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     1. 12:36 AM - Re: Re: Europa Classic fuel filler pipe (GRAHAM SINGLETON)
     2. 12:41 AM - Re: Re: JABIRU etc. Keep your ear to the ground. (GRAHAM SINGLETON)
     3. 12:45 AM - Re: Re: JABIRU etc. Keep your ear to the ground. (GRAHAM SINGLETON)
     4. 01:26 AM - Re: The demise of AvGas (Nigel Graham)
     5. 02:17 AM - Engine Hoods (Tony Renshaw)
     6. 02:23 AM - Re: The demise of AvGas (Remi Guerner)
     7. 02:53 AM - Re: The demise of AvGas (Frans Veldman)
     8. 03:05 AM - Re: Engine Hoods (GRAHAM SINGLETON)
     9. 03:52 AM - Re: Engine Hoods (Tony Renshaw)
    10. 04:16 AM - Re: Engine Hoods (Karl Heindl)
    11. 05:57 AM - Re: Engine Hoods (Paul McAllister)
    12. 07:40 AM - Re: The demise of AvGas (Robert Borger)
    13. 07:53 AM - Re: Engine Hoods (rampil)
    14. 08:02 AM - Re: The demise of AvGas (Peter Zutrauen)
    15. 08:20 AM - Re: The demise of AvGas (rampil)
    16. 08:44 AM - Engine hoods (Fred Klein)
    17. 10:31 AM - timing issues (Fred Klein)
    18. 10:36 AM - Re: Re: Europa Classic fuel filler pipe (Karl Heindl)
    19. 12:02 PM - Re: fuel pressure problem, urgent (tennant)
    20. 12:35 PM - Re: fuel pressure problem, urgent (europapa)
    21. 01:22 PM - 914 TACH/EMSD-10 (Fergus Kyle)
    22. 01:45 PM - Re: timing issues (Greg Fuchs)
    23. 02:41 PM - Re: Re: fuel pressure problem, urgent (GRAHAM SINGLETON)
    24. 03:18 PM - Re: Engine Hoods (Bud Yerly)
    25. 06:03 PM - Re: Engine Hoods (Fred Klein)
    26. 08:26 PM - New "constant speed" blade profile offered by Warp Drive for higher speed aircraft (glenn crowder)
    27. 08:43 PM - Re: New "constant speed" blade profile offered by Warp Drive for higher speed aircraft (Fred Klein)
    28. 09:52 PM - Re: 914 TACH/EMSD-10 (Lisbet og Gert Dalgaard)
 
 
 
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| Subject:  | Re: Europa Classic fuel filler pipe | 
      
      Graeme=0Athere are a lot of Classics with solid aluminium filler pipe. Only
       sensible way =0Ato go imho and I think LAA should allow it. It must be alr
      eady approved=0AGraham=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0A
      From: Luc Michaud <rambug@gmail.com>=0ATo: europa-list@matronics.com=0ASent
      : Tuesday, 19 April, 2011 3:39:50=0ASubject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Europa Cl
      assic fuel filler pipe=0A=0ASame here, also interested in an aluminium fuel
       filler pipe for my Classic.=0A=0A=0AOn Mon, Apr 18, 2011 at 16:26, graeme 
      raeme bird" <graeme@gdbmk.co.uk>=0A>=0A>I am still interesting in fitting o
      ne of these if there has been any progress or =0A>you have the updated draw
      ing.=0A>Regards=0A>=0A>--------=0A>Graeme Bird=0A>G-UMPY=0A>Mono Classic/XS
       FWFD 912ULS/Warp drive FP=0A>Build nearing completion=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>R
      ead this topic online here:=0A>=0A>http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.ph
      p?p=337405#337405=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>========
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| Subject:  | Re: JABIRU etc.  Keep your ear to the ground. | 
      
