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1. 03:52 AM - Re: Part of the Kitfox Line for sale (dave)
2. 04:04 AM - Re: Part of the Kitfox Line for sale (dave)
3. 04:15 AM - Re: Timing gear (dave)
4. 04:28 AM - Re: Polytone reducer (rawheels)
5. 04:31 AM - Re: Polytone reducer (ElleryWeld@aol.com)
6. 05:05 AM - Re: KitFox Fuel Starvation (Catz631@aol.com)
7. 05:42 AM - Re: Polytone reducer (Lynn Matteson)
8. 05:49 AM - Re: Polytone reducer (ElleryWeld@aol.com)
9. 06:22 AM - Re: certification question (DanM)
10. 06:30 AM - Re: Tailwheel Spring (rawheels)
11. 06:39 AM - Re: Re: Timing gear (Lynn Matteson)
12. 06:50 AM - Re: Re: Part of the Kitfox Line for sale (Lynn Matteson)
13. 07:35 AM - Re: Polytone reducer (Brian Morissette)
14. 08:04 AM - Re: Re: Kitfox Support - was - Part of the Kitfox Line for sale (jdmcbean)
15. 08:30 AM - Re: Re: Kitfox Support (Jose M. Toro)
16. 11:04 AM - Which Expoy Primer and Structural Epoxy Should I Use ??? (JetPilot)
17. 11:28 AM - Re: Ethanol Myths - Facts and/or fiction? (JetPilot)
18. 11:42 AM - Re: Timing gear (Michel Verheughe)
19. 02:25 PM - Re: Which Expoy Primer and Structural Epoxy Should I Use ??? (n85ae)
20. 03:01 PM - Re: Re: Ethanol Myths - Facts and/or fiction? (Michael Gibbs)
21. 04:05 PM - Re: Polytone reducer (gary.algate@sandvik.com)
22. 04:09 PM - Re: Polytone reducer (gary.algate@sandvik.com)
23. 04:39 PM - Re: Re: Ethanol Myths - Facts and/or fiction? (Lynn Matteson)
24. 05:14 PM - Re: Kitfox Support - was - Part of the Kitfox Line for sale (dave)
25. 05:15 PM - Re: Ethanol Myths - Facts and/or fiction? (dave)
26. 05:16 PM - Re: Ethanol Myths - Facts and/or fiction? (dave)
27. 05:18 PM - Re: Kitfox Support (dave)
28. 05:20 PM - Re: Part of the Kitfox Line for sale (dave)
29. 05:23 PM - Re: Re: Ethanol Myths - Facts and/or fiction? (Dee Young)
30. 05:29 PM - Re: Re: Ethanol Myths - Facts and/or fiction? (Michael Gibbs)
31. 05:40 PM - Lacquer thinners (gary.algate@sandvik.com)
32. 06:17 PM - Re: Ethanol Myths - Facts and/or fiction? (dave)
33. 06:18 PM - Re: Lacquer thinners (Larry Huntley)
34. 06:28 PM - Re: Re: Ethanol Myths - Facts and/or fiction? (Michael Gibbs)
35. 06:44 PM - Re: Lacquer thinners (Lynn Matteson)
36. 06:44 PM - Re: Re: Ethanol Myths - Facts and/or fiction? (Sbennett3@aol.com)
37. 06:48 PM - Re: Lacquer thinners (gary.algate@sandvik.com)
38. 06:49 PM - Re: Ethanol Myths - Facts and/or fiction? (dave)
39. 06:53 PM - Re: Lacquer thinners (Sbennett3@aol.com)
40. 07:07 PM - Re: Lacquer thinners (gary.algate@sandvik.com)
41. 07:24 PM - Re: Re: Ethanol Myths - Facts and/or fiction? (Michael Gibbs)
42. 08:11 PM - 2 stroke oil - Pennzoil update (Rexinator)
43. 08:40 PM - Re: Re: Ethanol Myths - Facts and/or fiction? (gary.algate@sandvik.com)
44. 09:40 PM - Little Kitfox Movie (rudderdancer)
45. 10:56 PM - Re: Little Kitfox Movie (gary.algate@sandvik.com)
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| Subject: | Re: Part of the Kitfox Line for sale |
Kitfoxaircraft partner also selling a Model 5 Amphib . With a jab 3300 --
interesting -- I wonder how the performance would be >? for 83,000 it should
be stellar . Does anyone know? This is good for all Kitfox owners if this
plane can sell for a price like this. Kitfoxes are the cheapest decent airplane
on the market.
KITFOX MODEL 5 AMPHIBIAN $83,000 AVAILABLE FOR IMMEDIATE SALE Kitfox 5, jabiru
3300, downwind quad amphibs, new paint (SantaFe Red) 104 hrs TT. Glass Cockpit
Contact Michael Berglund, Owner - located Fountain Hills , AZ USA Telephone:
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| Subject: | Re: Part of the Kitfox Line for sale |
> The Kitfox 7 Super Sport has been for sale for the past couple of years... It
is a tail dragger or tricycle gear, whichever you choose with great STOL performance.
I talked to a guy that visited the factory in Idaho recently and he said
everything was great. He was so positively impressed with the John, the factory,
and the plane that he bought a Kitfox Super Sport kit and is now building
it
>
> Mike
>
Mike , I cannot say that a Super sport is a STOL aircraft as I have never flown one or see and video on one. If it is a STOL aircraft then Mc BEan should be shooting some video to help sell his airplane like this guy did http://ca.youtube.com/watch?v=ct2fNFc8AxY
I will tell you that my videos Have in fact sold many pilots on the Kitfox and
in fact have helped sell many used Kitfoxes. Too bad the Model IV is not sold
new anymore as I think it would be a stellar seller as we already know if built
and flown right it is a stellar performer and would be close to a STOL aircraft.
