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1. 07:16 AM - Re: Barefoot on the Brakes (mikeperkins)
2. 07:22 AM - Re: Flying with the doors off (Catz631@aol.com)
3. 07:59 AM - Re: Re: Barefoot on the Brakes (larry huntley)
4. 08:32 AM - Re: Flying with the doors off (Lynn Matteson)
5. 09:10 AM - Re: Flying with the doors off (Pete Christensen)
6. 10:06 AM - Re: Flying with the doors off (Jose M. Toro)
7. 11:48 AM - Re: Another Kitfox hits 1000 hours (Lynn Matteson)
8. 12:34 PM - Re: Barefoot on the Brakes (mikeperkins)
9. 04:59 PM - Re: Flying with the doors off (bjones@dmv.com)
10. 05:05 PM - Re: Flying with the doors off (Noel Loveys)
11. 05:52 PM - Re: Removing ethanol from gasoline (bjones@dmv.com)
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| Subject: | Re: Barefoot on the Brakes |
My magic trick is to keep my toes on the rudder bars, not the heels of my foot.
At first it takes a conscience effort, and your feet are at a 45-degree angle.
But that's what it takes to stay off the brakes.
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| Subject: | Re: Flying with the doors off |
Thanks for your replies BJ and Lynn. My TR3's have tonneau covers so I know
what you are referring to Lynn. Bj my model 4 is uncovered in the same area
as yours. Good to know because there are no Kitfoxes in my area to compare
to. I think I will try it with no doors. I tried that one time in a Cessna
120 and at max power barely made it around the pattern to land as there was
so much drag. I didn't do that again! I don't think I made it above 500 ft!
Dick Maddux
Fox 4
Milton,Fl
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| Subject: | Re: Barefoot on the Brakes |
That is how I do it on take-off. On landing I keep my toes on the brakes,but
don't use them unless I have to. Guess I haven't had to in 550 hrs,so ----
Larry
----- Original Message -----
From: "mikeperkins" <michael.perkins@rauland.com>
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 10:16 AM
Subject: Kitfox-List: Re: Barefoot on the Brakes
> <michael.perkins@rauland.com>
>
> My magic trick is to keep my toes on the rudder bars, not the heels of my
> foot. At first it takes a conscience effort, and your feet are at a
> 45-degree angle. But that's what it takes to stay off the brakes.
>
>
> Read this topic online here:
>
> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=305059#305059
>
>
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| Subject: | Re: Flying with the doors off |
Dick-
I forgot to mention that my cover is made of a slightly stretchy
leather-look vinyl stuff, with the fabric backing.
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
Jabiru 2200, #2062, 1007.1 hrs (since 3-27-2006)
Sensenich 62"x46" Wood (summer)
Electroair direct-fire ignition system
Rotec TBI-40 injection
Status: flying...1000 hrs. plus...
On Jul 16, 2010, at 10:20 AM, Catz631@aol.com wrote:
> Thanks for your replies BJ and Lynn. My TR3's have tonneau covers
> so I know what you are referring to Lynn. Bj my model 4 is
> uncovered in the same area as yours. Good to know because there are
> no Kitfoxes in my area to compare to. I think I will try it with no
> doors. I tried that one time in a Cessna 120 and at max power
> barely made it around the pattern to land as there was so much
> drag. I didn't do that again! I don't think I made it above 500 ft!
> Dick Maddux
> Fox 4
> Milton,Fl
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| Subject: | Re: Flying with the doors off |
I've flown with the doors open a few times. (Bubble) Never considered
taking them off.
Pete
----- Original Message -----
From: Catz631@aol.com
To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 9:20 AM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Flying with the doors off
Thanks for your replies BJ and Lynn. My TR3's have tonneau covers so I
know what you are referring to Lynn. Bj my model 4 is uncovered in the
same area as yours. Good to know because there are no Kitfoxes in my
area to compare to. I think I will try it with no doors. I tried that
one time in a Cessna 120 and at max power barely made it around the
pattern to land as there was so much drag. I didn't do that again! I
don't think I made it above 500 ft!
Dick Maddux
Fox 4
Milton,Fl
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| Subject: | Re: Flying with the doors off |
I used to have a Kitfox II, and am still allowed to-fly it occassionally.
