Kitfox-List Digest Archive

Mon 03/16/09


Total Messages Posted: 39



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     1. 03:22 AM - Re: Re: Jeff Puls 1951-2009 (Lynn Matteson)
     2. 04:43 AM - Michigan private strips (fox5flyer)
     3. 05:26 AM - Re: Jeff Puls 1951-2009 (Catz631@aol.com)
     4. 05:33 AM - Re: Michigan private strips (Lynn Matteson)
     5. 05:48 AM - Kingfox tires  (Catz631@aol.com)
     6. 06:20 AM - Re: Michigan private strips (fox5flyer)
     7. 07:03 AM - Re: Optimizing speed for range, endurance and practicalities... (Noel Loveys)
     8. 07:49 AM - Re: Optimizing speed for range, endurance and practicalities... (JC Propeller Design)
     9. 07:55 AM - Lift over Drag (A H)
    10. 09:02 AM - Re: Michigan private strips (vetdrem)
    11. 09:13 AM - Re: Kingfox tires (AKFLYERBOB)
    12. 09:33 AM - Re: Michigan private strips (Marco Menezes)
    13. 09:47 AM - Re: Lift over Drag (JC Propeller Design)
    14. 10:01 AM - Re: Flaperon Damage. (815TL)
    15. 10:11 AM - Re: Re: Michigan private strips (fox5flyer)
    16. 11:50 AM - Re: Re: Michigan private strips (Lynn Matteson)
    17. 12:03 PM - Re: Michigan private strips (Lynn Matteson)
    18. 12:21 PM - GPS Panel Dock (Jim Feldmann)
    19. 12:27 PM - Re: Re: Flaperon Damage. (Lynn Matteson)
    20. 12:41 PM - Re: Flaperon Damage. (akflyer)
    21. 12:47 PM - Re: Re: Michigan private strips (Bob Brennan)
    22. 01:05 PM - Re: Re: Flaperon Damage. (Lowell Fitt)
    23. 01:16 PM - Re: Re: Flaperon Damage. (Lynn Matteson)
    24. 01:37 PM - Re: Re: Flaperon Damage. (Bob Brennan)
    25. 01:59 PM - Re: Re: Flaperon Damage. (Lynn Matteson)
    26. 02:31 PM - Re: Michigan private strips (vetdrem)
    27. 02:37 PM - Re: Flaperon Damage. (akflyer)
    28. 04:54 PM - Re: Kingfox tires  (Michael Logan)
    29. 05:15 PM - Re: Kingfox tires (vetdrem)
    30. 06:06 PM - Re: Re: Michigan private strips (Lynn Matteson)
    31. 06:08 PM - Re: Re: Flaperon Damage. (Lynn Matteson)
    32. 06:16 PM - Re: Kingfox tires (Paul Franz - Merlin GT)
    33. 06:35 PM - Re: Flaperon Damage. (Tom Jones)
    34. 07:10 PM - Re: Kingfox tires (Malcolm Brubaker)
    35. 08:21 PM - 582 Thermostat/Bungee wraps... (Andrew Matthaey)
    36. 08:59 PM - Re: 582 Thermostat/Bungee wraps... (akflyer)
    37. 09:19 PM - Re: Re: 582 Thermostat/Bungee wraps... (gary.algate@sandvik.com)
    38. 09:19 PM - Re: Re: 582 Thermostat/Bungee wraps... (Guy Buchanan)
    39. 10:18 PM - Re: 582 Thermostat/Bungee wraps... (Guy Buchanan)
 
 
 


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    Time: 03:22:29 AM PST US
    From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
    Subject: Re: RE: Jeff Puls 1951-2009
    That's why I try to fly as much as I can.....the memories were starting to catch up to the dreams. I once thought it would be nice to touch down in all the 48 states (the ones that I don't have to kiss somebody's a- - to travel to), but I'm starting to think that Michigan needs my gas money more than the other states (my rationalization for staying home?), so maybe I should try for all the airports in Michigan....something like 500 if you count all the private, non-charted ones. Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger Jabiru 2200, #2062, 610 hrs Sensenich 62x46 Electroair direct-fire ignition system Status: flying do not archive On Mar 15, 2009, at 1:45 PM, Michel Verheughe wrote: > Meanwhile, I wish I could fly as much as our friend Lynn, right now > but ... they say you're old when you have more memories than > dreams. Hell, I still have a lot of dreams, just wait and see, > mister! :-) > > Cheers, > Michel Verheughe > Norway > Kitfox 3 - Jabiru 2200 - hasn't been flying for months. > > <pre><b><font size=2 color="#000000" face="courier new,courier"> > > List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List</a> > forums.matronics.com</a> > www.matronics.com/contribution</a> > > </b></font></pre>


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    Time: 04:43:12 AM PST US
    From: "fox5flyer" <fox5flyer@idealwifi.net>
    Subject: Michigan private strips
    Lynn, if it's any help, there is a guy named Steve Zell here in Michigan who made up a directory of private airstrips in Michigan. He spent a lot of time, gas, and long distance phone calls developing it and it's available from him at the address below. From the amount of work he has into it, I doubt he did it for the money. Just tell him I sent you. zelconsult@gmail.com Deke ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynn Matteson" <lynnmatt@jps.net> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 6:21 AM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: RE: Jeff Puls 1951-2009 > > That's why I try to fly as much as I can.....the memories were starting > to catch up to the dreams. I once thought it would be nice to touch down > in all the 48 states (the ones that I don't have to kiss somebody's a- - > to travel to), but I'm starting to think that Michigan needs my gas money > more than the other states (my rationalization for staying home?), so > maybe I should try for all the airports in Michigan....something like 500 > if you count all the private, non-charted ones. > > Lynn Matteson > Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger > Jabiru 2200, #2062, 610 hrs > Sensenich 62x46 > Electroair direct-fire ignition system > Status: flying > do not archive > > > On Mar 15, 2009, at 1:45 PM, Michel Verheughe wrote: >> Meanwhile, I wish I could fly as much as our friend Lynn, right now but >> ... they say you're old when you have more memories than dreams. Hell, I >> still have a lot of dreams, just wait and see, mister! :-) >> >> Cheers, >> Michel Verheughe >> Norway >> Kitfox 3 - Jabiru 2200 - hasn't been flying for months. >> >> <pre><b><font size=2 color="#000000" face="courier new,courier"> >> >> List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List</a> >> forums.matronics.com</a> >> www.matronics.com/contribution</a> >> >> </b></font></pre> > > >


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    Time: 05:26:32 AM PST US
    From: Catz631@aol.com
    Subject: Re: Jeff Puls 1951-2009
    Well said Michael !!! Dick Maddux Pensacola,Fl **************Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood00000001)


