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1. 03:11 AM - Re: Painted Prop Tips vrs Prop Balance (Lynn Matteson)
2. 03:16 AM - Re: Much foward stick on climbout (dave)
3. 03:29 AM - Re: aerocet 1100 amphib rigging (dave)
4. 03:48 AM - Re: Much foward stick on climbout (Catz631@aol.com)
5. 03:58 AM - Re: Re: Much foward stick on climbout (Catz631@aol.com)
6. 05:44 AM - Re: aerocet 1100 amphib rigging (vetdrem)
7. 06:12 AM - Re: Re: Much foward stick on climbout (steve shinabery)
8. 07:41 AM - structeral epoxy questions (Jim_and_Lucy Chuk)
9. 08:41 AM - Re: structural epoxy questions (Ted Palamarek)
10. 08:47 AM - Re: aerocet 1100 amphib rigging (dave)
11. 10:42 AM - Re: structeral epoxy questions (Lynn Matteson)
12. 11:24 AM - BRS and 2 strokes - Was Much foward stick on climbout (Marco Menezes)
13. 11:54 AM - Connecticut Post Online: student-made plane soars (msm_9949@yahoo.com)
14. 04:04 PM - Re: New Kitfox fourm available OT (Noel Loveys)
15. 04:06 PM - Re: New Kitfox fourm available (Noel Loveys)
16. 04:50 PM - Re: Re: Painted Prop Tips vrs Prop Balance (Noel Loveys)
17. 04:55 PM - Re: Re: Much foward stick on climbout (Noel Loveys)
18. 06:57 PM - Re: BRS and 2 strokes - Was Much foward stick on climbout (Michael Gibbs)
19. 07:03 PM - Re: structeral epoxy questions (Tom Jones)
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| Subject: | Re: Painted Prop Tips vrs Prop Balance |
I've got a clear-coated wood prop and when I land with the sun low
and behind me, it's a bitch to see through that reflective prop
circle. I've thought about painting the backside black, but have
hesitated because of the necessity of balance afterward....it's one
thing to touch up the tips as I just did, but painting the whole
prop, even just the backside would almost certainly call for a
balance job. I've done model airplane props, and if you paint one
tip, it will swing radically to one side (of the balance jig) until
dry, then it will swing less actively. This is to say the dried paint
weighs less, but you all knew that. I've done balancing on several
large fan blades, but haven't tried a prop like mine yet. I guess
I'll have to rig up a larger jig and check my prop now that it looks
like the "chunk" is liable to stay on. Besides, I need to earn my
Airplane Propellor-Balancing Merit Badge.
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster
Jabiru 2200
Status: flying w/528 hrs
On Jun 14, 2008, at 1:05 AM, Guy Buchanan wrote:
>
> At 03:48 PM 6/13/2008, you wrote:
>> I am considering painting the outside 2 to 3 inches of my prop to
>> make it more visible while running. I have a Warp Drive prop and
>> would probably paint white tips on it with just a can of regular
>> white spray paint. Any chance of changing the balance of the
>> prop? Good idea or bad?
>
> I painted the forward faces of my prop white, with red tips
> with black pin striping. I was careful to paint the same, but
> dynamically balanced after anyway. The balance turned out to be
> very close so I don't think you'll have a problem. It's a good idea
> for safety, but as was mentioned elsewhere, don't paint the back of
> the blades, it makes them visible from the cockpit.
>
>
> Guy Buchanan
> San Diego, CA
> K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Much foward stick on climbout |
Mike ,
That I meant in above message -- do W & B first .........
Then if too far aft remove the BRS and try it .......... if the Cof G become in
range again then remove it and test fly it.
As far as the 2 stroke comment -----what ever .......... 99% of all engine failures
stem from the operator .. 912s die too as do any engine.......... most issues
are fuel related. My Kitfox has 470 hours on the last engine i put in June
2006 and that is my 3rd engine in this plane.
And furthermore I would certainly rather land engine out in control that with a
BRS taking you were it wants to . Kitfoxes make good gliders.
Dave
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| Subject: | Re: aerocet 1100 amphib rigging |
Louis , I was not aware that Aerocets went over centre to lock up when gear is
retracted ? Mine are held up by the control cables and the Johnson bar detent
that locks them up. When locked down the Johnson bar once again has a detent
that holds the gear over centre and locked down. You have to make sure that mains
especially are over centre when the handle is locked in the detant. If not
you will twist one of the parts inside and/or bend or shear off the bolts that
go through it.
