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1. 12:05 AM - Re: BRS and 2 strokes (Michel Verheughe)
2. 05:46 AM - Re: structeral epoxy questions (Tom Jones)
3. 08:15 AM - Re: BRS and 2 strokes - Was Much foward stick on climbout (Noel Loveys)
4. 08:19 AM - Re: Re: structeral epoxy questions (Noel Loveys)
5. 09:39 AM - Re: BRS and 2 strokes - Was Much foward stick on climbout (Michael Gibbs)
6. 10:07 AM - (OFF-TOPIC) Safety. WAS: BRS and 2 strokes (Michel Verheughe)
7. 10:10 AM - Re: BRS and 2 strokes (Michel Verheughe)
8. 10:37 AM - Re: New Kitfox fourm available (Lynn Matteson)
9. 01:05 PM - Re: Re: BRS and 2 strokes (Guy Buchanan)
10. 02:13 PM - Re: Much foward stick on climbout (EMAproducts@aol.com)
11. 03:40 PM - Re: BRS and 2 strokes - Was Much foward stick on climbout (Keith C.)
12. 05:35 PM - Off-topic...flying machines and Nascar (Lynn Matteson)
13. 06:18 PM - Re: Off-topic...flying machines and Nascar (gary.algate@sandvik.com)
14. 08:41 PM - Re: Re: structeral epoxy questions (Jim_and_Lucy Chuk)
15. 08:53 PM - Atten Michel - Jabiru questions (gary.algate@sandvik.com)
16. 09:36 PM - Re: Engine and Performance Survey (WurlyBird)
17. 10:04 PM - Re: BRS and 2 strokes - Was Much foward stick on climbout (Maurice)
18. 10:11 PM - Re: Kitfox Suber EA81 (2nd message) (WurlyBird)
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| Subject: | RE: BRS and 2 strokes |
> From: Michael Gibbs [MichaelGibbs@cox.net]
> Reminds me of the old saw, "A ship in a harbor is safe, but that's
> not what ships are for."
Arrr, matey! The sea is for sailing!
... incidentally, I never wanted a liferaft in my sailboat. The reason is: statistics
show that you have better chance to stay on the boat than trying to launch
and board a liferaft in a storm. An English saying is: "You can abandon the
vessel when you stand on the spreaders (half-way up the mast) and the water
reaches your shoulders."
The Fastnet race of 1979 saw the worst storm in history. Fifteen sailors died but
only one ship went down. The others were found floating in the water ... among
empty liferafts.
Likewise, I feel that a BRS is somewhat of a danger since once deployed, you're
not anymore the pilot but a passenger. When would you use it, anyway? If a surface
departed the aircraft? Some years ago, a pilot from my airfield flew a Jora
microlight aircraft and the left wing departed. The aircraft had a BRS but
the pilot never managed to deploy it as it went into a mad spin.
In any other situation, I would try to put the plane down at a place I find best
suited.
... but that's me. Guys, don't sue me for my writing; my lawyer will prove in court
that I am stupid and not responsible of my writing! :-)
Cheers,
Michel Verheughe
Norway
Kitfox 3 - Jabiru 2200
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| Subject: | Re: structeral epoxy questions |
Jim,
I should add another hysol or 3m tip. You can position it and smooth it out nicely
with a gloved finger dipped in alcohol.
And don't throw out the old 3m. While you don't want to use it on your wings it
is handy to have around for use on things other than airplane.
--------
Tom Jones
Classic IV
503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
Ellensburg, WA
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| Subject: | BRS and 2 strokes - Was Much foward stick on climbout |
I have to dispute that one... There have been so many ships that sank at
the wharf. There have also been so many ships lost to tsunami while tied to
the wharf. Most ships are really in danger when they are grounded not when
they are afloat on the high seas. Ships are designed to be at sea and all
things being equal they are much safer in deep water.
Any comments Michel?
Noel
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Michael Gibbs
Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2008 11:24 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: BRS and 2 strokes - Was Much foward stick on
climbout
Marco sez:
>Sure, I'd be "safer" with BRS. Microsoft Flight Simunator is safer too. :-)
Reminds me of the old saw, "A ship in a harbor is safe, but that's
not what ships are for."