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    Time: 05:33:09 AM PST US
    From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
    Subject: Re: Michigan private strips
    Beat you to it, Deke....:) I bought one after he came to our EAA chapter meeting telling of his work to "build" the directory. I carry it with me in the plane. I've already landed at some of the private strips listed, including yours as you know...again sometime soon, I hope. I still wanna get over to Lost Creek...that sounds like a fun place to go to, but it'll have to be after the ground stabilizes. Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger Jabiru 2200, #2062, 610 hrs Sensenich 62x46 Electroair direct-fire ignition system Status: flying do not archive On Mar 16, 2009, at 7:42 AM, fox5flyer wrote: > <fox5flyer@idealwifi.net> > > Lynn, if it's any help, there is a guy named Steve Zell here in > Michigan who made up a directory of private airstrips in Michigan. > He spent a lot of time, gas, and long distance phone calls > developing it and it's available from him at the address below. > From the amount of work he has into it, I doubt he did it for the > money. Just tell him I sent you. > zelconsult@gmail.com > > Deke > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynn Matteson" <lynnmatt@jps.net> > To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com> > Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 6:21 AM > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: RE: Jeff Puls 1951-2009 > > >> >> That's why I try to fly as much as I can.....the memories were >> starting to catch up to the dreams. I once thought it would be >> nice to touch down in all the 48 states (the ones that I don't >> have to kiss somebody's a- - to travel to), but I'm starting to >> think that Michigan needs my gas money more than the other states >> (my rationalization for staying home?), so maybe I should try for >> all the airports in Michigan....something like 500 if you count >> all the private, non-charted ones. >> >> Lynn Matteson >> Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger >> Jabiru 2200, #2062, 610 hrs >> Sensenich 62x46 >> Electroair direct-fire ignition system >> Status: flying >> do not archive >> >> >> >> On Mar 15, 2009, at 1:45 PM, Michel Verheughe wrote: >>> Meanwhile, I wish I could fly as much as our friend Lynn, right >>> now but ... they say you're old when you have more memories >>> than dreams. Hell, I still have a lot of dreams, just wait and >>> see, mister! :-) >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Michel Verheughe >>> Norway >>> Kitfox 3 - Jabiru 2200 - hasn't been flying for months. >>> >>> <pre><b><font size=2 color="#000000" face="courier new,courier"> >>> >>> List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List</a> >>> forums.matronics.com</a> >>> www.matronics.com/contribution</a> >>> >>> </b></font></pre> >> >> >> >> > >


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    Time: 05:48:15 AM PST US
    From: Catz631@aol.com
    Subject: Kingfox tires
    Went on the Tires Unlimited website and checked for Nanking smooth tires like I am running on my 4. They don't list them anymore and after calling he confirmed they don't have them. Anyone know who might have them? Or a similar tire. I like them and was looking for a spare. Dick Maddux Fox 4 Pensacola,Fl **************Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less. (http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood00000001)


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    Time: 06:20:10 AM PST US
    From: "fox5flyer" <fox5flyer@idealwifi.net>
    Subject: Re: Michigan private strips
    Lost Creek at Luzerne is probably fine as it's sandy, high and dry. Give me some notice before you come up and I'll ensure the restaurant is open. Mio is also a good one with the eatery right at the airport. Deke do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynn Matteson" <lynnmatt@jps.net> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 8:32 AM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Michigan private strips > > Beat you to it, Deke....:) I bought one after he came to our EAA chapter > meeting telling of his work to "build" the directory. I carry it with me > in the plane. I've already landed at some of the private strips listed, > including yours as you know...again sometime soon, I hope. I still wanna > get over to Lost Creek...that sounds like a fun place to go to, but it'll > have to be after the ground stabilizes. > > Lynn Matteson > Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger > Jabiru 2200, #2062, 610 hrs > Sensenich 62x46 > Electroair direct-fire ignition system > Status: flying > do not archive > > > On Mar 16, 2009, at 7:42 AM, fox5flyer wrote: > >> >> Lynn, if it's any help, there is a guy named Steve Zell here in Michigan >> who made up a directory of private airstrips in Michigan. He spent a >> lot of time, gas, and long distance phone calls developing it and it's >> available from him at the address below. From the amount of work he >> has into it, I doubt he did it for the money. Just tell him I sent >> you. >> zelconsult@gmail.com >> >> Deke >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynn Matteson" <lynnmatt@jps.net> >> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com> >> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 6:21 AM >> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: RE: Jeff Puls 1951-2009 >> >> >>> >>> That's why I try to fly as much as I can.....the memories were >>> starting to catch up to the dreams. I once thought it would be nice to >>> touch down in all the 48 states (the ones that I don't have to kiss >>> somebody's a- - to travel to), but I'm starting to think that Michigan >>> needs my gas money more than the other states (my rationalization for >>> staying home?), so maybe I should try for all the airports in >>> Michigan....something like 500 if you count all the private, >>> non-charted ones. >>> >>> Lynn Matteson >>> Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger >>> Jabiru 2200, #2062, 610 hrs >>> Sensenich 62x46 >>> Electroair direct-fire ignition system >>> Status: flying >>> do not archive >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mar 15, 2009, at 1:45 PM, Michel Verheughe wrote: >>>> Meanwhile, I wish I could fly as much as our friend Lynn, right now >>>> but ... they say you're old when you have more memories than dreams. >>>> Hell, I still have a lot of dreams, just wait and see, mister! :-) >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Michel Verheughe >>>> Norway >>>> Kitfox 3 - Jabiru 2200 - hasn't been flying for months. >>>> >>>> <pre><b><font size=2 color="#000000" face="courier new,courier"> >>>> >>>> List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List</a> >>>> forums.matronics.com</a> >>>> www.matronics.com/contribution</a> >>>> >>>> </b></font></pre> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > > >


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    Time: 07:03:13 AM PST US
    From: "Noel Loveys" <noelloveys@yahoo.ca>
    Subject: Optimizing speed for range, endurance and practicalities...
    The way I was told to find the best range was a practical one: First set up as straight and level cruise. Then reduce the rpm by 100 ( direct drive ) and note the corresponding drop in indicated airspeed. Continue with this until the drop in indicated airspeed takes a bit of a jump then increase your rpm by 100. Greatest endurance was also easy just keep reducing the throttle until you cannot maintain altitude then increase again 100 rpm. Slowest possible speed was found by attaining the greatest endurance then lifting the nose and applying power to maintain altitude. Continuing doing this until you either feel a stall coming on or are at full throttle. This manoeuvre should only be attempted at altitude. It is sometimes fun to see the ground going the wrong way if you are pointed into a nice stiff wind. Noel Loveys AME Intern, RPP Kitfox III-A, 912 almost ready to go. Ivo IFA, Aerocet 1100 floats -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paul Franz - Merlin GT Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 2:03 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: Optimizing speed for range, endurance and practicalities... <paul@eucleides.com> On Sun, March 15, 2009 12:47 am, JC Propeller Design wrote: > "JC Propeller Design - Jan Carlsson" <propellerdesign@tele2.se> > > In general, all airplane, speed for minimum fuel flow isn't the same as the > speed for best range, and non of those speeds is speed stable, you need as > you say be 5 mph or so higher. > There is a speed called Carson (not Carlson) speed, that is best > distance/fuel/time speed, about 1,3 times higher then the best range speed. As near as I can tell, "Carson Speed" is something invented by one of the authors of an excellent article in the September 1993 Sport Aviation. A month later this article came out. <http://www.eaa1000.av.org/technicl/perfspds/perfspds.htm> "Fortunately, the author cited the AIAA paper where Carson developed this concept (AIAA-80-1847)" It will tell you how to determine Optimum Cruising Speed (Carson's Speed). > on a drag curve this is the speed where a line drawn from origo touch the > curve. Shown here in Fig 1 <http://www.eaa1000.av.org/technicl/perfspds/perfspds.htm#Figure_1> Here's a good read - two page article from Flying Magazine that makes reference to Carson and the Carson Score. <http://www.flyingmag.com/technicalities/755/the-very-best-speed-to-fly.html > -- Paul A. Franz Registration/Aircraft - N14UW/Merlin GT Engine/Prop - Rotax 914/NSI CAP Bellevue WA 425.241.1618 Cell No matter what Al Gore may say, >From this there's no running away ... If things don't get better You'll need a warm sweater; For now, have a nice sunny day! Oh shit, that Al Gore's got some clout. That nasty old man had to shout We're all gonna die And the reason why? Our own precious sun's going out! Don't care if it worries Al Gore, I ain't gonna worry no more, 'Cause the Dems have agreed To cater our need And let us go drilling offshore. "Politics are not the high class, marvelous thing that lots of you picture. Our whole government workings are crammed with 'baloney.'" -- humorist Will Rogers (1879-1935)


