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Wed 09/15/10


Total Messages Posted: 17



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     1. 01:18 AM - Mixed up text in GS messages.....any clues ?? (Tony Renshaw)
     2. 01:51 AM - Re: Mixed up text in GS messages.....any clues ?? (GRAHAM SINGLETON)
     3. 02:01 AM - Re: Mnowheel to tri-gear conversion (Robert Borger)
     4. 04:55 AM - Re: Re: Mnowheel to tri-gear conversion (mau11)
     5. 05:42 AM - Mobil 1 MX4T Oil (h&jeuropa)
     6. 06:53 AM - Re: Mobil 1 MX4T Oil/ RR (Kevin Klinefelter)
     7. 07:41 AM - Tech Help re 914 (Fergus Kyle)
     8. 07:46 AM - Wordsmith appeal (Fergus Kyle)
     9. 08:24 AM - Re: Tech Help re 914 (Peter Zutrauen)
    10. 10:36 AM - Re: Mobil 1 MX4T Oil/ RR (Jeff B)
    11. 12:05 PM - Final RR up-date #17 (JEFF ROBERTS)
    12. 02:50 PM - Re: Final RR up-date #17 (Jeff B)
    13. 05:39 PM - Re: The Europa(e) Hall in TheEFTP Finland (Raimo Toivio)
    14. 05:39 PM - Re: Final RR up-date #17 (JEFF ROBERTS)
    15. 06:55 PM - Re: Final RR up-date #17 (Fred Klein)
    16. 08:07 PM - Re: Final RR up-date #17 (JEFF ROBERTS)
    17. 08:36 PM - Aircraft Accident (duanefamly@aol.com)
 
 
 


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    Time: 01:18:33 AM PST US
    Subject: Mixed up text in GS messages.....any clues ??
    From: Tony Renshaw <tonyrenshaw268@gmail.com>
    Gidday, Any ideas why Grahams messages always appear to me as below?? They are always worthy of a read, but the presentation is becoming annoying. Reg Tony Renshaw On 15/09/2010, at 4:57 PM, Europa-List Digest Server wrote: > Time: 12:37:33 AM PST US > From: GRAHAM SINGLETON <grahamsingleton@btinternet.com> > Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Tail wheel control cables attachment > > Ron & Remi=0Adon't forget that its better to bend the tailwheel stop than b > end the leg. =0AThat's why I used soft aluminum=0AGraham=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A_ > _______________________________=0AFrom: rparigoris <rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny > .us>=0ATo: europa-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Tuesday, 14 September, 2010 6: > 17:36=0ASubject: Europa-List: Re: Tail wheel control cables attachment=0A > .us>=0A=0AHi Remi=0A=0AWhen I mentioned I "ripped off" Grahams designed of > his tailwheel stop, I meant =0Athat I copied his design.=0A=0AI did in fact > fabricate it from 7075 Aluminium that is quite robust.=0A=0Ahttp://www.mcm > aster.com/#about-aluminum/=8u6cpz=0A=0Ahttp://www.europaowners.org/forums > /gallery2.php?g2_itemId=28015=0A=0Ahttp://www.europaowners.org/forums/gal > lery2.php?g2_itemId=28009=0A=0AWhat material did you make your stop from? > =0A=0ARon Parigoris=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic online here:=0A=0Ahttp:// > forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=312370#312370=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A > ==============


