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1. 04:04 AM - Re: Kitfox movies (Dave G.)
2. 06:26 AM - Re: Kitfox movies (Rick)
3. 08:46 AM - Stall/Spin (was: Kitfox movies) (Michael Gibbs)
4. 08:47 AM - Re: 914 (Michael Gibbs)
5. 08:55 AM - Re: Stick Boots (Bradley M Webb)
6. 09:08 AM - Re: Stick Boots (Rick)
7. 11:37 AM - Re: Stick Boots (kurt schrader)
8. 12:10 PM - Re: The trouble with gascolators (kurt schrader)
9. 12:14 PM - Re: Stick Boots (kurt schrader)
10. 01:11 PM - Re: Stick Boots (Rick)
11. 03:29 PM - Spins (Alan & Linda Daniels)
12. 04:10 PM - Re: Kitfox 6 airfoil (kurt schrader)
13. 04:35 PM - Re: Stick Boots (kurt schrader)
14. 05:13 PM - Re: Stick Boots (chris t gandy)
15. 05:37 PM - Re: Kitfox 6 airfoil (Ronald K. Stevens)
16. 05:55 PM - Kodiak (Greaves)
17. 07:33 PM - Re: Stick Boots (Rick)
18. 07:52 PM - Re: Kitfox-List Digest: 30 Msgs - 11/07/05 (John and Michele Butcher)
19. 11:37 PM - Re: Kodiak (Richard Hutson)
20. 11:41 PM - Re: Kodiak (Richard Hutson)
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox movies |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Dave G." <occom@ns.sympatico.ca>
I take it these movies come from a promo dvd. Is there any way I could pay
someone for a copy of this product?
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rick" <wingsdown@comcast.net>
The fox has great response to control inputs. If you are" not careful" is a
pretty broad statement. We should always be careful. You have precious
little time to recover from any dangerous inadvertent unusual flight
attitude. The fox will respond and recover with the best of them. The
problem you face is having an aircraft with relatively low rated G loads.
These can be quickly exceeded in spin recovery or say coming out of a poorly
executed loop. In regular careful flying your biggest threat will be
avoiding other aircraft at uncontrolled airports and yes at controlled ones
as well. I would spend the extra money and get some unsual flight attitude
training. It will put you at ease and help you better understand what to
expect from you plane. I am not suggesting doing it in the fox.
Rick
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Michel
Verheughe
Subject: SV: Kitfox-List: Kitfox movies
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
> From: Alan & Linda Daniels [aldaniels@fmtc.com]
> I know that we have also discussed
> the aggressive spin entry of the Fox several years ago also.
Could you explain this a bit deeper, please? I will NEVER do aerobatics in
my Kitfox, I just want to know what to expect if I am not careful.
Cheers,
Michel
do not archive
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| Subject: | Stall/Spin (was: Kitfox movies) |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michael Gibbs <MichaelGibbs@cox.net>
Alan sez:
>I am not an aerobatic pilot so I do not do them without someone who
>is. I know that we have also discussed the aggressive spin entry of
>the Fox several years ago also. It is a very capable plane, but it
>is not an aerobatic plane.
That sort of depends upon your definition of aerobatic. Just before
my flight test time was completed I had a local professional air show
pilot take my Model IV up on two different flights and he did rolls,
point rolls, loops, lazy-8's, Immelmann's and so forth. He had
nothing but praise for the machine. He also spun it several times in
each direction which gave me the confidence to do so also (I am not
qualified to do the other maneuvers but I thought that some day I
might be).
I found the stall/spin characters to be quite benign. It would only
drop a wing from the stall if I aggravated it with a fair amount of
rudder. It would only stay in a spin as long as I held the rudder
full down in the direction of turn. Even then I could only get about
3/4 turn to the right and about 1/2 turn to the left before it would
accelerate into a spiral dive.
Perhaps part of the notion that the spin entry is "aggressive" comes
from the very high nose up pitch attitude required to stall the plane
with power on. Although I did stalls with power on, all of my spin
entries were initiated at idle power.
Of course, your mileage will vary. Since each 'fox is custom-built
some may perform quite differently than mine did.
Mike G.
N728KF
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michael Gibbs <MichaelGibbs@cox.net>
Ted sez:
>Murle turboed the engine himself and it was not a standard factory
>built 914 turbo.
I checked with Murle this morning, Ted, and he told me it was a
factory stock 914 that he used. It doesn't surprise me that Murle
had a custom installation of the controls and such--I know he had the
engine controls down on his center console, for example. He and Phil
Laker also re-iterated their performance complaints as I mentioned in
my previous message.
I'm going to shut up now because I'm just passing along what I've
heard and I have no real knowledge or experience with the 914. :-)
Mike G.
N728KF
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bradley M Webb" <bmwebb@cox.net>
This idea just struck me...
Would it be feasible to use the shifter boot off of a Camaro or Corvette?
Should be easy to locate in a salvage yard, or cheap through J.C.Whitney. It
seems those have a large for-aft movement.
Just tossing ideas out of the boat to lighten the weight!
Beemer
Mid-GA
KF2 N1836
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Randy
Daughenbaugh
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Stick Boots
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Randy Daughenbaugh"
<rjdaugh@rapidnet.com>
Cliff, Gary,
I did go flying today, but didn't look at the boots. I will go up to the
hangar tomorrow and see if I can get the dimensions. I don't know if I
can describe them or will have to draw something to make it clear.
Randy
Do not archive.
.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Olson
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Stick Boots
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Gary Olson <ofd725@yahoo.com>
Hey, any chance you could send them my way as well?
Thanks in advance,
Gary
Clifford Begnaud <shoeless@barefootpilot.com> wrote:
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clifford Begnaud"
Randy,
This is what I'm looking for.
Thanks,
Cliff do not archive
>
>
> Cliff,
> My wife made me some boots out of the same material she made the cushions
> from. Each is made of four triangles of material sown into a pyramid and
> attached to the floor board with Velcro. I don't think the triangles are
> all the same size. If this is of interest to you, I can get dimensions
> from
> this.
>
> It is not a cone but sits on a rectangular base.
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rick" <wingsdown@comcast.net>
If someone were to purchase my blue leather unterior package for the model 5
they would get a set of leather stick boots free. :) Email for pics.
BTW just listed the engine on Ebay 75 hour custom build NSI turbo EA-81
package with upgrade redrive.
Rick
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Bradley M
Webb
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Stick Boots
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bradley M Webb" <bmwebb@cox.net>
This idea just struck me...
Would it be feasible to use the shifter boot off of a Camaro or Corvette?
Should be easy to locate in a salvage yard, or cheap through J.C.Whitney. It
seems those have a large for-aft movement.
Just tossing ideas out of the boat to lighten the weight!
Beemer
Mid-GA
KF2 N1836
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Randy
Daughenbaugh
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Stick Boots
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Randy Daughenbaugh"
<rjdaugh@rapidnet.com>
Cliff, Gary,
I did go flying today, but didn't look at the boots. I will go up to the
hangar tomorrow and see if I can get the dimensions. I don't know if I
can describe them or will have to draw something to make it clear.
Randy
Do not archive.
.
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Olson
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Stick Boots
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Gary Olson <ofd725@yahoo.com>
Hey, any chance you could send them my way as well?
Thanks in advance,
Gary
Clifford Begnaud <shoeless@barefootpilot.com> wrote:
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clifford Begnaud"
Randy,
This is what I'm looking for.