      Jeff=0Aprayer sent for your son, and all the others.=0AI don't blame Oby bu
      t I seriously balme Bernake. The banks have us all over the =0Abarrel and a
      re stripping us out. The politicians are all in hock to the banks =0Aand bb
      ig biz.=0ASorry for all this guys, I do get would up when I look back and s
      ee what they've =0Aall done. Worse, are doing it all again.=0ABack to aviat
      ion, "roll on electric!"=0AGraham=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A_____________________
      ___________=0AFrom: Jeffrey Roberts <jeff@rmmm.net>=0ATo: europa-list@matro
      nics.com=0ASent: Tuesday, 19 April, 2011 3:14:36=0ASubject: Re: Europa-List
      : Re: JABIRU etc.  Keep your ear to the ground.=0A=0AGram,=0AYes indeed it 
      was the MR. Bush. In my opinion he was the worst until this one =0Abut in a
       somewhat different way. This one is really good at saying one thing =0Athe
      n doing something else. Some seem to defend todays leadership by comparing 
      it =0Aas better than Bush. They both have placed us on a collision course t
      o what =0Ahappened in Greece. Only this President seems to be speeding up t
      he process. =0A=0AOh and Fred you have my apologizes. I was truly not tryin
      g to offend. I indeed =0Ashould have said I and not we or us. I'm just real
      ly ticked off at whats =0Ahappened in the last 10 years here. My only son i
      s in the mountains of =0AAfghanistan in the middle of a one year Army deplo
      yment. Needless to say we are =0Avery proud of him but scared to death. Whe
      n I turn on the morning news I hear =0Amore about the royal wedding than wh
      at our young people are trying to accomplish =0Aand the sacrifices they and
       their families are making.  I wonder if we would be =0Atrying to fight a p
      olite political war if the idiots in Washington had their own =0Asons fight
      ing on the ground. Hell these poor soldiers can't even engage the =0Aenemy 
      without pre approval. Needless to say politics are not one of my favorite 
      =0Asubjects right now. =0AI will ask anyone that will, to take a few minute
      s and say a prayer for our =0Asoldiers. =0A=0AI'm going to quit now as this
       forum needs to get back to solutions for the =0Abuilder & flyers of our gr
      eat Europa... which BTW I'm having a few but that can =0Await.=0A=0ARegards
      ,=0AJeff N128LJ Gold Rush=0A=0A=0A=0AOn Apr 18, 2011, at 5:53 PM, GRAHAM SI
      NGLETON wrote:=0A=0AJeff=0A>wasn't it the ShruB created the biggest deficit
       in history and started all this =0A>QE,  ? =0A>Graham=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A>
      =0A>=0A________________________________=0AFrom: Fred Klein <fklein@orcasonl
      ine.com>=0A>To: europa-list@matronics.com=0A>Sent: Monday, 18 April, 2011 1
      9:22:05=0A>Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: JABIRU etc. Keep your ear to the g
      line.com>=0A>=0A>=0A>On Apr 18, 2011, at 10:37 AM, Jeffrey Roberts wrote:
      =0A>=0A>> We are all getting rather tired of the few wanna tax & spend libe
      ral hollywood =0A>>types getting into our pockets and running this country 
      into the ground.=0A>=0A>    I'm always fascinated when someone takes it upo
      n himself to speak on behalf =0A>of "all" of us...and...it reveals to me ju
      st a hint of the pitfalls we can land =0A>in when we go off-Europa-topic.
      =0A>=0A>F href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List" target=
      "_blank">p;       =0A>          -Matt Dralle, Libution" ======
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      opa-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List=0A> href="http:/
      /forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com =0A>href="http://www.m
      atronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution=0A>  =0A>
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| Subject:  | Re: JABIRU etc.  Keep your ear to the ground. | 
      
      Hi Bob=0AI still blame the banks and Wall street. Politicians are just pupp
      ets usually=0AGraham=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom:
       Robert Borger <rlborger@mac.com>=0ATo: europa-list@matronics.com=0ASent: T
      uesday, 19 April, 2011 3:08:49=0ASubject: Re: Europa-List: Re: JABIRU etc. 
       Keep your ear to the ground.=0A=0AGraham,=0A=0AThe deficit increased consi
      derably under Bush for the years 2003 - 2005 with the =0A2004 deficit reach
      ing a record (at the time) $462.56 billion.  The previous =0Arecord being $
      438.5 billion in 1992.  By 2006 it had almost been cut in half =0Afrom the 
      2004 deficit and in 2007 it was down to a "mere" $165.24 billion. =0A BHO's
       first year was a  mind boggling $1,416 billion followed by $1,294 billion 
      =0Aand for 2011 $1,650 billion.=0A=0AThose are inflation adjusted numbers t
      o 2011.  If you looked at the =0Anon-inflation adjusted dollar amounts, the
       Bush years don't really look as bad.=0A=0AWhat made Bush look bad was the 
      fact he came in with a two year budget surplus =0Aand held a budget surplus
       through 2001.  He had been expected to be more =0Afiscally conservative th
      an he turned out to be.  The result of his unpopular =0Aspending was the ab
      andonment of the Republican Party by the Conservative base in =0A2008 (they
       stayed home in droves on election day).  So the Socialists won and we =0Ag
      ot BHO, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid & Co. and $4,360 billion debt generated in
       3 =0Ayears.  Makes "ShruB," as you derisively put it, look downright thrif
      ty.=0A=0A=0ABob Borger =0A=0AOn Apr 18, 2011, at 17:53, GRAHAM SINGLETON wr
      ote:=0A=0AJeff=0A>wasn't it the ShruB created the biggest deficit in histor
      y and started all this =0A>QE,  ? =0A>Graham=0A>=0A>=0A>=0A
      
