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Mon 07/26/10


Total Messages Posted: 6



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     1. 02:13 AM - Engine choice (Mike Pienaar)
     2. 06:38 AM - Re: Engine choice (Mark Kettering)
     3. 06:38 AM - Re: Engine choice (John Petrie)
     4. 08:11 AM - Re: Engine choice (Richard Trickel)
     5. 07:18 PM - Re: Engine choice (Mike Pienaar)
     6. 07:51 PM - Re: Engine choice (Scott Stearns)
 
 
 


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    Time: 02:13:50 AM PST US
    From: "Mike Pienaar" <mjpienaar@shaw.ca>
    Subject: Engine choice
    Hi all, Would appreciate your comments and advise. I'm building a TR4 and want to confirm my engine choice will work. I bought a factory remanufactured LOM M332CE 170 HP aircraft engine with a LOM V541 constant speed propeller. This is a supercharged motor with the ability to engage and disengage the supercharger. The engine weight is +/- 250 lbs and fuel consumption is 7.6 GPH. The 170 HP is developed at 3000 rpm When I bought the motor I spoke to a Mr E David at Moravia who were then the distributors and he confirmed that he had discussions with KIS and the motor would be suitable. The only specs I can find on the web is at: http://members.fortunecity.com/xenviro/Sites/CarterEngines/LOMPraha4.htm but my engine is not included here. At the time I bought the motor I was living at an altitude of 5000 feet and thought the supercharger and low weight combined with the constant speed prop would not put me at any disadvantage compared to a normally aspirated 0-360 Lycoming with fixed prop. I am about to have the engine mount made and want to make sure I'm OK with this installation or should I switch over to a Lycoming? Thanks for your help Mike


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    Time: 06:38:49 AM PST US
    From: Mark Kettering <mantafs@earthlink.net>
    Subject: Re: Engine choice
    Hi Mike, I can not tell from the web page but I do not think the engine power is altitude normalized. In other words it looses power with altitude just like a non super charged engine. But the constant speed prop should help so I would guess it will have about the same takeoff and climb thrust as a 180 hp Lycoming at any altitude. Of course lighter is better. But I assume you are keeping the same gross weight. There has been at least one TR4 with a 160 hp O-320 Lycoming and fixed pitch prop, so your 170 hp LOM (if it really has 170 hp) should work fine. Mark -----Original Message----- From: Mike Pienaar Sent: Jul 26, 2010 5:12 AM Subject: KIS-List: Engine choice Hi all, Would appreciate your comments and advise. I'm building a TR4 and want to confirm my engine choice will work. I bought a factory remanufactured LOM M332CE 170 HP aircraft engine with a LOM V541 constant speed propeller. This is a supercharged motor with the ability to engage and disengage the supercharger. The engine weight is +/- 250 lbs and fuel consumption is 7.6 GPH. The 170 HP is developed at 3000 rpm When I bought the motor I spoke to a Mr E David at Moravia who were then the distributors and he confirmed that he had discussions with KIS and the motor would be suitable. The only specs I can find on the web is at: http://members.fortunecity.com/xenviro/Sites/CarterEngines/LOMPraha4.htm but my engine is not included here. At the time I bought the motor I was living at an altitude of 5000 feet and thought the supercharger and low weight combined with the constant speed prop would not put me at any disadvantage compared to a normally aspirated 0-360 Lycoming with fixed prop. I am about to have the engine mount made and want to make sure I'm OK with this installation or should I switch over to a Lycoming? Thanks for your help Mike