Thanks,
Cliff do not archive
>
>
> Cliff,
> My wife made me some boots out of the same material she made the cushions
> from. Each is made of four triangles of material sown into a pyramid and
> attached to the floor board with Velcro. I don't think the triangles are
> all the same size. If this is of interest to you, I can get dimensions
> from
> this.
>
> It is not a cone but sits on a rectangular base.
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
I looked into doing just that and found 2 problems.
First, the boots were still too small at the base for
clearance and second, the material was so stiff as to
provide a force against the stick that can act like
spring trim forces. Unless it was just right, you
would always have to hold pressure against the boot
force to fly straight.
Kurt S. S-5
--- Bradley M Webb <bmwebb@cox.net> wrote:
> This idea just struck me...
>
> Would it be feasible to use the shifter boot off of
> a Camaro or Corvette?
> Should be easy to locate in a salvage yard, or cheap
> through J.C.Whitney. It
> seems those have a large for-aft movement.
>
> Just tossing ideas out of the boat to lighten the
> weight!
> Beemer
> Mid-GA
> KF2 N1836
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| Subject: | Re: The trouble with gascolators |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
Hey Gary,
I wanted to pull my gascolator out and see if any
parts were inside before answering, but couldn't get
to it in time. Your's may just be a little dirt, or
the o ring going bad, but it is a good thing to check
it out. My header tank drain did the same thing as
the o ring fell apart last year.
Now I wonder if the little bits of black rubber I
thought were from a fuel hose were actually from the
gascolator drain itself.... In any case, I think the
drain metal stem or o ring end had to fail for mine to
fall out. I'll try to open it next time I am back in
FL.
Kurt S.
--- kitfoxjunky <kitfoxjunky@decisionlabs.com> wrote:
>
> I have had a small drip coming out of my gascolator
> for the last few days.
> Found that if I cycled it in and out a few times
> the drip would stop.
> Perhaps I will take a closer look at it after
> reading this.
>
> Thanks for the heads up Kurt.
>
>
> Gary Walsh
> KF IV Anphib 912S
> C-GOOT
> www.decisionlabs.com/kitfox
>
> do not archive
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
Rick,
What did I miss while gone? I heard that Howard was
selling his and that SS went under, but why are you
selling the engine and interior?
Kurt S.
--- Rick <wingsdown@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> If someone were to purchase my blue leather unterior
> package for the model 5
> they would get a set of leather stick boots free. :)
> Email for pics.
> BTW just listed the engine on Ebay 75 hour custom
> build NSI turbo EA-81
> package with upgrade redrive.
>
> Rick
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rick" <wingsdown@comcast.net>
Long story but in a nut shell flipped on off field landing. Hit the only
stump I didn't see. Buy some parts, need the money for mental illness.
Taking apart a dream is not the most fun I have had in my life. Right up
there with divorce and death.
Rick
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of kurt
schrader
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Stick Boots
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader
<smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
Rick,
What did I miss while gone? I heard that Howard was
selling his and that SS went under, but why are you
selling the engine and interior?
Kurt S.
--- Rick <wingsdown@comcast.net> wrote:
>
> If someone were to purchase my blue leather unterior
> package for the model 5
> they would get a set of leather stick boots free. :)
> Email for pics.
> BTW just listed the engine on Ebay 75 hour custom
> build NSI turbo EA-81
> package with upgrade redrive.
>
> Rick
__________________________________
http://farechase.yahoo.com
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Alan & Linda Daniels <aldaniels@fmtc.com>
I only have experience with my 5,6,&7. If you get stupid slow and cross
controlled this plane will aggressively enter a spin. Recovery is
normal, in my plane as easy as relaxing on the controls. That is not
what your body and mind tell you to do. At altitude with a very
experienced instructor in unusual attitude recovery we explored spins
and found that it is a very well behaved plane, but it has a few
gotcha's. If you don't believe me go to altitude and do a full stall
falling leaf, then try and pick a dropping wing up with the stick. Then
for real excitement enter a power off stall, but just before it stalls
full cross control and it will snap roll into a spin. I have been told
that this is common with planes with this type of control surface. My
wife, three son's, brother, and father have all been PIC in my Vixen.
All have had spin training in it. It stabilizes in less than two turns
and will remain stable as long as you hold the controls to make it spin.
Once it stabilizes it is easy to just ride it for as many turns as you
want, and will recover before you can get the controls centered, let
alone against it. Speed will build quickly coming out of the spin so
don't take to long to start your pull out. I hesitate to say this much
as I am not an expert. What I know from all this is that it is hard to
spin one. You really have to mess up, but if you do it is not your
C-150. A snap roll to a spin just is not recoverable at base to final
altitude. Knowledge and training are what we live by. Don't skimp on
training. Find a good instructor with a good aerobatics plane and get
unusually attitude training. Then with a good instructor - not just any
instructor- find out what your plane does at the limits.
Michel Verheughe wrote:
>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
>
>
>
>>From: Alan & Linda Daniels [aldaniels@fmtc.com]
>>I know that we have also discussed
>>the aggressive spin entry of the Fox several years ago also.
>>
>>
>
>Could you explain this a bit deeper, please? I will NEVER do aerobatics in my
Kitfox, I just want to know what to expect if I am not careful.
>
>Cheers,
>Michel
>
>do not archive
>
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox 6 airfoil |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
Ron,
If it is not too late, here is the airfoil ID.
GA30U-612 modified
Kurt S S-5
--- rkstevens@verizon.net wrote:
>
> Does anybody have handy the Kitfox 6 (5 thru 7 would
> work too) NACA airfoil number/designation? I can't
> seem to find it anywhere. I need it for my son's
> school science project.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ron
> Series 6 NSI Turbo CAP 140
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
Rick,
Please send me a list of parts and prices off list, if
you would. I always admired your plane and what you
put into it.
When I built mine, I had to keep saying to myself,
"It's a tractor. It's a tool." I wanted to remind
myself of how I intended to use it and that it will
get broke from time to time. That is why I used the
dull paint so I could more easily repair it. Keeping
my roll of duct tape handy too. But I hate it when I
just slip with the screwdriver and scratch the thing.
And I haven't even put SS valves in it yet...
I had a few minutes to think about all this in flight
with my gascolator leak too.
How do I find your engine sale? On E-bay? I am not a
E-Bay user yet.
Kurt S.
--- Rick <wingsdown@comcast.net> wrote:
> Long story but in a nut shell flipped on off field
> landing. Hit the only stump I didn't see.
> Buy some parts, need the money for mental illness.
> Taking apart a dream is not the most fun I have had
> in my life. Right up there with divorce and death.
>
> Rick
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: chris t gandy <jusplanefun@juno.com>
Rick, I am building a series 5 vixen and have not picked my exterior or
interior colors yet. I am getting pretty close to covering, and may be
interested in your interior. please send me the pictures and prices. I
will look them over and get back to you. Thank You. Chris.
On Tue, 8 Nov 2005 09:07:28 -0800 "Rick" <wingsdown@comcast.net> writes:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rick" <wingsdown@comcast.net>
>
> If someone were to purchase my blue leather unterior package for the
> model 5
> they would get a set of leather stick boots free. :) Email for
> pics.
> BTW just listed the engine on Ebay 75 hour custom build NSI turbo
> EA-81
> package with upgrade redrive.