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Michel, Always interested in all aspects of Kitfoxes.
Any seal can wear a steel shaft from continual use. If you are showing signs of
seepage now it will only get worse. Shafts can wear from contaminants in the
oil as well as dirt,dust from the area of the seal. Crankcase pressure could
force oil out as well.
Dave
> I have a slight leak on my starboard distributor shaft seal. I got a new seal
but ... since I recently epoxy a new rotor in place, I don't feel in a hurry
to remove it in order to change the seal. But I am not sure I understand how it
can wear a groove on the shaft; it is a plastic seal, right?
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http://www.cfisher.com/
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| Subject: | Re: Polytone reducer |
The manual specifically says not to use MEK as a reducer. Here is the Australian
Distributor:
AVIAQUIP PTY LIMITED
41 Kembla Street
Cheltenham Victoria 3192
PO Box 102
Mentone Victoria 3194
613-9585-1211
www.aviaquip.com.au
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Ryan Wheeler
Kitfox IV-1200
Indianapolis, IN
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| Subject: | Re: Polytone reducer |
You can use Lacquer Thinner With Polytone paint
Ellery in Maine
In a message dated 8/14/2008 1:48:09 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
gary.algate@sandvik.com writes:
Can anybody advise where I can get this reducer in Adelaide, Australia.
Alternatively can I use MEK? If so where can I buy this in Adelaide,
Australia?
This was a lot easier when I lived in Canada.
Gary
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| Subject: | Re: KitFox Fuel Starvation |
Travis,
I think my engine spent it's life in an elephant burial ground rather than
an Indian mound.
It's a nice morning now and before the temp becomes unlivable again I think
I will go fly.
Come see me and I will give you a super deluxe deal on my remaining
Aeroshell 15-50. You know I can't use it any more.
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| Subject: | Re: Polytone reducer |
I'd be real careful about using anything but the name-brand poly-
xxxxx products when using the Polyfiber system. Certainly try a small
batch and see if it works. Of course that's easy for me to say....I
can get the proper stuff shipped to me, about 250 miles away, the
next day.
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster
Jabiru 2200
Status: "Condition grounded, but determined to try." (Pink
Floyd..."Learning to Fly")
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On Aug 14, 2008, at 7:27 AM, ElleryWeld@aol.com wrote:
> You can use Lacquer Thinner With Polytone paint
>
> Ellery in Maine
>
> In a message dated 8/14/2008 1:48:09 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> gary.algate@sandvik.com writes:
>
> Can anybody advise where I can get this reducer in Adelaide,
> Australia.
>
> Alternatively can I use MEK? If so where can I buy this in
> Adelaide, Australia?
>
> This was a lot easier when I lived in Canada.
>
> Gary
>
> Gary Algate
> Classic 4 Jab2200A
> Office Phone: +61 8 8276 7655
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| Subject: | Re: Polytone reducer |
I have been using Lacquer thinner for 10 years on the poly fiber products
with Polytone paint and Aerothane paint and it is not an issue but you just
need to make sure you have real Lacquer Thinner
Ellery
In a message dated 8/14/2008 8:43:28 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
lynnmatt@jps.net writes:
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
I'd be real careful about using anything but the name-brand poly-
xxxxx products when using the Polyfiber system. Certainly try a small
batch and see if it works. Of course that's easy for me to say....I
can get the proper stuff shipped to me, about 250 miles away, the
next day.
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster
Jabiru 2200
Status: "Condition grounded, but determined to try." (Pink
Floyd..."Learning to Fly")
do not archive
On Aug 14, 2008, at 7:27 AM, ElleryWeld@aol.com wrote:
> You can use Lacquer Thinner With Polytone paint
>
> Ellery in Maine
>
> In a message dated 8/14/2008 1:48:09 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> gary.algate@sandvik.com writes:
>
> Can anybody advise where I can get this reducer in Adelaide,
> Australia.
>
> Alternatively can I use MEK? If so where can I buy this in
> Adelaide, Australia?
>
> This was a lot easier when I lived in Canada.
>
> Gary
>
> Gary Algate
> Classic 4 Jab2200A
> Office Phone: +61 8 8276 7655
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| Subject: | Re: certification question |
Tom
I think I will do the same as you did since my situation is the same, I have PPL,
a lapsed medical and an aircraft that meets the LSA rules. I will certify as
experimental AB and fly as Light Sport. All will be legal.
And, thanks to all who responded to my initial question. No need to challenge the
FAA guy now.
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Dan Mc Intyre
Kitfox Model IV, Jab 2200
N443DM
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| Subject: | Re: Tailwheel Spring |
Dick,
I got your picture. I see what you are talking about now. We are talking about
two different things; The leaf "springs" are the three pieces of steel that
link the fuselage to the tail-wheel assembly, not the connector/anti-shimmy springs
that connect to the rudder. The tabs I am going to reinforce are the ones
on the very end of the fuselage not the rudder. From the picture it actually
looks like you might have a reinforcement plate under the tabs as well (unpainted
metal between the tabs and the leaf springs).