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    Time: 07:49:46 AM PST US
    From: "JC Propeller Design" <propellerdesign@tele2.se>
    Subject: Re: Optimizing speed for range, endurance and practicalities...
    For those that want to test, you can fly, say at your normal cruising alt. testing as stated below, every 100 rpm, or 2 or 300 on a geared engine, flying in all 4 directions reading the GPS and IAS, fuel flow (for those with that feature) and RPM. put this info in a table and why not in excel, make diagram over fuelflow / TAS and you get the miles per gallon ... Jan Ps you also get a calibration of air speed indicator if you have OAT meter to get your density alt. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Noel Loveys" <noelloveys@yahoo.ca> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 5:30 PM Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Optimizing speed for range, endurance and practicalities... > > The way I was told to find the best range was a practical one: First set > up > as straight and level cruise. Then reduce the rpm by 100 ( direct drive ) > and note the corresponding drop in indicated airspeed. Continue with this > until the drop in indicated airspeed takes a bit of a jump then increase > your rpm by 100. > > Greatest endurance was also easy just keep reducing the throttle until you > cannot maintain altitude then increase again 100 rpm. > > Slowest possible speed was found by attaining the greatest endurance then > lifting the nose and applying power to maintain altitude. Continuing > doing > this until you either feel a stall coming on or are at full throttle. > This > manoeuvre should only be attempted at altitude. It is sometimes fun to > see > the ground going the wrong way if you are pointed into a nice stiff wind. > > > Noel Loveys > AME Intern, RPP > Kitfox III-A, 912 almost ready to go. > Ivo IFA, Aerocet 1100 floats > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Paul Franz - > Merlin GT > Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 2:03 PM > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Kitfox-List: Optimizing speed for range, endurance and > practicalities... > > <paul@eucleides.com> > > On Sun, March 15, 2009 12:47 am, JC Propeller Design wrote: >> "JC Propeller Design - Jan Carlsson" <propellerdesign@tele2.se> >> >> In general, all airplane, speed for minimum fuel flow isn't the same as > the >> speed for best range, and non of those speeds is speed stable, you need >> as >> you say be 5 mph or so higher. >> There is a speed called Carson (not Carlson) speed, that is best >> distance/fuel/time speed, about 1,3 times higher then the best range > speed. > > As near as I can tell, "Carson Speed" is something invented by one of the > authors of > an excellent article in the September 1993 Sport Aviation. > > A month later this article came out. > <http://www.eaa1000.av.org/technicl/perfspds/perfspds.htm> > "Fortunately, the author cited the AIAA paper where Carson developed this > concept > (AIAA-80-1847)" > > It will tell you how to determine Optimum Cruising Speed (Carson's Speed). > >> on a drag curve this is the speed where a line drawn from origo touch the >> curve. > > Shown here in Fig 1 > <http://www.eaa1000.av.org/technicl/perfspds/perfspds.htm#Figure_1> > > Here's a good read - two page article from Flying Magazine that makes > reference to > Carson and the Carson Score. > > <http://www.flyingmag.com/technicalities/755/the-very-best-speed-to-fly.html >> > -- > Paul A. Franz > Registration/Aircraft - N14UW/Merlin GT > Engine/Prop - Rotax 914/NSI CAP > Bellevue WA > 425.241.1618 Cell > > No matter what Al Gore may say, >>From this there's no running away ... > If things don't get better > You'll need a warm sweater; > For now, have a nice sunny day! > > Oh shit, that Al Gore's got some clout. > That nasty old man had to shout > We're all gonna die > And the reason why? > Our own precious sun's going out! > > Don't care if it worries Al Gore, > I ain't gonna worry no more, > 'Cause the Dems have agreed > To cater our need > And let us go drilling offshore. > > "Politics are not the high class, marvelous thing that lots of you > picture. Our whole government workings are crammed with 'baloney.'" > > -- humorist Will Rogers (1879-1935) > > > __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus > signature database 3938 (20090316) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. > > >


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    Time: 07:55:00 AM PST US
    From: A H <lowandslow1@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Lift over Drag
    I'll apologize first for not having done a search first on this topic. But reading the fuel flow topic has me thinking about L/D=2C lift over drag. Which translates into best range/fuel economy=2C best climb rate and best g lide. Each of our aircraft will be slightly different=2C as drag factors(s treamlining)=2C wing length and weight will influence final numbers and its associated angle of attack=2C but there should be some similar numbers for each model (KF2=2C 3=2C 4=2C 5 etc). I am curious what those airspeed num bers are for those of you with different models. Most of the time we are t rying to get somewhere...quicker. But on rare occasion it may be necessary to get every mile possible from each drop of fuel. Andy _________________________________________________________________ Windows Live=99: Life without walls. http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_allup_1a_explore_032009


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    Time: 09:02:48 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Michigan private strips
    From: "vetdrem" <vetdrem@hotmail.com>
    Lost Creek has the best "bar burger" that I've had. I thought that they were closed, but it would be great if they are still in business. Mio is where I bought my Kitfox. A friend of mine has a T-craft like mine at MIO and told me about the Kitfox. It is a nice place to stop to grab some chow. I am always impressed with their breakfasts. A group of us fly over there from Houghton Lake for breakfast a couple times a year. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=234843#234843


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    Time: 09:13:15 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Kingfox tires
    From: "AKFLYERBOB" <r.wolfejr@worldnet.att.net>
    tireco.com site says Nanking products available in north America It also shows 21-12-8 slick tires as available Bob -------- Bob Wolfe..Soldotna, Alaska KF Mod I and III Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=234849#234849