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| Subject:  | Re: The demise of AvGas | 
      
      
      
      On 19/04/2011 07:32, Frans Veldman wrote:
      > .....snip......
      > ..... go straight to Diesel or propane. Here in the Netherlands about 1/3th of
      the
      > gas cars has been converted to run on propane (LPG)
      
      .........and just how much does a propane tank weigh and what would that 
      do for the Europa's C of G and performance?  ;-)
      
      Nigel
      
      
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      Gidday,
      I am wondering if there is any consensus to a way to open up the lid of the cowl,
      exposing the engine easily for our birds? To be honest, I am sure a car style
      bonnet would be the most ideal, and I am wondering if anyone has attempted
      it??
      Reg
      Tony Renshaw
      Sydney Australia
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: The demise of AvGas | 
      
      
      Hi Frans,
      Regarding octane numbers, be careful to compare apples to apples.
      AVGAS 100LL has a MON (Motor Octane Number)of 100. 
      A different scale is used for MOGAS. In Europe, our unleaded 98 Mogas is 98 RON
      (Research Octane Number)  which is equivalent to 87-88 MON. Unleaded 95 Mogas
      is 95 RON which is equivalent to 85 MON.
      So the best unleaded MOGAS has an octane number which is way below AVGAS's. This
      why existing MOGAS cannot be used on the typical air cooled aircraft engines
      except for the lowest compression ones.  
      Developing a 100 MON unleaded aviation fuel is certainly possible, but due to low
      volume and more stringent specifications it will for sure be a lot more expensive
      than any Mogas. So I share your opinion not to invest in an engine designed
      to run on AVGAS only.    
      Regards
      Remi
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=337453#337453
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: The demise of AvGas | 
      
      
      On 04/19/2011 10:23 AM, Nigel Graham wrote:
      >> ..... go straight to Diesel or propane. Here in the Netherlands about
      >> 1/3th of the
      >> gas cars has been converted to run on propane (LPG)
      > 
      > .........and just how much does a propane tank weigh and what would that
      > do for the Europa's C of G and performance?  ;-)
      
      Someone was proposing to raise the octane levels for cars. So my reply
      was not aimed at airplanes.
      
      But now you ask for it... These days there are light weight plastic
      propane tanks, in other shapes than cylindrical. And I bet the Rotax
      engine is very easy to adapt for propane use. Performance could actually
      increase over gas if the compression ratio (or boost pressure!) would be
      increased and the ignition timing would be advanced. Limiting factor for
      the Rotax is detonation, and propane has a much higher resistance
      against detonation.
      
      The main problem would be refueling. Or you could set it up, just like
      with cars, so it can accept both fuel types.
      
      Frans
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Engine Hoods | 
      
      Tony=0Astart from the thought that there is at least 6lb/sq inch pressure i
      nside it, =0Athat adds up to quite a load.=0AYou can use hinge (same as a G
      lasair or RV) down the sides, just pull the hinge =0Apin out to =0A=0Arelea
      se. Then camlocks or southco across the firewall=0AGraham=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A___
      _____________________________=0AFrom: Tony Renshaw <tonyrenshaw268@gmail.co
      m>=0ATo: europa-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Tuesday, 19 April, 2011 10:13:38
      =0ASubject: Europa-List: Engine Hoods=0A=0A--> Europa-List message posted b
      y: Tony Renshaw <tonyrenshaw268@gmail.com>=0A=0AGidday,=0AI am wondering if
       there is any consensus to a way to open up the lid of the =0Acowl, exposin
      g the engine easily for our birds? To be honest, I am sure a car =0Astyle b
      onnet would be the most ideal, and I am wondering if anyone has attempted 
      =======
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Engine Hoods | 
      
      
      Thks Graham,
      I reckon that sounds like a good idea. I have found a removeable pin MS20001-5
      hinge supplier, using a composite hinge and removable pin. I just think that the
      curvature of the cowl may prohibit "easy" removal, therefore defeating the
      purpose. I can't figure something like camlocks to undo the cowls, followed by
      a similar mech to the bonnet to open conventionally. 
      Reg
      TonyR. 
      On 19/04/2011, at 8:03 PM, GRAHAM SINGLETON wrote:
      