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Kitfox IV-1200
Indianapolis, IN
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| Subject: | Re: RE: Timing gear |
It is a flexible seal, made of...I dunno, neoprene or something like
that, and it definitely wore a groove in my shaft. Pictured is the
shaft, with the 2 grooves worn in by the seal, which you can see in
the distributor bottom plate...this is the part that the cap attaches
to. To change the seal, you need to remove the two socket-head cap
screws (also known as Allen bolts over here, after a company that
made them), then remove this plate and drive out the old seal and
press/drive in the new seal, and you're done...well, except for
putting it back together.
But...if you have a worn/grooved shaft like I did, I had to use a
product called Speedi-Sleeve (pictured), which is slid over the
shaft, becoming the new surface upon which the new seal rides. The
sleeve is only .011" thick, so it only increases the diameter of the
shaft by .022" or about half of a mm. This increase in diameter not
only provides a new seal surface, but it increases the tension of the
new seal so it seals better. Mine worked right up to when I took them
off when I dismantled my engine, and I'm thinking of putting them
back on. Now as to why these seals leak, and I'm afraid yours are
going to show worn shafts too, Michel, I'm thinking they don't have a
hard enough shaft to begin with. When/if you pull your bottom plate
(s), don't be alarmed about the sloppiness of the distributor shaft
if you pull the distributor shaft support tower (I call it that)...it
won't get out of time, because the gears will still be in mesh, just
loose until the tower/support goes back on. You can't screw anything
up by taking this area apart and changing the seals, or by installing
the speedi-sleeves. You cannot get the engine out of time. But if you
decide to change the distributor shafts themselves, you will have to
remove the gear case cover, and THAT'S where you can get into trouble
with ignition timing. I can get you through this if you get that far
into it, or so can your Jab dealer friend over there.
It's surprising to me how the soft seal can wear a groove into the
shaft, but here's living proof that it did. My left (port) one is
pictured. The right side leaked worse, but the shaft was unharmed by
the seal...go figure that one out!
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster
Jabiru 2200
Status: "Condition grounded, but determined to try." (Pink
Floyd..."Learning to Fly")
On Aug 14, 2008, at 2:34 AM, Michel Verheughe wrote:
> Lynn, I am not sure the general Kitfox audience is interested in
> this but ... here I go:
>
>> From: Lynn Matteson [lynnmatt@jps.net]
>> First a distributor shaft seal wore a groove into one of the
>> shafts, causing an oil leak that saturated one of the caps, then the
>> rocker arm bushings went to hell, now the timing gear breaks, causing
>> me major engine work.
>
> I have a slight leak on my starboard distributor shaft seal. I got
> a new seal but ... since I recently epoxy a new rotor in place, I
> don't feel in a hurry to remove it in order to change the seal. But
> I am not sure I understand how it can wear a groove on the shaft;
> it is a plastic seal, right?
>
> Cheers,
> Michel Verheughe
> Norway
> Kitfox 3 - Jabiru 2200 ... grounded.
>
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| Subject: | Re: Part of the Kitfox Line for sale |
Some guys say their videos sell Kitfoxes, but I say it was my pylon
turns, and slipping into a landing recently at Oshkosh in front of
thousands of adoring fans that opened the floodgates of orders for
new aircraft at Kitfox Aircraft LLC (www.kitfoxaircraft.com) (wink,
wink)
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster
Jabiru 2200
Status: "Condition grounded, but determined to try." (Pink
Floyd..."Learning to Fly")
do not archive
On Aug 14, 2008, at 7:04 AM, dave wrote:
>
>
>> The Kitfox 7 Super Sport has been for sale for the past couple of
>> years... It is a tail dragger or tricycle gear, whichever you
>> choose with great STOL performance. I talked to a guy that visited
>> the factory in Idaho recently and he said everything was great. He
>> was so positively impressed with the John, the factory, and the
>> plane that he bought a Kitfox Super Sport kit and is now building it
>>
>> Mike
>>
>
>
> Mike , I cannot say that a Super sport is a STOL aircraft as I have
> never flown one or see and video on one. If it is a STOL aircraft
> then Mc BEan should be shooting some video to help sell his
> airplane like this guy did http://ca.youtube.com/watch?
> v=ct2fNFc8AxY
>
> I will tell you that my videos Have in fact sold many pilots on the
> Kitfox and in fact have helped sell many used Kitfoxes. Too bad
> the Model IV is not sold new anymore as I think it would be a
> stellar seller as we already know if built and flown right it is a
> stellar performer and would be close to a STOL aircraft.
>
> --------
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> Flying Videos and Kitfox Info
> http://www.cfisher.com/
> Realtime Kitfox movies to separate the internet chatter from the
> truth
> http://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=kitfoxflyer
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=198530#198530
>
>
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| Subject: | Polytone reducer |
Hi Gary
Give Aviaquip PTY a try. They are the Poly-Fiber distributor is Australia.
Brian
AVIAQUIP PTY LIMITED
41 Kembla Street
Cheltenham Victoria 3192
PO Box 102
Mentone Victoria 3194
613-9585-1211
www.aviaquip.com.au <http://www.aviaquip.com.au/>
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Sent: August 14, 2008 8:49 AM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Polytone reducer
I have been using Lacquer thinner for 10 years on the poly fiber products
with Polytone paint and Aerothane paint and it is not an issue but you just
need to make sure you have real Lacquer Thinner
Ellery
In a message dated 8/14/2008 8:43:28 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
lynnmatt@jps.net writes:
I'd be real careful about using anything but the name-brand poly-
xxxxx products when using the Polyfiber system. Certainly try a small
batch and see if it works. Of course that's easy for me to say....I
can get the proper stuff shipped to me, about 250 miles away, the
next day.