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    Time: 01:51:16 AM PST US
    From: GRAHAM SINGLETON <grahamsingleton@btinternet.com>
    Subject: Re: Mixed up text in GS messages.....any clues ??
    Does anyone else have this problem? I don't know what causes it=0AGraham=0A =0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Tony Renshaw <tonyrens haw268@gmail.com>=0ATo: europa-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Wednesday, 15 Sep tember, 2010 9:16:18=0ASubject: Europa-List: Mixed up text in GS messages.. enshaw268@gmail.com>=0A=0AGidday,=0AAny ideas why Grahams messages always a ppear to me as below?? They are always =0Aworthy of a read, but the present ation is becoming annoying. =0A=0AReg=0ATony Renshaw=0A=0A=0AOn 15/09/2010, at 4:57 PM, Europa-List Digest Server wrote:=0A=0A> Time: 12:37:33 AM PST US=0A> From: GRAHAM SINGLETON <grahamsingleton@btinternet.com>=0A> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Tail wheel control cables attachment=0A> =0A> Ron & R emi=0Adon't forget that its better to bend the tailwheel stop than b=0A> end the leg. =0AThat's why I used soft aluminum=0AGraham=0A=0A=0A =0A=0A=0A_=0A> _______________________________=0AFrom: rparigoris < rparigor@suffolk.lib.ny=0A> .us>=0ATo: europa-list@matronics.com=0ASent : Tuesday, 14 September, 2010 6:=0A> 17:36=0ASubject: Europa-List: Re: Ta il wheel control cables attachment=0A=0A> .us>=0A=0AHi Remi=0A=0A When I mentioned I "ripped off" Grahams designed of =0A> his tailwheel stop , I meant =0Athat I copied his design.=0A=0AI did in fact=0A> fabrica te it from 7075 Aluminium that is quite robust.=0A=0Ahttp://www.mcm=0A> aster.com/#about-aluminum/=8u6cpz=0A=0Ahttp://www.europaowners.org/f orums=0A> /gallery2.php?g2_itemId=28015=0A=0Ahttp://www.europaowners. org/forums/gal=0A> lery2.php?g2_itemId=28009=0A=0AWhat material did y ou make your stop from?=0A> =0A=0ARon Parigoris=0A=0A=0A=0A=0 ARead this topic online here:=0A=0Ahttp://=0A> forums.matronics.com/vie wtopic.php?p=312370#312370=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A> == =========================0A ======


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    Time: 02:01:59 AM PST US
    From: Robert Borger <rlborger@mac.com>
    Subject: Re: Mnowheel to tri-gear conversion
    Maul1, Yes, I just completed this conversion and have pictures of the entire process. I am departing Florida for home (N.Tex.) in about 15 minutes. I should be home Thursday afternoon some time. I will send you pictures of the final installation, inside and out, at that time. Eventually, I'll be posting a full section on my Europa Owners website. Check six, Bob Borger http://www.europaowners.org/N914XL Europa XS, Short Wing, Intercooled Rotax 914 rlborger@mac.com Cel: 817-992-1117 On Sep 15, 2010, at 2:02 AM, mau11 wrote: > Hi all, > Does anyone have pictures of this conversion? > > Mainly, main gear adaptation and fixation. > > Thanks > > > > mau11 > 15-09-2010 > > > >


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    Time: 04:55:45 AM PST US
    From: "mau11" <mau11@free.fr>
    Subject: Re: Mnowheel to tri-gear conversion
    X-mailer: Foxmail 6, 15, 201, 22 [cn] Hi Bob, Thanks for your answer I wait yours pictures. Regards Michel AUVRAY 15-09-2010 mau11 De : Robert Borger Date/heure : 15-09-2010 11:05:13 A : europa-list Cc : Sujet : Re: Europa-List: Mnowheel to tri-gear conversion Maul1, Yes, I just completed this conversion and have pictures of the entire process. I am departing Florida for home (N.Tex.) in about 15 minutes. I should be home Thursday afternoon some time. I will send you pictures of the final installation, inside and out, at that time. Eventually, I'll be posting a full section on my Europa Owners website. Check six, Bob Borger http://www.europaowners.org/N914XL Europa XS, Short Wing, Intercooled Rotax 914 rlborger@mac.com Cel: 817-992-1117 On Sep 15, 2010, at 2:02 AM, mau11 wrote: Hi all, Does anyone have pictures of this conversion? Mainly, main gear adaptation and fixation. Thanks mau11 15-09-2010 href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution


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    Time: 05:42:56 AM PST US
    Subject: Mobil 1 MX4T Oil
    From: "h&amp;jeuropa" <butcher43@att.net>
    Can anyone use 9 quarts of MX4T oil? We've switched to Aeroshell and have 9 quarts left. $50 for the lot. Can deliver to Rough River. Jim & Heather N241BW Do Not Archive Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=312507#312507