      > Tony
      > start from the thought that there is at least 6lb/sq inch pressure inside it,
      
      > that adds up to quite a load.
      > You can use hinge (same as a Glasair or RV) down the sides, just pull the hinge
      
      > pin out to 
      > 
      > release. Then camlocks or southco across the firewall
      > Graham
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > ________________________________
      > From: Tony Renshaw <tonyrenshaw268@gmail.com>
      > To: europa-list@matronics.com
      > Sent: Tuesday, 19 April, 2011 10:13:38
      > Subject: Europa-List: Engine Hoods
      > 
      > 
      > Gidday,
      > I am wondering if there is any consensus to a way to open up the lid of the 
      > cowl, exposing the engine easily for our birds? To be honest, I am sure a car
      
      > style bonnet would be the most ideal, and I am wondering if anyone has attempted
      =======
      
      
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       I wonder if it would really be a worthwhile project. I once timed the remo
      val/replacement of the top hood=2C using a manual screwdriver=2C and no rus
      hing. It takes less than 5 minutes. Compare that to all the other tasks whe
      n you want to go flying=2C and it turns out to be pretty trivial. And you w
      ouldn't want to do this every time.
      Karl
      
      
      > Subject: Re: Europa-List: Engine Hoods
      > From: tonyrenshaw268@gmail.com
      > Date: Tue=2C 19 Apr 2011 20:48:34 +1000
      > To: europa-list@matronics.com
      > 
      >
      > 
      > Thks Graham=2C
      > I reckon that sounds like a good idea. I have found a removeable pin MS20
      001-5 hinge supplier=2C using a composite hinge and removable pin. I just t
      hink that the curvature of the cowl may prohibit "easy" removal=2C therefor
      e defeating the purpose. I can't figure something like camlocks to undo the
       cowls=2C followed by a similar mech to the bonnet to open conventionally.
      
      > Reg
      > TonyR. 
      > On 19/04/2011=2C at 8:03 PM=2C GRAHAM SINGLETON wrote:
      > 
      > > Tony
      > > start from the thought that there is at least 6lb/sq inch pressure insi
      de it=2C 
      > > that adds up to quite a load.
      > > You can use hinge (same as a Glasair or RV) down the sides=2C just pull
       the hinge 
      > > pin out to 
      > > 
      > > release. Then camlocks or southco across the firewall
      > > Graham
      > > 
      > > 
      > > 
      > > 
      > > ________________________________
      > > From: Tony Renshaw <tonyrenshaw268@gmail.com>
      > > To: europa-list@matronics.com
      > > Sent: Tuesday=2C 19 April=2C 2011 10:13:38
      > > Subject: Europa-List: Engine Hoods
      > > 
      om>
      > > 
      > > Gidday=2C
      > > I am wondering if there is any consensus to a way to open up the lid of
       the 
      > > cowl=2C exposing the engine easily for our birds? To be honest=2C I am 
      sure a car 
      > > style bonnet would be the most ideal=2C and I am wondering if anyone ha
      s attempted =======
      > 
      > 
      > 
      ===========
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      > 
      > 
      > 
       		 	   		  
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Engine Hoods | 
      
      The one upside, for a 914 owner at least is that being able to open the cowl
      after flying would be great for letting the heat out.
      
      With that said, I am not about to go modify mine and my experience during
      the build process is that all the little modifications sure added to the
      build time!
      
      On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 6:14 AM, Karl Heindl <kheindl@msn.com> wrote:
      
      >   I wonder if it would really be a worthwhile project. I once timed the
      > removal/replacement of the top hood, using a manual screwdriver, and no
      > rushing. It takes less than 5 minutes. Compare that to all the other tasks
      > when you want to go flying, and it turns out to be pretty trivial. And you
      > wouldn't want to do this every time.
      >
      > Karl
      >
      
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| Subject:  | Re: The demise of AvGas | 
      
      
      Nigel,
      
      In all seriousness, an LP tank can be constructed from composite materials and,
      thus, be kept quite light.  The issue with an LP thank is more form factor than
      weight.  It must be cylindro-spherical in shape making locating it within an
      airframe more an issue.  LP is also quite energy dense, even more than diesel,
      so it could be much smaller, lower volume, than a normal AvGas tank.  Same
      with LNG, another option in the same category.
      