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster
Jabiru 2200
Status: "Condition grounded, but determined to try." (Pink
Floyd..."Learning to Fly")
do not archive
On Aug 14, 2008, at 7:27 AM, ElleryWeld@aol.com wrote:
> You can use Lacquer Thinner With Polytone paint
>
> Ellery in Maine
>
> In a message dated 8/14/2008 1:48:09 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> gary.algate@sandvik.com writes:
>
> Can anybody advise where I can get this reducer in Adelaide,
> Australia.
>
> Alternatively can I use MEK? If so where can I buy this in
> Adelaide, Australia?
>
> This was a lot easier when I lived in Canada.
>
> Gary
>
> Gary Algate
> Classic 4 Jab2200A
> Office Phone: +61 8 8276 7655
>
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox Support - was - Part of the Kitfox Line for |
sale
LIST,
As it has been said many times...
We continue to support ALL the Kitfox models back to the Model 1
Supporting the Model IV on up is a given and we can supply just about
everything.. and in fact are developing new items for the IV and newer
models.
The Super Sport is available in both Tail Wheel and Tri Gear. Round and
Smooth cowlings.
The Lite is a single seat ultra-light based on the 2SI engine to keep it in
the legal Ultra-light category. The 2SI is no longer available.
Fly Safe !!
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[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of dave
Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 8:30 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Part of the Kitfox Line for sale
John, Can you explain why this part of the Kitfox line is for sale ? Kitfox
Lite?
Also - will you or your partners be selling any of the other Kitfox model
lines in the future?
Also will you be making parts available for models 1 to 6 Kitfoxes? Kitfox
Lite I assume the answer is no.
Will you be offering a Super sport or another model that is a tail dragger
and with STOL performance like the Kitfox IV has given for the past man
yearS?
Thanks in advance.
Dave
--------
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox Support |
Hi Listers:=0AJust for the record and to be just, about a year ago I obtain
ed from Kitfox Aicraft a pair of wing lift struts for my ex-Kitfox II.- T
o get-both struts "re-produced", I had to send one of-the old, corroded
struts.- I'm very pleased and grateful of the support I got from John an
d Debra.=0ABest Regards!=0AJose Toro=0AKitfox II/582 (new owner just flew i
t after conversion to tri-cycle, and is very pleased)=0A=0A=0A=0A----- Orig
inal Message ----=0AFrom: jdmcbean <jdmcbean@kitfoxaircraft.com>=0ATo: kitf
ox-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 10:58:14 AM=0ASubje
ct: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Kitfox Support - was - Part of the Kitfox Line for
rcraft.com>=0A=0ALIST,=0A--- As it has been said many times...=0A=0AW
e continue to support ALL the Kitfox models back to the Model 1=0A=0ASuppor
ting the Model IV on up is a given and we can supply just about=0Aeverythin
g.. and in fact are developing new items for the IV and newer=0Amodels.=0A
=0AThe Super Sport is available in both Tail Wheel and Tri Gear. Round and
=0ASmooth cowlings.=0A=0AThe Lite is a single seat ultra-light based on the
2SI engine to keep it in=0Athe legal Ultra-light category.- The 2SI is n
o longer available. =0A=0A=0A=0AFly Safe !!=0AJohn & Debra McBean=0APh 208.
337.5111=0Awww.kitfoxaircraft.com-=0A"The Sky is not the Limit...- It's
a Playground" =0A=0A=0A-----Original Message-----=0AFrom: owner-kitfox-lis
t-server@matronics.com=0A[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On
Behalf Of dave=0ASent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 8:30 AM=0ATo: kitfox-lis
t@matronics.com=0ASubject: Kitfox-List: Re: Part of the Kitfox Line for sal
hn, Can you explain why this part of the Kitfox line is for sale ? Kitfox
=0ALite? =0A=0AAlso - will you or your partners be selling any of the other
Kitfox model=0Alines in the future? =0A=0A=0AAlso will you be making parts
available for models 1 to 6 Kitfoxes? Kitfox=0ALite I assume the answer is
no. =0A=0AWill you be offering a Super sport or another model that is a ta
il dragger=0Aand with STOL performance like the Kitfox IV has- given for
the past man=0AyearS? =0A=0A=0AThanks in advance.=0A=0A=0ADave=0A=0A-------
-=0ARotax Dealer, Ontario Canada=0AFlying Videos and Kitfox Info=0Ahttp://w
ww.cfisher.com/=0ARealtime Kitfox movies to separate- the internet- cha
tter from the truth- =0Ahttp://www.youtube.com/profile_videos?user=kitf
oxflyer=0A=0A=0A=0A=0ARead this topic online here:=0A=0Ahttp://forums.matro
nics.com/viewtopic.php?p=198376#198376=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A=0A
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| Subject: | Which Expoy Primer and Structural Epoxy Should I Use ??? |
What is the best epoxy primer to use on and inside the Aluminum wing spars on the
Kitfox ? Also does the same epoxy primer work well on 4130 Steel ?
Secondly, what is the strongest structural epoxy I can get for the Kitfox ?
Thanks,
Mike
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have !!!
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| Subject: | Re: Ethanol Myths - Facts and/or fiction? |
larry huntley wrote:
> Don't bet a lot on the placard. Some folks have found ethanol in unmarked pumps
that the attendent said had none. Larry
>
The majority of attendants spend their days selling cigaretts, beer, and snacks...
They just happen to be running the credit cards for the gas pumps also.
The attendant probably knows far less about the gas in the pumps than we do....