>
>
> Rick
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Bradley
> M
> Webb
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Stick Boots
>
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bradley M Webb"
> <bmwebb@cox.net>
>
> This idea just struck me...
>
> Would it be feasible to use the shifter boot off of a Camaro or
> Corvette?
> Should be easy to locate in a salvage yard, or cheap through
> J.C.Whitney. It
> seems those have a large for-aft movement.
>
> Just tossing ideas out of the boat to lighten the weight!
> Beemer
> Mid-GA
> KF2 N1836
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Randy
> Daughenbaugh
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Stick Boots
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Randy Daughenbaugh"
> <rjdaugh@rapidnet.com>
>
> Cliff, Gary,
> I did go flying today, but didn't look at the boots. I will go up
> to the
> hangar tomorrow and see if I can get the dimensions. I don't know
> if I
> can describe them or will have to draw something to make it clear.
>
> Randy
>
> Do not archive.
>
> .
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary
> Olson
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Stick Boots
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Gary Olson <ofd725@yahoo.com>
>
> Hey, any chance you could send them my way as well?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> ary
>
> Clifford Begnaud <shoeless@barefootpilot.com> wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clifford Begnaud"
>
> Randy,
> This is what I'm looking for.
> Thanks,
> Cliff do not archive
> >
> >
> > Cliff,
> > My wife made me some boots out of the same material she made the
> cushions
> > from. Each is made of four triangles of material sown into a
> pyramid and
> > attached to the floor board with Velcro. I don't think the
> triangles are
> > all the same size. If this is of interest to you, I can get
> dimensions
> > from
> > this.
> >
> > It is not a cone but sits on a rectangular base.
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
Chris Gandy jusplanefun@juno.com 1-(256)-784- 6121
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| Subject: | Kitfox 6 airfoil |
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Ronald K. Stevens" <rkstevens@verizon.net>
Thanks Kurt! And also John for your help.
Now making a wind tunnel!
Ron
Series 6 NSI Turbo CAP 140
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of kurt schrader
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Kitfox 6 airfoil
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader
<smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
Ron,
If it is not too late, here is the airfoil ID.
GA30U-612 modified
Kurt S S-5
--- rkstevens@verizon.net wrote:
>
> Does anybody have handy the Kitfox 6 (5 thru 7 would
> work too) NACA airfoil number/designation? I can't
> seem to find it anywhere. I need it for my son's
> school science project.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ron
> Series 6 NSI Turbo CAP 140
__________________________________
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Greaves" <tenorio41@comcast.net>
Does anyone know of a way to get ahold of Kodiak directly? Skystar told me my
engine money was in their hands and it appears that the engine is not included
in the amount Skystar says they owe me (in court docs).
I want to try and see if I can flag my engine so that it comes to me rather than
to Idaho.
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rick" <wingsdown@comcast.net>
Chris,
Send me your E-mail and I will get the pics off to you.
Thanks for the interest
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of chris t
gandy
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Stick Boots
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: chris t gandy <jusplanefun@juno.com>
Rick, I am building a series 5 vixen and have not picked my exterior or
interior colors yet. I am getting pretty close to covering, and may be
interested in your interior. please send me the pictures and prices. I
will look them over and get back to you. Thank You. Chris.
On Tue, 8 Nov 2005 09:07:28 -0800 "Rick" <wingsdown@comcast.net> writes:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rick" <wingsdown@comcast.net>
>
> If someone were to purchase my blue leather unterior package for the
> model 5
> they would get a set of leather stick boots free. :) Email for
> pics.
> BTW just listed the engine on Ebay 75 hour custom build NSI turbo
> EA-81
> package with upgrade redrive.
>
>
> Rick
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Bradley
> M
> Webb
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Stick Boots
>
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bradley M Webb"
> <bmwebb@cox.net>
>
> This idea just struck me...
>
> Would it be feasible to use the shifter boot off of a Camaro or
> Corvette?
> Should be easy to locate in a salvage yard, or cheap through
> J.C.Whitney. It
> seems those have a large for-aft movement.
>
> Just tossing ideas out of the boat to lighten the weight!
> Beemer
> Mid-GA
> KF2 N1836
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Randy
> Daughenbaugh
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Stick Boots
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Randy Daughenbaugh"
> <rjdaugh@rapidnet.com>
>
> Cliff, Gary,
> I did go flying today, but didn't look at the boots. I will go up
> to the
> hangar tomorrow and see if I can get the dimensions. I don't know
> if I
> can describe them or will have to draw something to make it clear.
>
> Randy
>
> Do not archive.
>
> .
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary
> Olson
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Stick Boots
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Gary Olson <ofd725@yahoo.com>
>
> Hey, any chance you could send them my way as well?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> ary
>
> Clifford Begnaud <shoeless@barefootpilot.com> wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clifford Begnaud"
>
> Randy,
> This is what I'm looking for.
> Thanks,
> Cliff do not archive
> >
> >
> > Cliff,
> > My wife made me some boots out of the same material she made the
> cushions
> > from. Each is made of four triangles of material sown into a
> pyramid and
> > attached to the floor board with Velcro. I don't think the
> triangles are
> > all the same size. If this is of interest to you, I can get
> dimensions
> > from
> > this.
> >
> > It is not a cone but sits on a rectangular base.
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
Chris Gandy jusplanefun@juno.com 1-(256)-784- 6121
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>
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> Today's Message Index:
> ----------------------
>
> 1. 12:15 AM - What's Being Said... (Matt Dralle)
> 2. 12:56 AM - Kitfox movies (Graeme Toft)
> 3. 02:34 AM - Re: CAM 100's (kurt schrader)
> 4. 03:52 AM - Re: The trouble with gascolators (kitfoxjunky)
> 5. 05:46 AM - Re: Stick Boots (Clifford Begnaud)
> 6. 06:31 AM - Re: Stick Boots (Randy Daughenbaugh)
> 7. 06:47 AM - Re: Stick Boots (Lowell Fitt)
> 8. 07:25 AM - Re: Stick Boots (Clifford Begnaud)
> 9. 07:34 AM - Re: Tricycle gear (Michael Gibbs)
> 10. 07:56 AM - Re: Stick Boots (jdmcbean)
> 11. 08:09 AM - Re: Kitfox movies (Rex Hefferan)
> 12. 08:49 AM - Re: Stick Boots (Gary Olson)
> 13. 09:18 AM - Re: New wing? (David Savener)
> 14. 10:16 AM - KF 7 baggage door instructions/pics (Harris, Robert)
> 15. 11:02 AM - Re: CAM 100's (Alan & Linda Daniels)
> 16. 11:27 AM - Re: New wing? (David Savener)
> 17. 01:16 PM - Kitfox 6 airfoil ()
> 18. 01:17 PM - Re: Stick Boots (John Anderson)
> 19. 02:14 PM - Re: Kitfox movies (Alan & Linda Daniels)
> 20. 02:31 PM - Re: Kitfox movies (Rick)
> 21. 03:11 PM - Re: Kitfox movies (Donna and Roger McConnell)
> 22. 03:42 PM - Re: Kitfox movies (John Disher)
> 23. 04:08 PM - Re: Re: 914 (Ted Palamarek)
> 24. 04:24 PM - Re: Kitfox Aerobatics (David Savener)
> 25. 04:33 PM - Re: Tricycle gear (Rex & Jan Shaw)
> 26. 07:20 PM - Re: Kitfox 6 airfoil (Jerry Liles)
> 27. 07:23 PM - Re: Kitfox movies (Rex Hefferan)
> 28. 07:50 PM - Re: Kitfox 6 airfoil (kurt schrader)
> 29. 08:04 PM - Re: Stick Boots (Randy Daughenbaugh)
> 30. 11:52 PM - SV: Kitfox movies (Michel Verheughe)
>
>
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> Subject: Kitfox-List: What's Being Said...
