Kitfox-List Digest Archive

Tue 09/15/09


Total Messages Posted: 16



Today's Message Index:
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     1. 04:43 AM - Re: Kitfox IV cockpit (Av8r3400)
     2. 05:05 AM - Re: Re: plastic source, toe in, Mod 3 seat (Lynn Matteson)
     3. 07:20 AM - Re: Using small notebook to drive small external monitor (paul wilson)
     4. 10:13 AM - Gap Seal Tape (akflyerbob)
     5. 11:16 AM - Re: Kitfox-List Digest: 15 Msgs - 09/14/09 (Ed Gray)
     6. 11:35 AM - Re: Experimental Light Sport (Bob Brennan)
     7. 11:45 AM - Re: Registration problems (Weiss Richard)
     8. 12:15 PM - Re: Re: Registration problems (Bob Brennan)
     9. 12:38 PM - Re: Re: Kitfox-List Digest: 15 Msgs - 09/14/09 (jdmcbean)
    10. 04:26 PM - Re: Using small notebook to drive small external monitor (John Reinking)
    11. 04:51 PM - Re: Re: Registration problems (ron schick)
    12. 06:11 PM - Re: Hi everyone, I'm back with a -4 with NSI questions.. (Hfirm)
    13. 06:15 PM - Re: Hi everyone, I'm back with a -4 with NSI questions.. (Hfirm)
    14. 06:57 PM - Re: Gap Seal Tape (Patrick Reilly)
    15. 09:57 PM - Decals (yodaone)
    16. 11:24 PM - how to fly a kitfox (eric hendriks)
 
 
 


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    Time: 04:43:50 AM PST US
    Subject: Re: Kitfox IV cockpit
    From: "Av8r3400" <theav8rweb@yahoo.com>
    sourdostan(at)aol.com wrote: > Thanks, Av8r3400, for the information. However, could you and others on the list please tell us your name when you post? Would even be nice to know where you're located. I think this would make the list much more interesting for many of us. > -- Some people (like me) just aren't comfortable putting too much personal information on the public portions of the WWW . Maybe I'm just paranoid. [Shocked] Stan, my name is Larry, I think that my wife and I met you this year at Airventure. I was looking at your Columbine for ideas on my IV-1200 restoration. I'd send you a PM with my personal contact info, but you aren't registered for that... -------- Thanks, Av8r3400 Kitfox Model IV-1200 W/912UL &amp; IVO Kitfox Model IV-1050 W/912UL &amp; Warp Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=263102#263102


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    Time: 05:05:59 AM PST US
    From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
    Subject: Re: plastic source, toe in, Mod 3 seat
    I was talking to a guy at MERFI the other day and he also bought some 14" wide stuff...clear...and I thought he said it was from Maule. You might try them. Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger Jabiru 2200, #2062, 768.4 hrs Countdown to 1000 hrs~232 to go Sensenich 62"x46" Wood prop Electroair direct-fire ignition system Rotec TBI-40 injection Status: flying do not archive On Sep 14, 2009, at 11:26 PM, akflyerbob wrote: > <r.wolfejr@worldnet.att.net> > > Pat, I also bought some of that material and have looked thru > my receipts from hell and cant find the company. > However I have a lot left and could ship you some. > Let me know how much you need. Seems like I bought > 16' or 18' X 14". I split of 3" strips for gap seals. > By the way, got the tires. > Bob > > -------- > Bob Wolfe..Soldotna, Alaska > KF Mod I and III > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=263087#263087 > >


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    Time: 07:20:23 AM PST US
    From: paul wilson <pwmac@sisna.com>
    Subject: Re: Using small notebook to drive small external monitor
    Do it the simple way and buy a USB plug in GPS for a notebook. Both work fine and are reasonably priced. One thing to remember is If you laptop has a hard drive vs flash memory it will be pretty easy to destroy the HD. causes are head to disk clearances reduced due to altitude and vibration both causing HD crash. The best setup I have seen was a very inexpensive laptop wrapped in foam padding and stuffed under the seat, then the guy had a modest sized LCD display that he mounted on the panel. I thought he was taking risk for the HD , but he said he had no issues yet. The main issue is will the USB GPS have the features you desire? Paul ======== At 03:12 PM 9/14/2009, you wrote: > >Have any of you taken a handheld GPS and used it to drive a small >external monitor ( like the kind used for backseat displays for dvd >players? Have an old Lowrance 500 and am wondering if it could be >used to display on a larger separate monitor (6-7"). Any >thoughts? Thanks fellas. John/Woodinville, WA > >


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    Time: 10:13:47 AM PST US
    Subject: Gap Seal Tape
    From: "akflyerbob" <r.wolfejr@worldnet.att.net>
    OK I found this posted 02-sept-07 by oscardog Tognar.com click on Travel bags & Packs Click on Skuff Saver Tape #TYC 7210 14" wide sold by ft I called them, its still in stock Bob -------- Bob Wolfe..Soldotna, Alaska KF Mod I and III Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=263158#263158


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    Time: 11:16:39 AM PST US
    From: "Ed Gray" <egraylaw@swbell.net>
    Subject: RE: Kitfox-List Digest: 15 Msgs - 09/14/09
    I am getting some vague information from the FAA about my Kitfox registration. My application is hung up somewhere because I didn't have the bill of sale from Denney Aerocraft to the original owner in 1990. I have told the FAA guy I want the plane to be "Experimental Light Sport" but the application contained the line "not for light sport aircraft". The plane meets all LSA criteria, so will it be licensed as LSA? Who here is "in the know". Ed Gray, Dallas, KII, 582, ready to fly with new tailwheel spring and Maule compression springs. Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kitfox-List Digest Server Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 1:59 AM Subject: Kitfox-List Digest: 15 Msgs - 09/14/09 * ================================================= Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive ================================================= Today's complete Kitfox-List Digest can also be found in either of the two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version of the Kitfox-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor such as Notepad or with a web browser. HTML Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 09-09-14&Archive=Kitfox Text Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 2009-09-14&Archive=Kitfox =============================================== EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive =============================================== ---------------------------------------------------------- Kitfox-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 09/14/09: 15 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:56 AM - Re: Kitfox IV cockpit (Michael Logan) 2. 05:50 AM - Need help with Northstar F210 (Lynn Matteson) 3. 07:19 AM - Re: Kitfox IV cockpit (Pete Christensen) 4. 10:21 AM - Re: Need help with Northstar F210 (akflyer) 5. 11:59 AM - Re: Kitfox IV cockpit (beberle) 6. 01:57 PM - Re: Kitfox IV cockpit (Av8r3400) 7. 02:27 PM - Re: Hi everyone, I'm back with a -4 with NSI questions.. (fox5flyer) 8. 02:47 PM - Using small notebook to drive small external monitor (John Reinking) 9. 02:53 PM - Re: Re: Need help with Northstar F210 (Lynn Matteson) 10. 03:19 PM - Re: Re: Kitfox IV cockpit (sourdostan@aol.com) 11. 03:49 PM - Re: Re: Kitfox IV cockpit (Lynn Matteson) 12. 06:05 PM - Re: Using small notebook to drive small external monitor (wingnut) 13. 08:30 PM - Re: plastic source, toe in, Mod 3 seat (akflyerbob) 14. 08:54 PM - Re: Kitfox Factory Fly-in () 15. 11:46 PM - Re: Using small notebook to drive small external monitor (Michel Verheughe) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:56:12 AM PST US From: "Michael Logan" <michael.logan@cox.net> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Kitfox IV cockpit The secret is for a tall person to fly with a short person, then your shoulders do not get in each others way. :^) Mike Logan -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Guy Buchanan Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 2:04 AM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Kitfox IV cockpit At 06:17 PM 9/13/2009, you wrote: >So, I would say it is a little too >tight for two bigger than average guys (> 200 lbs). Paul, This made me laugh, because I remembered my first flight in a Kitfox. Our own Lowell Fitt was gracious enough to offer his aircraft and flight instructor to me, a stranger, for an introductory flight. (Thanks again Lowell. It proved to be the start of more than one great friendship.) I'm about 6' and weighed about 200#. The instructor weighted about 225#. It was no problem for Lowell's Fox with the 912, but our comfort level was pretty low. I think we flew with left shoulders back and right shoulders forward. That said I know many who fly very long distances with two in their IV. (Steve Kellender just flew with a passenger from Phoenix to Homedale and back.) Guy Buchanan San Diego, CA K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 400 hrs. and counting ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:50:00 AM PST US From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net> Subject: Kitfox-List: Need help with Northstar F210 Does anybody know the calibration method for the Northstar F210? I can't locate my instruction manual. Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger Jabiru 2200, #2062, 767.2 hrs Countdown to 1000 hrs~233 to go Sensenich 62"x46" Wood prop Electroair direct-fire ignition system Rotec TBI-40 injection Status: flying ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:19:25 AM PST US From: "Pete Christensen" <pchristensen10@austin.rr.com> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Kitfox IV cockpit I weigh 220 and my son in law weighs 208. We fit tightly in my III with bubble doors. Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Franz - Merlin GT" <paul@eucleides.com> Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2009 8:17 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Kitfox IV cockpit > <paul@eucleides.com> > > On Sun, September 13, 2009 5:17 pm, beberle wrote: > >> How wide is a Kitfox IV cockpit? Searched in vain on the web for >> dimensions. I sat >> in the Aerotek/Eurofox demo at Oshkosh, pretty comfy cabin at 44". Not >> sure I could >> fit comfortably in much smaller... > > 11 years ago, the late Miguel Ramirez and I attempted to fly together in > his KF IV. > While we could twist our bodies a little for shoulder room we could not > both be seated > and have ample clearance for the control sticks. So, I would say it is a > little too > tight for two bigger than average guys (> 200 lbs). > -- > Paul A. Franz > Registration/Aircraft - N14UW/Merlin GT > Engine/Prop - Rotax 914/NSI CAP > Bellevue WA ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:21:07 AM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Need help with Northstar F210 From: "akflyer" <akflyer_2000@yahoo.com> http://avidfoxflyers.com/index.php?topic=377.0 have the manual loaded to my site... no snake oil was injected into the manual. -------- DO NOT ARCHIVE Leonard Perry aka SNAKE Soldotna AK Avid &quot;C&quot; / Mk IV 582 IVO IFA Full Lotus 1450 #1 snake oil salesman since 1-22-2009 hander outer of humorless darwin awards Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=262967#262967 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:59:28 AM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Kitfox IV cockpit From: "beberle" <beberle1@bellsouth.net> Thanks for the info! Wish I had a kit to run out to the garage to measure :D Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=262992#262992 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 01:57:08 PM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Kitfox IV cockpit From: "Av8r3400" <theav8rweb@yahoo.com> I'm 5'-9" and about 230#, my CFI who is doing my transition training with me is 6' and 190#. We are not uncomfortable in the plane with the bubble doors. It's cozy, but not uncomfortable. Of course it's not a Cirrus or anything, but it is functional with two "real" adults in it. Much better than a C150, IMO. -------- Thanks, Av8r3400 Kitfox Model IV-1200 912UL IVO-IFA Grove Gear Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=263010#263010 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 02:27:22 PM PST US From: "fox5flyer" <fox5flyer@idealwifi.net> Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Hi everyone, I'm back with a -4 with NSI questions.. Howard, I scanned the schematic for you and attached. Let me know if you can read it OK. If not, I can snail mail you a copy of it. Deke ----- Original Message ----- From: "fox5flyer" <fox5flyer@idealwifi.net> Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 2:38 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Hi everyone, I'm back with a -4 with NSI questions.. > > Give me a few days, Howard. I'm away from home and as soon as I return > I'll take care of it. > I'm pretty sure the plug wires are a little out of whack. > Deke Morisse > Mikado Michigan > S5/Subaru/CAP 433+ TT > "If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara > Desert, in five years there'd be a shortage of sand." > -- Nobel prize-winning economist Milton Friedman (1912-2006) ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 02:47:45 PM PST US From: John Reinking <reinkings@comcast.net> Subject: Kitfox-List: Using small notebook to drive small external monitor Have any of you taken a handheld GPS and used it to drive a small external monitor ( like the kind used for backseat displays for dvd players? Have an old Lowrance 500 and am wondering if it could be used to display on a larger separate monitor (6-7"). Any thoughts? Thanks fellas. John/Woodinville, WA ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 02:53:37 PM PST US From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Need help with Northstar F210 Thanks, Snake....I finally figured out that downloading the manual, making 6 copies and nailing one each to the interior walls, ceiling and floor of my hangar was the only way to insure that one would be handy when I needed it...well, maybe THAT'S a bit of a stretch, but you get the idea. Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger Jabiru 2200, #2062, 767.2 hrs Countdown to 1000 hrs~233 to go Sensenich 62"x46" Wood prop Electroair direct-fire ignition system Rotec TBI-40 injection Status: flying do not archive On Sep 14, 2009, at 1:18 PM, akflyer wrote: > > http://avidfoxflyers.com/index.php?topic=377.0 > > have the manual loaded to my site... no snake oil was injected into > the manual. > > -------- > DO NOT ARCHIVE > Leonard Perry aka SNAKE > Soldotna AK > Avid &quot;C&quot; / Mk IV > 582 IVO IFA > Full Lotus 1450 > #1 snake oil salesman since 1-22-2009 > > hander outer of humorless darwin awards > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=262967#262967 > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 03:19:38 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Kitfox IV cockpit From: sourdostan@aol.com Thanks,?Av8r3400, for the information. However, could you and others on the list please tell us? your name when you post? Would even be nice to know where you're located. I think this would make the list much more interesting for many of us.? Thanks,? Stan Specht Denver, Colorado Kitfox Model IV Speedster? 912ul (1570+ hours) -----Original Message----- From: Av8r3400 <theav8rweb@yahoo.com> Sent: Mon, Sep 14, 2009 2:53 pm Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Kitfox IV cockpit I'm 5'-9" and about 230#, my CFI who is doing my transition training with me is 6' and 190#. We are not uncomfortable in the plane with the bubble doors. It's cozy, but not uncomfortable. Of course it's not a Cirrus or anything, but it is functional with two "real" adults in it. Much better than a C150, IMO. -------- Thanks, Av8r3400 Kitfox Model IV-1200 912UL IVO-IFA Grove Gear Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=263010#263010 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 03:49:10 PM PST US From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Kitfox IV cockpit Amen! ( do not archive ) Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger Jabiru 2200, #2062, 767.2 hrs Countdown to 1000 hrs~233 to go Sensenich 62"x46" Wood prop Electroair direct-fire ignition system Rotec TBI-40 injection Status: flying do not archive On Sep 14, 2009, at 6:10 PM, sourdostan@aol.com wrote: > Thanks, Av8r3400, for the information. However, could you and > others on the list please tell us > your name when you post? Would even be nice to know where you're > located. I think this would make the list much more interesting for > many of us. > > Thanks, > > Stan Specht > Denver, Colorado > Kitfox Model IV Speedster > 912ul (1570+ hours) > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Av8r3400 <theav8rweb@yahoo.com> > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Sent: Mon, Sep 14, 2009 2:53 pm > Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Kitfox IV cockpit > > <theav8rweb@yahoo.com> I'm 5'-9" and about 230#, my CFI who is > doing my transition training with me is 6' and 190#. We are not > uncomfortable in the plane with the bubble doors. It's cozy, but > not uncomfortable. Of course it's not a Cirrus or anything, but it > is functional with two "real" adults in it. Much better than a > C150, IMO. -------- Thanks, Av8r3400 Kitfox Model IV-1200 912UL IVO- > IFA Grove Gear Read this topic online here: http:// > forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=263010#263010 > www.matronics.com/contribution _- > ========================================================== ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 06:05:57 PM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Using small notebook to drive small external monitor From: "wingnut" <wingnut@spamarrest.com> Portable devices don't usually use any kind of standard interface to talk to its own internal display so you can't just tap into it and route it to an external display. The maker of the device must build in extra circuitry to produce some kind of standard external signal output. It would be an extra cost for a feature that most people wouldn't use so they don't usually bother. I took a look at the specifications for the Lowrance 500 and it doesn't mention anything like that so I think you're out of luck. -------- Luis Rodriguez Model IV 1200 Rotax 912UL Flying Weekly Laurens, SC (34A) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=263061#263061 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 08:30:07 PM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: plastic source, toe in, Mod 3 seat From: "akflyerbob" <r.wolfejr@worldnet.att.net> Pat, I also bought some of that material and have looked thru my receipts from hell and cant find the company. However I have a lot left and could ship you some. Let me know how much you need. Seems like I bought 16' or 18' X 14". I split of 3" strips for gap seals. By the way, got the tires. Bob -------- Bob Wolfe..Soldotna, Alaska KF Mod I and III Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=263087#263087 ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 08:54:49 PM PST US From: <jdmcbean@kitfoxaircraft.com> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Kitfox Factory Fly-in Kitfox Factory Fly-in =93 SUCCESS Celebrating 25 years of Kitfox !! Thank you to all that helped make the Kitfox Fly-in 2009 a great success !! Over 35 aircraft and almost 100 people descended on S66 We have the best kit aircraft in our class and it follows with the class of the individuals that choose to make the Kitfox their aircraft of choice. With almost 5000 kits sold worldwide, it is very exciting when one gets the opportunity to view one of the earliest Kitfox=99s, N85DD, to the latest kit, the S7 Super Sport and the latest development the Kitfox S-LSA joined by Dan Denney and his =9CSpecial Effects=9D at the same time in one place. Followed by the individuals that offer their time and expertise to aid a fellow Kitfoxer get back in the air quickly when misfortune strikes. We had Kitfox=99s fly-in from Southern California, Washington, Utah, Colorado, Arizona and as far as Austin Texas. All are home safe. Local area flights to the Owyhees were abundant and flights into Smiley Creek and Sulpher Creek are trips not to be missed. The smoked bbq food was great, the live music a pleasure and most important the Kitfox family had a great time Great Fun!! Great Food !! Great Flying !! Debra & I thank you for taking the time to join us in celebrating 25 years of Kitfox !! ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 11:46:20 PM PST US From: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no> Subject: Kitfox-List: RE: Using small notebook to drive small external monitor > From: John Reinking [reinkings@comcast.net] > Have any of you taken a handheld GPS and used it to drive a small > external monitor In a perfect world, it could, John. But not in this one. I collaborate to the PocketFMS software which gives a moving map and flight planner on small devices like PocketPC and carNav with GPS. It's hell! Each device has its own way to do things, own operative sytem, Windows Mobile, Windows CE, etc. Everyone is trying to get all the others to adopt their standard, they want to be the new rulers of the world. Even here, in Norway, they have started with a pocket TV. It works on a system that is only used by three providers, here in Norway. You can't use it anywhere else in the world. Needless to say; I am not buying that stuff. Years ago, I asked a good friend who is also the director for JVC Norway why the hi-fi industry can't get around to standard types of cables. He answered: Well, we make money selling hi-fi equimpment but we also like to make money selling cables. Cheers, Miche Verheughe Norway Kitfox 3 - Jabiru 2200 Do not archive <pre><b><font size=2 color="#000000" face="courier new,courier"> </b></font></pre>