Why would anyone take some minimum wage attendants word if the gas has ethanol
or not ? I would not even waste my time asking, just buy the test kit.
I agree with Dave though, I would use ethanol gasoline before I would put 100LL
in my Rotax 912-S. Carb floats, seals, etc are easy to inspect and replace
if needed, a Rotax 912 clogged with lead is much worse.
Mike
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You are right, Dave, an oil leak won't repear itself as we do from e.g. the flu.
Mechanical faults only get worse with time.
Thank you for the detailed explanation, Lynn. I will replace that seal but ...
I must wait. You see, I had a operation and I still have the stiches. I am not
supposed to lift my left arm more than 90 degrees and ... as you know, there
isn't much room behind a Jabiru in a Kitfox. But I will get to it.
Incidentally, I just went flying a few touch and go, today, with my son as the
PIC. It was nice to be in the air again, even as a passenger.
Cheers,
Michel Verheughe
Norway
Kitfox 3 - Jabiru 2200 ... flying as a PAX.
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| Subject: | Re: Which Expoy Primer and Structural Epoxy Should I Use |
???
Polyfiber epoxy primer is very good. 3M 2216, or Hysol are both very good
adhesives. The wing ribs are bonded using this with cotton flox.
Jeff
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| Subject: | Re: Ethanol Myths - Facts and/or fiction? |
Mike sez:
>I agree with Dave though, I would use ethanol gasoline before I
>would put 100LL in my Rotax 912-S. Carb floats, seals, etc are
>easy to inspect and replace if needed, a Rotax 912 clogged with
>lead is much worse.
I ran my 912S exclusively on AvGas and never had any trouble. I run
AvGas in my 4-stroke motorcycle, an old pre-emissions-controls
Plymouth, and in my lawnmowers and trimmers. They run cooler, can
sit long periods without the carbs getting gunked up, and I don't
have to worry about what's in it.
Mike G.
N728KF, Kitfox IV-1200 Speedster
Phoenix, AZ
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| Subject: | Re: Polytone reducer |
Thanks Ellery
In Canada I could get this stuff, as Lynn says, within 24 hrs but here in
Australia it's a different matter.
When you say laquer - do you mean automotive Duco thinner or is this
something else?
Regards
Gary
Gary Algate
SMC, Exploration
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I have been using Lacquer thinner for 10 years on the poly fiber products
with Polytone paint and Aerothane paint and it is not an issue but you
just need to make sure you have real Lacquer Thinner
Ellery
In a message dated 8/14/2008 8:43:28 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
lynnmatt@jps.net writes:
I'd be real careful about using anything but the name-brand poly-
xxxxx products when using the Polyfiber system. Certainly try a small
batch and see if it works. Of course that's easy for me to say....I
can get the proper stuff shipped to me, about 250 miles away, the
next day.
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster
Jabiru 2200
Status: "Condition grounded, but determined to try." (Pink
Floyd..."Learning to Fly")
do not archive
On Aug 14, 2008, at 7:27 AM, ElleryWeld@aol.com wrote:
> You can use Lacquer Thinner With Polytone paint
>
> Ellery in Maine
>
> In a message dated 8/14/2008 1:48:09 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> gary.algate@sandvik.com writes:
>
> Can anybody advise where I can get this reducer in Adelaide,
> Australia.
>
> Alternatively can I use MEK? If so where can I buy this in
> Adelaide, Australia?
>
> This was a lot easier when I lived in Canada.
>
> Gary
>
> Gary Algate
> Classic 4 Jab2200A
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| Subject: | Polytone reducer |
Tried Aviaquip - but they were really unhelpful and only had it available
in 1 gall containers - I need about 1 quart tops!
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Hi Gary
Give Aviaquip PTY a try. They are the Poly-Fiber distributor is Australia.
Brian
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Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Polytone reducer
I have been using Lacquer thinner for 10 years on the poly fiber products
with Polytone paint and Aerothane paint and it is not an issue but you
just need to make sure you have real Lacquer Thinner
Ellery
In a message dated 8/14/2008 8:43:28 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
lynnmatt@jps.net writes:
I'd be real careful about using anything but the name-brand poly-
xxxxx products when using the Polyfiber system. Certainly try a small
batch and see if it works. Of course that's easy for me to say....I
can get the proper stuff shipped to me, about 250 miles away, the
next day.
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster
Jabiru 2200
Status: "Condition grounded, but determined to try." (Pink
Floyd..."Learning to Fly")
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On Aug 14, 2008, at 7:27 AM, ElleryWeld@aol.com wrote:
> You can use Lacquer Thinner With Polytone paint
>
> Ellery in Maine
>
> In a message dated 8/14/2008 1:48:09 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
> gary.algate@sandvik.com writes:
>
> Can anybody advise where I can get this reducer in Adelaide,
> Australia.
>
> Alternatively can I use MEK? If so where can I buy this in
> Adelaide, Australia?
>
> This was a lot easier when I lived in Canada.
>
> Gary
>
> Gary Algate
> Classic 4 Jab2200A
> Office Phone: +61 8 8276 7655
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| Subject: | Re: Ethanol Myths - Facts and/or fiction? |
Let me get this straight.....some of you guys are flying 912's in
airplanes, you fly into an airport, and you hope to have automobile
gas there for you? And with all the bad hype about ethanol, you'd
rather use this than 100LL????