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> ________________________________ Message 2
> _____________________________________
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> Time: 12:56:45 AM PST US
> From: "Graeme Toft" <msm@byterocky.net>
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Kitfox movies
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Graeme Toft" <msm@byterocky.net>
>
> Has anyone ever noticed that watching flying movies makes you what to
> commit aviation.
> I have just spent quite a few hours glued to the TV viewing the DVD's
> Grant Fluent sent over. What a buzz but just realised its the middle of
> the night.
> Bugger!!!!. Hey Rex, bet you didnt know they do barrel roles.
>
> Regards
> Graeme Toft
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 3
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 02:34:33 AM PST US
> From: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: CAM 100's
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader
> <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
>
> Thanks Alan,
>
> That sounds like a sweet engine and not much more
> trouble to install than many others have had. I
> thought maybe you would have had to add a lower front
> bump to house the bottom front of the motor, but guess
> it fit pretty well. Must make a nice hummm, like you
> do when you pull up to the pumps.
>
> kurt S.
>
> Do not archive
>
> --- Alan & Linda Daniels <aldaniels@fmtc.com> wrote:
>
>> The CAM 100 has a max continuous run of 5300 RPM,
>> but that is
>> conservative. The engine itself is as close to
>> bullet proof as you can
>> get.................
>> >
>> >Hi Alan,
>> >
>> >Someone recently told me that you can run the CAM
>> >100's at 5500 rpm all day. Is that true? Did you
>> >have to make extensive cowl changes? How do you
>> like
>> >it otherwise? They were just a little too new for
>> me
>> >to consider when I bought my engine.
>> >
>> >Kurt S.
>
>
> __________________________________
> http://farechase.yahoo.com
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 4
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 03:52:33 AM PST US
> From: kitfoxjunky <kitfoxjunky@decisionlabs.com>
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: The trouble with gascolators
> Serialize complete at 11/07/2005 06:50:18 AM
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kitfoxjunky
> <kitfoxjunky@decisionlabs.com>
>
> I have had a small drip coming out of my gascolator for the last few days.
> Found that if I cycled it in and out a few times the drip would stop.
> Perhaps I will take a closer look at it after reading this.
>
> Thanks for the heads up Kurt.
>
>
> Gary Walsh
> KF IV Anphib 912S
> C-GOOT
> www.decisionlabs.com/kitfox
>
> do not archive
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 5
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 05:46:24 AM PST US
> From: "Clifford Begnaud" <shoeless@barefootpilot.com>
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Stick Boots
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clifford Begnaud"
> <shoeless@barefootpilot.com>
>
> John,
> Someone gave me some very nice black leather that I would to form into a
> pair of boots. I just need a cutting template.
> Cliff
> do not archive
>
>> Cliff,
>> Are you just looking for a boot ??
>>
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 6
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 06:31:21 AM PST US
> From: "Randy Daughenbaugh" <rjdaugh@rapidnet.com>
> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Stick Boots
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Randy Daughenbaugh"
> <rjdaugh@rapidnet.com>
>
>
> Cliff,
> My wife made me some boots out of the same material she made the cushions
> from. Each is made of four triangles of material sown into a pyramid and
> attached to the floor board with Velcro. I don't think the triangles are
> all the same size. If this is of interest to you, I can get dimensions
> from
> this.
>
> It is not a cone but sits on a rectangular base.
>
> Randy
>
> .
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Clifford
> Begnaud
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Stick Boots
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clifford Begnaud"
> <shoeless@barefootpilot.com>
>
> John,
> Someone gave me some very nice black leather that I would to form into a
> pair of boots. I just need a cutting template.
> Cliff
> do not archive
>
>> Cliff,
>> Are you just looking for a boot ??
>>
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 7
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 06:47:02 AM PST US
> From: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Stick Boots
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
>
> Cliff,
>
> Flying a model IV, the only experience I have had with boots was with a
> 1923
> Marmon Four Passenger Coupe I restored. In this situation, the boots were
> on the steering arm under the car to protect the ball joint from mud
> etc. -
> no such thing as seals in those days. I also wanted to use leather as
> that
> was what they used originally. I got a scrap piece of vinyl and cut and
> fit. I had a large sewing machine that helped, but after a lot of trial
> and
> error, it was simple to just cut the threads out of the vinyl design
> winner
> and use that as a pattern. A little effort, but I got what I wanted -
> exactly.
>
> Lowell
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Clifford Begnaud" <shoeless@barefootpilot.com>
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Stick Boots
>
>
>> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clifford Begnaud"
>> <shoeless@barefootpilot.com>
>>
>> John,
>> Someone gave me some very nice black leather that I would to form into a
>> pair of boots. I just need a cutting template.
>> Cliff
>> do not archive
>>
>>> Cliff,
>>> Are you just looking for a boot ??
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 8
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 07:25:46 AM PST US
> From: "Clifford Begnaud" <shoeless@barefootpilot.com>
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Stick Boots
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clifford Begnaud"
> <shoeless@barefootpilot.com>
>
> Randy,
> This is what I'm looking for.
> Thanks,
> Cliff do not archive
>>
>>
>> Cliff,
>> My wife made me some boots out of the same material she made the cushions
>> from. Each is made of four triangles of material sown into a pyramid and
>> attached to the floor board with Velcro. I don't think the triangles are
>> all the same size. If this is of interest to you, I can get dimensions
>> from
>> this.
>>
>> It is not a cone but sits on a rectangular base.
>>
>> Randy
>>
>> .
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 9
> _____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 07:34:10 AM PST US
> From: Michael Gibbs <MichaelGibbs@cox.net>
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Tricycle gear
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michael Gibbs <MichaelGibbs@cox.net>
>
>>Does anyone know of a supplier of nose wheel conversions for Kitfox IV
>
> Eric,
>
> Murle Williams did my nose wheel conversion, he may be able to help
> you. Give him a call at (602) 978-0553 or his e-mail address is on
> the web page: <http://www.MurleWilliamsAviation.com>.
>
> Mike G.
> N728KF
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 10
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 07:56:24 AM PST US
> From: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net>
> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Stick Boots
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@cableone.net>
>
> I'll se if I can get the template...
>
> Fly Safe !!
> John & Debra McBean
> www.sportplanellc.com
> "The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground"
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Clifford
> Begnaud
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Stick Boots
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clifford Begnaud"
> <shoeless@barefootpilot.com>
>
> John,
> Someone gave me some very nice black leather that I would to form into a
> pair of boots. I just need a cutting template.
> Cliff
> do not archive
>
>> Cliff,
>> Are you just looking for a boot ??
>>
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 11
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 08:09:11 AM PST US
> From: Rex Hefferan <kitfox-m2@earthlink.net>
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Kitfox movies
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Rex Hefferan <kitfox-m2@earthlink.net>
>
> I had only heard about Kitfox rolls being done before seeing the videos.