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    Time: 11:35:03 AM PST US
    From: "Bob Brennan" <matronics@bob.brennan.name>
    Subject: RE: Experimental Light Sport
    Ed, Has the plane ever been registered (N-number) or had an Airworthiness Certificate? Has it ever flown? Bob Brennan - N717GB ELSA Repairman, inspection rated 1991 UK Model 2 ELSA Kitfox taildragger Rotax 582 with 3 blade GSC prop Wrightsville Pa -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ed Gray Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 1:56 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: RE: Kitfox-List Digest: 15 Msgs - 09/14/09 I am getting some vague information from the FAA about my Kitfox registration. My application is hung up somewhere because I didn't have the bill of sale from Denney Aerocraft to the original owner in 1990. I have told the FAA guy I want the plane to be "Experimental Light Sport" but the application contained the line "not for light sport aircraft". The plane meets all LSA criteria, so will it be licensed as LSA? Who here is "in the know". Ed Gray, Dallas, KII, 582, ready to fly with new tailwheel spring and Maule compression springs. Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kitfox-List Digest Server Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 1:59 AM Subject: Kitfox-List Digest: 15 Msgs - 09/14/09 * ================================================= Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive ================================================= Today's complete Kitfox-List Digest can also be found in either of the two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version of the Kitfox-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor such as Notepad or with a web browser. HTML Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 09-09-14&Archive=Kitfox Text Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 2009-09-14&Archive=Kitfox =============================================== EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive =============================================== ---------------------------------------------------------- Kitfox-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 09/14/09: 15 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:56 AM - Re: Kitfox IV cockpit (Michael Logan) 2. 05:50 AM - Need help with Northstar F210 (Lynn Matteson) 3. 07:19 AM - Re: Kitfox IV cockpit (Pete Christensen) 4. 10:21 AM - Re: Need help with Northstar F210 (akflyer) 5. 11:59 AM - Re: Kitfox IV cockpit (beberle) 6. 01:57 PM - Re: Kitfox IV cockpit (Av8r3400) 7. 02:27 PM - Re: Hi everyone, I'm back with a -4 with NSI questions.. (fox5flyer) 8. 02:47 PM - Using small notebook to drive small external monitor (John Reinking) 9. 02:53 PM - Re: Re: Need help with Northstar F210 (Lynn Matteson) 10. 03:19 PM - Re: Re: Kitfox IV cockpit (sourdostan@aol.com) 11. 03:49 PM - Re: Re: Kitfox IV cockpit (Lynn Matteson) 12. 06:05 PM - Re: Using small notebook to drive small external monitor (wingnut) 13. 08:30 PM - Re: plastic source, toe in, Mod 3 seat (akflyerbob) 14. 08:54 PM - Re: Kitfox Factory Fly-in () 15. 11:46 PM - Re: Using small notebook to drive small external monitor (Michel Verheughe) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:56:12 AM PST US From: "Michael Logan" <michael.logan@cox.net> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Kitfox IV cockpit The secret is for a tall person to fly with a short person, then your shoulders do not get in each others way. :^) Mike Logan -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Guy Buchanan Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 2:04 AM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Kitfox IV cockpit At 06:17 PM 9/13/2009, you wrote: >So, I would say it is a little too >tight for two bigger than average guys (> 200 lbs). Paul, This made me laugh, because I remembered my first flight in a Kitfox. Our own Lowell Fitt was gracious enough to offer his aircraft and flight instructor to me, a stranger, for an introductory flight. (Thanks again Lowell. It proved to be the start of more than one great friendship.) I'm about 6' and weighed about 200#. The instructor weighted about 225#. It was no problem for Lowell's Fox with the 912, but our comfort level was pretty low. I think we flew with left shoulders back and right shoulders forward. That said I know many who fly very long distances with two in their IV. (Steve Kellender just flew with a passenger from Phoenix to Homedale and back.) Guy Buchanan San Diego, CA K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 400 hrs. and counting ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:50:00 AM PST US From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net> Subject: Kitfox-List: Need help with Northstar F210 Does anybody know the calibration method for the Northstar F210? I can't locate my instruction manual. Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger Jabiru 2200, #2062, 767.2 hrs Countdown to 1000 hrs~233 to go Sensenich 62"x46" Wood prop Electroair direct-fire ignition system Rotec TBI-40 injection Status: flying ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:19:25 AM PST US From: "Pete Christensen" <pchristensen10@austin.rr.com> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Kitfox IV cockpit I weigh 220 and my son in law weighs 208. We fit tightly in my III with bubble doors. Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Franz - Merlin GT" <paul@eucleides.com> Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2009 8:17 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Kitfox IV cockpit > <paul@eucleides.com> > > On Sun, September 13, 2009 5:17 pm, beberle wrote: > >> How wide is a Kitfox IV cockpit? Searched in vain on the web for >> dimensions. I sat >> in the Aerotek/Eurofox demo at Oshkosh, pretty comfy cabin at 44". Not >> sure I could >> fit comfortably in much smaller... > > 11 years ago, the late Miguel Ramirez and I attempted to fly together in > his KF IV. > While we could twist our bodies a little for shoulder room we could not > both be seated > and have ample clearance for the control sticks. So, I would say it is a > little too > tight for two bigger than average guys (> 200 lbs). > -- > Paul A. Franz > Registration/Aircraft - N14UW/Merlin GT > Engine/Prop - Rotax 914/NSI CAP > Bellevue WA ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:21:07 AM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Need help with Northstar F210 From: "akflyer" <akflyer_2000@yahoo.com> http://avidfoxflyers.com/index.php?topic=377.0 have the manual loaded to my site... no snake oil was injected into the manual. -------- DO NOT ARCHIVE Leonard Perry aka SNAKE Soldotna AK Avid &quot;C&quot; / Mk IV 582 IVO IFA Full Lotus 1450 #1 snake oil salesman since 1-22-2009 hander outer of humorless darwin awards Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=262967#262967 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:59:28 AM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Kitfox IV cockpit From: "beberle" <beberle1@bellsouth.net> Thanks for the info! Wish I had a kit to run out to the garage to measure :D Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=262992#262992 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 01:57:08 PM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Kitfox IV cockpit From: "Av8r3400" <theav8rweb@yahoo.com> I'm 5'-9" and about 230#, my CFI who is doing my transition training with me is 6' and 190#. We are not uncomfortable in the plane with the bubble doors. It's cozy, but not uncomfortable. Of course it's not a Cirrus or anything, but it is functional with two "real" adults in it. Much better than a C150, IMO. -------- Thanks, Av8r3400 Kitfox Model IV-1200 912UL IVO-IFA Grove Gear Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=263010#263010 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 02:27:22 PM PST US From: "fox5flyer" <fox5flyer@idealwifi.net> Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Hi everyone, I'm back with a -4 with NSI questions.. Howard, I scanned the schematic for you and attached. Let me know if you can read it OK. If not, I can snail mail you a copy of it. Deke ----- Original Message ----- From: "fox5flyer" <fox5flyer@idealwifi.net> Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 2:38 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Hi everyone, I'm back with a -4 with NSI questions.. > > Give me a few days, Howard. I'm away from home and as soon as I return > I'll take care of it. > I'm pretty sure the plug wires are a little out of whack. > Deke Morisse > Mikado Michigan > S5/Subaru/CAP 433+ TT > "If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara > Desert, in five years there'd be a shortage of sand." > -- Nobel prize-winning economist Milton Friedman (1912-2006) ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 02:47:45 PM PST US From: John Reinking <reinkings@comcast.net> Subject: Kitfox-List: Using small notebook to drive small external monitor Have any of you taken a handheld GPS and used it to drive a small external monitor ( like the kind used for backseat displays for dvd players? Have an old Lowrance 500 and am wondering if it could be used to display on a larger separate monitor (6-7"). Any thoughts? Thanks fellas. John/Woodinville, WA ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 02:53:37 PM PST US From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Need help with Northstar F210 Thanks, Snake....I finally figured out that downloading the manual, making 6 copies and nailing one each to the interior walls, ceiling and floor of my hangar was the only way to insure that one would be handy when I needed it...well, maybe THAT'S a bit of a stretch, but you get the idea. Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger Jabiru 2200, #2062, 767.2 hrs Countdown to 1000 hrs~233 to go Sensenich 62"x46" Wood prop Electroair direct-fire ignition system Rotec TBI-40 injection Status: flying do not archive On Sep 14, 2009, at 1:18 PM, akflyer wrote: > > http://avidfoxflyers.com/index.php?topic=377.0 > > have the manual loaded to my site... no snake oil was injected into > the manual. > > -------- > DO NOT ARCHIVE > Leonard Perry aka SNAKE > Soldotna AK > Avid &quot;C&quot; / Mk IV > 582 IVO IFA > Full Lotus 1450 > #1 snake oil salesman since 1-22-2009 > > hander outer of humorless darwin awards > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=262967#262967 > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 03:19:38 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Kitfox IV cockpit From: sourdostan@aol.com Thanks,?Av8r3400, for the information. However, could you and others on the list please tell us? your name when you post? Would even be nice to know where you're located. I think this would make the list much more interesting for many of us.? Thanks,? Stan Specht Denver, Colorado Kitfox Model IV Speedster? 912ul (1570+ hours) -----Original Message----- From: Av8r3400 <theav8rweb@yahoo.com> Sent: Mon, Sep 14, 2009 2:53 pm Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Kitfox IV cockpit I'm 5'-9" and about 230#, my CFI who is doing my transition training with me is 6' and 190#. We are not uncomfortable in the plane with the bubble doors. It's cozy, but not uncomfortable. Of course it's not a Cirrus or anything, but it is functional with two "real" adults in it. Much better than a C150, IMO. -------- Thanks, Av8r3400 Kitfox Model IV-1200 912UL IVO-IFA Grove Gear Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=263010#263010 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 03:49:10 PM PST US From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Kitfox IV cockpit Amen! ( do not archive ) Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger Jabiru 2200, #2062, 767.2 hrs Countdown to 1000 hrs~233 to go Sensenich 62"x46" Wood prop Electroair direct-fire ignition system Rotec TBI-40 injection Status: flying do not archive On Sep 14, 2009, at 6:10 PM, sourdostan@aol.com wrote: > Thanks, Av8r3400, for the information. However, could you and > others on the list please tell us > your name when you post? Would even be nice to know where you're > located. I think this would make the list much more interesting for > many of us. > > Thanks, > > Stan Specht > Denver, Colorado > Kitfox Model IV Speedster > 912ul (1570+ hours) > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Av8r3400 <theav8rweb@yahoo.com> > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Sent: Mon, Sep 14, 2009 2:53 pm > Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Kitfox IV cockpit > > <theav8rweb@yahoo.com> I'm 5'-9" and about 230#, my CFI who is > doing my transition training with me is 6' and 190#. We are not > uncomfortable in the plane with the bubble doors. It's cozy, but > not uncomfortable. Of course it's not a Cirrus or anything, but it > is functional with two "real" adults in it. Much better than a > C150, IMO. -------- Thanks, Av8r3400 Kitfox Model IV-1200 912UL IVO- > IFA Grove Gear Read this topic online here: http:// > forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=263010#263010 > www.matronics.com/contribution _- > ========================================================== ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 06:05:57 PM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Using small notebook to drive small external monitor From: "wingnut" <wingnut@spamarrest.com> Portable devices don't usually use any kind of standard interface to talk to its own internal display so you can't just tap into it and route it to an external display. The maker of the device must build in extra circuitry to produce some kind of standard external signal output. It would be an extra cost for a feature that most people wouldn't use so they don't usually bother. I took a look at the specifications for the Lowrance 500 and it doesn't mention anything like that so I think you're out of luck. -------- Luis Rodriguez Model IV 1200 Rotax 912UL Flying Weekly Laurens, SC (34A) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=263061#263061 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 08:30:07 PM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: plastic source, toe in, Mod 3 seat From: "akflyerbob" <r.wolfejr@worldnet.att.net> Pat, I also bought some of that material and have looked thru my receipts from hell and cant find the company. However I have a lot left and could ship you some. Let me know how much you need. Seems like I bought 16' or 18' X 14". I split of 3" strips for gap seals. By the way, got the tires. Bob -------- Bob Wolfe..Soldotna, Alaska KF Mod I and III Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=263087#263087 ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 08:54:49 PM PST US From: <jdmcbean@kitfoxaircraft.com> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Kitfox Factory Fly-in Kitfox Factory Fly-in =93 SUCCESS Celebrating 25 years of Kitfox !! Thank you to all that helped make the Kitfox Fly-in 2009 a great success !! Over 35 aircraft and almost 100 people descended on S66 We have the best kit aircraft in our class and it follows with the class of the individuals that choose to make the Kitfox their aircraft of choice. With almost 5000 kits sold worldwide, it is very exciting when one gets the opportunity to view one of the earliest Kitfox=99s, N85DD, to the latest kit, the S7 Super Sport and the latest development the Kitfox S-LSA joined by Dan Denney and his =9CSpecial Effects=9D at the same time in one place. Followed by the individuals that offer their time and expertise to aid a fellow Kitfoxer get back in the air quickly when misfortune strikes. We had Kitfox=99s fly-in from Southern California, Washington, Utah, Colorado, Arizona and as far as Austin Texas. All are home safe. Local area flights to the Owyhees were abundant and flights into Smiley Creek and Sulpher Creek are trips not to be missed. The smoked bbq food was great, the live music a pleasure and most important the Kitfox family had a great time Great Fun!! Great Food !! Great Flying !! Debra & I thank you for taking the time to join us in celebrating 25 years of Kitfox !! ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 11:46:20 PM PST US From: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no> Subject: Kitfox-List: RE: Using small notebook to drive small external monitor > From: John Reinking [reinkings@comcast.net] > Have any of you taken a handheld GPS and used it to drive a small > external monitor In a perfect world, it could, John. But not in this one. I collaborate to the PocketFMS software which gives a moving map and flight planner on small devices like PocketPC and carNav with GPS. It's hell! Each device has its own way to do things, own operative sytem, Windows Mobile, Windows CE, etc. Everyone is trying to get all the others to adopt their standard, they want to be the new rulers of the world. Even here, in Norway, they have started with a pocket TV. It works on a system that is only used by three providers, here in Norway. You can't use it anywhere else in the world. Needless to say; I am not buying that stuff. Years ago, I asked a good friend who is also the director for JVC Norway why the hi-fi industry can't get around to standard types of cables. He answered: Well, we make money selling hi-fi equimpment but we also like to make money selling cables. Cheers, Miche Verheughe Norway Kitfox 3 - Jabiru 2200 Do not archive <pre><b><font size=2 color="#000000" face="courier new,courier"> </b></font></pre>