      Frans,
      
      You may be correct that there will be composite LP (or LNG) tanks of more random
      sizes.  I have not seen them over here yet.  Now all we need is to talk our
      FBOs into storing another fuel type and figure out how to meter it so you don't
      over fill.  But that's all technical stuff and can probably be worked out. 
      I doubt you will see switch fuel aviation engines.  Too much complication with
      multiple carbs, plumbing, multiple fuel tanks, etc.  
      
      Diesel engines, if it weren't for their weight issues, would be great as aero engines.
      Gobs of torque at low to moderate RPM lets you swing a big fat air mover
      at efficient RPM without complications like PSRUs.   
      
      AvGas, as 100LL, isn't going away real soon.  There just isn't a suitable replacement at this time and this fact has been recognized by the EPA and other organizations.  100LL WILL go away  at some point in the future, but that point has not been set and, hopefully, won't be set till there is a suitable replacement.  There are a few contenders for the title of 100LL replacement but only one appears to be making headway in the effort.  100SF (100 Swift Fuel) appears to be in the lead at the present time.  It is in the production pilot plant stage of evaluation.  More information can be obtained through the Wikipedia (search avgas) and at http://www.swiftenterprises.net/ if you are interested.
      
      Bob
      
      On Apr 19, 2011, at 3:23, Nigel Graham wrote:
      
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > On 19/04/2011 07:32, Frans Veldman wrote:
      >> .....snip......
      >> ..... go straight to Diesel or propane. Here in the Netherlands about 1/3th
      of the
      >> gas cars has been converted to run on propane (LPG)
      > 
      > .........and just how much does a propane tank weigh and what would that do for
      the Europa's C of G and performance?  ;-)
      > 
      > Nigel
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Engine Hoods | 
      
      
      It is not a difficult project to simply replace the lateral nutplates
      with Southco or CamLok quarter turn fasteners. The only minor issue
      is that the rivet holes for the nutplates do not fit the new fasteners.
      I think the best solution is to fill the old holes and back them with a
      long horizontal strip of glass, then back the glass with a long strip
      of say 40 thou 6061 an inch high to hold the new rivets.
      
      The nut plates on the fire wall can stay behind, just replacing the lateral
      cowl screws cuts the job by more than 2/3.
      
      --------
      Ira N224XS
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=337486#337486
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: The demise of AvGas | 
      
      As far as Diesel engines - the Gemini showed grate promise - a reincarnation
      of the Junkers design, advertised as being as light and the same form factor
      as the Rotax.  Pity it has appearantly died the same death as all other
      start-up engine mfg's.
      
      Cheers Pete
      A239
      
      On Tue, Apr 19, 2011 at 10:36 AM, Robert Borger <rlborger@mac.com> wrote:
      
      >
      > Nigel,
      >
      > In all seriousness, an LP tank can be constructed from composite materials
      > and, thus, be kept quite light.  The issue with an LP thank is more form
      > factor than weight.  It must be cylindro-spherical in shape making locating
      > it within an airframe more an issue.  LP is also quite energy dense, even
      > more than diesel, so it could be much smaller, lower volume, than a normal
      > AvGas tank.  Same with LNG, another option in the same category.
      >
      > Frans,
      >
      > You may be correct that there will be composite LP (or LNG) tanks of more
      > random sizes.  I have not seen them over here yet.  Now all we need is to
      > talk our FBOs into storing another fuel type and figure out how to meter it
      > so you don't over fill.  But that's all technical stuff and can probably be
      > worked out.  I doubt you will see switch fuel aviation engines.  Too much
      > complication with multiple carbs, plumbing, multiple fuel tanks, etc.
      >
      > Diesel engines, if it weren't for their weight issues, would be great as
      > aero engines.  Gobs of torque at low to moderate RPM lets you swing a big
      > fat air mover at efficient RPM without complications like PSRUs.
      >
      > AvGas, as 100LL, isn't going away real soon.  There just isn't a suitable
      > replacement at this time and this fact has been recognized by the EPA and
      > other organizations.  100LL WILL go away  at some point in the future, but
      > that point has not been set and, hopefully, won't be set till there is a
      > suitable replacement.  There are a few contenders for the title of 100LL
      > replacement but only one appears to be making headway in the effort.  100SF
      > (100 Swift Fuel) appears to be in the lead at the present time.  It is in
      > the production pilot plant stage of evaluation.  More information can be
      > obtained through the Wikipedia (search avgas) and at
      > http://www.swiftenterprises.net/ if you are interested.
      >
      > Bob
      >
      > On Apr 19, 2011, at 3:23, Nigel Graham wrote:
      >
      > nigel_graham@m-tecque.co.uk>
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > On 19/04/2011 07:32, Frans Veldman wrote:
      > >> .....snip......
      > >> ..... go straight to Diesel or propane. Here in the Netherlands about
      > 1/3th of the
      > >> gas cars has been converted to run on propane (LPG)
      > >
      > > .........and just how much does a propane tank weigh and what would that
      > do for the Europa's C of G and performance?  ;-)
      > >
      > > Nigel
      >
      >
      