- Due =0Ato the temperatures here in the Caribbean (Puerto Rico), I seldo
m close the =0Adoors to fly.- Instead of removing the doors, they are kep
t open with gas =0Astruts.- I ordered a kit, and I think it is still avai
lble.=0A=0AGo ahead and give it a try.- You will like it!=0A=0AJose=0A=0A
=0A=0A=0A________________________________=0AFrom: "Catz631@aol.com" <Catz63
1@aol.com>=0ATo: kitfox-list@matronics.com=0ASent: Fri, July 16, 2010 10:20
:21 AM=0ASubject: Re: Kitfox-List: Flying with the doors off=0A=0A=0AThanks
for your replies BJ and Lynn. My TR3's have tonneau covers so I know what
=0Ayou are referring to Lynn. Bj my model 4 is uncovered in the same area a
s yours. =0AGood to know because there are no Kitfoxes in my area to compar
e to. I think I =0Awill try it with no doors. I tried that one time in a Ce
ssna 120 and at max =0Apower barely made it around the pattern to land as t
here was so much drag. I =0Adidn't do that again! I don't think I made it a
bove 500 ft!=0A--------------------
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- Dick Maddux=0A-------------------
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---Fox 4=0A-------------------
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==================== =0A=0A=0A=0A
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| Subject: | Re: Another Kitfox hits 1000 hours |
Ok, Pat, I got my schedule worked out....I fly outta here on
Thursday, 7-21-2010, and head for Mitchell, SD, to take part in the
AirVenture Cup Race.....yeee--haaa!
Then on Sunday, the 25th, we all...about 60 planes...head for
Oshkosh. So I'll be in Oshkosh (hopefully) Sunday afternoon, and will
probably stay for 4-5 days.
I guess I'm the only Kitfox in the "race"....I put that in quotes
because I won't be racing anybody but the fuel gauge in my plane,
figuring I can make it easily on the on-board fuel, if I run LOP, and
maybe even if I didn't. But I'm determined to make the
distance...about 443 sm....to Snow Crest (this years' finish line)
running just the way I always run it these days...LOP.
So no Baraboo for me this year....
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
Jabiru 2200, #2062, 1007.1 hrs (since 3-27-2006)
Sensenich 62"x46" Wood (summer)
Electroair direct-fire ignition system
Rotec TBI-40 injection
Status: flying...1000 hrs. plus...
do not archive
On Jul 8, 2010, at 6:04 PM, Patrick Reilly wrote:
> Lynn, OK let me know your Osh schedule. Do not archive.
>
> Pat Reilly
>
> On Thu, Jul 8, 2010 at 1:23 PM, Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
> wrote:
>
> Not cast in stone yet, because I've got a couple of things in the
> making before Osh. I'll let you know it the Baraboo thing works out.
>
>
> Lynn Matteson
> Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
> Jabiru 2200, #2062, 1001.2 hrs (since 3-27-2006)
> Sensenich 62"x46" Wood (summer)
> Electroair direct-fire ignition system
> Rotec TBI-40 injection
> Status: flying...1000 hrs. plus...
> do not archive
>
>
> On Jul 8, 2010, at 1:26 PM, Patrick Reilly wrote:
>
> Lynn, I'll introduce you to Red Hamilton in Oshkosh and you can ask
> him. What's your Oshkosh schedule? There is a Tailwind flyin in
> Baraboo WI at Jim Clement's Sat July 24th. The Tailwinds marshall
> up there on the way to Osh. I drive up there Saturday morning,
> sleep in my van and head to Oshkosh Sun morning. You might enjoy
> the Baraboo event. Clement has built 12 Tailwinds and they usually
> have a seminar.. That is the same number but he finished all 12.
>
> Pat Reilly
> Mod 3 REBUILT
> Rockford, IL
> On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 8:26 PM, Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
> wrote:
>
> That's a pretty high number, Pat....makes one wonder why it went
> through so many hands....
>
>
> Lynn Matteson
> Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
> Jabiru 2200, #2062, 1001.2 hrs (since 3-27-2006)
>
> Sensenich 62"x46" Wood (summer)
> Electroair direct-fire ignition system
> Rotec TBI-40 injection
> Status: flying...1000 hrs. plus...
> do not archive
>
>
> On Jul 7, 2010, at 6:07 PM, Patrick Reilly wrote:
>
> Lynn, Red Hamilton from CA, Tailwind owner, and Oshkosh race winner
> last year when asked if he built his plane replys, "I'm the 12th
> owner and 1st finisher of the plane". I don't know maybe that's a
> record.
> do not archive
> Pat Reilly
>
> On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 7:53 PM, Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
> wrote:
>
> I'm the 4th owner, but the one who completed the remaining 80-85 %
> of the work, and (because I wasn't a pilot at the time) watched it
> fly for the first time. I got my (continued) flight training in it
> starting at the 40th hour of its' life. : )
>
> Lynn Matteson
> Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
> Jabiru 2200, #2062, 1000.2 hrs (since 3-27-2006)
> Sensenich 62"x46" Wood (summer)
> Electroair direct-fire ignition system
> Rotec TBI-40 injection
> Status: flying...1000 hrs. plus...