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| Subject: | Re: Much foward stick on climbout |
Chris,
What you could do,as I did,is to install an elevator trim tab. I too have
the classic 4 with the BRS behind the seat. I am much heavier than you and
have the stab adjusted to the bottom hole vs the top. I was getting an arm like
"Popeye" holding back pressure on landing. I also had to hold a little
forward pressure on take off and in cruise which I solved by installing a little
bungee device on the stick (as I once had in a Tailwind)
Finally I said enough of this mickey mouse stuff and I ordered an elevator
trim system from Highwing LLc .I installed the "hat" switch on the stick and
I can now take off , cruise and land almost hands off. No more elevator
pressure. It is the best improvement I have done on the aircraft. I feel your
pain !
Dick Maddux
Fox 4-1200
Pensacola,Fl
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| Subject: | Re: Much foward stick on climbout |
My Fox 4 has the BRS behind the co pilot also and my battery is on the
inside of the firewall (pilot compartment side). I weigh 230 lbs (I know lard
ass)
I am running the 912 which is somewhat heavier than the 2 stroke I believe.
I just did a weight and balance a month ago and I am comfortably within the
cg limits and no way to get out of limits without exceeding gross (which I
won,t do)
Dick Maddux
Pensacola,Fl
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| Subject: | Re: aerocet 1100 amphib rigging |
Dave,
There is an up lock also, at least for the mains. The General description mentions
it, and Step 30 of the installation instructions talks about it also. I
can get the mains to lock in the up position, but not the nose wheels. That is
why I asked. I think that I am going to ASSume there is not an uplock for the
nose wheels.
Louie
191GW
model 3 912ul
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| Subject: | Re: Much foward stick on climbout |
kitfoxmike wrote:
>
> No way, leave the BRS on when doing the weight and balance, it is part of the
aircraft. Chances are you have too much tail weight. Besides you need to know
what your current problem is. Sorry to say this, but the BRS is a must if
you have a 2 stroke. I'm going to catch heck now.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=187836#187836
>
>
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> Checked by AVG.
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WOW,Mike that Hurts,,Steve Shinabery N554KF KF2 with the mighty 582
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| Subject: | structeral epoxy questions |
Hi all, I'm about to start working on my Kitfox 4 project wings and have s
ome questions about the epoxy. I got 2 cans of each of the Scotch weld 221
6 B/A adhesive, but they are as old as the kit (1994). I mixed some up and
left it on a piece of plywood and stuck a 16 penny nail in it. When it ha
rded, I tried to bend the nail out of it sideways, and all that happened wa
s the nail bent. Even though it seems good, I suppose I should get new adh
esive. Any thoughts on a good adhesive besides Scotch weld and any ideas o
n getting accurate mix ratios of the two parts of the glue would help me.
I see some of these glues can be pumped through a small double caulk gun an
d it comes out mixed, anybody use that stuff? Thanks, Jim Chuk Avids,
Kitfox 4
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| Subject: | structural epoxy questions |
Jim
The glue that is supplied now is "Hysol 9460" and it comes in tubes that you
can attach the missing nozzles to. John McBean at Kitfox has the glue and
mixing nozzles. Give him a call and I'm sure he will get what ever you need
off to you quickly.
Ted Palamarek
Edmonton Alberta
KF IV-912
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[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jim_and_Lucy
Chuk
Sent: June 14, 2008 8:39 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: structeral epoxy questions
Hi all, I'm about to start working on my Kitfox 4 project wings and have
some questions about the epoxy. I got 2 cans of each of the Scotch weld
2216 B/A adhesive, but they are as old as the kit (1994). I mixed some up
and left it on a piece of plywood and stuck a 16 penny nail in it. When it
harded, I tried to bend the nail out of it sideways, and all that happened
was the nail bent. Even though it seems good, I suppose I should get new
adhesive. Any thoughts on a good adhesive besides Scotch weld and any ideas
on getting accurate mix ratios of the two parts of the glue would help me.
I see some of these glues can be pumped through a small double caulk gun and
it comes out mixed, anybody use that stuff? Thanks, Jim Chuk Avids,
Kitfox 4
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| Subject: | Re: aerocet 1100 amphib rigging |
vet, read again and study your gear.
The Johnson bar holds your gear in the "locked up" position . There is NO over
centre on the retract mode. So if your Johnson bar comes out of the detent when
retracted then your gear will fall and /or sag.
I got mine in shop today. Have to repair the Left main gear. Fiberglass is cracked
at link tube. I too abusive hundreds of landings on grass runways beats
em up annually.