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| Subject:  | Re: The demise of AvGas | 
      
      
      Hey Scout,
      
      Please chill a little!
      
      I am not a fan of the current US administration at all. The Dems have 
      done nothing but seriously hurt my industry and livelihood.
      
      That said, politics is not very welcome here, particularly poisonous
      commentary.  
      
      Furthermore, you're a little late to the party.  The EPA, FAA, AOPA,
      and EAA have all said that killing AvGas is not on the table at all until
      an agreeable substitute is found for the full fleet.  This is not an easy
      task for the chemical engineers and will take years, then years of testing
      until everyone is happy.  If Swift actually pans out, maybe it will only
      be a decade.
      
      --------
      Ira N224XS
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
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      On Apr 19, 2011, at 2:13 AM, Tony Renshaw wrote:
      
      > >
      >
      > Gidday,
      > I am wondering if there is any consensus to a way to open up the lid  
      > of the cowl, exposing the engine easily for our birds? To be honest,  
      > I am sure a car style bonnet would be the most ideal, and I am  
      > wondering if anyone has attempted it??
      
      Alex Bowman's XS mono has a proper "bonnet"...I believe it is secured  
      w/ 3 southco fasteners on each side...2 fwd & 1 at aft corner.
      
      What I like about it is that in addition to being able to have a good  
      look at everything, you don't have to worry about placing the top cowl  
      on the tarmac or seeing it blown away in the wind when removed. Note  
      the 2 streamlined surface pivots. I'm thinking about doing something  
      similar but w/ concealed hinges...just thinking.
      
      Fred
      
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      ...for someone who has too much time on his hands...
      
      	http://www.wimp.com/theclock/
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Europa Classic fuel filler pipe | 
      
      
      I have a spare aluminum elbow you can have.
      Karl
      
      
      From: rambug@gmail.com
      Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Europa Classic fuel filler pipe
      
      Same here=2C also interested in an aluminium fuel filler pipe for my Classi
      c.
      
      On Mon=2C Apr 18=2C 2011 at 16:26=2C graeme bird <graeme@gdbmk.co.uk> wrote
      :
      
      
      
      
      I am still interesting in fitting one of these if there has been any progre
      ss or you have the updated drawing.
      
      Regards
      
      
      --------
      
      Graeme Bird
      
      G-UMPY
      
      Mono Classic/XS FWFD 912ULS/Warp drive FP
      
      Build nearing completion
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=337405#337405
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: fuel pressure problem, urgent | 
      
      
      Hi Juergen,
      
      Did you solve the problem? If so please let us know.
      
      I had a similar problem several years ago & could not find the cause until I fitted
      a clear plastic pipe to the end of one of the carb connector pipes and saw
      that about 30 percent of what was getting to the carbs was air instead of petrol.
      
      For some reason if the rubber pipes are shot air gets into the system quicker than
      fuel gets out!!
      
      Where is the plane now?
      
      Barry Tennant
      
      --------
      Barry Tennant
      D-EHBT
      At EDLM  -  Germany
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=337522#337522
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: fuel pressure problem, urgent | 
      
      
      Hi Berry,
      
      the problem is not solved yet.
      The mechanics could not find the restrictor they think it has been flooded into
      the tank!?
      So I ordered a new one but I am leery.
      
      Juergen
      
      
      Read this topic online here:
      
      http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=337524#337524
      
      
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| Subject:  | 914 TACH/EMSD-10 | 
      
      Cheers,
      	Today's challenge is finding the wires which produce the RPM,
      hopefully. With 52 years into Amateur Radio licence, I'm having trouble
      sensing the meaning if the "electric' tach on the 914 to hook up with my
      Dynon EMSD10 screen. The circuit diagram seems meagre to me. 
      	The diagram on 914 Installation manual, p75 shows wires 26 and 13
      magically feeding a tachometer of sorts - #26 is attached to its negative
      terminal and #13 attached to some other one undetermined. A third terminal
      on the tach gets 12Vdc.    I have arranged 26&13 to connect but can't
      comprehend the EMS connections to them. I suspect one goes to ground and one
      to the #32 EMS wire.
      	Am I correct?	 Your thoughts gratefully received.
      Ferg	
      
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      That is actually pretty neat. Quite a lot of time in that one for sure!
      
