 11:57 AM - Re: Fw: Tech Help re 914 (Karl Heindl)
12. 12:01 PM - Trouble shooting engine roughness (Jerry Rehn)
13. 12:36 PM - Re: Texel Fly-in Sept 17-19 2010 (John Wighton)
14. 12:42 PM - Re: ELT mount for free, anyone? (John Wighton)
15. 01:12 PM - Re: Fw: Tech Help re 914 (david miller)
16. 03:15 PM - Re: Fw: Tech Help re 914 (Kevin Klinefelter)
17. 03:54 PM - Re: Fw: Tech Help re 914 (Robert C Harrison)
18. 09:09 PM - Re: FW: Bing Carb Checks ----- FAA investigated fatal accident.. (Fred Klein)
19. 11:05 PM - Mnowheel to tri-gear conversion (mau11)
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Subject: | Re: Tail wheel control cables attachment |
Ron & Remi=0Adon't forget that its better to bend the tailwheel stop than b
end the leg. =0AThat's why I used soft aluminum=0AGraham=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A_
_______________________________=0AFrom: rparigoris <rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny
.us>=0ATo: europa-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Tuesday, 14 September, 2010 6:
17:36=0ASubject: Europa-List: Re: Tail wheel control cables attachment=0A
.us>=0A=0AHi Remi=0A=0AWhen I mentioned I "ripped off" Grahams designed of
his tailwheel stop, I meant =0Athat I copied his design.=0A=0AI did in fact
fabricate it from 7075 Aluminium that is quite robust.=0A=0Ahttp://www.mcm
aster.com/#about-aluminum/=8u6cpz=0A=0Ahttp://www.europaowners.org/forums
/gallery2.php?g2_itemId=28015=0A=0Ahttp://www.europaowners.org/forums/gal
lery2.php?g2_itemId=28009=0A=0AWhat material did you make your stop from?
=0A=0ARon Parigoris=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic online here:=0A=0Ahttp://
forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=312370#312370=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A
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Subject: | Re: Bing Carb Checks ----- FAA investigated fatal accident.. |
Two years ago, one day before my second birthday, we happened to be at the same
table with the brass of the Rotax factory in Wels. And of course the question
about injection popped up. The anwser was that yes, they were working on that,
and their main difficulty was to make the efi programmers understand that in
case of any error the engine was not to shut down, but continue running, They
also suggested that there was an injection engine up and running.
Rotax probably still fails to find a programmer that will and can do that special
job. As for the other items to be improved: Remember there is a certified engine.
Getting a new certification because parts change seems to be very costly...
Changing parts on non-certified engines and divert from the approved stuff
could be very costly because of the US liability threats.
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Subject: | Tail wheel control cables attachment |
Hi Graham,
That is exactly what I think: a design which is being copied is a good
design!
Regards
Remi
<<<<<I consider copying to be a form of flattery
=0AGraham=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A_______
_________________________=0A=0A=0ARemi,=0A=0ABob may have been using
the co
lloquial phrase "ripped off" to mean that he =0Acopied Graham's design
rath
er than that he removed it.=0A=0AFred=0A=0A=0A_=0A>>>>>>>>
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Subject: | Bing Carb Checks ----- FAA investigated fatal accident.. |
Hi, Justin,
This confirms what Jerry said. Good to know!
Remi
<<<<Thus I can say that a Rotax 912s will give 4000 rpm on the
starboard carb o
nly. >>>>>
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Subject: | Tail wheel control cables attachment |
Hi Ron,
Sorry for misunderstanding!
Material is some sort of aluminum alloy. I can't tell you more as I
used a piece of material I found in a trash on the airport. It works
fine!
Remi
<<<<<<<When I mentioned I "ripped off" Grahams designed of his
tailwheel stop, I meant
that I copied his design.