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    Time: 09:33:03 AM PST US
    From: Marco Menezes <msm_9949@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Michigan private strips
    Lynn, - Let me know when you're going, stop in Evart (9C8) and we'll fly formation to either of those destinations. You'll have to dog it tho so's I can keep up. :-) - Marco Menezes N99KX Nodel 2 592-90 C-Box 3:1 w/clutch --- On Mon, 3/16/09, fox5flyer <fox5flyer@idealwifi.net> wrote: From: fox5flyer <fox5flyer@idealwifi.net> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Michigan private strips <fox5flyer@idealwifi.net> Lost Creek at Luzerne is probably fine as it's sandy, high and dry. Give me some notice before you come up and I'll ensure the restaurant is open. Mio is also a good one with the eatery right at the airport. Deke do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynn Matteson" <lynnmatt@jps.net> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 8:32 AM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Michigan private strips <lynnmatt@jps.net> > > Beat you to it, Deke....:) I bought one after he came to our EAA chapte r meeting telling of his work to "build" the directory. I carry it with me in the plane. I've already landed at some of the private strips listed, including yours as you know...again sometime soon, I hope. I still wanna g et over to Lost Creek...that sounds like a fun place to go to, but it'll have to be after the ground stabilizes. > > Lynn Matteson > Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger > Jabiru 2200, #2062, 610 hrs > Sensenich 62x46 > Electroair direct-fire ignition system > Status: flying > do not archive > > > > On Mar 16, 2009, at 7:42 AM, fox5flyer wrote: > <fox5flyer@idealwifi.net> >> >> Lynn, if it's any help, there is a guy named Steve Zell here in Michigan who made up a directory of private airstrips in Michigan. He spe nt a lot of time, gas, and long distance phone calls developing it and it's available from him at the address below. From the amount of work he has into it, I doubt he did it for the money. Just tell him I sent you. >> zelconsult@gmail.com >> >> Deke >> >> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynn Matteson" <lynnmatt@jps.net> >> To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com> >> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 6:21 AM >> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: RE: Jeff Puls 1951-2009 >> >> <lynnmatt@jps.net> >>> >>> That's why I try to fly as much as I can.....the memories were starting to catch up to the dreams. I once thought it would be nice to to uch down in all the 48 states (the ones that I don't have to kiss somebody's a- - to travel to), but I'm starting to think that Michigan needs my gas money more than the other states (my rationalization for sta ying home?), so maybe I should try for all the airports in Michigan....somethi ng like 500 if you count all the private, non-charted ones. >>> >>> Lynn Matteson >>> Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger >>> Jabiru 2200, #2062, 610 hrs >>> Sensenich 62x46 >>> Electroair direct-fire ignition system >>> Status: flying >>> do not archive >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mar 15, 2009, at 1:45 PM, Michel Verheughe wrote: >>>> Meanwhile, I wish I could fly as much as our friend Lynn, right now but ... they say you're old when you have more memories than dreams. Hell, I still have a lot of dreams, just wait and see, mister! :- ) >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Michel Verheughe >>>> Norway >>>> Kitfox 3 - Jabiru 2200 - hasn't been flying for months. >>>> >>>> <pre><b><font size=2 color="#000000" face="courier new,courier"> >>>> >>>> List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List</a> >>>> forums.matronics.com</a> >>>> www.matronics.com/contribution</a> >>>> >>>> </b></font></pre> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > =0A=0A=0A


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    Time: 09:47:17 AM PST US
    From: "JC Propeller Design" <propellerdesign@tele2.se>
    Subject: Re: Lift over Drag
    Speed for best L/D is slightly lower then speed for best range, due to propeller efficiency and specific fuel consumption is little better with higher speed. Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: A H To: kitfox-list@matronics.com Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 3:54 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: Lift over Drag I'll apologize first for not having done a search first on this topic. But reading the fuel flow topic has me thinking about L/D, lift over drag. Which translates into best range/fuel economy, best climb rate and best glide. Each of our aircraft will be slightly different, as drag factors(streamlining), wing length and weight will influence final numbers and its associated angle of attack, but there should be some similar numbers for each model (KF2, 3, 4, 5 etc). I am curious what those airspeed numbers are for those of you with different models. Most of the time we are trying to get somewhere...quicker. But on rare occasion it may be necessary to get every mile possible from each drop of fuel. Andy ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- Windows Live=99: Keep your life in sync. Check it out. __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 3938 (20090316) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.


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    Time: 10:01:56 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Flaperon Damage.
    From: "815TL" <lawrenceaw@corning.com>
    OK, Here are some pictures. They say more that I could ever say in a post. :) The last picure is just of the plane, with the new stripe I put on. Just vynal tape, but it looks good I think. Andrew Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=234859#234859 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/pict0014_620.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/pict0011_401.jpg http://forums.matronics.com//files/pict0012_162.jpg


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    Time: 10:11:30 AM PST US
    From: "fox5flyer" <fox5flyer@idealwifi.net>
    Subject: Re: Michigan private strips
    Just a side note of not much importance, the Lost Creek Lodge is also where the Duval brothers used to hang out with their low life cronies. For those of you who don't know who they are, they're the guys who killed a couple of Detroit area hunters and supposedly fed them to the pigs, but that part wasn't proven. It was a cold case file that was finally solved 18 years later. The place used to be called Linkers. Lost Creek is notorious for having great food too, especially their omelets. If they aren't open, Mio airport is only about 5 minutes away and their restaurant is always open. Deke do not archive ----- Original Message ----- From: "vetdrem" <vetdrem@hotmail.com> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 12:02 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Michigan private strips > > Lost Creek has the best "bar burger" that I've had. I thought that they > were closed, but it would be great if they are still in business. > > Mio is where I bought my Kitfox. A friend of mine has a T-craft like mine > at MIO and told me about the Kitfox. It is a nice place to stop to grab > some chow. I am always impressed with their breakfasts. A group of us > fly over there from Houghton Lake for breakfast a couple times a year. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=234843#234843 > > >


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    Time: 11:50:32 AM PST US
    From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
    Subject: Re: Michigan private strips
    Suppose that's where they get the flavor for those "bar burgers"? hmmmm? Can Hannibal Lecter be very far away? Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger Jabiru 2200, #2062, 614 hrs Sensenich 62x46 Electroair direct-fire ignition system Status: flying do not archive On Mar 16, 2009, at 1:09 PM, fox5flyer wrote: > <fox5flyer@idealwifi.net> > > Just a side note of not much importance, the Lost Creek Lodge is > also where the Duval brothers used to hang out with their low life > cronies. For those of you who don't know who they are, they're the > guys who killed a couple of Detroit area hunters and supposedly fed > them to the pigs, but that part wasn't proven. It was a cold case > file that was finally solved 18 years later. The place used to be > called Linkers. > Lost Creek is notorious for having great food too, especially their > omelets. If they aren't open, Mio airport is only about 5 minutes > away and their restaurant is always open. > Deke > do not archive > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "vetdrem" <vetdrem@hotmail.com> > To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com> > Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 12:02 PM > Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Michigan private strips > > >> >> Lost Creek has the best "bar burger" that I've had. I thought >> that they were closed, but it would be great if they are still in >> business. >> >> Mio is where I bought my Kitfox. A friend of mine has a T-craft >> like mine at MIO and told me about the Kitfox. It is a nice place >> to stop to grab some chow. I am always impressed with their >> breakfasts. A group of us fly over there from Houghton Lake for >> breakfast a couple times a year. >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=234843#234843 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >