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster
Jabiru 2200
Status: "Condition grounded, but determined to try." (Pink
Floyd..."Learning to Fly")
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On Aug 14, 2008, at 5:58 PM, Michael Gibbs wrote:
> <MichaelGibbs@cox.net>
>
> Mike sez:
>
>> I agree with Dave though, I would use ethanol gasoline before I
>> would put 100LL in my Rotax 912-S. Carb floats, seals, etc are
>> easy to inspect and replace if needed, a Rotax 912 clogged with
>> lead is much worse.
>
> I ran my 912S exclusively on AvGas and never had any trouble. I
> run AvGas in my 4-stroke motorcycle, an old pre-emissions-controls
> Plymouth, and in my lawnmowers and trimmers. They run cooler, can
> sit long periods without the carbs getting gunked up, and I don't
> have to worry about what's in it.
>
> Mike G.
> N728KF, Kitfox IV-1200 Speedster
> Phoenix, AZ
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox Support - was - Part of the Kitfox Line for sale |
John,
Can you answer the question about your partner selling the entire Kitfox Lite line
and rights. How will you support this ?
I too have bought form you and had no problems and do support you and your venture
but this question should be answered in a public forum.
Dave
--------
Rotax Dealer, Ontario Canada
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| Subject: | Re: Ethanol Myths - Facts and/or fiction? |
Lynn, you are right HYPE is the keyword on ethanol until it proven to me otherwise.
ANd I would rather not use ethanol gas but I have no choice.
912 can use AVGAS but not with synthetic oil. You will get more lead fouling
as well.
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| Subject: | Re: Ethanol Myths - Facts and/or fiction? |
Mike , how many hours on your Kitfox with 912 ?
> I ran my 912S exclusively on AvGas and never had any trouble. I run
> AvGas in my 4-stroke motorcycle, an old pre-emissions-controls
> Plymouth, and in my lawnmowers and trimmers. They run cooler, can
> sit long periods without the carbs getting gunked up, and I don't
> have to worry about what's in it.
>
> Mike G.
--------
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| Subject: | Re: Kitfox Support |
> I'm very pleased and grateful of the support I got from John and Debra.
>
> Best Regards!
>
> Jose Toro
>
I am too pleased with them, just wondering why his partner is selling out and he
not answering the question ?
Dave
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| Subject: | Re: Part of the Kitfox Line for sale |
> Some guys say their videos sell Kitfoxes, but I say it was my pylon
> turns, and slipping into a landing recently at Oshkosh in front of
> thousands of adoring fans that opened the floodgates of orders for
> new aircraft at Kitfox Aircraft LLC (www.kitfoxaircraft.com) (wink,
> wink)
>
Kitfox aircraft did this ? GREAT !!!!!!!!! LETS SEE SOME ACTION FILMAGE..............
Kitfox IV will do that plus take off in 1'/2 the distance ? unless they with over
700 lbs of course.
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| Subject: | Re: Ethanol Myths - Facts and/or fiction? |
Plus mo gas goes bad quickly. I found that curious also but wanted see
how this thing played out.
Dee Young
N345DY
Model II
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----- Original Message -----
From: Lynn Matteson<mailto:lynnmatt@jps.net>
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com<mailto:kitfox-list@matronics.com>
Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 5:32 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Ethanol Myths - Facts and/or fiction?
<lynnmatt@jps.net<mailto:lynnmatt@jps.net>>
Let me get this straight.....some of you guys are flying 912's in
airplanes, you fly into an airport, and you hope to have automobile
gas there for you? And with all the bad hype about ethanol, you'd
rather use this than 100LL????
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster
Jabiru 2200
Status: "Condition grounded, but determined to try." (Pink
Floyd..."Learning to Fly")
do not archive
On Aug 14, 2008, at 5:58 PM, Michael Gibbs wrote:
> <MichaelGibbs@cox.net<mailto:MichaelGibbs@cox.net>>
>
> Mike sez:
>
>> I agree with Dave though, I would use ethanol gasoline before I
>> would put 100LL in my Rotax 912-S. Carb floats, seals, etc are
>> easy to inspect and replace if needed, a Rotax 912 clogged with
>> lead is much worse.
>
> I ran my 912S exclusively on AvGas and never had any trouble. I
> run AvGas in my 4-stroke motorcycle, an old pre-emissions-controls
> Plymouth, and in my lawnmowers and trimmers. They run cooler, can
> sit long periods without the carbs getting gunked up, and I don't
> have to worry about what's in it.
>
> Mike G.
> N728KF, Kitfox IV-1200 Speedster
> Phoenix, AZ
>
>
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Dave asks:
>Mike, how many hours on your Kitfox with 912 ?
Sorry Dave, I don't know. The engine was sold to another Kitfox
builder about 3 years ago.
Mike G.
N728KF, Kitfox IV-1200 Speedster
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can somebody give me an explanation of what "lacquer thinners" are - I
know if I ask the guy at the auto shop here he probably won't know what I
mean and I know most of you guys in the USC will be shutting down soon .
I am assuming it is the thinners for auto paint (not enamel or Urethane)
??
Friday here so I want to get it for the weekend.
regards
Gary
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Mike, point was how many hours did you fly with avgas in your 912 Kitfox ?> ?
I have over 1000 hour in the last few year alone that we have had ethanol gas
at our pumps and have had no issues > YET < So If there is a problem I want
to know all about it.
Dave
> Sorry Dave, I don't know. The engine was sold to another Kitfox
> builder about 3 years ago.
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If you go to your local hardware or paint store you will find gallon
cans(or qts) marked" Laquer Thinner". It is a common item. Larry
----- Original Message -----
From: gary.algate@sandvik.com
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 8:39 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Lacquer thinners
can somebody give me an explanation of what "lacquer thinners" are - I
know if I ask the guy at the auto shop here he probably won't know what
I mean and I know most of you guys in the USC will be shutting down soon
.