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    Time: 06:53:03 AM PST US
    From: "Kevin Klinefelter" <kevann@gotsky.com>
    Subject: Re: Mobil 1 MX4T Oil/ RR
    Hi Jim, That's a deal! See you at RR. We west coasters plan to arrive Friday afternoon. Kevin N211KA > Can anyone use 9 quarts of MX4T oil? We've switched to Aeroshell and have > 9 quarts left. $50 for the lot. Can deliver to Rough River. > > Jim & Heather > N241BW > > Do Not Archive > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=312507#312507 > > >


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    Time: 07:41:16 AM PST US
    From: "Fergus Kyle" <VE3LVO@rac.ca>
    Subject: Tech Help re 914
    I'm no techie, especially on 914s but, doesn't black deposit on plugs indicate running rich? And since it seems to be a small deposit on normally- brown, would this not infer the latest change - i.e: cause? Flames best sent off-list....... Cheers ferg


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    Time: 07:46:02 AM PST US
    From: "Fergus Kyle" <VE3LVO@rac.ca>
    Subject: Wordsmith appeal
    I am aware of our need to be forthright and complete in our list. As technically-oriented people, the line between interested brains should be straight. However, in case my child-bride ever stumbles upon this list, could we not change the thread from "Bing Carb Checks ----- FAA investigated fatal accident" to "Bing Carb Checks ---- FAA investigated failed recovery accident'? Ferg


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    Time: 08:24:56 AM PST US
    From: Peter Zutrauen <peterz@zutrasoft.com>
    Subject: Re: Tech Help re 914
    hi Ferg! It would be my understanding that any plug analysis only indicates the mixture condition for the last couple minutes of running - likely during th e taxi phase. Cheers, Pete A239 your neighbor in Ottawa! On Wed, Sep 15, 2010 at 10:32 AM, Fergus Kyle <VE3LVO@rac.ca> wrote: > I=92m no techie, especially on 914s but, doesn=92t black deposit on plug s > indicate running rich? And since it seems to be a small deposit on > normally- brown, would this not infer > > the latest change ' i.e: cause? > > Flames best sent off-list....... > > Cheers ferg > > * > =========== =========== =========== =========== > * > >


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    Time: 10:36:41 AM PST US
    From: Jeff B <topglock@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: Mobil 1 MX4T Oil/ RR
    ...As do we Southerners... :) Jeff - Baby Blue On 9/15/2010 8:49 AM, Kevin Klinefelter wrote: > We west coasters plan to arrive Friday afternoon. > Kevin > N211KA


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    Time: 12:05:03 PM PST US
    From: JEFF ROBERTS <jeff@rmmm.net>
    Subject: Final RR up-date #17
    Guy's & Gals, Check out the Louisville KY weather report for the 10 day outlook. I know this can change. and I don't like to count chickens from eggs but, ..... it really looks like this is turning out better than we could have ask for. http://www.weather.com/outlook/health/fitness/tenday/USKY1096 Don't forget for anyone driving in gas cans and beer are premium at Rough River. Here is the schedule I sent out last week. Friday we have supper scheduled at 6:P Central. It's in the room sectioned off from the regular restaurant. Saturday breakfast at 8:30AM in the same room with meeting to follow. Meeting moves to the flight line at no scheduled time. Weather permitting flying will commence with lots of cowl pulling and interesting talk. We will also have the airport lounge and the porch area to use. Lunch can happen anytime individually. Meeting room scheduled for a 5:P supper. We can stay or head back to the runway for more flying and conversation. Lets all pray for the big high pressure over America and having safe travel for all. Jeff R. N128LJ Gold Rush. > Lates Attendees: > Jeff & Mary Buhrans - N55XS Flying Baby Blue in. > Jeff & Karen Roberts - N128LJ Gold Rush Flying In > Troy & Donna Maynor - Flying his brand new Mono Classic ;o).. > Jim & Lynne Puglise - Driving the air conditioned control tower, > beer bar, meeting place/motor home. ;o) > John & Susan Lawton - N245E Flying his Jab powered Europa > Bob & Maureen Borger N914XL Flying In from Texas in... Little Dragon > Lady. > Paul McAllister... N378PJ Back in the country and getting new cowl > mods ready. > Jim & Heather Butcher - Flying in > Bud Yearly - N12AY Flying in... Yea Bud! > Jim Brown - N398JB - AKA JimBob. Flying up with Bud in formation. > Keep em separate boys! > John & Paddy Wigney - Flying in the good ship N262WF > Jim Woolnough - Via the big iron and driving from Louisville. > Creighton Smith A-036 - Via the big iron with Jim... Welcome aboard > mates! > Great to have the west coast boys. > Bob Lindsay - Flying in N77EU Turbo Toy. Flight of 3 maybe 4 > Erich Trombley - Flying in N28ET Classic mono 914. Flight of 3 maybe 4 > Kim Prout - Flying in N111EU The classic mono featured in July Kit > Planes Magazine Flight of 3 maybe 4 > And Here's to Kevin Klinefelter N211KA getting in on the fun!! Let > us know Kevin when you can... Maybe the 4th of the 3 ;0) > Fred Kline.... All the way from Orcas Island, WA > William McCellan Building A164 XS conventional gear Jab. Flying the > big iron with Fred. > Michael Grass Building A286 Tri-gear. Flying in from Detroit in his > C -150 Welcome Michael! Annual Rough River Fly In. September 17th & 18th 2010 and beyond!