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    Time: 12:03:58 PM PST US
    From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
    Subject: Re: Michigan private strips
    Sounds like a plan, Marco. And with this Northstar F210, doggin' it is becoming fun, lookin' at the fuel usage numbers fall. Looks like about 80 statute miles from Evart to Lost Creek, eh? Maybe we could talk Pete Smith...he's at Home Acres (Y91), just north of you.... and his Peitenpol (sp?) into going along. he's the guy who told me he flies to Oshkosh over the water at 50- 100 feet AGL, because flying higher than that just "prolongs the agony" (if he has an engine out)...he's a fun guy! You remember him...he was parked to my left in 2007 at Oshkosh. Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger Jabiru 2200, #2062, 614 hrs Sensenich 62x46 Electroair direct-fire ignition system Status: flying do not archive On Mar 16, 2009, at 12:27 PM, Marco Menezes wrote: > Lynn, > > Let me know when you're going, stop in Evart (9C8) and we'll fly > formation to either of those destinations. You'll have to dog it > tho so's I can keep up. :-) > > Marco Menezes N99KX > Nodel 2 592-90 C-Box 3:1 w/clutch > > --- On Mon, 3/16/09, fox5flyer <fox5flyer@idealwifi.net> wrote: > From: fox5flyer <fox5flyer@idealwifi.net> > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Michigan private strips > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Date: Monday, March 16, 2009, 9:19 AM > > <fox5flyer@idealwifi.net> Lost Creek at Luzerne is probably fine as > it's sandy, high and dry. Give me some notice before you come up > and I'll ensure the restaurant is open. Mio is also a good one with > the eatery right at the airport. Deke do not archive ----- Original > Message ----- From: "Lynn Matteson" <lynnmatt@jps.net> To: <kitfox- > list@matronics.com> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 8:32 AM Subject: > Re: Kitfox-List: Michigan private strips > --> Kitfox-List message > posted by: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net> > > Beat you to it, > Deke....:) I bought one after he came to our EAA chapter meeting > telling of his work to "build" the directory. I carry it with me in > the plane. I've already landed at some of the private strips > listed, including yours as you know...again sometime soon, I hope. > I still wanna get over to Lost Creek...that sounds like a fun place > to go to, but it'll have to be after the ground stabilizes. > > > Lynn Matteson > Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger > Jabiru 2200, > #2062, 610 hrs > Sensenich 62x46 > Electroair direct-fire ignition > system > Status: flying > do not archive > > > > On Mar 16, 2009, > at 7:42 AM, fox5flyer wrote: > >> --> Kitfox-List message posted > by: "fox5flyer" <fox5flyer@idealwifi.net> >> >> Lynn, if it's any > help, there is a guy named Steve Zell here in Michigan who made up > a directory of private airstrips in Michigan. He spent a lot of > time, gas, and long distance phone calls developing it and it's > available from him at the address below. From the amount of work he > has into it, I doubt he did it for the money. Just tell him I sent > you. >> zelconsult@gmail.com >> >> Deke >> >> ----- Original > Message ----- From: "Lynn Matteson" <lynnmatt@jps.net> >> To: > <kitfox-list@matronics.com> >> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 6:21 AM > >> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: RE: Jeff Puls 1951-2009 >> >> >>> --> > >>> That's why I try to fly as much as I can.....the memories were > starting to catch up to the dreams. I once thought it would be nice > to touch down in all the 48 states (the ones that I don't have to > kiss somebody's a- - to travel to), but I'm starting to think that > Michigan needs my gas money more than the other states (my > rationalization for staying home?), so maybe I should try for all > the airports in Michigan....something like 500 if you count all the > private, non-charted ones. >>> >>> Lynn Matteson >>> Kitfox IV > Speedster, taildragger >>> Jabiru 2200, #2062, 610 hrs >>> > Sensenich 62x46 >>> Electroair direct-fire ignition system >>> > Status: flying >>> do not archive >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mar 15, 2009, > at 1:45 PM, Michel Verheughe wrote: >>>> Meanwhile, I wish I could > fly as much as our friend Lynn, right now but ... they say you're > old when you have more memories than dreams. Hell, I still have a > lot of dreams, just wait and see, mister! :-) >>>> >>>> Cheers, > >>>> Michel Verheughe >>>> Norway >>>> Kitfox 3 - Jabiru 2200 - > hasn't been flying for months. >>>> >>>> <pre><b><font size=2 > color="#000000" face="courier new,courier"> >>>> >>>> List">http:// > www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List</a> >>>> > forums.matronics.com</a> >>>> www.matronics.com/contribution</a> > >>>> >>>> </b></font></pre> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > www.matronics.com/contribution _- > ===========================================================


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    Time: 12:21:15 PM PST US
    Subject: GPS Panel Dock
    From: "Jim Feldmann" <feldesign@earthlink.net>
    I am changing to a different GPS and I have an Airgizmos Garman GPS panel dock available for sale. It is used to mount a Garmin GPSMap 196, 296, 396, 495 or 496 handheld GPS unit in the dash panel. The GPS unit itself remains removable for portable use or security. Check it out at www.airgizmos.com This panel dock sells for $99.95. This one is in perfect condition and I will let it go for $50 plus postage. Please email me if interested. -------- Jim Feldmann, 3rd owner 1994 Kitfox IV Speedster / 912 Flying with a CFI Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=234876#234876


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    Time: 12:27:03 PM PST US
    From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
    Subject: Re: Flaperon Damage.
    Hi Andrew- Here's what the later Kitfox (these are model IV) flaperons look like in that area. Maybe you could have your repairman/yourself build a similar "end rib" like this and pop rivet it into the end of the flaperon. It would require removing some of the existing pop rivets, and taking the bearing horn off temporarily, but that's no big deal. Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger Jabiru 2200, #2062, 614 hrs Sensenich 62x46 Electroair direct-fire ignition system Status: flying On Mar 16, 2009, at 1:00 PM, 815TL wrote: > > OK, Here are some pictures. They say more that I could ever say in > a post. :) > > The last picure is just of the plane, with the new stripe I put > on. Just vynal tape, but it looks good I think. > > Andrew > >


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    Time: 12:41:37 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Flaperon Damage.
    From: "akflyer" <akflyer_2000@yahoo.com>
    little 5 minute epoxy on the foam and a quick aluminum patch (like you had described) and your back in the air in under an hour. You can mix epoxy with micro balloons to make a nice fillet and you would never know on the end cap. -------- DO NOT ARCHIVE Leonard Perry aka SNAKE Soldotna AK Avid &quot;C&quot; / Mk IV 582 IVO IFA Full Lotus 1260 #1 snake oil salesman since 1-22-2009 hander outer of humorless darwin awards Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=234881#234881


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    Time: 12:47:58 PM PST US
    From: "Bob Brennan" <matronics@bob.brennan.name>
    Subject: Re: Michigan private strips
    Check if the bar burgers are server with fava beans and a nice chianti... Personally it brought to mind the slogan "It takes all kinds of critters to make Farmer Vincent's fritters" (ibid Motel Hell, nowhere near Lost Creek of course...) definitely do not archive :-S -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lynn Matteson Sent: 16 March 2009 2:50 pm Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Michigan private strips Suppose that's where they get the flavor for those "bar burgers"? hmmmm? Can Hannibal Lecter be very far away? Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger Jabiru 2200, #2062, 614 hrs Sensenich 62x46 Electroair direct-fire ignition system Status: flying do not archive On Mar 16, 2009, at 1:09 PM, fox5flyer wrote: > <fox5flyer@idealwifi.net> > > Just a side note of not much importance, the Lost Creek Lodge is > also where the Duval brothers used to hang out with their low life > cronies. For those of you who don't know who they are, they're the > guys who killed a couple of Detroit area hunters and supposedly fed > them to the pigs, but that part wasn't proven. It was a cold case > file that was finally solved 18 years later. The place used to be > called Linkers. > Lost Creek is notorious for having great food too, especially their > omelets. If they aren't open, Mio airport is only about 5 minutes > away and their restaurant is always open. > Deke > do not archive > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "vetdrem" <vetdrem@hotmail.com> > To: <kitfox-list@matronics.com> > Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 12:02 PM > Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Michigan private strips > > >> >> Lost Creek has the best "bar burger" that I've had. I thought >> that they were closed, but it would be great if they are still in >> business. >> >> Mio is where I bought my Kitfox. A friend of mine has a T-craft >> like mine at MIO and told me about the Kitfox. It is a nice place >> to stop to grab some chow. I am always impressed with their >> breakfasts. A group of us fly over there from Houghton Lake for >> breakfast a couple times a year. >> >> >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=234843#234843 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >


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    Time: 01:05:30 PM PST US
    From: "Lowell Fitt" <lcfitt@sbcglobal.net>
    Subject: Re: Flaperon Damage.
    Andrew, Now that I have seen the pictures, your discription was pretty good. This is what I would do: I would remove all the foam and "Micro". (Micro is Lancairs name for epoxy mixed with microballoons to form a very light weight "Bondo" like filler. Drill out the rivet and scuff sand the surface of the flaperon. Then fabricate the aluminum doubler and using a structural adhesive between the doubler and the flaperon Skin, rivet it in place using several 3/32 rivets around the periphery. Then re-rivet the doubler / skin to the spar. Essentially, I think that is what your A&P wants to do. When that is done, to close the end, bond some new foam into the inboard end with epoxy and micro it to shape. - again Lancair vernacular. Lowell ----- Original Message ----- From: "815TL" <lawrenceaw@corning.com> Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 9:00 AM Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Flaperon Damage. > > OK, Here are some pictures. They say more that I could ever say in a > post. :) > > The last picure is just of the plane, with the new stripe I put on. Just > vynal tape, but it looks good I think. > > Andrew > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=234859#234859 > > > Attachments: > > http://forums.matronics.com//files/pict0014_620.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/pict0011_401.jpg > http://forums.matronics.com//files/pict0012_162.jpg > > >


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    Time: 01:16:28 PM PST US
    From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
    Subject: Re: Flaperon Damage.
    Speaking of flaperon damage, I was putting my plane away last week, and got "just a bit outside" the 40-foot opening with my 29-foot plane...DUH!...and the ragged edge of the bi-fold hangar door sliced into the trailing edge of the flaperon, in the area between the two outer bearings. I'm going to have to repair that metal damage, which is about 1- 1/2" into the flap going forward of the trailing edge. I'm thinking this is a perfect opportunity to rig up a trim tab onto the flaperon to overcome the need to hold a little right aileron in order to fly with wings level. The trim tab could become the repair patch on, say, the top of the flaperon, and another patch could be added on the bottom, or vise versa. Any thoughts...comments? (besides being a dumb s- - -, that is...I already got that covered) : ) Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger Jabiru 2200, #2062, 614 hrs Sensenich 62x46 Electroair direct-fire ignition system Status: flying


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    Time: 01:37:44 PM PST US
    From: "Bob Brennan" <matronics@bob.brennan.name>
    Subject: Re: Flaperon Damage.
    Comments - yes, wouldn't you correct a "heavy wing" problem with a wash adjustment? Certainly not a flaperon trim tab, one dumb-A to another. I also have that problem but learned how to fix it in Repairman's school (wash-in the heavy wing or wash-out the light wing), and it's on my just-do-it list right after installing the engine monitoring system. Bob Brennan - N717GB ELSA Repairman, inspection rated 1991 UK Model 2 ELSA Kitfox taildragger Rotax 582 with 3 blade prop Wrightsville Pa -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lynn Matteson Sent: 16 March 2009 4:16 pm Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Flaperon Damage. Speaking of flaperon damage, I was putting my plane away last week, and got "just a bit outside" the 40-foot opening with my 29-foot plane...DUH!...and the ragged edge of the bi-fold hangar door sliced into the trailing edge of the flaperon, in the area between the two outer bearings. I'm going to have to repair that metal damage, which is about 1- 1/2" into the flap going forward of the trailing edge. I'm thinking this is a perfect opportunity to rig up a trim tab onto the flaperon to overcome the need to hold a little right aileron in order to fly with wings level. The trim tab could become the repair patch on, say, the top of the flaperon, and another patch could be added on the bottom, or vise versa. Any thoughts...comments? (besides being a dumb s- - -, that is...I already got that covered) : ) Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger Jabiru 2200, #2062, 614 hrs Sensenich 62x46 Electroair direct-fire ignition system Status: flying


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    Time: 01:59:08 PM PST US
    From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
    Subject: Re: Flaperon Damage.
    Oops, forgot all about that trick, Bob. The heavy wing thing seems to have just started recently, and I'm going to give it a chance to prove to me that it's something that isn't just a fluke before I tackle it. Thanks for the suggestion, Bob...and for recognition of my status as a dumb-A....I always knew I'd fit in somewhere! It's 60 degrees F, clear and sunny...I'm goin' flying. Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger Jabiru 2200, #2062, 614 hrs Sensenich 62x46 Electroair direct-fire ignition system Status: flying On Mar 16, 2009, at 4:28 PM, Bob Brennan wrote: > <matronics@bob.brennan.name> > > Comments - yes, wouldn't you correct a "heavy wing" problem with a > wash > adjustment? Certainly not a flaperon trim tab, one dumb-A to > another. I also > have that problem but learned how to fix it in Repairman's school > (wash-in > the heavy wing or wash-out the light wing), and it's on my just-do- > it list > right after installing the engine monitoring system. > > Bob Brennan - N717GB > ELSA Repairman, inspection rated > 1991 UK Model 2 ELSA Kitfox taildragger > Rotax 582 with 3 blade prop > Wrightsville Pa > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lynn > Matteson > Sent: 16 March 2009 4:16 pm > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Flaperon Damage. > > > Speaking of flaperon damage, I was putting my plane away last week, > and got "just a bit outside" the 40-foot opening with my 29-foot > plane...DUH!...and the ragged edge of the bi-fold hangar door sliced > into the trailing edge of the flaperon, in the area between the two > outer bearings. I'm going to have to repair that metal damage, which > is about 1- 1/2" into the flap going forward of the trailing edge. > I'm thinking this is a perfect opportunity to rig up a trim tab onto > the flaperon to overcome the need to hold a little right aileron in > order to fly with wings level. The trim tab could become the repair > patch on, say, the top of the flaperon, and another patch could be > added on the bottom, or vise versa. Any thoughts...comments? (besides > being a dumb s- - -, that is...I already got that covered) : ) > > > Lynn Matteson > Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger > Jabiru 2200, #2062, 614 hrs > Sensenich 62x46 > Electroair direct-fire ignition system > Status: flying > >


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    Time: 02:31:49 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Michigan private strips
    From: "vetdrem" <vetdrem@hotmail.com>
    Lynn, This is terrible news, so I'm sorry to be the one to tell you. Pete passed away a week or so ago. He was in Florida, hanger flying with the guys at the seaplane school there, and had a heart attack and died right there. His great friend, Clyde, called me the day he died and told me. Clyde said that he was doing what he liked doing second best, hanger flying. His favorite thing was actually flying. He wouldn't have been able to fly the pietenpol this summer anyway. Clyde called me in January and said that Pete's hanger had caved in because of the heavy snow load, and crushed the pietnpol. He was re-building a Champ this winter in Tennessee before he went to Florida, and was expecting to go back to Home Acres in March or April. Sorry to pass on this bad news. Louie Champeau Model 3 912ul and '41 t-craft (bf-65) Houghton Lake, Mi (5y2) and Altus, Arkansas in the winter. Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=234895#234895