I am assuming it is the thinners for auto paint (not enamel or
Urethane) ??
Friday here so I want to get it for the weekend.
regards
Gary
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Dave sez:
>Mike, point was how many hours did you fly with avgas in your 912 Kitfox ?
I didn't phrase my answer very well. I don't know how many hours it
operated on 100LL and since it has now been sold I can't readily find
out.
Mike G.
N728KF, Kitfox IV-1200 Speedster
Phoenix, AZ
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You can get "lacquer thinner" at most hardware stores, but like the
one poster said make sure of what it is (or something like that). I
don't know what that means except to be sure you read the label. I
figured that lacquer thinner was lacquer thinner, but maybe they are
not all created equally. Sorry I can't be more helpful, Gary. Maybe
you should just bite the bullet and get that one gallon that Aviaquip
offered. As far as my own experience is concerned, the stuff lasts
for a long time in the tightly-sealed can, so it won't go to waste.
The Polytone reducer is formulated for application in either cooler
or warmer temperatures, and comes in different part numbers depending
on the temperature of the air when it is applied.
A question: are you using the Polytone to paint your wheels pants? Is
that why you're looking for Polytone reducer? If so, that's the wrong
stuff to use on hard surfaces, I was told. I was just putting 2 and 2
together, and thought you might be painting your wheel pants...if
not, I'll keep quiet. : )
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster
Jabiru 2200
Status: "Condition grounded, but determined to try." (Pink
Floyd..."Learning to Fly")
do not archive
On Aug 14, 2008, at 8:39 PM, gary.algate@sandvik.com wrote:
>
> can somebody give me an explanation of what "lacquer thinners" are
> - I know if I ask the guy at the auto shop here he probably won't
> know what I mean and I know most of you guys in the USC will be
> shutting down soon .
>
> I am assuming it is the thinners for auto paint (not enamel or
> Urethane) ??
>
> Friday here so I want to get it for the weekend.
>
> regards
>
> Gary
>
>
> Gary Algate
> Classic 4 Jab2200A
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>
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When I use 100LL in my fox 912 I use TCP. And I use semi synthetic Valvoline
Durablend. I only use it when i do cross countries and Mo gas isn't
available. Mo gas goes stale ? Who lets it sit in their tank long enough to get
stale
??? 225 hrs since 9/15/07
Steve Bennett Classic 4 912 speedwing Durham NC USA
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MichaelGibbs@cox.net writes:
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Dave sez:
>Mike, point was how many hours did you fly with avgas in your 912 Kitfox ?
I didn't phrase my answer very well. I don't know how many hours it
operated on 100LL and since it has now been sold I can't readily find
out.
Mike G.
N728KF, Kitfox IV-1200 Speedster
Phoenix, AZ
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Larry - are you in Australia ?
Trouble here is many of these terms aren't recognized here. If I know what
sort of paints the Lacquer thinners reduce I could explain to the rep
Gary
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----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Thursday, August 14, 2008 8:39 PM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Lacquer thinners
can somebody give me an explanation of what "lacquer thinners" are - I
know if I ask the guy at the auto shop here he probably won't know what I
mean and I know most of you guys in the USC will be shutting down soon .
I am assuming it is the thinners for auto paint (not enamel or Urethane)
??
Friday here so I want to get it for the weekend.
regards
Gary
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> Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 9:28 pm Post subject: Ethanol Myths - Facts and/or
fiction?
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Dave sez:
>
> Quote:
> Mike, point was how many hours did you fly with avgas in your 912 Kitfox ?
>
>
> I didn't phrase my answer very well. I don't know how many hours it
> operated on 100LL and since it has now been sold I can't readily find
> out.
>
>
Just wondered how many hours thats YOU put on it , no care about who owns it now,
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| Subject: | Re: Lacquer thinners |
I work in the home improvement industry. (paint contractor) The Lacquer
thinner you buy at paint stores and Big box stores stinks less then the kind you
buy at automotive stores. It seems as the stuff at Auto stores or auto
refinish shops is stronger. Just my professional opinion. Steve Bennett
In a message dated 8/14/2008 9:45:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
lynnmatt@jps.net writes:
--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
You can get "lacquer thinner" at most hardware stores, but like the
one poster said make sure of what it is (or something like that). I
don't know what that means except to be sure you read the label. I
figured that lacquer thinner was lacquer thinner, but maybe they are
not all created equally. Sorry I can't be more helpful, Gary. Maybe
you should just bite the bullet and get that one gallon that Aviaquip
offered. As far as my own experience is concerned, the stuff lasts
for a long time in the tightly-sealed can, so it won't go to waste.
The Polytone reducer is formulated for application in either cooler
or warmer temperatures, and comes in different part numbers depending
on the temperature of the air when it is applied.
A question: are you using the Polytone to paint your wheels pants? Is
that why you're looking for Polytone reducer? If so, that's the wrong
stuff to use on hard surfaces, I was told. I was just putting 2 and 2
together, and thought you might be painting your wheel pants...if
not, I'll keep quiet. : )
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster
Jabiru 2200
Status: "Condition grounded, but determined to try." (Pink
Floyd..."Learning to Fly")
do not archive
On Aug 14, 2008, at 8:39 PM, gary.algate@sandvik.com wrote:
>
> can somebody give me an explanation of what "lacquer thinners" are
> - I know if I ask the guy at the auto shop here he probably won't
> know what I mean and I know most of you guys in the USC will be
> shutting down soon .