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    Time: 11:45:07 AM PST US
    From: Weiss Richard <MDKitfox@aol.com>
    Subject: Re: Registration problems
    Ed, I'm not sure I completely understand your paperwork problem. Are you dealing with a DAR who has inspected the plane and is going to provide your operating specifications? Or are you referring to the registration for the N number? Is the DAR an FAA person or a designee? I'm just trying to get a better understanding of where you are in the process. TO answer your question, although I'm not 100% certain, this is my understanding of the rules; your aircraft will be registered as an Experimental - Amateur Built (E-AB). You can't register it as a light sport, since it has been previously registered as E-AB. However, you may operate it under the light sport aircraft rules provided it meets the criteria for LSA as you say it does (weight, engine, prop, etc.) I believe that is what you after anyway. I just went through the process last year and that is how my paperwork was completed. I'm sure if I erred, someone on the list will let us know. Happy flying! Rick Weiss N39RW Series V Speedster, 912ULS SkyStar S/N 1 Port Orange, FL On Sep 15, 2009, at 1:56 PM, Ed Gray wrote: > > I am getting some vague information from the FAA about my Kitfox > registration. My application is hung up somewhere because I didn't > have the > bill of sale from Denney Aerocraft to the original owner in 1990. I > have > told the FAA guy I want the plane to be "Experimental Light Sport" > but the > application contained the line "not for light sport aircraft". The > plane > meets all LSA criteria, so will it be licensed as LSA? Who here is > "in the > know". > > Ed Gray, Dallas, KII, 582, ready to fly with new tailwheel spring > and Maule > compression springs. Do not archive > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kitfox- > List > Digest Server > Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 1:59 AM > To: Kitfox-List Digest List > Subject: Kitfox-List Digest: 15 Msgs - 09/14/09 > > * > > ================================================= > Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive > ================================================= > > Today's complete Kitfox-List Digest can also be found in either of the > two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest > formatted > in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked > Indexes > and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII > version > of the Kitfox-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor > such as Notepad or with a web browser. > > HTML Version: > > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter > 09-09-14&Archive=Kitfox > > Text Version: > > > http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter > 2009-09-14&Archive=Kitfox > > > =============================================== > EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive > =============================================== > > > ---------------------------------------------------------- > Kitfox-List Digest Archive > --- > Total Messages Posted Mon 09/14/09: 15 > ---------------------------------------------------------- > > > Today's Message Index: > ---------------------- > > 1. 02:56 AM - Re: Kitfox IV cockpit (Michael Logan) > 2. 05:50 AM - Need help with Northstar F210 (Lynn Matteson) > 3. 07:19 AM - Re: Kitfox IV cockpit (Pete Christensen) > 4. 10:21 AM - Re: Need help with Northstar F210 (akflyer) > 5. 11:59 AM - Re: Kitfox IV cockpit (beberle) > 6. 01:57 PM - Re: Kitfox IV cockpit (Av8r3400) > 7. 02:27 PM - Re: Hi everyone, I'm back with a -4 with NSI > questions.. > (fox5flyer) > 8. 02:47 PM - Using small notebook to drive small external monitor > (John Reinking) > 9. 02:53 PM - Re: Re: Need help with Northstar F210 (Lynn > Matteson) > 10. 03:19 PM - Re: Re: Kitfox IV cockpit (sourdostan@aol.com) > 11. 03:49 PM - Re: Re: Kitfox IV cockpit (Lynn Matteson) > 12. 06:05 PM - Re: Using small notebook to drive small external > monitor > (wingnut) > 13. 08:30 PM - Re: plastic source, toe in, Mod 3 seat (akflyerbob) > 14. 08:54 PM - Re: Kitfox Factory Fly-in () > 15. 11:46 PM - Re: Using small notebook to drive small external > monitor > (Michel Verheughe) > > > ________________________________ Message 1 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 02:56:12 AM PST US > From: "Michael Logan" <michael.logan@cox.net> > Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Kitfox IV cockpit > > > The secret is for a tall person to fly with a short person, then your > shoulders do not get in each others way. :^) > > Mike Logan > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com > [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Guy > Buchanan > Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 2:04 AM > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Kitfox IV cockpit > > > At 06:17 PM 9/13/2009, you wrote: >> So, I would say it is a little too >> tight for two bigger than average guys (> 200 lbs). > > Paul, > This made me laugh, because I remembered my first flight in > a Kitfox. Our own Lowell Fitt was gracious enough to offer his > aircraft and flight instructor to me, a stranger, for an introductory > flight. (Thanks again Lowell. It proved to be the start of more than > one great friendship.) I'm about 6' and weighed about 200#. The > instructor weighted about 225#. It was no problem for Lowell's Fox > with the 912, but our comfort level was pretty low. I think we flew > with left shoulders back and right shoulders forward. That said I > know many who fly very long distances with two in their IV. (Steve > Kellender just flew with a passenger from Phoenix to Homedale and > back.) > > > Guy Buchanan > San Diego, CA > K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 400 hrs. and counting > > > ________________________________ Message 2 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 05:50:00 AM PST US > From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net> > Subject: Kitfox-List: Need help with Northstar F210 > > > Does anybody know the calibration method for the Northstar F210? I > can't locate my instruction manual. > > Lynn Matteson > Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger > Jabiru 2200, #2062, 767.2 hrs > Countdown to 1000 hrs~233 to go > Sensenich 62"x46" Wood prop > Electroair direct-fire ignition system > Rotec TBI-40 injection > Status: flying > > > ________________________________ Message 3 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 07:19:25 AM PST US > From: "Pete Christensen" <pchristensen10@austin.rr.com> > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Kitfox IV cockpit > > > I weigh 220 and my son in law weighs 208. We fit tightly in my III > with > bubble doors. > > Pete > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Paul Franz - Merlin GT" <paul@eucleides.com> > Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2009 8:17 PM > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Kitfox IV cockpit > > >> <paul@eucleides.com> >> >> On Sun, September 13, 2009 5:17 pm, beberle wrote: >> >>> How wide is a Kitfox IV cockpit? Searched in vain on the web for >>> dimensions. I sat >>> in the Aerotek/Eurofox demo at Oshkosh, pretty comfy cabin at 44". >>> Not >>> sure I could >>> fit comfortably in much smaller... >> >> 11 years ago, the late Miguel Ramirez and I attempted to fly >> together in >> his KF IV. >> While we could twist our bodies a little for shoulder room we could >> not >> both be seated >> and have ample clearance for the control sticks. So, I would say it >> is a >> little too >> tight for two bigger than average guys (> 200 lbs). >> -- >> Paul A. Franz >> Registration/Aircraft - N14UW/Merlin GT >> Engine/Prop - Rotax 914/NSI CAP >> Bellevue WA > > > ________________________________ Message 4 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 10:21:07 AM PST US > Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Need help with Northstar F210 > From: "akflyer" <akflyer_2000@yahoo.com> > > > http://avidfoxflyers.com/index.php?topic=377.0 > > have the manual loaded to my site... no snake oil was injected into > the > manual. > > -------- > DO NOT ARCHIVE > Leonard Perry aka SNAKE > Soldotna AK > Avid &quot;C&quot; / Mk IV > 582 IVO IFA > Full Lotus 1450 > #1 snake oil salesman since 1-22-2009 > > hander outer of humorless darwin awards > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=262967#262967 > > > ________________________________ Message 5 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 11:59:28 AM PST US > Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Kitfox IV cockpit > From: "beberle" <beberle1@bellsouth.net> > > > Thanks for the info! Wish I had a kit to run out to the garage to > measure > :D > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=262992#262992 > > > ________________________________ Message 6 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 01:57:08 PM PST US > Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Kitfox IV cockpit > From: "Av8r3400" <theav8rweb@yahoo.com> > > > I'm 5'-9" and about 230#, my CFI who is doing my transition training > with me > is > 6' and 190#. > > We are not uncomfortable in the plane with the bubble doors. It's > cozy, but > not > uncomfortable. Of course it's not a Cirrus or anything, but it is > functional > with two "real" adults in it. Much better than a C150, IMO. > > -------- > Thanks, > Av8r3400 > > Kitfox Model IV-1200 > 912UL > IVO-IFA > Grove Gear > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=263010#263010 > > > ________________________________ Message 7 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 02:27:22 PM PST US > From: "fox5flyer" <fox5flyer@idealwifi.net> > Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Hi everyone, I'm back with a -4 with NSI > questions.. > > Howard, I scanned the schematic for you and attached. Let me know > if you > can read it OK. If not, I can snail mail you a copy of it. > Deke > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "fox5flyer" <fox5flyer@idealwifi.net> > Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 2:38 PM > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Hi everyone, I'm back with a -4 with NSI > questions.. > > >> >> Give me a few days, Howard. I'm away from home and as soon as I >> return >> I'll take care of it. >> I'm pretty sure the plug wires are a little out of whack. >> Deke Morisse >> Mikado Michigan >> S5/Subaru/CAP 433+ TT >> "If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara >> Desert, in five years there'd be a shortage of sand." >> -- Nobel prize-winning economist Milton Friedman (1912-2006) > > ________________________________ Message 8 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 02:47:45 PM PST US > From: John Reinking <reinkings@comcast.net> > Subject: Kitfox-List: Using small notebook to drive small external > monitor > > > Have any of you taken a handheld GPS and used it to drive a small > external monitor ( like the kind used for backseat displays for dvd > players? Have an old Lowrance 500 and am wondering if it could be > used to display on a larger separate monitor (6-7"). Any > thoughts? Thanks fellas. John/Woodinville, WA > > > ________________________________ Message 9 > _____________________________________ > > > Time: 02:53:37 PM PST US > From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net> > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Need help with Northstar F210 > > > Thanks, Snake....I finally figured out that downloading the manual, > making 6 copies and nailing one each to the interior walls, ceiling > and floor of my hangar was the only way to insure that one would be > handy when I needed it...well, maybe THAT'S a bit of a stretch, but > you get the idea. > > Lynn Matteson > Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger > Jabiru 2200, #2062, 767.2 hrs > Countdown to 1000 hrs~233 to go > Sensenich 62"x46" Wood prop > Electroair direct-fire ignition system > Rotec TBI-40 injection > Status: flying > do not archive > > > On Sep 14, 2009, at 1:18 PM, akflyer wrote: > >> >> http://avidfoxflyers.com/index.php?topic=377.0 >> >> have the manual loaded to my site... no snake oil was injected into >> the manual. >> >> -------- >> DO NOT ARCHIVE >> Leonard Perry aka SNAKE >> Soldotna AK >> Avid &quot;C&quot; / Mk IV >> 582 IVO IFA >> Full Lotus 1450 >> #1 snake oil salesman since 1-22-2009 >> >> hander outer of humorless darwin awards >> >> >> Read this topic online here: >> >> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=262967#262967 >> >> > > > ________________________________ Message 10 > ____________________________________ > > > Time: 03:19:38 PM PST US > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Kitfox IV cockpit > From: sourdostan@aol.com > > Thanks,?Av8r3400, for the information. However, could you and > others on the > list > please tell us? > your name when you post? Would even be nice to know where you're > located. I > think > this would make the list much more interesting for many of us.? > > > Thanks,? > > > Stan Specht > > Denver, Colorado > > Kitfox Model IV Speedster? > > 912ul (1570+ hours) > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Av8r3400 <theav8rweb@yahoo.com> > Sent: Mon, Sep 14, 2009 2:53 pm > Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Kitfox IV cockpit > > > I'm 5'-9" and about 230#, my CFI who is doing my transition training > with me > is > > 6' and 190#. > > We are not uncomfortable in the plane with the bubble doors. It's > cozy, but > not > > uncomfortable. Of course it's not a Cirrus or anything, but it is > functional > with two "real" adults in it. Much better than a C150, IMO. > > -------- > Thanks, > Av8r3400 > > Kitfox Model IV-1200 > 912UL > IVO-IFA > Grove Gear > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=263010#263010 > > > ________________________________ Message 11 > ____________________________________ > > > Time: 03:49:10 PM PST US > From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net> > Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Kitfox IV cockpit > > > Amen! ( do not archive ) > > Lynn Matteson > Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger > Jabiru 2200, #2062, 767.2 hrs > Countdown to 1000 hrs~233 to go > Sensenich 62"x46" Wood prop > Electroair direct-fire ignition system > Rotec TBI-40 injection > Status: flying > do not archive > > > On Sep 14, 2009, at 6:10 PM, sourdostan@aol.com wrote: > >> Thanks, Av8r3400, for the information. However, could you and >> others on the list please tell us >> your name when you post? Would even be nice to know where you're >> located. I think this would make the list much more interesting for >> many of us. >> >> Thanks, >> >> Stan Specht >> Denver, Colorado >> Kitfox Model IV Speedster >> 912ul (1570+ hours) >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Av8r3400 <theav8rweb@yahoo.com> >> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com >> Sent: Mon, Sep 14, 2009 2:53 pm >> Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Kitfox IV cockpit >> >> <theav8rweb@yahoo.com> I'm 5'-9" and about 230#, my CFI who is >> doing my transition training with me is 6' and 190#. We are not >> uncomfortable in the plane with the bubble doors. It's cozy, but >> not uncomfortable. Of course it's not a Cirrus or anything, but it >> is functional with two "real" adults in it. Much better than a >> C150, IMO. -------- Thanks, Av8r3400 Kitfox Model IV-1200 912UL IVO- >> IFA Grove Gear Read this topic online here: http:// >> forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=263010#263010 >> www.matronics.com/contribution _- >> ========================================================== > > > ________________________________ Message 12 > ____________________________________ > > > Time: 06:05:57 PM PST US > Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Using small notebook to drive small external > monitor > From: "wingnut" <wingnut@spamarrest.com> > > > Portable devices don't usually use any kind of standard interface to > talk to > its > own internal display so you can't just tap into it and route it to an > external > display. The maker of the device must build in extra circuitry to > produce > some > kind of standard external signal output. It would be an extra cost > for a > feature > that most people wouldn't use so they don't usually bother. I took a > look > at the specifications for the Lowrance 500 and it doesn't mention > anything > like that so I think you're out of luck. > > -------- > Luis Rodriguez > Model IV 1200 > Rotax 912UL > Flying Weekly > Laurens, SC (34A) > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=263061#263061 > > > ________________________________ Message 13 > ____________________________________ > > > Time: 08:30:07 PM PST US > Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: plastic source, toe in, Mod 3 seat > From: "akflyerbob" <r.wolfejr@worldnet.att.net> > > > Pat, I also bought some of that material and have looked thru > my receipts from hell and cant find the company. > However I have a lot left and could ship you some. > Let me know how much you need. Seems like I bought > 16' or 18' X 14". I split of 3" strips for gap seals. > By the way, got the tires. > Bob > > -------- > Bob Wolfe..Soldotna, Alaska > KF Mod I and III > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=263087#263087 > > > ________________________________ Message 14 > ____________________________________ > > > Time: 08:54:49 PM PST US > From: <jdmcbean@kitfoxaircraft.com> > Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Kitfox Factory Fly-in > > Kitfox Factory Fly-in =93 SUCCESS > Celebrating 25 years of Kitfox !! > > Thank you to all that helped make the Kitfox Fly-in 2009 a great > success > !! > Over 35 aircraft and almost 100 people descended on S66 > > We have the best kit aircraft in our class and it follows with the > class > of the individuals that choose to make the Kitfox their aircraft of > choice. With almost 5000 kits sold worldwide, it is very exciting > when > one gets the opportunity to view one of the earliest Kitfox=99s, > N85DD, to the latest kit, the S7 Super Sport and the latest > development > the Kitfox S-LSA joined by Dan Denney and his =9CSpecial > Effects=9D at the same time in one place. Followed by the > individuals that offer their time and expertise to aid a fellow > Kitfoxer > get back in the air quickly when misfortune strikes. We had > Kitfox=99s fly-in from Southern California, Washington, Utah, > Colorado, Arizona and as far as Austin Texas. All are home safe. > > Local area flights to the Owyhees were abundant and flights into > Smiley > Creek and Sulpher Creek are trips not to be missed. The smoked bbq > food > was great, the live music a pleasure and most important the Kitfox > family had a great time > > Great Fun!! Great Food !! Great Flying !! > > Debra & I thank you for taking the time to join us in celebrating 25 > years of Kitfox !! > > > ________________________________ Message 15 > ____________________________________ > > > Time: 11:46:20 PM PST US > From: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no> > Subject: Kitfox-List: RE: Using small notebook to drive small external > monitor > >> From: John Reinking [reinkings@comcast.net] >> Have any of you taken a handheld GPS and used it to drive a small >> external monitor > > In a perfect world, it could, John. But not in this one. > I collaborate to the PocketFMS software which gives a moving map and > flight > planner > on small devices like PocketPC and carNav with GPS. It's hell! Each > device > has its own way to do things, own operative sytem, Windows Mobile, > Windows > CE, > etc. Everyone is trying to get all the others to adopt their > standard, they > want to be the new rulers of the world. Even here, in Norway, they > have > started > with a pocket TV. It works on a system that is only used by three > providers, > here in Norway. You can't use it anywhere else in the world. > Needless to > say; > I am not buying that stuff. > > Years ago, I asked a good friend who is also the director for JVC > Norway why > the > hi-fi industry can't get around to standard types of cables. He > answered: > Well, > we make money selling hi-fi equimpment but we also like to make money > selling > cables. > > Cheers, > Miche Verheughe > Norway > Kitfox 3 - Jabiru 2200 > Do not archive > > <pre><b><font size=2 color="#000000" face="courier new,courier"> > > > </b></font></pre> > >