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    Time: 02:37:51 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Flaperon Damage.
    From: "akflyer" <akflyer_2000@yahoo.com>
    hell... a little gorrilla tape and your good to go. If that does not work out for you, just know that I will hand out a darwin award in your honor. sorry couldnt help it snakeman -------- DO NOT ARCHIVE Leonard Perry aka SNAKE Soldotna AK Avid &quot;C&quot; / Mk IV 582 IVO IFA Full Lotus 1260 #1 snake oil salesman since 1-22-2009 hander outer of humorless darwin awards Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=234896#234896


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    Time: 04:54:58 PM PST US
    From: "Michael Logan" <michael.logan@cox.net>
    Subject: Kingfox tires
    I have a pair that I bought last year but can't find wheels to fit since I have the Cleveland wheels and brakes. I could let the two tires and two tubes go for $90 plus shipping. I believe that is what I paid for the tires alone. Mike _____ From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Catz631@aol.com Sent: Monday, March 16, 2009 8:47 AM Subject: Kitfox-List: Kingfox tires Went on the Tires Unlimited website and checked for Nanking smooth tires like I am running on my 4. They don't list them anymore and after calling he confirmed they don't have them. Anyone know who might have them? Or a similar tire. I like them and was looking for a spare. Dick Maddux Fox 4 Pensacola,Fl _____ Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner <http://food.aol.com/frugal-feasts?ncid=emlcntusfood00000001> for $10 or less.


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    Time: 05:15:48 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Kingfox tires
    From: "vetdrem" <vetdrem@hotmail.com>
    I'll take them, call me at (989)387-4662 Louie Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=234906#234906


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    Time: 06:06:58 PM PST US
    From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
    Subject: Re: Michigan private strips
    At first I didn't know which Pete you meant, then it hit me...Pete Smith! My God....what a shock....he had given me his location on the "south side of 27 in a double wide mobile home" and I had written it on my Michigan Aeronautical Chart which I have before me, planning the trip to Lost Creek. Jeez, what a shame. I never even got the chance to get up there and see him. Damn, I gotta start doing these thing before somebody else goes away, or I do! When Pete packed up for the trip home from Osh in 2007, he showed me how to prop a plane....I never had done this before....and then I walked the wing past a few tents until it seemed like he was clear of them all. But the "parking honcho" caught up with him out on the taxiway and flagged him down, telling him that he had brushed a tent, and he (the honcho) looked the wingtip over and declared it undamaged, and waved him away. That week was the first time I had met Pete, and the last time I saw Pete, complete with his leather flying helmet and goggles,(if I'm recalling the goggles correctly)...what a shame....well, I guess this is to be expected when I/we get to be this age. Thanks for letting me know, Louie. Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger Jabiru 2200, #2062, 615.2 hrs Sensenich 62x46 Electroair direct-fire ignition system Status: flying do not archive On Mar 16, 2009, at 5:30 PM, vetdrem wrote: > > Lynn, > > This is terrible news, so I'm sorry to be the one to tell you. > > Pete passed away a week or so ago. He was in Florida, hanger > flying with the guys at the seaplane school there, and had a heart > attack and died right there. His great friend, Clyde, called me > the day he died and told me. > > Clyde said that he was doing what he liked doing second best, > hanger flying. His favorite thing was actually flying. > > He wouldn't have been able to fly the pietenpol this summer > anyway. Clyde called me in January and said that Pete's hanger had > caved in because of the heavy snow load, and crushed the pietnpol. > > He was re-building a Champ this winter in Tennessee before he went > to Florida, and was expecting to go back to Home Acres in March or > April. > > Sorry to pass on this bad news. > > Louie Champeau > Model 3 912ul and '41 t-craft (bf-65) > Houghton Lake, Mi (5y2) > and Altus, Arkansas in the winter. > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=234895#234895 > >


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    Time: 06:08:31 PM PST US
    From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
    Subject: Re: Flaperon Damage.
    The duct tape is already in place....gorilla would have pulled the aluminum skin off the foam inner, if I had to remove it. : ) Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger Jabiru 2200, #2062, 615.2 hrs Sensenich 62x46 Electroair direct-fire ignition system Status: flying do not archive On Mar 16, 2009, at 5:36 PM, akflyer wrote: > > hell... a little gorrilla tape and your good to go. If that does > not work out for you, just know that I will hand out a darwin award > in your honor. > > sorry couldnt help it > > snakeman > > -------- > DO NOT ARCHIVE > Leonard Perry aka SNAKE > Soldotna AK > Avid &quot;C&quot; / Mk IV > 582 IVO IFA > Full Lotus 1260 > #1 snake oil salesman since 1-22-2009 > > hander outer of humorless darwin awards > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=234896#234896 > >


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    Time: 06:16:35 PM PST US
    Subject: Kingfox tires
    From: "Paul Franz - Merlin GT" <paul@eucleides.com>
    On Mon, March 16, 2009 3:56 pm, Michael Logan wrote: > I have a pair that I bought last year but can't find wheels to fit since I > have the Cleveland wheels and brakes. The wheels shown on Dick Maddux's 'Fox: <http://forums.matronics.com/files/Kitfox_057_183.jpg> Are certainly good looking and the tires seem to be a very pleasing low profile shape. Why won't they fit on your Cleveland wheels? -- Paul A. Franz Registration/Aircraft - N14UW/Merlin GT Engine/Prop - Rotax 914/NSI CAP Bellevue WA 425.241.1618 Cell VILLAGE IDIOTS Stop debating? But that's what science is: "The scientific community has gone through this chapter and verse. We have long since passed the time when we should pretend this is a 'on the one hand, on the other hand' issue. It's not a matter of theory or conjecture, for goodness sake." -- Al Gore Blame Rush: "President Obama's a good friend of mine, and I'd just like to think about him and, you know, I know -- you know Rush Limbaugh and a lot of jackasses give him a hard time right now. They always trying to divide and conquer the country. They've already ruined the country, and now he's trying to save the country, and I want him to keep his head held high." -- former NBA star Charles Barkley Maybe she actually gets it: "If you are just fed up, at some point, just lean out your window and scream, 'I'm mad as hell,' 'cause that's what's happening to me. I'm losing my mind, because I don't understand why -- like they -- one of the things that I saw recently, they have this whole thing about taxing 'the wealthy.' Okay. Now, I don't mind that. I don't mind paying a little more tax 'cause I make a good living. But I don't want to get it coming and going. I don't want to get the federal raised and then the state raised and then the phone tax raised and then the television tax raised and then the city tax. Back off me!" -- entertainer Whoopi Goldberg SHORT CUTS "[M]any of us are hoping that all those in power fail, because those in power have a grating habit of being annoyingly self-righteous, hopelessly corrupt, resolutely incompetent and completely apathetic about the freedoms that they have sworn to protect. Embrace the failure. It's patriotic." -- columnist David Harsanyi "Obama brags -- albeit dishonestly -- that he's only raising taxes on rich people. Ninety-five percent of the American people will get a tax cut, the president insists. Well, which is it? Do the times demand shared sacrifice from us all, or from just 5 percent of Americans? If I say to 10 co-workers, 'We all need to chip in together to get this done,' and then say, 'So, Todd, open your wallet and give five bucks to everyone else in the room,' it would sound ridiculous. But when Obama says the same thing to 300 million Americans it's called 'leadership.'" -- columnist Jonah Goldberg "President Obama defended his plan for higher taxes on the rich. He is determined to level out the distribution of wealth in America. It wasn't historic enough for him to be our first black president, he also wants to be our first red one." --comedian Argus Hamilton