      -----Original Message-----
      From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
      [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Fred Klein
      Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 10:26 AM
      Subject: Europa-List: timing issues
      
      
      ...for someone who has too much time on his hands...
      
      	http://www.wimp.com/theclock/
      
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| Subject:  | Re: fuel pressure problem, urgent | 
      
      Juergen=0Aseems that was your problem. Block the return pipe completely and
       test run the =0Aengine. It should run normally.=0AThat will confirm the di
      agnosis=0AGraham=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: 
      europapa <jubu@onlinehome.de>=0ATo: europa-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Tuesd
      ay, 19 April, 2011 20:32:22=0ASubject: Europa-List: Re: fuel pressure probl
      ome.de>=0A=0AHi Berry,=0A=0Athe problem is not solved yet.=0AThe mechanics 
      could not find the restrictor they think it has been flooded into =0Athe ta
      nk!?=0ASo I ordered a new one but I am leery.=0A=0AJuergen=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARe
      ad this topic online here:=0A=0Ahttp://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p
      =========================0A
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| Subject:  | Re: Engine Hoods | 
      
      Karl,
      Well put, but with my electric screw gun (non-environmentally correct as 
      it is not solar) it only takes two minutes.
      To others:
      If I drop a screw or it gets muggered up, I go to the bag and get 
      another.  Can't do that with cam locks, as the plane requires different 
      sizes, but they serve their purpose.  I have done it both ways, and I 
      like it simple with screws.
      If you want truly custom, which is sometimes what we get to do here, get 
      complex and wonderful.
      Making a car hood to hold shape and the whole cowl only weighing 10 
      pounds is quite a task.  (OK, my painter puts on a lot of paint so it's 
      15.)  A proper car type hood and cowl stiff enough to do the job is 
      going to be a bit on the cheeky side, but frankly the exercise will 
      consume a lot of time.  But if you have plenty of time, go ahead, just 
      make sure it meets the structural requirements..  As for hinges, if you 
      move the intakes and get the sides right you can rework the cowl and 
      make it happen, but again, the builder will be adding much time for 
      little convenience.  Hinges make a nice clean side to the cowl.  But 
      after a few years, the tinnermans start to wear into the paint, and the 
      rivets in the hinges start to wiggle a bit so it is six of one and half 
      dozen of the other.
      
      As far as access, or even heat dissipation, make the two access holes 
      for the cooling and oil,  larger and  set the geometry so when opened 
      they let the heat out after landing so you can check under the hood 
      easily after a sip of gas and a slug of water while checking the 
      weather, NOTAMS and filing.  Then it is a warm preflight and takeoff 
      verses a hot one...
      
      Just trying to keep it simple.
      Remember light airplanes bounce, heavy ones crash.
      Bud
        ----- Original Message ----- 
        From: Karl Heindl<mailto:kheindl@msn.com> 
        To: europa-list@matronics.com<mailto:europa-list@matronics.com> 
        Sent: Tuesday, April 19, 2011 7:14 AM
        Subject: RE: Europa-List: Engine Hoods
      
      
         I wonder if it would really be a worthwhile project. I once timed the 
      removal/replacement of the top hood, using a manual screwdriver, and no 
      rushing. It takes less than 5 minutes. Compare that to all the other 
      tasks when you want to go flying, and it turns out to be pretty trivial. 
      And you wouldn't want to do this every time. 
      