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    Time: 12:15:34 PM PST US
    From: "Bob Brennan" <matronics@bob.brennan.name>
    Subject: Re: Registration problems
    Just to complete Rick's assessment here - the only reason to operate an LSA-compliant EAB aircraft is as a Sport Pilot. Sport Pilots are not allowed to fly anything other than LSA certificated aircraft or aircraft that meet LSA requirements. Are you a Sport Pilot Ed? Bob Brennan - N717GB ELSA Repairman, inspection rated 1991 UK Model 2 ELSA Kitfox taildragger Rotax 582 with 3 blade GSC prop Wrightsville Pa _____ From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Weiss Richard Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 2:38 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Registration problems Ed, I'm not sure I completely understand your paperwork problem. Are you dealing with a DAR who has inspected the plane and is going to provide your operating specifications? Or are you referring to the registration for the N number? Is the DAR an FAA person or a designee? I'm just trying to get a better understanding of where you are in the process. TO answer your question, although I'm not 100% certain, this is my understanding of the rules; your aircraft will be registered as an Experimental - Amateur Built (E-AB). You can't register it as a light sport, since it has been previously registered as E-AB. However, you may operate it under the light sport aircraft rules provided it meets the criteria for LSA as you say it does (weight, engine, prop, etc.) I believe that is what you after anyway. I just went through the process last year and that is how my paperwork was completed. I'm sure if I erred, someone on the list will let us know. Happy flying! Rick Weiss N39RW Series V Speedster, 912ULS SkyStar S/N 1 Port Orange, FL On Sep 15, 2009, at 1:56 PM, Ed Gray wrote: I am getting some vague information from the FAA about my Kitfox registration. My application is hung up somewhere because I didn't have the bill of sale from Denney Aerocraft to the original owner in 1990. I have told the FAA guy I want the plane to be "Experimental Light Sport" but the application contained the line "not for light sport aircraft". The plane meets all LSA criteria, so will it be licensed as LSA? Who here is "in the know". Ed Gray, Dallas, KII, 582, ready to fly with new tailwheel spring and Maule compression springs. Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kitfox-List Digest Server Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 1:59 AM Subject: Kitfox-List Digest: 15 Msgs - 09/14/09 * ================================================= Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive ================================================= Today's complete Kitfox-List Digest can also be found in either of the two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes and Message Navigation. 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HTML Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701 <http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapte r> &View=html&Chapter 09-09-14&Archive=Kitfox Text Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 2009-09-14&Archive=Kitfox =============================================== EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive =============================================== ---------------------------------------------------------- Kitfox-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 09/14/09: 15 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:56 AM - Re: Kitfox IV cockpit (Michael Logan) 2. 05:50 AM - Need help with Northstar F210 (Lynn Matteson) 3. 07:19 AM - Re: Kitfox IV cockpit (Pete Christensen) 4. 10:21 AM - Re: Need help with Northstar F210 (akflyer) 5. 11:59 AM - Re: Kitfox IV cockpit (beberle) 6. 01:57 PM - Re: Kitfox IV cockpit (Av8r3400) 7. 02:27 PM - Re: Hi everyone, I'm back with a -4 with NSI questions.. (fox5flyer) 8. 02:47 PM - Using small notebook to drive small external monitor (John Reinking) 9. 02:53 PM - Re: Re: Need help with Northstar F210 (Lynn Matteson) 10. 03:19 PM - Re: Re: Kitfox IV cockpit (sourdostan@aol.com) 11. 03:49 PM - Re: Re: Kitfox IV cockpit (Lynn Matteson) 12. 06:05 PM - Re: Using small notebook to drive small external monitor (wingnut) 13. 08:30 PM - Re: plastic source, toe in, Mod 3 seat (akflyerbob) 14. 08:54 PM - Re: Kitfox Factory Fly-in () 15. 11:46 PM - Re: Using small notebook to drive small external monitor (Michel Verheughe) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:56:12 AM PST US From: "Michael Logan" <michael.logan@cox.net> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Kitfox IV cockpit The secret is for a tall person to fly with a short person, then your shoulders do not get in each others way. :^) Mike Logan -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Guy Buchanan Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 2:04 AM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Kitfox IV cockpit At 06:17 PM 9/13/2009, you wrote: So, I would say it is a little too tight for two bigger than average guys (> 200 lbs). Paul, This made me laugh, because I remembered my first flight in a Kitfox. Our own Lowell Fitt was gracious enough to offer his aircraft and flight instructor to me, a stranger, for an introductory flight. (Thanks again Lowell. It proved to be the start of more than one great friendship.) I'm about 6' and weighed about 200#. The instructor weighted about 225#. It was no problem for Lowell's Fox with the 912, but our comfort level was pretty low. I think we flew with left shoulders back and right shoulders forward. That said I know many who fly very long distances with two in their IV. (Steve Kellender just flew with a passenger from Phoenix to Homedale and back.) Guy Buchanan San Diego, CA K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 400 hrs. and counting ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:50:00 AM PST US From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net> Subject: Kitfox-List: Need help with Northstar F210 Does anybody know the calibration method for the Northstar F210? I can't locate my instruction manual. Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger Jabiru 2200, #2062, 767.2 hrs Countdown to 1000 hrs~233 to go Sensenich 62"x46" Wood prop Electroair direct-fire ignition system Rotec TBI-40 injection Status: flying ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:19:25 AM PST US From: "Pete Christensen" <pchristensen10@austin.rr.com> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Kitfox IV cockpit I weigh 220 and my son in law weighs 208. We fit tightly in my III with bubble doors. Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Franz - Merlin GT" <paul@eucleides.com> Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2009 8:17 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Kitfox IV cockpit <paul@eucleides.com> On Sun, September 13, 2009 5:17 pm, beberle wrote: How wide is a Kitfox IV cockpit? Searched in vain on the web for dimensions. I sat in the Aerotek/Eurofox demo at Oshkosh, pretty comfy cabin at 44". Not sure I could fit comfortably in much smaller... 11 years ago, the late Miguel Ramirez and I attempted to fly together in his KF IV. While we could twist our bodies a little for shoulder room we could not both be seated and have ample clearance for the control sticks. So, I would say it is a little too tight for two bigger than average guys (> 200 lbs). -- Paul A. Franz Registration/Aircraft - N14UW/Merlin GT Engine/Prop - Rotax 914/NSI CAP Bellevue WA ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:21:07 AM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Need help with Northstar F210 From: "akflyer" <akflyer_2000@yahoo.com> http://avidfoxflyers.com/index.php?topic=377.0 have the manual loaded to my site... no snake oil was injected into the manual. -------- DO NOT ARCHIVE Leonard Perry aka SNAKE Soldotna AK Avid &quot;C&quot; / Mk IV 582 IVO IFA Full Lotus 1450 #1 snake oil salesman since 1-22-2009 hander outer of humorless darwin awards Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=262967#262967 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:59:28 AM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Kitfox IV cockpit From: "beberle" <beberle1@bellsouth.net> Thanks for the info! Wish I had a kit to run out to the garage to measure :D Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=262992#262992 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 01:57:08 PM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Kitfox IV cockpit From: "Av8r3400" <theav8rweb@yahoo.com> I'm 5'-9" and about 230#, my CFI who is doing my transition training with me is 6' and 190#. We are not uncomfortable in the plane with the bubble doors. It's cozy, but not uncomfortable. Of course it's not a Cirrus or anything, but it is functional with two "real" adults in it. Much better than a C150, IMO. -------- Thanks, Av8r3400 Kitfox Model IV-1200 912UL IVO-IFA Grove Gear Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=263010#263010 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 02:27:22 PM PST US From: "fox5flyer" <fox5flyer@idealwifi.net> Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Hi everyone, I'm back with a -4 with NSI questions.. Howard, I scanned the schematic for you and attached. Let me know if you can read it OK. If not, I can snail mail you a copy of it. Deke ----- Original Message ----- From: "fox5flyer" <fox5flyer@idealwifi.net> Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 2:38 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Hi everyone, I'm back with a -4 with NSI questions.. Give me a few days, Howard. I'm away from home and as soon as I return I'll take care of it. I'm pretty sure the plug wires are a little out of whack. Deke Morisse Mikado Michigan S5/Subaru/CAP 433+ TT "If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara Desert, in five years there'd be a shortage of sand." -- Nobel prize-winning economist Milton Friedman (1912-2006) ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 02:47:45 PM PST US From: John Reinking <reinkings@comcast.net> Subject: Kitfox-List: Using small notebook to drive small external monitor Have any of you taken a handheld GPS and used it to drive a small external monitor ( like the kind used for backseat displays for dvd players? Have an old Lowrance 500 and am wondering if it could be used to display on a larger separate monitor (6-7"). Any thoughts? Thanks fellas. John/Woodinville, WA ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 02:53:37 PM PST US From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Need help with Northstar F210 Thanks, Snake....I finally figured out that downloading the manual, making 6 copies and nailing one each to the interior walls, ceiling and floor of my hangar was the only way to insure that one would be handy when I needed it...well, maybe THAT'S a bit of a stretch, but you get the idea. Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger Jabiru 2200, #2062, 767.2 hrs Countdown to 1000 hrs~233 to go Sensenich 62"x46" Wood prop Electroair direct-fire ignition system Rotec TBI-40 injection Status: flying do not archive On Sep 14, 2009, at 1:18 PM, akflyer wrote: http://avidfoxflyers.com/index.php?topic=377.0 have the manual loaded to my site... no snake oil was injected into the manual. -------- DO NOT ARCHIVE Leonard Perry aka SNAKE Soldotna AK Avid &quot;C&quot; / Mk IV 582 IVO IFA Full Lotus 1450 #1 snake oil salesman since 1-22-2009 hander outer of humorless darwin awards Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=262967#262967 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 03:19:38 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Kitfox IV cockpit From: sourdostan@aol.com Thanks,?Av8r3400, for the information. However, could you and others on the list please tell us? your name when you post? Would even be nice to know where you're located. I think this would make the list much more interesting for many of us.? Thanks,? Stan Specht Denver, Colorado Kitfox Model IV Speedster? 912ul (1570+ hours) -----Original Message----- From: Av8r3400 <theav8rweb@yahoo.com> Sent: Mon, Sep 14, 2009 2:53 pm Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Kitfox IV cockpit I'm 5'-9" and about 230#, my CFI who is doing my transition training with me is 6' and 190#. We are not uncomfortable in the plane with the bubble doors. It's cozy, but not uncomfortable. Of course it's not a Cirrus or anything, but it is functional with two "real" adults in it. Much better than a C150, IMO. -------- Thanks, Av8r3400 Kitfox Model IV-1200 912UL IVO-IFA Grove Gear Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=263010#263010 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 03:49:10 PM PST US From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Kitfox IV cockpit Amen! ( do not archive ) Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger Jabiru 2200, #2062, 767.2 hrs Countdown to 1000 hrs~233 to go Sensenich 62"x46" Wood prop Electroair direct-fire ignition system Rotec TBI-40 injection Status: flying do not archive On Sep 14, 2009, at 6:10 PM, sourdostan@aol.com wrote: Thanks, Av8r3400, for the information. However, could you and others on the list please tell us your name when you post? Would even be nice to know where you're located. I think this would make the list much more interesting for many of us. Thanks, Stan Specht Denver, Colorado Kitfox Model IV Speedster 912ul (1570+ hours) -----Original Message----- From: Av8r3400 <theav8rweb@yahoo.com> Sent: Mon, Sep 14, 2009 2:53 pm Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Kitfox IV cockpit <theav8rweb@yahoo.com> I'm 5'-9" and about 230#, my CFI who is doing my transition training with me is 6' and 190#. We are not uncomfortable in the plane with the bubble doors. It's cozy, but not uncomfortable. Of course it's not a Cirrus or anything, but it is functional with two "real" adults in it. Much better than a C150, IMO. -------- Thanks, Av8r3400 Kitfox Model IV-1200 912UL IVO- IFA Grove Gear Read this topic online here: http:// forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=263010#263010 www.matronics.com/contribution _- ========================================================== ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 06:05:57 PM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Using small notebook to drive small external monitor From: "wingnut" <wingnut@spamarrest.com> Portable devices don't usually use any kind of standard interface to talk to its own internal display so you can't just tap into it and route it to an external display. The maker of the device must build in extra circuitry to produce some kind of standard external signal output. It would be an extra cost for a feature that most people wouldn't use so they don't usually bother. I took a look at the specifications for the Lowrance 500 and it doesn't mention anything like that so I think you're out of luck. -------- Luis Rodriguez Model IV 1200 Rotax 912UL Flying Weekly Laurens, SC (34A) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=263061#263061 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 08:30:07 PM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: plastic source, toe in, Mod 3 seat From: "akflyerbob" <r.wolfejr@worldnet.att.net> Pat, I also bought some of that material and have looked thru my receipts from hell and cant find the company. However I have a lot left and could ship you some. Let me know how much you need. Seems like I bought 16' or 18' X 14". I split of 3" strips for gap seals. By the way, got the tires. Bob -------- Bob Wolfe..Soldotna, Alaska KF Mod I and III Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=263087#263087 ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 08:54:49 PM PST US From: <jdmcbean@kitfoxaircraft.com> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Kitfox Factory Fly-in Kitfox Factory Fly-in =93 SUCCESS Celebrating 25 years of Kitfox !! Thank you to all that helped make the Kitfox Fly-in 2009 a great success !! Over 35 aircraft and almost 100 people descended on S66 We have the best kit aircraft in our class and it follows with the class of the individuals that choose to make the Kitfox their aircraft of choice. With almost 5000 kits sold worldwide, it is very exciting when one gets the opportunity to view one of the earliest Kitfox=99s, N85DD, to the latest kit, the S7 Super Sport and the latest development the Kitfox S-LSA joined by Dan Denney and his =9CSpecial Effects=9D at the same time in one place. Followed by the individuals that offer their time and expertise to aid a fellow Kitfoxer get back in the air quickly when misfortune strikes. We had Kitfox=99s fly-in from Southern California, Washington, Utah, Colorado, Arizona and as far as Austin Texas. All are home safe. Local area flights to the Owyhees were abundant and flights into Smiley Creek and Sulpher Creek are trips not to be missed. The smoked bbq food was great, the live music a pleasure and most important the Kitfox family had a great time Great Fun!! Great Food !! Great Flying !! Debra & I thank you for taking the time to join us in celebrating 25 years of Kitfox !! ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 11:46:20 PM PST US From: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no> Subject: Kitfox-List: RE: Using small notebook to drive small external monitor From: John Reinking [reinkings@comcast.net] Have any of you taken a handheld GPS and used it to drive a small external monitor In a perfect world, it could, John. But not in this one. I collaborate to the PocketFMS software which gives a moving map and flight planner on small devices like PocketPC and carNav with GPS. It's hell! Each device has its own way to do things, own operative sytem, Windows Mobile, Windows CE, etc. Everyone is trying to get all the others to adopt their standard, they want to be the new rulers of the world. Even here, in Norway, they have started with a pocket TV. It works on a system that is only used by three providers, here in Norway. You can't use it anywhere else in the world. Needless to say; I am not buying that stuff. Years ago, I asked a good friend who is also the director for JVC Norway why the hi-fi industry can't get around to standard types of cables. He answered: Well, we make money selling hi-fi equimpment but we also like to make money selling cables. Cheers, Miche Verheughe Norway Kitfox 3 - Jabiru 2200 Do not archive <pre><b><font size=2 color="#000000" face="courier new,courier"> </b></font></pre>========================================================== =========================================================================== =========sp; &============================================ =