Dave
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Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada
Flying Videos and Kitfox Info
http://www.cfisher.com/
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| Subject: | Re: structeral epoxy questions |
Hi Jim-
When I got my 3-previous-owners kit, I smelled the structural
adhesive, and it smelled strong of ammonia, which I heard/read was
the death knell of this product. This product was 10 years old at the
time, so I "chuked" it....bad pun intended. I ordered Hysol 9460
locally in...as I recall...1pound cans...one each of hardener and
epoxy. They got to me in less than 24 hours.
I mix mine using the gram scales that were formerly used in my other
life....NO, NO, NO...not seriously. What I do is set the scales up
with a clear plastic yogurt lid on the side where the adhesive is to
be placed, then set the scales to zero. Then using the desired amount
of each, measure the exact amount of each by weight. Measuring each
by volume doesn't work for me...too imprecise. But whatever method
you chose to weigh or eyeball, the beauty of mixing on the
CLEAR...not translucent...plastic or glass is that you can see when
the mix is absolutely all mixed by looking at the underside of the
glass or plastic...it'll be all grey with no white or black streaks
showing.
One guy told me he mixed the stuff by putting one part of the black
on the "mixing board" and then adding the white until the mix was
grey. I can't imagine he ever got two batches mixed the same but he
says he did. I'm too anal to do it this way. And I'm too damned cheap
to buy the double tube stuff...what happens when you get to the end,
toss the stuff left in the tube when the plunger is all the way in?
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster
Jabiru 2200
Status: flying w/530 hrs
On Jun 14, 2008, at 10:38 AM, Jim_and_Lucy Chuk wrote:
> Hi all, I'm about to start working on my Kitfox 4 project wings
> and have some questions about the epoxy. I got 2 cans of each of
> the Scotch weld 2216 B/A adhesive, but they are as old as the kit
> (1994). I mixed some up and left it on a piece of plywood and
> stuck a 16 penny nail in it. When it harded, I tried to bend the
> nail out of it sideways, and all that happened was the nail bent.
> Even though it seems good, I suppose I should get new adhesive.
> Any thoughts on a good adhesive besides Scotch weld and any ideas
> on getting accurate mix ratios of the two parts of the glue would
> help me. I see some of these glues can be pumped through a small
> double caulk gun and it comes out mixed, anybody use that stuff?
> Thanks, Jim Chuk Avids, Kitfox 4
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| Subject: | BRS and 2 strokes - Was Much foward stick on climbout |
Heck Mike, let me be among the first. There's no point in my trying to
convince those suffering from 2-stroke phobia of their reliability and safety
when properly maintained and operated. But, even if they were all
you mistakenly believe they are, BRS is not the answer.
BRS is for saving your bacon when structural failures occur in flight. In an engine-out
situation, you generally fly the airplane down and make the best landing
you can. That's true whether your flying behind a P&W or a Stihl (though
I suspect mountain flying and epilepsy might be exceptions to this general
rule).
Kitfoxes are structurally sound and my Mod II needs every spare ounce for fuel
and passenger. SO, at least in my case, BRS is like the proverbial "back
pockets on a hog." Sure, I'd be "safer" with BRS. Microsoft Flight Simunator
is safer too. :-)
Marco Menezes
M2, 589-90 , "C" box
xmike <customtrans@qwest.net> wrote:
From: kitfoxmike <customtrans@qwest.net>
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Much foward stick on climbout
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "kitfoxmike"
<customtrans@qwest.net>
No way, leave the BRS on when doing the weight and balance, it is part of the
aircraft. Chances are you have too much tail weight. Besides you need to know
what your current problem is. Sorry to say this, but the BRS is a must if you
have a 2 stroke. I'm going to catch heck now.
Read this topic online here:
http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=187836#187836
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| Subject: | Connecticut Post Online: student-made plane soars |
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| Subject: | New Kitfox fourm available OT |
I don't know about wood fired but occasionally the rubber bands do get a bit
stretched. J!
To address the whole idea of a new Kitfox list: Why fix something that isn't
broke? I agree wholeheartedly with the idea it's not the hardware of the
list but the members who make things interesting. I do a lot more reading
here than I do writing. As I'm in the throes of installing a 912 into my
plane, and I know so little about this engine, I've been doing a lot of mail
reading. Often I come across items, like this one, that I feel deserve a
comment. I would miss a lot of that on a more structured list.