Mike G.
N728KF, Model IV-1200 Speedster
Phoenix, AZ
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| Subject: | Re: structeral epoxy questions |
Assuming the operative word here is "structural" then the only way to go is
with metered resins (resin to cloth by weight) or Pre-Preg and vacuum
bagging. It also helps to have an ultrasonic tester to check your work.
Past that which resins you use depends on what works best for you.
Noel
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From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tom Jones
Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2008 11:31 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: structeral epoxy questions
Jim Chuck
Having used both the 3M and Hysol, I highly recommend the Hysol. It is much
easier to work with. It doesn't sag like the 3m.
To make factory like fillets put the mixed hysol in a sturdy ziplock bag and
cut a small piece of a corner so you can use it like a cake decorator to
apply.
Hysol is mixed 50/50 by volume so real easy to portion out too.
--------
Tom Jones
Classic IV
503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp
Ellensburg, WA
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| Subject: | BRS and 2 strokes - Was Much foward stick on climbout |
Speaking on the nature of risk in an activity such as aviation, I had sed:
>Reminds me of the old saw, "A ship in a harbor is safe, but that's
>not what ships are for."
To which Noel sez:
>...Ships are designed to be at sea and all things being equal they
>are much safer in deep water.
Sometimes it seems like people go to a fair amount of effort to miss
the point. :-(
I naively thought that this was such a ridiculously simply comment
that maybe folks would just smile and move on to the next message. I
have a feeling that any 'old expression' would have garnered a
comment. If I had said, "A bird in hand is worth two in the bush,"
I'm sure someone would have started commenting on how it really isn't
safe to handle birds due to the risk of contagious diseases and the
possibility of infected scratches.
I'm going to be quiet again now...
Mike G.
N728KF, Kitfox IV-1200 Speedster
Phoenix, AZ
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| Subject: | (OFF-TOPIC) Safety. WAS: BRS and 2 strokes |
> From: Noel Loveys [noelloveys@yahoo.ca]
> Ships are designed to be at sea and all
> things being equal they are much safer in deep water.
> Any comments Michel?
Er ... since you ask: Yes, Noel.
Have you seen the movie The Perfect Storm? Based on a true story, they say. Easy
to say since all we know is that a ship left harbour and never came back. Whatever
happened on board is pure fantasy. But ...
What is true and what we know is that the sailboat Mistral was on its way to Bermuda
and that the skipper wanted to ride to storm at high sea. A wise decision.
But then, after a B2 knockdown (technical term when the mast goes under the
water) the two female passengers decided to call a Mayday and the US Coast Guards
came to the rescue. What is terribly wrong in the movie is that they make
it look like the women were right in calling for help.
That is wrong! First, only the Ship Master (the skipper, in this case) is allowed
to decide to send a Mayday. Second, the decision to do it cost one helicopter
and the life of three pilots. Third, this was very silly because days after,
a fishing vessel towed the sailboat in harbour. It was still floating and in
good conditions.
Now, if I know that, it is because some years ago I was in contact with Bob Makowski,
a US Coast Guard helicopter pilot in Puerto Rico. I was in contact with
him because I needed photos in order to make a multimedia training module for
SAR, which - as you know - is common to aviators and seafarers.
I even have somewhere a photo taken from a helicopter of the yacht Mistral. I'll
see if I can find it somewhere at work.
Sooo, my general conclusion is: Yes, water is the safe thing that can surround
a ship. Just like flying: As long as you have air up, down, left and right, you've
got nothing to fear.
When I was sailing long distances with my wife, we were always in conflict. She
likes to see the coast. I like to see the sea. The coast is where the rocks and
sand banks are!
Cheers,
Michel Verheughe
Norway
Kitfox 3 - Jabiru 2200
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| Subject: | RE: BRS and 2 strokes |
> From: Michael Gibbs [MichaelGibbs@cox.net]
> I'm going to be quiet again now...