      
        Karl
      
      
        > Subject: Re: Europa-List: Engine Hoods
        > From: tonyrenshaw268@gmail.com
        > Date: Tue, 19 Apr 2011 20:48:34 +1000
        > To: europa-list@matronics.com
        > 
      <tonyrenshaw268@gmail.com>
        > 
        > Thks Graham,
        > I reckon that sounds like a good idea. I have found a removeable pin 
      MS20001-5 hinge supplier, using a composite hinge and removable pin. I 
      just think that the curvature of the cowl may prohibit "easy" removal, 
      therefore defeating the purpose. I can't figure something like camlocks 
      to undo the cowls, followed by a similar mech to the bonnet to open 
      conventionally. 
        > Reg
        > TonyR. 
        > On 19/04/2011, at 8:03 PM, GRAHAM SINGLETON wrote:
        > 
        > > Tony
        > > start from the thought that there is at least 6lb/sq inch pressure 
      inside it, 
        > > that adds up to quite a load.
        > > You can use hinge (same as a Glasair or RV) down the sides, just 
      pull the hinge 
        > > pin out to 
        > > 
        > > release. Then camlocks or southco across the firewall
        > > Graham
        > > 
        > > 
        > > 
        > > 
        > > ________________________________
        > > From: Tony Renshaw <tonyrenshaw268@gmail.com>
        > > To: europa-list@matronics.com
        > > Sent: Tuesday, 19 April, 2011 10:13:38
        > > Subject: Europa-List: Engine Hoods
        > > 
      <tonyrenshaw268@gmail.com>
        > > 
        > > Gidday,
        > > I am wondering if there is any consensus to a way to open up the 
      lid of the 
        > > cowl, exposing the engine easily for our birds? To be honest, I am 
      sure a car 
        > > style bonnet would be the most ideal, and I am wondering if anyone 
      has attempted =======
      
      ========================>
      
        > 
        > 
      
      
      http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Europa-List<http://www.matronics.com/N
      avigator?Europa-List>
      http://www.matronics.com/contribution<http://www.matronics.com/contributi
      on>
      
      
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| Subject:  | Re: Engine Hoods | 
      
      
      On Apr 19, 2011, at 3:13 PM, Bud Yerly wrote:
      
      > Making a car hood to hold shape and the whole cowl only weighing 10  
      > pounds is quite a task.  (OK, my painter puts on a lot of paint so  
      > it's 15.)
      
      Bud...are you saying the stock Europa cowl, upper plus lower, weighs  
      10 to 15 pounds?
      
      Hmmmmm...my upper weighs 5.7#, lower weighs about 13# including inlet  
      and exit ducts for the twin rads...all filled and sanded, but no  
      paint...
      
      Fred
      
      
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| Subject:  | New "constant speed" blade profile offered by Warp Drive | 
      for higher  speed aircraft
      
      
      Just a heads up that Warp Drive is offering what they call a "constant spee
      d" blade profile that they claim offers higher
      speed capability than their standard profile.  $60 extra per blade.  http:/
      /www.warpdriveprops.com
      
      I talked to Ron a month or so ago asking him about the scimitar shaped blad
      es they showed at Oshkosh this year and he
      said they would be offered in about 12 months.
      
                                                                             Glen
      n 		 	   		  
      
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| Subject:  | Re: New "constant speed" blade profile offered by Warp Drive | 
      for higher  speed aircraft
      
      
      On Apr 19, 2011, at 8:12 PM, glenn crowder wrote:
      
      > Just a heads up that Warp Drive is offering what they call a  
      > "constant speed" blade profile that they claim offers higher speed  
      > capability than their standard profile.  $60 extra per blade.  http://www.warpdriveprops.com
      
      Hey Glennster,
      
      Is that your ship in the Warpdrive catalogue?...Looks like you got  
      around to painting your cowl...please send me some pixs...!
      
      Fred
      
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| Subject:  | Re: 914 TACH/EMSD-10 | 
      
      Hi
      
      I have aquestion from the same drawer: on the backside of the electric 
      REV-counter there are tree pins marked #1, #2 and #3  -  the 914 
      delivers output to the rev-counter in wire 26 and 13, but I can't find 
      any documentation saying wich wire on wich pin ....
      
      Gert
      OY-GDS  -  Mono and 914
      
      
      Den 19/04/2011 kl. 22.17 skrev Fergus Kyle:
      
      > Cheers,
      > 
      >         Today=92s challenge is finding the wires which produce the 
      RPM, hopefully. With 52 years into Amateur Radio licence, I=92m having 
      trouble sensing the meaning if the =93electric=92 tach on the 914 to 
      hook up with my Dynon EMSD10 screen. The circuit diagram seems meagre to 
      me.
      > 
      >         The diagram on 914 Installation manual, p75 shows wires 26 and 
      13 magically feeding a tachometer of sorts - #26 is attached to its 
      negative terminal and #13 attached to some other one undetermined. A 
      third terminal on the tach gets 12Vdc.    I have arranged 26&13 to 
      connect but can=92t comprehend the EMS connections to them. I suspect 
      one goes to ground and one to the #32 EMS wire.
      > 
      >         Am I correct?    Your thoughts gratefully received.
      > 
      > Ferg   
      > 
      > 
      > 
      > 
      
      
 
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