What material did you make your stop from?>>>>>>>>
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Subject: | FW: Bing Carb Checks ----- FAA investigated fatal accident.. |
Frans,
Here are my answers to some of your questions below:
1) Why is the carb attached to a flange that often ruptures and we
have to inspect regularly? :
the problem with the rubber flanges is known to happen on basic
microlight installations where each carb have its own air filter with
no further mechanical support. The carbs then oscillate vertically and
flex the rubber flange, leading to fatigue rupture. When you are using
a properly supported airbox this does not happen. However with the
914 it is a different story as the internal pressure will tend to
disconnect the carbs and the airbox.
2) Why did Rotax not install a carb heater on the 912?
Lycoming and Continental are not supplying a carb heat system ether.
Carb heat installation is usually designed and made by the aircraft
manufacturer. However Rotax offers an optional airbox fitted with the
provision for hot air for the 912 series. It work fine on my Europa.
3) Why does Rotax still sell a voltage regulator which is not up to
its task?
From my experience the Ducati voltage regulator works fine as long
it is cooled properly. There are two ways to do it: on a metal
aircraft, bolt the regulator to the structure which will act as an
heat sink. On composites, provide fresh air with a SCAT ducting to
the cooling fins of the regulator casing.
Remi
F-PGKL Monowheel, 912ULS, 800 hours
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Subject: | Fwd: Tech Help re 914 |
Hi All,
I am forwarding this on behalf of Chris Staines, his Europa is now
parked midway between Ottawa and London, Ont, following some problems
on the return flight.
Ferg has kindly agreed to lend Chris his trailer to retrieve the
aircraft, but as it will be at least a 4 hour drive each way, it
would be nice if we could fly there and effect a repair.
Any suggestions for trouble shooting the problem would be welcomed.
Dave C-FBZI
>>
>>
>> I experienced a partial engine failure, Rotax 914UL.This engine
>> has about seven hundred
>> hours on it and has been in use in my Europa for ten years.
>>
>> The symptoms were as follows.
>>
>> The roughness slowly became worse and could only be reduced by
>> flying at a lower altitude and reducing power.Removing 'boost' and
>> running at lower pressure caused
>> the roughness to disappear but resulted in a loss of airspeed and
>> altitude.Applying throttle cause the engine to stumble and almost
>> stop.
>>
>> On the ground the plugs were noted to have a light layer of black
>> carbon on them,in contrast to their usual tan colour.Replacing the
>> plugs did not help.The engine
>> is usually operated on a premium car gas known to be alcohol
>> free,though for this flight it was partially filled with avgas
>> (about 60%).
>>
>>
>> If you could give me some ideas on what to check it would be
>> greatly appreciated.
>>
>> Sincerely,Chris Staines
>
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Subject: | Re: Fwd: Tech Help re 914 |
Hi Dave
First check for a clogged air filter, but I kinda think the black on plugs may
not be telling you the real problem.
Off the cuff it sounds like he is running out of gas.
Does he have a differential fuel pressure gauge? Does turning on second fuel pump
help?
I suspect it may be as simple as having a clogged fuel filter/s or gasculator/s.
Also check the fuel tank vent for clogging.
Could be the outlet/s of fuel tank are clogged? does turning to reserve help?
Try a check for differential fuel pressure as per Rotax manual, also look up Europa
FWF and check their cheat the fuel pressure regulator to thinking you are
at high altitude and measuring fuel flow.
When was last time carbs were looked at? To be safe make sure you change float
bowl gaskets which you can have leak pressure and cause this sort of thing, but
if you can't have a look at jets and clean them.
Look very careful at plumbing little lines going to carb and fuel pressure regulator
for cracks, splits and kinks.
If cowl is off have a look for broken / leaking exhaust and no soot on exterior
of carbs.
I will have my cell phone on today 631-839-3636 after about noon.
One more thing, if you never cleaned the sock filters in the fuel pump intake consider
them perhaps dirty.
Report back on findings and I will add that to equation.
Good luck.
Ron Parigoris
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Subject: | Re: Bing Carb Checks ----- FAA investigated fatal accident.. |
Nice discussion guys!
Be careful though about manufacturing questions!