>
> Rex Hefferan
> Colorado
> (Also, I expect you were speaking to Rex Shaw in Australia, but thought
> I'd reply anyway)
>
>
> Graeme Toft wrote:
>
>>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Graeme Toft" <msm@byterocky.net>
>>
>>Has anyone ever noticed that watching flying movies makes you what to
>>commit aviation.
> I have just spent quite a few hours glued to the TV viewing the DVD's
> Grant Fluent sent over. What a buzz but just realised its the middle of
> the night.
> Bugger!!!!. Hey Rex, bet you didnt know they do barrel roles.
>>
>>Regards
>>Graeme Toft
>>
>>
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 12
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 08:49:05 AM PST US
> From: Gary Olson <ofd725@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Stick Boots
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Gary Olson <ofd725@yahoo.com>
>
> Hey, any chance you could send them my way as well?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Gary
>
> Clifford Begnaud <shoeless@barefootpilot.com> wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clifford Begnaud"
>
> Randy,
> This is what I'm looking for.
> Thanks,
> Cliff do not archive
>>
>>
>> Cliff,
>> My wife made me some boots out of the same material she made the cushions
>> from. Each is made of four triangles of material sown into a pyramid and
>> attached to the floor board with Velcro. I don't think the triangles are
>> all the same size. If this is of interest to you, I can get dimensions
>> from
>> this.
>>
>> It is not a cone but sits on a rectangular base.
>>
>> Randy
>>
>> .
>
>
> ---------------------------------
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 13
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 09:18:43 AM PST US
> From: "David Savener" <david_savener@msn.com>
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List:New wing?
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "David Savener" <david_savener@msn.com>
>
> I may need a new left wing for my Model II Kitfox. Does anyone supply
> them
> or their parts now?
>
> Dave Savener
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 14
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 10:16:17 AM PST US
> From: "Harris, Robert" <Robert_Harris@intuit.com>
> Subject: Kitfox-List: KF 7 baggage door instructions/pics
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Harris, Robert"
> <Robert_Harris@intuit.com>
>
> KF 7 baggage door instructions/pics--
>
> Does anybody have the Model 7 baggage door instructions and or pictures
> they
> could send me?
>
> Robert
> San Diego
> Day phone 1-858-525-8102
> Cell 760-415-1810
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 15
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 11:02:56 AM PST US
> From: Alan & Linda Daniels <aldaniels@fmtc.com>
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: CAM 100's
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Alan & Linda Daniels
> <aldaniels@fmtc.com>
>
> I did have to make a bump on the cowl for the bottom of the redrive, and
> one for the starter, which is why I would consider using a prop
> extension and a stock cowl next time. I solved the cooling problem with
> a 3 inch intake hole made from plastic pipe glassed in just below the
> normal intake, right in front of the two radiators. I tried all sorts
> of ducting, but what works best is just the basic opening in front of
> the radiator with lots of room for air to get out. I normally fly the
> planes I am working on and my wife uses the CAM powered plane. That is
> the only one she wants to fly. It really has been simple and reliable.
> She only burns about 3 gph, but she is not as high strung as I am .
> Knowing what I know now it is probably one of the simplest engines to
> install. The only down side is the weight. My plane came in at 912
> pounds, but that includes a BRS. The fuel injected CAM 125 is what I
> think is the ticket. It is close to the same weight and puts out over
> 130 hp. That's 2.4 to 1 redrive power so it should really get off and
> climb. I am trying to work a deal to get one using my redrive and try it.
>
> kurt schrader wrote:
>
>>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader
>><smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
>>
>>Thanks Alan,
>>
>>That sounds like a sweet engine and not much more
>>trouble to install than many others have had. I
>>thought maybe you would have had to add a lower front
>>bump to house the bottom front of the motor, but guess
>>it fit pretty well. Must make a nice hummm, like you
>>do when you pull up to the pumps.
>>
>>kurt S.
>>
>>Do not archive
>>
>>--- Alan & Linda Daniels <aldaniels@fmtc.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>The CAM 100 has a max continuous run of 5300 RPM,
>>>but that is
>>>conservative. The engine itself is as close to
>>>bullet proof as you can
>>>get.................
>>>
>>>
>>>>Hi Alan,
>>>>
>>>>Someone recently told me that you can run the CAM
>>>>100's at 5500 rpm all day. Is that true? Did you
>>>>have to make extensive cowl changes? How do you
>>>>
>>>>
>>>like
>>>
>>>
>>>>it otherwise? They were just a little too new for
>>>>
>>>>
>>>me
>>>
>>>
>>>>to consider when I bought my engine.
>>>>
>>>>Kurt S.
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>__________________________________
>>http://farechase.yahoo.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 16
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 11:27:22 AM PST US
> From: "David Savener" <david_savener@msn.com>
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List:New wing?
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "David Savener" <david_savener@msn.com>
>
> Correction, I may need a RIGHT wing for my Kitfox II? Anybody???
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: David Savener<mailto:david_savener@msn.com>
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com<mailto:kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 11:16 AM
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List:New wing?
>
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "David Savener"
> <david_savener@msn.com<mailto:david_savener@msn.com>>
>
> I may need a new left wing for my Model II Kitfox. Does anyone supply
> them
> or their parts now?
>
> Dave Savener
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 17
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 01:16:17 PM PST US
> From: <rkstevens@verizon.net>
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Kitfox 6 airfoil
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: <rkstevens@verizon.net>
>
> Does anybody have handy the Kitfox 6 (5 thru 7 would work too) NACA
> airfoil number/designation?
> I can't seem to find it anywhere. I need it for my son's school
> science project.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Ron
> Series 6 NSI Turbo CAP 140
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 18
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 01:17:41 PM PST US
> From: "John Anderson" <janderson412@hotmail.com>
> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Stick Boots
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Anderson"
> <janderson412@hotmail.com>
>
> Ha, my wife did the same. They have their good points eh.. She made some
> mock one's first out of cotton rag to get the pattern correct, took a bit
> as
> the stick travel goes for and aft quite a way. Once perfect, then
> fabricated
> the finished article. Put elastic around the stick at the top so the
> sloping
> f/board can be removed without removing the boot. The reinforced metal
> mounting strip is hidden inside the boot. John A.
>
>
> From: "Randy Daughenbaugh" <rjdaugh@rapidnet.com>
> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Stick Boots
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Randy Daughenbaugh"
> <rjdaugh@rapidnet.com>
>
>
> Cliff,
> My wife made me some boots out of the same material she made the cushions
> from. Each is made of four triangles of material sown into a pyramid and
> attached to the floor board with Velcro. I don't think the triangles are
> all the same size. If this is of interest to you, I can get dimensions
> from
> this.
>
> It is not a cone but sits on a rectangular base.
>
> Randy
>
> ..
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Clifford
> Begnaud
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Stick Boots
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clifford Begnaud"
> <shoeless@barefootpilot.com>
>
> John,
> Someone gave me some very nice black leather that I would to form into a
> pair of boots. I just need a cutting template.
> Cliff
> do not archive
>
>>Cliff,
>> Are you just looking for a boot ??
>>
>
>
> Shop til you drop at XtraMSN Shopping http://shopping.xtramsn.co.nz/home/
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 19
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 02:14:35 PM PST US
> From: Alan & Linda Daniels <aldaniels@fmtc.com>
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Kitfox movies
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Alan & Linda Daniels
> <aldaniels@fmtc.com>
>
> My brother can roll my Fox so smooth that if you had your eyes shut you
> would not know you went around. The problem is if you botch the maneuver
> you can dish out and put quite a load on the plane. Dutch roll left and
> right to 90 until you are comfortable, and then go on around remember to
> change rudder impute as required. I am not an aerobatic pilot so I do
> not do them without someone who is. I know that we have also discussed
> the aggressive spin entry of the Fox several years ago also. It is a
> very capable plane, but it is not an aerobatic plane.