Please don't Mike. If you hadn't started the maritime content, I couldn't show
off with my maritime experience! ... okay, my turn to shut up and leave the room
now! :-)
Cheers,
Michel Verheughe
Norway
Kitfox 3 - Jabiru 2200
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| Subject: | Re: New Kitfox fourm available |
GROANNNNN.....!
I gotta admit, Noel, ya got me on that one....
Now if we could just convert all that corn into cornpone (moonshine),
I'd be sittin' on a goldmine.
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster
Jabiru 2200
Status: flying w/530 hrs
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On Jun 14, 2008, at 7:04 PM, Noel Loveys wrote:
>
> Lynn:
>
> There are days I think your Mac has enough corn :-) And my PC is
> catching
> it!
>
> Noel
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lynn
> Matteson
> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 6:43 PM
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: New Kitfox fourm available
>
>
> I'm gonna trade my kerosene Mac in on a corn-powered Mac as soon as
> they can down-grade to that technology.
>
> Lynn Matteson
> Kitfox IV Speedster
> Jabiru 2200
> Status: flying w/528 hrs
> do not archive
>
>
> On Jun 13, 2008, at 4:29 PM, patrick reilly wrote:
>
>> Rick, Good Luck with the web page. This one works pretty well. I am
>> also interested in RV's but to me Van's Airforce web is too
>> complex. Us Kitfoxers are simple folk. Hell, Lynn and Deke up in MI
>> still use Kerosene powered computers and I think Noel and Dave in
>> Canada are running wood fired MACs. We don't mind hitting the
>> keyboard 2 or 3 times to get info, but, Damn it, that's it!
>> Do Not Archive
>>
>> Pat Reilly
>> Mod 3 582 Rebuild
>> Rockford, IL
>>
>>
>> From: randy@romeolima.com
>> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: New Kitfox fourm available
>> Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 09:49:31 -0700
>>
>> Hi Rick,
>>
>> Thanks for your comments. Having been a long time RV builder and
>> user of the www.vansairforce.net forums I know that the vBulletin
>> forum platform has some significant features that enhance the user
>> experience. Yes, it is different, but once you get your routine
>> down with forum and thread subscriptions I think you'll find it to
>> be a better tool. Also, and this is a biggie, I have it set up to
>> allow pictures to be embedded right in the messages (although
>> limited in size to 640 x 640 pixels). Most folks have digital
>> cameras these days, and we all know that one picture is worth a
>> thousand words, yet most folks also don't have their own web sites
>> for posting pics. Therefore simply putting a copy in your message
>> is powerful indeed. If you check around the web you'll see that all
>> the truly state-of-the art communities use vbulletin or something
>> equivalent.
>>
>> Several years ago the RV community went through this exact
>> transition and there were a few who didn't understand or support
>> the idea, but over time the bulk of the community did and never
>> looked back.
>>
>> Of course I am just providing an alternative, users are free to go
>> where they like, but you have my commitment to develop
>> TeamKitfox.com into a truly valuable tool for the community. As an
>> EAA Chapter president, Technical Counselor, Flight Advisor, and two
>> time RV builder I am in it for the long run.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Randy
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Rick
>> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 9:14 AM
>> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: New Kitfox fourm available
>>
>> I like the web page look, but I really think this could be
>> incorporated into the existing forum. It is the knowledge and
>> experiences of builders and flyers that make this forum so
>> powerful. Besides it takes money and personal time to run a forum
>> so why duplicate efforts. I am not building at present but I
>> really want to know our list be around in 5 years. Maybe you should
>> talk with Matt Dralle off line.
>>
>>
>> Rick
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-
>> list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Randy Lervold
>> Sent: 2008-06-13 08:42
>> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Kitfox-List: New Kitfox fourm available
>>
>> Kitfoxers,
>>
>> Just a quick note to let you all know about a new Kitfox forum I've
>> started with some different features than are offered here on this
>> list. Please consider taking a minute to check it
>> out...www.teamkitfox.com
>> In the interest of building an enhanced online community I'd
>> appreciate your feedback on features you'd like to see.