If one had the temerity to ask why Lycoming and Continental still
use cork gaskets that melt in ethanol when they could see it coming for
10 years, one might get into a "real" flame war! ;-)
--------
Ira N224XS
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Subject: | Any Europa's based/near Gloucestershire Airport, Staverton, |
Cheltenham?
I ask because I'm finding myself on a likely biz trip in that area on the
first two weeks of November, - and would love to gawk at some finished
Europa's for some inspiration. :-)
Cheers & thx,
Pete
A239
Ottawa, Canada
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Subject: | Fwd: Tech Help re 914 |
It sounds like a simple case of fuel starvation. Maybe a blockage in the fu
el line=2C clogged filters=2C debris in carburetor. The first thing I would
check is the fuel flow=2C with engine off=2C disconnect fuel hose at engin
e side=2C and pump into a bucket for a minute=2C then measure.Good luck=2C
Karl
> From: loboloda@execulink.com
> Subject: Europa-List: Fwd: Tech Help re 914
> Date: Tue=2C 14 Sep 2010 11:04:16 -0400
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
>
>
> Hi All=2C
>
> I am forwarding this on behalf of Chris Staines=2C his Europa is now
> parked midway between Ottawa and London=2C Ont=2C following some problems
> on the return flight.
> Ferg has kindly agreed to lend Chris his trailer to retrieve the
> aircraft=2C but as it will be at least a 4 hour drive each way=2C it
> would be nice if we could fly there and effect a repair.
>
> Any suggestions for trouble shooting the problem would be welcomed.
>
> Dave C-FBZI
>
> >>
> >>
> >> I experienced a partial engine failure=2C Rotax 914UL.This engine
> >> has about seven hundred
> >> hours on it and has been in use in my Europa for ten years.
> >>
> >> The symptoms were as follows.
> >>
> >> The roughness slowly became worse and could only be reduced by
> >> flying at a lower altitude and reducing power.Removing 'boost' and
> >> running at lower pressure caused
> >> the roughness to disappear but resulted in a loss of airspeed and
> >> altitude.Applying throttle cause the engine to stumble and almost
> >> stop.
> >>
> >> On the ground the plugs were noted to have a light layer of black
> >> carbon on them=2Cin contrast to their usual tan colour.Replacing the
> >> plugs did not help.The engine
> >> is usually operated on a premium car gas known to be alcohol
> >> free=2Cthough for this flight it was partially filled with avgas
> >> (about 60%).
> >>
> >>
> >> If you could give me some ideas on what to check it would be
> >> greatly appreciated.
> >>
> >> Sincerely=2CChris Staines
> >
>
>
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Subject: | Trouble shooting engine roughness |
Here is something I have found useful in trouble shooting a rough running
engine.
Jerry
Mono 914
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Subject: | Re: Texel Fly-in Sept 17-19 2010 |
Due to technical issues (including no panel) l will not be going to Texel this
year. I hope all that go have a great and safe trip.
Regards
John
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Subject: | Re: ELT mount for free, anyone? |
Frans,
Darn Dutch people - l spend 5 weeks out of the air to fit an ELT (specifically
for Holland) and they go and change the rules! Refit was more than just an ELT
of course!
I fitted a Kannad 406 with panel switch.
What is the PLB allowed?
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Subject: | Re: Fwd: Tech Help re 914 |
Hi Karl, Jerry & Ron,
Thanks for the responses.
Chris is parked at Peterborough.
I know he has pumped out the fuel to get rid of the Avgas, my guess
is that it is a carb problem.
The weather does not look good for this weekend, so we will probably
take the trailer and Chris can check things out when we get back.
I'll advise what caused the problem once it has been sorted.
Dave
On 14-Sep-10, at 2:53 PM, Karl Heindl wrote:
> It sounds like a simple case of fuel starvation. Maybe a blockage
> in the fuel line, clogged filters, debris in carburetor. The first
> thing I would check is the fuel flow, with engine off, disconnect
> fuel hose at engine side, and pump into a bucket for a minute, then
> measure.