> do not archive
>
>
> On Jul 6, 2010, at 8:07 PM, Cudnohufsky's wrote:
>
> <7suds@chartermi.net>
>
> Congratulations Lynn!! Have you owned it since new?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lynn
> Matteson
> Sent: Monday, July 05, 2010 9:28 PM
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Another Kitfox hits 1000 hours
>
>
> For those of you who care about such things, Kitfox N369LM just
> passed 1000 hours of flight.
>
>
> Lynn Matteson
> Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
> Jabiru 2200, #2062, 1000.2 hrs (since 3-27-2006)
> Sensenich 62"x46" Wood (summer)
> Electroair direct-fire ignition system
> Rotec TBI-40 injection
> Status: flying...1000 hrs. plus...
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> Mod 3 582 Rebuild
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| Subject: | Re: Barefoot on the Brakes |
I land with my toes on the rudder bars and then put them on the pedals quickly
when I need to brake. It takes a conscious effort to move them up, such that I
wind up not riding the brakes or worse yet, braking at touchdown.
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| Subject: | Re: Flying with the doors off |
I have flown my model IV out of Page Arizona at 4,200 feet alot in hot
weather, density altutude probably well over 5,500 feet. With two adults
(maybe 400 lbs) plus 10 gallons fuel, using a 912 80 hp, and with at least
one door off the Ground run and climb were still very acceptable.
In cold weather I frequently open a door inflight to take pictures. It
stays up without assistance, no strut. Plane seems to handle OK with door
up.
Got to love my Kitfox
BJ
N154K
> I've flown with the doors open a few times. (Bubble) Never considered
> taking them off.
>
> Pete
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Catz631@aol.com
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Sent: Friday, July 16, 2010 9:20 AM
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Flying with the doors off
>
>
> Thanks for your replies BJ and Lynn. My TR3's have tonneau covers so I
> know what you are referring to Lynn. Bj my model 4 is uncovered in the
> same area as yours. Good to know because there are no Kitfoxes in my
> area to compare to. I think I will try it with no doors. I tried that
> one time in a Cessna 120 and at max power barely made it around the
> pattern to land as there was so much drag. I didn't do that again! I
> don't think I made it above 500 ft!
> Dick Maddux
> Fox 4
> Milton,Fl
>
>
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| Subject: | Flying with the doors off |
I fly doors on because I really don't like to get wet on landings...
Floats... But I do open the doors for picture taking. Just make sure all
turns are well coordinated and slips are a definite no-no.
Noel
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of bjones@dmv.com
Sent: July 15, 2010 2:36 PM
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Flying with the doors off
My model IV is open from the seats to the tail except for a small baggage
"sack behind the seats.
In 400 plus hours (probably more than half with either both doors or just
the pilot's door off), the only problem I have noticed is some buffet of
the small "triagular" windows on the sides behind the doors. The original
window material had become somewhat brittle with age and developed cracks.
I replaced both with new from Kitfox. They seem to be doing well. I tried
a custom made window that apparently had the wrong clear material and it
failed quickly.
I normally fly relatively low and slow. I suspect if I powered up I would
see maybe 10 knot slower cruise, not sure. I have not been surprised by
any handling problems with the doors off.
Mic on headset breaks squelch a lot with doors off, even if I reposition
the boom up and out of the way. My communications probably have a fair
amount of background wind noise on the other end, although no one has
mentioned it.
I carry charts folded to show the area that I'm flying in but have to keep
them held down on the passengers seat with a camera gear and PLB bag. I
suspect trying to open or unfold them would be difficult (an
understatement.)
Passengers seem to feel safer with the passenger side door in place.
Photography is great without door "glass" and framework in the way.
Anyone with other thoughts on the matter, please chime in. I'm Curious.
Bj
N154K
> about 90-95 degrees here now (sucks !) and I too would like to fly without
> my
> doors however the area right below my turtle deck is uncovered(no interior
> fabric) I thought about having a piece made up with velcro hold downs to
> cover
> that area so air would not come in the doors go back in there causing drag
> and pressurising the aft fuselage area. Is there normally a cover there ?
> How about pressure on the turtledeck itself ?
> Dick Maddux
> Fox 4
> Milton,Fl
>
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| Subject: | Re: Removing ethanol from gasoline |
Paul,
Most folks only need to find ethanol free gas in their area.
I take my Kitfox all over the country and really appreciate this web
listing ethanol free gas sites by state.
Good Show. THANKS
BJ
N154KGood
BJ
N154K
do not archive
This is a fab web site on ethanol free gas!
> I've been beating myself up trying to locate ethanol-free auto fuel and
> found there were several providers close enough for me to take a drive to
> buy some. I'm sure most of you have seen this site before, but it is new
> to me. Please add to it for new locations of ethanol-free fuel in case
> others are looking too.
>
> http://pure-gas.org/index.jsp
>
> Paul Morel
> 912 Speedster
> Locust Grove, GA
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