>
> Rex Hefferan wrote:
>
>>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Rex Hefferan <kitfox-m2@earthlink.net>
>>
>>I had only heard about Kitfox rolls being done before seeing the videos.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 20
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 02:31:01 PM PST US
> From: "Rick" <wingsdown@comcast.net>
> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Kitfox movies
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rick" <wingsdown@comcast.net>
>
> I have done two in the old model 5 fox. That was with a most capable and
> experienced pilot. The plane will do just about anything you ask. The
> margin
> for error and exceeding load capabilities can happen very quickly. An
> aerobatic plane gives you a much greater OH !@%$ factor time to pull it
> out.
> Just my opinion. But by all mean have fun, life is to short.
>
> Rick
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Alan & Linda
> Daniels
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Kitfox movies
>
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Alan & Linda Daniels
> <aldaniels@fmtc.com>
>
> My brother can roll my Fox so smooth that if you had your eyes shut you
> would not know you went around. The problem is if you botch the maneuver
> you can dish out and put quite a load on the plane. Dutch roll left and
> right to 90 until you are comfortable, and then go on around remember to
> change rudder impute as required. I am not an aerobatic pilot so I do
> not do them without someone who is. I know that we have also discussed
> the aggressive spin entry of the Fox several years ago also. It is a
> very capable plane, but it is not an aerobatic plane.
>
> Rex Hefferan wrote:
>
>>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Rex Hefferan <kitfox-m2@earthlink.net>
>>
>>I had only heard about Kitfox rolls being done before seeing the videos.
>>
>>
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 21
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 03:11:24 PM PST US
> From: "Donna and Roger McConnell" <rdmac@swbell.net>
> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Kitfox movies
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Donna and Roger McConnell"
> <rdmac@swbell.net>
>
> Alan,
> When you say dish out is that more like a Split S, half role to a
> half loop? Also can you explain more when you say change rudder
> input.......just curious?
>
> Roger Mac
> N619RM
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Alan & Linda
> Daniels
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Kitfox movies
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Alan & Linda Daniels
> <aldaniels@fmtc.com>
>
> My brother can roll my Fox so smooth that if you had your eyes shut you
> would not know you went around. The problem is if you botch the maneuver
> you can dish out and put quite a load on the plane. Dutch roll left and
> right to 90 until you are comfortable, and then go on around remember to
> change rudder impute as required. I am not an aerobatic pilot so I do
> not do them without someone who is. I know that we have also discussed
> the aggressive spin entry of the Fox several years ago also. It is a
> very capable plane, but it is not an aerobatic plane.
>
> Rex Hefferan wrote:
>
>>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Rex Hefferan <kitfox-m2@earthlink.net>
>>
>>I had only heard about Kitfox rolls being done before seeing the videos.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 22
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 03:42:42 PM PST US
> From: "John Disher" <jdisher@intergate.com>
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Kitfox movies
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Disher" <jdisher@intergate.com>
>
> I have a Kitfox IV Speedster with a 912. I saw a Kitfox getting really
> wrung out at Sun and Fun back in 93 and when I finished mine about a year
> later had a real urge to do a loop and a roll. I used to go out over the
> lakes near here on Sunday mornings and play around. I had a little
> aerobatic
> familiarization when I did my Commercial a bunch of years ago and knew
> just
> enough to get myself in trouble.
>
> I started with a loop, but each time, by the time I got that little plane
> going straight up, I would chicken out and push the stick forward. Finally
> one day I stayed with it , but I hadn't built quite enpugh speed in the
> dive
> before I pulled up and probably was at about 120 and ran out of speed
> before
> I got all the way up and over and kind of fell out of the top. At that
> point
> the speed starts building like crazy and it gets real scary knowing you
> have
> to pull out of it before you get too much speed and too many G's.
>
> So at that point I decided that maybe a roll would be much less hair
> raising
> After all, what can possibly go wrong??????
>
> Well the Sunday morning roll attemps would bring out a lot of "chicken"
> when
> that monsterous roll rate almost instantaneously gets that little bird
> standing on a wingtip, and I would level it back out. Then one Sunday I
> told
> myself thast today was the day. No chickening out. I drop the nose a
> little
> to build a little speed, then pull back and roll left and as the world is
> suddenly at 90 degrees from where it ough to be I mutter Oh, s----,
> hesitate
> for a secound and then muster all my courage to go on around, but in that
> confusion and hesitation, I forgot one small detail; quit pulling back on
> that stick and go forward with it. Before I cound realize what was
> happening
> I shot out of the bottom of the world in what I think they call a "split
> s".
> But the little plane was in one piece, the meter read 6.5 "g"s and I was
> shaking like a leaf. Luckily the airport was only about 3 minutes away. I
> parked my bird and went in and sat on the hanger floor, leaned up against
> the wall and shook like a leaf. I decided right there and then that I
> would
> never do anymore aerobatics in anything without a parachute and some real
> good instruction. That little airplane is stout. There was a 3 near here
> that went thru a stall-spin at about 40 feet and cartwheeled end over end,
> wingtip to wingtip and the pilot walked away and it has been rebuilt, but
> I
> am not cut out to be a test pilot, cause I don't know what you are
> supposed
> to do when you reach that pont where you have exceeded the limits and it
> starts to come apart.
>
> John Disher, Summerville, SC.
> -------Original Message-------
>
> From: Alan & Linda Daniels
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Kitfox movies
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Alan & Linda Daniels
> <aldaniels@fmtc.com>
>
> My brother can roll my Fox so smooth that if you had your eyes shut you
> would not know you went around. The problem is if you botch the maneuver
> you can dish out and put quite a load on the plane. Dutch roll left and
> right to 90 until you are comfortable, and then go on around remember to
> change rudder impute as required. I am not an aerobatic pilot so I do
> not do them without someone who is. I know that we have also discussed
> the aggressive spin entry of the Fox several years ago also. It is a
> very capable plane, but it is not an aerobatic plane.
>
> Rex Hefferan wrote:
>
>>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Rex Hefferan <kitfox-m2@earthlink.net>
>>
>>I had only heard about Kitfox rolls being done before seeing the videos.
>>
>>
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 23
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 04:08:37 PM PST US
> From: "Ted Palamarek" <temco@telusplanet.net>
> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: 914
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Ted Palamarek" <temco@telusplanet.net>
>
> Mike
>
> If I recall correctly, Murle turboed the engine himself and
> it was not a standard factory built 914 turbo. I am not sure
> what engine he used --- perhaps a 912ul. I was at his place
> when he was figuring out the control system for it.
>
> Ted
> Edmonton, Ab
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of
> Michael
> Gibbs
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: 914
>
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michael Gibbs
> <MichaelGibbs@cox.net>
>
>>The 914 is operating under a continuous boost... it is
> rated at 100
>>hp continuous to 16000 ft. The 5 minute limit is for full
> power
>>operations.
>
> I will certainly go and check my facts, but my comments were
> based on
> Murle Williams' experience with the 914. Murle liked the
> idea that
> his 'fox could outrun his squadron buddies. When the newer
> planes
> started sporting 912S engines he could no longer keep up
> with them.