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    From: "jdmcbean" <jdmcbean@kitfoxaircraft.com>
    Subject: RE: Kitfox-List Digest: 15 Msgs - 09/14/09
    Ed, Need more info. If this is the first registration and you are the builder it will be registered E-AB. You can no longer register E-LSA. Sounds like you purchased the kit from an individual that purchased it from Denney Aerocraft. If that is the case then visit the our web and click the Bill of Sale link http://www.kitfoxaircraft.com/FAQ-Tech.htm There are instructions and a letter for registering your aircraft. If the configuration of the aircraft meets the definition of Light Sport Aircraft than it can be operated by a Sport Pilot. Please feel free to contact us direct if we can be any help. Fly Safe !! John & Debra McBean Ph 208.337.5111 www.kitfoxaircraft.com "The Sky is not the Limit... It's a Playground" -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Ed Gray Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 11:56 AM Subject: Kitfox-List: RE: Kitfox-List Digest: 15 Msgs - 09/14/09 I am getting some vague information from the FAA about my Kitfox registration. My application is hung up somewhere because I didn't have the bill of sale from Denney Aerocraft to the original owner in 1990. I have told the FAA guy I want the plane to be "Experimental Light Sport" but the application contained the line "not for light sport aircraft". The plane meets all LSA criteria, so will it be licensed as LSA? Who here is "in the know". Ed Gray, Dallas, KII, 582, ready to fly with new tailwheel spring and Maule compression springs. Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kitfox-List Digest Server Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 1:59 AM Subject: Kitfox-List Digest: 15 Msgs - 09/14/09 * ================================================= Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive ================================================= Today's complete Kitfox-List Digest can also be found in either of the two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version of the Kitfox-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor such as Notepad or with a web browser. HTML Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Chapter 09-09-14&Archive=Kitfox Text Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Chapter 2009-09-14&Archive=Kitfox =============================================== EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive =============================================== ---------------------------------------------------------- Kitfox-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 09/14/09: 15 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:56 AM - Re: Kitfox IV cockpit (Michael Logan) 2. 05:50 AM - Need help with Northstar F210 (Lynn Matteson) 3. 07:19 AM - Re: Kitfox IV cockpit (Pete Christensen) 4. 10:21 AM - Re: Need help with Northstar F210 (akflyer) 5. 11:59 AM - Re: Kitfox IV cockpit (beberle) 6. 01:57 PM - Re: Kitfox IV cockpit (Av8r3400) 7. 02:27 PM - Re: Hi everyone, I'm back with a -4 with NSI questions.. (fox5flyer) 8. 02:47 PM - Using small notebook to drive small external monitor (John Reinking) 9. 02:53 PM - Re: Re: Need help with Northstar F210 (Lynn Matteson) 10. 03:19 PM - Re: Re: Kitfox IV cockpit (sourdostan@aol.com) 11. 03:49 PM - Re: Re: Kitfox IV cockpit (Lynn Matteson) 12. 06:05 PM - Re: Using small notebook to drive small external monitor (wingnut) 13. 08:30 PM - Re: plastic source, toe in, Mod 3 seat (akflyerbob) 14. 08:54 PM - Re: Kitfox Factory Fly-in () 15. 11:46 PM - Re: Using small notebook to drive small external monitor (Michel Verheughe) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:56:12 AM PST US From: "Michael Logan" <michael.logan@cox.net> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Kitfox IV cockpit The secret is for a tall person to fly with a short person, then your shoulders do not get in each others way. :^) Mike Logan -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Guy Buchanan Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 2:04 AM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Kitfox IV cockpit At 06:17 PM 9/13/2009, you wrote: >So, I would say it is a little too >tight for two bigger than average guys (> 200 lbs). Paul, This made me laugh, because I remembered my first flight in a Kitfox. Our own Lowell Fitt was gracious enough to offer his aircraft and flight instructor to me, a stranger, for an introductory flight. (Thanks again Lowell. It proved to be the start of more than one great friendship.) I'm about 6' and weighed about 200#. The instructor weighted about 225#. It was no problem for Lowell's Fox with the 912, but our comfort level was pretty low. I think we flew with left shoulders back and right shoulders forward. That said I know many who fly very long distances with two in their IV. (Steve Kellender just flew with a passenger from Phoenix to Homedale and back.) Guy Buchanan San Diego, CA K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 400 hrs. and counting ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:50:00 AM PST US From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net> Subject: Kitfox-List: Need help with Northstar F210 Does anybody know the calibration method for the Northstar F210? I can't locate my instruction manual. Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger Jabiru 2200, #2062, 767.2 hrs Countdown to 1000 hrs~233 to go Sensenich 62"x46" Wood prop Electroair direct-fire ignition system Rotec TBI-40 injection Status: flying ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:19:25 AM PST US From: "Pete Christensen" <pchristensen10@austin.rr.com> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Kitfox IV cockpit I weigh 220 and my son in law weighs 208. We fit tightly in my III with bubble doors. Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Franz - Merlin GT" <paul@eucleides.com> Sent: Sunday, September 13, 2009 8:17 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Kitfox IV cockpit > <paul@eucleides.com> > > On Sun, September 13, 2009 5:17 pm, beberle wrote: > >> How wide is a Kitfox IV cockpit? Searched in vain on the web for >> dimensions. I sat >> in the Aerotek/Eurofox demo at Oshkosh, pretty comfy cabin at 44". Not >> sure I could >> fit comfortably in much smaller... > > 11 years ago, the late Miguel Ramirez and I attempted to fly together in > his KF IV. > While we could twist our bodies a little for shoulder room we could not > both be seated > and have ample clearance for the control sticks. So, I would say it is a > little too > tight for two bigger than average guys (> 200 lbs). > -- > Paul A. Franz > Registration/Aircraft - N14UW/Merlin GT > Engine/Prop - Rotax 914/NSI CAP > Bellevue WA ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:21:07 AM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Need help with Northstar F210 From: "akflyer" <akflyer_2000@yahoo.com> http://avidfoxflyers.com/index.php?topic=377.0 have the manual loaded to my site... no snake oil was injected into the manual. -------- DO NOT ARCHIVE Leonard Perry aka SNAKE Soldotna AK Avid &quot;C&quot; / Mk IV 582 IVO IFA Full Lotus 1450 #1 snake oil salesman since 1-22-2009 hander outer of humorless darwin awards Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=262967#262967 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:59:28 AM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Kitfox IV cockpit From: "beberle" <beberle1@bellsouth.net> Thanks for the info! Wish I had a kit to run out to the garage to measure :D Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=262992#262992 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 01:57:08 PM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Kitfox IV cockpit From: "Av8r3400" <theav8rweb@yahoo.com> I'm 5'-9" and about 230#, my CFI who is doing my transition training with me is 6' and 190#. We are not uncomfortable in the plane with the bubble doors. It's cozy, but not uncomfortable. Of course it's not a Cirrus or anything, but it is functional with two "real" adults in it. Much better than a C150, IMO. -------- Thanks, Av8r3400 Kitfox Model IV-1200 912UL IVO-IFA Grove Gear Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=263010#263010 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 02:27:22 PM PST US From: "fox5flyer" <fox5flyer@idealwifi.net> Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Hi everyone, I'm back with a -4 with NSI questions.. Howard, I scanned the schematic for you and attached. Let me know if you can read it OK. If not, I can snail mail you a copy of it. Deke ----- Original Message ----- From: "fox5flyer" <fox5flyer@idealwifi.net> Sent: Saturday, September 12, 2009 2:38 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Hi everyone, I'm back with a -4 with NSI questions.. > > Give me a few days, Howard. I'm away from home and as soon as I return > I'll take care of it. > I'm pretty sure the plug wires are a little out of whack. > Deke Morisse > Mikado Michigan > S5/Subaru/CAP 433+ TT > "If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara > Desert, in five years there'd be a shortage of sand." > -- Nobel prize-winning economist Milton Friedman (1912-2006) ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 02:47:45 PM PST US From: John Reinking <reinkings@comcast.net> Subject: Kitfox-List: Using small notebook to drive small external monitor Have any of you taken a handheld GPS and used it to drive a small external monitor ( like the kind used for backseat displays for dvd players? Have an old Lowrance 500 and am wondering if it could be used to display on a larger separate monitor (6-7"). Any thoughts? Thanks fellas. John/Woodinville, WA ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 02:53:37 PM PST US From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Need help with Northstar F210 Thanks, Snake....I finally figured out that downloading the manual, making 6 copies and nailing one each to the interior walls, ceiling and floor of my hangar was the only way to insure that one would be handy when I needed it...well, maybe THAT'S a bit of a stretch, but you get the idea. Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger Jabiru 2200, #2062, 767.2 hrs Countdown to 1000 hrs~233 to go Sensenich 62"x46" Wood prop Electroair direct-fire ignition system Rotec TBI-40 injection Status: flying do not archive On Sep 14, 2009, at 1:18 PM, akflyer wrote: > > http://avidfoxflyers.com/index.php?topic=377.0 > > have the manual loaded to my site... no snake oil was injected into > the manual. > > -------- > DO NOT ARCHIVE > Leonard Perry aka SNAKE > Soldotna AK > Avid &quot;C&quot; / Mk IV > 582 IVO IFA > Full Lotus 1450 > #1 snake oil salesman since 1-22-2009 > > hander outer of humorless darwin awards > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=262967#262967 > > ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 03:19:38 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Kitfox IV cockpit From: sourdostan@aol.com Thanks,?Av8r3400, for the information. However, could you and others on the list please tell us? your name when you post? Would even be nice to know where you're located. I think this would make the list much more interesting for many of us.? Thanks,? Stan Specht Denver, Colorado Kitfox Model IV Speedster? 912ul (1570+ hours) -----Original Message----- From: Av8r3400 <theav8rweb@yahoo.com> Sent: Mon, Sep 14, 2009 2:53 pm Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Kitfox IV cockpit I'm 5'-9" and about 230#, my CFI who is doing my transition training with me is 6' and 190#. We are not uncomfortable in the plane with the bubble doors. It's cozy, but not uncomfortable. Of course it's not a Cirrus or anything, but it is functional with two "real" adults in it. Much better than a C150, IMO. -------- Thanks, Av8r3400 Kitfox Model IV-1200 912UL IVO-IFA Grove Gear Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=263010#263010 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 03:49:10 PM PST US From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Kitfox IV cockpit Amen! ( do not archive ) Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger Jabiru 2200, #2062, 767.2 hrs Countdown to 1000 hrs~233 to go Sensenich 62"x46" Wood prop Electroair direct-fire ignition system Rotec TBI-40 injection Status: flying do not archive On Sep 14, 2009, at 6:10 PM, sourdostan@aol.com wrote: > Thanks, Av8r3400, for the information. However, could you and > others on the list please tell us > your name when you post? Would even be nice to know where you're > located. I think this would make the list much more interesting for > many of us. > > Thanks, > > Stan Specht > Denver, Colorado > Kitfox Model IV Speedster > 912ul (1570+ hours) > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Av8r3400 <theav8rweb@yahoo.com> > To: kitfox-list@matronics.com > Sent: Mon, Sep 14, 2009 2:53 pm > Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Kitfox IV cockpit > > <theav8rweb@yahoo.com> I'm 5'-9" and about 230#, my CFI who is > doing my transition training with me is 6' and 190#. We are not > uncomfortable in the plane with the bubble doors. It's cozy, but > not uncomfortable. Of course it's not a Cirrus or anything, but it > is functional with two "real" adults in it. Much better than a > C150, IMO. -------- Thanks, Av8r3400 Kitfox Model IV-1200 912UL IVO- > IFA Grove Gear Read this topic online here: http:// > forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=263010#263010 > www.matronics.com/contribution _- > ========================================================== ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 06:05:57 PM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Using small notebook to drive small external monitor From: "wingnut" <wingnut@spamarrest.com> Portable devices don't usually use any kind of standard interface to talk to its own internal display so you can't just tap into it and route it to an external display. The maker of the device must build in extra circuitry to produce some kind of standard external signal output. It would be an extra cost for a feature that most people wouldn't use so they don't usually bother. I took a look at the specifications for the Lowrance 500 and it doesn't mention anything like that so I think you're out of luck. -------- Luis Rodriguez Model IV 1200 Rotax 912UL Flying Weekly Laurens, SC (34A) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=263061#263061 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 08:30:07 PM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: plastic source, toe in, Mod 3 seat From: "akflyerbob" <r.wolfejr@worldnet.att.net> Pat, I also bought some of that material and have looked thru my receipts from hell and cant find the company. However I have a lot left and could ship you some. Let me know how much you need. Seems like I bought 16' or 18' X 14". I split of 3" strips for gap seals. By the way, got the tires. Bob -------- Bob Wolfe..Soldotna, Alaska KF Mod I and III Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=263087#263087 ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 08:54:49 PM PST US From: <jdmcbean@kitfoxaircraft.com> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Kitfox Factory Fly-in Kitfox Factory Fly-in =93 SUCCESS Celebrating 25 years of Kitfox !! Thank you to all that helped make the Kitfox Fly-in 2009 a great success !! Over 35 aircraft and almost 100 people descended on S66 We have the best kit aircraft in our class and it follows with the class of the individuals that choose to make the Kitfox their aircraft of choice. With almost 5000 kits sold worldwide, it is very exciting when one gets the opportunity to view one of the earliest Kitfox=99s, N85DD, to the latest kit, the S7 Super Sport and the latest development the Kitfox S-LSA joined by Dan Denney and his =9CSpecial Effects=9D at the same time in one place. Followed by the individuals that offer their time and expertise to aid a fellow Kitfoxer get back in the air quickly when misfortune strikes. We had Kitfox=99s fly-in from Southern California, Washington, Utah, Colorado, Arizona and as far as Austin Texas. All are home safe. Local area flights to the Owyhees were abundant and flights into Smiley Creek and Sulpher Creek are trips not to be missed. The smoked bbq food was great, the live music a pleasure and most important the Kitfox family had a great time Great Fun!! Great Food !! Great Flying !! Debra & I thank you for taking the time to join us in celebrating 25 years of Kitfox !! ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 11:46:20 PM PST US From: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no> Subject: Kitfox-List: RE: Using small notebook to drive small external monitor > From: John Reinking [reinkings@comcast.net] > Have any of you taken a handheld GPS and used it to drive a small > external monitor In a perfect world, it could, John. But not in this one. I collaborate to the PocketFMS software which gives a moving map and flight planner on small devices like PocketPC and carNav with GPS. It's hell! Each device has its own way to do things, own operative sytem, Windows Mobile, Windows CE, etc. Everyone is trying to get all the others to adopt their standard, they want to be the new rulers of the world. Even here, in Norway, they have started with a pocket TV. It works on a system that is only used by three providers, here in Norway. You can't use it anywhere else in the world. Needless to say; I am not buying that stuff. Years ago, I asked a good friend who is also the director for JVC Norway why the hi-fi industry can't get around to standard types of cables. He answered: Well, we make money selling hi-fi equimpment but we also like to make money selling cables. Cheers, Miche Verheughe Norway Kitfox 3 - Jabiru 2200 Do not archive <pre><b><font size=2 color="#000000" face="courier new,courier"> </b></font></pre>