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    Time: 06:38:49 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Engine choice
    From: John Petrie <jpetrie@sonicfactory.co.za>
    Hi Mike, I=B9m sure you know my feelings! Change to the Lycoming. I have had 550 hours of trouble free, peace of mind flying since I did. John ZU-BKK From: Mike Pienaar <mjpienaar@shaw.ca> Subject: KIS-List: Engine choice Hi all, Would appreciate your comments and advise. I'm building a TR4 and want to confirm my engine choice will work. I bought a factory remanufactured LOM M332CE 170 HP aircraft engine with a LOM V541 constant speed propeller. This is a supercharged motor with the ability to engage and disengage the supercharger. The engine weight is +/- 250 lbs and fuel consumption is 7.6 GPH. The 170 HP is developed at 3000 rp m When I bought the motor I spoke to a Mr E David at Moravia who were then th e distributors and he confirmed that he had discussions with KIS and the moto r would be suitable. The only specs I can find on the web is at: http://members.fortunecity.com/xenviro/Sites/CarterEngines/LOMPraha4.htm but my engine is not included here. At the time I bought the motor I was living at an altitude of 5000 feet an d thought the supercharger and low weight combined with the constant speed prop would not put me at any disadvantage compared to a normally aspirated 0-360 Lycoming with fixed prop. I am about to have the engine mount made and want to make sure I'm OK with this installation or should I switch over to a Lycoming? Thanks for your help Mike


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    Time: 08:11:20 AM PST US
    From: Richard Trickel <richard_trickel@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Engine choice
    Mike Correct me if I am wrong but I think your engine is a six cylinder inline. - I looked at this engine and felt that there numbers were a little off i n both weight and horsepower.- Would it work? Probably.- and it is an a ircraft engine so it is in the right direction.- Would I put it in is ano ther question.- since you already have it I would get a real all up weigh t of the engine/prop and find out where the engine CG is.-Don=B4t forget the speciel baffling it needs.-From that point run the number on a weight and balance.- I would bet the cg is well forward as compared to the Lyc. - This doesn`t mean it wont work.- What do you have to do to make it wo rk.- The super charger will give you more horsepower for takeoff and aI think it s manual so you can turn it on and off. Things to think about. Rich --- On Mon, 7/26/10, Mike Pienaar <mjpienaar@shaw.ca> wrote: From: Mike Pienaar <mjpienaar@shaw.ca> Subject: KIS-List: Engine choice Hi all, - Would appreciate your comments and advise. I'm building a TR4 and want to c onfirm my engine choice will work. - I bought a factory remanufactured LOM M332CE 170 HP aircraft engine with a LOM V541 constant speed propeller. This is a supercharged motor with the ab ility to engage and disengage the supercharger. The engine weight is +/- 25 0 lbs and fuel consumption is 7.6 GPH. The 170-HP is developed at 3000 rp m When I bought the motor I spoke to a Mr E David at Moravia who were then th e distributors and he confirmed that he had discussions with KIS and the mo tor would be suitable. - The only specs-I can find on the web is at: http://members.fortunecity.com/xenviro/Sites/CarterEngines/LOMPraha4.htm -but my engine is not included here. - At the time I bought the motor I was living at an altitude of 5000 feet- and thought the supercharger and--low weight combined with the constant speed prop would not put me at any disadvantage compared to a-normally a spirated 0-360 Lycoming with fixed-prop. - I am about to have the engine mount made and want to make sure I'm OK with this installation or should I switch over to a Lycoming? - Thanks for your help - Mike - - =0A=0A=0A


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    Time: 07:18:39 PM PST US
    From: "Mike Pienaar" <mjpienaar@shaw.ca>
    Subject: Re: Engine choice
    Hi Rich and others, Thanks for the input. Rich, this is the 4 cylinder version so I did not think that weight would be an issue Thanks for all the help Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Trickel To: kis-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 8:10 AM Subject: Re: KIS-List: Engine choice Mike Correct me if I am wrong but I think your engine is a six cylinder inline. I looked at this engine and felt that there numbers were a little off in both weight and horsepower. Would it work? Probably. and it is an aircraft engine so it is in the right direction. Would I put it in is another question. since you already have it I would get a real all up weight of the engine/prop and find out where the engine CG is. Don=B4t forget the speciel baffling it needs. From that point run the number on a weight and balance. I would bet the cg is well forward as compared to the Lyc. This doesn`t mean it wont work. What do you have to do to make it work. The super charger will give you more horsepower for takeoff and aI think its manual so you can turn it on and off. Things to think about. Rich --- On Mon, 7/26/10, Mike Pienaar <mjpienaar@shaw.ca> wrote: From: Mike Pienaar <mjpienaar@shaw.ca> Subject: KIS-List: Engine choice To: "KISBUILDERS" <kis-list@matronics.com> Date: Monday, July 26, 2010, 9:12 AM Hi all, Would appreciate your comments and advise. I'm building a TR4 and want to confirm my engine choice will work. I bought a factory remanufactured LOM M332CE 170 HP aircraft engine with a LOM V541 constant speed propeller. This is a supercharged motor with the ability to engage and disengage the supercharger. The engine weight is +/- 250 lbs and fuel consumption is 7.6 GPH. The 170 HP is developed at 3000 rpm When I bought the motor I spoke to a Mr E David at Moravia who were then the distributors and he confirmed that he had discussions with KIS and the motor would be suitable. The only specs I can find on the web is at: http://members.fortunecity.com/xenviro/Sites/CarterEngines/LOMPraha4.htm but my engine is not included here. At the time I bought the motor I was living at an altitude of 5000 feet and thought the supercharger and low weight combined with the constant speed prop would not put me at any disadvantage compared to a normally aspirated 0-360 Lycoming with fixed prop. I am about to have the engine mount made and want to make sure I'm OK with this installation or should I switch over to a Lycoming? Thanks for your help Mike =nofollow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?KIS-List et=_blank>http://forums.matronics.com llow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution


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    Time: 07:51:07 PM PST US
    From: Scott Stearns <sstearns2@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Engine choice
    Hi Mike, - Is the prop intended for use at 3000 rpm?- The M/T has a limit of 2800 rp m I think.- I couldn't find anything on your prop.- - I found this list if you haven't seen it yet... - http://www.matronics.com/archive/archive-get.cgi?Lom-Archive.digest.vol-aa - Scott - --- On Mon, 7/26/10, Mike Pienaar <mjpienaar@shaw.ca> wrote: From: Mike Pienaar <mjpienaar@shaw.ca> Subject: Re: KIS-List: Engine choice Hi Rich and others, - Thanks for the input. - Rich, this is the 4 cylinder version so I did not think that weight would b e an issue - Thanks for all the help - Mike ----- Original Message ----- From: Richard Trickel Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 8:10 AM Subject: Re: KIS-List: Engine choice Mike Correct me if I am wrong but I think your engine is a six cylinder inline. - I looked at this engine and felt that there numbers were a little off i n both weight and horsepower.- Would it work? Probably.- and it is an a ircraft engine so it is in the right direction.- Would I put it in is ano ther question.- since you already have it I would get a real all up weigh t of the engine/prop and find out where the engine CG is.-Don=B4t forget the speciel baffling it needs.-From that point run the number on a weight and balance.- I would bet the cg is well forward as compared to the Lyc. - This doesn`t mean it wont work.- What do you have to do to make it wo rk.- The super charger will give you more horsepower for takeoff and aI think it s manual so you can turn it on and off. Things to think about. Rich --- On Mon, 7/26/10, Mike Pienaar <mjpienaar@shaw.ca> wrote: From: Mike Pienaar <mjpienaar@shaw.ca> Subject: KIS-List: Engine choice Hi all, - Would appreciate your comments and advise. I'm building a TR4 and want to c onfirm my engine choice will work. - I bought a factory remanufactured LOM M332CE 170 HP aircraft engine with a LOM V541 constant speed propeller. This is a supercharged motor with the ab ility to engage and disengage the supercharger. The engine weight is +/- 25 0 lbs and fuel consumption is 7.6 GPH. The 170-HP is developed at 3000 rp m When I bought the motor I spoke to a Mr E David at Moravia who were then th e distributors and he confirmed that he had discussions with KIS and the mo tor would be suitable. - The only specs-I can find on the web is at: http://members.fortunecity.com/xenviro/Sites/CarterEngines/LOMPraha4.htm -but my engine is not included here. - At the time I bought the motor I was living at an altitude of 5000 feet- and thought the supercharger and--low weight combined with the constant speed prop would not put me at any disadvantage compared to a-normally a spirated 0-360 Lycoming with fixed-prop. - I am about to have the engine mount made and want to make sure I'm OK with this installation or should I switch over to a Lycoming? - Thanks for your help - Mike - - =nofollow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?KIS-List et=_blank>http://forums.matronics.com llow target=_blank>http://www.matronics.com/contribution href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?KIS-List">http://www.matronics.c om/Navigator?KIS-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c =0A=0A=0A




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