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    Time: 02:50:45 PM PST US
    From: Jeff B <topglock@cox.net>
    Subject: Re: Final RR up-date #17
    Looks like a repeat of RR1 Jeff On 9/15/2010 2:01 PM, JEFF ROBERTS wrote: > Guy's & Gals, > Check out the Louisville KY weather report for the 10 day outlook. I > know this can change. and I don't like to count chickens from eggs but, > ..... it really looks like this is turning out better than we could have > ask for. > > http://www.weather.com/outlook/health/fitness/tenday/USKY1096 > > > Don't forget for anyone driving in gas cans and beer are premium at > Rough River. > > > Here is the schedule I sent out last week. > > > Friday we have supper scheduled at 6:P Central. It's in the room > sectioned off from the regular restaurant. > > Saturday breakfast at 8:30AM in the same room with meeting to follow. > Meeting moves to the flight line at no scheduled time. Weather > permitting flying will commence with lots of cowl pulling and > interesting talk. We will also have the airport lounge and the porch > area to use. Lunch can happen anytime individually. > > Meeting room scheduled for a 5:P supper. We can stay or head back to the > runway for more flying and conversation. > > Lets all pray for the big high pressure over America and having safe > travel for all. > > Jeff R. N128LJ Gold Rush. > > >> Lates Attendees: > >> Jeff & Mary Buhrans - N55XS Flying Baby Blue in. >> Jeff & Karen Roberts - N128LJ Gold Rush Flying In >> Troy & Donna Maynor - Flying his brand new Mono Classic ;o).. >> Jim & Lynne Puglise - Driving the air conditioned control >> tower, beer bar, meeting place/motor home. ;o) >> John & Susan Lawton - N245E Flying his Jab powered Europa >> Bob & Maureen Borger N914XL Flying In from Texas in... Little >> Dragon Lady. >> Paul McAllister... N378PJ Back in the country and getting new >> cowl mods ready. >> Jim & Heather Butcher - Flying in >> Bud Yearly - N12AY Flying in... Yea Bud! >> Jim Brown - N398JB - AKA JimBob. Flying up with Bud in >> formation. Keep em separate boys! >> John & Paddy Wigney - Flying in the good ship N262WF >> Jim Woolnough - Via the big iron and driving from Louisville. >> Creighton Smith A-036 - Via the big iron with Jim... Welcome >> aboard mates! >> Great to have the west coast boys. >> Bob Lindsay - Flying in N77EU Turbo Toy. Flight of 3 maybe 4 >> Erich Trombley - Flying in N28ET Classic mono 914. Flight of 3 >> maybe 4 >> Kim Prout - Flying in N111EU The classic mono featured in July >> Kit Planes Magazine Flight of 3 maybe 4 >> And Here's to Kevin Klinefelter N211KA getting in on the fun!! >> Let us know Kevin when you can... Maybe the 4th of the 3 ;0) >> Fred Kline.... All the way from Orcas Island, WA >> William McCellan Building A164 XS conventional gear Jab. >> Flying the big iron with Fred. >> Michael Grass Building A286 Tri-gear. Flying in from Detroit >> in his C -150 Welcome Michael! > > > Annual Rough River Fly In. September 17th & 18th 2010 and beyond! > > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >