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    Time: 06:35:15 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Flaperon Damage.
    From: "Tom Jones" <nahsikhs@elltel.net>
    Andrew, after seeing the pictures I agree your A&P has the fix figured out. -------- Tom Jones Classic IV 503 Rotax, 72 inch Two blade Warp Ellensburg, WA Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=234918#234918


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    Time: 07:10:17 PM PST US
    From: Malcolm Brubaker <brubakermal@yahoo.com>
    Subject: Re: Kingfox tires
    I did not like my king fox tires I wore them out in a very short time but t hey looked very good-- In ordered some tires on line w steel rims and g ave the rims away they are 4 ply with a turf saver tried that will last lot longer then the king fox and did not cost much moor mal - mod 2 582 - 18.2 hrs this year- michigan --- On Mon, 3/16/09, Catz631@aol.com <Catz631@aol.com> wrote: From: Catz631@aol.com <Catz631@aol.com> Subject: Kitfox-List: Kingfox tires =0A =0AWent on the Tires Unlimited website and checked for Nanking smooth t ires like I am running on my 4. They don't list them anymore and after call ing he confirmed they don't have them. Anyone know who might have them? Or a similar tire. I like them and was looking for a spare.=0A----- ------------------------- ------------------------- --- Dick Maddux=0A----------------- ------------------------- ---------------- Fox 4=0A------ ------------------------- ------------------------- -- Pensacola,Fl Feeling the pinch at the grocery store? Make dinner for $10 or less.=0A =0A=0A


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    Time: 08:21:18 PM PST US
    From: Andrew Matthaey <experimentalab@yahoo.com>
    Subject: 582 Thermostat/Bungee wraps...
    Hello all,=0A=0AHaven't posted in several years,-as my recreational flyin g has been sporadic at best, but I'm-looking to get a few more hours unde r my belt as-available work continues to slide...I'm flying a-Model 3 b ehind a grayhead 582,-C-box and-3-blade GSC.=0A=0AI just replaced the b ungees through Kitfox-Aircraft, and they told me 4-5 wraps would be suffi cient. Well I nearly lost-a few digits, but I was able to get four wraps out of the new-bungees...Now the old bungees were wrapped 5 or 6 times ar ound each,-and there was plenty of play...Now after a good taxi-test,-b oth new bungees seem to have settled-with-about an inch gap between the bottom of the fuselage and the gear bar. Is that-about right, because I can't imagine how to-get another wrap out of them!=0A=0AAlso, as I was ta xiing out the other day I noticed the water temp and CHT's rising slightly higher than normal...pulled off and shutdown to find the radiator cool to t he touch. My best guess is that the thermostat is sticky after several mont hs of sitting. I'd rather not drop $150 on a new one ouch...any ideas on wh ere I could find a more cost-effective part?=0A=0AThanks!=0A=0AAndrew=0A=0A =0A


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    Time: 08:59:07 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: 582 Thermostat/Bungee wraps...
    From: "akflyer" <akflyer_2000@yahoo.com>
    OMC 3853799 I bought mine at Napa.. I think it was 6.29 if they are sagging that much, you need to get a buddy to help and get more wraps on it. -------- DO NOT ARCHIVE Leonard Perry aka SNAKE Soldotna AK Avid &quot;C&quot; / Mk IV 582 IVO IFA Full Lotus 1260 #1 snake oil salesman since 1-22-2009 hander outer of humorless darwin awards Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=234937#234937


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    Time: 09:19:16 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: 582 Thermostat/Bungee wraps...
    From: gary.algate@sandvik.com
    I seem to recall that the genuine Rotax thermostat has an internal by-pass in the event of diaphragm failure. You might want to look into this a little more closely. When I used to wrap my bungees it was a two man job. Inside the cabin I use a long screwdriver with the tip bent at 90 deg to reach down and pull up and stretch the bungee. The person underneath would assist. i could easily get 5 to 6 wraps with this method. Regards. Gary Algate GPLM Exploration Direct Ph: +61 (0)88179 5032 Office Ph: +61 (0)88276 7655 Cell Ph: +61 (0) 417 975 584 This e-mail is confidential and it is intended only for the addressees. Any review, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this message by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you have received this e-mail in error, kindly notify us immediately by telephone or e-mail and delete the message from your system. The sender does not accept liability for any errors or omissions in the contents of this message which may arise as a result of the e-mail transmission. "akflyer" <akflyer_2000@yahoo.com> Sent by: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com 17/03/2009 02:39 PM Please respond to kitfox-list@matronics.com To kitfox-list@matronics.com cc Subject Kitfox-List: Re: 582 Thermostat/Bungee wraps... OMC 3853799 I bought mine at Napa.. I think it was 6.29 if they are sagging that much, you need to get a buddy to help and get more wraps on it. -------- DO NOT ARCHIVE Leonard Perry aka SNAKE Soldotna AK Avid &quot;C&quot; / Mk IV 582 IVO IFA Full Lotus 1260 #1 snake oil salesman since 1-22-2009 hander outer of humorless darwin awards Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=234937#234937


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    Time: 09:19:17 PM PST US
    From: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com>
    Subject: Re: 582 Thermostat/Bungee wraps...
    At 08:58 PM 3/16/2009, you wrote: >OMC 3853799 > >I bought mine at Napa.. I think it was 6.29 Good job Leonard. You have no problem running a 160F thermostat? I think stock is about 135F. Guy Buchanan San Diego, CA K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 300 hrs. and counting


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    Time: 10:18:08 PM PST US
    From: Guy Buchanan <bnn@nethere.com>
    Subject: Re: 582 Thermostat/Bungee wraps...
    At 08:20 PM 3/16/2009, you wrote: >Now after a good taxi-test, both new bungees seem to have settled >with about an inch gap between the bottom of the fuselage and the >gear bar. Is that about right, because I can't imagine how to get >another wrap out of them! Too loose. Check the archives. (http://www.matronics.com/searching/search.html) There has been a lot of past traffic regarding how to tighten bungies. You can get six wraps without too much trouble. > >Also, as I was taxiing out the other day I noticed the water temp >and CHT's rising slightly higher than normal...pulled off and >shutdown to find the radiator cool to the touch. My best guess is >that the thermostat is sticky after several months of sitting. I'd >rather not drop $150 on a new one ouch...any ideas on where I could >find a more cost-effective part?\ I've broken two now. You're right, they're expensive. However I'll bet they're the same ones the karts use. Let's spend some time tracking down a cheaper source. (I ran through four pages of Google and didn't find anything obvious, but it looks promising.) Guy Buchanan San Diego, CA K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 300 hrs. and counting




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