>
> I am assuming it is the thinners for auto paint (not enamel or
> Urethane) ??
>
> Friday here so I want to get it for the weekend.
>
> regards
>
> Gary
>
>
> Gary Algate
> Classic 4 Jab2200A
> Office Phone: +61 8 8276 7655
>
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| Subject: | Re: Lacquer thinners |
Lynn - you are dead right it is for the wheel pants. I have had pretty
good success in the past with polytone on Fibreglass (even though it's not
really recommended). I think the biggest problem is the bond and in the
past I have applied a light primer coat and while it's still "just" tacky
I applied the Polytone.
Best regards
Gary
By the way -no response yet from Wayne re your questions - He is
travelling at the moment but he will get back to me.
Regards
Gary
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You can get "lacquer thinner" at most hardware stores, but like the
one poster said make sure of what it is (or something like that). I
don't know what that means except to be sure you read the label. I
figured that lacquer thinner was lacquer thinner, but maybe they are
not all created equally. Sorry I can't be more helpful, Gary. Maybe
you should just bite the bullet and get that one gallon that Aviaquip
offered. As far as my own experience is concerned, the stuff lasts
for a long time in the tightly-sealed can, so it won't go to waste.
The Polytone reducer is formulated for application in either cooler
or warmer temperatures, and comes in different part numbers depending
on the temperature of the air when it is applied.
A question: are you using the Polytone to paint your wheels pants? Is
that why you're looking for Polytone reducer? If so, that's the wrong
stuff to use on hard surfaces, I was told. I was just putting 2 and 2
together, and thought you might be painting your wheel pants...if
not, I'll keep quiet. : )
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster
Jabiru 2200
Status: "Condition grounded, but determined to try." (Pink
Floyd..."Learning to Fly")
do not archive
On Aug 14, 2008, at 8:39 PM, gary.algate@sandvik.com wrote:
>
> can somebody give me an explanation of what "lacquer thinners" are
> - I know if I ask the guy at the auto shop here he probably won't
> know what I mean and I know most of you guys in the USC will be
> shutting down soon .
>
> I am assuming it is the thinners for auto paint (not enamel or
> Urethane) ??
>
> Friday here so I want to get it for the weekend.
>
> regards
>
> Gary
>
>
> Gary Algate
> Classic 4 Jab2200A
> Office Phone: +61 8 8276 7655
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Dave sez:
>Just wondered how many hours thats YOU put on it , no care about
>who owns it now,
OK, let me shorten my answer. I don't know.
Mike G.
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Phoenix, AZ
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| Subject: | 2 stroke oil - Pennzoil update |
Perhaps those folks currently flying 2 stroke Rotax engines already
know this, but I didn't .
As I have read many times before, "Pennzoil 2 Cycle Oil for Air Cooled
Engines" has been the most reccomended oil for the (water cooled) 582
Rotax. I attended a seminar by Phillip Lockwood of Lockwood Aviation on
the basics of maintaining the Rotax 582 while at AirVenture. As many of
you may know Shell Oil purchased Pennzoil and has stopped making this
preferred 2 cycle oil. Mr. Lockwood said they purchased the entire stock
of this oil from Pennzoil and can supply that oil through the end of the
year. Lockwood Aviation has worked with AeroShell engineers to test
replacement formulations by test bed running several new 582 engines for
300 hours then inspecting each engine. He said they found a oil
formulation that equals the Pennzoil peformance and that will be
available from AeroShell by early next year.
--
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Ahhh - sweet and succinct !
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>Just wondered how many hours thats YOU put on it , no care about
>who owns it now,
OK, let me shorten my answer. I don't know.
Mike G.
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| Subject: | Little Kitfox Movie |
Hi all,
I thought I would try to give back to the list with this little movie. I'm still
trying to get used to this lighter, more sensitive aircraft. This takes place
at
a local dry lake, El Mirage, here in the high desert of California. Edwards AFB
is just over some hills from it. It was already 100 degrees by the time I took
off and the lake bed is at around 3,000 ft., so the DA was over 5,000 ft.
I know when I was looking at and for a Kitfox, I really appreciated the videos
that some on this list had provided. On take off with full flaps, even on this
hot high day, was really short by Stinson and Cessna standards. I still haven't
worked out where the wheels are exactly on landing yet. Thanks for
letting me post it.
web site: http://homepage.mac.com/gaggy/iMovieTheater8.html
Regards,
Jack ( jhenryhall@mac.com)
--------
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| Subject: | Re: Little Kitfox Movie |
Nice Video Jack and from the look of that landing you know exactly where
the wheels are!
regards
Gary
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Hi all,
I thought I would try to give back to the list with this little movie. I'm
still trying to get used to this lighter, more sensitive aircraft. This
takes place at
a local dry lake, El Mirage, here in the high desert of California.
Edwards AFB is just over some hills from it. It was already 100 degrees
by the time I took off and the lake bed is at around 3,000 ft., so the DA
was over 5,000 ft.
I know when I was looking at and for a Kitfox, I really appreciated the
videos that some on this list had provided. On take off with full flaps,
even on this hot high day, was really short by Stinson and Cessna
standards. I still haven't worked out where the wheels are exactly on
landing yet. Thanks for
letting me post it.
web site: http://homepage.mac.com/gaggy/iMovieTheater8.html
Regards,
Jack ( jhenryhall@mac.com)
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J. Henry Hall
Kitfox II, 582, Tundra Tires,
rusty pilot.
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