>>
>> Randy Lervold
>> Kitfox Super Sport, just starting
>> www.mykitfox.com
>> www.teamkitfox.com
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| Subject: | Re: RE: BRS and 2 strokes |
At 12:03 AM 6/15/2008, you wrote:
>Likewise, I feel that a BRS is somewhat of a danger since once
>deployed, you're not anymore the pilot but a passenger. When would
>you use it, anyway? If a surface departed the aircraft? Some years
>ago, a pilot from my airfield flew a Jora microlight aircraft and
>the left wing departed. The aircraft had a BRS but the pilot never
>managed to deploy it as it went into a mad spin.
>In any other situation, I would try to put the plane down at a place
>I find best suited.
Well,
They ARE very popular with the ultralight crowd, precisely
for saving their buns when essential pieces leave. (This happens, for
some reason, fairly often.) Ultralights also have a problem with
glide ratio. We've had a couple of local saves.
Guy Buchanan
San Diego, CA
K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 100% done, thanks mostly to Bob Ducar.
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| Subject: | Re: Much foward stick on climbout |
Fellow builders Happy Fathers Day!
I was glad to see that some of you gave good information re the forward
stick on climbout~~
As a 25,000 hour pilot I attribute a lot of my non scary experiences to
always doing a weight and balance prior to every flight in a new aircraft, be it
a Pitts S-2, Aeronca C-3 or a new to me homebuilt. The cause of many
accidents is improper weight and balance because the pilot didn't do it correctly
~~
and have a flight advisor or another pilot double check your work. A tail
heavy aircraft is nothing less than dangerous. Some certified aircraft will
NOT recover from a spin if 1/4 " aft of approved CG. This is from an FAA Test
pilot that was doing spin testing several years ago. If I recall his
comments correctly 3 times out of 5 recovery was normal, other two they had to
pop
the spin chute. Limits are critical ~~We have enough accidents in our
homebuilt aircraft without these type of flights.
Talk to someone who has flown an aircraft of same make and model. Get them
to go over your data, insure all parameters are correct, including your
currency prior to that first flight. If it doesn't feel right ~~Something is
probably wrong. I've flown three KitFox, with Honda & Rotax of different power
engines, they all flew fantastic, trim was excellent on all.
Elbie Mendenhall
CFI since '62
EAA Flight Advisor
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| Subject: | Re: BRS and 2 strokes - Was Much foward stick on climbout |
Thank you Michael.....:-)
Do not archive.
Keith C.
Mod IV 912 IVO
Mather (MHR) CA
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Gibbs" <MichaelGibbs@cox.net>
Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 9:36 AM
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: BRS and 2 strokes - Was Much foward stick on
climbout
>
> Speaking on the nature of risk in an activity such as aviation, I had sed:
>
>>Reminds me of the old saw, "A ship in a harbor is safe, but that's not
>>what ships are for."
>
> To which Noel sez:
>
>>...Ships are designed to be at sea and all things being equal they are
>>much safer in deep water.
>
> Sometimes it seems like people go to a fair amount of effort to miss the
> point. :-(
>
> I naively thought that this was such a ridiculously simply comment that
> maybe folks would just smile and move on to the next message. I have a
> feeling that any 'old expression' would have garnered a comment. If I had
> said, "A bird in hand is worth two in the bush," I'm sure someone would
> have started commenting on how it really isn't safe to handle birds due to
> the risk of contagious diseases and the possibility of infected scratches.
>
> I'm going to be quiet again now...
>
> Mike G.
> N728KF, Kitfox IV-1200 Speedster
> Phoenix, AZ
>
>
>
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| Subject: | Off-topic...flying machines and Nascar |
Nascar racing at Michigan International Speedway brings out a variety
of flying machines, from the multi-million-dollar jets that park at
nearby Jackson County Reynolds Field (JXN) to the guys that haul the
banners around before the Sunday race, to the Chinooks and Blackhawks
that sat down at closer-by Napoleon Airport (3NP..prior to their fly-
by), to the P-51 of Jack Roush, who did a fly-by before Saturdays race.