Noel
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of patrick reilly
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 6:00 PM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: New Kitfox fourm available
Rick, Good Luck with the web page. This one works pretty well. I am also
interested in RV's but to me Van's Airforce web is too complex. Us Kitfoxers
are simple folk. Hell, Lynn and Deke up in MI still use Kerosene powered
computers and I think Noel and Dave in Canada are running wood fired MACs.
We don't mind hitting the keyboard 2 or 3 times to get info, but, Damn it,
that's it!
Do Not Archive
Pat Reilly
Mod 3 582 Rebuild
Rockford, IL
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From: randy@romeolima.com
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: New Kitfox fourm available
Hi Rick,
Thanks for your comments. Having been a long time RV builder and user of the
www.vansairforce.net <http://www.vansairforce.net/> forums I know that the
vBulletin forum platform has some significant features that enhance the user
experience. Yes, it is different, but once you get your routine down with
forum and thread subscriptions I think you'll find it to be a better tool.
Also, and this is a biggie, I have it set up to allow pictures to be
embedded right in the messages (although limited in size to 640 x 640
pixels). Most folks have digital cameras these days, and we all know that
one picture is worth a thousand words, yet most folks also don't have their
own web sites for posting pics. Therefore simply putting a copy in your
message is powerful indeed. If you check around the web you'll see that all
the truly state-of-the art communities use vbulletin or something
equivalent.
Several years ago the RV community went through this exact transition and
there were a few who didn't understand or support the idea, but over time
the bulk of the community did and never looked back.
Of course I am just providing an alternative, users are free to go where
they like, but you have my commitment to develop TeamKitfox.com into a truly
valuable tool for the community. As an EAA Chapter president, Technical
Counselor, Flight Advisor, and two time RV builder I am in it for the long
run.
Cheers,
Randy
----- Original Message -----
From: Rick <mailto:wingsdown@verizon.net>
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 9:14 AM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: New Kitfox fourm available
I like the web page look, but I really think this could be incorporated into
the existing forum. It is the knowledge and experiences of builders and
flyers that make this forum so powerful. Besides it takes money and personal
time to run a forum so why duplicate efforts. I am not building at present
but I really want to know our list be around in 5 years. Maybe you should
talk with Matt Dralle off line.
Rick
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Randy Lervold
Sent: 2008-06-13 08:42
Subject: Kitfox-List: New Kitfox fourm available
Kitfoxers,
Just a quick note to let you all know about a new Kitfox forum I've started
with some different features than are offered here on this list. Please
consider taking a minute to check it out... www.teamkitfox.com
<http://www.teamkitfox.com/>
In the interest of building an enhanced online community I'd appreciate your
feedback on features you'd like to see.
Randy Lervold
Kitfox Super Sport, just starting
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| Subject: | New Kitfox fourm available |
Lynn:
There are days I think your Mac has enough corn :-) And my PC is catching
it!
Noel
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lynn Matteson
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 6:43 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: New Kitfox fourm available
I'm gonna trade my kerosene Mac in on a corn-powered Mac as soon as
they can down-grade to that technology.
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster
Jabiru 2200
Status: flying w/528 hrs
do not archive
On Jun 13, 2008, at 4:29 PM, patrick reilly wrote:
> Rick, Good Luck with the web page. This one works pretty well. I am
> also interested in RV's but to me Van's Airforce web is too
> complex. Us Kitfoxers are simple folk. Hell, Lynn and Deke up in MI
> still use Kerosene powered computers and I think Noel and Dave in
> Canada are running wood fired MACs. We don't mind hitting the
> keyboard 2 or 3 times to get info, but, Damn it, that's it!
> Do Not Archive
>
> Pat Reilly
> Mod 3 582 Rebuild
> Rockford, IL
>
>
> From: randy@romeolima.com
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: New Kitfox fourm available
> Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 09:49:31 -0700
>
> Hi Rick,
>
> Thanks for your comments. Having been a long time RV builder and
> user of the www.vansairforce.net forums I know that the vBulletin
> forum platform has some significant features that enhance the user
> experience. Yes, it is different, but once you get your routine
> down with forum and thread subscriptions I think you'll find it to
> be a better tool. Also, and this is a biggie, I have it set up to
> allow pictures to be embedded right in the messages (although
> limited in size to 640 x 640 pixels). Most folks have digital
> cameras these days, and we all know that one picture is worth a
> thousand words, yet most folks also don't have their own web sites
> for posting pics. Therefore simply putting a copy in your message
> is powerful indeed. If you check around the web you'll see that all
> the truly state-of-the art communities use vbulletin or something
> equivalent.