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    Time: 04:26:16 PM PST US
    From: John Reinking <reinkings@comcast.net>
    Subject: Re: Using small notebook to drive small external monitor
    Yup looks that way. Just have to take a different tack.


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    Time: 04:51:09 PM PST US
    From: ron schick <roncarolnikko@hotmail.com>
    Subject: Re: Registration problems
    The problem you stated has nothing to do with light sport. The new rule st ates that to REGISTER an airplane you must have a paper trail to the bill o f sale from the manufacturer. Not about airworthiness certification=2C but registration of the plane. There is another box on the application that s ays "assembled from miscelanious parts". That one requires no bill of sale . You may have a problem having "checked the wrong box". From: matronics@bob.brennan.name Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Re: Registration problems Just to complete Rick's assessment here - the only reason to operate an LSA -compliant EAB aircraft is as a Sport Pilot. Sport Pilots are not allowed t o fly anything other than LSA certificated aircraft or aircraft that meet L SA requirements. Are you a Sport Pilot Ed? Bob Brennan - N717GB ELSA Repairman=2C inspection rated 1991 UK Model 2 ELSA Kitfox taildragger Rotax 582 with 3 blade GSC prop Wrightsville Pa From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-serv er@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Weiss Richard Sent: Tuesday=2C September 15=2C 2009 2:38 PM Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Registration problems Ed=2C I'm not sure I completely understand your paperwork problem. Are you deali ng with a DAR who has inspected the plane and is going to provide your oper ating specifications? Or are you referring to the registration for the N n umber? Is the DAR an FAA person or a designee? I'm just trying to get a b etter understanding of where you are in the process. TO answer your question=2C although I'm not 100% certain=2C this is my unde rstanding of the rules=3B your aircraft will be registered as an Experiment al - Amateur Built (E-AB). You can't register it as a light sport=2C since it has been previously registered as E-AB. However=2C you may operate it u nder the light sport aircraft rules provided it meets the criteria for LSA as you say it does (weight=2C engine=2C prop=2C etc.) I believe that is wh at you after anyway. I just went through the process last year and that is how my paperwork was completed. I'm sure if I erred=2C someone on the list will let us know. Happy flying! Rick Weiss N39RW Series V Speedster=2C 912ULS SkyStar S/N 1 Port Orange=2C FL On Sep 15=2C 2009=2C at 1:56 PM=2C Ed Gray wrote: I am getting some vague information from the FAA about my Kitfox registration. My application is hung up somewhere because I didn't have th e bill of sale from Denney Aerocraft to the original owner in 1990. I have told the FAA guy I want the plane to be "Experimental Light Sport" but the application contained the line "not for light sport aircraft". The plane meets all LSA criteria=2C so will it be licensed as LSA? Who here is "in t he know". Ed Gray=2C Dallas=2C KII=2C 582=2C ready to fly with new tailwheel spring a nd Maule compression springs. Do not archive -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Kitfox-List Digest Server Sent: Tuesday=2C September 15=2C 2009 1:59 AM Subject: Kitfox-List Digest: 15 Msgs - 09/14/09 * ======================== Online Versions of Today's List Digest Archive ======================== Today's complete Kitfox-List Digest can also be found in either of the two Web Links listed below. The .html file includes the Digest formatted in HTML for viewing with a web browser and features Hyperlinked Indexes and Message Navigation. The .txt file includes the plain ASCII version of the Kitfox-List Digest and can be viewed with a generic text editor such as Notepad or with a web browser. HTML Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=html&Ch apter 09-09-14&Archive=Kitfox Text Version: http://www.matronics.com/digest/digestview.php?Style=82701&View=txt&Cha pter 2009-09-14&Archive=Kitfox ====================== EMail Version of Today's List Digest Archive ====================== ---------------------------------------------------------- Kitfox-List Digest Archive --- Total Messages Posted Mon 09/14/09: 15 ---------------------------------------------------------- Today's Message Index: ---------------------- 1. 02:56 AM - Re: Kitfox IV cockpit (Michael Logan) 2. 05:50 AM - Need help with Northstar F210 (Lynn Matteson) 3. 07:19 AM - Re: Kitfox IV cockpit (Pete Christensen) 4. 10:21 AM - Re: Need help with Northstar F210 (akflyer) 5. 11:59 AM - Re: Kitfox IV cockpit (beberle) 6. 01:57 PM - Re: Kitfox IV cockpit (Av8r3400) 7. 02:27 PM - Re: Hi everyone=2C I'm back with a -4 with NSI questions. . (fox5flyer) 8. 02:47 PM - Using small notebook to drive small external monitor (John Reinking) 9. 02:53 PM - Re: Re: Need help with Northstar F210 (Lynn Matteson) 10. 03:19 PM - Re: Re: Kitfox IV cockpit (sourdostan@aol.com) 11. 03:49 PM - Re: Re: Kitfox IV cockpit (Lynn Matteson) 12. 06:05 PM - Re: Using small notebook to drive small external monitor (wingnut) 13. 08:30 PM - Re: plastic source=2C toe in=2C Mod 3 seat (akflyerbob) 14. 08:54 PM - Re: Kitfox Factory Fly-in () 15. 11:46 PM - Re: Using small notebook to drive small external monitor (Michel Verheughe) ________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________ Time: 02:56:12 AM PST US From: "Michael Logan" <michael.logan@cox.net> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Kitfox IV cockpit The secret is for a tall person to fly with a short person=2C then your shoulders do not get in each others way. :^) Mike Logan -----Original Message----- From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Guy Buchanan Sent: Monday=2C September 14=2C 2009 2:04 AM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Kitfox IV cockpit At 06:17 PM 9/13/2009=2C you wrote: So=2C I would say it is a little too tight for two bigger than average guys (> 200 lbs). Paul=2C This made me laugh=2C because I remembered my first flight in a Kitfox. Our own Lowell Fitt was gracious enough to offer his aircraft and flight instructor to me=2C a stranger=2C for an introductory flight. (Thanks again Lowell. It proved to be the start of more than one great friendship.) I'm about 6' and weighed about 200#. The instructor weighted about 225#. It was no problem for Lowell's Fox with the 912=2C but our comfort level was pretty low. I think we flew with left shoulders back and right shoulders forward. That said I know many who fly very long distances with two in their IV. (Steve Kellender just flew with a passenger from Phoenix to Homedale and back.) Guy Buchanan San Diego=2C CA K-IV 1200 / 582-C / Warp / 400 hrs. and counting ________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________ Time: 05:50:00 AM PST US From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net> Subject: Kitfox-List: Need help with Northstar F210 Does anybody know the calibration method for the Northstar F210? I can't locate my instruction manual. Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster=2C taildragger Jabiru 2200=2C #2062=2C 767.2 hrs Countdown to 1000 hrs~233 to go Sensenich 62"x46" Wood prop Electroair direct-fire ignition system Rotec TBI-40 injection Status: flying ________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________ Time: 07:19:25 AM PST US From: "Pete Christensen" <pchristensen10@austin.rr.com> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Kitfox IV cockpit I weigh 220 and my son in law weighs 208. We fit tightly in my III with bubble doors. Pete ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Franz - Merlin GT" <paul@eucleides.com> Sent: Sunday=2C September 13=2C 2009 8:17 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Kitfox IV cockpit <paul@eucleides.com> On Sun=2C September 13=2C 2009 5:17 pm=2C beberle wrote: How wide is a Kitfox IV cockpit? Searched in vain on the web for dimensions. I sat in the Aerotek/Eurofox demo at Oshkosh=2C pretty comfy cabin at 44". Not sure I could fit comfortably in much smaller... 11 years ago=2C the late Miguel Ramirez and I attempted to fly together in his KF IV. While we could twist our bodies a little for shoulder room we could not both be seated and have ample clearance for the control sticks. So=2C I would say it is a little too tight for two bigger than average guys (> 200 lbs). -- Paul A. Franz Registration/Aircraft - N14UW/Merlin GT Engine/Prop - Rotax 914/NSI CAP Bellevue WA ________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________ Time: 10:21:07 AM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Need help with Northstar F210 From: "akflyer" <akflyer_2000@yahoo.com> http://avidfoxflyers.com/index.php?topic=377.0 have the manual loaded to my site... no snake oil was injected into the manual. -------- DO NOT ARCHIVE Leonard Perry aka SNAKE Soldotna AK Avid &quot=3BC&quot=3B / Mk IV 582 IVO IFA Full Lotus 1450 #1 snake oil salesman since 1-22-2009 hander outer of humorless darwin awards Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=262967#262967 ________________________________ Message 5 _____________________________________ Time: 11:59:28 AM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Kitfox IV cockpit From: "beberle" <beberle1@bellsouth.net> Thanks for the info! Wish I had a kit to run out to the garage to measure :D Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=262992#262992 ________________________________ Message 6 _____________________________________ Time: 01:57:08 PM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Kitfox IV cockpit From: "Av8r3400" <theav8rweb@yahoo.com> I'm 5'-9" and about 230#=2C my CFI who is doing my transition training with me is 6' and 190#. We are not uncomfortable in the plane with the bubble doors. It's cozy=2C but not uncomfortable. Of course it's not a Cirrus or anything=2C but it is functional with two "real" adults in it. Much better than a C150=2C IMO. -------- Thanks=2C Av8r3400 Kitfox Model IV-1200 912UL IVO-IFA Grove Gear Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=263010#263010 ________________________________ Message 7 _____________________________________ Time: 02:27:22 PM PST US From: "fox5flyer" <fox5flyer@idealwifi.net> Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Hi everyone=2C I'm back with a -4 with NSI questions.. Howard=2C I scanned the schematic for you and attached. Let me know if you can read it OK. If not=2C I can snail mail you a copy of it. Deke ----- Original Message ----- From: "fox5flyer" <fox5flyer@idealwifi.net> Sent: Saturday=2C September 12=2C 2009 2:38 PM Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Hi everyone=2C I'm back with a -4 with NSI questions.. Give me a few days=2C Howard. I'm away from home and as soon as I return I'll take care of it. I'm pretty sure the plug wires are a little out of whack. Deke Morisse Mikado Michigan S5/Subaru/CAP 433+ TT "If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara Desert=2C in five years there'd be a shortage of sand." -- Nobel prize-winning economist Milton Friedman (1912-2006) ________________________________ Message 8 _____________________________________ Time: 02:47:45 PM PST US From: John Reinking <reinkings@comcast.net> Subject: Kitfox-List: Using small notebook to drive small external monitor Have any of you taken a handheld GPS and used it to drive a small external monitor ( like the kind used for backseat displays for dvd players? Have an old Lowrance 500 and am wondering if it could be used to display on a larger separate monitor (6-7"). Any thoughts? Thanks fellas. John/Woodinville=2C WA ________________________________ Message 9 _____________________________________ Time: 02:53:37 PM PST US From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Need help with Northstar F210 Thanks=2C Snake....I finally figured out that downloading the manual=2C making 6 copies and nailing one each to the interior walls=2C ceiling and floor of my hangar was the only way to insure that one would be handy when I needed it...well=2C maybe THAT'S a bit of a stretch=2C but you get the idea. Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster=2C taildragger Jabiru 2200=2C #2062=2C 767.2 hrs Countdown to 1000 hrs~233 to go Sensenich 62"x46" Wood prop Electroair direct-fire ignition system Rotec TBI-40 injection Status: flying do not archive On Sep 14=2C 2009=2C at 1:18 PM=2C akflyer wrote: http://avidfoxflyers.com/index.php?topic=377.0 have the manual loaded to my site... no snake oil was injected into the manual. -------- DO NOT ARCHIVE Leonard Perry aka SNAKE Soldotna AK Avid &quot=3BC&quot=3B / Mk IV 582 IVO IFA Full Lotus 1450 #1 snake oil salesman since 1-22-2009 hander outer of humorless darwin awards Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=262967#262967 ________________________________ Message 10 ____________________________________ Time: 03:19:38 PM PST US Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Kitfox IV cockpit From: sourdostan@aol.com Thanks=2C?Av8r3400=2C for the information. However=2C could you and others on the list please tell us? your name when you post? Would even be nice to know where you're located. I think this would make the list much more interesting for many of us.? Thanks=2C? Stan Specht Denver=2C Colorado Kitfox Model IV Speedster? 912ul (1570+ hours) -----Original Message----- From: Av8r3400 <theav8rweb@yahoo.com> Sent: Mon=2C Sep 14=2C 2009 2:53 pm Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Kitfox IV cockpit I'm 5'-9" and about 230#=2C my CFI who is doing my transition training with me is 6' and 190#. We are not uncomfortable in the plane with the bubble doors. It's cozy=2C but not uncomfortable. Of course it's not a Cirrus or anything=2C but it is functional with two "real" adults in it. Much better than a C150=2C IMO. -------- Thanks=2C Av8r3400 Kitfox Model IV-1200 912UL IVO-IFA Grove Gear Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=263010#263010 ________________________________ Message 11 ____________________________________ Time: 03:49:10 PM PST US From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Re: Kitfox IV cockpit Amen! ( do not archive ) Lynn Matteson Kitfox IV Speedster=2C taildragger Jabiru 2200=2C #2062=2C 767.2 hrs Countdown to 1000 hrs~233 to go Sensenich 62"x46" Wood prop Electroair direct-fire ignition system Rotec TBI-40 injection Status: flying do not archive On Sep 14=2C 2009=2C at 6:10 PM=2C sourdostan@aol.com wrote: Thanks=2C Av8r3400=2C for the information. However=2C could you and others on the list please tell us your name when you post? Would even be nice to know where you're located. I think this would make the list much more interesting for many of us. Thanks=2C Stan Specht Denver=2C Colorado Kitfox Model IV Speedster 912ul (1570+ hours) -----Original Message----- From: Av8r3400 <theav8rweb@yahoo.com> Sent: Mon=2C Sep 14=2C 2009 2:53 pm Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Kitfox IV cockpit <theav8rweb@yahoo.com> I'm 5'-9" and about 230#=2C my CFI who is doing my transition training with me is 6' and 190#. We are not uncomfortable in the plane with the bubble doors. It's cozy=2C but not uncomfortable. Of course it's not a Cirrus or anything=2C but it is functional with two "real" adults in it. Much better than a C150=2C IMO. -------- Thanks=2C Av8r3400 Kitfox Model IV-1200 912UL IVO- IFA Grove Gear Read this topic online here: http:// forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=263010#263010 ======== ________________________________ Message 12 ____________________________________ Time: 06:05:57 PM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Using small notebook to drive small external monitor From: "wingnut" <wingnut@spamarrest.com> Portable devices don't usually use any kind of standard interface to talk t o its own internal display so you can't just tap into it and route it to an external display. The maker of the device must build in extra circuitry to produce some kind of standard external signal output. It would be an extra cost for a feature that most people wouldn't use so they don't usually bother. I took a look at the specifications for the Lowrance 500 and it doesn't mention anything like that so I think you're out of luck. -------- Luis Rodriguez Model IV 1200 Rotax 912UL Flying Weekly Laurens=2C SC (34A) Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=263061#263061 ________________________________ Message 13 ____________________________________ Time: 08:30:07 PM PST US Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: plastic source=2C toe in=2C Mod 3 seat From: "akflyerbob" <r.wolfejr@worldnet.att.net> Pat=2C I also bought some of that material and have looked thru my receipts from hell and cant find the company. However I have a lot left and could ship you some. Let me know how much you need. Seems like I bought 16' or 18' X 14". I split of 3" strips for gap seals. By the way=2C got the tires. Bob -------- Bob Wolfe..Soldotna=2C Alaska KF Mod I and III Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=263087#263087 ________________________________ Message 14 ____________________________________ Time: 08:54:49 PM PST US From: <jdmcbean@kitfoxaircraft.com> Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Kitfox Factory Fly-in Kitfox Factory Fly-in =93 SUCCESS Celebrating 25 years of Kitfox !! Thank you to all that helped make the Kitfox Fly-in 2009 a great success !! Over 35 aircraft and almost 100 people descended on S66 We have the best kit aircraft in our class and it follows with the class of the individuals that choose to make the Kitfox their aircraft of choice. With almost 5000 kits sold worldwide=2C it is very exciting when one gets the opportunity to view one of the earliest Kitfox=99s=2C N85DD=2C to the latest kit=2C the S7 Super Sport and the latest developmen t the Kitfox S-LSA joined by Dan Denney and his =9CSpecial Effects=9D at the same time in one place. Followed by the individuals that offer their time and expertise to aid a fellow Kitfoxer get back in the air quickly when misfortune strikes. We had Kitfox=99s fly-in from Southern California=2C Washington=2C Utah=2C Colorado=2C Arizona and as far as Austin Texas. All are home safe. Local area flights to the Owyhees were abundant and flights into Smiley Creek and Sulpher Creek are trips not to be missed. The smoked bbq food was great=2C the live music a pleasure and most important the Kitfox family had a great time Great Fun!! Great Food !! Great Flying !! Debra & I thank you for taking the time to join us in celebrating 25 years of Kitfox !! ________________________________ Message 15 ____________________________________ Time: 11:46:20 PM PST US From: Michel Verheughe <michel@online.no> Subject: Kitfox-List: RE: Using small notebook to drive small external monitor From: John Reinking [reinkings@comcast.net] Have any of you taken a handheld GPS and used it to drive a small external monitor In a perfect world=2C it could=2C John. But not in this one. I collaborate to the PocketFMS software which gives a moving map and flight planner on small devices like PocketPC and carNav with GPS. It's hell! Each device has its own way to do things=2C own operative sytem=2C Windows Mobile=2C Wi ndows CE=2C etc. Everyone is trying to get all the others to adopt their standard=2C th ey want to be the new rulers of the world. Even here=2C in Norway=2C they have started with a pocket TV. It works on a system that is only used by three providers =2C here in Norway. You can't use it anywhere else in the world. Needless to say=3B I am not buying that stuff. Years ago=2C I asked a good friend who is also the director for JVC Norway why the hi-fi industry can't get around to standard types of cables. He answered: Well=2C we make money selling hi-fi equimpment but we also like to make money selling cables. Cheers=2C Miche Verheughe Norway Kitfox 3 - Jabiru 2200 Do not archive <pre><b><font size=2 color="#000000" face="courier new=2Ccourier"> </b></font></pre>===================s p=3B &=============== ==== = href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kitfox-List">http://www.matronhr ef="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/c _________________________________________________________________ Ready for Fall shows? 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    Time: 06:11:27 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Hi everyone, I'm back with a -4 with NSI questions..
    From: "Hfirm" <zarpheous21@gmail.com>
    Fox5flyer wrote: > Howard, I scanned the schematic for you and attached. Let me know if you > can read it OK. If not, I can snail mail you a copy of it. > Deke > > --- I'd really appreciate it if you could mail me a copy...I can't read the text on the scanned image. Mailing address is 21605 Ahlstrom St. Rogers MN 55374 Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=263228#263228