I did my part by flying over the track about 6:30am to try to wake up
anybody who wasn't hung over from the night before. With a Jabiru up
front, not much noise is forthcoming, but I did my best. Following
that flight, I went out to JXN to land, taxi about, and take off, all
before the tower opened. To me, that is a kind of eerie feeling to
call the tower of a Class D airport, whose ramp is littered with the
20-some jets waiting to depart come Sunday evening, and not hear a
sound in return. I made a call that I was departing from the
intersection of taxiway Bravo and runway 24, and not a peep of
discouragement came from the tower. So off I went, glancing down at
the assembled "million-dollar dogwhistles" below, and flew up to
Mason-Jewett (TEW) for a Dawn Patrol breakfast. I talked to a guy up
there who was building a Model 7 Kitfox, but lost his medical,
depriving him of his hobby and his livelihood....he was a commercial
pilot up until last year. He said he's also lost his enthusiasm for
finishing the plane, and I did my best to bolster his aviation
spirits. Leaving there I flew to 3TE in Tecumseh to look at a Cygnet
that was just purchased by a friend. I left there to fly into 3NP to
hang out and watch the banner fliers pick up their banners, then fly
around the track.
When the wind picked up to gusts of about 25...my guess...I got out
of there and passed a banner-towing flier coming the other way. His
plane was crabbing, his banner was crabbing, and my plane was
crabbing. I got to thinking how much of a problem I'd have if that
banner got detached and decided to become a dust cover for my
plane....in flight...and I gave the other pilot a wide berth as I was
downwind of that banner. It's only a 2.5 mile flight from 3NP to my
strip, but that ride was pretty wild, and I was glad to put it away
after it. Seeing all the various forms of flying machines right here
in my own backyard is almost as good as being at Oshkosh.
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster
Jabiru 2200
Status: flying w/530 hrs
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| Subject: | Re: Off-topic...flying machines and Nascar |
Lynn
do you have wheel pants on your speedster?
Gary
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Kitfox-List: Off-topic...flying machines and Nascar
Nascar racing at Michigan International Speedway brings out a variety
of flying machines, from the multi-million-dollar jets that park at
nearby Jackson County Reynolds Field (JXN) to the guys that haul the
banners around before the Sunday race, to the Chinooks and Blackhawks
that sat down at closer-by Napoleon Airport (3NP..prior to their fly-
by), to the P-51 of Jack Roush, who did a fly-by before Saturdays race.
I did my part by flying over the track about 6:30am to try to wake up
anybody who wasn't hung over from the night before. With a Jabiru up
front, not much noise is forthcoming, but I did my best. Following
that flight, I went out to JXN to land, taxi about, and take off, all
before the tower opened. To me, that is a kind of eerie feeling to
call the tower of a Class D airport, whose ramp is littered with the
20-some jets waiting to depart come Sunday evening, and not hear a
sound in return. I made a call that I was departing from the
intersection of taxiway Bravo and runway 24, and not a peep of
discouragement came from the tower. So off I went, glancing down at
the assembled "million-dollar dogwhistles" below, and flew up to
Mason-Jewett (TEW) for a Dawn Patrol breakfast. I talked to a guy up
there who was building a Model 7 Kitfox, but lost his medical,
depriving him of his hobby and his livelihood....he was a commercial
pilot up until last year. He said he's also lost his enthusiasm for
finishing the plane, and I did my best to bolster his aviation
spirits. Leaving there I flew to 3TE in Tecumseh to look at a Cygnet
that was just purchased by a friend. I left there to fly into 3NP to
hang out and watch the banner fliers pick up their banners, then fly
around the track.
When the wind picked up to gusts of about 25...my guess...I got out
of there and passed a banner-towing flier coming the other way. His
plane was crabbing, his banner was crabbing, and my plane was
crabbing. I got to thinking how much of a problem I'd have if that
banner got detached and decided to become a dust cover for my
plane....in flight...and I gave the other pilot a wide berth as I was
downwind of that banner. It's only a 2.5 mile flight from 3NP to my
strip, but that ride was pretty wild, and I was glad to put it away
after it. Seeing all the various forms of flying machines right here
in my own backyard is almost as good as being at Oshkosh.