>
> Several years ago the RV community went through this exact
> transition and there were a few who didn't understand or support
> the idea, but over time the bulk of the community did and never
> looked back.
>
> Of course I am just providing an alternative, users are free to go
> where they like, but you have my commitment to develop
> TeamKitfox.com into a truly valuable tool for the community. As an
> EAA Chapter president, Technical Counselor, Flight Advisor, and two
> time RV builder I am in it for the long run.
>
> Cheers,
> Randy
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Rick
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 9:14 AM
> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: New Kitfox fourm available
>
> I like the web page look, but I really think this could be
> incorporated into the existing forum. It is the knowledge and
> experiences of builders and flyers that make this forum so
> powerful. Besides it takes money and personal time to run a forum
> so why duplicate efforts. I am not building at present but I
> really want to know our list be around in 5 years. Maybe you should
> talk with Matt Dralle off line.
>
>
> Rick
> -----Original Message-----
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| Subject: | Re: Painted Prop Tips vrs Prop Balance |
I had a three blade Ivo IFA on my 582. It had the stainless steel tapes to
protect the leading edge. I did find it would glint in the sun when I was
flying with the sun behind me. Rather than have a prop all white I think
the two white stripes near the tips of the props
Noel Loveys
AME Intern, RPP
Kitfox III-A, 582,B box
Ivo IFA, Aerocet 1100 floats
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From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of FlyboyTR
Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2008 12:36 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Painted Prop Tips vrs Prop Balance
Jim,
I personally do not recommend painting the back of the prop. In doing so,
the prop now becomes visible to the pilot and creates a white or yellow ring
in the visual field. In general terms, the back of the prop should be
black. The color needs to be on the front. I had the opportunity to fly
behind a new composite prop that was all white. After about 2 hours of
looking through this white ring I suggested to the new owner that he paint
the back of the prop black. Now the prop is virtually invisible to the
pilot...and no more headaches and tired eyes.
When you paint your three blade Warp, just try to apply the same amount of
paint to each tip. Don't forget to remove your tape before the paint dries!
Let us know how it turns out!
Travis
Jim Shumaker wrote:
> I paint the outer tip of the prop on the back for visibility. The front I
paint as needed for repairs. I use yellow because it is visible and matches
my plane. Balance with a lawnmower blade balancer, available at Sears.
>
> Jim Shumaker
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Travis Rayner
Mobile, AL
Skystar Vixen, N-789DF
Continental IO-240, Prince P-Tip Prop
ADI-II Autopilot
AnyWhereMap Navigation with weather
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| Subject: | Re: Much foward stick on climbout |
I wouldn't say you'll catch heck... But if your plane needs to have a BRS
to be safe then you have the wrong plane. One of the nice things about the
'Fox is it lands pretty nice deadstick. It may be of some use in the case
of a mid air incursion. In such a case the BRS itself may be damaged. If
you have felt safe flying without the BRS then pull it and gain the weight
advantage and help your balance situation which sounds to be seriously aft.
Sigtaturea
Noel Loveys
Campbellton, NL, Canada
CDN AME intern, PP-Rec
C-FINB, Kitfox III-A
Going 912, Aerocet 1100 floats
noelloveys@yahoo.ca
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[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of kitfoxmike
Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2008 12:43 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Much foward stick on climbout
No way, leave the BRS on when doing the weight and balance, it is part of
the aircraft. Chances are you have too much tail weight. Besides you need
to know what your current problem is. Sorry to say this, but the BRS is a
must if you have a 2 stroke. I'm going to catch heck now.
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| Subject: | Re: BRS and 2 strokes - Was Much foward stick on climbout |
Marco sez:
>Sure, I'd be "safer" with BRS. Microsoft Flight Simunator is safer too. :-)
Reminds me of the old saw, "A ship in a harbor is safe, but that's
not what ships are for."
Mike G.
N728KF, Model IV-1200 Speedster
Phoenix, AZ
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| Subject: | Re: structeral epoxy questions |
Jim Chuck
Having used both the 3M and Hysol, I highly recommend the Hysol. It is much easier
to work with. It doesn't sag like the 3m.
To make factory like fillets put the mixed hysol in a sturdy ziplock bag and cut
a small piece of a corner so you can use it like a cake decorator to apply.
Hysol is mixed 50/50 by volume so real easy to portion out too.
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Tom Jones
Classic IV
503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
Ellensburg, WA
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