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    Time: 05:39:15 PM PST US
    From: "Raimo Toivio" <raimo.toivio@rwm.fi>
    Subject: Re: The Europa(e) Hall in TheEFTP Finland
    From: Robert Borger Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 4:45 AM Subject: Re: Europa-List: The Europa(e) Hall in TheEFTP Finland Raimo, Good work! Great shop/hanger/bar&grill! How 'bout some pics of the inside? *** Bob, finally today I took some pics as you requested - be my guest and I really wish you like: EH1: it is upp on the little hill. At the right side there is a water tower (today uncoated, normally he is dressed in navy blue) to get water for roses and to wash a plane. Not so warm today any more - only 12C. EH2: some foldable transportation vehicles like one ordinary kickboard, two electric ones and two cyckles (one light [Tunturi made in Finland] and one the lightest in the world [Sir Sinclair, A-Bike), all possible to load into Europa. Behind the photo "three beauties" you remember (oh yes that is Canarian Yeallow fuckin Lamborghini Gallardo Spider LPS 560). EH3: rigg/derigg aids and a security box for tailplanes*, my Europa story stand, a lawn mover and some traffic guides. * I like to take care of my tailplanes. EH4: an electric remote controlled tow machine for Europa, the wire lenght is 15 metres (it is quite easy to pull it by man power into hangar but there is a potential risk then to lift a tail and get a damaged prop - that is a main reason to use a tow machine), capasity to pull is 250 kgs - it uses around 40 kgs. EH5: a kitchen and a work shop with all the necessary tools. Behind there is a man-powered crank to lift one side of the door. EH7: an office. Notice a prop blade - that was a 10th wedding day gift from only Finnish operational DC3 crew. At right side there is a fridge full of pre-flight drinks and also after-flight frinks. The Text "nauti oikeassa lampotilassa" means about "please do enjoy when temperature is good". Under the F-16 poster there are strings which my wife got RNLAF (Royal Netherlands Airforce) one month ago. Actually she got 4 pairs, three of them are in use. EH8: there is she is and behind some aviation art - old b&w photos. EH9: - " - EH10: Hangar=B4s roof is a huge illuminated sign - quite visible when flying over day and night. EH11: This hangar has a principle: FIFO (first in, first out) and NHC (no hangar crashes). That leather was once a huge cow. EH12: -"- EH13: a shelf for some necessary items like a full rate ADSL, some aviation gizmos, litherature, maps, power reserve (= battery charger, battery [accu!] and inverter in series) for alarm systems, some spares etc you know. This hangar has 4 cameras outside and two inside, one local alarm and one with an IP-address. If something moves there I will get a message to my gsm phone and everythnig is recorded into a safe server 24/7. EH14: because I am a patriotic, that is painted to the asphalt also! EH15: flying is nice but to keep it in that status life must be wonderful also before and after flying. That is why a little BBQ is great with family or with good friends. Today it was raining but this summer has been one of the best in my life. BTW the runway is just behind Piper, taxiing about 500 metres, runways 24&06. Some of you (let=B4s say 10) have visited EFTP but only one during this summer (as I know) - he was my friend Dirk van Oyen from Belgium with his magnificent OO-145. That was a surprise for me. He had planned it with my wife. I was there. She said "look that plane"! I looked and that looked just like Europa. Who the hell is coming here? Rest is th history. Thanks, Raimo Terveisin, Raimo Toivio Europa XS Mono OH-XRT #417 +182 hrs 37500 Lemp=E4=E4l=E4 FINLAND p +358-3-3753 777 f +358-3-3753 100 toivio@fly.to www.rwm.fi From: Robert Borger Sent: Friday, June 18, 2010 4:45 AM Subject: Re: Europa-List: The Europa(e) Hall in TheEFTP Finland Bob Borger Europa Kit #A221 N914XL, XS Mono, Intercooled 914, Airmaster C/S http://www.europaowners.org/forums/gallery2.php?g2_itemId=60232 http://www.biplaneforumgallery.com/index.php?cat=10046 Europa Flying! 3705 Lynchburg Dr. Corinth, TX 76208 Home: 940-497-2123 Cel: 817-992-1117 On Jun 17, 2010, at 19:39, Raimo Toivio wrote: Europa Community - All of You ! I wanna share this moment instantly with all of you around the globe. I am writing this time 0330 AM - I came just from The EFTP. Last time when I have been airborne and a pilot was 13th of November 2009. That was because OH-XRT (and many other poor planes here) lost her hangar space in The EFTP. That was a serious business! I decided to make my own hangar and I call it The Europa[e] Hall ! That is why I have been really busy during last weeks! It was completed tonight! Look at the attached photo! If you check it carefully, you will notice Europa=B4s official logo is slightly modified in this case! Inside - there is a little bar, grill, service shop, alarm, safety cams via internet recording ability, some aviation gizmos, nose artist girls and other necessary equipments. It=B4s size is just compact 9 x 12 m2. My wife certainly planted some rose bushes beside it! Because it is on a little hill, it is equipped also with an electric tow machine to pull RT inside (she is so fat lady that even for me it is almost too hard task to pull her inside manually). I trailered today OH-XRT from her home hangar from Lempaala to The EFTP and had also my first aviation session today. I was thrilled - I have been grounded over seven months. Could I fly any more (that wild tail wheeled mono)? Rotax fired upp immediately. Everything was ok. I taxied about 15 minutes and it felt so good! After I did some touch and goes and it felt also good or even better if possible. I did some of my best landings - Europa is really landable from the first touch to the final stop using less than 300 metres runway. After that I had a local flight 50 minutes. That seven months meant nothing - I felt as I had been airborne yesterday. Obviously flying Europa has gone to my backbone and more or less to my ass too! I feel COMPLETELY happy now! You there around the globe and still building: build it fast - just do it and complete it ! What sooner that better - it is really worth of it! Terveisin, Raimo Toivio (v=E4h=E4n mopo nyt keulii mutta antaa sen keulia) Europa XS Mono OH-XRT #417 155.10 hrs and 315 happy landings! 37500 Lempaala FINLAND p +358-3-3753 777 f +358-3-3753 100 toivio@fly.to www.rwm.fi <The Europa(e) Hall in The EFTP (Finland).JPG>