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    Time: 06:15:42 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Hi everyone, I'm back with a -4 with NSI questions..
    From: "Hfirm" <zarpheous21@gmail.com>
    Hey Deke, I have some relatives in your neck of the woods...In Rose City...Next time I'm there, I'll try to hook up for a visit. Also, in Southeast MN my friend with the -4 has a 900' grass strip at his house...If you ever want to make the trip... Howard Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=263229#263229


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    Time: 06:57:25 PM PST US
    Subject: Re: Gap Seal Tape
    From: Patrick Reilly <patreilly43@gmail.com>
    Bob, Thanks for the Tognar referral again. Did the tires arrive yet? Do not archive Pat Reilly Mod 3 582 Rebuild Rockford, IL On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 12:11 PM, akflyerbob <r.wolfejr@worldnet.att.net>wrote: > r.wolfejr@worldnet.att.net> > > OK I found this posted 02-sept-07 by oscardog > Tognar.com > click on Travel bags & Packs > Click on Skuff Saver Tape > #TYC 7210 > 14" wide sold by ft > I called them, its still in stock > > Bob > > -------- > Bob Wolfe..Soldotna, Alaska > KF Mod I and III > > > Read this topic online here: > > http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=263158#263158 > >


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    Time: 09:57:05 PM PST US
    Subject: Decals
    From: "yodaone" <yodaone@comcast.net>
    How am I able to get the dimensions of the black decals on this airplane? Thanks -------- 1991 Kitfox IV 1050LB Rotax 912UL Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=263262#263262 Attachments: http://forums.matronics.com//files/kaphotogallery_64_195.jpg


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    Time: 11:24:36 PM PST US
    Subject: how to fly a kitfox
    From: "eric hendriks" <ehtbox@planet.nl>
    Hello Does anyone know if the book'"how to fly a kitfox'" is still availabel? I have mailed skystar but the say they don't have it anymore. Thank You eric Read this topic online here: http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=263273#263273




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