> Good luck,
>
> Karl
>
>
> ===================
> >======
> >
> >
> >
>
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Subject: | Re: Fwd: Tech Help re 914 |
Mine had similar symptoms. I checked and tightened all hose clamps from the
turbo to the carbs. That did it for me.
Kevin
----- Original Message -----
From: "david miller" <loboloda@execulink.com>
Sent: Tuesday, September 14, 2010 8:04 AM
Subject: Europa-List: Fwd: Tech Help re 914
>
> Hi All,
>
> I am forwarding this on behalf of Chris Staines, his Europa is now parked
> midway between Ottawa and London, Ont, following some problems on the
> return flight.
> Ferg has kindly agreed to lend Chris his trailer to retrieve the
> aircraft, but as it will be at least a 4 hour drive each way, it would be
> nice if we could fly there and effect a repair.
>
> Any suggestions for trouble shooting the problem would be welcomed.
>
> Dave C-FBZI
>
>>>
>>>
>>> I experienced a partial engine failure, Rotax 914UL.This engine has
>>> about seven hundred
>>> hours on it and has been in use in my Europa for ten years.
>>>
>>> The symptoms were as follows.
>>>
>>> The roughness slowly became worse and could only be reduced by flying
>>> at a lower altitude and reducing power.Removing 'boost' and running at
>>> lower pressure caused
>>> the roughness to disappear but resulted in a loss of airspeed and
>>> altitude.Applying throttle cause the engine to stumble and almost stop.
>>>
>>> On the ground the plugs were noted to have a light layer of black
>>> carbon on them,in contrast to their usual tan colour.Replacing the
>>> plugs did not help.The engine
>>> is usually operated on a premium car gas known to be alcohol
>>> free,though for this flight it was partially filled with avgas (about
>>> 60%).
>>>
>>>
>>> If you could give me some ideas on what to check it would be greatly
>>> appreciated.
>>>
>>> Sincerely,Chris Staines
>>
>
>
>
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Subject: | Fwd: Tech Help re 914 |
Chris....
Since I've been talking about it on another topic ....where are the carb
bowl pressure balance pipes connected ? Not blocked are they?
Also .....I guess the carb fuel cut off floats are OK ?
Black plugs are telling you over fuel supply somehow or proportionally
shortage of air for clean combustion. Don't suppose any of the air intake
hoses are weak and floppy allowing strangulation?
It the Turbo functioning OK?
Regards
Bob Harrison G-PTAG Rotax 914
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of david miller
Sent: 14 September 2010 16:04
Subject: Europa-List: Fwd: Tech Help re 914
Hi All,
I am forwarding this on behalf of Chris Staines, his Europa is now
parked midway between Ottawa and London, Ont, following some problems
on the return flight.
Ferg has kindly agreed to lend Chris his trailer to retrieve the
aircraft, but as it will be at least a 4 hour drive each way, it
would be nice if we could fly there and effect a repair.
Any suggestions for trouble shooting the problem would be welcomed.
Dave C-FBZI
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Subject: | Re: FW: Bing Carb Checks ----- FAA investigated fatal accident.. |
On Sep 13, 2010, at 2:33 PM, Frans Veldman wrote:
> >
>
> On 09/13/2010 11:03 PM, Fred Klein wrote:
>>
>> ...I'll just bite my tongue and resist further comment...afterall,
>> I'm
>> still building...
>
> Don't get me wrong. I'm happy with my Rotax 914. It is a nice and
> reliable engine.
Frans,
...not at all surprised that you feel that way...and I believe your
feelings expressed above mirror those of (literally) hundreds of other
Europa owners. And I admire your open mind and innovative thinking
behind the mods you've done, on your cooling system for example.
My reluctance to make further comments was solely based on my building
around an alternative fuel-injected engine, with the outcome of that
decision being still uncertain...I'm grateful for my high tolerance of
ambiguity.
Fred
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Subject: | Mnowheel to tri-gear conversion |
X-mailer: Foxmail 6, 15, 201, 22 [cn]
Hi all,
Does anyone have pictures of this conversion?
Mainly, main gear adaptation and fixation.
Thanks
mau11
15-09-2010
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