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    Time: 05:39:22 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Final RR up-date #17
    From: JEFF ROBERTS <Jeff@rmmm.net>
    I'm afraid I have some bad news. Looks like I'll be driving. I just removed my cowl and found a crack in the engine frame right where mode 72 belongs. I have just now started the long process of dismantling the engine. I'm wondering if I should have the frame / crack welded before I put the mod inserts in. I have them but have just put off doing the mod thinking I'll wait till the winter annual. Bummer. I don't think there's time before Friday but i'm working on it. You still need to fly-in here if you can. I'll gas you up then Karen & I will just drive on up If I don't have it done. Jeff R On Sep 15, 2010, at 4:45 PM, Jeff B wrote: > > Looks like a repeat of RR1 > > Jeff > > On 9/15/2010 2:01 PM, JEFF ROBERTS wrote: >> Guy's & Gals, >> Check out the Louisville KY weather report for the 10 day outlook. I >> know this can change. and I don't like to count chickens from eggs >> but, >> ..... it really looks like this is turning out better than we could >> have >> ask for. >> >> http://www.weather.com/outlook/health/fitness/tenday/USKY1096 >> >> >> >> Don't forget for anyone driving in gas cans and beer are premium at >> Rough River. >> >> >> >> >> Here is the schedule I sent out last week. >> >> >> Friday we have supper scheduled at 6:P Central. It's in the room >> sectioned off from the regular restaurant. >> >> Saturday breakfast at 8:30AM in the same room with meeting to follow. >> Meeting moves to the flight line at no scheduled time. Weather >> permitting flying will commence with lots of cowl pulling and >> interesting talk. We will also have the airport lounge and the porch >> area to use. Lunch can happen anytime individually. >> >> Meeting room scheduled for a 5:P supper. We can stay or head back >> to the >> runway for more flying and conversation. >> >> Lets all pray for the big high pressure over America and having safe >> travel for all. >> >> Jeff R. N128LJ Gold Rush. >> >> >> >>> Lates Attendees: >> >>> Jeff & Mary Buhrans - N55XS Flying Baby Blue in. >>> Jeff & Karen Roberts - N128LJ Gold Rush Flying In >>> Troy & Donna Maynor - Flying his brand new Mono Classic ;o).. >>> Jim & Lynne Puglise - Driving the air conditioned control >>> tower, beer bar, meeting place/motor home. ;o) >>> John & Susan Lawton - N245E Flying his Jab powered Europa >>> Bob & Maureen Borger N914XL Flying In from Texas in... Little >>> Dragon Lady. >>> Paul McAllister... N378PJ Back in the country and getting new >>> cowl mods ready. >>> Jim & Heather Butcher - Flying in >>> Bud Yearly - N12AY Flying in... Yea Bud! >>> Jim Brown - N398JB - AKA JimBob. Flying up with Bud in >>> formation. Keep em separate boys! >>> John & Paddy Wigney - Flying in the good ship N262WF >>> Jim Woolnough - Via the big iron and driving from Louisville. >>> Creighton Smith A-036 - Via the big iron with Jim... Welcome >>> aboard mates! >>> Great to have the west coast boys. >>> Bob Lindsay - Flying in N77EU Turbo Toy. Flight of 3 maybe 4 >>> Erich Trombley - Flying in N28ET Classic mono 914. Flight >>> of 3 >>> maybe 4 >>> Kim Prout - Flying in N111EU The classic mono featured in >>> July >>> Kit Planes Magazine Flight of 3 maybe 4 >>> And Here's to Kevin Klinefelter N211KA getting in on the >>> fun!! >>> Let us know Kevin when you can... Maybe the 4th of the 3 ;0) >>> Fred Kline.... All the way from Orcas Island, WA >>> William McCellan Building A164 XS conventional gear Jab. >>> Flying the big iron with Fred. >>> Michael Grass Building A286 Tri-gear. Flying in from Detroit >>> in his C -150 Welcome Michael! >> >> >> >> Annual Rough River Fly In. September 17th & 18th 2010 and beyond! >> >> >> >> >> >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> > >