> He recently sold his 914 in favor of a 912S.
>
> Mike G.
> N728KF
>
>
> ==
> ==
> ==
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 24
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 04:24:33 PM PST US
> From: "David Savener" <david_savener@msn.com>
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Kitfox Aerobatics
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "David Savener" <david_savener@msn.com>
>
> Please. Think about this for just a minute.
>
> Did you teach yourself to fly without instruction?
> Did you learn to fly your conventional geared aircraft without some
> practice and
> instruction?
> We have all heard about people who think "I'll just fast taxi a lot, then
> crow
> hop a few times, then I'll be an ultralite pilot!! They almost always
> crash.
>
> SPEND A FEW BUCKS AND GET A FEW HOURS OF AEROBATIC INSTRUCTION BEFORE YOU
> PULL
> THE WINGS OFF OF THAT COOL LITTLE AIRPLANE.
>
> Aerobatics are great fun AFTER you get some instruction. and just as
> dangerous
> as learning to fly without some help if you don't get some practice with
> someone
> along to keep you out of trouble.
>
> I found an ex military instructor with an aerobatic Cessna 152 with a
> Sparrowhawk
> Mod.(125 HP engine) and took a begginner's course.
>
> It's great fun and builds lots of confidence. Just about the best and
> most fun
> $600 I ever spent.
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Rick<mailto:wingsdown@comcast.net> o:
> kitfox-list@matronics.com<mailto:kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 4:30 PM
> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Kitfox movies
>
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rick"
> <wingsdown@comcast.net<mailto:wingsdown@comcast.net>>
>
> I have done two in the old model 5 fox. That was with a most capable and
> experienced pilot. The plane will do just about anything you ask. The
> margin
> for error and exceeding load capabilities can happen very quickly. An
> aerobatic plane gives you a much greater OH !@%$<mailto:!@%$> factor time
> to pull it out.
> Just my opinion. But by all mean have fun, life is to short.
>
> Rick
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From:
> owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com<mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com>
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com]On Behalf Of Alan & Linda
> Daniels
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com<mailto:kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Kitfox movies
>
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Alan & Linda Daniels
> <aldaniels@fmtc.com<mailto:aldaniels@fmtc.com>>
>
> My brother can roll my Fox so smooth that if you had your eyes shut you
> would not know you went around. The problem is if you botch the maneuver
> you can dish out and put quite a load on the plane. Dutch roll left and
> right to 90 until you are comfortable, and then go on around remember to
> change rudder impute as required. I am not an aerobatic pilot so I do
> not do them without someone who is. I know that we have also discussed
> the aggressive spin entry of the Fox several years ago also. It is a
> very capable plane, but it is not an aerobatic plane.
>
> Rex Hefferan wrote:
>
> >--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Rex Hefferan
> <kitfox-m2@earthlink.net<mailto:kitfox-m2@earthlink.net>>
> >
> >I had only heard about Kitfox rolls being done before seeing the videos.
> >
> >
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 25
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 04:33:16 PM PST US
> From: "Rex & Jan Shaw" <rexjan@bigpond.com>
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Tricycle gear
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Rex & Jan Shaw" <rexjan@bigpond.com>
>
> TAILDRAGGER
> EASY, THAT'S TOO MUCH.
>
> Taildragger, I hate your guts,
> I have the license, ratings and such.
> But to make you go straight is driving me nuts.
> With hours of teaching and the controls in my clutch.
> It takes a little rudder, easy, that's too much.
>
> You see, I learned to fly in a tricycle gear
> with one up front and two in the rear.
> She was sleek and clean and easy to steer.
> But this miserable thing with tires and struts.
> Takes a little rudder, easy, that's too much.
>
> It demands your attention on the take-off roll.
> Or it'll head towards Jones's as you pour on the coal.
> Gotta hang loose, don't over control.
>
> This wicked little plane is just too much.
> With a lot of zigzagging and words obscene
> I think I've mastered this slippery machine.
> It's not that bad if you have the touch.
> Just a little rudder, easy, that's too much.
>
> I relax for a second and from the corner of my eye,
> I suddenly realize with a gasp and a cry.
> That's my own tail that's going by.
> You ground looping wreck; I hate your guts,
> Give a little rudder, Great Scott,
>
> EASY, THAT'S TOO MUCH.
>
> rexjan@bigpond.com
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 26
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 07:20:35 PM PST US
> From: Jerry Liles <wliles@bayou.com>
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Kitfox 6 airfoil
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jerry Liles <wliles@bayou.com>
>
> The airfoil is one of Harry Riblet's design. I'm not certain which one,
> but it was advertised as having some properties of a laminar flow foil.
> It's claimed properties are derived from computer simulations. I don't
> think it has been wind tunnel tested, but I may be wrong. At any rate
> it is a decent but not miraculous airfoil and serves the Kitfox well.
>
> Jerry Liles
>
> rkstevens@verizon.net wrote:
>
>>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: <rkstevens@verizon.net>
>>
>>Does anybody have handy the Kitfox 6 (5 thru 7 would work too) NACA
>>airfoil number/designation?
> I can't seem to find it anywhere. I need it for my son's school
> science project.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Ron
>>Series 6 NSI Turbo CAP 140
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 27
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 07:23:31 PM PST US
> From: Rex Hefferan <kitfox-m2@earthlink.net>
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Kitfox movies
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Rex Hefferan <kitfox-m2@earthlink.net>
>
> Well John, I'm glad you managed not to become a statistic. I also had an
> opportunity to get aerobatic instruction when I was getting my
> Commercial and I kept with it and flew many aerobatic flights. It's been
> too many years now and I'd have to get some refresher training. I'm not
> sure I'd want to do any in my Model 2 once it's flying again anyway.
> Rex
> Colorado
>
> John Disher wrote:
>
>>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "John Disher" <jdisher@intergate.com>
>>
>>I have a Kitfox IV Speedster with a 912. I saw a Kitfox getting really
>>wrung out at Sun and Fun back in 93 and when I finished mine about a year
>>later had a real urge to do a loop and a roll. I used to go out over the
>>lakes near here on Sunday mornings and play around. I had a little
>>aerobatic
>>familiarization when I did my Commercial a bunch of years ago and knew
>>just
>>enough to get myself in trouble.
>>
>>I started with a loop, but each time, by the time I got that little plane
>>going straight up, I would chicken out and push the stick forward. Finally
>>one day I stayed with it , but I hadn't built quite enpugh speed in the
>>dive
>>before I pulled up and probably was at about 120 and ran out of speed
>>before
>>I got all the way up and over and kind of fell out of the top. At that
>>point
>>the speed starts building like crazy and it gets real scary knowing you
>>have
>>to pull out of it before you get too much speed and too many G's.
>>
>>So at that point I decided that maybe a roll would be much less hair
>>raising
>> After all, what can possibly go wrong??????
>>
>>Well the Sunday morning roll attemps would bring out a lot of "chicken"
>>when
>>that monsterous roll rate almost instantaneously gets that little bird
>>standing on a wingtip, and I would level it back out. Then one Sunday I
>>told
>>myself thast today was the day. No chickening out. I drop the nose a
>>little
>>to build a little speed, then pull back and roll left and as the world is
>>suddenly at 90 degrees from where it ough to be I mutter Oh, s----,
>>hesitate
>>for a secound and then muster all my courage to go on around, but in that
>>confusion and hesitation, I forgot one small detail; quit pulling back on
>>that stick and go forward with it. Before I cound realize what was
>>happening
>>I shot out of the bottom of the world in what I think they call a "split
>>s".