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster
Jabiru 2200
Status: flying w/530 hrs
do not archive
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| Subject: | Re: structeral epoxy questions |
Thanks Tom for the tip. And also thanks to all of you others that replied
to my question. One last question, has anyone used Aeropoxy structural adh
esive? I see it is a 1 to 1 mix also. Thanks again, Jim Chuk Avids, kit
fox 4 Mn> Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: structeral epoxy questions> From: nahs
ikhs@elltel.net> Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 05:43:08 -0700> To: kitfox-list@mat
el.net>> > Jim,> I should add another hysol or 3m tip. You can position it
and smooth it out nicely with a gloved finger dipped in alcohol.> > And don
't throw out the old 3m. While you don't want to use it on your wings it is
handy to have around for use on things other than airplane.> > --------> T
om Jones> Classic IV> 503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp> Ellensburg, WA> >
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| Subject: | Atten Michel - Jabiru questions |
Michel
Can you tell me what size prop you are running on your Jab engine and what
speed vs RPM you are running in cruise. Also what is your climb rate say
at 1/2 fuel, pilot only and summer ambient temp around 25 degC.
Appreciate your help as I am just trying to put some comparative figures
together.
Best regards
Gary
Gary Algate
SMC, Exploration
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| Subject: | Re: Engine and Performance Survey |
That is definitely a helpful testimonial. I would love to have that for a lot
of engines. One more question for you. How much is an overhaul of a 912 supposed
to normally cost, assuming no excessive wear or damage?
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| Subject: | Re: BRS and 2 strokes - Was Much foward stick on climbout |
A BRS chute can become necessary in case of stupidity.
When I was in bankruptcy court in Boise, Idaho for four days in the
spring of 2006 to get my 7A released, a fellow, who shall not be identified,
who was trying to get his classic 4 released told me the following story.
Previously he had built a Pulsar with a BRS. One day he was flying it
over a bean field in Indiana at 800 ft AGL when he decided to do an inside
loop. As he started over the top of the loop he started to lose altitude
rapidly and pulled the BRS. The BRS flipped him right side up and settled
him gently down in the bean field. When I asked him why he had attempted an
inside loop at such a low altitude, he answered, " I had done it once
before."
I believe there is an FAA regulation that says that any maneuver that
you commence must be at sufficient altitude that at no time will you go
below 1500 ft. AGL.
Maurice Fitzgerald
----- Original Message -----
From: "Keith C." <kcflys@pacbell.net>
Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 3:37 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: BRS and 2 strokes - Was Much foward stick on
climbout
>
> Thank you Michael.....:-)
>
> Do not archive.
> Keith C.
> Mod IV 912 IVO
> Mather (MHR) CA
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael Gibbs" <MichaelGibbs@cox.net>
> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 9:36 AM
> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: BRS and 2 strokes - Was Much foward stick on
> climbout
>
>
>>
>> Speaking on the nature of risk in an activity such as aviation, I had
>> sed:
>>
>>>Reminds me of the old saw, "A ship in a harbor is safe, but that's not
>>>what ships are for."
>>
>> To which Noel sez:
>>
>>>...Ships are designed to be at sea and all things being equal they are
>>>much safer in deep water.
>>
>> Sometimes it seems like people go to a fair amount of effort to miss the
>> point. :-(
>>
>> I naively thought that this was such a ridiculously simply comment that
>> maybe folks would just smile and move on to the next message. I have a
>> feeling that any 'old expression' would have garnered a comment. If I
>> had said, "A bird in hand is worth two in the bush," I'm sure someone
>> would have started commenting on how it really isn't safe to handle birds
>> due to the risk of contagious diseases and the possibility of infected
>> scratches.
>>
>> I'm going to be quiet again now...
>>
>> Mike G.
>> N728KF, Kitfox IV-1200 Speedster
>> Phoenix, AZ
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox Suber EA81 (2nd message) |
Hey Dave,
What is the deal with the Rotax 583 that I come across every now and then but
don't see on any Rotax dealer pages? Is it just a 582 with some performance
parts put on it by a private company? How does it stack up against a 582 for
reliability? If you or anyone else have answers, let me know. I am just about
sold on a 2 stroke. :)
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