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| Subject: | PLEASE READ - 2011 List Fund Raiser Kickoff - 21 Years Strong!! |
Dear Listers,
This year marks 21 years of the Email Lists and Forums at Matronics! I've been
running these forums for nearly half my life! I've made some great friends over
the years and had countless email and personal conversations with builders
about aircraft building and flying. What a great community of people! The advice,
support, and friendship has be invaluable over the years.
To support the continued operation and upgrade of the List servers, each November
I hold a PBS-like fund raiser. It is solely through the Contributions of List
members that these Matronics Lists are possible. There is NO advertising
to support the Lists. You might have noticed the conspicuous lack of flashing
banners and annoying pop-ups on the Matronics Email List email messages and web
site pages including:
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You don't find advertising on any of these pages because I believe in a List experience
that is completely about the sport we all enjoy - airplanes!
During the month of November, I will be sending out List messages every couple
of days reminding everyone that the Fund Raiser is underway. I ask for your patience
and understanding during the Fund Raiser and throughout these regular
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of the bills associated with running these Lists. Your personal Contribution
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Once again, this year we've got another terrific line up of free gifts to go along
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and they have been either donated or provided at substantially discounted rates.
This year, these generous people include:
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* Andy Gold of the Builder's Bookstore http://www.buildersbooks.com
These are extremely generous guys and I encourage you to visit their respective
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line. I would like publicly to thank Bob, and Andy for their generous support
of the Lists again this year!!
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After the resin, proseal and aluminum layers, just add a layer of
hypothoriated titanium. That'l seal her up! Ed Gray Dallas
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1. 03:21 AM - Re: Pinhole leak in top of tank. (Lynn Matteson)
2. 02:28 PM - Re: Pinhole leak in top of tank. (Dave)
________________________________ Message 1
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Time: 03:21:31 AM PST US
From: Lynn Matteson <lynnmatt@jps.net>
Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Pinhole leak in top of tank.
Six or seven years since I re-Kreemed my fiberglas tanks, and they're
still going strong without leaks or any other problems...and that's
almost 1200 flying hours.
Lynn Matteson
Kitfox IV Speedster, taildragger
Jabiru 2200, #2062
Prince prop 64 x 30, P-tip
Electroair direct-fire ignition system
Rotec TBI-40 injection (sleeved to 36mm)
Status: down for repair....
On Oct 30, 2011, at 4:51 PM, Lowell Fitt wrote:
> Dave,
> I had the same problem with a 1993 tank, however mine appeared as
> small BB sized bubbles in the top tank inboard of the filler neck.
> Since my tanks were factory Kreemed, I resloshed. Kreem and
> fiberglass? That sounds like a little bit of Lawyer speak to me. I
> would think that Kreem would adhere better to a resin than to metal
> and they claim independent tasting shows it is ethanol resistant,
> but that is just my logic talking. Personally, I think I would go
> with Kreem. My new projects tanks are 1992 vintage - factory
> Kreemed, but never seen gas, so take it for what it's worth.
> Lowell
>
> From: Dave G
> Sent: Sunday, October 30, 2011 9:55 AM
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Kitfox-List: Pinhole leak in top of tank.
>
>
> I arrived at the airport yesterday and found a section of the
> finish lifted about 2" wide and 5-6" long near the top inboard
> portion of the right tank. quite a small leak, I assume it's a
> pinhole, quite small at any rate. I will have to remove the wing to
> address it. I looked up all the posts about sloshing with various
> compounds. My tanks were made in 1992 and I'm looking for
> experience with various compounds.
>
> Is sloshing with acetone or MEK and then with thinned Kreem going
> to work? Is it still the factory recommended solution? I ask
> because the Kreem site specifically says it is NOT for fibreglass
> tanks.
>
> Caswell plating has an epoxy resin that is compatible with
> fibreglass, but everyone talking about it on their site says it
> hardens rock hard and I'm thinking flexible is a good idea for
> Kitfox tanks.
>
> http://www.caswellplating.com/aids/epoxygas.htm
>
> Hirsch Auto has fibreglass compatible and flexible sealer. http://
> www.hirschauto.com/prodinfo.asp?number=GTS
>
> Kreem is of course still available and I could simply replace the
> tank. The problem is not related to alcohol, it's simply a small
> leak that I think has just developed over time.
>
> Looking for experiences/ discussion for a solution. Speed is not a
> factor I am laying the aircraft up for a while to address a couple
> of problems.
>
> Dave G.
> KF IV 1050 582
>
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________________________________ Message 2
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Time: 02:28:47 PM PST US
From: "Dave " <occom@ns.sympatico.ca>
Subject: RE: Kitfox-List: Pinhole leak in top of tank.
Thanks for the help guys. I'll be re- sloshing with thinned Kreem, and also
hitting the area with epoxy, and also applying a thin sheet of aluminum and
Proseal over the area. The last one was suggested and I didn't think it
would look very nice, but I'll have to patch over the area anyway so it
might be an idea.
Dave G
KF IV 1050 582
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-kitfox-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
> Lynn Matteson
> Sent: October-31-11 7:19 AM
> To: kitfox-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Kitfox-List: Pinhole leak in top of tank.
>
>
> Six or seven years since I re-Kreemed my fiberglas tanks, and
> they're still going strong without leaks or any other
> problems...and that's almost 1200 flying hours.
>
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