>>But the little plane was in one piece, the meter read 6.5 "g"s and I was
>>shaking like a leaf. Luckily the airport was only about 3 minutes away. I
>>parked my bird and went in and sat on the hanger floor, leaned up against
>>the wall and shook like a leaf. I decided right there and then that I
>>would
>>never do anymore aerobatics in anything without a parachute and some real
>>good instruction. That little airplane is stout. There was a 3 near here
>>that went thru a stall-spin at about 40 feet and cartwheeled end over end,
>>wingtip to wingtip and the pilot walked away and it has been rebuilt, but
>>I
>>am not cut out to be a test pilot, cause I don't know what you are
>>supposed
>>to do when you reach that pont where you have exceeded the limits and it
>>starts to come apart.
>>
>>John Disher, Summerville, SC.
>>-------Original Message-------
>>
>>From: Alan & Linda Daniels
>>Date: 11/07/05 17:24:08
>>To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>>Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Kitfox movies
>>
>>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Alan & Linda Daniels
>><aldaniels@fmtc.com>
>>
>>My brother can roll my Fox so smooth that if you had your eyes shut you
>>would not know you went around. The problem is if you botch the maneuver
>>you can dish out and put quite a load on the plane. Dutch roll left and
>>right to 90 until you are comfortable, and then go on around remember to
>>change rudder impute as required. I am not an aerobatic pilot so I do
>>not do them without someone who is. I know that we have also discussed
>>the aggressive spin entry of the Fox several years ago also. It is a
>>very capable plane, but it is not an aerobatic plane.
>>
>>Rex Hefferan wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>>--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Rex Hefferan <kitfox-m2@earthlink.net>
>>>
>>>I had only heard about Kitfox rolls being done before seeing the videos.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 28
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 07:50:14 PM PST US
> From: kurt schrader <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Kitfox 6 airfoil
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: kurt schrader
> <smokey_bear_40220@yahoo.com>
>
> The airfoil designatioon is listed in the front of my
> S-5 builder's manual. You might check your S-6 manual
> for it too. It was in one of my early pages, or under
> the wing section first page. But I think it was in
> with the description at the start.
>
> I am going back to KY tomorrow. I'll see if I can get
> to it for you, if someone doesn't have it in a day or
> 2.
>
> Kurt S.
>
> --- rkstevens@verizon.net wrote:
>
>> Does anybody have handy the Kitfox 6 (5 thru 7 would
>> work too) NACA airfoil number/designation? I can't
>> seem to find it anywhere. I need it for my son's
>> school science project.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Ron
>> Series 6 NSI Turbo CAP 140
>
>
> __________________________________
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 29
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 08:04:46 PM PST US
> From: "Randy Daughenbaugh" <rjdaugh@rapidnet.com>
> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Stick Boots
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Randy Daughenbaugh"
> <rjdaugh@rapidnet.com>
>
> Cliff, Gary,
> I did go flying today, but didn't look at the boots. I will go up to the
> hangar tomorrow and see if I can get the dimensions. I don't know if I
> can describe them or will have to draw something to make it clear.
>
> Randy
>
> Do not archive.
>
> .
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary Olson
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Stick Boots
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Gary Olson <ofd725@yahoo.com>
>
> Hey, any chance you could send them my way as well?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> Gary
>
> Clifford Begnaud <shoeless@barefootpilot.com> wrote:
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Clifford Begnaud"
>
> Randy,
> This is what I'm looking for.
> Thanks,
> Cliff do not archive
>>
>>
>> Cliff,
>> My wife made me some boots out of the same material she made the cushions
>> from. Each is made of four triangles of material sown into a pyramid and
>> attached to the floor board with Velcro. I don't think the triangles are
>> all the same size. If this is of interest to you, I can get dimensions
>> from
>> this.
>>
>> It is not a cone but sits on a rectangular base.
>>
>
>
> ________________________________ Message 30
> ____________________________________
>
>
> Time: 11:52:20 PM PST US
> From: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
> Subject: SV: Kitfox-List: Kitfox movies
>
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no>
>
>> From: Alan & Linda Daniels [aldaniels@fmtc.com]
>> I know that we have also discussed
>> the aggressive spin entry of the Fox several years ago also.
>
> Could you explain this a bit deeper, please? I will NEVER do aerobatics in
> my Kitfox,
> I just want to know what to expect if I am not careful.
>
> Cheers,
> Michel
>
> do not archive
>
>
> The airfoil used on Kitfox models 4 - 7 is Harry Riblett's GA 30U-612,
> Kitfox Lite uses GA 30-812,
models 1-3 uses Dean Wilson's airfoil as used on his
Avids, it has a pronounced under camber, max thickness
is 11.35% at abt 25% chord vs. 12% thickness at 30%
chord for the Ribletts on the Kitfox and uses the forward
spar itself as the leading edge as opposed to the pvc
extrusion on the 4 -7's.
>
>
>
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Richard Hutson" <rhutson@midsouth.rr.com>
http://www.kodiakbs.com/krlcontactinfo.htm
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ubject: Kitfox-List: Kodiak
> --> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Greaves" <tenorio41@comcast.net>
>
> Does anyone know of a way to get ahold of Kodiak directly? Skystar told
> me my engine money was in their hands and it appears that the engine is
> not included in the amount Skystar says they owe me (in court docs).
> I want to try and see if I can flag my engine so that it comes to me
> rather than to Idaho.
>
>DO NOT ACHIEVE
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--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Richard Hutson" <rhutson@midsouth.rr.com>
>
> Does anyone know of a way to get ahold of Kodiak directly? Skystar told
> me my engine money was in their hands and it appears that the engine is
> not included in the amount Skystar says they owe me (in court docs).
> I want to try and see if I can flag my engine so that it comes to me
> rather than to Idaho.
I'm quite sure one of these dealerships can get a direct line to Kodiak.
this is off there website.
California
California Power Systems Inc.
790 - 139th Avenue #4
San Leandro, CA 94578
Order Desk: (800)-AIRWOLF (800)-247-9653
General Inquires & Tech Support: (510)-357-2403
Fax: (510)-357-4429
E-mail - info@800-airwolf.com
www.800-airwolf.com
Florida
Lockwood Aviation Supply Inc.
1 Lockwood Lane
Sebring, FL 33870
Order Desk: (800)-LA-ROTAX (800)-527-6829
General Inquires: (863)-655-5100
Technical Support: (863)-655-6227
Fax: (863)-655-6225
E-mail- lockwood@digital.net
www.lockwood-aviation.com
Mississippi
South Mississippi Light Aircraft Inc.
119 Sky Lane
Lucedale, MS 39452
Order Desk: (800)-AIR-SMLA (800)-247-7652
General Inquires & Technical Support: (601)-947-4953
Fax: (601)-947-4959
E-Mail: flysmla@flysmla.com
www.flysmla.com
Wisconsin
Leading Edge Air Foils, LLC
P.O. Box 231
1216 North Road
Lyons WI 53148
Order Desk: (800)-LEAF-INC (800)-532-3462
General Inquires & Technical Support: (262)-763-4087
Fax: (262)-763-1920
E-mail - info@leadingedge-airfoils.com
www.leadingedge-airfoils.com
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