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    Time: 06:55:38 PM PST US
    From: Fred Klein <fklein@orcasonline.com>
    Subject: Re: Final RR up-date #17
    On Sep 15, 2010, at 5:16 PM, JEFF ROBERTS wrote: > I'm wondering if I should have the frame / crack welded before I put > the mod inserts in. Bummer Jeff...but better to have discovered it now than to have some rubbernecker at RR point it out! Others will have more technical knowledge than I, but if it were my plane, I would most certainly make a weld repair before reaming for the Mod 72 inserts. Fred


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    Time: 08:07:03 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Final RR up-date #17
    From: JEFF ROBERTS <Jeff@rmmm.net>
    Fred, Thats what I was thinking. Looking for a good welder now. Jeff R. N128LJ Gold Rush On Sep 15, 2010, at 8:52 PM, Fred Klein wrote: > > > On Sep 15, 2010, at 5:16 PM, JEFF ROBERTS wrote: > >> I'm wondering if I should have the frame / crack welded before I >> put the mod inserts in. > > Bummer Jeff...but better to have discovered it now than to have some > rubbernecker at RR point it out! > > Others will have more technical knowledge than I, but if it were my > plane, I would most certainly make a weld repair before reaming for > the Mod 72 inserts. > > Fred > >


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    Subject: Aircraft Accident
    From: duanefamly@aol.com
    Aircraft Accident Brace yourself before looking at the attached image. A pilot at low leve l loses control over his aircraft. It narrowly misses a crowd gathered for the air show and slams into four buildings. One can only imagine the horror of the occupants trapped inside those buildings. Brace yourself before looking at the attached image. A pilot at low leve l loses control over his aircraft. It narrowly misses a crowd gathered for the air show and slams into four buildings. One can only imagine the horror of the occupants trapped inside those buildings. Sorry....I couldn't resist. By: brucelgn File Name: ATT000011.jpg Posted: Sep 15, 2010 By: brucelgn File Name: ATT000011.jpg Posted: Sep 15, 2010




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